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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 1: are you. You are here, and that makes this the

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Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. It is one

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Speaker 1: of our favorite times of the week. Fellow conspiracy realist.

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Speaker 1: This is where my colleagues NOL, Matt and I bring

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Speaker 1: you the news that does it always make the headlines.

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Speaker 1: The ridiculous, the eerie, the disturbing, the important, and crucially

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Speaker 1: this strange. Today we are going to learn about some

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Speaker 1: things that are happening in medical schools. We are going

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Speaker 1: to learn of possible catastrophic disruption, and we are going

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Speaker 1: to return to one of my favorite weird hobby horses,

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Speaker 1: the Life and Times of Corvid's shout out to you, California.

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Speaker 1: You'll see what we mean in a second, but for now,

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Speaker 1: maybe we start with airline travel. Now, Matt, you and

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Speaker 1: I know that our good buddy Noel. Noel has been

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Speaker 1: on the flying the Friendly Skies more recently. I think

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Speaker 1: That was probably the scariest one because I haven't traveled

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Speaker 1: just kind of not really being sure you're kind to

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Speaker 1: to anything. Did they serve food on that flight? They did,

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing up this flight stuff is because you're quite

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Speaker 1: with us today have had their plans waylaid by cancelations

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Speaker 1: due to short staffing due to COVID. But it appears,

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Speaker 1: thanks to a story that you're bringing us today, Matt,

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Speaker 1: it appears that there's another plot twist on the way

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Speaker 1: and quite possibly, um well, the word I'm I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: what's in the headlines. This, unlike most of our other stories,

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Speaker 1: open right now continuing to check on updates because this,

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Speaker 1: this story concerns something that's happening tomorrow as we record this.

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Speaker 1: We're recording January, and the events are supposed to take

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Speaker 1: place tomorrow, Wednesday, the nineteenth of January. And this is

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Speaker 1: another situation where I'm having a hard time discerning what

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Speaker 1: The new C band five G networks will operate between

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Speaker 1: This is kind of like we're the discussion we were

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Speaker 1: low number occur. But then also we can't forget that

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Speaker 1: there is a tremendous amount of violence against women. UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know that sticks out to me when you

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Speaker 1: talk about sexual assault, UM, which can in someone's career.

434
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: They it can end the victim's career with the perpetrator

435
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Speaker 1: walking free or getting a slap on the wrist. It's

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Speaker 1: it's um, it's tremendously unclean. And I mean it's not

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Speaker 1: that necessarily there the evidence is there to support this

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Speaker 1: quite yet. But the implication almost feels like, what if

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Speaker 1: there were some situation where whether it's professor, some person

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Speaker 1: in a position of power that's you know, perpetrating these

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Speaker 1: assaults and then killing these people, killing these students, and

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00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: it's being covered up. It could be a combination of

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Speaker 1: actual suicide and that if the report of strangulation and

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Speaker 1: sexual assault you know, is accurate. Um. But it's it's

445
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: it's definitely something seems off. I don't even know what

446
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Speaker 1: to say about this one. This is I don't know either.

447
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, it's it just has that I

448
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: don't know the way um, all the facts are starting

449
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: to line up. It just feels like there's going to

450
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: be a follow up to this and we're going to

451
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: something quite troubling, but I hope not. Yeah, but there's

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00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: a chilling line that the vice article ends on, which

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00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: is a very important question. If these cases are indeed

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Speaker 1: UH acts of suicide, then why aren't there suicide prevention?

455
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: They use the phrase protocols right? Why aren't there mental

456
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: health resources more available to the students? And the last

457
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: line of the article is yesterday it was Namita and Tarik.

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00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: Today it's a machine. We don't know who will be next.

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00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: So I think I think the students and the residents

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Speaker 1: of the area are sharing those concerns, as as is

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00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: everyone listening along with us today. Absolutely, And just to

462
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: to wrap it up, I mean the university did UM

463
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Speaker 1: do kind of what would appear to be sort of

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Speaker 1: a pr move of of scheduling a mental health seminar,

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Speaker 1: But a lot of the folks that commented for the

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Speaker 1: ory and that are involved in the advocacy for more

467
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: mental health resources, UH say it was clearly kind of

468
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: a hollow attempt at checking a box because they scheduled

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Speaker 1: it like during finals. Um, so there were barely any

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Speaker 1: students that were even able to attend. I know it's

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Speaker 1: a heavy one, but I really does have the air

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Speaker 1: of mystery to it, and I'm interested to see what

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00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: ends up being uncovered here. Um. But until then, let's

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Speaker 1: take a break and then we'll come back with another

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Speaker 1: strange news. And we have returned now. You may notice,

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Speaker 1: a stute fellow conspiracy realist that our first two stories

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Speaker 1: for this week's segment have been touching on things that

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Speaker 1: are disturbing that we believe are important, and we want

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Speaker 1: your help with what your expertise as pilots or people

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00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: work in the aviation industry or in the telecom industry.

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Speaker 1: We want your hate in your perspective if you are

482
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: in Pakistan or have attended medical school in Pakistan. We

483
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: also talked a little bit off air before we started

484
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Speaker 1: rolling today. We did there it a bit about where

485
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Speaker 1: to put this story, and we thought we would end

486
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Speaker 1: on maybe a little bit of a palate cleanser, a

487
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: very weird story, one of those things that makes you

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Speaker 1: check the check the address to make sure you're not

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Speaker 1: reading the onion. So let's introduce everybody to a town

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00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: called sunny Vale, California. Uh, sunny Veil, California. It's pretty

491
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: swell placed people like it. And something weird happened in

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00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: sunny Vale. When the pandemic hit. Pretty much every town

493
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: in the United States and many towns across the planet

494
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: ended up closing to some degree. The streets were empty,

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00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: as though it were h New Year's Day in the

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00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: morning or something right. People just weren't going to places.

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: Online orders were booming. We all went through that weird,

498
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: awkward phase where we tried to hang out with our

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Speaker 1: friends on zoom. Uh. And I don't miss those days.

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Speaker 1: But Sunny Veil never actually closed down. Uh. Their demographic

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00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: of visitors change. Since the beginning of the pandemic, thousands

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00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: of tourists of new visitors have been hanging out living

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00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: the high life in sunny Vale. And they're not the

504
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: most classy visitors. They're trashing stuff, They're pooping everywhere, They're

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00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: eating trash off the street. Spoiler alert, These visitors are

506
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: not human. Their crows. I did it squeezing in another

507
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: crow episode or another crew thing. You're You're fine feathered friends,

508
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Ben that you command with your mind. You don't command friends,

509
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: you work with them. If anybody tries to command you,

510
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: they're not your friend. But yeah, this came to be.

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Speaker 1: This blew my mind, you guys. I want to first

512
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: reference some of the most noteworthy work I've seen on

513
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: this report. The story broke national media about six seven

514
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: days ago. We were on a we're on a bit

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00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: of a break, so I held this one. If you

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00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: go to New York Times, you'll see a wonderful article

517
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: by Alyssa. Look that and it says a California city

518
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: is overrun by crows. Wait for it. Could a laser

519
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: be the answer? That's where we're going where war with

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: crows were using lasers? Uh, And they're using a boom

521
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: box by the way. But so this story is a

522
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: long time in the making. The city officials of Sunny

523
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Vale have been trying to get the crows out of

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00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: town for like at least five years. But remember earlier

525
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: when we talked about how many animals were going into

526
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: abandoned towns during the pandemic, Like goats were taken over

527
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: that town in Europe and so on. Crows were doing

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00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: that in sunny Vale and their population exploded. The mayor,

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00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: a guy named Larry Klein, is like, the fact that

530
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: he has to make public statements about this is amazing

531
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: and I want to see the Christopher Guest movie about this. Uh.

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00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: He is on record saying the streets are basically riddled

533
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: with crow pooh uh and that's you know, that's a

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00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: public statement by a mayor. Dude. This sounds like the

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00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: plot for a season of Trailer Park Boys, which also

536
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: takes place in a place called sunny veil Um, only

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00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: they don't have a mayor. They have a drunk trailer

538
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: park supervisor named Mr Lahy. I remember that guy. Yeah,

539
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: but he does fulfill the role of mayor. Yes, there

540
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: actually is a plot point in one of the seasons

541
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: where um Ricky has a pet crow named Cheryl Crowe

542
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: checks out. I remember that. And this is this is

543
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: all funny and cute because Trailer Park Boys is a

544
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: great uh amazingly improvised show. Uh. And it's just the

545
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: one crow, It's just Cheryl. But the streets are overwhelmed

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00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: now in Sunny Vale. For anybody unfamiliar with California, because

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of people who are not in

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Speaker 1: the US. It's about forty miles to the southeast of

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, and the city has tried so many things.

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00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: But Corvid's, including crows, are some of the smartest living

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00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: animals alive today. Like, there's a very short list of

552
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: cognitive abilities that animals share with humans, and crows share

553
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: many of those traits to a disturbing degree. So they're

554
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: basically too smart for a lot of things that will

555
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: work for other birds. Like, uh, that's why scarecrows have

556
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: such a limited shelf life. It doesn't take then take

557
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: these guys long to figure out that that's just a

558
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: human likes sculpture. So scarecrows didn't work. They deployed falcons,

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00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: They deployed predatory birds. If you have listened to our

560
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: earlier stories on Corvid's, you know that they have a

561
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: mob strategy when it comes to fighting against predatory birds.

562
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: They are in an existential war with owls as we record,

563
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: and they are not They are not afraid to roll

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00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: deep on a falcon. So the falcon didn't work. It

565
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: had limited success because you know, maybe it could snag

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00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: a couple lone corvid's if it caught them unawares, but

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00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: as soon as one survives, it goes and posse's up. Yes.

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00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: So wait, Ben, are you saying that Sunnyvale hired a

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Speaker 1: falconer or at least one falconer. Yes, yes, uh And

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00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: funny you mentioned that I actually am going, uh going

571
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: to hang out with some predatory birds in the near

572
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: future here in Georgia. Yeah. You don't have to be

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Speaker 1: a falcon in order to do it, which is great because,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned on an old episode of Daily zeiteguys,

575
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: falconry has some not safe for work stuff involved. Just

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00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: google falcon hat. Okay, not non we'll spoil it. You

577
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: guys don't want to talking about I don't think I do,

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00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: but I don't like falconry, and just for its own reasons,

579
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: we we have to get ol one of these hats

580
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: that I'm too protective. I'm too protective. No, you deserve

581
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: betternals leading me right now. What's happened? No, no, not

582
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: at all. I am trying to save you. Matt is

583
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: trying to prank you. So for some predatory birds, some

584
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: types of falcons to reproduce, falconers will put on a

585
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: special hat and they'll make the equivalent of falcon dirty talk,

586
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: like hey big boy, I'm barren room, and and the

587
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: falcon will land on the hat and have sexual congress

588
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: with it. I am trying to explain this in an

589
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: adult way while the person is wearing the hat making

590
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: the falcon dirty talk. And then they will collect the

591
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: emissions on the yep and they will use it to

592
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: grow the breeding population. It is an invention that has

593
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: saved saved many of these animals. But literally hats off

594
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: to whomever does that, because I'm not wearing the hat anyway.

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair. Man. It's going falcon hat,

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00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: and I just can't just getting sports things. I need

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00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: to falconry hat reproduce. Okay, isn't there a certain amount

598
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: of imprinting that happens there too? With maybe answer Okay, yeah,

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00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the big things, the bond between

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00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: the falcon or and falconheah, it looks like a waffle

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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of uhh yep, Like actually it's just grinding on

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00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: this dude, poor dude's head yet and then and then

603
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: and then there's like it's like a dog bowl kind

604
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: of receptacle at the tops. I guess collects the digism. Yep, yep,

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00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: it does. That is the technical terms, so please check

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00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: that out if you would like to learn more about falconry.

607
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: Whether or not the falcon or in this situation was

608
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: wearing a hat, we do not know. We'd have to

609
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: contact the mayor. But long story short, with all the

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00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: stuff they had to go through with the falcons, it

611
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: did not work because the birds are too smart, and

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00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: so they decided that they are going to resort to lasers,

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00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: actual lasers. They're gonna spend an hour every evening shooting

614
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: green lasers at these crows. And while they do that,

615
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna take a boom box, like a literal, old school,

616
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: do the right thing kind of boom box, and they're

617
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: going to play recordings of crows quote in a stress

618
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: while they're while they're shining this green laser around. And

619
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: the idea is that when they see the laser shining

620
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: through the tree line every evening, the crows are going

621
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: to think that there are animals running back and forth

622
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: in the darkness and it will spook them. So crows

623
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: are so smart that the residents of Sunny Vale have

624
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: to resort to psychological warfare. They they can't they can't

625
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: like outsmart them the normal ways. These are the most

626
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: brained of bird brains. So instead what they have to

627
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: do is try to get into their minds, which is amazing.

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00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: And they're not trying to kill them, to be clear,

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00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: They're just trying to sort of gentrify them and move

630
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: them to a different part of town. Uh. But the

631
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: problem is according to an expert in the world of corvids,

632
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Dr Kevin mc gowan, and ornithologist over at the Cornell

633
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Lab of Ornithology in there in Ithaca, New York. According

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00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: to him, this dispersal is a very tricky, risky game

635
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: because some of these birds just don't want to move.

636
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, I got a good here, you know

637
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. The people are mainly gone because of

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00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: this pandemic. That doesn't affect me. I am bawling. I

639
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: will eat your trash and I'm not scared of your

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00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: scarecrows or your falcons. Take that hat off, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it will make them quote freak out just a

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Speaker 1: technical term think in ornithology. Uh yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: do you guys? Remember we talked about how some birds

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Speaker 1: We got to be very careful about how we put this,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, that's what I'm saying. Something but Sunnyvale should

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Speaker 1: you think the crows will just gang up on them,

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Speaker 1: They will try to track it and hunt it to

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Speaker 1: it's crazy, um, but I think that's a good solution.

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Speaker 1: They didn't. I didn't see too much mention of drones,

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Speaker 1: some seventy five thousand crows. But he has this guy

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Speaker 1: out this article. There's a lot of other stuff about

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Speaker 1: this on an ornithology forums, but he had one that

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Speaker 1: really stood out to me where describing crows and Sunny Vale,

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Speaker 1: he said, they're like teenagers and COVID. You know, just

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Speaker 1: kidn't stop them getting together. What if they came up

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Speaker 1: with a pied piper type situation, Um, you know, just

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Speaker 1: lure them all out of town and into the sea. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you are onto something. Because this story made me recall

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Speaker 1: a book that I recently read that I may have

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Speaker 1: talked about earlier. Raven master. This is the guy. I

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Speaker 1: this is Christopher Escafe. He is he is the guy

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Speaker 1: there's a world in which and the stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: our cruel fiction ideas. There's a world in which this

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Speaker 1: leave Sunny Vale. Um, thank you. And oh dude, he

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Speaker 1: could work with some people out there and start a

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Speaker 1: new app with the ravens. It's like a raven delivery

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Speaker 1: And let us know what you think Sunnydale should do

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Speaker 1: about its crows. Can we just say really quickly that

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