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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Jason Martin and I were texting

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Speaker 2: this morning getting ready for this show. The theme of

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Speaker 2: the text chain was, uh, tournament's been lacking a little

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Speaker 2: drama so far. Well, Houston has just made a free

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Speaker 2: throw to go up four with two point one seconds left.

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Speaker 2: Gonzaga pushed them to the wire byu gets a defensive

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Speaker 2: stop just moments ago to survive against Wisconsin. As de

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Speaker 2: Seger told you, we had Arkansas winner earlier. It has

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Speaker 2: been I think it's it's safe to say, j mart

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Speaker 2: I know that there aren't a ton of you know,

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Speaker 2: there's no thirteen seed in the second round, but today

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Speaker 2: kind of felt like the tournament for the first time

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Speaker 2: maybe so far this march.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, my man, I'm doing a lot better

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Speaker 1: today than I was the last couple of days. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to the basketball, you're one hundred percent right

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Speaker 1: about that. Outside of that first game, which you could

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Speaker 1: tune out of by the first first time out, everything

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Speaker 1: else has been at least pretty dog on good. And

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Speaker 1: even though this late slate it looked like we were

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Speaker 1: going to see a couple of runaway, close blowout situations,

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Speaker 1: all of them got tight late and then this late

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Speaker 1: game with UCLA and Tennessee even though Tennessee's up seven,

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Speaker 1: these are two really good defensive teams and they could

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Speaker 1: be very streaky offensively too, So I'm not sure about

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Speaker 1: that one. But past that, like, there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of fight in a lot of these teams, including this

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Speaker 1: Gonzaga team that easily it's not anywhere near one of

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Speaker 1: their better teams. We know that, but you know, down

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Speaker 1: twelve against this Houston club deep into the second half

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Speaker 1: and then you fight it back to where Houston has

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Speaker 1: to win the thing basically with a free throw at

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Speaker 1: the end to actually ice it away. Shows a lot

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Speaker 1: of guts from them. You've seen some really good coaching

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Speaker 1: performances from guys that have had a lot of talent

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Speaker 1: in the past on the floor. Maybe they don't have

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Speaker 1: as much talent, and they're showing how good a coaches

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Speaker 1: they are because of the way that these guys have

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So that was a little dig at Ben McCollum from Drake.

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Speaker 2: Huh No, I'm just kidding. Let's get I'm kidding, Let's

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Speaker 2: get right into it. Awesome, awesome, awesome day hoops. I

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Speaker 2: agree with you, and listen, I'm somebody who loves college hoops,

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Speaker 2: but I will sit here and say that the first

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Speaker 2: two days certainly lack drama. Again, Houston survives for people

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Speaker 2: just joining us. The game was not over when we

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Speaker 2: came on air. The two free throws late ice it BYU,

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Speaker 2: by the way, just clinched their first Sweet sixteen bit

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Speaker 2: since Jimmer for Debt was on campus. Jimmer was in

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Speaker 2: the building in Denver tonight BYU beats Wisconsin. But I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you a story of the day, story of the tournament.

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Speaker 2: And I think this might have been who you may

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Speaker 2: have hypothetically been alluding to. J Mart the coach of

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Speaker 2: the tenh seeded team in the West Region that was

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Speaker 2: playing in Providence, Rhode Island, earlier today. So listen, you

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Speaker 2: know we don't need to relitigate and go over John

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Speaker 2: Caliperi's history. We know he's put a lot of players

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Speaker 2: one national championship. And I will say I've been a

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Speaker 2: how did this guy on win one championship at Kentucky?

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Speaker 2: And it ran its course? He leaves Kentucky last year

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Speaker 2: after a loss to fourteen seed Oakland in the opening

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Speaker 2: after losing to a fifteen seed in twenty twenty two. Real,

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Speaker 2: you know, at one, I've been a defender. But Arkansas

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Speaker 2: they get the win in Cali Perry's old stomping grounds.

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Speaker 2: Now that got preempty because Luka Dancic got traded about

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Speaker 2: He beats Bill self in Kansas on Thursday. But then

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Speaker 2: today against Rick Patino, we know the history between those two.

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Speaker 2: You can call them rivals, you can call them enemies,

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Speaker 2: And then they ran into the Arkansas Razorbacks fun game,

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Speaker 3: By the referees for a big for a big chuck

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Speaker 2: Arkansas wins seventy five sixty six, though Cali Perry gets

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is the first time Cal Perry has

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Speaker 1: There was something honest in what he was saying there, Like,

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Speaker 1: We're lucky to get out of here. This thing was

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Speaker 1: But there's something to be said for enjoying what you

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Speaker 1: it the pressure there. He went to Arkansas and he

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Speaker 1: He had plenty of money. He said, I love coaching basketball.

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Speaker 1: think part of this is he got a refresher, like

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Speaker 2: I think there's zero doubt, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: When they lost to Oakland, I said he should resign,

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Speaker 2: And then two I just said, listen, whatever. And I've

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Speaker 2: good for everybody. I think Kentucky got an alum in

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Speaker 2: And I will say I was the guy. I was

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Speaker 2: you know, the fan base, like you said, was over him,

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Speaker 2: and especially I think really the last two or three years,

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Speaker 2: it felt like no matter what he did, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: it was really like, J Martin, I know you'll appreciate this.

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Speaker 2: It was like Ryan Day before he won the national title.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great comparison.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and you know it it felt like and

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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, But it felt like half of

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Speaker 2: the fan base was rooting against him. But then like

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Speaker 2: a like like, let me even take that back. Half

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Speaker 2: big portion of that fan base was rooting basically rooting

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Speaker 2: it for it to be over, Like if we keep losing,

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Speaker 2: he'll eventually go. And again I think that was the

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Speaker 2: where you have a clean slate, you know, it got dark.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if the fans. Ever,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think the fans knew what to expect.

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Speaker 2: I think they were disappointed with the start, but it

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Speaker 3: But I want to do Jamar.

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Speaker 2: I want to come back and talk about the other

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Speaker 2: You know he'll never have the wins, but where does

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Everybody Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's actually the perfect metaphor for Caliperry, and I know

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Speaker 2: he is, I don't know how many better chances that

434
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: he is going to have than than this one right here.

435
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: But I'll also say didn't think it was his best

436
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: day in the ex's and o's department, which is not

437
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: something you say often. Obviously, r J Luis, the Biggiast

438
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 2: player of the year, was on the bench late in

439
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: the game, and you know what, Ian and Mary pull

440
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: up the sound of him. You know, we don't need

441
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: it this second. I should have told you, but we'll

442
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 2: get to it in a second. But r J Luis

443
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: was on the bench when the game mattered. Beyond that,

444
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was weird the whole Arkansas frontline was

445
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: in followed trouble. They kind of never really went inside

446
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: to Zoobi edge of four, who was basically their best

447
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 2: player on the day. Just felt like as greate as

448
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 2: Patino has been all year in his entire career, probably

449
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: wasn't his best day.

450
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Speaker 1: Jmartin, No, it definitely wasn't it. Was weird. It was odd,

451
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: the r J Luise thing, and even the way he

452
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: talked about it afterwards very strange, and he kind of

453
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: had I was trying to go back and find it

454
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Speaker 1: while you were talking just now. Last year, his first

455
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: year there, he had a press conference where he just

456
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: crushed his team. Oh yeah, famous. I can't remember it.

457
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember like when it happened. It was I

458
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: remember just thinking, my goodness, that's one of the most

459
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: unbelievable things I've ever heard of coach say about his

460
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Speaker 1: own players.

461
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Speaker 3: And fat and slow was basically the theme of the year.

462
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's right. Yeah yeah, okay, so so I'm

463
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: not crazy. Part of me was like, maybe he didn't

464
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: do that, but I thought I remember talking to Brian

465
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: Know about it on one of the Monday shows that

466
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: we had filled in for last year. But this was odd,

467
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: and the way he talked about Luis after the game

468
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: was odd, and I mentioned this to you in the chat.

469
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Speaker 1: It was just like, I don't recall ever seeing a

470
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Speaker 1: coach like walk from the coaches box over to the

471
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Speaker 1: opposing coaches box and shake the hand to have a

472
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Speaker 1: conversation with the guy that he's coaching. Against with four

473
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 1: point nine seconds left in the game. And that's what

474
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: happened in this game, Like there were free throws being

475
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: taken and yet it was basically over at that point.

476
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like they didn't wait for

477
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: he didn't wait for the horn. He just rolled over

478
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: there and said, I knew a better man today. I'm

479
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: ready to get out of here. Like it was very,

480
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: very weird. It was like all of a sudden, in

481
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: the last handful of minutes, he just decided, I don't

482
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: think Saint john Z's to win this game, Like I

483
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: don't I don't think we should win this game. Like

484
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: it it was very strange. I don't really know how

485
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: to explain it.

486
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Speaker 2: So a couple things. One, I'm trying to find reading

487
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 2: the quotes right now. So first he said, this is

488
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: this is last year, this was this.

489
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: Is the one I was talking I was referencing.

490
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Speaker 2: Okay, First he said, quote, this is the most unenjoyable

491
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: experience of my lifetime.

492
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: This has been so disappointing.

493
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: Then he said, quote, do we have explative starts with

494
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: s ens and y? Do we have expedive facilities? Yes

495
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: we do, but we're doing something about that. But that's

496
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: not the reason we're losing. Having expeditive facilities has nothing

497
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: to do with guarding. Joel Soriano is slow laterally, He's

498
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: not very fast on the court. Chris Ledlam is slow laterally,

499
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: Sean Conway's slow, Lattery Blady Brady Dunn relapsed physically weak.

500
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: Drisa is slow laterally. We kind of lost this season

501
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: with the way we recruited. We recruited the antithesis of

502
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 2: the way I coach. It's a good group. They try hard,

503
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: but they're just not very tough.

504
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, Like I remember it, and I was

505
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: just like, how do you play? How do you send

506
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: your kid there? Sure at that point it's like, I mean,

507
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: he you don't. You don't have to call him out

508
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: by name like he called him all he like he

509
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: went down basically the post sheet, the score sheet after

510
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: the game that's handed to the media, and he was

511
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: just like going down. He's like, no, yeah, I coach him,

512
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: he's not good. Yeah, I coach him, he's not good. Yeah,

513
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: I coach him. Yeah, he plays really hard. But that's

514
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: basically a bless your heart statement right there, Like, oh,

515
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: he's about his own guys, And it wasn't the end

516
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: of the year, Like, it wasn't their last game. How

517
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: did they play for him again after that?

518
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: Well, and let's get to what he said after the game,

519
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: and I'll say this is one I'm with you. I

520
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: thought that the postgame handshake with about six seven seconds

521
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: to go was a little bit soft, a little bit

522
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: you know whatever, like basically, you know, kind of like

523
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: a sored loser for lack of a better team, right,

524
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, and whatever. So anyway, after the game, for

525
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: people who didn't watch it, r J. Lewis was the

526
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: Big East by the way, I think it's r J. Lewis,

527
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: so I apologize it spelled Luis. I think it's Lewis.

528
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 3: But r J.

529
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: Lewis, Big East Player of the Year, was on the bench.

530
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: And keep in mind, Jamart, I know you know this,

531
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: but it was still like a four to five point game.

532
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't out of control. And even the broadcasters were saying,

533
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: like why is he on the bench? One and then

534
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: too they were saying like Saint John's isn't a goo

535
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 2: three point shooting team, and he's kind of the best

536
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 2: three point shooter that you have.

537
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: Steve Lapis, Steve Lapis was doing a game and Lapis said,

538
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: he goes, look, man, Patino's gone a lot further and

539
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: he's coaching career than I have. But he's like, I'm

540
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 1: not taking that guy out if he's won for thirty

541
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: from three. Well here's And I didn't disagree with what

542
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: Lapis was saying at all.

543
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: No, it was weird. And Patino was asked about it

544
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: after the game. Here's what he had to say.

545
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Speaker 4: You had RJ on the bench, you know, for a

546
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 4: pretty long stretch at the end. Was that just because

547
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: he just didn't wasn't making him or was there something

548
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: more to it?

549
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 5: Played thirty minutes, it's a long time, so he was no,

550
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 5: played thirty minutes, and I went with other people. You

551
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: already know the answers, Roger, you're asking leading questions. You

552
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 5: already know it, So don't.

553
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: Ask leading questions.

554
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 5: You already know why he didn't play.

555
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: Was there one play with ARJ that made you sit

556
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: him in the last five minutes?

557
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 5: You know he was three for seventeen. You know he

558
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: was oh for three, So you're answering your own I'm

559
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 5: not gonna knock one of my players.

560
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: But you just did.

561
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, now we've said all the right things about Patino,

562
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: and I think deservedly so he kind of came off

563
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: like a sore loser. And I'll say this too, I

564
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: listened to some of his press conference. I'm telling you, man,

565
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm telling you when that bracket came out, because because

566
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: it's easy to forget this, Cali Perry owned him for

567
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: a decade when Cali Perry was at Kentucky and he

568
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: was at Louisville, and could if you go back and listen,

569
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: and we don't have the sound. I didn't ask for

570
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: the sound, so that's on me. But after the Omaha

571
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: they beat Omaha in round one, you could feel because

572
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: remember this whole year he's been you know, it's been

573
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: a personal revival tour for him. Is he's on fallin

574
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: and he's smiling and he's kissing babies and whatever.

575
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: And you could see.

576
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: His tenor change in that pre you know, as the

577
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: as it started to switch to the Arkansas game. And

578
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: I just think Cali Perry owned him at Louisville. I

579
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: think this was the one guy he didn't want to see.

580
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: I know it's easy to say in hindsight, but you

581
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: could just tell. And by the way he said and

582
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: done all the right things with the media this season,

583
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, sore loser on the court

584
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: kind of shaking cal Perry's hand with five, six second

585
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: and eight seconds left in the game. I thought he

586
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: sounded like a sore loser. At the press conference, I thought,

587
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: you know, you and I have been in those situations.

588
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure some of our listeners are part of media.

589
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: You gotta ask tough questions. The biggest player of the

590
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: year was on the bench to end the game, was

591
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: not fouled out, and I thought he was kind of

592
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: standoffish in a way that he didn't need to be.

593
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm trying to think of a good analogy

594
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: based on what you're saying, the sore loser argument. It's like,

595
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: so I played tennis in high school. That was the

596
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: sport that I was on team and let her in

597
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: and everything else. But there was at least once or

598
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: twice where I knew I was gonna lose, Like I

599
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: just didn't have it that day. This guy was just

600
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: far better than I was. Maybe he was underseated, maybe

601
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: I was overseed, who knows what it was at the time,

602
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: But like towards the end, when I know I was

603
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: gonna lose. I started just tattooing the ball, just sending

604
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: it out of the cage, basically just completely throwing it

605
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: like he would serve and I would just make sure

606
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: that that thing was just ridiculously out And like, you

607
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: know what you're doing in that moment, you're stealing the

608
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: win away. Sure, you're not giving them the victory. You're

609
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: essentially just like, yeah, I'm gonna get out of here.

610
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah you win great, But it becomes about you. It's

611
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: not really about the other person in that moment. And

612
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of how I feel. It's just like, no,

613
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: you gotta lose honorably, like you have to. You have

614
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: to lose being competitive. You don't just you know what,

615
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna beat this guy today. I

616
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: don't like the way my team's playing. And if you

617
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: listen to the way he talked about him last year,

618
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: not the same guys, of course, but the way he

619
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: talked about his team last year. The guy that can

620
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: say that in a press conference, I'm not surprised would

621
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: then kind of do this. But it's just like, how

622
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: much success do you need? Man? Like you had a great,

623
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: great year only one guy is gonna be happy at

624
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: the end of this tournament when it comes to just

625
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: the sheer win loss of it all, like the emotions

626
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: that the kids face and that they're dealing with when

627
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: they lose and all the stuff. Notwithstanding, you got to

628
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: be better than that. I'm sorry, Like you've been too

629
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: good for too long at too many places. You've had

630
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: too many people bow down to your greatness to do

631
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: something like that. And you know, I don't think that

632
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: cal took it that way or whatever, but it does.

633
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: It's almost like you're sort of showing up what's happening

634
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: on the floor to make it about yourself.

635
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: Don't disagree. Saint John's falls And of course Arkansas advances.

636
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: They will play Texas Tech on Thursday night. By the way,

637
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: how about this host I'm filling in for Well, but

638
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: you know, play the music, Disager. We'll get to what's

639
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: trending in a second. I was thinking about this. They're

640
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: playing in San Francisco on Thursday, filling in with Mike

641
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: harmon Wednesday night, filling in for Doug Gottlieb on Friday.

642
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: In theory, I could sneak up for that game if

643
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Disager knows it's about a thirty minute flight.

644
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: I was thinking about do I fly up for the

645
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: West Regionals.

646
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: I probably won't, but it's a good way to transition

647
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: to Steve de Sager with what's trending.

648
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Speaker 6: Would take longer than thirty seconds to find parking there.

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Speaker 6: Just for the record, by the way, I'm taking you, bro,

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Speaker 6: you're renting your car as you were talking about coaches

651
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Speaker 6: with the handshake before the game is over. Famously, Woody

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Speaker 6: Hayes of undefeated Ohio States nineteen seventy five season went

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Speaker 6: to the Rose Bowl. I repeat undefeated, and in the

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Speaker 6: Rose Bowl we're shutting out UCLA and then got beat

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Speaker 6: by coach Dick vermil and UCLA and there were still

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Speaker 6: eight seconds on the clocks. They're starting to pick the

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Speaker 6: coach up on their shoulders, but the clock is stopped. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 6: with Kirk Goudi at the mic, Woody Hayes walked across

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Speaker 6: the middle of the field to shake hands before the

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Speaker 6: game was over.

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Speaker 1: You're starting across the field the deck for a meal, the.

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Speaker 3: Shake hands with him.

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Speaker 6: So it has happened. And this, you know, of course,

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Speaker 6: what he hates, that whole world revolved around him. So

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Speaker 6: what does he care what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like that that's disrespectful though, right, Like the

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Speaker 1: way we're talking like that doesn't feel like that's not

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Speaker 1: a respectful thing that what he Hayes was doing. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a respectful move by Rick

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Speaker 1: Patino either.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I think it's not respectful to the game, is

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Speaker 6: what that was.

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Speaker 2: And like, like, like j Mart said, it's almost like

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Speaker 2: you're still making it about yourself and taking it away

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Speaker 2: not just from cal Perry, but I mean for the

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Speaker 2: Arkansas players. I mean that's their moment too, and you're

677
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Speaker 2: kind of making it again about yourself.

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Speaker 6: We've got one late game in the second round of

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Speaker 6: tonight's NCAA tournament coverage to see now up fifty five

680
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Speaker 6: thirty nine on UCLA with about seven minutes to go,

681
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Speaker 6: and you kind of reference what kind of game it

682
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Speaker 6: could be with these two teams matching up. Yes, one

683
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Speaker 6: team is shooting only forty percent from the floor and

684
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Speaker 6: the other at thirty five percent from the floor. But

685
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Speaker 6: it is now Tennessee up fifty five thirty nine, So

686
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Speaker 6: things are going to be done here for the night.

687
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Speaker 6: Tennessee's gonna get a victory and face either Kentucky or

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Speaker 6: Illinois in Indy. In the Midwest Regional semis Perdue is

689
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Speaker 6: going to Indianapolis, not that far from campus after beating

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Speaker 6: twelve seed McNees today seventy six sixty two. And by

691
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Speaker 6: the way, Houston A one seed advances to face Purdue

692
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Speaker 6: LJ Crier thirty points. Is Houston Beacon Zaga tonight eighty

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Speaker 6: one seventy six, Texas Tech over Drake Saint John's two

694
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Speaker 6: seed beaten by Arkansas one seed overall, Auburn beat Creighton

695
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Speaker 6: eighty two to seventy. Michigan advances beating Texas A and

696
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Speaker 6: M ninety one seventy nine, and it was BYU or

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Speaker 6: three seed Wisconsin ninety one eighty nine. Even though the

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Speaker 6: Badger's done. John John Jay had thirty seven points n

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Speaker 6: tournament victories for Bradley and Chattanooga. In women's hoops, Yukon

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Speaker 6: one oh three thirty four over Arkansas State, and they're telling.

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Speaker 1: You can you can you tell your guys? Can you

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Speaker 1: tell your women to calhm down?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 1: There, Like I think they had thirteen points at the half. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was a halftime score to say, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to look it up. But the halftime score was abysmal.

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Speaker 1: I saw it on like a ticker on my phone,

708
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Speaker 1: and I was just like, this is embarrassing us.

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Speaker 6: He had a home game and their opponent had eleven

710
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Speaker 6: points in the first step. Let's take a look here.

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Speaker 6: That was a seventy one time school was the US.

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Speaker 3: See it was if I'm reading my.

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Speaker 1: Mask, like sixty nine thirteen or something.

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Speaker 3: Sixty six to sixteen is what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Dude, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: We're dominating. That's what we do with March one.

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Speaker 6: NBA note Lebron James is back, Lakers have Luka Dantic,

718
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Speaker 6: they have Austin Reeves back, and they're losing at home

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Speaker 6: at halftime to the Chicago Bulls sixty five six two,

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Speaker 6: even though Luca has twenty nine points in the first half.

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Speaker 1: Back to you got your Broughnny in there, man.

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Speaker 2: Oh, eighteen minutes from now. We got a lot to

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Speaker 2: say about bronni Erturus, Jason Martin tell you what jamrt

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Speaker 2: will come back. We'll put a bow on the Saturday

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Speaker 2: in college oops should mention it. By the way, speaking

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Speaker 2: as j mart said, we got a lot to discuss

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eron Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tireraq dot Com studios. As de Sega just told you.

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Speaker 2: One game left in college hoops for the day. Seven

744
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: tickets have been punched to the Sweet sixteen Tennessee. Looks

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Speaker 2: like it is about to be number eight. They are

746
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: up by seventeen points with four minutes to go. Over

747
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Speaker 2: you Cla mc cronin's screaming into the abyss right now.

748
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll complain about having to travel back to

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Speaker 2: the East Coast after the game. But Tennessee is four

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Speaker 2: minutes away from going to the sweet sixteen. By the way,

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Speaker 2: what would that be? Would that be? Three SEC teams

752
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Speaker 2: so far? Tennessee, Arkansas, and Auburn. Did I miss any

753
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Speaker 2: Who'd I miss?

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Speaker 1: A and M? Law No? Three? Is that? I think

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Speaker 1: because A and M lost to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know that it became a

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Speaker 2: huge talking point SEC getting fourteen teams in this tournament.

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Speaker 2: I'll just give my quick take. I'll toss it over

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Speaker 2: like there was a lot of, you know, debate about

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Speaker 2: fourteen teams from the SEC. It sounds like a lot

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Speaker 2: three have advanced. I believe about six or so have

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Speaker 2: been eliminated, obviously Kentucky Florida among the many that will

776
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Speaker 2: play tomorrow. Did you have any issue with that, Jmart

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Speaker 2: as far as how the bracket played itself.

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Speaker 1: Out, not necessarily other than I mean, I don't think

779
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Speaker 1: Texas probably should have been in, But I felt the

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Speaker 1: same way about North Carolina. They got in. But I mean,

781
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Speaker 1: you look at everything else, who are you gonna put

782
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Speaker 1: in that you felt like distinguished themselves to a degree

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Speaker 1: where you would have left out one of the lower

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Speaker 1: ranked teams in the SEC. I don't know that there

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Speaker 1: were that many. And then in this era of these

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Speaker 1: two big conferences, specifically, this is just what you're gonna get,

787
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Speaker 1: And if you add more teams to the field, you're

788
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Speaker 1: just gonna get even more of this. It's gonna benefit

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Speaker 1: them probably more often than anybody else. But I just

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Speaker 1: I just kind of shrugged my shoulders at it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that it ultimately means all that much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you because I saw a lot of

793
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Speaker 2: the pushback there. And the thing that I go back

794
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Speaker 2: to is, you know, out of conference games did happen,

795
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Speaker 2: and like that was the thing, like people were like, oh,

796
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Speaker 2: how do you get so many teams?

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Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know. Oklahoma was undefeated in

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Speaker 3: the out of conference.

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Speaker 2: I think Georgia was like twelve George beats Saint John's

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Speaker 2: in the out of conference I mean Arkansas a couple

801
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Speaker 2: of nights wins. So it was a weird deal where

802
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: I just it was hard for me to get fired up.

803
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: And you and I talked about this last week. We

804
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Speaker 2: had the bracketologist, Roco Miller on, and you know, the

805
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: net is kind of the primary tool that is used,

806
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Speaker 2: and the net does weigh heavily in favor of these

807
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: power conference teams. But again, it's like you said, is

808
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Speaker 2: who got left out that deserved to be in Ohio state,

809
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 2: you know, North Carolina guide and even tho they probably

810
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Speaker 2: shouldn't have. You could argue West Virginia, Okay, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Their governor certainly did.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you more so from the North

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Speaker 2: Carolina side of things. Did you find anything fishy about

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Speaker 2: their guy being the head of the committee and them

815
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Speaker 2: getting in or was that just a weird coincidence.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about fishy, but it's a bad look.

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Speaker 1: It's just you can't prove a negative. Like you can't

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Speaker 1: prove that anybody that wants to say there was a

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Speaker 1: problem there, you can't really blame them for it. But

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Speaker 1: you also can't prove that there was something going on.

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Speaker 1: It's just an unfortunate I guess coincidence. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I do even it. It's just a way that

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Speaker 1: it was, so I guess. I guess I would agree, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's more of a coincidence anything else, but it just

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Speaker 1: breeds conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't know that there's anything perfect

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Speaker 2: in terms of what you can do, but you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's time to get like ads and people like

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Speaker 2: you know, there's plenty of retired coaches. Excuse me, you

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Speaker 2: look at the college Football Playoff Committee, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: of coaches like Roy Williams doesn't seem to be doing

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Speaker 2: very much. I always see him at North Carolina games.

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Speaker 2: Tony Bennett's available coach k or whatever. So it was

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Speaker 2: an interesting week to say the least. North Carolina obviously

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Speaker 2: is out. Duke is the only ACC team left. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Tennessee about to be the third SEC team to get

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Speaker 2: to the Sweet sixteen as this one is just about

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Speaker 2: to go final. Fox Sports Radio aertors Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: come back, we will switch gears to the NBA. Ronnie

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Speaker 2: James had the best game of his career the other night,

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Speaker 2: but does it actually really matter? We'll discuss all that

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Speaker 3: Us two hours from now. Not one got my tom

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Speaker 2: Our one, by the way, shouldn't mention to say you're

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Speaker 2: just told you. But one game going on still in

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Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament, Tennessee with a thirteen point lead thirty

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Speaker 2: nine seconds.

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Speaker 3: To go, looks like they will advance.

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00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: They will join Arkansas and Auburn, three SEC teams in

864
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen.

865
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: Three more, by the way, can advance tomorrow.

866
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Alabama, Florida, and Kentucky will all play tomorrow, part of

867
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: eight games that tips off at twelve ten Eastern time

868
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 2: on Sunday, starting with Florida and the two time defending

869
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: champion Yukon Huskies. All right, j mart you know we

870
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: can talk college hoops all day, but we got to

871
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: get to we gotta get to the NBA. De Seger

872
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 2: just told you. Lakers in action on Saturday. Here they're

873
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: currently playing the Chicago Bulls at Crypto dot Com Arena.

874
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: It is in the third quarter as we speak. Lebron

875
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: James is back. But the story of the week with

876
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers, it was not Lebron. It was his son, Bronni,

877
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: who just finished what was undoubtedly the best game of

878
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: his NBA career. It was Thursday night against the Milwaukee

879
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: Bucks in Los Angeles. Bronni James. Now, admittedly there was

880
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: no Luca Johnson, there was no Luka Doncic on the floor,

881
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: there was no Lebron on the floor, so very banged

882
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: up Lakers team. This was on Thursday playing the Milwaukee Bucks.

883
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: Lakers lose by twenty nine points. But Bronnie James in

884
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: thirty minutes played has seventeen points, five assists on seven

885
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: of ten shooting, by far, the best game of his

886
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: NBA careers a Los Angeles Laker, Jamart, we have statues

887
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: of Shaq and Kobe and Wayne Gretzky outside of crypto

888
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: dot Comerine, is it time to start getting the Bronni

889
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: statue ready for outside of crypto.

890
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated by this. It irritated me as it

891
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: was happening, not because he had a great game or

892
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: a good game. He has seventeen points and it's something

893
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: you just want to be happy for him for. And

894
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: I was, so I was just like, man, good for him,

895
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: Like that's a that's a solid night for him. You know,

896
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: it was a night where you know, jokicch and Murray

897
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: didn't play, but they needed him and he was able

898
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: to come in and give him something. And that's a

899
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: good moment for him. That has to feel good. And

900
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: because obviously he's taken a lot of criticism and all

901
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: this other kind of stuff. But I knew it was

902
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: going to be short lived because I knew it couldn't

903
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: just be about one game. It was gonna be how

904
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: can we take this game and explode it into a narrative,

905
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened less than twenty four hours later.

906
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: And I'm just so disappointed by that because we can't

907
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: just look at one performance to say, man, that was

908
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: a great night. We have to turn it into something

909
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: it's not, and that that actually just ends up looking hypocritical,

910
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: looking like terrible analysis and looking like shill. You look

911
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: like a shill when you do something like that, or

912
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: you look like somebody that really wants to get on

913
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: somebody else's good side. And so he can't just have

914
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: a good game here, and we literally like as it happened.

915
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool Saturday, Aaron, and I

916
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: can just say, hey, you know what, Broddy had an

917
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Good performance for him. If he never

918
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: has another one, he's gonna have that moment at least,

919
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: good on him. But then I read I don't know

920
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: how long the article was. I read the most fawning

921
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: propaganda piece maybe I've ever read in sports earlier today

922
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: by a I guess a professional journalist who talked about

923
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: how if you talk to the Lakers, they'll tell you

924
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: that he's got the goods. They'll tell you that he's improving.

925
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, they're not going to say he stinks,

926
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: Like why are you including that in the article? Like

927
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: Lebron James is there? Who exactly with the Lakers Organization's

928
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like, look, I'm gonna be real and make

929
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: sure you attach my name to this. In the article,

930
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: Bronnie is straight up garbage. He is dogwater. Like, no

931
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: one's going to say that about him, And even if

932
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't Lebron's kid, they wouldn't say that. But all

933
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: this stuff about how hard he works and how he's

934
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: a great kid. Literally this article said, I mean This

935
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: is a guy that gets up at eight am every

936
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: mongret congratulations, I get up at six. Like what, I

937
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: don't It's not that there's anything wrong with getting up

938
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: at eight, but I don't know that that needs to

939
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: be included in some kind of He's very dedicated because

940
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: he gets up at eight am. Stuff Like he had

941
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: seventeen points. I wanted to be able to celebrate that

942
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: as what it was, a seventeen point night and isolated

943
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: night for now, like he may never do it again.

944
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: We have no idea. The best game of some people's

945
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: career turns out to be their first one and they're

946
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: nab never able to do it again. He actually now.

947
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: I will give him this. I saw this stat and

948
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: I feel like it bears mentioned before we continue down

949
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: this pathway. I want to give Bronnie James credit. He

950
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: has more career three pointers right now than a former

951
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: number one overall pick.

952
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: In the NBA draft, Michael lil Candy, Ben Simmons, Ben Simmons.

953
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons has five, Bronnie has six. Bed Simmons back

954
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: from the I thought his career. Listen, Bronnie is somehow

955
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: this is the thing again we're criticizing Bronnie when we're

956
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: just frustrated with the circumstances.

957
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: We're just angry that we can't enjoy it for what

958
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, Like, we can't even enjoy this because

959
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: we know it's gonna have to be something bigger when

960
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: it absolutely is not, and it looks and sounds phony

961
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: and foolish and ignorant to go the places that I've

962
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: seen people in our industry go in the last two days.

963
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: So a couple of things shout out Ben Simmons. My

964
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: guess is he's probably got more career threes than Michael

965
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: Luwacandy as well.

966
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: I would say that's probably true too.

967
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was not. I was not ready for

968
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: the Ben Simmons mic drop right there. But no, it

969
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: is that look.

970
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: Again, and we'll do the whole thing every time we're

971
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: criticizing Bronnie. It's not that we're rooting against him. It's

972
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: the circumstances in which he's here that we're again that

973
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: we're force fed that we're supposed to believe that this

974
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: is a thing.

975
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: All right, Listen.

976
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: I try not to call out other media members, but

977
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it, Like I just googled the

978
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: same thing you did. And the first thing that I see,

979
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins tells Steven A. Smith, you know that he's

980
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: got to take the l on on Brownie And here's

981
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: my thing, J Martin and I said this on Friday,

982
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: I was filling in for Doug Gottlie with Dan Byer.

983
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Have you ever heard

984
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: the name Matthew hurt before? Is that a name that

985
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: like rings a bell for you?

986
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: Does that? Does that do anything for you?

987
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I believe he is the I believe he's the

988
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: sales associate that my wife named down on the list

989
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: for a Highlander hybrid a couple of weeks ago at

990
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: the Toyota dealership.

991
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: He was the guy that promised your time share. You

992
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: just had to sit through a forty five.

993
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Right right right, tripped to Myrtle Beach.

994
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, in all seriousness, So, Matthew Hurts.

995
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: So last year, it was sometime in the spring. It

996
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: was probably right after the NCAA tournament, and we all know,

997
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 2: you know, end of the year, a lot of teams

998
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: are trying to just end the season. And I remember

999
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: being here in the Fox Sports, you know, the tyreck

1000
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: dot Com studios and I'm watching this Grizzlies game, and

1001
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies have literally people I've never remember. John got

1002
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: hurt early, the season was was a wash whatever, and

1003
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: they had guys on the court that I had literally

1004
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: never heard of. And I'm somebody who covers college basketball.

1005
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to think I know most of the guys

1006
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: in the NBA, even if I.

1007
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 3: Don't follow the NBA.

1008
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: And so I bring it up because when I saw

1009
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: Brownie hit seventeen, I go I swear I was watching

1010
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: a game where Matthew Hurt played really well last year

1011
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: for the Grizzlies at the end of the season.

1012
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: And I looked it up.

1013
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 2: Matthew Hurt, who you know was a form McDonald's American whatever,

1014
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: played in Duke, no impact at Duke whatever. He was

1015
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: playing on the Grizzlies last year last year, the twenty

1016
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty twenty four season, and had a game

1017
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: where he scored thirty points. Matthew Hurt is now playing

1018
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: for the Southeast Melbourne United of the NBL in Australia.

1019
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: A guy who scored thirty last year in an NBA

1020
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: game is now in Australia playing And so I only

1021
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: bring it up because guess what bad? G League guys

1022
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: get called up for injury riddle teams all the time.

1023
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: By the way, Matthew hurts a young guy. It's not

1024
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: like he's like a twenty eight year old journeyman. He's

1025
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: like twenty two years old. I bring it up.

1026
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: G League guys get called up all the time.

1027
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: Somebody has to put the ball in the basket when

1028
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: Luca and Lebron and basically nobody is playing. And so

1029
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: the fact that a G League guy had a decent

1030
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: game in a game that was a twenty nine point

1031
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: loss when your two superstars aren't playing. By the way,

1032
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: someone named Jordan Goodwin was starting in this game. Again,

1033
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: think I know a little bit about Kyle. Never heard

1034
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: of Jordan Goodwin until this season. We're you know, we're

1035
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: not talking about Game six of the Western Conference Finals.

1036
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: And so to me, listen, good for Bronni. He had

1037
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: an opportunity, he took advantage of that. That's not hating.

1038
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: Good for him.

1039
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: But to act like this has to be a thing

1040
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: because it's Bronni. When random dudes step up all the

1041
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: time in games where starters are out because of injuries,

1042
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: and that we have to make it a thing, and

1043
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: that we have to assume it matters. Like I'm sorry,

1044
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: it just doesn't matter. And by the way, maybe seventeen

1045
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: on Friday leads to twenty two next week and then

1046
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: twenty six to the week, and if that happens, if

1047
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: he consistently puts together these games, game after game after

1048
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: game after game after game, then okay, I'm happy to

1049
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: talk about it. But a random seventeen point game when

1050
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: Luca and Lebron we're not on the court. Like I said,

1051
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: G League dudes come up to the NBA and put

1052
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: up good games in losing efforts all the time. We

1053
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: don't have to make it a thing just because it

1054
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 2: is Lebron James's son.

1055
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: So I don't even have to call the guy out

1056
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: by name, because everybody's gonna know who I'm talking about here.

1057
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: When you get into an altercation in the media with

1058
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: a player, let's just suggest he's a pretty famous player

1059
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: and he has a son that's playing in the NBA,

1060
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: and it seems as if it's about your critique of

1061
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: his son. Maybe didn't deserve to be drafted, maybe he

1062
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: wasn't ready, maybe he was put in a bad situation

1063
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: by his father, even though his father's a really good

1064
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: guy and a really good dad and clearly wants the

1065
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: best for his son, and also that kind of stuff.

1066
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: You say all that, then you have the altercation, and

1067
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: you kind of stick by it the next time that

1068
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: you're asked about it. And then this son goes and

1069
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: has seventeen points. And then the next time that you're

1070
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: on TV, the headline coming off of your performance that

1071
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: day on TV, the headline on the website for the

1072
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: company that is now paying you, let's just suggest a

1073
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of money about this hypothetical individual. The comment underneath

1074
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: the picture says, I may have to admit I was

1075
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: wrong about Bronny, what are we doing here? Like everything

1076
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: that you said before, within a couple of weeks of

1077
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: being challenged face to face, being caught on camera that way,

1078
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: and then having to talk about it and all this

1079
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: other kind of stuff, within a couple of weeks, you're

1080
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: now suggesting that, you know what, maybe I was wrong

1081
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: because he had seventeen points in this very isolated situation.

1082
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: I just I was kind of baffled by it because

1083
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: this person, it seems like he would not have been

1084
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: the one to do that in this spot and When

1085
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: I saw it, I immediately screen grabbed it and sent it

1086
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: to you because I was just like, really, this is

1087
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: what we're doing. It's it's embarrassing, honestly, it's embarrassing to media,

1088
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing to the profession at all, to basketball, and

1089
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: it does nothing for Brownie at all. Like you can't

1090
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: even enjoy it because it gets blown out of proportion

1091
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: and it's that way into comments sections. I'm sure it's

1092
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: that way on social media. It's the same way. It's

1093
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: just like, guys, can we not overreact to it? Can

1094
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: it not just be a good day? And yet, as

1095
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: you said, if this thing became a trend, everybody's gonna

1096
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 1: start to talk about it. But he has one game

1097
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, it's like we were

1098
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: all wrong. Fifty other teams passed on a sure fire,

1099
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: like what why we understand what you're doing here when

1100
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: you do that, and we understand why you're doing it,

1101
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: and it's not as cool as you think it is,

1102
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: and it's also very easy to see through and the

1103
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: integrity word goes out the window, and that's the problem.

1104
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, and so like, let's

1105
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: be fair, because I am curious. And you know, I

1106
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: was talking yesterday about this is it's again it's hard.

1107
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: What do they say?

1108
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard to separate the art from the artists,

1109
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: like you can appreciate the art, but whatever. And it's

1110
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: still hard for me to separate how Brianni got into

1111
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: the league, the narratives that we were forced down our throat,

1112
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: versus what he is doing in the league. And so

1113
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: my question for you, because I don't want to root

1114
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: against him, I want this to feel like it's one

1115
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 2: hundred percent merit based. And I will admit I'm having

1116
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of trouble trying to figure out what

1117
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: he would actually have to do for me to be like, oh, no,

1118
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: he belongs. I don't know how many games. I don't

1119
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: know how many weeks. I don't know how many of this,

1120
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: I don't know how many that. How much longer does

1121
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: he have to consistently, maybe not do what he did,

1122
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: but prove that he is a serviceable role player, by

1123
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: the way, again, not when there's injuries, not when Lebron's

1124
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: you know, in a nice tub during the game, not

1125
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: when Lucas sitting there in street close How much longer

1126
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: does it have to go because again, I don't want

1127
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: to be a prisoner of the original take, which is

1128
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: that he didn't belong. But I also am not going

1129
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: to change the take because he had one good game

1130
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: in a blowout loss when all the starters weren't playing.

1131
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 3: Either.

1132
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is the problem. You're never going

1133
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: to be able to completely get the taste out of

1134
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: your mouth of how he got into the league. And

1135
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna doag him no matter what he does now.

1136
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to if he's able to stand on

1137
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: his own two feet down the road or whatever like that,

1138
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: and he does turn into whatever you just described, a

1139
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: serviceable role player, whatever it is, then I do think

1140
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: that we'll start to say, you know what, he didn't

1141
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: deserve to be here. But at the very least he's

1142
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: taken he's taking full advantage of this opportunity. He's not

1143
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: just resting on the fact that you know, his name

1144
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: got him here. He's actually doing the work. He's putting

1145
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: in the work, he's doing all the things that you

1146
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: would want him to do, and he's showing now that

1147
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: even if he didn't belong, then he's earning his keep now.

1148
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's about as good as

1149
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: it can get. And that's only if he really does

1150
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: get to a spot where I'm just not sure his

1151
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: talent is going to take him, Like, I just don't

1152
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: know that he's got that level of talent to where

1153
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: he's ever going to be able to do enough to

1154
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: justify being put into this role in the first place.

1155
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: And that's unfortunate for him because again to your point,

1156
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: not rooting against him in any way, there's not really

1157
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: a reason to do it. But also it's very hard

1158
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: to legitimate. It's very hard to feel any of what

1159
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: he's doing is legit because even though he's making the

1160
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: most of this opportunity, it's one he shouldn't have had.

1161
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: It's one that no one really believes he deserved in

1162
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: the moment, because well he didn't, and that there was

1163
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: one reason why he was able to kind of cut

1164
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: the line get the fast pass at the amusement park,

1165
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: and we know what that is. And so I don't

1166
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: know the answer that question, Aaron, I have no idea

1167
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: what he would have to do to really make that

1168
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: thing work. I don't know that there is a thing

1169
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: that he can do outside have just become really, really

1170
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: good and I just don't think he's that. I don't

1171
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: think he's got that. That's not his ceiling in my opinion.

1172
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: Well, and we'll wrap with this, is that if this

1173
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: was some sort of impactful game that completely changed the

1174
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: way the Lakers felt about him, you would think that

1175
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: maybe he'd be on the court tonight.

1176
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: We are talking right.

1177
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: Now in the middle of the third quarter, Lakers playing

1178
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: the Bulls at Crypto dot Com Arena, Bowls up by

1179
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: fifteen in the third quarter, Bronnie James zero minutes played

1180
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: so far, So if this was some moment that was

1181
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: launching the stardom of a role player, you'd think that

1182
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: maybe in a fifteen point deficit, they'd get him a

1183
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: little bit more run. So far again, with three minutes

1184
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: left in the third quarter, they have not done it.

1185
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Ready ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: We'll come back switch gears from Bronni to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Still a few.

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Speaker 2: Interesting moves in free agency that have come about in

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1216
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1217
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1218
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1219
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1222
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it over the news desk second

1223
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: time this evening. There's still stuff trending at twelve twenty

1224
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: eight Eastern time to say or what is trending?

1225
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

1226
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 6: The Lakers, for example, still losing it home to the

1227
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 6: Chicago And this is with Lebron James back in the

1228
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 6: lineup and with Luca Johnson scoring thirty four points in

1229
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 6: three quarters. Lebron at the line right now as they

1230
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 6: trail Chicago one oh nine to ninety five early in

1231
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. Everything else in the NBA's final wins

1232
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 6: for Milwaukee and New York, wins for Atlanta and Indiana,

1233
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 6: and Nikola jokicch of the Nuggets, will miss another game

1234
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 6: on Sunday with the bad ankle out for a fourth

1235
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 6: straight game. Everything final in men's college basketball, The second

1236
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 6: round continues tomorrow, but tonight the late game went to

1237
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 6: two seed Tennessee over UCLA, sixty seven to fifty eight.

1238
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 6: UCLA did have the best scoring defense of their conference

1239
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 6: this year. They held opponents to sixty five points a game.

1240
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 6: Tennessee only sixty seven in this one. But Tennessee plays

1241
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 6: defense as well, and they led their conference allowing just

1242
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 6: sixty three points a game and in fact held UCLA

1243
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 6: to fifty eight. For what it's worth, they held UCLA

1244
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 6: to the fewest points the Bruins had scored in any

1245
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 6: loss this season. UCLA season ends with eleven losses. Twenty

1246
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 6: three and eleven the record wins for Houston and Purdue,

1247
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 6: Texas Tech and Arkansas advanced ten seed. Arkansas eliminated Saint

1248
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 6: John seventy five to sixty six. Auburn and Michigan each one,

1249
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 6: and they'll be playing each other in the Sweet sixteen

1250
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 6: Friday at Atlanta. Michigan beat Texas A and m ninety

1251
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 6: one seventy nine. The number one overall seed Auburn defeated

1252
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 6: Creighton eighty two to seventy and three seed Wisconsin is

1253
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 6: out BYU held on tonight ninety one eighty nine, despite

1254
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 6: the Badger's john Tonjay scoring thirty seven points. The Cleveland

1255
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 6: Guardians gave pitcher Tanner Byby a five year extension plus

1256
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 6: a club option year. Cleveland acquired outfielder Nolan Jones from Colorado.

1257
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 6: Toronto has given catcher Alejandro Kirka five year extension. Among

1258
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 6: the fourteen NHL games, LA seven to two over Carolina,

1259
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 6: Nashville won five to two, beating Toronto, Dallas in overtime,

1260
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: defeated Philadelphia three to two, Vegas a six to three

1261
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 6: winner against Detroit, and in a game Edmonton holding on

1262
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 6: Layton regulation for to three against Seattle. Are reminder Nascars

1263
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 6: on FS one again the next four Sundays and IndyCars

1264
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 6: back on Fox TV tomorrow. All seventeen IndyCar races this

1265
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 6: season are on Fox TV, so that would include the

1266
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 6: Indy five hundred in late May and Everything's Final. Now.

1267
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 6: In women's college hoops, as they opened their national tournament

1268
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 6: this weekend, LSU won the late game one oh three

1269
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 6: forty eight over San Diego State, and one seed Texas

1270
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 6: won tonight one oh five sixty one against William and Mary.

1271
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 6: We mentioned the dominant wins for USC and Yukon, NC

1272
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 6: State won by twenty Oklahoma eighty one fifty eight. North

1273
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 6: Carolina won its game seventy to forty nine. There was

1274
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 6: also an Iowa win of ninety two to fifty seven today,

1275
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 6: and on and on and on, but two, specifically this

1276
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 6: USC home game, and they are a one seed, but

1277
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 6: really upset about being one of the lower one seeds.

1278
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: Somebody said that yesterday there were two ta I think

1279
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: it was South Carolina.

1280
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: USC complained about being one seeds.

1281
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 6: It's amazing, Okay, you know South Carolina. You know all

1282
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 6: your games are televised, right, yeah, we saw you down thirty.

1283
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: What was the complaint exactly? I'm not being sarcastic.

1284
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 6: I saw the heavy, scheduled, tough, and they won a

1285
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 6: lot of games, and so why should we even schedule

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Speaker 6: that way?

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01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 3: To be a one seed?

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01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: Well, but I know Yukon's in USC's bracket, which was controversial, right.

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Speaker 6: You got the great teams and USC stuck with Yukon.

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Speaker 6: In other words, I think that was really what they

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 6: were saying without saying it interesting. But South Carolina, they

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 6: were down thirty at UCLA. Is that recorded?

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01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: You know, that's a loser attitude and I'll just say,

1295
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: like I remember Dan Lanning being asked in the college

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01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: football playoff, you got the number one seed in New Drew,

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01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and Dan Lanning was like, we're gonna have

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: to play great teams at some point where they're gonna

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Speaker 2: win or what not. It's like, USC, You're you're gonna

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01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: have to play somebody good at some point something.

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Speaker 6: And that's somebody good is not UNC Greensboro.

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Speaker 1: No offense.

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01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 6: Because the final today for the women of Troy was

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 6: seventy one to twenty five way the losing side shot

1305
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 6: seven of fifty four from the floor, seven baskets and

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 6: twenty three turnovers.

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Speaker 3: Is Saga three.

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Speaker 1: There is no discrepancy like women's college basketball between like

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Speaker 1: the halves and half nats. And this isn't just this year.

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01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: It's been like this forever. And for me, I have

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Speaker 1: a really good team gets really bad when it's like.

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Speaker 6: I'll go a step further because you have top twenty

1313
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 6: five matchups for many years in women's basketball, that will

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Speaker 6: be twenty point blowouts that you generally don't see regular

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01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 6: season men's.

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Speaker 2: In our three, you should we should play a game

1317
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: two real scores in a fake.

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Speaker 3: Score and you just have for real. I know what

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01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 3: we know. All these teams won big, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know by how much I.

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Speaker 6: Can finish that game right now. Because let's not forget

1322
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 6: the Duke home game last night, because they topped what

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Speaker 6: USC did today. Duke's final was eighty six twenty five

1324
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 6: over Lehigh and the losing side there had nine baskets

1325
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 6: and thirty turnovers in eighty forty minute game.

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Speaker 2: And I thought Saint John's Arkansas, which had more fouls

1327
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: than made field goals for most of the game, was bad.

1328
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: That that's thirty turnovers. This is a lot to give

1329
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: to the other team. To Sega, is anything else before

1330
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: we will get back to college troops? Yes, I was

1331
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: gonna say, well, we get back to you in about

1332
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: ten minutes from now with our extended update to end

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: hour two.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much to Seger.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin, we

1336
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: are taking you up till two am Eastern, a little

1337
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: bit of a quiet week in the NFL. J mart

1338
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: there are some news and notes I want to get to.

1339
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: Let's start with the obvious. Aaron Rodgers does not have

1340
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: a team yet. What is your take? Do you care.

1341
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: No, But my daughter turned one yesterday, so that's a birthday.

1342
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: What's your name?

1343
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, her name is Ivy Beth.

1344
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Ivy Beth. Wow.

1345
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: Do you think Aaron Rodgers will have a team by

1346
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: the time Ivy Beth turns two?

1347
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: I honestly don't care.

1348
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's move out to some other news and

1349
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: notes from the week. Le ask you this in all seriousness.

1350
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: I found this is This story's you know, close to

1351
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: a week old at this point, but you and I

1352
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: haven't been on air since it happened. I found the

1353
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: discourse on the Jamar Chase and t Higgins extensions a

1354
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: little bit strange. So everybody knows by now, but Jamar

1355
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: Chase signs an extension four years, one hundred and sixty

1356
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: one million, highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. T

1357
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: Higgins four years, one hundred and fifteen million. I understand

1358
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: the defense was abysmal. I would also counter by saying

1359
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: two things. One, if you draft right, you can find

1360
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: talent on the defensive side of the football. You look

1361
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: at the Rams this year, Jared Vers, Brayden Fisk. I

1362
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: mean that's just one example. Yeah, But two, all I've

1363
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: heard for like two years. The Bengals are cheap. They're

1364
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: not going to be able to keep this insane offensive

1365
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: core together. It's like, well, they did what you asked for,

1366
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: and people are still complaining now saying you didn't save

1367
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: any money for the defensive side of the football. So

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm missing something. I'm not trying to pretend like

1369
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: I have all the answers, but I was surprised at

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01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: the discourse around the fact that not only did not

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: only excuse me, did Jamar Chase sign an extension, but

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Speaker 2: t Higgins signed a high contract extensions while a lot

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01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: of money.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm of two minds on this, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it from a perspective where I I'm

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01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: a little bit critical of it only. I mean, I

1377
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: understand you want those guys because they've been part of

1378
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: your success. But here's the thing. You haven't won a

1379
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl with them in house. All you're doing is

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: running it back like you you better do what you

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01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: suggested what the Rams did in the draft. The Bengals

1382
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: are gonna either need to do that or we are

1383
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna have a problem. You get rid of lou Ana Roumo,

1384
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: who gets hired like five seconds afterwards, because I don't

1385
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: think he was your problem as your defensive coordinator. But

1386
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: here you are paying the guys that were already there.

1387
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: You scoring points wasn't your problem last year. Those guys

1388
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: were in house and they were doing work for you.

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Speaker 1: Last year. The problem was you couldn't stop anybody on

1390
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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. It's not like they're

1391
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,479
Speaker 1: all of a sudden going to be more prolific because

1392
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: they were already superb last season. So you are going

1393
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: to have to do something on the defensive side of

1394
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: the ball because you're committing money to where it's already been.

1395
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: Those guys are already there, they've already given you their max.

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Speaker 1: With Burrow as the quarterback and those guys, it's a great,

1397
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: well oiled machine offensively, but that's not your problem. Your

1398
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: offense was good enough to get you to a super Bowl,

1399
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Speaker 1: if not win one, perhaps, but your defense wasn't good

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Speaker 1: enough to even get you into the playoffs. So what

1401
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: you did is you paid what you already had, but

1402
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: you've still got the same problem that you had beforehand.

1403
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: So that would be my real takeaway on it. Even

1404
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: though I understand what you're saying, and I think your

1405
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: point about the rams and being able to find guys

1406
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: in the draft is well taken, but they'd better get

1407
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Speaker 1: that job done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know that it's like the strongest

1409
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: take I've ever had. I just I think, you know,

1410
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: especially it's I think what it is, more so than anything,

1411
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: is really two things. Is one we've been told for years.

1412
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: And by the way, I think it's accurate that the

1413
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 2: organization is pretty cheap. They don't have money like other teams.

1414
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 2: Do you know, it's a family owned business. They've never

1415
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: spent you know t J. Huschmanzada who's done some stuff

1416
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: here as well as FS one. I believe like the

1417
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: story that he tells is like as recently as when

1418
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: he played like eight or nine years ago. They didn't

1419
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: even have an indoor practice facility, so five feet of

1420
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: snow they be practicing outside.

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01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: And so to me, I.

1422
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: Understand, you know, you do you do have to prioritize

1423
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 2: other spots, and you haven't won with this core and whatever.

1424
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: I guess My point is just I've heard for years

1425
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,839
Speaker 2: that they're not even gonna be willing to spend the money.

1426
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: They do spend the money, they keep that core and

1427
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: by the way, they're not gonna spend the money. T

1428
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: Higgins is gonna walk and you're gonna let a very

1429
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: skilled guy go. So I guess that's my only thing

1430
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: is And again it's not that they don't have holes

1431
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: on the roster that have to be addressed. And to

1432
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: your point and to my point as well, it's like

1433
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 2: they do have to actually nail draft picks or it's

1434
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 2: just gonna be you know, fun team, bad stats all that.

1435
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, We'll stay on the uh,

1436
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: We'll stay on the Cincinnati Bengals because obviously Joe Burrow

1437
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: was incredible. And one couple things is, first of all,

1438
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: I understand that you know they started zero and three,

1439
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: they started three and five. Let's see, they started three

1440
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: and seven, three and six overall, three and six, so.

1441
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 3: They got to start better. Do you think though.

1442
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 2: The other thing that's been a factor it feels like

1443
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is always coming into the season, you know,

1444
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: not healthy at a pendicitis that one year, I don't

1445
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: even remember what happened in the preseason. This year they

1446
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: went five straight to put themselves back in position late

1447
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: in the season. But I also think part of this

1448
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: too is like, yes, the defense wasn't good enough, and

1449
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: yes they were limited, but this is also a team

1450
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: that did win five straight to end the regular season.

1451
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: That was the proverbial team that nobody would have wanted

1452
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 2: to see. I just feel like, you know, so, if

1453
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: they could just get off to some better starts, then

1454
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're in the playoffs.

1455
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: It's a little bit I don't know. I don't even

1456
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: know where I'm trying to go with this.

1457
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: I just I don't think they're as far off as

1458
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: they're may be perceived, considering the defense and considering the

1459
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 2: fact that they did not make the playoffs this year.

1460
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, the offense is elite and Burrow

1461
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: is as good as you want to be. But you've

1462
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: got to stop people, and you did a very very

1463
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: poor job of that this year. As a matter of fact,

1464
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: the defense seems to just get worse every single year.

1465
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: And it's not I don't again, I don't think it's

1466
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: on lou Anarumo. We'll see, you know, he's going to

1467
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: be into his new home and we'll see how they

1468
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: do this year. But they just didn't have the talent,

1469
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have the personnel. They were aging in bad spots.

1470
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: Hendrickson was pretty good, but they even were looking at

1471
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: trying to maybe even move him if the deal came around.

1472
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: This is a scenario for me, like, if you believe

1473
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: the way that you believe, then you need to set

1474
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: a rookie contract somewhere else. You need to set a

1475
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: rookie contract deal where you get somebody that is star

1476
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: level talent for a rookie deal. And look, I don't know,

1477
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't think this is even doable, but it was

1478
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: me and I'm the Bengals, I'm like, hmm, what's going

1479
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: to take to get up and get Like I would

1480
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: give up assets to go get Abdul Carter for example,

1481
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: if I were them, because this is the opportunity, like

1482
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: give up a little bit of the future to go

1483
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: do that, or go get Travis Hunter because you know,

1484
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: New England is craving that. Like that's what New England wants,

1485
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: I think is to draft Travis Hunter and think that

1486
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: he is still going to be there because of the

1487
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: way the quarterbacks will go with Chador probably I still

1488
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: think Shador is probably gonna go third, but cam Moore

1489
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: going number one overall. Like if I'm the Bengals, I'm

1490
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: at least inquiring. I'm making somebody tell me no to

1491
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: go up there and get a game changing player like

1492
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: an Abdul Carter that can anchor my defense for the

1493
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: next decade and is going to be set on a

1494
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: rookie scale, because my quarterback certainly isn't nor are his

1495
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: top targets.

1496
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 3: Be very interesting to see.

1497
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: Obviously, the Bengals coming off as I said that nine

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Speaker 2: and eight season, they won five straight to end the

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Speaker 2: regular season, but of course wasn't enough to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin will come

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Speaker 2: back to Sager with his extended update. That's all next

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aeron

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Speaker 3: It's not waste any more time.

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Speaker 2: Throw it right to the news desk to saga with

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Speaker 2: our extended update.

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Speaker 3: The floor is yours, my friend.

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Speaker 6: A lot of college hoops to get to. But I

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01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 6: just have to say out loud that the Lakers are

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 6: losing it home to the Bulls one forty two to

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 6: one ten. Well what one forty two to one ten

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 6: and still two minutes left in this game?

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01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: Won in the game sixty five to sixty two.

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 6: With that half, I mean trailing, but yes, one two

1522
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 6: for crowd out loud and lebron James did return from

1523
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,480
Speaker 6: two weeks off due to strang groin, seventeen points for him,

1524
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 6: but a minus twenty seven on the court. Bronni James

1525
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 6: was a minus thirty six on the court last game.

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01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 3: Just for the record, well, and really quick.

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01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: If Bronni was this impact role player that people try

1528
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: to make him out to be after a twenty nine

1529
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: point loss to the Milwaukee Bucks, you think he'd be

1530
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 2: getting a little bit more playing time tonight.

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01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 6: No, it's just five garbage minutes at the end. And

1532
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 6: by the way, this is with Luka Donsig back and healthy,

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 6: and Austin Reeves back and healthy, and I mentioned Lebron

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 6: and Rui Hachimura healthy and coming off the bench.

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 6: Talk about laying an egg at the former Staples Center tonight, Well,

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01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 6: you guys reference this early in tonight's show. The first

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01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 6: round of the NCAA Men's Tournament didn't exactly give us

1539
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 6: a lot to cheer for, and in fact these are

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 6: the numbers. Thursday and Friday combined, only four games were

1541
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 6: sided by five points or less. That ties for the

1542
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 6: fewest such close games since the tournament expanded in nineteen

1543
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 6: eighty five. Meanwhile, in the first round, we had ten

1544
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,839
Speaker 6: games decided by twenty five points or more, the most

1545
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 6: since expansion in the mid eighties. Congrats to the Michigan

1546
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 6: Wolverines who are still alive. It was one year ago

1547
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 6: they hired Dusty May as head coach. He'd made his

1548
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 6: name at Florida Atlantic, a Michigan program that a year

1549
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 6: ago had started that season six and five and then

1550
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 6: won only two games the rest of the year. Michigan

1551
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 6: one year ago finished eight and twenty four and right

1552
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 6: now is in the Sweet sixteen. Statsing says no other

1553
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 6: college basketball team has lost that many games one season

1554
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 6: and then made the Sweet sixteen. The very next season,

1555
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 6: since the Sweet sixteen officially began in nineteen seventy five,

1556
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 6: which took me on a tangent. How is it that

1557
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 6: to Sweet sixteen only was invented in nineteen seventy five?

1558
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 6: They had regional semis before. Then turns out that the

1559
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 6: year before they had twenty five schools in the national tournament.

1560
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 6: Nineteen seventy five, they got up to thirty two schools

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01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 6: and called it a Sweet sixteen. But if you were

1562
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 6: up through nineteen seventy four, for example, the really good teams,

1563
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 6: you didn't play a George Mason or a Grand Canyon

1564
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 6: no offense in the early rounds. If you were really good,

1565
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 6: you started with your Sweet sixteen game. So Michigan that year,

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01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 6: for example, started with a game against Notre Dame UCLA

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01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy four started with a triple overtime game

1568
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 6: in the Sweet sixteen, where Bill Walton start in the advance.

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01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 6: Keep in mind, the second round of this year's NCAA

1570
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 6: Men's Tournament ends tomorrow and the late game will be

1571
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 6: in Seattle, and it's a Pac twelve matchup, or would

1572
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 6: have been Arizona against Oregon's The late game at nine

1573
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 6: forty five Eastern. Tomorrow night, we're going to have a

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01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 6: similar schedule to what we had today, where we'll have

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01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 6: a couple of essentially standalone games and then the rest

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 6: start Tomorrow night at five point fifteen Eastern, but the

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 6: two standalones are about noon Eastern. It's one seed Florida

1578
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 6: against UK after that. Also in Raleigh, one seed Duke

1579
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 6: against Baylor. Course, the Duke campus very very close to Raleigh,

1580
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 6: North Carolina. And how about Purdue getting to play close

1581
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 6: to home. In the Sweet sixteen. Perdue was a winner

1582
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 6: over McNeese to start today, seventy six sixty two. Purdue

1583
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 6: led by twenty two before halftime. Trey Kaufman ran twenty

1584
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 6: two points fifteen rebounds. This is a Purdue team that

1585
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 6: in the final month of the season went three and six,

1586
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 6: but they're on too the Sweet sixteen, and it's Purdue

1587
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 6: against Houston in Indianapolis, about an hour from the Purdue campus.

1588
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 6: This is a four seed getting an advantage the way

1589
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 6: the bracket went. Purdue coach Matt Painter, by the way,

1590
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 6: in his sixteen career NCAA tournaments, has made the Sweet sixteen,

1591
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 6: now eight times. Mcnee's coach will Wade could be headed

1592
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 6: to NC State now. Reportedly, according to AP, it's going

1593
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 6: to be a six year contract. But the boiler Makers,

1594
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 6: who were up twenty seven to eleven after the first

1595
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 6: twelve minutes today the last Southland Conference team to be

1596
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 6: in a Sweet sixteen. Still you'd have to go back

1597
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 6: to eighty five. The late game went to two seed

1598
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 6: Tennessee over UCLA sixty seven to fifty eight. I mentioned

1599
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 6: it's Purdue against Houston next week. Houston's a one seed

1600
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 6: and eliminated Againstzaga tonight eighty one seventy six. Gonzaga correct

1601
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 6: pronunciation saw L J. Cryer with thirty points. The Big

1602
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 6: Twelve Conference teams are nine and one so far in

1603
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 6: this tournament. Saint John's is out. Arkansas beat him seventy

1604
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 6: five sixty six. Coach John Calipari into the Sweet sixteen

1605
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 6: for the sixteenth time with four different schools. An Arkansas

1606
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 6: team that started conference season zero to five. Saint John's

1607
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 6: in the last three minutes shot one for nine from

1608
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 6: the floor. Overall shot twenty eight percent. The two teams

1609
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 6: from three point range today four for forty one combined.

1610
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 6: Arkansas led by two with three minutes to go and yes,

1611
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 6: r J. Lewis, who averaged nineteen points a game. Conference

1612
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 6: Player of the Year for Saint John's, who had twenty

1613
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 6: nine points in the Big East Final, three of seventeen

1614
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 6: shooting in this game, and Scott one of ten from

1615
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,879
Speaker 6: the floor. The Texas Tech win was against Drake seventy

1616
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 6: seven sixty four into the Sweet sixteen Texas Tech against

1617
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 6: Arkansas Thursday in San Francisco, after the Red Raiders outscored

1618
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 6: Drake inside fifty to twenty a mismatch there at Texas Tech,

1619
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 6: Senior guard Chance McMillan averages fourteen points a game, was

1620
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 6: out again due to injury.

1621
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disager. You mentioned all the

1622
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 2: great college basketball.

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01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do.

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna come back and talk more college basketball. We'll

1625
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 3: talk Arkansas, Saint John's.

1626
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of Sunday's games, a loaded eight

1627
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 2: games slate on Sunday. And oh, by the way, Disager

1628
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 2: matched it not very many upsets over the course of

1629
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: the last couple days. Why is that? I think we

1630
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: know the answer. We're gonna explain it all next. Aer

1631
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 2: Tors Jason Martin taking you till two am. Eastern Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome man, everybody,

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Speaker 2: our three tours and Martin, Fox Sports Radio. Yes, it

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Speaker 2: is our three. I said last hour was our three.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin taking the up till two am Eastern time.

1641
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Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Frado Show follows us.

1642
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 3: That's right, right, Bernie, Okay, cool.

1643
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: I know Bernie has given up Fridays to spend more

1644
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: time with his family. Love Bernie, respect the hell out

1645
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: of him for that. I wanted to make sure that

1646
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: I didn't mix up his days. I know Plank is

1647
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 2: in one day, Bernie's in the other. So Bernie will

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01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: be following us, and as always, cannot wait to hear

1649
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: what he has to say. Jmar Busy Saturday at College Hoops,

1650
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: we'll start previewing the Sunday slate.

1651
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 3: You know, let me ask you this.

1652
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you your choice here, Jamaart,

1653
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: we talked a lot of cal and Patino to open

1654
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: the show. Prefer to talk a little bit about that game.

1655
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: We also have some thoughts on why there have been

1656
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: so few big upsets. It's up to you. What is

1657
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 2: j mart feeling we can do on one now, one later?

1658
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: Does it matter to you? Should we reset the biggest

1659
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: stories of the day.

1660
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I kind of like the I

1661
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: like the story about Thursday and Friday and what didn't

1662
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: happen and really diving into why. But let's cover what

1663
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: happened today and then we can get to that maybe

1664
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: in the extended segment.

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01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably the right move for people.

1666
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: By the way, who missed any of our one or

1667
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: hour two, you can always download the podcast. But where

1668
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: we led was with what was the biggest story of

1669
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 2: the day. Not a lot of upsets, obviously in the

1670
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: first two rounds. I don't know if you can call

1671
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: a ten beating a seven in round one and upset,

1672
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: but that was certainly one. As the Arkansas Razorbacks beat

1673
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 2: the Kansas Jayhawks on Thursday, it's set up obviously just

1674
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 2: a super high profile game on Saturday afternoon in Providence,

1675
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 2: Rick Patino, two seed with the Saint John's Red Storm,

1676
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: Big East Regular season champs, Big East Tournament Champs.

1677
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 3: They came in as a pretty comfortable favorite.

1678
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 2: Arkansas, of course, with John Caliperi, you know, a guy

1679
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: that kind of had been you know, not literally, but

1680
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 2: figured figuratively, had been left for dead last year in

1681
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 2: his final game at Kentucky loses to a fourteen seed

1682
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: as a three seed to Oakland in twenty twenty two,

1683
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: lost to a fifteen seed when he had the second

1684
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 2: seeded Kentucky Wildcats. Well, yeah, if you thought Cal was done,

1685
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: if you thought he was dead, think again. As he

1686
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: said on the court after the game, they threw us

1687
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: in the coffin. They just forgot the nails. Arkansaw wins.

1688
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 2: They beat the second seeded Saint John's Red Storm. The

1689
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: Arkansas Razorbacks are headed to the Sweet sixteen as a

1690
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: ten seed. Seventy five sixty six. John Caliperry, who could

1691
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: do no right, Rick Patino, who threw out the season

1692
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 2: and could do no wrong. Cal gets the last laugh.

1693
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: Razorbacks to San Francisco next weekend.

1694
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the hard fought game. The one thing

1695
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 1: we didn't talk as much about, and I wish we

1696
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: had talked well less about it even than we did

1697
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: in the first hour, is, Man, if you're gonna have

1698
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: teams that play that physically, oh that's their mo why

1699
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: are you calling the game so tightly, like especially inconsistently so,

1700
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: because it's like they let some stuff go a little

1701
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 1: bit in the first half, and then the second half

1702
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: they called I mean, it was way too tight. They

1703
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: called stuff that wasn't even fouls. But even then, like

1704
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: they did not let them play at all, when it

1705
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: was clear that both teams wanted that, the fans wanted that,

1706
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: the coaches wanted that that was their style, and the

1707
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: rest decided to make it about them. At one point

1708
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: I saw stat there were forty three made field goals

1709
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: and thirty nine fowls well like thirty six minutes into

1710
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: the game. That is absolutely embarrassing.

1711
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 3: Let's do some quick math here.

1712
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: Twenty seven made field goals for Arkansas, twenty four fouls,

1713
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: twenty one made field goals for Saint John's twenty fouls

1714
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,839
Speaker 2: a total of so that would be forty eight made

1715
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: free forty eight made field goals, forty four fouls. Oh,

1716
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: by the way, a combined forty eight free throw attempts

1717
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: as well. I hate to say it was a story

1718
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: of the game. And the one thing I will say

1719
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: and Rick Patino, we talked about some of his negative

1720
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: comments neither you and I neither you nor I loved,

1721
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: but he did say and I think anybody who watched

1722
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 2: the game agrees the better team did win. And I

1723
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: guess if there's any sort of saving grace about how

1724
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 2: much the refs hijacked that game, it's that it was

1725
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: equally terrible on both ends. Kadar, you know, for for

1726
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: Kentucky or for Kentucky. There you go talk about Cali

1727
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,879
Speaker 2: Perry for Arkansas. With Cali Perry, you know, Zvona vere Visitch,

1728
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: a backup forward, filed out five personal fouls and ten minutes.

1729
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: Jonas Adu Arkansas is probably their best low post player,

1730
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: had four fouls and what was crazy was had two

1731
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: basically sat probably the back half of the first half.

1732
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: Comes in immediately, picks up a third, comes out, picks

1733
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: up a fourth, and basically sat for virtually all of

1734
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: the first probably twelve minutes of the second half.

1735
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 3: Oh by the way.

1736
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,440
Speaker 2: It was equally as bad for Saint John's Kadari Richmond,

1737
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: a star guard who was really one of the X

1738
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: factors on their team this year. I mean he was

1739
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: you know r J. Lewis one Big East Player of

1740
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 2: the year. Zub edge of four was awesome. Kanari Richmond

1741
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 2: averaged thirteen points, six rebounds, five assists per game, so

1742
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 2: you can you can think about the impact that not

1743
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,480
Speaker 2: having him would have. He foles out five total fouls

1744
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: in a grand total of sixteen minutes of play. So

1745
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 2: if there's any saving grace, and there isn't in a

1746
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: game like that, is that It was called equally awful

1747
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 2: both ways, and even Rick Patino said after the game,

1748
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 2: to his credit, the right team won independent of how

1749
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: poorly it was called.

1750
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you just got to be better than that.

1751
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: If you're an official, like if you are watching that

1752
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: and you're in charge of the officials for the tournament,

1753
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: like that robbed, I mean, that game deserved better, Like

1754
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: they deserve to be able to be as physical as

1755
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: they wanted to be and let that thing be the

1756
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: war that it was trending to be in the first

1757
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: half because the play that fouled Richmond out for Saint

1758
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: John's late or maybe what five six minutes left in

1759
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: the game, wasn't even a foul. I mean he went

1760
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: straight up and the foul was called anyway, And it's

1761
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 1: just why am I hearing a whistle every single time

1762
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: down the floor? It made the thing almost unwatchable because

1763
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: it turned into a free throw contest between two teams

1764
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: that can't shoot free throw, so you're just watching a

1765
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: bunch of bricks from the free throw line. It was

1766
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: that game, and you sent a message because we were

1767
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: talking about the Thursday Friday stuff and you said, hey,

1768
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: you were looking for a good one. This is a war.

1769
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 1: It was until the refs took it out of their hands,

1770
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: and that was just unfortunate because that thing would have

1771
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: continued to be a war. It would have been an

1772
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: absolute battle. And they left it all on the floor.

1773
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: Both teams left it all on the floor, but the

1774
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: refs just got way too involved for my taste.

1775
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I sent you this tweet. Matt and Orlander is

1776
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: a reporter for CBS Sports. Great at what he does,

1777
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: so this is not a criticism, but he is not

1778
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: one to do, really frankly, to do anything other than

1779
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 2: celebrate college basketball. And I bring it up because during

1780
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 2: the game he was at the game in Providence, he tweeted, quote,

1781
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: it's Rick Patino versus John Caliperry, It's Saint John's versus Arkansas.

1782
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: With the sweet sixteen to the line, the officiating in

1783
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: the foul calls can't be the story, and it's getting

1784
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: very close to being the story. And frankly that was

1785
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 2: probably with seven eight minutes left in the game, and

1786
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: so it did become a story. I don't think it

1787
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: became the I think Arkansas was the deserving team. I

1788
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: think Arkansas wins. What do you make of John Caliperry man,

1789
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Like I said, last three NCAA tournament, So basically for

1790
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 2: people who don't follow this stuff regularly, the last time

1791
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: cal made it to the second weekend was twenty nineteen.

1792
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty, there was no tournament. Like every year, he

1793
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 2: certainly had a team good enough. Twenty twenty one weird

1794
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: bubble year, misses the tournament, twenty twenty two loses to

1795
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 2: a fifteen seed, twenty twenty three makes it to the

1796
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: second round where he loses. Twenty twenty four, last year

1797
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: loses to Oakland, a fourteen seed. He's going back to

1798
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: the sweet sixteen. I think the Sega shared the stat

1799
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: incredible stat sixteenth trip to the second weekend of the

1800
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. And for a guy that it feels like

1801
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people had given up on, he's washed up,

1802
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: he's over the hill.

1803
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 3: He's stealing money from Arkansas.

1804
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 2: When the team started zero five and sec play, they

1805
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: are going to be one of the last sixteen teams standing.

1806
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 3: When we advanced the next weekend.

1807
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my takes still the same as it wasn't

1808
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,799
Speaker 1: the first hour. This is a guy that just feels

1809
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: like he has a new lease on life because the

1810
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: pressure is just different what he dealt with in Lexington.

1811
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: That pressure cooker just doesn't exist anywhere near the same way.

1812
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: At Arkansas. He's given a little bit of room, He's

1813
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: given a little bit of leeway. Zero to five isn't

1814
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: a death knell, Like, let's give him a chance. We

1815
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: know he's capable. He takes everybody he coaches to the

1816
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. He wins championships. You know, he won at Kentucky.

1817
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: He almost won a UMass. He came within a couple

1818
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: of free throws of winning in Memphis. This is a

1819
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: guy that knows exactly what he's doing, and he's ours,

1820
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: So let's let him coach. Let's give him some time.

1821
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: And what he has done is taking your team to

1822
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: the sweet sixteen. And he just looks He's still just

1823
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: as competitive, he's still just as fire. He's still yelling

1824
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: at officials and everything else, which he's done since he

1825
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: was probably in diapers. That's just kind of the way

1826
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: he is. But nothing has changed from that regard. But

1827
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: that's what he loves to do. He loves to compete.

1828
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: He loves to coach. That's what he said, because we

1829
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 1: know he didn't need money. The reason he's stuck around

1830
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: is because he likes coaching basketball. So now he gets

1831
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: to do that without a lot of the extracurricular stuff

1832
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: that I think would had just worn out its welcome

1833
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: on him. I think from a psychological standpoint, he was

1834
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 1: I ways say he was depressed. I just think he

1835
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: was unhappy.

1836
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. I want to say

1837
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 2: he looked. He kind of looks younger, maybe not younger, younger,

1838
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 2: but he looks like he's lost a little bit of weight.

1839
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: He looks healthier, is maybe the right word. I don't

1840
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 2: know if you've noticed that as well.

1841
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think there's something to that. I mean,

1842
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, you hear that adage about, you know, the

1843
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: president of the United States and how they age. Yeah,

1844
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: you know how Barak looked before he got into office

1845
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: compared to what happened eight years later, and even Trump

1846
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: four years in, and obviously what happened to Joe, And like,

1847
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,959
Speaker 1: there's something to it. The pressure that he was facing

1848
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 1: couldn't have been good for his overall health, couldn't have

1849
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: been good for his mental health, but it also probably

1850
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: wasn't good for his sleep patterns, his physical health. All

1851
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: that stuff wears on you. And you know, he goes

1852
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: down to Arkansas and he's able to go coach, and

1853
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: he's able to coach a little bit more under the

1854
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: radar as much as a John Calipari could be underneath

1855
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: the radar. He's there doing that, and you're right, like,

1856
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: just in the way that he talked after this game

1857
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: on the floor, there was just a sense of it

1858
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: just it was like it's not the fountain of youth.

1859
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: It was just like he got a real jolt, like

1860
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: he grabbed a red bull or something. He was able

1861
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: to turn back the clock a little bit. Show up

1862
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: at the high school reunion looking a little bit better

1863
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: than people remembered, like he just he the just there

1864
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit more of a spring in his step.

1865
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: He didn't seem quite as forlorn went and sweating quite

1866
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: as much. It just I agree with you. I don't

1867
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: know exactly how to describe it, but he just looked

1868
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: different in a positive way.

1869
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 3: Really quickly.

1870
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 2: On Patino, we don't have to play the sound. But

1871
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: thought first of all, last four or five minutes of

1872
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 2: the game that the big East play of the year

1873
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 2: is on the bench now. His argument, and he said

1874
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 2: it in the post game, was r J. Lewis is

1875
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: the player's name r J. Lewis in this game was

1876
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 2: I believe two of seventeen for some reason, the box

1877
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: fers three of seventeen in thirty minutes played. And Patino's kind.

1878
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 3: Of quote was, was you know, you know why he

1879
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 3: didn't play three of seventeen. Next question avoids the conversation,

1880
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 3: but the Big East player of the year is on

1881
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 3: the bench, in the play, in the plays that matter

1882
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 3: the most. I also thought it's a little nerdy.

1883
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Basketball, you know X's and O stuff, but Arkansas front

1884
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: line had nothing but follow trouble all game long. Zoobi

1885
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 2: edge of four for Saint John's, who was their best

1886
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: player twenty three points, twelve rebounds.

1887
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 3: Really didn't get the ball a lot late.

1888
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: I just thought, for a Hall of Fame coach, you know,

1889
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 2: everybody has bad days on the job.

1890
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 3: I just thought it was a really bad day.

1891
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: For Rick Patina, very very weird day, very bad day,

1892
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: very peculiar day in just kind of how it played out.

1893
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you left Lewis on the bench for the

1894
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: last five game minutes of a game that was very

1895
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 1: tight and a game that could have gone either way.

1896
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't care if he was three for seventeen, if

1897
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: he makes a couple down the stretch, you still win

1898
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: the game. And even if you want to take him out,

1899
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: just say, man, he's feeling himself a little bit too

1900
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: much in the wrong direction, Like he's just he's kind

1901
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: of in his he's kind of in his own head.

1902
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: Let me sit him down until the under four time out.

1903
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: Let me sit him down for one minute or so.

1904
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Then we'll get the under four. Then we'll get him

1905
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 1: back out there and we'll get him going. Not to

1906
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: put him back in at all, and to lose the game,

1907
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: and even in the last couple of minutes, not to

1908
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: put him back in when you know that you needed

1909
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: him in those moments. I just I can't really explain it,

1910
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: and him pointing to the score sheet and saying, well,

1911
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean you look, he wasn't able to score, so

1912
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I took him out of the game. That's like something

1913
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: a petulant child does. That's like taking your ball and

1914
01:33:56,240 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: going home. I don't understand what the thought process was.

1915
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 1: It's almost like he went on tilt I think for

1916
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: something like that in a poker game and just completely

1917
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: lost his cool. I agree, and lost his savvy and

1918
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Speaker 1: lost his competitive spirit and just kind of was like,

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Speaker 1: screw this man, I want to go home. And that

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Speaker 1: was unfortunate. It really was.

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Speaker 3: Saint John's a thirty percent three point shooting team.

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Speaker 1: R J.

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Speaker 2: Lewis of the players who play the second best three

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Speaker 2: point shoot at about thirty four and a half percent.

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Speaker 2: Not a great percentage, but when you need buckets, and oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, your third leading scorer, Kadari Richmond, had

1927
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Speaker 2: already filed out, so it wasn't as though you had

1928
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Speaker 2: a ton of great options to begin with very strange

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Speaker 2: from Rick Patino. Again, hall of famer, did incredible things

1930
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Speaker 2: at Saint John's at a place that I think most

1931
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Speaker 2: of us thought incredible things could no longer be done,

1932
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Speaker 2: but was not his best day. I think the analogy

1933
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Speaker 2: that you use going on tilt, I think it's totally fair.

1934
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Speaker 2: I think John Calipari has him on tilt. As John

1935
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Speaker 2: Caliperi and Arkansas headed to the Sweet sixteen, they will

1936
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Speaker 2: play Texas Tech on Thursday night.

1937
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Speaker 3: Tell you what, jmart do you want to come back?

1938
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Speaker 2: Do you want to put a bow on the first

1939
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Speaker 2: three days of the NCAA tournament and maybe the story

1940
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Speaker 2: of the tournament bigger picture. There've basically been no upsets.

1941
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Speaker 2: All the one seeds have won all. The two seeds

1942
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Speaker 2: coming into today had one, same with the three, same

1943
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Speaker 2: with the fours. And I think there's a very simple

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Speaker 2: explanation as to why that's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Aertorris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire rec dot

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1950
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1951
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1952
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1955
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Speaker 3: So J mart I thought Saturday of.

1956
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Speaker 2: The NCAA tournament was phenomenal, not just Arkansas Saint John's,

1957
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Speaker 2: but you know Houston.

1958
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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.

1959
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Speaker 3: I'm still not sure what happened in the Houston game.

1960
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Speaker 2: They were just up and then they it was a

1961
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Speaker 2: two point game, and then they win eighty.

1962
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Speaker 3: One seventy six.

1963
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Speaker 2: The number one seed in the Midwest advances to Indianapolis

1964
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Speaker 2: next week. BYU was another one. They were up double

1965
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Speaker 2: digits seemingly the whole game. All of a sudden it

1966
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Speaker 2: wiscons it as the ball with ten seconds left in

1967
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Speaker 2: a chance to tie or win the game. But I

1968
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Speaker 2: bring it up because while Saturday was awesome, I do

1969
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Speaker 2: think that uh, Thursday and Friday left a little bit

1970
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Speaker 2: to be desired. First time, I believe ever, all for

1971
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Speaker 2: number one, number two, number three, and number four seeds

1972
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Speaker 2: all won their opener. So, in other words, top sixteen

1973
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Speaker 2: teams there were no upsets. I guess the biggest upset

1974
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Speaker 2: was probably mc knees over Clemson. Yeah, Drake over Missouri

1975
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Speaker 2: was a sixth eleven, five to twelve, whatever. You get

1976
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Speaker 2: the point, there weren't a lot of upsets. I have

1977
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Speaker 2: my theories as to why, but I'm curious if you

1978
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Speaker 2: have any thoughts on why. At least the first two

1979
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Speaker 2: days of the tournament were pretty low key.

1980
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Speaker 1: No, I mean not really. I really want your opinion

1981
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Speaker 1: just because I already know it because I asked you

1982
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Speaker 1: about this this morning and your response was so on

1983
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Speaker 1: point and so much common sense, And I even read

1984
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Speaker 1: some articles since we chatted, and basically they were just saying, yeah,

1985
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Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of upsets, but there's no

1986
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Speaker 1: there's no new information, like there was no diagnosis as

1987
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Speaker 1: to why this was happening. But I will say that

1988
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Speaker 1: I made the point to you over the last few

1989
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Speaker 1: weeks that I've enjoyed this college basketball season more than

1990
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Speaker 1: many in recent memory, at least this last handful of years,

1991
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Speaker 1: because I don't know, it just felt like the level

1992
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Speaker 1: of play was better amongst a lot of the teams

1993
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Speaker 1: that I watched a good bit of their games during

1994
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Speaker 1: the season, And you said you know, I agree that

1995
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Speaker 1: that was that that made sense. So I just want

1996
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Speaker 1: to give you the floor and then I'll react to

1997
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Speaker 1: what you say, just because I know where you're going

1998
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Speaker 1: and it's just an opinion that I'm surprised I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen anywhere else because it makes total sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, I thought of you, you know,

2001
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Speaker 2: kind of when the bracket comes out. I'm reading a

2002
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Speaker 2: few different things from different people, and I'm not you know,

2003
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Speaker 2: I don't read a ton of other people's stuff, but

2004
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Speaker 2: I just bring it up.

2005
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the article now.

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Speaker 1: CJ.

2007
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Speaker 2: Moore from The Athletic brought up basically, he brought up

2008
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Speaker 2: some advanced analytics that seem to indicate that basically, the

2009
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Speaker 2: top of college basketball is actually better. The teams themselves

2010
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Speaker 2: are better than they've been in really quite some time,

2011
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Speaker 2: like you know, not thirty years, not fifty years, but

2012
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Speaker 2: probably better than they were ten years ago. And the

2013
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Speaker 2: argument was, and I think this is why we had

2014
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Speaker 2: so few upsets. I think it's pretty simple. Is the

2015
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Speaker 2: mid May the starman major players are just going to

2016
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Speaker 2: the power conferences and you know, one I think everybody

2017
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Speaker 2: kind of knows, but for people who don't. And by

2018
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Speaker 2: the way, I thought Will Wade kind of shedded a

2019
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Speaker 2: lot of light on this in mcneese's win, where he

2020
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Speaker 2: basically said, yeah, you know, everyone's asking me about the

2021
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Speaker 2: NC State job, but it's great for these guys because

2022
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Speaker 2: they're gonna have coaches in their dms left and right

2023
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Speaker 2: after this game.

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Speaker 3: And I bring it up because what has.

2025
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Speaker 2: Happened is, you know, I think everybody knows this, but

2026
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Speaker 2: it's not just that NIL has come into college sports.

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Speaker 2: It's that NIL is coming to sports with unlimited transfers.

2028
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Speaker 2: And so what has happened is is that basically these

2029
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Speaker 2: mid major rosters just getting cherry picked year over year

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Speaker 2: over year. I mean, it's crazy because the portal is

2031
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 2: about to open on Monday, but you kind of know

2032
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: guys are starting to announce, Hey, I'm planning on entering

2033
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Speaker 2: the portal whatever, blah blah blah blah blah. And it's like, basically,

2034
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 2: if you average double figures in the mid major, you're

2035
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Speaker 2: trying to transfer up. And what's happened and is now

2036
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Speaker 2: these high major teams, the SEC, the Big Ten, the

2037
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Speaker 2: Big twelve, they just have so much money to spend

2038
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: that you kind of have to like. It's it's no

2039
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 2: longer you want to stay at the school you like

2040
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: because your girlfriend's there, you like the coach, like, you

2041
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 2: just have to go. The money is getting so big

2042
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 2: at the high major levels, and so I think it's

2043
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: just pretty straightforward, is what you see is the best

2044
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: man major players are now virtually all transferring up to

2045
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Speaker 2: the high majors, and all you gotta do is essentially

2046
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 2: look at the All American teams. Yeah, you have a

2047
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag's who's a freshman, and you know, one and done.

2048
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: But Jed I Broom at Auburn maybe the national player there.

2049
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 2: He started his career at Morehead State. Walter Clayton at

2050
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 2: Florida started ironically, we're just talking about Rick Patino. He

2051
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: played for Rick Patino at Iona before transferring Florida. Atlantic

2052
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 2: makes that run of the Final Four a few years ago,

2053
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 2: and their whole roster. Janelle Davis was on the court

2054
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 2: for Arkansas today, Vlad Golden was on the court for

2055
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Dusty May in Michigan today. Who's the other one? Elijah Martin,

2056
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 2: their third star plays for Florida. And so it's just

2057
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 2: I think it's really actually a pretty simple diagnosis. I

2058
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 2: think the top of the sport, the analytics would tell you,

2059
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 2: is actually better because you're getting teams are able to

2060
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 2: kind of reload their rosters. And then unfortunately the mid

2061
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: majors are not as good as they've been because all

2062
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 2: the best players are leaving now. I don't think that

2063
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 2: necessarily means that we'll never see a five we'll never

2064
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Speaker 2: see a thirteen seed or a fourteen seed win a

2065
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 2: tournament game again. But I just think the top of

2066
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 2: the sport has gotten better because all these guys are

2067
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 2: transferring up to the high major level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you're not getting then the mid major

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Speaker 1: that that's like juniors and seniors like guys that have

2070
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 1: been there a while that are part of that system

2071
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: that have just gotten better and better and better. And

2072
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: this is you know, kind of maybe their last shot

2073
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: or whatever like that those guys are already gone. I

2074
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 1: think the big one that you mentioned that I just

2075
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 1: happened to notice in the same kind of time for

2076
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Speaker 1: him as you mentioning, was Davis. Like I saw him

2077
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: you made that point in the like ten minutes later,

2078
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 1: I saw him shooting free through for Arkansas. Yeah, and

2079
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: it all of a sudden clicked with me again, like,

2080
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he was part of that New Yor championship

2081
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 1: crazy run. Fau went on. And it's not just the

2082
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,719
Speaker 1: coaches that are getting cherry picked anymore, it's all the players.

2083
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: And so it just becomes an arms race where the

2084
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: arms are all these mid major programs because of the

2085
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 1: unlimited transfers and the non delay, not having to sit

2086
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 1: out a year, all this kind of stuff. It's just

2087
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: there's no way for those those smaller schools really to compete.

2088
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,759
Speaker 1: And you're right, like Will Wade has got real candid

2089
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 1: this week on a couple of different things, and I

2090
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 1: think that's a big one. It's just I feel good

2091
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: for these guys, even though yeah, I'm gonna leave. They're

2092
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 1: all going to be out of here too, because they

2093
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 1: got an opportunity and shined and showed that they can

2094
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,600
Speaker 1: help a team. And the truth of the matter is,

2095
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: you're they can't afford not to go because most of

2096
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: them are not going to the NBA. They become part

2097
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: of a championship like run or part of a top

2098
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 1: flight team in one of these big schools and get

2099
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: some money and that's more than they were gonna make

2100
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: in the first place. And it's not like they're gonna

2101
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: be a somebody's gonna play in the association. So they

2102
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: get their opportunity to cash in at the college level

2103
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: earlier to the detriment of about eighty five to ninety

2104
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: percent of the sport, which at this point the chances

2105
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,879
Speaker 1: that they had before they're just not gonna have anymore.

2106
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, and that's exactly right?

2107
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:43,759
Speaker 2: Is that basically I think even like the when nil

2108
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,839
Speaker 2: was first introduced and nobody really kind of knew exactly

2109
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: what was going on, I think these mid majors could

2110
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 2: kind of sell a kid, Hey, come back, we'll help

2111
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 2: you get set up with some stuff. But listen, it

2112
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 2: is what it is. It's become pay for play. And

2113
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 2: now again we hear story. You know, listen, this is

2114
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 2: an extra dream example. And this is in a mid

2115
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 2: major to a high major. But like we know what

2116
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 2: Carson Beck is reportedly making at Miami, right, it ain't

2117
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 2: pocket change, Like we're talking about millions of dollars. And

2118
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Speaker 2: so do we have a number on Jani Broom at Auburn. No,

2119
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 2: But I feel pretty comfortable saying he's making a crap

2120
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 2: ton of money. He may never play in the NBA,

2121
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 2: and it's certainly more money than he could have made

2122
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 2: uh staying at the mid major level. And so it

2123
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 2: just it is what it is. It's unfortunate, but it's

2124
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Speaker 2: just the reality. The other thing I was thinking too,

2125
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Speaker 2: we were talking about the Florida State or the Florida

2126
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 2: Atlantic example. A great example of the team that you

2127
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 2: talked about of guys just developing within that within a program.

2128
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 2: The San Diego State team that they played in the

2129
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 2: Final four, that played Yukon two years ago. I remember

2130
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: being there and looking at their roster. This was San

2131
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Speaker 2: Diego State. Basically every guy was a fifth or sixth

2132
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Speaker 2: year senior that had all been at San Diego State

2133
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: and they loved being there. And again it was before

2134
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 2: nil really blew up, and it was all fifth and

2135
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: six of your guys that have been there forever. And

2136
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 2: then again time goes on, those guys get phased out.

2137
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 2: They're starting point guard actually is now at Kentucky. But

2138
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 2: that was the perfect example of a team that was

2139
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 2: able to kind of grow together, had made a few tournaments,

2140
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 2: and then that final year could make a run.

2141
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 3: And now I just again, there will be eleven.

2142
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 2: Seeds or thirteen seeds or whatever that make the second weekend.

2143
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's gone forever. But I think

2144
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 2: the idea, like you said, of a team coming in

2145
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 2: as freshmen and then like they's sophomore year they make

2146
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 2: the tournament, and then their junior year they like, I

2147
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 2: think those days, unfortunately are over.

2148
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, I think the question that it's

2149
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 1: we can ask it even though you don't have a

2150
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: choice in this matter. If you're a viewer, are you

2151
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice Thursday and Friday for more competitive games

2152
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 1: a little bit faster moving forward? Because we'll see what

2153
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: happens today, but we know what happened yesterday. You had

2154
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: some pretty solid games with less of the digit seeds,

2155
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: and so maybe the storylines were a bit different, but

2156
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: the level of basketball was higher and so the games

2157
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: were better. So the question is what is the NCAA

2158
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: Tournament to you? Is it the Thursday Friday crazy upset

2159
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 1: for UNC, you know, Wilmington or whoever it might be

2160
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: in that moment. Is it the Northern Iowa Ali Farutemanesh

2161
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Drew Valparaiso, that kind of thing? Is it that?

2162
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: Or is it more about the final four? Is it

2163
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: more about making sure, the elite teams, the teams that

2164
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: are the most talented, are in the Sweet sixteen, are

2165
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: in the Elite eight. Have gotten through all of those

2166
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: other kinds of things and a lot of the chaff.

2167
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 1: I hate to say it that way, but a lot

2168
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: of the chaff's been separated. It's been winnowed. You've thrown

2169
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 1: it up into the air. The seeds have hit the ground,

2170
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: and the rest of it's been pushed away. The husk

2171
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: of the corn is gone. Now you can actually just

2172
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 1: enjoy the harvest. Like is that okay with you? Because

2173
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: I think most people would say that the NCAA tournament

2174
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: is more about Thursday and Friday than it is about

2175
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the tournament. But I think from a

2176
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: sports watching perspective, how we evaluated Aaron and how most

2177
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 1: I would think of our listeners view it. It's important

2178
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 1: that the final four, the Elite eight, and all those

2179
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 1: things are good. It's important that you have really competitive

2180
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: matchups with top flight deals, and you're more likely to

2181
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: have that at the expense of the madness, so to speak,

2182
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: of March or the bracket being busted. I saw you

2183
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: my brackets in pretty good shape. I think it was

2184
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: like second or third, tied for third or something in

2185
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,719
Speaker 1: our fox bracket or whatever. And I wasn't like blown

2186
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:46,719
Speaker 1: away by that, just because there weren't a lot of upsets,

2187
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 1: so my bracket didn't have a chance to get busted.

2188
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: So I imagine most people's brackets are in better shape

2189
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 1: this year than they have been in most because if

2190
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 1: you didn't pick a lot of upsets, you're in pretty

2191
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 1: good shape right now.

2192
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. I was actually thinking about that is

2193
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 3: one quality of play.

2194
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 2: I think there's three things that actually help that people

2195
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 2: would say, oh, I love the upsets, but it helps.

2196
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 2: One is that you get a better quality of play

2197
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 2: the deeper the tournament goes on. Two, you could sit

2198
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 2: there and say that, oh, you love the upsets, but

2199
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 2: the ratings would reflect that the average fan wants the

2200
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 2: big brands and the star players, the Cooper Flags, the Dukes,

2201
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 2: the Kentucky's, the Hoomever's. And then three, I think it

2202
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 2: helps because it keeps people invested because their brackets are

2203
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 2: doing well. Whereas you know, three seed upsets of fourteen seed,

2204
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for you to make a run

2205
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,799
Speaker 2: if you have that team going deep. So it's something

2206
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 2: to think about. It's something to consider. But I will

2207
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 2: say is again, I'm not saying that we'll never see

2208
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 2: a big upset, but I do think that it does

2209
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 2: feel like the days of those mid majors I think

2210
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 2: are done. And then I think, as well, I just

2211
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be harder to topple these teams because again,

2212
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: they can just build with established college players every spring,

2213
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 2: get a roster together and go from there. Fox Sports

2214
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 2: Radio air tors Jason Martin Bront casting live from the

2215
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: tyreq dot com studios, will come back start to look

2216
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 2: ahead to a fun slate of games on Sunday. Before

2217
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 2: we do though final time this evening, let's get it

2218
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 2: to the news desk to Sega.

2219
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:10,440
Speaker 3: What is trending?

2220
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 6: What you have mentioned before has happened in sports where

2221
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 6: you get no upsets early but tons of excitement late. Famously,

2222
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 6: in baseball, nineteen eighty six playoffs came after there were

2223
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 6: no division races that went down to the stretch. It

2224
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 6: was nothing at the end of the regular season, and

2225
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 6: then you got the absolute classic Red Sox Angels ALCS

2226
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 6: and the legendary Red Sox Mets World Series.

2227
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 3: And it Mets Astros game six go like eighteen names.

2228
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 6: Absolutely it did, and that was the clinching game. So

2229
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 6: you did wind up with games that are still talked about,

2230
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 6: you know, yeh forty years or so later. So hopefully

2231
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 6: that's what we're getting what you were referencing with the

2232
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 6: top four seeds in each region going undefeated. It was

2233
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 6: sixteen and zero for the first round. That has happened

2234
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 6: five times before since the expansion in the eighties. But

2235
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 6: what was the the record was the blowouts. They didn't

2236
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 6: They weren't just undefeated. It was an average margin of

2237
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 6: victory of twenty three points for the top four.

2238
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 3: Next tournament or women's tournament, which what are we talking

2239
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 3: about here?

2240
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 6: Really imitating the latter. We will go to get a

2241
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 6: lot more college hoops in just a moment, but I

2242
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 6: must mention this shocker of a late game in the NBA.

2243
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 6: The Lakers are completely healthy now and they lost at

2244
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:27,600
Speaker 6: home to the Chicago Bulls one forty six one to

2245
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 6: one point fifteen, which means the Lakers tied their franchise

2246
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 6: record allowing one forty six in a home game. That's

2247
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 6: their most ever non overtime. They also in nineteen eighty

2248
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 6: four allowed one forty six to a Nuggets team that

2249
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 6: seemed to score one forty six every night back then.

2250
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 6: But Josh Giddy of the Bulls not only had a

2251
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 6: triple double in LA tonight fifteen points, ten rebounds, seventeen assists,

2252
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 6: Giddy had eight steals as well lab assists. He had

2253
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:01,520
Speaker 6: seventeen assists, only two turnovers and eight ste.

2254
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, but the Bulls are clearly the best team

2255
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: in the leage of meat.

2256
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 6: So there's a team that entered thirty and forty and

2257
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 6: the Lakers are completely healthy, including Lebron back and Luca

2258
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 6: had about thirty points in three quarters, and my goodness,

2259
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 6: was it lops well.

2260
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 2: Josh Gitty is the guy that went for thirty twenty

2261
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was that was Nicole Jokic.

2262
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 3: My badness. I get them confused by.

2263
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 6: The way Josh Gitty almost a quadruple double in this game.

2264
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 6: Nikola Jokic and the Nuggets will miss another game on Sunday.

2265
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 6: Bad ankle out for a four straight game. Jalen Brown

2266
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 6: and the Celtics is out this weekend at least with

2267
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 6: a bruce knee. He'll be re evaluated on Monday. We'll

2268
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 6: see when Steph Curry is coming back. He was out

2269
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 6: tonight as they lost in Atlanta. Pelvic contusion after the

2270
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 6: fall is the problem. Among the NHL games, LA seven

2271
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 6: to two over Carolina, Edmonton five to four winners against Seattle.

2272
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,719
Speaker 6: You did reference the women's hoops. Yukon won its opener

2273
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 6: one to three, thirty four against Arkansas State USC seventy

2274
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 6: one to twenty five over UNC Greensboro. Oklahoma had a

2275
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 6: tournament record seventy two rebounds at its win against Florida

2276
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 6: Gulf Coast eighty one fifty eight FGC is seventeen of

2277
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 6: seventy two from the floor, So there were those misshots

2278
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 6: that Oklahoma had, plus the offensive rebounds. Seventy two boards

2279
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 6: in a forty minute college game.

2280
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Anybody seventy sorts.

2281
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 6: That is a tournament record. So if they say that,

2282
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 6: I'm guessing somebody in some lopsided regular season game has

2283
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 6: done that before. But it is insane. That's a good word.

2284
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 6: South Dakota State beat Oklahoma State. By the way. For

2285
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:38,679
Speaker 6: the men's NCAA tournament, of course, is going on. NIT

2286
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 6: had Bradley and Chattanooga each winning the other six games

2287
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 6: in their second round Sunday, including Oklahoma State SMU and

2288
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 6: the CBI Attorney opens on Sunday with four games, including

2289
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 6: Army against Elon. Check your local listings. In the NCAA

2290
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 6: Tournament second round, two seed Tennessee eliminated UCLA sixty seven

2291
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 6: to fifty eight. Houston and Purdue each one. They'll face

2292
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 6: each each other Friday. In the Sweet sixteen. Houston beat

2293
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 6: Gonzaga eighty one seventy six. Purdue's win was against mcnee's

2294
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 6: seventy six sixty two. Texas Tech over Drake seventy seven

2295
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 6: sixty four. Texas Tech on two pointers twenty six for

2296
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 6: thirty eight in this game. Thursday in San Francisco, they'll

2297
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 6: be facing Arkansas. In the Sweet sixteen. Hogs beat two

2298
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 6: seed Saint John seventy five to sixty six. Auburn and

2299
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 6: Michigan each one. They'll face each other in Atlanta Friday.

2300
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 6: In the Sweet sixteen, one seed Auburn beat Creighton eighty

2301
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,799
Speaker 6: two to seventy. Creighton went scoreless for over six minutes

2302
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 6: in the second half and fell behind by fourteen points.

2303
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 6: This game had been tied fifty to fifty in the

2304
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 6: second half, but Auburn in the second half shot sixty

2305
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 6: percent from the floor. The Michigan win was ninety one

2306
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 6: seventy nine against Texas A and m Michigan actually trailed

2307
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:51,680
Speaker 6: by ten with about thirteen minutes to go. This Wolverine's

2308
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 6: team has five wins in the last nine days, and

2309
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 6: these last two wins are at altitude in Denver. Very impressive.

2310
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 6: This was a three point lead with one minute left.

2311
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 6: Ninety one seventy nine the final and BYU eliminated three

2312
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,799
Speaker 6: seed Wisconsin ninety one eighty nine. John Tangia the Badger's

2313
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 6: thirty seven points, but he airbowled the final shot. Big

2314
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 6: ten teams had been ten to zero in the tournament

2315
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 6: until that game and a final notes, we had a

2316
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 6: no hitter at spring training with the Orioles beating the

2317
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 6: Pirates for nothing. Pirates did have regulars in there for

2318
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 6: a couple of a bats. Eventually, oh for twenty seven

2319
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 6: at the plate with ten strikeouts and three walks.

2320
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Saga,

2321
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 2: have a great evening to Sega. Will be back on

2322
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 2: Sunday with the Gang Spaniard and Plank, Willard and Ephraim.

2323
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Busy Sunday ahead. Speaking of busy Sunday, well come back.

2324
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 3: We will look ahead to the Sunday slate of college

2325
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 3: hoops Duke Yukon, Florida among many in action. That's next.

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Speaker 2: teams have advanced to the Sweet sixteen after Saturday's results. Again,

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01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 2: by the way, you missed any of it, make sure

2344
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: to go back and download the podcast. Make sure you're

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01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 2: subscribed on Fox Sports Radio YouTube. Eight teams have advanced

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01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: though Arkansas, Tennessee, Houston BYU. I'm not gonna do all

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01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 2: of them, but you get the point. A lot of

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01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 2: good teams are advancing to next weekend. Eight games on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: J Marts starting at twelve ten Eastern time, the two

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01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 2: time defending champion Yukon Huskies against the Florida Gators. That

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01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: leads into Duke trying to get to the Sweet sixteen

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01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 2: against Baylor, and from there it goes on and on.

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Speaker 2: Any game, any storyline has your attention for Sunday, Jmart.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there's anything that really stands out.

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01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't feel like Duke or Florida either

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01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 1: one is gonna face too much. No disrespect to Yukon.

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Speaker 3: I just I'm with you.

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01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about our brackets, but I've got Florida

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01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: winning the whole thing, sure, and I just I look

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01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:38,919
Speaker 1: at the talent and everything else. I don't think Yukon's

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01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: got the got the horses for this one. And I

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01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: just kind of look down the rest of this slate

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01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: and I'm just where is the possible upset. Michigan State

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01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 1: struggled for a half and then they looked pretty good

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01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: in the second half of their first round matchup Ole

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01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,919
Speaker 1: miss Iowa State. That could be an interesting, interesting matchup.

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01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 1: I would say Kentucky in this moment, but Kentucky fans

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 1: are going to really really have a problem if they

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01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 1: don't get out of the first weekend and Cal did well.

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01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 1: Not only this, I kind of want to see Illinois

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01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: win next yame.

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01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 3: Not only that.

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Speaker 2: Remember Mark Pope left BYU B yusing the Sweet sixteen

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01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 2: as well.

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01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right.

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01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that is a little internet thing, is that?

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01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 3: Listen?

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01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 2: I think Mark Pope's a good a good coach. They

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01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 2: have actually dealt with a ton of injuries.

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01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have.

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01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 2: I think he shared a stat on selection Sunday. They're

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01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 2: bottom ten in the country in like basically the minutes

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01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 2: that would have been like like basically the minutes that

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01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 2: could have been played by the players that were expected

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01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: to play versus the minutes that were actually played. In

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01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 2: other words, they've basically had starters out all year long.

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01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you, j Mart. I even saw something like

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01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 2: the message board Genius Posts, which is like they just

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01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 2: browse message boards where it was there's a lot There

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01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 2: were a lot of Kentucky fans on the message boards

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01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: today basically saying if we lose on Sunday, I am

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01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 2: not going to be very happy.

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01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I'm telling you, like, it's gonna

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01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: be really ugly because and again, they've put themselves out

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01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 1: there and tried to mock Cal for whatever reason, and

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01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 1: now it's on them. And they're a team that you

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01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 1: talk about the injuries. They just haven't been at their

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01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:19,879
Speaker 1: best down the stretch of this season, similar to Auburn,

2399
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: but worse. And so they're going against an Illinois team

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01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: that absolutely will have no problem beating them if they

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01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 1: don't show up to play in that game. So I

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01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: mean that I think maybe is the most intriguing storyline

2403
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 1: because Cal is in is what happens to Kentucky. And again,

2404
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 1: if one of the two to one seeds are challenged

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01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: at all, I think that becomes interesting. Yeah, but yeah,

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01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the other ones anything particularly jumps out.

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01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't really think Saint Mary's will be able to

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01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: compete against Alabama, for example, but there's some interesting stuff

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01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 1: there is.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 2: I love my Huskies, but this is not their year.

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01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 2: I think Florida rolls in that opener, Duke the same

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01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 2: against Bailey.

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Speaker 3: We gotta get out of here one. I thank the

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Speaker 3: crew of Mary Mack.

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Speaker 2: I'm the board producer Ian Steve Disaga from my partner

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01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, I'm here, Torres. Make sure to download the podcast.

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Speaker 2: A lot of college hoops and beyond. Coming up next.

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01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fritto Show. Can't wait to

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Speaker 2: hear Bernie, That's next.

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