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Speaker 2: MYI?

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Speaker 1: It's one more thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm strong and getty. One more thing that a Star

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Speaker 3: Trek character with a head like a horse in it,

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Speaker 1: It's Chinese and I don't know if I pronounced it

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Speaker 1: this made the rounds over the weekend. It was somebody

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Speaker 1: the New York Times wrote about it. It was basically

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Speaker 1: some woman saying, I'd love to have a wife. She's

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Speaker 1: I'll do the ones she hates. We'll split the bills,

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Speaker 1: of the replies were, Yeah, that sounds awesome. I'd like

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Speaker 1: isn't that kind of what a marriage would be if

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Speaker 1: you just found a man? I like, you split the

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Speaker 1: chores and try to be financially responsible, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the sexist part wouldn't be great.

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Speaker 4: But she's not a lesbian.

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Speaker 1: She's not lesbian. It's just it's I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: guess the the I know a tinge of men are

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Speaker 1: stupid and useless. Yes, would would help out with your chores, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: gets that whole weird dating thing that's going on right

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Speaker 1: now where there's just you know, people aren't getting together. Uh,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do about that it

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Speaker 1: failed to reproduce and die away. I guess it would

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Speaker 3: Defeatism is a warm blanket that people like if my

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Speaker 3: job sucks, all jobs suck, and I'm just not gonna

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Speaker 3: My man sucks, all men suck. I'm not gonna try anymore.

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Speaker 1: But in this case it would be I've got a

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was talking more about that whole men

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Speaker 4: Post the other day with the kind of going along

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Speaker 4: the line of what Joe's talking about, like the all

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with that.

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Speaker 4: You're bitter and that's the only reason you're If some

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Speaker 3: How many members of the Nick quint is He man

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Speaker 3: woman haters club like have had a meaningful relationship with

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Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, Chinese culture is huge right now, God.

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Speaker 1: The lack of enforcement is striking for a country known

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Speaker 3: Wow, why China's weird? China is weird. We've got a

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Speaker 3: It's actually pretty cool in a lot of way.

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Speaker 1: I guess they're all so lonely, weird. They're looking at

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Speaker 4: All of that makes me sick.

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Speaker 3: To my stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you got it right. You got neighbors trading pictures

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Speaker 3: Or selling it to people on behind and yeah creeps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Katie? She is a Bay Area person grew up in China,

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Speaker 1: On the air, though, Joe, do you remember? I don't

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Speaker 1: they'd go out and find a stray cat for dinner. Katie, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the people who lived there. I'm completely forgotten about that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, they're eating the cats, They're eating the dogs.

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Speaker 3: Do we have any of those musical remixes. That was

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Speaker 3: the best thing ever.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the best things that's ever happened

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Speaker 1: in the history of the world.

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Speaker 2: Including they're eating the dogs, the people that came in,

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Speaker 2: They're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating of the

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Speaker 2: people that live there.

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Speaker 3: You go, any reason to play that, Come visit scenic China. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Toby Lincoln I'm talking to my cats.

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Speaker 2: I won't do anything like this, I promise.

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Speaker 4: There's a big stutter in there, Michael, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Ye watch your back, Toby. Well, I guess that's it.

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Speaker 3: If a cat named Toby