WEBVTT - S1: EP 23 — "She Doesn’t Like When You Bring Other Girls Here" 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.239 Hello, ghouls and girls, Welcome back to another episode of Haunting. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.280 For all you newbies out there, I'm Therésa, your ghost 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.080 host with the most, and this is our producer, Len 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:30.120 [MUMBLES] 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.760 and my familiar Merlin. We're coming to you from the 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:39.160 Great Beyond with listeners submitted stories about mortal paranormal encounters. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.280 And you know what that means. Someone listening right now 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.839 could be our next victim, or guest. Kind of exciting 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.480 when you think about it. Here's a fun fact. I'd 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.640 never seen a ghost until I died. Well, I thought 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.240 I did once when I was twelve, but the shadow 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.240 figure in the corner turned out to be my brother's 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.360 sleep peeing. It happens six more times before he grew 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.960 out of it, so that doesn't count. Len, did you 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.399 ever have a supernatural encounter when you were alive? 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:13.760 [MUMBLES] 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.480 You're saying in school you were possessed by a Satan 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.720 worshiping rock band and turned into a demonic entity who 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.120 ate half your grade. That's the plot of Jennifer's Body. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.040 The movie wasn't based on your life. Let's move on. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.440 Unlike Len's little performance, today's stories are one hundred percent real, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.840 and we have the traumatizing first hand accounts to prove it. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:42.039 Both come to us from America's heart land, the Windy City, 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:50.960 Chi Town [CHICAGO SOUDTRACK] Len, I don't, I don't. No no, no, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.800 that is not your cue to play the Chicago soundtrack 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:59.120 and you've upset Merlin. He hates a brassy overture, Oh Merlin, Merlin, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:00.980 It's okay, It's okay, baby. 0:02:00.980 --> 0:02:02.640 [MUMBLES] 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.960 What? There is no way you were in the original 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.560 cast of Chicago. You got the stage presence of an acorn. Seriously, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:14.240 what has gotten into you today? Now where was I? Okay. Yes. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.560 Our first story is from Stephani, a leasing agent from Chicago. Don't! 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:25.880 whose building tour was interrupted by an unexpected guest. Damn it, Len! 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:26.400 Listen to me. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.680 We meet with the leasing agent to see the apartment building. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.880 We get into the elevator, and then this woman walks in. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:44.680 Everything got cold. It was instantaneous. Meanwhile, the leasing agent 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.440 is so freaked out staring at the numbers going down 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.600 the entire time, she looked like she was having the crisis, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:57.760 and it all like everything was moving so slow, and 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:03.880 then the elevator just suddenly stopped. My name is Stephani, 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.480 and I had an unsettling encounter with a ghost on 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:16.400 an elevator. In 2022, I was working as a luxury 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:20.680 leasing agent in Chicago. When you think of luxury leasing 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.440 agent in Chicago, most people think of the high rises 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.011 and the skyscrapers, which is mostly what I worked with, 0:03:27.011 --> 0:03:29.520 but once in a while we would get clients that 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.640 would be like, we want a historic building lumped in 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:40.080 with all of these modern glass skyscrapers. So I got 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:45.200 this client. She specifically wanted to know if I had 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.360 any connections with this one building. She really wanted to 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.120 see this building because she was from Europe and it 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.960 was built after the First World War for the German 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:00.960 American Cultural Society members to gather to promote German American heritage. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.080 She's like, I just want to go to see this 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:09.320 older building, and that was like amazing. The tower apartment 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.560 building is in The Loop. If you're not familiar with the 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:18.960 Loop area of Chicago, there's breweries and bars and restaurants 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.520 and a lot of really old buildings that were built 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.679 around the time of the World's Fair, and there's also 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:30.080 a lot of sad stuff that happened. Chicago's famous for 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.240 our river that runs right down the middle separating the loops. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.760 A couple of years after the Titanic sank, there was 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:44.080 a huge, huge, huge boat disaster, hundreds of people died. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.240 That's probably six blocks away from this building. And then 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:55.120 there was the Iroquois Theater fire, which was devastating, hundreds 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:59.520 of deaths there too, that also is not far from 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:03.240 this apartment building. The Loop area just has a ton 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:08.200 of haunting stories. It's a very interesting area. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.960 So we go to this building. My client and I 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.680 were chatting. She's like, oh wow, this is just what 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:21.320 I wanted. This is tall and it has character, but 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:27.120 it's not like a soulless glass tower. We walk in. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:33.080 The lobby is just stunning. It looks like if 1920s 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:38.920 met a modern interior designer. It was just gorgeous. It's 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:43.440 decorated very funky inside. It's very very cool, very modern, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:48.520 very hip. The way that it works, there's a leasing 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.680 agent assigned to the building that shows you the unit. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:59.960 They show you everything, amenities, units, the gym. The leasing 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.440 agent went into the history of the building and was like, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.560 we're in the National Register of Historic Places. I was sold. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:12.120 My client really was just obsessed with it. We started 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.840 with the tour and we come to the elevator bank 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.919 and there was a portrait on the left of a 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.760 man and a portrait on the right of a woman, 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:25.520 and I was like, okay, this is really cool. We 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:31.320 started with the unit. We get in the elevator, We 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.600 walk in and there's lots of light. They preserved most 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.800 of it, like the rounded windows, really cool, like old doorknobs. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:45.680 My client thought it was really really interesting. So we 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:51.080 leave the unit and we take the elevator up to 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:59.200 the pool, which was on the top floor. And this 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.719 pool is just insane. It looks like a Turkish bath house. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.120 It's just like stepping into a time capsule, perfectly preserved 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.440 historic 1920s pool. It's not like any pool you see 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:17.520 anywhere in Chicago. And then we get in the elevator. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.160 We go down to the ballroom. It looks the same 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.800 as it would have looked a hundred years ago. They've 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.240 just moved gym equipment into the ballroom. My client is 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.280 just like going insane. She's like, it's like a high 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:37.080 rise with character. So as we're finishing the tour, we 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.360 get into the elevator. It was me, my client, and 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.160 the leasing agent. We press a button to go back 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.840 down to the lobby, but the doors are still open, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:52.240 and at the very last second, this lady just comes 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:57.680 into the elevator. I was shocked. There was nobody on 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.680 the floor with us. She just sort of appeared. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.320 When this woman walked into the elevator, the temperature dropped 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:10.840 twenty degrees. I mean, it was a freezing wall and 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.520 it was instantaneous. My client even said it's getting cold 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.520 in here. It was as soon as she was in 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.680 the elevator car, everything got cold. It was a big change. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:29.600 There was just something about this woman. She was very short, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.640 probably five feet tall. She was wearing this vintage maroon 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.880 buttoned down jacket with like the button cuff, very reminiscent 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.000 of like the thirties. And then she had a pleated 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:47.199 skirt that went down to like mid calf length. It 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.880 was like a dark brown. She was wearing shoes with 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.960 a really small thick heel with a rounded toe. But 0:08:55.600 --> 0:09:00.440 the kicker was the hair. She had very short hair. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:06.040 It had finger waves. It's like the very shellacked down 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:11.120 bang that looks like a wave. That's not anything you 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.400 see now. It was a hairstyle that I would best 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.800 describe as you would see on your grandmother's portrait from 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.480 the thirties. And then her lipstick. It was like heart 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.040 shaped with a really defined cupid's bow and hella a 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:29.119 dark lipstick, almost flapper style. She was just an interesting, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.600 kind of harsh looking woman. And she doesn't hit a floor. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.160 We asked her what floor she was going to, and 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.000 she did not answer, so we did not hit a 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.680 button for her. We hit the button for the lobby. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:50.200 So the elevator doors closed, and my client starts talking 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.160 to her, asking like, how do you like the building? 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:55.920 And then I'm like, yes, how do you like the building? 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.160 Because I'm like, you know, all weirdness of this put aside, 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.320 what does she think about the building? And she's just 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.520 staring straight ahead. She's not talking, she's not responding to 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.760 any of our questions. I'm just thinking this is really odd, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.400 but I'm asking our questions. I'm just like, do you 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.120 like the neighborhood? No answer, She's just staring straight ahead. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:24.000 Like okay, cool, how long have you lived in the building? 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.720 No answer, literally, not really registering that I'm in the 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.640 elevator with her. I ask her what she does on 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:39.839 the weekends. Just nothing. She's not looking at me, just 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:44.520 looking straight ahead. And then she did turn her head 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:49.520 slightly towards me, but it wasn't like a full turn, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.160 and then it went right back. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:11:01.400 That was when I noticed her skin. It was almost 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:08.440 like an oil painting, like gray, kind of waxy. It 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:12.840 did not look like living skin. It didn't have the 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:17.560 coloring that like a person would have. I couldn't see 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:22.079 through her, but she also wasn't solid. It was just unsettling. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.079 I look over to the leasing agent and I can 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.440 see that she is visibly freaked out. She was not 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.920 making eye contact with me, but she looked like she 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:38.520 was having a crisis. She's looking straight ahead, watching the 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.560 numbers go down, and it just felt like everything was 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:46.520 moving so slow. It felt like every floor was a mile. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:53.120 Time just slowed down. And then the elevator just stopped 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:58.280 on this random floor and the doors open, which was 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.960 weird because we hadn't pressed a floor aside from the lobby. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.000 It stops on the ninth floor, and then the woman 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.120 gets out of the elevator. She just like walks out, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:11.131 but it was like a glide. I take a beat 0:12:11.131 --> 0:12:14.120 and I decide that I want to follow her. I 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.480 was like, I have to get to the bottom of this. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.280 So I walk out of the elevator right behind her. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:25.079 She turned right. I turned right, but she's gone. There 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.960 was no one there. There's not a single person in 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.400 the hallway. This woman has vanished. There wasn't like an 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.200 exit staircase, and there was not enough time for her 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.257 to have unlocked an apartment door and gone in. We 0:12:41.257 --> 0:12:45.479 would have heard a door slam. This woman was just gone. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:50.800 I walked back to the elevator. My client is like 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.680 chattering away. She's like, ah, like that lady was really quiet, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:02.400 and I was like, yeah, she was. I get in the elevator. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.120 The leasing agent is still like traumatized in the corner, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.520 and the temperature is back to normal. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.000 Before we hit the first floor, the leasing agent was like, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.439 I am so sorry about that woman. You know, people 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.839 sometimes see her. She's harmless, she doesn't do anything, but 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.840 sometimes people see her outside of their doors, like she 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.040 just kind of wanders around. When we walked out of 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.120 the elevator, I see those portraits again, the pictures, and 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.600 I'm like, oh my god, I think that's the woman 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:42.720 I saw in the elevator and I'm looking at these 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:47.240 portraits of this man and this woman. The leasing agent 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.560 is like, that's John Dillinger and his wife. Have you 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:55.079 seen the movie Public Enemies? And I was like, oh yeah, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.320 because I'm all about history, that's my thing. And she's like, okay, well, 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.960 the scene where Johnny Depp's character, John Dillinger, met his 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:08.960 wife in the movie, that scene happened in real life 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:13.480 at our building because he was a German American citizen 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.880 and he was part of the Steuben Club and they 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.840 met in the ballroom at this building. So we have 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.080 the pictures here because he liked to hang out here 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:27.360 a lot. And I was like, really, that was just 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:32.320 like my aha moment, that's exactly who it was. The 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.560 lady in the elevator was John Dillinger's wife. There was 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.680 like not a question in my mind. It was the 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:43.840 same lady. It was the same lipstick, same eyes, same hair, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:52.520 same aura, same person. My client is like, oh my god, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.600 Oh my god, I didn't Oh my god. She's like, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.280 that's why she wasn't talking. I'm like, okay, this makes 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.040 sense that she would hang around here because this was 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.680 kind of their home and they did have an apartment there. 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.520 I do personally believe that John Dillinger's wife does still 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.760 roam the halls of the building. My client called me 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.960 later that night, obviously to tell me her decision, and 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.000 she did not go with that building. I think she 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.720 was a little freaked out, but I don't think it 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.880 was ultimately would cause her to not rent there. But 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.680 I would move there. I still would. It was a 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.440 great building. It has a ghost. If it was the 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:39.440 freaking conjuring ghost, it would be another story. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.160 You know, I never went to Chicago when I was alive. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.520 The Midwest just didn't seem relevant, but now I'm starting 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.960 to think I was wrong. I mean, mob wife was 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.600 a micro-aesthetic only like two trend cycles ago. Of course, 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.720 now we're in more of a sleepy Marionette girlfriend coastal 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.200 proletariat winter era, but still fairly relevant. If you ask me, 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.640 John Dillinger's wife sounds like an influencer of her time, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:08.080 which I can totally relate to. You keep aimlessly drifting 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.960 through time and space, you beautiful, tortured soul. Now, like 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.560 any good influencer, here comes the part where I try 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:20.400 to sell you things. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.720 Ah, what I wouldn't give to participate in capitalism again. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.560 But there's no time to dwell on it. Well, I 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.760 mean there's infinite time to dwell, but we're not doing 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.800 that today. Now. I find this next story to be 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.240 just as, if not more relatable, than the last. See 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:42.680 if you can guess why. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.280 She's like, it's time to go. I don't like what 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.840 I'm seeing. I can't take this. I said, well, why 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.880 what's going on? And I'm looking in her direction thinking 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:57.360 I would see something. I see nothing, but I can 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:02.840 tell that she was terrified. It's turned into something out 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.840 of a horror movie. I'm Pierce. I had a jealous 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:14.520 ghost in my basement. I live in the Metro area 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.520 of Chicago, but in the oldest house on the block 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:21.480 and probably the oldest house in the neighborhood. It has 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.679 three different floors, one being a basement apartment as well 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.840 as a coach house that used to be stables. This 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:34.280 house is very, very old, and with that there's probably 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.720 many stories, many things that happened. My whole family down 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.680 the line are all musicians, so naturally, with the basement 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.400 apartment being vacant, I turned that into my own studio 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:51.080 when I was in college, so I would go down 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.040 there to practice and compose, but a lot of times 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.960 I would just go down there at to chill, watch 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.960 some movies. But I noticed that during the day, especially 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:07.520 when I was alone down there, I never felt truly alone. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.960 At first, I kind of brushed it off, but I 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.320 noticed this trend as time went on, and then I 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.760 realized that after kind of sitting with this odd feeling, 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:26.000 I felt as though something was watching me. I come 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.880 from the Romani culture, more widely known as the Gypsy culture, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:35.320 which is very much in tune with supernatural. We are 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:40.800 descendants of an ancient culture from India that, through diaspora 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:45.560 and just through many centuries, we were nomadic people that 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:50.600 eventually landed in Eastern Europe and at least with my 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.880 family in particular and the majority of Roma today, they're 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:58.480 all very creative and musically inclined. We're also very much 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:03.040 in touch with our spiritual side. We believed in the 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:08.040 ability for people to sense positive, neutral and negative energies 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.520 from an unnamable amount of entities that may cross our paths. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.639 Although we're Catholic, we do believe that there is the 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.280 ability for spirits to sort of linger family members to 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.840 visit things like that, and when I was in the basement, 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:29.040 I felt the presence of a young girl that essentially 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.719 was just sitting there watching me. I just kind of 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.400 figured this is just a passing individual on a very 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.080 old plot of land, and if it just happens that 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.480 I have somebody who's just listening to my music as 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:47.520 I play, hey great. It didn't necessarily register as like 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:52.720 something to be worried about. For the next few months, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.160 whenever I would go down there, I would feel that presence. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:01.080 And then one night I happened to be at a 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.440 jazz jam session with a friend of mine, a wonderful singer. 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:08.520 She and I got to a point where we agreed that, 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.119 you know, we should become like a singer songwriter duo 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:16.080 of sorts. I'd play guitars, she would sing, and I 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:20.160 decided that we should get cracking and start recording something. 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:28.320 So I brought her over to the house. As soon 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.040 as we got everything set up, guitars tuned, mics set, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.000 I was grabbing us some water. She looks at me, 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:40.919 and she looked very off, and she says, I have 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:45.040 like this really weird headache. I don't feel comfortable right now, 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.560 and she told me, I feel like we aren't alone. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.760 I didn't want to tell her that I thought maybe 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.960 there's a ghost down here in the basement, and I 0:20:58.000 --> 0:20:59.960 didn't want to spook her, so I just kind of 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.919 played it off. I said, let's give it a few minutes. 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.159 Let's maybe see we could get a song in, and 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.120 if it comes to the point that you still feel 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:12.480 this way, we'll go upstairs and figure something out. So 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.119 we try to get through one song, but I noticed 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.680 that what started as just a look of uncomfort turned 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:26.520 into a look of fear. At that moment, I realized 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:36.440 that what I thought was a neutral presence suddenly became negative, 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:43.280 but it was just directed towards her. I decided to 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:48.520 grab everything. We ended up going upstairs, set the whole 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:48.966 thing up. 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.439 Somehow we get through a song, and I remember she 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:58.080 basically says, yeah, I'm not feeling this whatsoever. Something doesn't 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:05.399 want me here. It's a very like negative presence. So 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.520 I took her home, but she made it very clear 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.560 that although she had fun, she would not ever come 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:18.439 back to that house. She never came back, and I 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:24.000 started to question whether me being comfortable with this presence 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:34.240 was a smart idea or not. But being sensitive to 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:38.840 these energies, I wasn't afraid. It just felt very neutral, 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.800 felt like if I was sitting down on stage performing 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.800 to like, you know, a couple, or maybe one particular 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.840 person in an audience. You know. I didn't mind her, 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.359 she didn't mind me. So I never really thought anything 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.840 about it. But that is until a couple of years 0:22:54.920 --> 0:23:02.120 later on Halloween. My girlfriend and I decided to go 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:06.639 bar crawling. It happened to be a very cold and 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:11.520 rainy night, so we weren't out long. We decided we'd 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:15.399 rather grab a couple of burgers and just sort of 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.720 spend the rest of the night watching some scary movies 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:22.879 at my place. We walk in the house head to 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:27.520 the basement and I'm starting to get the TV set up. 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:34.960 She was sitting on the couch and as I'm messing 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:42.280 with the TV, she tells me, Pierce, I don't want 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:48.040 to be down here. I don't feel comfortable. And then 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:54.439 she says, there's a little girl with us. That just 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.439 gave me goosebumps because she's also a Romani. She just 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.320 happens to have a little bit more of a heightened 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:04.679 sense than I do. And I said, well, tell me, 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.800 what are you feeling? What are you seeing? She says, Pierce, 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:13.040 I see this little girl with dirty blonde hair, and 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:17.280 she's wearing a white linen dress with like a black 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:21.639 bow in the front, but it's dirty, little disheveled. She 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:26.280 has bruises up and down her arms and legs. She said, 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.960 she had like these very sunken in eyes, and the 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:35.400 pupils were a glowing yellow. She said, she doesn't want 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.480 me here. She doesn't like when you bring other girls here. 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:47.440 Then she describes to me what she's seeing. She tells me, Pierce, 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:52.159 this girl is on the ground now and she's contorting. 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:56.120 Her limbs are up like spider legs, but they're twisting. 0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:02.199 Her head is facing directly towards me, and she's smiling 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:08.120 with these glowing eyes. The way she describes is that 0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:13.359 this girl does not want her there anymore. And I 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:18.160 can see that my girlfriend is completely petrified at this point. 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.320 She says, Pierce, we have to leave, and seeing the 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.239 sheer terror on her face, I start to feel that 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:29.520 same amount of terror that she does. So I grabbed 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:35.119 the food, packed everything back up, took her home, and 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.520 even on the car ride home, I can tell that 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:44.439 my girlfriend was physically and just mentally terrified for what 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:49.000 she saw. So I get pissed. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:53.600 I'm mad now. I head back, and my first thing 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.600 that I did is I went back to the basement. 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.040 But I still did not see this girl. All I 0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.320 know is that the presence was there, and I lashed out, 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.960 screaming my head off, like in anger. I talked to 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.879 her like a little girl, and I basically told her like, 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.200 shame on you. Why are you doing this? These girls 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.520 aren't here to harm you. I do not want you 0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.359 here no more. You are not welcomed ever again. I 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:32.840 don't want you on this property. Be gone. This past August, 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.879 it was my twenty eighth birthday. I'm sitting down with 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:43.600 the family and my brother happened to be going through 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.280 my TikTok and stumbled upon this video that I made 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.920 telling the same exact story. He looked at me, he said, 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.720 what is this video about a ghost girl in the basement? 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.719 So I looked at him and I told him, you 0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.960 don't want to watch that. Just ignore that because he 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:07.520 spooks easily. He's not like me. Warned him, it's pretty intense. 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:14.600 He doesn't listen. He finishes the video, his mouth agape, 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.840 and he says, why didn't you tell any of us 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.720 about this little girl? The way you described her, with 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.720 the dirty blonde hair, the white dress with the bow. 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.679 I've seen this girl pass my bedroom in this house, 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:40.439 and I looked at him stunned. As we're sitting there 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:45.480 and talking about this, my father chimes in and says, yeah, 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.120 I've seen so many different things in this house. That's 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.760 why I keep the picture of Jesus near the archway 0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:56.520 that leads from our living room into our kitchen, because 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.359 I think that that archway, for some reason, is a 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:05.000 portal between our world and theirs. And he says, I 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.480 can't tell you how many times I've seen different people, 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.879 different shadow figures, and a little girl walking in the house. 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:19.720 We all just kind of stood there, just realizing that 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.280 we're not the only ones who live here. A lot 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.160 of people say this ghost had a crush on you 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.120 and took a liking to you, because anytime there would 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.520 be a girl around, she would make her presence known 0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:36.879 and it would be malicious. 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.160 So I said, I find this story to be relatable, 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:46.960 and for all of you who guessed it's because of 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:51.560 the jealous ghost girlfriend trope. You're wrong. I don't get jealous. 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:56.880 It's relatable because musicians are also my weakness, so I 0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.440 feel for this spirit, but unlike her, I get what 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.880 I want. In my opinion, Pierce got off lucky. There's 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.800 a fine line between possessive and possession, but not to fear. 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:16.320 Let's bring those heart rates down with some ads. 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.400 Well, haunto's that's all we've got. I don't know about you, 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.840