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Speaker 2: In this episode and previously on Ike Palmer is out
Speaker 2: at Disney and good riddance, good riddance to bad rubbish.
Speaker 2: And this is a shocking news and we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about why it matters and what it means for Marvel Entertainment.
Speaker 2: In the airlock, we're talking about season three, episode five
Speaker 2: of The Mandalorian, which was just a ton of fun.
Speaker 2: It was really, really fun, and we're gonna be moaning
Speaker 2: about those Mandalorians as always. And in nerd out from Mike,
Speaker 2: he's going to talk about what scene may close out
Speaker 2: the Mandalorian series.
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Speaker 1: Coming up next previously on First Up, Shake Up at
Speaker 1: Disney at Marvel Entertainment, Newsflash March twenty nights New York Times.
Speaker 1: Ike Pearl Mutter out at Marvel. Here's the quote. Pearl
Speaker 1: Mutter was told by phone on Wednesday that Marvel Entertainment,
Speaker 1: of small division centered on consumer products and run separately
Speaker 1: from Marvel Studios, was done and would be folded into
Speaker 1: larger Disney business units, according to two Disney executives briefed
Speaker 1: on the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity
Speaker 1: to discuss his sensitive personal matter. Ike, for those of
Speaker 1: you not aware, is one of the execs who you
Speaker 1: know has I think it's let's give him his due,
Speaker 1: has been a driving force behind certainly the early period
Speaker 1: of the MCU, in the launch of the MCUH, and
Speaker 1: is also a famously spinthrift individual who lobbied loudly and
Speaker 1: vociferously and aggressively for not not I repeat not doing
Speaker 1: diverse Marvel movies such as Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
Speaker 1: He's really really mad that they made a Black Panther movie.
Speaker 1: Arymed voted for Trump twice ed said he would do
Speaker 1: so again in twenty twenty four. That's I Pearl Butter,
Speaker 1: and he's out your thoughts.
Speaker 2: He's erse night. Well, so yeah, I agree, you met
Speaker 2: you have if you listened to the podcast we've had
Speaker 2: us talk about. He is a very notorious figure in Marvel.
Speaker 2: He was a board of directors at Marvel Comics in
Speaker 2: late nineteen ninety three, went on to take over the
Speaker 2: company with AVR. Rod from Toy Biz, and he was
Speaker 2: the one who, eventually, after establishing Marvel Studios, would sell
Speaker 2: Marvel to Disney for four billion. Now my biggest thing here,
Speaker 2: let's go back to that New York Times quote, because
Speaker 2: this is huge, guys, and I know I can't help it.
Speaker 2: I love this stuff. It makes me worried. Look, they say,
Speaker 2: Marvel Entertainment, a small division centered on consumer products and
Speaker 2: run separately from Marvel Studios, was redundant in the eyes
Speaker 2: of Disney. So Marvel Entertainment is Marvel Comics, and the
Speaker 2: consumer products that they sell are comic books. So I
Speaker 2: would say that this is not the last that we've
Speaker 2: heard of this news. I am very happy that Ike
Speaker 2: is leaving, and hopefully with him a lot of those
Speaker 2: outdated views not only on race and gender and all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff that you mentioned, but also on
Speaker 2: the way workers are treated. He was known like you said,
Speaker 2: for not spending money for cutting corners.
Speaker 1: And it's also just like uh, you know, Kevin Feige
Speaker 1: uh mm hmm, and others, not to mention returning CEO
Speaker 1: Bob Iiger have had to spend in the past so
Speaker 1: much energy like keeping I could pay that. Hopefully things
Speaker 1: will get easier on their side now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fingers crossed. I am very interested that this news
Speaker 2: came out the way it did because, like I saw
Speaker 2: a great tweet where somebody said, you know, this is
Speaker 2: like Trump arrest day for comic book fans like we have.
Speaker 2: This is actually one of the biggest one of the
Speaker 2: biggest shocks about this news is that Ike still had
Speaker 2: any kind of responsibility because this chairman role that they
Speaker 2: had given him had kind of it seemed like he'd
Speaker 2: handed his responsibilities over to people like Figi Alan Fine.
Speaker 2: So the fact that he is still needed to be
Speaker 2: laid off was kind of a shock, but a good shock.
Speaker 2: But I do not believe that Disney would have wanted
Speaker 2: this to be the way the news came out, because
Speaker 2: the question that me and many other people are now
Speaker 2: asking is what happens to the comics division. In the
Speaker 2: New York Times, they said Marvel Entertainer was based in
Speaker 2: New York City. Based on all of this reporting, the
Speaker 2: Wikipedia page for Marvel Entertainment now says that the company
Speaker 2: lo longer exists and is defunct. So we know Marvel's
Speaker 2: still going to keep making comics. The question is what
Speaker 2: does that look like and how does this impact the
Speaker 2: people who work their day to day and also what
Speaker 2: does it mean for Marvel to no longer be in
Speaker 2: New York. DC comics takes place in all these made
Speaker 2: up places, you know, Metropolis, Gotham, But let's think about Marvel.
Speaker 2: It's like looking out your window. You're in the X Men,
Speaker 2: You're in Westchester, you're in New York, you're with Spider Man.
Speaker 2: That location has always been Marvel's home.
Speaker 1: Its famously based in New York for its entire life.
Speaker 1: Although you know, like some might say, what's the big deal,
Speaker 1: DC moved their comics offices to la some years ago,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, it is. It's a big shift, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions. We don't know about what.
Speaker 2: This means exactly. That's it's about keeping our ears to
Speaker 2: the ground. If anyone from Marvel wants to let us
Speaker 2: know what's going on. We would love to know. I'm
Speaker 2: very interested, and I'm hoping that everyone at Marvel who
Speaker 2: does great work making those comics is had prior knowledge
Speaker 2: about this. I'm interested to see where it goes next.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm very I'm living a Margaret thatcher ding
Speaker 2: Dong the Witch is dead moment, Like obviously we're all
Speaker 2: celebrating the Pike will no longer be a part of this.
Speaker 2: I just want to know what's going on with the
Speaker 2: comic Well.
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of information is still to emerge, but
Speaker 1: it seems like I'm sorry to theorize, but here it is.
Speaker 2: It's what we do.
Speaker 1: It seems like a something like a more sub something
Speaker 1: more substantive perhaps than a rebrand where they fold Marvel
Speaker 1: Comics and start a new company called Marvel Comics Plus
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, that all the people the right, right,
Speaker 1: that all the people that work for that company have
Speaker 1: been fired but now are instantly hired to work for
Speaker 1: this company that's a completely different entity. Slash it was sating.
Speaker 2: This is if you are somebody who loves comic books.
Speaker 2: Ever since AT and T and Warner and these kind
Speaker 2: of DC mergers that have been impacting DC comics for
Speaker 2: so long, those conversations about what does a corporation know
Speaker 2: about how to make comics? Will they get rid of
Speaker 2: the comic harm will they license it out? That has
Speaker 2: always been part of the conversation with Disney buying Marvel.
Speaker 2: People wondered if this would happen. We don't know what
Speaker 2: it's going to look like, but we can assume from
Speaker 2: the fact that they're calling Marvel Entertainment redundant that it
Speaker 2: will change.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I will say DC moving to LA was like a
Speaker 2: stroke of genius, and the DC offices are beautiful, and
Speaker 2: they hire a bunch of wonderful different people who work there.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that there's a version of Marvel moving
Speaker 2: to LA that would be great. It makes sense with
Speaker 2: the studios, with the builds. But what will that look like,
Speaker 2: especially as we are now in the first week of
Speaker 2: the promise seven thousand layoffs that Disney is doing. So,
Speaker 2: you know what, I will give them a slight bit
Speaker 2: of credit for starting with execs because.
Speaker 1: Does that happen?
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is kind of huge. I
Speaker 2: expect the ramifications to be large and continuing. But as
Speaker 2: Jason pointed out, we don't really know that much.
Speaker 1: Now that much.
Speaker 2: We do know that this was likely in response, at
Speaker 2: least in part to Ike Palmutter trying to do a
Speaker 2: shadow takeover of the Disney board with his friend Nelson Pelts,
Speaker 2: which was in the news a lot. And it's actually
Speaker 2: very interesting to go and read about. So if you're
Speaker 2: wondering for if you're looking for the why it is
Speaker 2: not really because of his bad behavior in the past.
Speaker 2: Is corporate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because to take over the company and then try
Speaker 1: to take over the company because of his in part
Speaker 1: certainly ill feelings about Bob Iger, who shelved him after
Speaker 1: he lost a power struggle with Kevin Feige uh Over.
Speaker 1: We tried to fire right over again, the fact that
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make a black Pig or a
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel movie. Bob Iger two billion dollar movies, robab
Speaker 1: I would just say, right, Bob Iger in his book
Speaker 1: or in some other interview, was asked, how you know
Speaker 1: if Ike's feelings about that perhaps fueled that takeover bid,
Speaker 1: and he said, and Iger was quoted as saying, well,
Speaker 1: you'd have to ask Ike about that, but let's put
Speaker 1: it this way. He was not happy about it, and
Speaker 1: I think that unhappiness exists today.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Up next, returning to the Mandalorian in the airlock,
Speaker 1: we're stepping out of the airlock and onto the mean streets,
Speaker 1: the beautiful once and we'll be again beautiful Streets of
Speaker 1: Navarro for Season three, Episode five of The Mandalorian, a
Speaker 1: Disney Plus titled Chapter twenty one The Pirate John Favreau,
Speaker 1: directed by Peter Ramsey. Super super fun episode.
Speaker 2: Real Star Wars vibes. Have you loved those Star Wars vibes?
Speaker 2: If you want to feel like you're a little kid
Speaker 2: with a R two D two lunch box and you
Speaker 2: play them with your cheap, plastic but beloved Kenna toys,
Speaker 2: this is the episode that's gonna send you back into
Speaker 2: that nostalgia. And so much happens.
Speaker 1: A lot happens. So we start on Navarro High. Magistrate
Speaker 1: Grief Cargo is playing SimCity on his desk with his
Speaker 1: with his people are out of He's in the middle
Speaker 1: of this development meeting and is like, where we gonna
Speaker 1: put the railroad. We gotta put the rail spur over here.
Speaker 1: We're talking about it's gonna be a massive cargo moving
Speaker 1: through the city.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And the meeting is broken up by the arrival of
Speaker 1: pirate King Shard's flagship. Shard hails Cargo, and Shard is like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, grief Cargo. That sounds like you, grief Cargo,
Speaker 1: but a killed master of the Navarro Hunters, the fame
Speaker 1: Navarro Bounty Hunters. But all I see before me is
Speaker 1: a pampered nobleman. And Shard, of course, is still hot
Speaker 1: that Carga and Dn Jarren shot his pirates in the
Speaker 1: street street now, uh, you know they were up to
Speaker 1: no good, as pirates often are, and Carga notes quite
Speaker 1: accurately that they drew first, and Shard is like, well,
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna shoot first. Carga then tries the bluff.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, you a fuck with us, You're gonna
Speaker 1: fuck with the New Republic because we're about We're we're
Speaker 1: part of the New Republic. Now what about that? And
Speaker 1: Shard is like, well, I just looked at Galactic Wikipedia
Speaker 1: and it says you guys are independent. So who's lying?
Speaker 1: Is it Wikipedia or is it or is it you?
Speaker 1: And I know that maf Gideon is not here anymore
Speaker 1: because he is either dead or was on trial, and
Speaker 1: nobody fucking knows where he is, so what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: And Carga's like, well, okay, what about the x Wing
Speaker 1: patrols that come through here every once in a blue moon?
Speaker 1: And Sharna is like, well, I'll take my fucking chances peace,
Speaker 1: and then he fucking hangs up and starts opening fire
Speaker 1: on the city streets packed with civilians. They're just getting
Speaker 1: like murders left and right.
Speaker 2: Also as well, like I feel like I love call Weathers,
Speaker 2: I love Grief Cargo. I feel like, is the New
Speaker 2: Republic really going to stop a pirate? Like not like
Speaker 2: could they stop them? I'm sure they could, but like
Speaker 2: is that threat really so big? I feel like he
Speaker 2: made it, played the wrong card there.
Speaker 1: Well, as we will see, the New Republic is just
Speaker 1: in the They're a new administration and they have a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble getting there in a mask, getting their
Speaker 1: business off the ground. Grief Cargo gestures to his ASTRONMK
Speaker 1: droid and uh he then although we don't see it,
Speaker 1: records help us your early hope message. And then when
Speaker 1: his protocol droid runs up and is like, hey, we
Speaker 1: got to get out of here, we got the we
Speaker 1: got the escape ready Carga bravely, courageously is like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving my people. I need
Speaker 1: to lead my people back to the most significant rise
Speaker 1: in property values in Navarro's history. We're coming back.
Speaker 2: We will rebail, we are making real estate money. We
Speaker 2: cannot leave.
Speaker 1: We will rebuild. And he tells his people, Hey, head
Speaker 1: for the hills, go for the dunes, and we'll regroup.
Speaker 1: Just get out of the city. Then we go to
Speaker 1: an unknown jungle planet where that is a base for
Speaker 1: the New Republic's Adelphi Rangers, and we see our friend
Speaker 1: Captain Tiva. He's taking some r and R at the
Speaker 1: base Cantina, when he's told that there's a message. He
Speaker 1: puts it in the in the player and realizes his
Speaker 1: grief Cargo asking for help with a ongoing pirate siege,
Speaker 1: and Carga says, quote, I'm afraid that our planet will
Speaker 1: fall in Shard will turn this into a pirate base.
Speaker 1: And we hear a voice someone has overheard this and says,
Speaker 1: I really thought Navarro is gonna make it. And it's
Speaker 1: our friend zeb Crew looking a bit looking legitimately fucking incredible,
Speaker 1: unbelievable in live action ILMB. Can we get il M
Speaker 1: on the the the volume on on I didn't have.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any particular notes on the ebcu uh
Speaker 1: Man and the Wasp quantum media. But but like this
Speaker 1: looked great, It looked amazing.
Speaker 2: The Mandalorians just consistently knocks it out of the park
Speaker 2: with their use the way they mix practical and cgs,
Speaker 2: and Zeb looked so good here, Like this is definitely
Speaker 2: a moment where if you know, you know, and if
Speaker 2: you know you scream, Like this is like when you
Speaker 2: see him, you're like, oh my god. And we'll get
Speaker 2: into this more, but I think this hints that probably
Speaker 2: a much bigger inclusion that we'll get this season. But
Speaker 2: this was so cool, looked brilliant, super cool, totally within character.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it was just all good. Tend
Speaker 2: to it been good stuff.
Speaker 1: I could not agree where I'd like started shouting us.
Speaker 1: Teva tells Zeb that he's going to go to command
Speaker 1: and he's going to ask for a remission to take
Speaker 1: on the pirates. But as we've seen this, we've already
Speaker 1: talked about the transition from two decades of empire is
Speaker 1: not easy. It's a mess, like just being being legitimately
Speaker 1: charitable to in your republic. It's this is hard work. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then zeb says, hey, they're swamp. They haven't returned
Speaker 1: a message in weeks. Teva then decides, okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to give it the personal touch. I'm gonna fly to
Speaker 1: Corroussant and I'm gonna get Navarro the help it needs.
Speaker 1: Teva saunters into command to see Colonel Tunnel on Coroissant,
Speaker 1: and it's a good example of how chaotic things are
Speaker 1: right now for the new administration. That Tunnel ostensibly Teva's
Speaker 1: commanding officer. He cannot even get his Droid to followers.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, don't Droid, don't put that tray of
Speaker 1: records there on my desk because I and then Droids
Speaker 1: is like fuck you, and it just drops the tree.
Speaker 2: They're like shit, can I just also just talk about it?
Speaker 2: I was just so happy to see Tim Meadows. This
Speaker 2: is just like wonderful one casting. He's in a really
Speaker 2: great episode of poker Face, which I'd love to see him,
Speaker 2: and this is so good because he has the perfect
Speaker 2: exasperated bureaucrat voice, like and you just realized in this
Speaker 2: one scene in one performance, like the New Republic is
Speaker 2: getting nothing done. They are trying their best, but they are.
Speaker 1: Struggle hard, and they have the best of intentions.
Speaker 2: But it's really they're they're doing better than some other
Speaker 2: radical organizations we've seen before, Yes we have, but I
Speaker 2: mean they're not trying to replicate the Imperials. They're trying
Speaker 2: to do their best, but it is they are stuck
Speaker 2: in a bureaucratic roup.
Speaker 1: I mean, like this, there are larger questions here to
Speaker 1: be asked, like whether whether a galaxy spanning government is
Speaker 1: even a good idea, Like, yes, that's a great question
Speaker 1: to ask. But they're trying, and they have good intentions,
Speaker 1: and they're not very effective right now, but they're trying.
Speaker 1: Elliot Kine otherwise known as G sixty eight, the former
Speaker 1: Imperial currently working on some unknown neo imperial scheme from
Speaker 1: inside the New Republic leadership.
Speaker 2: Always acting, she's always acting with shady as fuck.
Speaker 1: She like, I gotta say, gee, don't make evil scheme
Speaker 1: faces all the time because somebody's gonna notice at some point.
Speaker 2: Kay O'Brien is so good as like the villain, Like
Speaker 2: every time you see how you know, just like everyone
Speaker 2: just look around. She's scheming. She's doing a scheme face,
Speaker 2: she's looking evil like I believe it, like she's doing it,
Speaker 2: and nobody seems to notice. I love it. It's great.
Speaker 1: So Tevah barges in and tuddles like, who the fuck
Speaker 1: are you? You know? His Rodian you know, assistant is like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this guy just barged in, and Teva gets
Speaker 1: right to the point. He's like, there's a pirate siege
Speaker 1: on Navarro in the Outer Rim, and I'm mad straate,
Speaker 1: I know sent An sos and we should do something.
Speaker 1: Tunnel plays the message and at that point G. Sixty
Speaker 1: eight comes in with this helpful offer. Hey, I'm going
Speaker 1: to the commissary if you want like some of those
Speaker 1: Imperial biscuits. I know you love them.
Speaker 2: One of the good things about me, am By, you know,
Speaker 2: not good things. They were one of them.
Speaker 1: The trains. They made, the trains run on time, and
Speaker 1: the biscuits are delicious. Yeah, And then Tuttle is like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. G sixty eight, Uh, in your that's right.
Speaker 1: In your capacity is an Imperial soldier aut Aer mof
Speaker 1: Giddion noted war Crudle. You spent some time in the
Speaker 1: Outer rim right, what about about you? Yeah, what did
Speaker 1: you know about Navarro? And she's like, yeah, I did
Speaker 1: spend some time there. And then at that point, Tevin
Speaker 1: notices G. Sixty eight's very unique kind of red striped
Speaker 1: badge which identifies her as a former imperial and part
Speaker 1: of the amnesty program, and she is like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: unfortunately Navarro never signed the new public Charter, so they're
Speaker 1: not part of this whole thing, and Tuttle notes that, hey,
Speaker 1: you see how fucked up things are right now? We
Speaker 1: have member worlds that can't get the help they need.
Speaker 1: How's it gonna look if I go and help some
Speaker 1: independent planet? And then Teva is like, hey, we got
Speaker 1: to connect the dots here. There's something bigger. Why is
Speaker 1: Navarro always coming up? We had reports of stormtroopers in
Speaker 1: the streets and borrow maf Gideon was known to be
Speaker 1: skulkinger on the planet doing who knows what. Meanwhile, ask
Speaker 1: this lady right next to you, because she was serving
Speaker 1: with him. Tie fighters are flying openly over Navara. What's
Speaker 1: with all the action? And Navarro on tunnel says, okay,
Speaker 1: you could get to hyperspace with a leap like that, Like,
Speaker 1: come on and then Teva's like, how do we know that?
Speaker 1: He basically is like maf Gideon could be behind this, right, like,
Speaker 1: we don't know where he is. I heard he never
Speaker 1: made it to try, like what's going on that? And
Speaker 1: then you know, Tuttle again says I. Listen, I'm just
Speaker 1: a pencil pusher. I'm just like a quarkinizer. Basically, all
Speaker 1: I can do is get you things. So what do
Speaker 1: you need? What can I do for you? And I
Speaker 1: got to say before we go further, I think that
Speaker 1: the amnesty program. I think it's a good idea, and
Speaker 1: I think it's a well meeting program, And I don't
Speaker 1: want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Maybe
Speaker 1: there are a lot of positive success stories and good
Speaker 1: things to come out of it. Like like I would
Speaker 1: assume that the other people that doctor Pershing and G.
Speaker 1: Sixty eight were sitting with back at Amnesty House, like
Speaker 1: are not working on neo imperial conspiracy conspiracies. Right that said,
Speaker 1: I don't think that we should allow former imperials to
Speaker 1: have this kind of access to New Republic like decision
Speaker 1: making levers. Why why are we just like letting former
Speaker 1: imperials like work in high command I.
Speaker 2: Also feel like, specifically in this situation, if somebody used
Speaker 2: to work for mof Gideon and this planet is connected
Speaker 2: to mof Gideon, that's like, this is a conflict of interest,
Speaker 2: My dad, great, sorry, you can't be involved in this one.
Speaker 2: I think what this scene does really well, as well
Speaker 2: as being funny, because Tim Meadows is like really fucking funny,
Speaker 2: is it highlights how it's really easy for G. Sixty
Speaker 2: eight to take advantage of this system because nobody knows
Speaker 2: what's going on. Tyl didn't know anything about the hour Rim,
Speaker 2: so he just asks a war criminal who worked for
Speaker 2: like a famous war criminal with a magical sword. He's like,
Speaker 2: what do you know about it? Yeah, And this is
Speaker 2: exactly how she's managed to rise up the ranks, and
Speaker 2: it's very interesting to see them kind of explore that.
Speaker 1: G sixty eight suggests that, hey, you know, uh, maybe
Speaker 1: Navarro would sign the charter. Uh if we let them
Speaker 1: get punched in the mouth a little bit by pirates that.
Speaker 2: Flag, yeah flag very fashion.
Speaker 1: Maybe at a little bit of a mass murder happened,
Speaker 1: they'd understand that they'd want to be under the protective
Speaker 1: umbrella of the New Republic. Wouldn't that teach him a lesson?
Speaker 1: And Teva says sounds like imperial thinking it absolutely is.
Speaker 1: But then Tunnel is like, oh, oh, you're out a line.
Speaker 1: How dare you say that? Yeah, you're out a lion there?
Speaker 1: How dare you besmirch the good name of this former
Speaker 1: war criminal who worked for an even bigger work.
Speaker 2: Criminal who's saying some very war criminal sounding things like yeah.
Speaker 1: So then G is like takes the high road wonderfully.
Speaker 1: I love this moment. It's so funny because g says, hey, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I get this all the time. Listen as
Speaker 1: a former Imperial soldier who worked under Moff Gideon's evil
Speaker 1: infant experimentation regime, working to acquire scientific knowledge of horrific
Speaker 1: and now illegal cloning technology. I get those kind of
Speaker 1: comments all the time. But I want you to know
Speaker 1: I'm a changed person. I am a different person now.
Speaker 1: And Teva's like, I mean that's easy to say when
Speaker 1: you've been fucking captured, you know, like yeah, and she
Speaker 1: corrects him, no, no, no, I was liberated. And then Tunnel
Speaker 1: is like, okay, like, you see all the files and
Speaker 1: shit on my desk, I will look into it, get
Speaker 1: the FuG out of here, and Teva and his cool
Speaker 1: bomber jacket go to leave, but they leave with a warning.
Speaker 1: They say, something big is happening, the resurrection of Palpatine,
Speaker 1: something the resurrection I've ever speak good. Something big is
Speaker 1: happening out there, and you better act before it's too
Speaker 1: late to stop it.
Speaker 2: Spoiler They won't stop it, will stop it when it
Speaker 2: goes badly for everyone.
Speaker 1: We go to the outskirts of Navarro Grief and the
Speaker 1: citizens are now refugees huddling in the dunes, and he
Speaker 1: promises them listen, help is on the way. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: how whom? And it looks really bad elsewhere on the
Speaker 1: mysterious planet that is home to the Mandalorian covert, Teva,
Speaker 1: following a homing signal, lands at the edge of Crocodile
Speaker 1: Lake just outside the forge. Every Mandalorian gun is on him. Pause.
Speaker 1: Viz Last comes strolling out with that big fucking chain
Speaker 1: gun of his, was like, get out of here. We
Speaker 1: don't like New Republic cops, and we get it, honestly,
Speaker 1: we get it. Then then comes out as like wait,
Speaker 1: how did you find us? And Tevis as fortunately someone
Speaker 1: I served with in the Rebellion is among your ranks
Speaker 1: and the R five dfour you. It comes out and
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, it was me, and let's stop here. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've already talked about the kind of twist of fate
Speaker 1: aspect of R five's you know, kind of coincidental relationship
Speaker 1: with R two and how that really did shape the
Speaker 1: future of the galaxy. But I was not aware that
Speaker 1: our five, this R five, actually was in the rebel Alliance.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is actually a really nice nod to some
Speaker 2: thing that I believe was established in the books, which
Speaker 2: was basically that R two communicated to R five that
Speaker 2: the galaxy was doomed and R two was the only hope,
Speaker 2: and then R five was like cool and just like
Speaker 2: loosened the hinge on his plate and like blew it
Speaker 2: up so that he could like sacrifice himself so that
Speaker 2: they would buy R two and R two would be
Speaker 2: able to go and help. This is incredibly sweet. I
Speaker 2: love when they build in these moments for droids. But
Speaker 2: can I just say as well, yeah, and I love
Speaker 2: our two. Doesn't that just sound like something that R
Speaker 2: two would.
Speaker 1: Make it very self, very such realizing.
Speaker 2: He's such a little drama Mama, you know as drama. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that was from The Red One from a certain
Speaker 2: point of view, which is just the funnest little stories
Speaker 2: where they imagine like different and expand on different scenarios.
Speaker 2: It was by Ray Carson, and that's where they established
Speaker 2: that R five kind of did make this sacrifice, and
Speaker 2: I guess his mind was later wiped by jar Wars
Speaker 2: and that's why he kind of didn't know that he
Speaker 2: was a rebel and he ends up with Pelly. So
Speaker 2: I love that they referenced this. Those books are really
Speaker 2: fun and yeah, are two convinced destroyed to blow his
Speaker 2: own head up and he did it for the rebel.
Speaker 1: And then I have other I guess Teva just kept
Speaker 1: our fives like cell phone number and new it just
Speaker 1: somehow how did he do it? I guess they have
Speaker 1: been like on a they're on a group chat, and
Speaker 1: like our five has been telling Teva like that's the
Speaker 1: only way Teva could have rights, Like if our five
Speaker 1: is like, hey, guess what I'm hanging out with that Mandalorian? Uh? Now,
Speaker 1: like I've been roped into a mission to Mandlor.
Speaker 2: If you've had them astromech in your ship, does it
Speaker 2: like you always remember it and you can always just
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I wonder what our five's up to
Speaker 2: and like you because it was like a homing beacon.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we need to know how did they get
Speaker 2: in touch? Is there a rebellion group chat if? So
Speaker 2: seems like it should be well better protected.
Speaker 1: I agree, And as you've seen from the DELFI Ranger base,
Speaker 1: a lot of downtime, so you know, Teva would have
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity to just text with friends.
Speaker 2: I would also say, I'm very happy to see more Teva.
Speaker 2: I love this character. I want to see that. I
Speaker 2: live to see like a Teva spinoff, that kind of
Speaker 2: New Republic, like interesting X Wing kind of slice of
Speaker 2: life stuff. So it's really fun here to.
Speaker 1: See iconic bomber jacket, like iconic what a look?
Speaker 2: His whole look is.
Speaker 1: Just a look. Dinn. I think, speaking for the COVID here,
Speaker 1: is annoyed because the entire COVID is gonna have to
Speaker 1: move now, and that is just such a fucking hassle.
Speaker 2: Well, can I just say something, actually disagree. You should
Speaker 2: say thank you to Teva because you should have fucking
Speaker 2: moved a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I listen, we've been We've been on that quarterly for
Speaker 1: a long time, but now it's like you can't put
Speaker 1: it off anymore.
Speaker 2: If I knew that all we had to do was
Speaker 2: go to the Crocodile Lake and visit them so they
Speaker 2: would move, I would have actually done it, like I
Speaker 2: would have done it because they need to move. This
Speaker 2: is this is bad times.
Speaker 1: Uh So then pause, Vistla is like, who, well, hold on,
Speaker 1: we don't have to move if we emit murder, what
Speaker 1: if we just kill what if we just kill this cop?
Speaker 1: What about that? And Din is like, uh no, you
Speaker 1: fucking psycho, show the fuck out, you fucking Madiac. And
Speaker 1: also I owe this guy once, so we're not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Go like bond with your son or something.
Speaker 1: Uh and then and then taking it from there, Din
Speaker 1: is like, okay, just now get out of here, because
Speaker 1: you see what I'm dealing with. Biss wants to flat
Speaker 1: out murder you, and then Tim is like, I can't
Speaker 1: because here is Grief's grief, Cargo's SOS message. So Dan
Speaker 1: is like, well, let's just fucking you're the new Republic.
Speaker 1: Just fucking go over there, do a bombing round and
Speaker 1: take him out. And he's like, well, Coroissant doesn't care,
Speaker 1: so then didn't I think asks a really good questions
Speaker 1: like well why do you care? Like why you don't know?
Speaker 1: Grief Carter from Adam like why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: And he says, well, I basically I care because I
Speaker 1: think the Empire's up to something. He says, the new
Speaker 1: refolic has to know the empire is growing again and
Speaker 1: and basically someone needs to do something about it. And
Speaker 1: this is I think the only way I can get
Speaker 1: their attention. And he thinks that the pirate you know, see,
Speaker 1: you just part of this. And then Tevia leaves and
Speaker 1: is like, hey, listen, I know you guys are gonna
Speaker 1: leave anyway, but I promise I won't tell anybody about
Speaker 1: you that you're here at fucking Crocodile Lake, you know.
Speaker 1: He still.
Speaker 2: I'm like, don't keep it a secret because these people
Speaker 2: are gonna die. Yes, if they stay here, tell everyone
Speaker 2: if it means they're gonna bloody move.
Speaker 1: So he flies off, and then bo is like, okay,
Speaker 1: so what are you thinking about doing? Of course, Dinn
Speaker 1: is test to go to help, but he can't do
Speaker 1: it alone. So Din then makes his pitch to the
Speaker 1: Mandalorians about why they should go to Navarro and fight
Speaker 1: for Grief Karga, and he's like, listen, I know you
Speaker 1: fought against him when you rescued me in Grogu. But
Speaker 1: Grief is a different guy now he's not. He's he
Speaker 1: on like g sixty eight has legitimately had a change
Speaker 1: of heart, and so let's pay back that kindness. Go
Speaker 1: to Navar. I was aid before, it's too late. And
Speaker 1: then he's like, and by the way, if if ah
Speaker 1: a pitch to your generosity doesn't do it, how about capital?
Speaker 1: About what about some land?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 1: What about some land? He says, Grief cargo offered me
Speaker 1: a tract of land on his independent world. Let's not
Speaker 1: forget that independent world. Perhaps it's time for us to
Speaker 1: live in the light once again, on a planet where
Speaker 1: we are welcome, so our culture may flourish and our
Speaker 1: children will feel what it is to play in the sunlight.
Speaker 2: And then thinking about a baby again, thinking about that
Speaker 2: beautiful baby, that baby would just love to just be.
Speaker 1: Chilling, absolutely pause visilism. Then like, I can't let someone
Speaker 1: have the last word. I need to speak up. And
Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, this is gonna be a hard fight
Speaker 1: fellas fellow Mandalorians is gonna be a really, really hard fight.
Speaker 1: Perhaps some of us will die, as many of us
Speaker 1: did die when we fought against cargo on that very
Speaker 1: same planet, when we fought to save this guy over
Speaker 1: here his life and this baby over here his life.
Speaker 1: But dead man, Laurens, that sounds fucking great. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I love war. I love war, guys.
Speaker 2: This is a great time around me. Because he saw
Speaker 2: he saw someone. He's like, why should we help this man?
Speaker 1: But he's actually arguing like.
Speaker 2: We should do it because we get to kill people,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And he's straight up like, hey, a lot of us
Speaker 1: are gonna die. I love it.
Speaker 2: Let's He's like, I've got a fucking massive gun. He probably.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, I've had my disagreements with this man,
Speaker 1: mean tin charn, but he risked his life to save
Speaker 1: my son, who I don't really care about. I don't
Speaker 1: care about that kid. But he did do it. I
Speaker 1: didn't fill up, by the way, and Bokaton Crees also
Speaker 1: did not give up on my child's life even when
Speaker 1: the rest of us did. This made me laugh so hard,
Speaker 1: he said, Boukaton did not give up on my child's
Speaker 1: life even when the rest of us did what a
Speaker 1: fucking burn himself.
Speaker 2: But he's saying about like himself, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: What about you dead.
Speaker 2: Everyone else was like this happens all the time. I
Speaker 2: lost three kids to that bud last week, like, but
Speaker 2: Bo was like this is fucked up, Like uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so anyway, this is the way let's get
Speaker 1: that real estate. They head off to Navarro, and the plan,
Speaker 1: which Bow lays out as they're in hyperspace, is a
Speaker 1: too prung attacked in and Bow will stay in the
Speaker 1: skies the rest of the Mandalorians with pre at their head.
Speaker 1: Also the armorer will be the ground assault team. And
Speaker 1: then Bow gets her speech. She says, Navarro's an independent planet,
Speaker 1: no longer under imperial remnant or to republic protection. But
Speaker 1: it's that very independence that makes it appealing for you
Speaker 1: to settle. You lived there once hiding the sewers, which
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody who needs to be reminded of that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good Like, I don't that
Speaker 1: is that the pitch that we want. We were just like, hey,
Speaker 1: really remember when you had to like.
Speaker 2: Hide in the sewers, and like you won't accepted. Now
Speaker 2: go and save these people smelling it's like the good
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the good pitch, but I
Speaker 2: get where she's going.
Speaker 1: She's like, I guess like you were.
Speaker 2: Like pasant This is a really funny pitch shagic because
Speaker 2: she's basically saying, like these people didn't accept you and
Speaker 2: made you hide underground, like morelogs with now.
Speaker 1: You can be heroes, right and and homeowners. Let's not
Speaker 1: forget that independently. Yes again, that's a huge get hit
Speaker 1: all the important notes X ray Vision will be back
Speaker 1: and we're back. So they arrive and the pirate's fucking
Speaker 1: running wild. They're having a grand old time. They're roaming.
Speaker 1: The show's like.
Speaker 2: Pirates of the Caribbean. It's a long beach pirate festival
Speaker 2: that actually.
Speaker 1: Pirate Pirate, Christmas, Pirate Valentine's Day rolled into one pirate
Speaker 1: uh st Patrick's say. They're drinking, they're robbing, they're like
Speaker 1: raping waiters. They're loving it. The Mandalorians arrive and it's
Speaker 1: truly an amazing battle.
Speaker 2: Like yeah again is animation. Animation on the ships is
Speaker 2: second to none. Hair Like ILM's absolutely doing it. The
Speaker 2: fighters are so good there's so much good practical costuming,
Speaker 2: practical mosts, practical creature walk. It is absolutely delightful, and
Speaker 2: we get a great armor a moment that made me
Speaker 2: like I was like fist pumping when I saw.
Speaker 1: The shot which they used in the trailer where you
Speaker 1: see the Mandalorians air drop down onto the streets is
Speaker 1: so fucking cool. Some highlights from the battle. The ground
Speaker 1: assault is led by a pause who I think needs
Speaker 1: to learn about cover. They're all just standing out in
Speaker 1: the middle of the street. They get pinned down in
Speaker 1: the town square. To relieve that. We see the armorer
Speaker 1: go to work with her hammer and tongs as weapons.
Speaker 1: Really really takes out a pirate firing position that was
Speaker 1: stationed in Grief Cargo's once luxurious office, hopefully to be
Speaker 1: luxurious again. We get to see baby Yoda up in
Speaker 1: the sky, riding in Dinn's lap. Taking it in the
Speaker 1: baby during.
Speaker 2: This like crazy battle. The baby's just chilling in his
Speaker 2: dad's lap.
Speaker 1: Did strap him in right?
Speaker 2: Not even like a single I don't know, that's just
Speaker 2: the dad or maybe he's staying there with the force,
Speaker 2: but it was very.
Speaker 1: Little baby here, a little baby boring or something for.
Speaker 2: That feels like it's coming.
Speaker 1: Uh the nikto Pirate Vain. Remember him a complete non factor, Yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely useless. Didn't do a damn thing except for talking
Speaker 1: shit in his snub fighter.
Speaker 2: Which is he's the one who got let he was
Speaker 2: the one who survived. So I'm like, if you're going
Speaker 2: to cause the problems to come for the vengeance, then
Speaker 2: do something.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't. He just breezes off. He's like, ah,
Speaker 1: immediately flees immediately is like no, I'm not Hey, looks
Speaker 1: like things are going bad. I'm out of here. But like,
Speaker 1: has I guess the class to give to give notice
Speaker 1: to Pirate King Shark? Like he doesn't just take like, hey,
Speaker 1: Pirate King Shard, I just want you to know I'll
Speaker 1: be giving my two week notice two weeks ago. I'm
Speaker 1: leaving right now, just like yeah bye. Uh. And finally
Speaker 1: dinn and Bow managed to blow up Pirate King Shard
Speaker 1: ship before he can blast the city. This is what
Speaker 1: a fucking murdering maniac, this fucking spinach is. He just
Speaker 1: is like, I guess I'll just like kill everybody, but
Speaker 1: they blow up a ship before that can happen, and uh,
Speaker 1: the citizens get to get some payback. Because the pirates
Speaker 1: are fleeing the destruction of of their forces, flee right
Speaker 1: into the arms.
Speaker 2: Of Weizen get to they get to take over a
Speaker 2: gang that's come into that town.
Speaker 1: Grief Cargo, did we expect anything else? He's good to
Speaker 1: his word. He says, all the land from the western
Speaker 1: Lava Flats to Bullet Canyon now the home of the
Speaker 1: good people of Mandalori.
Speaker 2: Let's get that real estate. I mean, they're so're actually
Speaker 2: gonna build a house or will they just find the
Speaker 2: most dangerous natural spat and just chill outside the Magaloian
Speaker 2: So you never know. I hope live where the giant
Speaker 2: lizard live. Can we live next to him?
Speaker 1: Well? I would expect they're going to live above ground now,
Speaker 1: right because because of what happens next. Pause then comes
Speaker 1: over to Bow is like, hey, the armor uh wants
Speaker 1: to have a word. So he leads her back into
Speaker 1: that sewer where they used to live, and the armor
Speaker 1: is in her old forge. Uh just kind of looking
Speaker 1: around and makes some small talk, and then she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: take off your helmet. What bo is like the creed and.
Speaker 2: Is this like is this a trick? She's fair to
Speaker 2: ask on this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the Creed and Din had to fucking dive
Speaker 1: into the waters of the living waters under the fucking
Speaker 1: mind's battle or like I could just take off my
Speaker 1: helb I now and uh, the Armor says, listen, the
Speaker 1: das the Mandalorian diaspora is all over the place, and
Speaker 1: there's we subscribe to the Creed, but many don't. But
Speaker 1: we have to if we're gonna unite as a people,
Speaker 1: if we're going to take our planet back, we have
Speaker 1: to walk the way together. And that means all Mandalorians.
Speaker 1: I was taught the minthosaur Existentian legend, and yet you
Speaker 1: saw it. It's a sign that the next stage is
Speaker 1: upon us. You have walked both worlds. You are the
Speaker 1: one who can unite us. So the Armor is basically saying,
Speaker 1: you're going to be our ambassador the diaspora out in
Speaker 1: the galaxy and we need to go and retake Mandelor.
Speaker 1: And I think this is actually a smart and good
Speaker 1: idea from the Armor. Yes, listen, all respect to the
Speaker 1: Mandalorian recruiters who have been growing the ranks of the
Speaker 1: Mandalorian off camera, but they need a lot more folks
Speaker 1: if they're going to take back the planet. And that
Speaker 1: means reaching out to you know, the folks we saw
Speaker 1: in the Clone wars who didn't wear their helmets all
Speaker 1: the time. You know. That's the other thing that's kind
Speaker 1: of like unspoken is like this covert is essentially descendants
Speaker 1: of Deathwatch. We had a much more hardcore Mandalorian warlike
Speaker 1: uh take on the Mandalorian culture and lifestyle, and they
Speaker 1: were very apathetically against everything that was going on on
Speaker 1: Mandalor proper uh and particularly the leadership of the Duchess
Speaker 1: Seteen uh. And so this is a really cool gesture
Speaker 1: I think, and and one that the one that Bo
Speaker 1: is really uniquely suited for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge moment and it makes a lot
Speaker 2: of sense. I agree because it look does it?
Speaker 1: Could?
Speaker 2: It feel like slightly jarring? All? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it flopping? Now?
Speaker 2: There's some flopping hair. But I will say the thing
Speaker 2: I think they did that was really smart hair. That
Speaker 2: makes it believable is the mythical the armor basically sat
Speaker 2: with it for a week or a few days or whatever.
Speaker 1: And was like.
Speaker 2: If she saw the mythosaur, that's like, I need to
Speaker 2: fucking sort my shit out, like I need to. This
Speaker 2: is someone who clearly has some kind of role to play.
Speaker 2: Now what does that role look like? And then she thinks, well,
Speaker 2: we really struggle with recruiting new people. We're recruiting a
Speaker 2: lot of children, baby dragons, Like, oh wait, there's actually
Speaker 2: like thousands, tens of thousands of Mandalorians all over the galaxy,
Speaker 2: some of whom used to follow boy, and maybe by
Speaker 2: becoming more inclusive and accessible, we can create like a
Speaker 2: unified mand law. And I think it's really good, very sick, it's.
Speaker 1: Really great, very very smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's the perfect person.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I think that what the armorer, without
Speaker 1: laying it out, is aiming for is like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: you are an orthodox follower of the Creed, then just
Speaker 1: don't take your holmet off. You never take it off,
Speaker 1: but favor the yes. But if we're remorse secular Mandalorian,
Speaker 1: we welcome you as well. And this is great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the armor and bow without her helmet hair, I
Speaker 1: don't know how she keeps her hair looking so good?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't even get me.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know. It's how is the
Speaker 2: hat always looking so good? Everything correct, same length, not
Speaker 2: one single split?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Gunning no roots. Unbelievable. I mean that is that's the
Speaker 2: biggest mystery of the man. Her hair stay that good,
Speaker 2: never any static after being on that mecca, why I
Speaker 2: need to know the secret?
Speaker 1: Uh So the Armor and Bow no helmet go to
Speaker 1: the other vand Alors and the other days are like
Speaker 1: what excuse me to what is happening? And the Armor
Speaker 1: is like, okay, this is what's going on. Bow is
Speaker 1: our ambassador. She is going to bring the rest of
Speaker 1: the exiles to us and together we're gonna retake Mandelori.
Speaker 1: And pause and I get it. Pause to me, he's
Speaker 1: a little annoyed. She's like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: She did a helmet off, like yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Then she's like, no, listen, bocus on what has walked
Speaker 1: both world. She can bring all the tribes together. It's
Speaker 1: time to retake Mandalor. And I think, listen, we've been saying,
Speaker 1: why don't you just call it Mandalor? And I think
Speaker 1: that this is the right way to This is smart,
Speaker 1: This is a good way to do it because you
Speaker 1: can't send any messages on the surface of Mandelor. SU's
Speaker 1: Navarro as a base to bring the desperate together and
Speaker 1: then let's all go to Mandalor.
Speaker 2: In this way, I think the Armor finally did something
Speaker 2: right because we were like, why don't they just go
Speaker 2: to Mandalo, Why don't they just go to Mandalor. But
Speaker 2: I think she's right, get like one hundred two hundred,
Speaker 2: five hundred one thousand Mandalorians together on some kind of
Speaker 2: same page and then try and go back to the
Speaker 2: once poisoned, like wildly overgrown and dangerous to comment that
Speaker 2: you once lived on. Also, I will say, I will
Speaker 2: think that I think we can take it. We were
Speaker 2: right because we did say Bo was going to be
Speaker 2: the one who would potentially ride the mithasore, who would
Speaker 2: reunite the Mandalorians. This is right, So happy. I also
Speaker 2: want to congratulate Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni, who essentially
Speaker 2: wrote themselves out of a corner here by making it
Speaker 2: okay for Mandalorians to wear a helmet or not wear
Speaker 2: a helmet.
Speaker 1: Well, it was previously not okay, Now it's okay.
Speaker 2: Now it's okay. It kind of explains away some of
Speaker 2: the bigger characters, one of whom we're likely going to
Speaker 2: see soon as well. I feel like after this episode,
Speaker 2: so yeah, they're retaking Mandalore. Good for them.
Speaker 1: Later in deep space, I would assume somewhere by the
Speaker 1: you know, outside of Courson, in the inner rims.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some kind of outer rim situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Captain Teva, just by luck. And by the way,
Speaker 1: space is a big place, so very fill out your
Speaker 1: fucking lottery ticket.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it was the force, Maybe the force was
Speaker 2: guided him.
Speaker 1: I don't discount it's you never love it. I honestly
Speaker 1: love it. Captain TeV comes across a transport ship heavily damaged.
Speaker 1: Does it absolutely wreck the pilot? You could see some
Speaker 1: of the crew, their corpses in they're floating around. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he learns that this is the craft that was
Speaker 1: moving off Gideon. He was right ostensibly to trial.
Speaker 2: Right, he knew he never made it do it.
Speaker 1: And he scans the wreckage and there's a little chunk
Speaker 1: of best gar stuck in the side. And it leads
Speaker 1: we believe our friend Tava to wonder if Mandalorians did this.
Speaker 2: Dun da da dun dun dun. It's obviously a frame up.
Speaker 2: I just need to say suspense, like it's a fucking
Speaker 2: frame absolutely frame I also just want to shout out
Speaker 2: like this moment there's this unclearly it's such obviously a
Speaker 2: frame up, but like this moment of this like empty
Speaker 2: floating ship. There's this really brilliant anime called Memories and
Speaker 2: there's a short in it called Magnetic Rose and it's
Speaker 2: like a trapped room horror where a guy finds an
Speaker 2: empty flow in spaceship and they kind of go and
Speaker 2: explore it and it's really beautiful. And this was giving
Speaker 2: me big vibes of that. You should go and watch it.
Speaker 2: It's really good. But yeah, it's a frame up. I'm sorry, Bro,
Speaker 2: Temba should also Tempa should know this, like it's so
Speaker 2: he's like, it's best Gar and the guy's on the
Speaker 2: radio is like, Mandalorians did this, And I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: you know man, Laurians didn't do this. They would Why
Speaker 2: would they leave the best gar? This is a fight.
Speaker 1: They love the best They turned into.
Speaker 2: A tiny child's helmet, like just leave it me, it's.
Speaker 1: Not Their entire culture is based on finding any scrap
Speaker 1: of brain, returning it to the community and what like
Speaker 1: a chunk of the armor. Broker, come on, why how? Why?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, this is the neo Imperials. This is a neo
Speaker 1: imperialist plot, probably masterminded by mof Gidion and whoever he is.
Speaker 1: I agree to kill the Mandalorians.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got crazy. I got crazy. Other option, I
Speaker 2: just realized, I do believe it's a frame up, but
Speaker 2: this is an empty imperial shit. What if a Mandalorian
Speaker 2: had gone there to like scavenge it or look for
Speaker 2: the Dark Saber or something, and it was like Sabine
Speaker 2: doing some archaeologist kind of shit, that would be really cool,
Speaker 2: right like it? I do believe it's a frame up,
Speaker 2: but I feel like after we met zeb, I feel
Speaker 2: like Sabine. I had not expected that this could be
Speaker 2: a space where we could see her, but I'm feeling like, now,
Speaker 2: well that's more than likely.
Speaker 1: I kind of agree. Listen, if BoA's gonna go out
Speaker 1: there exactly and bring the Mandalorians together.
Speaker 2: Why would it be random Mandalorian. Surely you're gonna at
Speaker 2: least get one the most fast other Mandalorian that we
Speaker 2: haven't seen.
Speaker 1: I it makes so much sense to me that at
Speaker 1: least for the finale, the assault on mandalor when they
Speaker 1: fight whoever is behind all of these machinations around a Varo,
Speaker 1: it's we're gonna see her.
Speaker 2: We have to or at least some of her art.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing we haven't seen any of the
Speaker 2: iconic got Oh. I also just realized, thanks to these
Speaker 2: incredible notes by super producer Saw, next week's episode is
Speaker 2: Bryce Dlice Howard. I am so stoked because do you
Speaker 2: remember how like fucking game changing her Boba Fair episode? Like,
Speaker 2: I am ready to see what she does with this
Speaker 2: like frame up kind of mixture of this mystery where
Speaker 2: the New Republic's now going to potentially be seeing the
Speaker 2: Mandalorians as a threat, but we also have the Mandalorians
Speaker 2: doing like outreach for the first time and living publicly.
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be really interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm very, very very excited. What a fun episode, So
Speaker 1: much fun up next nerd Out.
Speaker 2: In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you
Speaker 2: love and why, or tell us about a theory that
Speaker 2: you're excited to share, Mike shares some thoughts about what
Speaker 2: the end of the Mandalorian series could look like.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jason Rosie, long time, first time. In your recap
Speaker 1: of Mandalori in season three episode one, you talked about
Speaker 1: the potential for an epilogue time jump at the conclusion
Speaker 1: of the series to when Grogu could be the leader
Speaker 1: of Mandlor. I can't stop thinking about that possibility, and
Speaker 1: I want to build on that idea thirty ish years after.
Speaker 1: So this is this is Mike's idea, thirty ish years
Speaker 1: after his adventure with Din grog Who's sitting in a
Speaker 1: throne room on Mandelor. A mysterious figure enters who could
Speaker 1: it be a yellow lightsaber wielding race Gywalker. She's looking
Speaker 1: for other four sens of leaders of the galaxy to
Speaker 1: create some squort of new Jedi order. Wow, I do
Speaker 1: love this. I have seen I absolutely love it. We've
Speaker 1: seen how Disney has loved bringing back Star Wars actors
Speaker 1: into the movies and series on my best of course,
Speaker 1: and it seems like it could be a fun way
Speaker 1: to bring Daisy Ridland back to reprise her iconic role
Speaker 1: a handful of years from now after more seasons of
Speaker 1: the Mandalorian love the show. Thanks Mike, Mike. That's really cool.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's so much fun.
Speaker 2: I also think, like, look, we can waste fudge your
Speaker 2: timeline in Star Wars to fudget by may be a
Speaker 2: few centuries, you know what, you know what, maybe because
Speaker 2: he's got this connection to mandlaw and the Force. By
Speaker 2: the time he's like one hundred, he's a little bit more.
Speaker 2: You know, let's be real, Yoda was like eight hundred
Speaker 2: and he was looking old.
Speaker 1: He was we's the mid or that, you know, nine
Speaker 1: and change.
Speaker 2: Nine and change, Like he's living and he was old.
Speaker 2: So what I love about this is it makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense as a fun theory to kind of
Speaker 2: expand upon because we know that they are connecting this
Speaker 2: to the trilogy series now, yes, like to the to
Speaker 2: the later trilogy. It's an idea of somehow connecting Ray
Speaker 2: after delving into this whole Palpatine situation. There's something really
Speaker 2: fun there. And I've always wanted to see a kind
Speaker 2: of young Jedi adventures like Jedi school, Jedi training, and
Speaker 2: it could be cooled to see Grogu represent a Mandalorian
Speaker 2: insight into that.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Grogu's going to be with us forever.
Speaker 1: There's no world in which.
Speaker 2: He will outlive us.
Speaker 1: He will outlive us. He will be here. They're making
Speaker 1: Star Wars movies at shows at sixty years grog and
Speaker 1: so see in Grogu, you know, it's only a matter
Speaker 1: of time until Grogu appears in a Star Wars movie.
Speaker 1: Like that will happen, right, it just feels like it'll happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just make a Stars movie called The Child.
Speaker 2: I mean it's not it's like they're making money quickly
Speaker 2: when that happens.
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