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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Hight.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it live on a game day edition of

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely bow and draped in greatness.

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Speaker 3: The great z the Great Hoff is here. It is

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Speaker 3: Steelers game day edition of the program. Welcome in How

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Speaker 3: we live. Great you guys, sleepover we did, had a sleepover.

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Speaker 3: Even brought my own pillow out I did.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. Yeah. Yeah, the one that everybody hates

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Speaker 2: except for me. No I use it.

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Speaker 3: You like it too, Yeah, the one with the second one,

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Speaker 3: No I use it. I've I haven't had a neck

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Speaker 3: problem since. Oh dude, I tried to talk people into

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Speaker 3: try to get my bobs like I don't know how

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Speaker 3: to use it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, just stick your head in there, like that's

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Speaker 2: how it works. Yeah, it's perfect. I use it every night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, neck and shoulder problems right away from me, right away,

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Speaker 4: because otherwise you're like this.

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Speaker 2: I needed, I needed, and I haven't found the perfect balance.

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Speaker 2: I need a second pillow with it under it to

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Speaker 2: get it to like the right height for me. Well,

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Speaker 2: are you I'm a side sleeper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: that's why I liked it. But the best is I

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Speaker 2: knew that I was coming out. I made the I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh this is up. And my daughter had tried it

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Speaker 2: for a while and didn't work, and so then I

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Speaker 2: was like, how about you guys gonna sleep over. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get It.

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Speaker 4: Was nice that that mattress you had me on too,

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Speaker 4: was like a cloud.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: I was a little nervous it was gonna be so

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Speaker 4: soft because I got but it's firm enough. Like I

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Speaker 4: woke up, I sprang right out of bed. Could have

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Speaker 4: been that feast that we had toody and my soul

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Speaker 4: what was the body?

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Speaker 2: And soul was lourished? What did you said? So we

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Speaker 2: got a good set out down there and the guests.

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Speaker 2: So we got king bed, very dark room. That's what

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Speaker 2: you want. Probably it's probably cool down there. That's what

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, it was delightful and something I really liked.

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Speaker 4: You know, z Is always won for details, and I

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Speaker 4: appreciate that. Yeah, he's got these lights that when you

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Speaker 4: It turns like a very low blue light on so

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Speaker 4: right in the middle of the night, you're in a

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Speaker 4: new environment. You maybe don't know how you got down.

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Speaker 2: There, like it takes a little bit to kind of navigate,

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Speaker 4: Maze, like trying to figure out where the bathroom is.

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Speaker 2: But that was an excuse give miss Kay the crowds.

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Speaker 2: I can't take credit for that. That was her. She's like,

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Speaker 2: we need to have some motion censored so people wake

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Speaker 2: up in here they can see you pitchable dark room. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was great. So last night, so we had a

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Speaker 4: It was so I've always told my friends in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: He went brownie batter and the bananas. He went, and

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Speaker 2: whole meal back. Honestly, I was not. I was. I

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Speaker 2: the night, there were three raviolis left, and and Miss

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Speaker 2: K offered you the rest of her file A. That's true.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to like you like well, she saw

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is that disgusted You do it

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Speaker 2: we had some great wines last night. They were really

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Speaker 2: It starts flowing drinking like you're running a race. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, never get the first time my boys met you,

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Speaker 2: We just coined you the whole. I remember I was

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Speaker 2: called into a meeting we were like years before you

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, we can't. Again, I wasn't he was,

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Speaker 2: But also, what are we doing? Yeah, so that's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: It's a wonderful night.

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Speaker 3: Was it just all all red? Or did we ever

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Speaker 3: turn brown on the on the.

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Speaker 2: Offered offered, especially with some of the new things I had, Ye, smart, No,

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Speaker 2: let's stay, Well, let's stay. I'd imagine had we made

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Speaker 2: both be feeling a lot worse than we are to Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think that we have we have big jobs ahead

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Speaker 2: to day for everybody, really big day. It's a big,

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Speaker 2: big day for everybody. It is a Brown Steelers game day.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night football. The weather could be a factor. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's cold. I'm in my fleecy fleecy crew neick, I

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Speaker 3: You because, yeah, these are lovely, They're nice. What is

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Speaker 2: Is there precipitation to or is it just cold? Oh no,

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Speaker 2: I'm so I believe we could get some a wintry

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Speaker 2: Let me be to five let me be the meteorologist

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Speaker 2: for pull up put a probably is the correct apps

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Speaker 6: Like a rain snow mix. It's wind twenty to twenty

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Speaker 6: it definitely looks like there is a line of stuff coming.

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Speaker 6: Give yourself plenty of time to get downtown if you're

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Speaker 4: A little bit of snow during the afternoon. It should

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Speaker 4: up a little bit potentially with some of the lake

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Speaker 2: Did you pick it up?

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Speaker 3: I just want to bring a tent. Gey goes, let's go.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be in the booth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not out in it. You're not out of

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Speaker 6: just so we're clear. Whatever the temperature is outside is

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Speaker 6: what it's it in the booth.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me just Cillis asked me last night, said,

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Speaker 2: windows opening you it's your call? No, we do, we do.

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Speaker 2: It's I think it is. It's the voice's call, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean Jim set the tone. Yeah, voice makes a call.

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Speaker 2: The only time we ever close them was that Christmas

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Speaker 2: Eve against the Saints. Yeah, that was thirty below. Well,

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Speaker 2: and if the wind came to it, like literally frozy.

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Speaker 4: To your do you have a hard time speaking when

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Speaker 4: it gets cold like that was the I've struggled sideline

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Speaker 4: the most, like doing TNF for those years we were outside.

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Speaker 4: We were on the sideline, right, and then you talk

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Speaker 4: slowly and then your your nose drips like it's it's

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Speaker 4: not easy to have a voice that's silky smooth like yours.

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Speaker 4: And Andrews like when you're freezing.

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Speaker 2: Cold, No, it is not. And when you're when I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's much easier to play in those conditions because

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Speaker 2: Uh, first of all, for people to don't realize this, Yes,

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Speaker 2: so you guys are on the field, but you're doing activity,

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Speaker 2: but when you come back to the sideline, it's seventy

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Speaker 2: degrees sweating. Yeah, he didn't see. It's in the bench

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Speaker 2: like a bubble of joy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had a I did an Ohio State Minnesota post

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Speaker 3: game that in Minneapolis, third weekend of November, right before

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Speaker 3: they played Mit the Michigan game, and it was twenty

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Speaker 2: And that I couldn't move like my case.

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Speaker 3: And I got emails people thinking I was drunk, that's what,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like not on this particular saturday, I got

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Speaker 3: to stand out. Yeah, but no, like your function stops

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Speaker 2: How disappointed are you that I don't have to be

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Speaker 2: that I'm not on the sidelines because that you lots

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Speaker 2: of joy for him?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I'm totally fine with it, because otherwise you

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Speaker 2: About how cold it was. Yeah, okay, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: Hoff said something I wanted to circle back to. You

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Speaker 3: said that the weather is an advantage for the underdog

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Speaker 3: hy Well because it slows everybody down. First of all,

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Speaker 3: typically makes throwing the football probably a little bit more challenging.

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Speaker 3: Favors a guy that's got a bigger arm. I think

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Speaker 3: James has got a little bit bigger arm than Russell.

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Speaker 3: And when you kind of slow everything down, you know,

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Speaker 2: And weird stuff happens. Weird stuff happens when the ball slick,

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Speaker 4: I think it slu fest tonight. Remember the Thursday night

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Speaker 4: That was a really cold Thursday night game.

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Speaker 4: But you could also have a ton of turnovers because

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what is one thing Huff we talked about this

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Speaker 4: Certainly it's not to the level of Ohio State Michigan,

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Speaker 2: Be really really mad at you.

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Speaker 4: But if you leave this a game and the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, four to one, last five against the Steelers

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Speaker 3: I do think there's a I do hope that there

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Speaker 2: And I hope that that is motivation.

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Speaker 3: We had a lot of guys that are business not

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Speaker 2: I hope. So we need to, and I think, as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're definitely built more like a dome team really, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So you're right, Steelers, good defense, good run game, not

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Speaker 2: But you're right, that's a good counterpoints. I don't want

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Speaker 3: I will though from their perspective it you know, it's

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Speaker 3: They've got to play Philly, Baltimore, Kansas City twice against

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Speaker 2: To sweep us. And you can play the role of spoiler.

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Speaker 2: And there's value in that. There's great value in that,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And if nothing else, Nick Chubb is beloved in

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Speaker 4: And when you see your brother that's you know, in

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Speaker 3: What was when you look back on your career against Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 4: that was way too much forced through these discs. Please

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Speaker 2: That's incredible to see him sprinting.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it'd be this would be a great

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Speaker 3: Did do you have any sense of him coming out

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Speaker 3: of Wisconsin that he would I mean, obviously he wasn't

436
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Speaker 3: the first pick he would have been if anybody would

437
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Speaker 3: have known, but like.

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Speaker 2: That he had right after Nidjoku, I think, right, yeah,

439
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Speaker 2: you knew he was a good player.

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Speaker 4: But I think the big question with him was he's

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Speaker 4: not as big as his brother, and so I think

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Speaker 4: they wondered if his game would translate to the NFL game.

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Speaker 2: Being a smaller guy, it's perfect for he went to

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Speaker 2: the perfect scheme, right, Yeah, he'd have been tough to

445
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Speaker 2: be a four to three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he would have been good as

447
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Speaker 4: like a hand in the dirt guy on every down

448
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Speaker 4: because he's just not big enough really to hold up.

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Speaker 4: But he certainly could have rushed the passer from a

450
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Speaker 4: four to three. But I think three to four really

451
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Speaker 4: fits him a lot better because he can use his

452
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Speaker 4: athleticism and his motor without having to be latched onto

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Speaker 4: a big tackle on every single play, first and second

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Speaker 4: down and where out for third down?

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Speaker 2: Why does he pretty much rush exclusively from against the

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Speaker 2: right tackle? Why do they? Why in their system do

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Speaker 2: you think they do that? And what why? It's obviously

458
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Speaker 2: worked for him quite well, but they're not a team

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Speaker 2: that mixes it around. So you probably against teams Harrison

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Speaker 2: well when he was a rookie. He played on my.

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Speaker 4: Side when he's a rookie, and that was the only

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Speaker 4: time I played against him.

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Speaker 2: Kaiser's that's right.

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Speaker 4: But I think that they realized that the matchups, especially

465
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Speaker 4: in the AFC North, were better over the right tackle,

466
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Speaker 4: and you're gonna get a lot more bang for your

467
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Speaker 4: buck if you put your best player against their worst tackle,

468
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Speaker 4: And so they put them over there, and then there

469
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Speaker 4: is something to be said about just leaving him in

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Speaker 4: the same spot. You get better at the same moves,

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Speaker 4: whether you're flipping your hips to the left, if you're

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Speaker 4: playing over the right tackle. I think you just naturally,

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Speaker 4: like anything, like you do the same motor pattern over

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Speaker 4: and over again, you're gonna be able to get just

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Speaker 4: a little bit better rather than if you're flipping sides

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Speaker 4: all the time, and you get a better matchup.

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Speaker 2: He's played five hundred and fifty four of his five

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty snaps against the right tackle. He's played

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Speaker 2: six snaps exactly out of five hundred and sixty against

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Speaker 2: the left hand.

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Speaker 4: And those may have been like some weird formation like

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Speaker 4: tackle over or something, you know, goal line where they're

483
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Speaker 4: just having him beat up a tight end and flopping

484
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Speaker 4: sides or something because they really want him over the

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Speaker 4: right tackle. And that was part of the conversation we

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Speaker 4: had last night at dinner.

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Speaker 2: We were working.

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Speaker 4: It was a work dinner. We were talking about, you know, TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt and why he's such such an impact maker. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 4: like a part of it motor, clearly tremendous motor, wonderful

491
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Speaker 4: body balance, ability to use your hands. He's like a

492
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Speaker 4: wrestler where he can feel He's very violent, but he

493
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Speaker 4: also can kind of feel which way the tackle is leaning.

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Speaker 4: He always has a great jump. You know, he's one

495
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Speaker 4: of the guys that gets a few false starts, but

496
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Speaker 4: like a von Miller, those guys that, hey, they're trying

497
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Speaker 4: to find whatever that key is, whether it's the center's

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Speaker 4: feet or the quarterback's hands or the lean of the tackle,

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Speaker 4: and they're gonna go and they're jumping in it, especially

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Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. And I think that's part of

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Speaker 4: why he's such a good closers. He's going against the

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Speaker 4: lesser of the two tackles typically and he's getting a

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Speaker 4: great jump and it makes it really really hard.

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Speaker 2: On a tackle.

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Speaker 3: Do you know that what was one year and exactly

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Speaker 3: two days ago was our win against them? Here, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's dtr against Pickett. That's the great Jim Donovan breaking

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Speaker 3: the guitar.

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Speaker 2: Megan sent me a picture of the post game. Do

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Speaker 2: you remember that give where we had a PBJ. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was, yeah, very special one year and

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Speaker 2: two days ago.

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Speaker 3: And think about all that has changed in you know,

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Speaker 3: in that timeframe. So here we are again for the

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Speaker 3: for the matchup in full caps, the whole thing, our

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Speaker 3: offense versus their defense, Their defense versus our offense, who's

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Speaker 3: the act factor tonight for the Browns defense? Which corner

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Speaker 3: matches up with George Pickens? How should the Browns go

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Speaker 3: about defending him? What makes Pittsburgh's run games so effective?

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Speaker 3: Nase or Jay time?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm giving it all. These are questions you need

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Speaker 2: to answer. I'm going to but one at a time.

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Speaker 2: You pick which question? One at a time?

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Speaker 3: What I'm gonna go off script? What scares you most?

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Speaker 3: What makes you nervy our defense versus their offense? You

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Speaker 3: were not pleased with what you saw in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: specifically for US against New Orleans. What does Pittsburgh do

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Speaker 3: that gives you anxiety?

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Speaker 2: If you are Jim Schwartz, Well, two things they do,

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Speaker 2: the two things that gave us big problems last week.

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Speaker 2: Right First is they have a physical running game led

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Speaker 2: by Naji Harris at six one two forty two. And

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Speaker 2: then they've got Jalen Warren who can take into the

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Speaker 2: houses he did against US last year for seventy four yards.

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Speaker 2: So I'm concerned about stopping their running game. Matching the physicality.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna come out in twelve personnel, and they are,

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Speaker 2: you know, not huge across the line, they're big across

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Speaker 2: the line. But then they're gonna come out with two

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Speaker 2: different tight ends, one who's six ' five two sixty

560
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Speaker 2: and the other who's six seven two sixty five. So

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Speaker 2: we have to match that physicality. So that's one. Two

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Speaker 2: is you gotta be worried about Pickens getting deep. Pickens

563
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Speaker 2: right now fourth in the NFL and receiving yards, first

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Speaker 2: Steeler player in the top four and receiving yard since

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Speaker 2: Antonio Brown in twenty seventeen. Uh. And then it's his

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Speaker 2: ability to get down the field and make plays outside

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Speaker 2: the numbers. Seventy one percent of his targets are outside

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Speaker 2: the numbers. Browns are second worst in the NFL, allowing

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Speaker 2: nine yards per attempt on throws outside the numbers in

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Speaker 2: the league. So I'm concerned about that, the combination of

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Speaker 2: the ground game and then big plays, because big plays

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Speaker 2: have undone this defense each of the last two games.

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Speaker 3: If I if I just showed you, it was a

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Speaker 3: great job out of you.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. Listen, I know exactly what's going on. When

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Speaker 2: I text, I can't hear anything. You know I had

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Speaker 2: you're dealing. This is what I said.

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Speaker 3: This is the last line of the text. Honey, I'm

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Speaker 3: doing a Brown Steeler game day show.

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Speaker 2: We'll sort it out at three. We can figure it

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Speaker 2: out later. Yeah all right, or it'll be just fine.

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Speaker 3: But that's what from this time, this is when I

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Speaker 3: do this. Yeah, it's well known. You look spectacular today.

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Speaker 3: You look spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Is that what scares you from? To me, it's it's

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Speaker 2: shot plays, chunk plays that have been a problem and

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Speaker 2: then just matching at the end of the game last week.

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Speaker 2: What troubled me the most was I felt like, for

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Speaker 2: whatever the reason may be, we did not match the

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Speaker 2: physicality of Taysom Hill and the Saints on the ground.

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Speaker 4: That's what you worry about, right coming off of a

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Speaker 4: game last week where second half I don't think we

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Speaker 4: played against the run very well, gave up a lot

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Speaker 4: of big runs that we should not have, and that

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Speaker 4: comes down to effort physicality, and I'm worried that that

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Speaker 4: could hurt us again in the second half unless there

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Speaker 4: was a come to Jesus moment during the week here

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Speaker 4: the short week coming up to Thursday, from the coaching

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Speaker 4: staff to the players, like, hey, guys, this is not

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Speaker 4: acceptable what we saw last week. And if you want

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Speaker 4: to beat this Steelers team, which is much more physical

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Speaker 4: than the Saints team. You got to bring the effort

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Speaker 4: and you got to bring the hard hat on every

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Speaker 4: single play.

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Speaker 2: That's why we were talking about earlier. This team owes

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Speaker 2: it to themselves and the fans to kind of match

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Speaker 2: that intensity in that physicality. And then this team has

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Speaker 2: something that the Saints don't have. Alva kamaras sensational. Don't

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Speaker 2: get me wrong, he's great, but stylistically he's more of

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Speaker 2: a physical runner too, kind of like not as big

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Speaker 2: as tastim but in this case, you've got nause and

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Speaker 2: then you've got Jalen Warren and Jalen Warren over the

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Speaker 2: last four games averaging seventy five total yards a game.

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Speaker 2: They're getting him involved in, so they kind of have

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Speaker 2: that thunder beat you up where you down and then

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Speaker 2: I'll kind of here comes Jalen Warren, fresh as a

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Speaker 2: daisy and he can take any run to the house.

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Speaker 2: What do you.

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Speaker 3: Attribute what you saw last Sunday too? From the defense?

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Speaker 4: I think it was recognizing the situation you're in from

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Speaker 4: a win loss standpoint, and the game starting to get

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Speaker 4: away from you, and then guys starting to give a

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Speaker 4: little bit less effort and hustle than you need to

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Speaker 4: to be effective on defense. I think human nature plays

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Speaker 4: into that a little bit, where without it's not a

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Speaker 4: team meeting they had that said, hey, let's take care

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Speaker 4: of ourselves here down the stretch and not layer of

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Speaker 4: bodies on the line. But that's what you saw happening

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Speaker 4: there towards the end of the game last week.

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Speaker 2: What I think is what I guess.

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Speaker 3: The other thing I was curious about is like, our

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Speaker 3: offense has scored twenty points once all year, worse than

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Do you worry about a you're not doing

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Speaker 3: your job? I mean, do you worry about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You get some of that sometimes I think, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder because it's like they haven't been as

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Speaker 3: good as they worry year ago. But obviously offensively we're

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Speaker 3: not anywhere near where we were s.

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Speaker 2: Twenty point two once.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one time. So you just wonder if it's like, man,

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Speaker 3: you guys can move it up and down the field.

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Speaker 3: We can't make kicks. We've got fourteen points? Like how

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Speaker 3: much defense you want us to play?

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Speaker 2: By the way, guys, something to keep an eye on. Tonight.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers two and two when their opponent scores first.

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Speaker 2: So let's take the ball Steelers one and two this

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Speaker 2: year when their opponent scores twenty. That also means that

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Speaker 2: in seven of their ten games, the opponent has failed

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Speaker 2: to reach twenty points. Well, we'll put right undefeated. Well,

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Speaker 2: how about it, we can't. We can't fit right in,

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Speaker 2: fit right in. We'll be fine. Huge sample size there too.

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Speaker 2: On that time you get when you can find a

653
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Speaker 2: stat like I had to look on there, you know

654
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: they're our record. When these are the only two things

655
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: where they had both losses in the same situation. Was

656
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: it they didn't score first and the opponent score twenty?

657
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: So I mean pretty much score first and score twenty

658
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: dangerously specific. We'll be shooting for that today. We don't

659
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: even need the keys of the game anymore. We just

660
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: gave you score first, score first, and get the twenty points.

661
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: How to do it doesn't matter. Just worry about Just

662
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: do it. Don't worry about it.

663
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: All right, Let's flip it. Let's do our offense against

664
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: their defense. Their defense is extraordinary. One thing that has

665
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: been different since Jameis Winston has been the quarterback is

666
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: a fearlessness which he possesses to throw the ball down

667
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: the field. Everybody across the board is better statistically when

668
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: he's been the quarterback, he hasn't important in the course

669
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: of his career, has a propensity to throw it to

670
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: the other team. They will make you do that. We

671
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: do not have Duan Jones in this game. Jed Wills

672
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: is not going to play in this game either, and

673
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: the good news from that side is they won't have

674
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: High Smith, but they still will have TJ.

675
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: Watt.

676
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: How do you think Ken Dorsey and this offense will

677
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: attempt to attack the Steelers defense this game?

678
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: There is so much pressure on this line, Jack Contlin

679
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 2: last week, hadn't I Bob would imagine by his own

680
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: aments struggled a little bit against New Orleans. You have

681
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: a sack and five pressure season highs on both counts.

682
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 2: So he's gonna get tested by TJ. Watt and then

683
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: on the other side, her big and I'm guessing Preston

684
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: Smith will be working against Jermaineafetti. Now. Jermainnafetti last started

685
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: a game in twenty twenty one as a member of

686
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. Yes, he is a former first round pick.

687
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: He's got eighty three starts under his belt in his

688
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: hundred and ten game career. But that's gonna be a

689
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: big matchup for the Browns, and so giving Jamis time

690
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: is going to be critical. Protecting him is going to

691
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: be critical. And then you've got to get some push

692
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: in the ground game as well, and that's something we

693
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: haven't done much of, and that's a big front. I

694
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: got Larryogun, Joby Cannho Benton, and Cam Hayward's playing phenomenal football,

695
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: but I think the line is so important. And then

696
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: I came across something that was hard for me to believe,

697
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: but it turns out that it is true. This is

698
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: gonna be the first game for Jamis Winston in his

699
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: career against the Steelers. That is true. Yeah, one of

700
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: the three teams he has never faced. Miami and the

701
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Jets are the others. That's pretty wild set. So he's

702
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: never faced the Steelers team. I was getting looking in

703
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: there in my notes and then obviously that I checked

704
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: watched the one game and the tape backed it up.

705
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: Seventy five percent middle of the field closed. They are

706
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: going to play single high as much as anybody impact

707
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: the most. Yeah. In the NFL, thirty percent cover one,

708
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: forty five percent cover three. They are going to have

709
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: single high. They are basically what that means. They basically

710
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: play man on the outside with Joey Porter Junior and

711
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: Dante Jackson, and we have got to win those one

712
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: on ones on the outside. It's just that simple, because

713
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: that's going to be the crux of the passing game.

714
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Protection and then on the outside, one on one, single high.

715
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: They don't play much shell. They don't even they'll do

716
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: that a handful of times. I mean about as little

717
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: as anybody in the league. Ten percent between cover two,

718
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: Cover four, and Cover six, that's twenty percent. That's it.

719
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: They don't really disguise. They say this is what we're doing.

720
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: If they do disguise, it's from open to closed. But

721
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: it's basically middlefield closed, single high safety. Sometimes the Minka

722
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: come down in Rome, try to pick you off, read

723
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback, and then I'm man a man on the outside.

724
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: We gotta win on the outside, haf How do you

725
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: As we were going through that and you were talking

726
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: about how they didid this the same thing when you played,

727
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: They've basically been doing the same thing.

728
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 4: Exactly what I was thinking when Ze was saying that stuff.

729
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: I was like, Yeah, we played the Steelers, it was

730
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: cover three, cover one, hardly ever four, almost never two.

731
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: Like that's just who they were. They would play Cover

732
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: three if they were going to zone blitz, Cover one

733
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: if they were going to send a little bit more

734
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: and man blitz. Otherwise they were going to just make

735
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: you go the long, hard way down the field because

736
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: they had that good front, so they were tough to

737
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: run against. They always had the gaps fundamentally sound covered,

738
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: and they had the players and the physicality to do it.

739
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: And they said, try to beat us the one area

740
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: you could maybe occasionally attack them.

741
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: As with your tight end. So it just had some

742
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: good games. Could them potentially have a big game.

743
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: Because it's a good matchup I think with him versus

744
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: the safeties, but also him in holes in the zone

745
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: coverage because like you said, they're not going to trick you.

746
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: You You're going to know where the ball should go.

747
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: It's just going to be tight.

748
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: Coverage because of that. It's really a five man front

749
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: I've always thought it. And they get those guys out

750
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: there so wide and they set that edge so effectively

751
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: that it's it's really hard to run outside zone against them.

752
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: We've never really had a lot of success running outside

753
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: zone except for twenty fourteen, which was my first game

754
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: on sideline, when we were down bigly and like ran

755
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: our way back into the game under Kyle. But that's

756
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: other than that, we really have not been able to

757
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: get that run game going again.

758
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: They got a little smarter after we gashed him in

759
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: that season, really, I mean because the second time we

760
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: played him that year as well, held him at home,

761
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: smoked him again because they were playing in a very

762
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: traditional three four where they were just reading your blockers

763
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: and so they weren't really finding the ball, and so

764
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 4: if you would go to reach them, they would immediately

765
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: run sideways. And so we knew, hey, let's just get

766
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: them running sideways as fast as they can. And then

767
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: they're running so quickly to hold their gap that they're

768
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: not even seeing where the ball is getting cut. But

769
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: now they'll they'll jump into more four down, they'll penetrate

770
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: a little bit more and do things to try to

771
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: take away some of that outside zone, because if you

772
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: just run sideways against the outside zone, that's the worst

773
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: thing you can possibly do.

774
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: It's a wild thing because as we're talking about this,

775
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: I can't think of another team in the NFL that's

776
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: run the exact same thing for forty thirty years. Yeah,

777
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like, did Cower bring this, probably like Dick Lebau.

778
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm assuming it was Lebau, but that was well before

779
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: my time. Greg Lloyd and Kevin Green, Yeah, same thing

780
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: thirty four in the in the nineties and then Begets.

781
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: It's one after another after another running the same stuff.

782
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: They always have a dude at safety, whether it's Palamola

783
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: and now they got makeup. I mean, they've always got

784
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: a dude there. They've always got pretty good corners, and

785
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: they they come after you.

786
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: And I just think of that physical linebackers, very physical linebackers, bangers, bangers,

787
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: and also guys who can rush Woodley right, Lamar Woodley.

788
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: Fair linebacker like it was and but they you think

789
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: about that from a building a franchise perspective.

790
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: You're drafting to this, you know what you're looking for totally.

791
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: Because you've been looking for it for thirty years. So

792
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: they can draft them develop them. It all looks the same.

793
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: I mean, if you've got guys that are mid round,

794
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: late round draft picks that take a few years to develop,

795
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: you're like, it's okay, we got time like, fine, no problem,

796
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: learn the system. When you're ready, you go in there,

797
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: and they don't ask them to do a lot of things.

798
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 4: They ask them to play hard, to play physical, and

799
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: to play your gap. And that's an easy thing for

800
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: professional athletes to do. After you've been around long enough

801
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: to see all the looks in practice and watch it

802
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: on film, that when it is time to go out

803
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: there and play your role, they know how to play

804
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: the role atally.

805
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: Far much more of a college approach than an NFL approach.

806
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: You know what, It became system the whole way.

807
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: You know why they've kept the same system because it's good.

808
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: Should they win this week, it will cement their twenty

809
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: first straight non losing season. Wrap your head around that.

810
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: It's amazing. That would be, by the way, the longest

811
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: streak in the league's history. Tied for that with the

812
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys from nineteen sixty five to nineteen eighty five,

813
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: and they are ahead of the Patriots at from two

814
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: thousand and one to twenty nineteen when they had nineteen straight.

815
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: This will be their twenty first straight non losing season.

816
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin seventeen of those.

817
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's their model of consistency.

818
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: Well, that's why, you know, that's an old saying. If

819
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's what they do.

820
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: That's what they do, is that broke. No, No, quite well,

821
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: working quite well. Good, it's pretty good.

822
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,759
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Speaker 3: for a little segment we like to call over or under.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Gibbe, gentlemen, Happy Thursday. Yeah, Thanksgiving A week from today.

842
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm back at it. Look Gibbe got the better last week.

843
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: This has been really a battle seesaw battle all year. No,

844
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: you're right. The week before, two weeks before, you smoked

845
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: Tim for one one four. Last week nobody asked about

846
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 2: two weeks ago.

847
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: Sorry, my fault, goose. Last week we're inverted and it's uh,

848
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: it's for one for Z and one and four for give.

849
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: And then this most recent week it was two and

850
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: three for.

851
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: Z because he takes some hill at the end. We

852
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: could have just stopped him. They knew were trying to

853
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: run the clock out with you. Now he crying to

854
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: the house. What house doesn't care? I will tell you

855
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: whoa that felt personal. It's all off to the whole.

856
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: It's all personal, all person, the thief of my joy.

857
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna have to do a live amendment.

858
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm going it doesn't even matter, won't affect it. Twenty

859
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: five right, Huh, he's twenty six up.

860
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: Now he's forty six out of forty five, and you're

861
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: forty five and forty six on the year.

862
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Twenty five and yes,

863
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: twenty five, he's twenty six. Up, I'm twenty five up.

864
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, correct, yep, all right, uh passing attempts, Gibe,

865
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: we will start with you passing attempts for Russell Wilson tonight,

866
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: twenty three point five. Twenty three point five in the muck,

867
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 3: I'm going over. I amended this number for weather conditions.

868
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: I initially had this much higher, but I just think

869
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: it's going to be a little lower. He's been over

870
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: twenty eight the last five weeks.

871
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 6: He had one in the game that we're all supposed

872
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 6: to see, run run, run from both sides. This is

873
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 6: where things go a little hay wire.

874
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: You're still throw over. Weird things happen. You're over, Yeah,

875
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: all right, it's over. Over over half. I'm going to

876
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: make a half.

877
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: Amendment over here. Half standings over here. Half is going

878
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: over as well. Would you have gone over twenty eight

879
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: point five? No, that was my original number. Maybe I'd

880
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: made it too big. Twenty six would have been the

881
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: right number. That made you guys think twenty five.

882
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, twenty six and a half. I'm worried about

883
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: this weather. All right, here we go, You are I

884
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: am James going to be warm? I haven't. Yeah.

885
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: Well, and some of us some better than others, better

886
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: than others. Jamis passing yards, doc to z. He's been

887
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 3: a machine. Two seventy five point five.

888
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: Under, very high for the weather and the rainy, snowy.

889
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they also know that they're going to need

890
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: to establish the run to have balance, because they can't

891
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: just let the defensive line for the Steelers pin their

892
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 4: ears back and rush the quarterback the whole time.

893
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers got a two hundred and fourteen a game

894
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: under as well. Yeah, that's a high number. It could be.

895
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: It could be Thursdays has shook me. A Thursday over

896
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: under has shook me. Uh, next over under?

897
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: All right, again, this one's I wish that I don't

898
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: know on this one. I'm not crazy about what I've

899
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: done here, but we're going to do the best we can,

900
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: all right. Boswell Fantasy points over under PPR. So you

901
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: get the catches to Judy and Tillman against Boswell against Boswell,

902
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: and I'm going to throw in more.

903
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: There, kicker, or you get their three receivers and in

904
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: versus our three receivers. That's right, fantasy. I want our

905
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: three receivers tonight. So over better you got under? You

906
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: want under? Under Boswell Under it's got to be Boswell

907
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: and like Pickens against. I don't think it's.

908
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: Boswell and Pickens though, dude, Okay, so he's gonna get

909
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: he's gonna hit four field goals.

910
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: That's one.

911
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: That's twelve, that's right. All I had and yards Judy

912
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: and I on the PPR standard no PPR yards, no

913
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: catches yards, so you get yards and touchdowns no PPR.

914
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: I still think he needs I still he needs Pickens.

915
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to do Pickens. I think that's too much, dude.

916
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: How about how about Williams? No, give them Pickens and

917
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: give our side Najoko. So it's basically Boswell and Pickens against.

918
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: Judi but no, no more so then what about Judy

919
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: Tillman Moore he the joking.

920
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: Well, then I think that feels like us. I think

921
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: it's right now. But now if it's standard twelve, I

922
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: think I think that's I.

923
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: Think it's fine the way Pickens and Boswell again over

924
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: under Judy Tillman more standard sandypr.

925
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah more Okay, So no joker, no no cheat.

926
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 3: So Steelers are Browns, Boswell Pickens Standard versus Tillman Judy Moore.

927
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 6: I'm going with our guys. Come on, Browns, we got

928
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 6: to move the ball at some point, We've got to

929
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 6: make a play.

930
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm going them in the name of reverse jinks because

931
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: I feel like if we win that one, I feel

932
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: pretty good about our ability. Well you're gonna yeah, yeah,

933
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: I think so. Huh.

934
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 4: I'm voting present because now I'm just confused as conversations

935
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: that you guys.

936
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: Have had up normally the over unders on a Friday

937
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: and have a little more time to prepare than I

938
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 3: had forgotten about it. So I'll go with our guys

939
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: statistically break presents I normally would. So I appreciate Zee

940
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: forgiving me the the little bit of help there.

941
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: Get you great, big b.

942
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: Next overunder this one is to you doctors. The sacks, interceptions,

943
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: fumbles accumulated by our defense.

944
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: Uh, we are gonna go three and a half over

945
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: over over, Let's go. I think Gibb as playing a

946
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 2: lot of decent He's doing.

947
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: Well, and also maybe reverse jinks on his true love

948
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: could be that too, because this is a lot of

949
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: Browns heavy stuff.

950
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 6: He's hope you enjoyed the cream because it's not gonna

951
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 6: look like that by the time we're done.

952
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: Oh boy, you want me to wear a black and

953
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 3: gold on Cleveland Browns Daily?

954
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: Is that what you suggested? Get some grape juice. I

955
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: don't know what's so crazy about what he just said. Yeah,

956
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna get some grape juice. If I was wearing that,

957
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: He's like, it's gonna be stayed with your blood for you.

958
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna sure, I'm gonna scort some grape

959
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: juice on them. There, don't worry about it. He's a

960
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh fan. Even Kev's on keV don't like this your

961
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: last day?

962
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 6: This ain't it?

963
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: This ain't it today day? Your last day? Here?

964
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: Uh?

965
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: Next over under, it's the actual it's thirty six and

966
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: a half, Gibbe.

967
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 6: I had been debating this all morning. I was thinking

968
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 6: about what your number was going to be. I will

969
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 6: take the under that number, all right, you're going under? Yeah,

970
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 6: you said thirty six, thirty six and a half, Yeah, under,

971
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 6: doctor Zee. I feel like based on your other picks, Gibby,

972
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 6: it almost has to be over.

973
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: Definitely does. But that's okay, covering all the bases here kids,

974
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: covering them all. I don't know. I don't want to

975
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: see it thirteen to ten games. I think that favorite.

976
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things that Z does is if

977
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: you you you almost always picked the over because you

978
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: want it's the life, you want more fun.

979
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: And you even if it. How many times is he

980
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: gone under this year? Though?

981
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

982
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: Actually, last week you did, yeah, and the week before

983
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: you did. Actually, you're right, give a last two times

984
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: you've gone under?

985
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have gone made fun from a box. That's true. Yeah,

986
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: because you went over both. Yeah, and you guys split them.

987
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: Where are you at? Buddy over over haf under Hoff

988
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: goes under? All right, there you go.

989
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: You're overs and your unders coming up at the top

990
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: of the hour. Siciliano's going to join the fun. You

991
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00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Keep it Twisted. Cleveland is a play by play voice

1003
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliano joining us. There you guys.

1004
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: You guys had a nice little time last night. Everybody

1005
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: had a nice meal, some nice veno perhaps as well. Fellowship, fellowship,

1006
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: some brotherhood.

1007
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy yourself?

1008
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 5: And there was hull rock uh and there was good food. Yeah,

1009
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 5: he's he's a hell of a chef. Has always heard

1010
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 5: of the legend and I always hear on Monday morning

1011
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: that Nathan made that game. Hopefully Bron's wins. Actually beautiful home.

1012
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Well, ma'am, Yeah, it had a great time. It's glorious.

1013
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: You got the best meat stick in Ohio. I love it.

1014
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I love the idea of a meat stick.

1015
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: Did you see v it all? So? Yeah, So I

1016
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: had the lamb in one bag and then I had

1017
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: two rebbis, the strip and the filet and the other bags.

1018
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: So suvie because we didn't know exactly when you have to,

1019
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: it's the only way you could do it. We didn't

1020
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: know when he was going to arrive from from Columbus,

1021
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: and they're necessary pit stops and detours and whatnot, so

1022
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: we had have everything. We had have some flexibility in

1023
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: our meats.

1024
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: You have to, and that's what the suv Little Joe

1025
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: still working all these years, still does great jobs.

1026
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: And the asparagus was phenomenal. Solad was great. Everything was great.

1027
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 5: And the ice cream lived up to the billing. You

1028
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 5: you sold cream seemingly hours and it actually lived up

1029
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 5: to the advanced them.

1030
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 2: That's right. Mouthfeel of this ice cream is off the charts.

1031
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 2: You keep going back to the mouthfeel on it because

1032
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: you can kind of chew into it, but then it's

1033
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: also like creamy way.

1034
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: Yet we we said the name of it about it

1035
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: three weeks ago and then sold out every sold out everywhere,

1036
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: and we couldn't get it, and I still hadn't had it.

1037
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: I've gone out of my way to various grocers that

1038
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 3: I know carry it, and every time I get there, they.

1039
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: Were invited for. I know I had. It's fine. I

1040
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: had youth hoops, yea hoops.

1041
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: But the U I've gone out of my way thirty

1042
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: five minutes many times looking for the specific flavor to

1043
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: Heights Baby.

1044
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: Well, now that's out. It's not out. I don't even

1045
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. Nobody does. Well, I hope

1046
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: not the brownie batter that's what he's talking about. Brian,

1047
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: Did you prefer the brownie batter hof or the other?

1048
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: Which one?

1049
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: I like the bananas Foster now, yeah, it's the best,

1050
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 4: a unique ice cream flavor. I don't think I've had that.

1051
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: Before in the way that they like crunch up some

1052
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: like Mila wafers, and you almost get the sense that

1053
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: you're getting like some of that with like a lot of.

1054
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: Build up, and it's my favorite. Banana desserts are my favorite.

1055
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: So this is waiting, all right, Andrew. We talked a

1056
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: lot this week about there's almost a collegiate approach we

1057
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: hope from our team this week from the standpoint of

1058
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: playing the role of spoiler and delivering on a Thursday

1059
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: night for the fans, for themselves, for all of it.

1060
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 3: It's not gonna make everything that's gone wrong this season better,

1061
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: but at the same time, it can be a little

1062
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: bit of a band aid on it. Do you think

1063
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: you will see that effort tonight down on the lake.

1064
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 5: I think so. I hope so, I really really really

1065
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 5: want to see it happen. Few cliches and say you

1066
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 5: throw the records out. We know that the Browns have

1067
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 5: enough talent to win this game. Yes, regardless of records.

1068
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 5: I'll go back there. And we also know that, you know,

1069
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 5: history actually favors well, they have played at home on

1070
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 5: Thursday nights, how poorly the Steelers generally play on Thursday Nights,

1071
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 5: the fact that three out of the last four years

1072
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 5: they've split with the Steelers overall, the fact they have

1073
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: winning streak going the Browns do on Thursday night, the

1074
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 5: fact that Thursday night always favors the home team, even

1075
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 5: if one team is driving as opposed to hopping on

1076
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 5: an airplane. Yes, I think they have a lot of

1077
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 5: things going in their favor. And how about the short

1078
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 5: rest thing. For short rest, They've won five straight games

1079
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 5: the Browns have on short rest, whether that's Thursday, Sunday, Monday, whenever.

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00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 5: So yes, I think there's their favorite today be saying

1081
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 5: it though it is one thing that I'm doing, it

1082
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 5: is another.

1083
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 2: This weather. How do you see this impacting this game?

1084
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: And who do you think the weather situation ultimately favors.

1085
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 5: The Browns can roll the football, It favors the team

1086
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: that runs the football better. I'm looking out the window

1087
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 5: right now, the sun through. I keep looking at my phone,

1088
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 5: and the weather at keep saying it's kind of snow. Guys.

1089
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: I felt, all right, we're gonna put Andrew on hold

1090
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: for just a second and then we're going to reconnect.

1091
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: I thought we're gonna get through it.

1092
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: I thought we were through the bumpy waters stabilized, and

1093
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: then then sometimes not. From what I understand, Andrew has

1094
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: the entire top floor of the team hotel to himself

1095
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: is the way that I understand. So hopefully he gets

1096
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: to a corner of there that works so well. It

1097
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 3: feels appropriate, yeah, it says it should be. So hopefully

1098
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: he can relocate and get a stabilized phone line there.

1099
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: Right now.

1100
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: Now we don't have a correspondent on the lake, but

1101
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: right now it looks fine.

1102
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: Right now, it looks pretty good. We'll see, though, they said,

1103
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: as the hof said it earlier, it's going to come

1104
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: kind of before the kick, go away and then come

1105
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: back perhaps during the game.

1106
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 3: But all right, let's see if we get Andrew back.

1107
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 3: Go ahead now, Bud, you were cutting out on us

1108
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: a little bit there. Your weather report, if you will, sir.

1109
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 5: Well too, trafficking weather on the one. Hopefully this sounds.

1110
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: Better looking at the wet Yeah, you're downtown.

1111
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 5: The sun is fighting through the clouds. My magic weather

1112
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 5: app on my phone keeps saying that it's snowing.

1113
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: It isn't.

1114
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 5: I saw flurry this morning. It says it's going to

1115
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 5: snow tonight. I'm not trying to doubt that. I would say,

1116
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 5: so far, so good. I'd rather have snow than rain, certainly.

1117
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 5: I know Jerrod would like rain rather snow rather than

1118
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 5: rain as well. I think is a bigger factor tonight,

1119
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 5: not not precipitation. Dustin Hopkins has poured straight from fifty.

1120
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: We could get wins Gus like thirty miles an hour.

1121
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 5: To me, that is a far bigger factor.

1122
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: The wind always is, and especially right now. We're a

1123
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: Browns team, you know that more so than the Steelers.

1124
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: We rely on the pass to produce our offense. With

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00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston at quarterback, and you know our kicker is

1126
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: struggling right now. Dustin Hopkins, there's most certainly is not.

1127
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: He's made nine straight from fifty plus. Uh, He's twenty

1128
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: nine of thirty on the year, leads the league and

1129
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: field goals made, leads the league in points, all of it.

1130
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: He's been pretty good. Yeah. I think it's it's going

1131
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: to be an interesting one. I'm with you, though. I

1132
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: think it comes down to which team can be the

1133
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: most physical at the point of attach. And he would

1134
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: say on paper that probably does favor the Steelers, but

1135
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: that's why they play the games. They're not played on paper.

1136
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: How important to you is it that the Browns can

1137
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: stop that ground game and then at least provide protection

1138
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: for Jamis against this kind of milk a field closed man,

1139
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: a man on the outside defense of the Steelers and

1140
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 2: create some running names for Nick Chubb.

1141
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love if they ran the ball and Jamis

1142
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: wouldn't have to drop back forty times. The other thing too,

1143
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 5: whether it's Jamis or whether it's Chubb or Ford or

1144
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 5: Pierre Strong or or whomever, this team is coming for

1145
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 5: the foot the football.

1146
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: Well carrier.

1147
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 5: Same goes for Wilson the report are obviously had a

1148
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: big away. This team attacks the football. Yes they're plus

1149
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 5: eleven and turnover margin, but this defense will actively try

1150
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 5: to take it from you. I think on the flip

1151
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: side of that, guys, if Russell Wilson is going to

1152
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 5: do that run around in circles, worly words stuff all afternoon,

1153
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 5: then Miles has got to get to him and he's

1154
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 5: got to get the ball out at the strip sack

1155
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 5: last week and car fell out of les, get on it.

1156
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 5: Wilson first half second half was a different quarterback this

1157
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 5: past week against the Ravens. First half he took forever

1158
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 5: in the pocket. He was reading a book back there,

1159
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: and even when he was, in fact, he was getting

1160
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: hit in the back when he threw it because he

1161
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 5: as soon as they started after the halt, he was

1162
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 5: getting that all fast as humanly possible. If the Browns

1163
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 5: get first half from last week, Russell, I think they

1164
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 5: could force a turnover to and that would be huge.

1165
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: Buddy, have a great call tonight. It's always special where

1166
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: you're the voice on a Brown Steelers game. Enjoy it

1167
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: tonight and hopefully we get a win. So it has

1168
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: a little bit better tone to it. Look forward to

1169
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: the call tonight, my friend, and thank you for your time.

1170
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 5: And hopefully it sounds better than my cell phone.

1171
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well I think we need it even at

1172
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: the top floor suite at the hotel. Maybe we need

1173
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: to make sure that there's always a lamblin.

1174
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels that's gotcha.

1175
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 5: I love that.

1176
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know your demands, I know it goes. So

1177
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: there you go.

1178
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: There's your Andrew Z and Gerard will be on the

1179
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: call tonight between the Browns and the Steelers. Browns fans

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Speaker 3: Your forecast for tonight Hunting and bake Field kickoff thirty

1195
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: eight snow, eleven mile an hour wins.

1196
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: You want the elements, you're getting them. Kids would be

1197
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: great in a dome with you, It would be just awesome.

1198
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: Luckily soon I feel like half such a wilderman that

1199
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: he's probably such a purist and we're over here, like now,

1200
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: let's God even be in the dome.

1201
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: No, I think he answered his own question earlier when

1202
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: you said the if you have the most talent, Yeah,

1203
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: you want you want eliminate the variables.

1204
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: Eliminate the variable absolutely, That's that's kind of the thing.

1205
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: What where? How did you view a game like this

1206
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: forecast wise? Was there an excitement for it or was

1207
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: there there was? Yeah?

1208
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: For me though, because I don't have to catch the football.

1209
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: As you get slipperier conditions and things are more challenging,

1210
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: you probably throw the ball a little bit less and

1211
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: the defense has a little less speed. You know, they're

1212
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 4: clearly the better athletes than we are, So anything we

1213
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: can do to level the playing field by making it

1214
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: sloppy and slowing them down got me excited because it

1215
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 4: was gonna be a little bit easier of a day.

1216
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: Was there a like what did you do pregame, like

1217
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: in terms of cleats, cleat length, all of that, Like,

1218
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: what was that process like?

1219
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: Did you kind of know?

1220
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1221
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 4: I can only remember a couple of times in my career,

1222
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 4: and that was early on where I would have to

1223
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: go to like the detachable or like the longer cleats.

1224
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: But that was before the surface got more uniform now

1225
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 4: where they put the sand in the field, and so

1226
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 4: you rarely ever have a grass field nowadays that's really slippery.

1227
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: I mean the way that they have it drained, with

1228
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: all the sand they put in the field and the

1229
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: drainage underneath. Even in a really wet game, almost all

1230
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 4: grass fields are going to be pretty firm and you

1231
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 4: don't really need to go to the longer cleats.

1232
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: Interesting, was the Buffalo game here the worst conditions you

1233
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: ever played in? Yeah? Yeah, the snowbowl snow seven inches

1234
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 2: of snow.

1235
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had the long cleats on there, just because

1236
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 4: they were collecting so much snow on the bottom that

1237
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: you needed a little longer, so it took more time

1238
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 4: for the snow to cover up all your cleats. Was

1239
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 4: there one increase at Wisconsin or in high school that

1240
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: you remember that was absurd? When we played our state

1241
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 4: championship at Camp Randall, they had turf, so it didn't

1242
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 4: really affect that, but it was snowing and cold, and

1243
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 4: I remember being very very cold. But I think the

1244
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 4: worst field conditions that i'd played at when when we'd

1245
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: go to Soldier Field late in the year and then

1246
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 4: to the Steelers, because they play all those pit games

1247
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 4: and at the time, they didn't have very good drainage

1248
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 4: on their field, and so even though they would have

1249
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 4: it covered up, a lot of times it was beat

1250
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: up from the day before from the pit game, and

1251
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 4: then you're getting all this rain and snow and stuff

1252
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: on top of it, and the field just doesn't have

1253
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: time to recover and then it's just very so saturated.

1254
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: Well, didn't they also play the Pennsylvania high school football championships?

1255
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: They might too.

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01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: I think that's like the Steelers they are at Soldier Field,

1257
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 4: the Bears, I think they play some high school games

1258
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 4: stuff there.

1259
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always the challenge too.

1260
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, how many things can you play

1261
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 3: you want on a dome?

1262
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 6: A do?

1263
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: Did you guys remember that? I think it was a

1264
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: Monday night game. It was Steelers versus like Ravens.

1265
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: This would have been like two thousand and seven, and

1266
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 4: they were just getting pummeled with rain and the I

1267
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: forget who punted, but the ball went up in the

1268
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 4: air and it hit the ground and.

1269
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: It didn't bounce. It got stuck in the mud. In

1270
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: the mud. Yeah, all right, see you ready, he's to

1271
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: the game, doctor Z number one. I think we've established it.

1272
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: Score first, number two, score twenty No. But you've got

1273
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: to we have got to in the past game. We've

1274
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: got to protect and we've got to win our one

1275
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: on ones on the outside against their their cover one,

1276
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: cover three looks. We've got to establish the ground game.

1277
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: We cannot lose the turnover battle, even though last week

1278
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: we won the turnover battle and had a very strange

1279
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: game in terms of our overall production, and to lose

1280
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: in the manner in which we did and then defensively again,

1281
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: I think it's all about the point of attack. You've

1282
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: got to limit Najie Harris and Warrant. You've got to

1283
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: force them into drop back passing. Russ has been very

1284
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: good off of play action and very good throwing the

1285
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: football down the field. Pickens is their big play guy.

1286
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: They also have Mike Williams, but last week he didn't

1287
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 2: even get a target after catching the game winner against Washington.

1288
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: That's kind of who they are. You know, you come

1289
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: out and you say when they pass, the guy that

1290
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: we're the most worried about is Pickens. Picking It has

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and twenty eight yards. Here's what the rest

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Speaker 2: of the receivers on the team have. Van Jefferson won

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Speaker 2: thirty nine, Scotty Miller thirty one, so that's one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy Scronic one catch for four yards, so that's

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy four. Mike Williams has won for

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Speaker 2: thirty two with them, and then Calvin Austin has seventeen

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Speaker 2: for two seventy six, so he has more reception, more

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Speaker 2: receiving yards than everybody else combined. So that's where they

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Speaker 2: throw the ball. Then they got Friar Moose got two

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Speaker 2: ninety five. He's second on the team. You just got

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Speaker 2: to be and we've got to tackle. Man, we have

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Speaker 2: got to tackle because that has been We've double digit

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Speaker 2: mistackles far too often. We have got to tackle and

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Speaker 2: wrap up. And if you don't get the guy down,

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Speaker 2: that's final. Least stand him up and everybody's got to

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Speaker 2: float to the ball and you got to get the

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Speaker 2: guys down. That's gonna be the whole key in this game.

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Speaker 2: We've missed tackles. Najieris is gonna run for hundreds of

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Speaker 2: yards his best. He has more yards rushing against the

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Speaker 2: Browns than any team in his career. He's been great.

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Speaker 2: He's been great against the Brouns. Yeah, all right, there

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 6: Hello gibbe, Hi boys, Let's get right into it because

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Speaker 6: there are a lot of people with questions at Brown's

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Speaker 6: Underscore Daily. Josh co, what is the pillow you guys

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Speaker 6: have talked about? I have neck issues been trying to

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Speaker 6: find a good pillow would be much appreciated.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'm gonna need Z's help on this one because

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Speaker 4: I found it on Amazon. But I think it's called

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Speaker 4: like an orthopedic U if you just search your orthopedic pillow.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to tap dance here as Z finds it

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Speaker 4: in his Amazon orders, But basically what it is is

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Speaker 4: it's like a normal pillow, but then it's got a

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Speaker 4: little topping that's sort of cups your head and it

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Speaker 4: elevates your head and so that fremont is.

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Speaker 2: In alignment with your spine. Fremont cervical memory, foam pillow.

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Speaker 2: Boom nailed it. They're not.

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Speaker 4: It's not like you're spending a hundred bucks on some

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Speaker 4: fancy feather pillow.

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Speaker 2: But it will change.

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Speaker 4: But this changes, It changes your life. I mean, if

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Speaker 4: you wake up with neck pain, like you understand how

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01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 4: nice it is when it's not there.

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Speaker 3: I have been sleeping on it can be debilitating twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two when Off recommended it, and honestly no matter.

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Speaker 3: I sleep primarily on my side.

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Speaker 2: But I will also have I think we bought it

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Speaker 2: the same day.

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Speaker 3: There you go, and I sometimes will flip the stomach

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Speaker 3: or back whatever, and it doesn't matter. I can find

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Speaker 3: a way that it that it helps. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: That's great, Tommy Clay goes. Since we're moving to a

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Speaker 6: dome eventually, it's maybe a mood point. But our cold

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Speaker 6: weather team's permitted to provide metal benches to the opponent

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Speaker 6: as opposed to the heated ones. Similar to the way

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Speaker 6: Miami puts their opponents the sun to give them more

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Speaker 6: of an advantage.

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Speaker 4: So I think you're allowed to put your opponents on

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Speaker 4: whatever sideline you want, but as far as the things

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Speaker 4: that are physically on the sideline, they have to be equal.

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Speaker 4: So if we have heated benches on our side and

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Speaker 4: propaying blow torches, like, you have to provide that for

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Speaker 4: the visitors. I believe it's a rule that seems like

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Speaker 4: a newer thing.

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Speaker 2: Because Miami, but it's not Miami. Does Miami sit on

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Speaker 2: the benches.

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Speaker 4: The air conditioning benches, the visitors do not, And when

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Speaker 4: we played in Miami, they had air conditioning just for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I believe it's a rule. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they definitely throw you in the sun there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a college rule. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to I don't think it's in college.

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Speaker 4: It may have changed, but when I was there, we

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Speaker 4: just had metal benches. They weren't spending the money on us. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a college or not. Try

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Speaker 4: I don't think it is. I think in college, you're

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Speaker 4: kind of Yeah, I don't think it is in college.

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Speaker 4: You know what we did, though, Like in Miami, in Florida,

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Speaker 4: a lot of times they'll put you in the sun.

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Speaker 4: We had sun shades that Joshian and the training staff

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Speaker 4: brought in for us. So at least when you're sitting.

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Speaker 2: On the bench, summer sun wasn't like beating on your

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Speaker 2: face the whole game. It's like thirty degrees difference in

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Speaker 2: that stadium.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's a big difference

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Speaker 4: when you're in Miami.

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Speaker 6: Yeh uh, Brownsbackers North Jersey. Hey, Bo, how can we

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Speaker 6: get college football Nate to join you and copious others

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Speaker 6: as a Heisman voter?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I can. I might be able to

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Speaker 2: help with that. I would be a good Heisman vote.

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Speaker 3: I know the guy who's in charge of Ohio, So

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Speaker 3: I think we might be able to get you on

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Speaker 3: the high even begin to fab.

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Speaker 2: I believe that you would take it very seriously. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: right now? Does it do you vote for that? You

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Speaker 2: just vote one person? Or do you vote one? Two three?

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Speaker 2: All right? So I would go Hunter Genty arch Manning.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's all it says on the ballot is most

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Speaker 3: outstanding player in college football.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're tasked with so I believe Arch has

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Speaker 2: it in them. He certainly seems like he's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have a mess on their hands because

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Speaker 3: if Quinn was kind of.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it a two hoss race?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think so. I think there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of big games left to be played. Like for example,

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Speaker 3: I actually think I can I do a little gambling.

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Speaker 3: I guess I can because I'm not an employee of

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Like I would.

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Speaker 3: Will Howard's like forty thousand to it was like plus

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Speaker 3: forty thousand for Will Howard. He's number one rated quarterback

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Speaker 3: in college football. The second half of the season, He's

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Speaker 3: got Indiana, Michigan, Oregon. If he wins out and completes

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Speaker 3: eighty percent of his passes, it's good value there, It's

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Speaker 3: very good value. But Jeremiah Smith, the freshman receivers, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough,

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Speaker 3: He's outstanding pretty good, and I don't think Will's gonna

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Speaker 3: win it. The same thing I would say with Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 3: like if he beats the Buckeyes a second time, I

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Speaker 3: just think, like in the end, those the thing that

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Speaker 3: I noticed with Heisman voters through the years is the

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Speaker 3: last metric is really important. So if you can be

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Speaker 3: we have a chance to play a showcase game at

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Speaker 3: the end when everybody's watching, and Travis Hunter may have

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Speaker 3: the chance to do that, of Colorado can get into

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Speaker 3: the Big twelve championship game. No one's gonna watch Gent's

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Speaker 3: game at all.

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Speaker 4: So how much do Heisman voters skew a little bit

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 4: of a bias towards a guy that's going to be

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01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: leaving versus like voting a fresher freshman in right?

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Speaker 3: So that changed a lot, honestly with Jamis and Johnny

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01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: because they were freshmen, red shirt freshmen, but freshman who won.

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: And before that, I mean like Krshel Walker probably should

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Speaker 3: have won as a freshman, he didn't because you weren't

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01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 3: going to give it to freshmen. So I do think

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01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: that that's changed a little bit. They will give it

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: to red shirt freshmen now, you know, I think that

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01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 3: they're a little more mop open minded with it. The

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01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 3: way I always do it is I charted all year

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 3: and I judge how you are against the five toughest

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 3: teams you play, understanding that schedules are different for everybody.

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01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 3: But everybody should play five tough games, and so how

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01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 3: were you in those five tough games?

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Speaker 2: I like that. Do you get a vote for the

1454
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: high I feel like you should once you're in, I

1455
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: feel like you should get to for the NFL.

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, No, I think it's just those writers. They've

1457
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 4: talked for a while about changing the process a bit,

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01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 4: but it's just those writers.

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: I think there's I think when you're in, you should

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01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: get to like you should get to throw in one

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01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: modern era vote, like for just one guy you can

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: like yeah, like as a collective or each guy gets

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01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 2: too and once people as long as there are people

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: you've played against that are nominated, you can have one

1465
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: where you give one guy you go all right, I'm backing,

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01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: So not official one.

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01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: And obviously the process is a lot different with the

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01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 4: NFL Hall of Fame because they get everybody in a

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 4: room and then they basically just decide who are the

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Speaker 4: six people that are gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be Torelle sucks like I played against this guy. I

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Speaker 2: know him.

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 4: I think he's a However, what they do do, like

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01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: last year when Dwight Freeney was up, they asked me

1475
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 4: to speak on his behalf to the voters. So I

1476
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 4: did virtual press conference with all the voters and basically

1477
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 4: laid my case out why I thought Dwight Freeney deserves

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01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 4: to be a Hall of Famer. And so even though

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 4: I don't actually get an official vote, you get an

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01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 4: opportunity to at least state their case. So I think

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01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 4: that's pretty good. And honestly, uh, having a vote, I

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01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 4: feel like it's so much pressure, Like I almost don't

1483
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 4: want that you because then there's always so much controversy

1484
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,440
Speaker 4: when you're comparing apples and oranges and you're the gatekeeper

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 4: for these guys to.

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Speaker 2: Be able to get in like that you get first

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: of all, Steve Smith would be yeah, I mean, all

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01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: you want to go to his party, you better have me,

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01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 2: you better have me in. And then Antonio Gates obviously

1490
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: deserves it. And then you've got on the other side,

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Speaker 2: James Harrison, T Suggs, Jared Allen, some guys that you

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01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: probably went in, and then Vinitari's I mean, I feel

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01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: like he's got to do them there.

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like this year when I saw the

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 4: semi finals, it's pretty strong, but it's also pretty heavy

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01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 4: in certain position groups like you mentioned, Uh three really

1497
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 4: great pass rushers that you could all make an argument for,

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01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 4: you know, uh, several defensive guys and no quarterbacks yet.

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Speaker 4: But we're about to get up to the area where

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Speaker 4: there is just a massive amount of quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Every years going to try to take it. He's the

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01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: only one.

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01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: It's the timing for him, is it's good for tuitous, Yeah,

1504
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 3: because I haven't looked.

1505
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: But it's going to be like Peyton, Brady, Philip Rivers, Roethlisberger,

1506
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: Drew Brees, like.

1507
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 3: Oh, there's gonna be a lot of quarterbacks going into

1508
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 3: got in that group where they did the he got

1509
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 3: in with that time when they did the COVID double double,

1510
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: which stunk that they couldn't kind of.

1511
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: But Brady Breeze, Roethlisberger, Rivers group, Rivers. That's but it's like,

1512
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: but I better hope he gets in this year. But

1513
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: the question is is he a first ballot hoff Hall

1514
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: of Famer? He won to Super Bowls.

1515
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he's very controversial. Like people love to

1516
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: talk about it, and it's got the name. He played

1517
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: in New York. He's his wins are monumental wins. But

1518
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 3: also he's a four time Pro bowler. He was never

1519
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 3: and has the exact same amount of interceptions and touchdowns

1520
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 3: and is he no, no, I'm sorry, wins and losses.

1521
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 3: He's exactly five hundred, right, I think he's exactly five

1522
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: hundred as a quarterback, So its he just never and

1523
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 3: he never And I don't know that these guys are,

1524
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: but to me, he feels a lot like and one

1525
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 3: eighteen record as a starter.

1526
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: To me, you have to have been at some point

1527
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: to be a Hall of Famer, at some point in

1528
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: your career, you have to have been considered the best

1529
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: at your position.

1530
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 4: But at quarterback, especially in that era, it's probably tough

1531
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 4: to say because you had Manning. The other one, yeah,

1532
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 4: you had Brady and if it wasn't those two guys

1533
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 4: that have been Aaron Rodgers or he Drew Brees.

1534
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: Never led the league in passing yards, never led the

1535
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: league in passing touchdowns, never led the league in raiding

1536
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 2: three times, led the league in interceptions thrown. He doesn't

1537
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, We're it's not.

1538
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 4: Even no, No, of course, I mean that's why he's there,

1539
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 4: because he's won two Super Bowls and he beat the greatest.

1540
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: Team and he's two times super Bowl MVP. Exactly is that,

1541
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to think, like in days gone by,

1542
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: who is that?

1543
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 6: Like?

1544
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: Like, is that like a Jim Plunkett is plunk it in?

1545
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't think plunk It's in. And he was an

1546
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 3: MVP and a Super Bowl MVP.

1547
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: So on their Hall Fame monitor that they have here, yeah,

1548
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: give me those names, he is eighty five point one

1549
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: eighty five point five, twenty second among quarterbacks. The average

1550
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 2: Hell Fame quarterbacks one oh three. So I'm looking for

1551
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: the lowest rated ones that are in. Aikman, I bet

1552
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Jim Kelly, Aikman, Len Dawson, Joe Namath, Warren Moon, Bob Greasy, Sunny, Jurgensen,

1553
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: Ken Stabler. No, I don't think unless I'm missing it,

1554
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: I don't believe that, uh.

1555
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: Plunkets in, Yeah, like Thighsman Plunkett like those guys who

1556
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: won super.

1557
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: Bowls, But Plunkett's not Plunkett is not in. Yeah. No,

1558
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 2: the lowest rated one that's in is is Jim Kelly,

1559
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: then Lenn Dawson than Joe Namath. Aikman's got one more

1560
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: super Bowl, Eli's above Kenny Stabler, Stafford, Sunny, Jurgensen and

1561
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: Greasy on their list. But he is below Kurt Warner,

1562
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, Fouts, Stabach, Bradshaw, Mahomes, Bart Star, Rivers, Welbleho, Rivers, Roethlisberger,

1563
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: and Matt Ryan will blow all of them. You've got Brady,

1564
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 2: Rogers and Breeze who are definitely all gonna be first ballotsd.

1565
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 6: What he tweets the show Zegar, there's a question for

1566
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 6: you fantasy, why should I start Chief in my flex

1567
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 6: tonight or Keenan Allen or Westbrook? Travis Kelcey is his

1568
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 6: tight end?

1569
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, go with the Chief. I've talked about it earlier.

1570
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: He's got listening five straight games with five or more

1571
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: catches and there that's where you can throw the football

1572
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: on the team middle of the field, working against the

1573
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: linebackers and the safeties. He's got a huge size advantage

1574
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: over everybody in the middle of the field, with the

1575
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: exception of Peyton Wilson, and I do think the Browns

1576
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: will try to take advantage of that. He's played well

1577
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: against the Steelers historically, and.

1578
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 4: One of the things that they'll prob we'd like to

1579
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 4: do historically against the Steelers or three four teams is

1580
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 4: you run the tight end screen because a lot of

1581
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 4: times you have to chip TJ. You have to have

1582
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 4: your tight end in there for a second to block.

1583
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 4: So instead of having him block for a second going

1584
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 4: on a route, you have him blocked for two seconds.

1585
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 4: Turn around as soon as the TJ starts rushing the passer,

1586
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 4: boom catch him for a tight end screen. So uh,

1587
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: he's got an opportunity to make some yardage and rack

1588
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 4: up some stats in various ways.

1589
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: So he's got four catches in five straight games against

1590
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 2: the Steelers. He's got three touchdowns in that span as well,

1591
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's been quite productive against them of late.

1592
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: Love a Dog Today tweets at the show STU versus chili.

1593
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 4: Stu, I mean, what are we prepared to st Chili

1594
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 4: is amazing A chili on a cold day. You've been

1595
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 4: out hunting with the boys, come back inside, your face

1596
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 4: is frozen, and you get that nice warm pot of

1597
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: chili and you put some sour cream onions, some shredded

1598
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: cheese and air and you mix it all together with

1599
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: some hot sauce.

1600
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: Me it's amazing.

1601
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 4: It just it southes the soul and warms you from

1602
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 4: the inside out. It's hardys in there.

1603
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it chili. But if you're saying that

1604
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 2: same scenario, and I come back and I have like

1605
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 2: a lamb stew that has been with red wine, and

1606
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: all right, let me let me give you stews. Apparently

1607
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you a good lamb stew. Let me

1608
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: run this by you. Oh man, I love them. It's

1609
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: a little duck, a little bit.

1610
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 3: The margin for aerror on stew is enormous point, so

1611
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 3: a superb stew would probably outpace a run of.

1612
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 2: The mill chili. Agreed, But a run of the mill

1613
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: chili is going to far.

1614
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 3: Outpace a poor stew. I've had bad stick, that's right,

1615
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: I think chili I don't know. I don't know that

1616
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 3: I've ever had like bad chili. I think it's almost

1617
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 3: always well.

1618
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 2: I was invited to a chili contest to be a

1619
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 2: judge and I was thrown out out of forties, fourteens,

1620
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:53,919
Speaker 2: and sixteenes. I was not impressed.

1621
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 4: Really Yeah, but I feel like, like you said, the

1622
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 4: range for chili is it's high floor, A little good that's.

1623
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: Always chili is gonna be satisfying.

1624
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 4: We grew up as a as a kid. Every Sunday

1625
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 4: we would come home from church watch the packers, and

1626
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 4: my mom would make a black bean chili. It was

1627
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 4: like a black chili that was amazing because all you

1628
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 4: needed was that cheese and sour cream and onion.

1629
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: It was so good.

1630
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 4: It was like a very acidic I had a good

1631
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 4: mouthfeel because of the black beans. But also like a

1632
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 4: white chicken, chilis whereat. The chili has a lot of variety.

1633
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 4: I think that is lovely, but I want you to

1634
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 4: make me some to make it. The only stews I've

1635
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 4: had as a kid was like the stuff that was

1636
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 4: in the freezer for like three years, and moms like, wow,

1637
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 4: we got to.

1638
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: Get rid of it. So big mushrooms, some carrots and onion.

1639
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: The lamb hunter con fat to brown everything in at

1640
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: another richness love. Yes, yes.

1641
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 6: The Hoff's favorite win as a player and favorite win

1642
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 6: now as a fan mm hmmm, in any level I

1643
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 6: would assume.

1644
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 4: I would say my favorite win was the snowball game

1645
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 4: against the Buffalo Bills because it was fun. Seven inches

1646
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 4: of snow. It was the last game my grandma got

1647
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 4: to see me play. It was just like playing in

1648
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 4: the backyard with the kids with the boys, you know,

1649
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 4: as a kid growing up in Wisconsin, you'd go outside

1650
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 4: when it snowed and you get tackled, it doesn't hurt

1651
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 4: because you're.

1652
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: Falling into the snow bank.

1653
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 4: And we ended up winning that game eight zero, and

1654
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 4: we're kind of trending towards potentially making the playoffs. Phil

1655
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 4: Dawson had two of the most amazing field goal kicks

1656
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 4: I've ever seen, aiming at the sideline. Legitimately, it was

1657
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 4: blowing so hard and then the wind took it back

1658
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 4: and put it through the uprights.

1659
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: So I think that was probably my most memorable win.

1660
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: And now as a fan boy, that's a great question.

1661
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 4: I think last year, well, I'm trying to remember which

1662
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 4: one it was, But when I got to call the

1663
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 4: game for Westwood One in the radio booth with Iron Eagle,

1664
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 4: and we won.

1665
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 2: Thursday Night over the Jets. The Jets, I believe that's right,

1666
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: Black was the QB. Yeah, we clinched the playoffs. That

1667
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 2: was really fun.

1668
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 4: But there's been some good ones, like another Thursday game

1669
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 4: that I was back when I was doing Thursday Night football.

1670
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 4: I forget who we won, but we won against but

1671
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 4: then it was a big game. It might have been

1672
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 4: even the Steelers of the Ravens and came back and

1673
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 4: went to town Hall and Jim Brown was there and

1674
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 4: so him and I got to break bread. That was

1675
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 4: the last time I really got to spend a lot

1676
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 4: of time with him. But it was amazing, you know,

1677
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 4: in his eighties and he's it's one am and we're

1678
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 4: hanging out in town Hall chatting like it's noon.

1679
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: It was great.

1680
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 4: Did you get to carry the axe? Did you win

1681
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 4: the ax game when the axe? Got to carry the

1682
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 4: axe my senior year, which was really cool. That was special. Yeah,

1683
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 4: going around the stadium. I got that picture in my

1684
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 4: man cave. Yeah, that's awesome.

1685
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: It's a big axe, a half wielding and axe feels

1686
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 2: appropriate pretty good.

1687
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah uh from Tommy Kleko is a world renowned

1688
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 6: outdoorsman and hunter. Does the Hawk prefer hunting with a

1689
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 6: bow or a shotgun slash rifle?

1690
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: I'm all bow. Yeah.

1691
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 4: I like being in that little bubble of sensitivity with

1692
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 4: an animal, right, Like he got to master the hunting

1693
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 4: skills to be close enough to shoot him with a bow,

1694
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 4: where if you make a mistake, they know you're there.

1695
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 4: When you're rifle hunting from a disc, they don't always.

1696
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 5: Know you're there.

1697
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 4: And it's more about, you know, being a good shot

1698
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 4: at that point, so I prefer boning. I don't discriminate

1699
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 4: against either. But if I had my brothers, I got

1700
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 4: a bowl in my hand.

1701
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: I said, if I ever was gonna take something down,

1702
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: I'd have to do it. Well, you're coming to turkey camp,

1703
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: so now you can do it. Gotta fit you for

1704
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: a bow.

1705
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 6: Now, Lance. Shout out to Lance traveling from Portland to

1706
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 6: go to tonight's game, because I'm a die hard that

1707
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 6: just don't give up on my team.

1708
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: God blessience. What one side dish completes a Thanksgiving dinner?

1709
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: Follow up?

1710
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 6: What one Thanksgiving side dish can you do without? Well,

1711
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 6: Zigura and Bo would like to do without the turkey.

1712
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: Just get rid of Thanksgiving and make yourself a nice primary.

1713
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 4: Then you'll never eat turkey the rest of the year.

1714
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 4: There's no reason to eat turkey except for because it's tradition.

1715
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's our beef.

1716
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 4: Hawk would always eat lasagna. He's been out of the

1717
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 4: curve forever. He always talked about, Yeah Thanksgiving that we

1718
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 4: make lazangna.

1719
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 2: Screw the turkey. I would have mined and I feel

1720
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: like you this would be right up at your alley.

1721
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind if for things giving I got all

1722
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: I got were two big smoke turkey legs. If I

1723
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: got two smoke turkey legs, I'd be fine eat turkey. Yeah,

1724
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: I love a smoke turkey leg. Yeah, but you could

1725
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 2: smoke any other meat it would be better. Like also true.

1726
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: Literally it's the lowest quality of meats that you can buy. Well,

1727
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 2: this is what we say.

1728
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: Things you don't us You got a deep fryme I mean,

1729
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: you can do a lot of different things. I said,

1730
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: there's no monkey with it all you want you here's

1731
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: the fact.

1732
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 2: There are no preparations of turkey that have been mastered

1733
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: by anyone well enough to open a restaurant that serves

1734
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 2: nothing turkey all year around Turkey. You no, if there

1735
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: was a demand for it, it would be there. I'm

1736
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 2: with you, as you know.

1737
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 4: I used to deep fry it and it was good,

1738
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: but it wasn't great, you know. And now I just

1739
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 4: throw the breasts in the suv and let Mom take

1740
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 4: care of all the sides. Because like the difference between

1741
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 4: like a nice suv turkey piece and like a fried

1742
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 4: turkey piece on your plate is like three hours of

1743
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 4: work and it's not worth it on on a day

1744
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 4: now that you get three football games, get to drink

1745
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 4: wine and celebrate with or deuvs and Buffalo chicken dip,

1746
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 4: which I love as an appetiser, Like I don't want

1747
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 4: to waste time sitting over a deep friar trying not

1748
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 4: to burn down the house to.

1749
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 2: Be locked for Yeah, yeah, exactly that kind of a market.

1750
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is, it doesn't matter. Believe

1751
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: that that's Thursday night matchups, Tommy de Veto against Cooper Rush.

1752
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 3: Swap them like now is after all the years of

1753
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: our youth the Lions. It was like, God, the Lions again.

1754
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: Now they're so great they need to swap put.

1755
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 3: The Lions because I think we always are always like

1756
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: two o'clock for like Thanksgiving dinner.

1757
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: I feel like two two thirty something like that. I

1758
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: still don't get that. I don't either, but that seems

1759
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: to be when it happens. Is that when you do

1760
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: it like middle of the afternoon for usually four or four. Yeah,

1761
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 2: but you're eating a lot leading up to that moment, Yeah,

1762
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 2: eating all day, And that's like, well then why don't

1763
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 2: just eat the meal at six? Yeah? I don't know

1764
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: that's a great question. We would do as a kid,

1765
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: it was two, like you had.

1766
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 3: The main Thanksgiving meal was like I want to say,

1767
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 3: like one thirty and then like you would marinate at

1768
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 3: my grandparents' house, and then that would you'd run stuff

1769
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: back around six.

1770
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: You'd got I know families that eat it like two

1771
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: and then go out and get food at night. Oh

1772
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: my god, there's always so much left. I know, you

1773
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: know why because nobody really likes turkey. That's right, But

1774
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: the sides really good? What is the side that you

1775
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: gotta have? And what I gotta have out of the

1776
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 2: canned cranberry sauce, jiggle it out. That might be what

1777
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: I can do without. That's the best. That's the best.

1778
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 2: Cheesy hash brouns is. I think it's I like a

1779
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: good mashhada and make a little bulge of a little

1780
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: gravy in there. I don't know, I don't like I

1781
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: don't love Thanksgiving. I do like a.

1782
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 3: I do like a and it's I don't ever crave

1783
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 3: it any other time, but I do like the stuffing

1784
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 3: with gravy. And I have uh an uncle that puts

1785
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 3: they put like a big hole like mushrooms. Fresh mushrooms

1786
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 3: in there and then they'll put a little sausage in there.

1787
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Now you're speaking my language, and I'm like,

1788
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: let's do it. That's a delight. I do like I

1789
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 2: do like that thing that's got I want to say,

1790
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: it's like a is it like a sweet potato castle.

1791
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: It's got like the melted marsh horse across the top. Yeah,

1792
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 2: that's that's good. That's nothing wrong that green bean castle.

1793
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm all right with that too.

1794
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 5: Good.

1795
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we've come a long way as like, as

1796
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 2: a society in terms of food. I mean, there's a

1797
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 2: long time when it was like, let's just get a

1798
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: vegetable and we're gonna dump a cream of blank soup

1799
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 2: on it. Yes, and we're gonna call that a great dish,

1800
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: and everybody's gonna love it. It's dinner. What's for. We

1801
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: didn't know any better. I didn't know any better. That's

1802
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: this week's mail bag. Well done, well done? All right?

1803
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,720
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01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,800
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Speaker 2: More as well. Well, how about it go ahead? Give me,

1820
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean, let's go.

1821
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 6: It's hot dog water versus civilized people. I think it

1822
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 6: is easy decision.

1823
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: Kids.

1824
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 3: It is hot dive, so sad that you would go

1825
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 3: down that road. Gave is gonna have primanage delivers, gonna

1826
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: have a follow up. But I think it might get

1827
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 3: me in trouble, right, Uh, what do you where are

1828
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 3: you at, buddy on this one.

1829
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: Let's do it real. No Thursday night, no Thursday night.

1830
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: Pick them. I really hope that we can obviously come

1831
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: out on top and prevail. Yeah, but I think even

1832
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: should we not prevail, it could come down to a

1833
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Chris Boswell field goal. Same. But I'm gonna just because

1834
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 2: it's the same for the same, I'm gonna go ahead

1835
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 2: and say Browns, would I have to get over thirty six?

1836
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: Thirty six and a half? Yeah, twenty pe pause, seventeen.

1837
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 2: How do you see it? Browns went twenty thirteen. I

1838
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: think Brown's win ten six?

1839
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh godgery, plug fust, drudgery, Gibbie.

1840
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be drudgery. It's gonna be fun. Yeah,

1841
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 2: expect I do think. I do think that.

1842
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,839
Speaker 3: Just listen to our guys talk this week and everybody

1843
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 3: saw what happened in New Orleans.

1844
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Whatever our best is, I think we're gonna get it.

1845
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 3: I think you'll get it. I think they'll be fired

1846
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: up to play. Agreed, Let's go have a body call tonight.

1847
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 3: Have a great time at the event. You are wearing

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1849
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