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Speaker 1: Stunning news today out of Baltimore. John Harbaugh is a Raven,

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Speaker 1: never more, a huge move for a team that just

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Speaker 1: fell short of the postseason. We will break down Harbaugh's

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Speaker 1: exit from every angle, including who could be Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Jedia will also be here tonight to talk about

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Speaker 1: the postseason that kicks off in just a few sleeps.

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Speaker 1: Who is the number one team entering this postseason? Jedea

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Speaker 1: has takes a plenty. We'll also speak with one of

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Speaker 1: the players in that postseason, Panthers defensive tackle Derek Brown, who,

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Speaker 1: after a long way for everybody in Carolina, has a

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Speaker 1: chance to upset the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Again this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders presented by Progressive Insurance. Alongside

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Judy Matista, I am Tom Pelisero. We

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Speaker 1: will get to everyone of the six wild card games

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Speaker 1: that weekend of playoff football starts in just four days.

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Speaker 1: You know the Ravens will need not be a part

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Speaker 1: of it. Nor will John Harbaugh again be part of

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. That was the news today that stunned many,

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Speaker 1: including Frankly, John Harbaugh himself out after eighteen seasons as

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Ravens one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: and one hundred and thirteen record in Baltimore won the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl after the twenty twelve season, but in recent

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Speaker 1: years had struggled with Lamar Jackson to advance have the

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Speaker 1: success they hoped to in the postseason. Owner Steve Maschatti

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Speaker 1: released a lengthy statement earlier today saying, in part, following

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Speaker 1: a comprehensive evaluation of the season and the overall direction

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Speaker 1: of our organization, I decided to make it change at

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Speaker 1: head coach. Today I informed John that he has been

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Speaker 1: relieved of his duties. Har Ball also released a statement

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Speaker 1: that included the first emoji I've ever seen in this

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Speaker 1: type of note say it in part, Well, I was

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Speaker 1: hoping for a different kind of message on my last

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Speaker 1: stay here someday, but that day came today. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of different angles to that, So let's dive

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Speaker 1: right in ian how exactly did we get here where

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens are parting with one of the longest

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dramatic decision did not come about in the matter

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Speaker 4: Tom.

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Speaker 3: It really was the product of several conversations between Eric Tacosta,

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Speaker 3: the general manager, between John Harball himself, between players, soliciting

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Speaker 3: plenty of opinions from players from coaches, and yes, it

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Speaker 3: did seem like John Harbell himself, to my understanding, was surprise,

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Speaker 3: felt he was in good standing, wanted to run it

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Speaker 3: back with his current staff, including the offensive coordinator Todd

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Speaker 3: Manket including defensive coordinator Zach Orr, planned to be with

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Speaker 3: the Ravens for years to come until he was informed

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: As far as why John Harball is out, among the reasons,

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Speaker 3: it is not just they didn't go far enough in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. My understanding after talking to several sources involved,

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Speaker 3: is that simply Harball lost the locker room. But at

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Speaker 3: the end players just simply had doubts about whether or

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Speaker 3: The opinions of players, Judy was valued here, it was

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Speaker 3: listened to. It went to all levels, and it's not

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Speaker 3: just Lamar Jackson. Now, it started sounded like to me

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Speaker 3: and it continued throughout the locker room. Maybe not one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent, but more than enough for the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 3: to say among the reasons to move on, this was

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Speaker 3: a big one. John Harball, of course out now as

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Speaker 5: You wondered when they got off to that terrible start

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Speaker 2: It never felt right.

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Speaker 5: We've talked about it all season that it just never

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Speaker 2: I said this before.

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Speaker 5: I was told a long time ago by an owner,

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Speaker 5: if you have to choose between a coach and a

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Speaker 5: is irreplaceable. So if he is unhappy with the current

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Speaker 5: state of affairs, and it certainly seemed that way for

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just about.

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Speaker 5: Missing the playoffs this year, but consider some of the numbers.

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Speaker 5: The Ravens have a three and five playoff record with

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Speaker 5: They could never break through and break up those dynasties.

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Speaker 5: They've had Lamar Jackson for seven seasons. The furthest they've

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Speaker 1: In terms of the potential candidates to take on that

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Speaker 1: Those are some of the potential names you could hear

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Speaker 1: among those who was dumbfounded by what took place today

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Speaker 1: the inside. Baldy, you see this move. Eighteen years is

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm surprised. I'm surprised, but there was a comprehensive review.

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Speaker 6: And then he found John Harball, who was in Philadelphia

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Speaker 7: To be a head coach and he got the right guy.

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Speaker 6: And since they won a Super Bowl thirteen years ago,

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Speaker 7: Devastating losses this year.

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Speaker 6: I mean I was in the building when they lost

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Speaker 7: That was devastating.

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Speaker 6: They lost to Cincinnati on Thanksgiving Night, that was devastating.

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Speaker 6: I think Steve is just steep as shoddyest thinking like

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Speaker 6: there was an and then not to see Mike McDonald lee,

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Speaker 6: To see guy like Mike McDonald leave and go have

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Speaker 6: I think it's just a combination of things going. Maybe

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Speaker 6: the talent that we now have. Yeah, Baldy right with you.

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Speaker 8: I worked with Harball from ninety eight to two thousand

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Speaker 8: At that time it was unconventional for a special teams

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Speaker 8: it was time for a change and on the field,

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Speaker 8: Baldy pointed, to a lot of the missteps, but really

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Speaker 8: that builds to is he became a define and Baltimore

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Speaker 8: became defined by heartbreaking losses and blown fourth quarter leads

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Speaker 2: And then when Ian pointed out in.

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Speaker 8: The locker room that the players had lost, he lost

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Speaker 8: There is even that question of the players believe in

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Speaker 8: it might be time Philadelphia they can use that blueprint

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Speaker 1: Tom Steve Bushatti bought the Ravens in the year two thousand.

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Speaker 1: He has run exactly one coaching search since then, and

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Speaker 1: that was when he plucked a young assistant who worked

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Speaker 1: Eighteen years and one hundred and eighty wins at the Helm.

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Speaker 1: He followed Brian Billick, another Super Bowl winner, Ted Marchibroda,

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Speaker 1: Now the search begins improbably here on January sixth, for

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Speaker 1: top story tonight, John Harbaugh is out as the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens head coach. Eighteen seasons, one hundred and eighty wins

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Speaker 1: The playoff results had not been there in recent years.

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Speaker 1: Lost on a missfield goal Sunday night in the AFC

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Speaker 1: just the fourth head coach in franchise history. While Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: Smith among those weighing in on social media, saying, in part,

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Speaker 1: Harva is a hell of a man and coach. He

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Speaker 1: had a great run in Baltimore. He will easily be

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Speaker 1: the top coach on the market. There are so fourteen

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Speaker 1: back to the Insiders, presented by Progressive Insurance, Tom Bellisaro,

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldeger and Mark Ross with us Baldy. Let's start

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Speaker 2: Have yet to make the Super Bowl. This time they

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Speaker 7: They do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it might not be a hotter team than the

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Speaker 8: We were not ready for the moment will Jacksonville. Will

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Speaker 2: Thing for me.

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Speaker 7: Well, a little bit like what Mark has talked about.

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Speaker 7: Does he have those big play, big game jeans that

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Speaker 8: A lot of similarities their Baldy with that, But justin

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Speaker 1: Rounding out the AFC playoff field, we got the Texans

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Speaker 1: What's the key for Houston, not even to pull an

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Speaker 6: Well, their defense have been primetime all year and anybody

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Speaker 6: He's going to start his fifth game. He was a

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Speaker 6: going to see Danil Hunter and Will Anderson out there

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Speaker 8: The key for me, which I've been saying about the

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Speaker 8: if their offense can get the fourteen, they're probably win

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Speaker 2: Here Tom.

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Speaker 1: Six wild Card playoff matchups this weekend, two editions of

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Speaker 1: Game Day Morning right here on NFL Network. That's right,

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Speaker 1: both Saturday and Sunday, we will be taking you through

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Speaker 1: the weekend. It's Rich Mooch, Kurt Gerald, Colleen Cynthia. Yes

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Speaker 1: I do know all my coworkers' names, plus Ian and

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Speaker 1: the ball guy on the end there. Saturday and Sunday

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Speaker 1: right here on NFL Network. Wild card weekend kicks off

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Speaker 1: of the Panthers against the Rams, and look who we found.

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Speaker 2: Stafford shot up snap for Matt Rush. They'll playing pressure.

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Speaker 2: You stripped the ball, play Carolina, dj watam what covers

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Speaker 8: Takes it to mc veil before Young there's a strike

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Speaker 2: The Rams cannot stop the clock anymore with these overcast guys.

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Speaker 2: There is a.

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Speaker 8: Silver tear hanging on the horizon and some sunlight somewhere

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Speaker 2: Are sending a shockwave through the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What a year for the Carolina Panthers who are playoff mound,

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Speaker 1: Sir Perry even getting the NFC South Champs hat, which

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Speaker 1: Rakers later gets what it doesn't matter. Carolina headed to

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Speaker 1: right now. But one of the star players on that team,

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Speaker 1: Derek Brown. Derek, an unusual final weekend. You go from

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Speaker 2: With the Panthers. Man, that was a tough one.

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Speaker 9: I went out there, you know, trying to lay it

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Speaker 9: You know, came in to work on Sunday, went home,

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Speaker 3: So while you're watching the game, were the group chats

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Speaker 9: I definitely sat around my house pacing around a lot,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have seen the betting lines

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Speaker 1: on the game. The Panthers Rams remach Teem you beat

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering how that strikes you.

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Speaker 9: Wow, Man, if I'm being honest, nobody's giving us a

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Speaker 3: You know, Derek, you're actually I know you watch your

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Speaker 3: Like think about how many actually there are right, you

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Speaker 9: It's funny, but I do appreciate them continuing to, you know,

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Speaker 7: You know, this is one of those things.

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Speaker 9: Man, You know, I know I'll watch the film regular

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't pay attention to the how I

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Speaker 9: I'm always looking to, you know, put the team first

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Speaker 2: The end of the day.

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Speaker 1: You think back to last season, Derek and you guys

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Speaker 1: You know, at that point it's a really long rehab process.

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Speaker 2: How rewarding is.

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Speaker 1: That not just to be back individually having success, but

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Speaker 9: but I didn't know that was after you know, spending

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Speaker 9: another eight to ten weeks, you know, not walking, no

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Speaker 9: load bearing on that knee. I mean, I just felt like, man,

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Speaker 9: when I finally got a chance to get back out

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Speaker 9: there on my teammates. You know, I owed it to

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Speaker 9: them to give them out all, but also I earned

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Speaker 9: that moment to be able to get back out there

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Speaker 9: with them. So I mean, you know, I've never looked back,

448
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Speaker 9: never had any doubt on this team. And you know,

449
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Speaker 9: just going from the start, from the day that you know,

450
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Speaker 9: reported to camp, just sitting there, you know, I got

451
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Speaker 9: to have two different views this year of camp because

452
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Speaker 9: I didn't get to just jump in right away, sit

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Speaker 9: back watching my team all through OTA. Is these guys

454
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Speaker 9: put in the hard work and dedication. Man, you know,

455
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Speaker 9: salute to all these other guys on the team as well,

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Speaker 9: because you know, from coaches to the staff to every

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Speaker 9: player on this team, and it took a lot to

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Speaker 9: get to this point. And you know, right now, you know,

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Speaker 9: everybody's thrilled, but you know, we want to make the

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Speaker 9: most of this opportunity for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well I want to get to that a little bit,

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Speaker 3: because you did have the opportunity, like you said, to

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Speaker 3: watch your team in camp, and it's been a long

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Speaker 3: road for the Carolina Panthers to get to not just

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, but honestly, like respectability. It's been some time

466
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Speaker 3: watching those guys in camp, knowing what this organization has

467
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Speaker 3: been through in the strides, Like did you see it

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Speaker 3: back then that this is a team that could finally

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Speaker 3: take major, major steps towards turning it around.

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Speaker 7: I did, man.

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Speaker 9: And the one thing you know about this team, man,

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Speaker 9: it's been that since the day we kept in the campus,

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Speaker 9: I have been about resilience, right, being able to play

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Speaker 9: the game when things get hard, when times get hard, right,

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Speaker 9: when there's something going on that you know, we got

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Speaker 9: to face adversity. We got to be able to react

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Speaker 9: and not only handle it, but be able to come

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Speaker 9: up above it, you know, and you know to be

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Speaker 9: here and you know the reputational organization. Man. I mean

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Speaker 9: to be honest, I mean when I got here, man,

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Speaker 9: you know, people haven't given us respect. You know, some

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Speaker 9: even go as far as to say, you know, I

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Speaker 9: probably never see this moment here. So I mean, it

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Speaker 9: just feels damn good to be able to sit here

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Speaker 9: and you know, have this moment with the city and

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Speaker 9: these fans and my teammates.

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Speaker 1: Derek, thanks a lot for the time, man. Not it's

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Speaker 1: a really visy week. Best of luck, dude, It's been

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Speaker 1: like you know, in decades. It's a Panthers own playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Man. That place should be rocking. Have fun out there

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Speaker 2: this weekend.

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Speaker 9: I appreciate it and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

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Speaker 1: More to come on The Insiders, including more information on

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Speaker 1: what led to John harball exit in Baltimore after eighteen season.

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Speaker 2: We will break down that ending a little more into

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Speaker 2: wild Card.

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Speaker 1: Weekend right after this on The Insiders presented by Progressive Insurance.

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Speaker 1: Our top story tonight, John Harbaugh out as the Ravens

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Speaker 1: head coach after eighteen seasons and one hundred and eighty wins,

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Speaker 1: including a victory in the Super Bowl. After the twenty

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Speaker 1: twelve season Baltimore Nowan barking on just the second head

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Speaker 1: coaching search since Steve Bashatti bought the team back in

503
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Speaker 1: the year two thousand and just the fourth head coach

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Speaker 1: in franchise history. The team making a variety of statements

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Speaker 1: on social media this afternoon, in part saying thank you

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Speaker 1: to a man who put one of their two Lombardi

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Speaker 1: Trophies in the case. Welcome back to the Insiders, presented

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Speaker 1: by Progressive Insurance, Tom Pelisero, Ian Rappaport and Judy Batista.

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Speaker 2: Ian.

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Speaker 1: Let's start out with the Harbaugh side of things here.

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Speaker 1: Immediately he becomes a top candidate on the market. Where

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Speaker 1: potentially could you see John Harbaugh's next stop being at

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Speaker 1: age sixty three?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just considering the landscape of candidates.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've talked how there's no Ben Johnson, there's

516
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Speaker 3: no one guy that everyone wants to hire.

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Speaker 2: Well, there may be. Now.

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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh is a excellent coach. He is a Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl winner, He has led a consistent franchise for many,

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Speaker 3: many years, nearly two decades, and everybody would like to

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Speaker 3: hire I mean, that's just as simple as it gets. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: it ran its course in Baltimore. That's a different story, Judy.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that early in the hour. But you

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Speaker 3: have teams like the Giants, you have teams like the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: I mean the Cleveland Browns. Many many teams will be

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Speaker 3: interested in John Harbaugh. He is He is an excellent coach.

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Speaker 3: He has a solidifying force. I mean, he's just somebody

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Speaker 3: that everybody would to hire. Now, hiring the key coordinators

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Speaker 3: would obviously be a big part of it, because he

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Speaker 3: is not a play card, not a coordinator. But as

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Speaker 3: far as a leader of men, I don't know in

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Speaker 3: this cycle that there is one held in higher regard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there are seven openings and six of them are

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Speaker 5: going to want to at least talk to John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 5: The one who doesn't is the one that just let

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Speaker 5: John Harbaugh walk out the door. The Baltimore Ravens, though,

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Speaker 5: immediately rocket up the list of available jobs. It is

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Speaker 5: the most attractive one pretty easily because they've got a

539
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Speaker 5: two time league MVP at quarterback and Lamar Jackson. There

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Speaker 5: is other talent on the roster and excellent general manager

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Speaker 5: and er Ta Costa and a patient owner eighteen years

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Speaker 5: with one head coach that simply does not happen in

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Speaker 5: the NFL often. Steve Pashatti is patient, He does not meddle.

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Speaker 5: He gives them everything they need to be successful. This

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Speaker 5: is an extremely attractive job available now in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Seven head coaching vacancies in all across the NFL so far,

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Speaker 1: with the possibility there could be additional ripple effects over

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Speaker 1: the next week or so. The Giants, Browns, Falcons, Cardinals, Titans, Raiders,

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Speaker 1: and now the Ravens all searching for head coaches. We

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Speaker 1: also have some teams looking for new coordinators. That includes

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Speaker 1: the Lions, who fired offensive coordinator John Morton today, not

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Speaker 1: a surprise in Detroit, given that coach Dan Campbell had

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Speaker 1: taken over play calling duties for Morton during the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Those two are close. Campbell realized it was not a

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Speaker 1: good fit. One early name is Ian reported a short

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Speaker 1: time ago David Blough, forward Detroit Lions quarterback has received

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Speaker 1: a request the interview for the OC job.

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Speaker 2: Judy.

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Speaker 5: The Washington Commanders and Cliff Kingsbury parted ways today, just

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Speaker 5: one year after the Commanders made a cinderella run to

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Speaker 5: the NFC Championship Game with then rookie quarterback Jade Daniels

562
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Speaker 5: and one of the highest scoring offenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: The Commanders won just five games this season, though Daniels

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Speaker 5: missed ten games with an injury. Other players were injured

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Speaker 5: two the season just sort of spiraled downward. Dan Quinn

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Speaker 5: is now looking for two new coordinators, and Kingsbury, by

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Speaker 5: the way, is expected to receive interest for head coaching positions.

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Speaker 3: Ian one former head coach is now a former defensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator is Matt Eberflus Now the Kingsbury news was a shock.

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Speaker 2: This was expected.

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Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys fire Matt Eberfuss after one season. His

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Speaker 3: reputation as a defensive mind was sterling heading into the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys situation.

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Speaker 2: He left with nothing good. It was all bad. It

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Speaker 2: was all bad. Maybe he can restart next year.

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Speaker 3: But just considering the talent, they had one of the

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Speaker 3: worst defenses in the NFL. Jerry Jones clearly could not

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Speaker 3: wait to say goodbye to Matt Eberfous.

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Speaker 2: That Judy is what he did today.

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Speaker 5: It is time for good coverage presented by Progressive Insurance

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Speaker 5: as they prepare to face the NFL's leading rusher and

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Speaker 5: James Cook. The Jaguars had the NFL top rank rush

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Speaker 5: defense in twenty twenty five, allowing a franchise best eighty

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Speaker 5: five point six rushing yards per game. They did not

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Speaker 5: allow any player to rush for seventy five or more

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Speaker 5: yards in a game this season. We definitely have not

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Speaker 5: talked enough about the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're probably going to

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Speaker 5: be talking about them a whole lot more in the

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Speaker 5: coming days and this weekend. Here is your wild Card

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Speaker 5: weekend schedule. You got the whole thing that Jaguars, of

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Speaker 5: course are playing this weekend. They have the Bills coming

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Speaker 5: to do all. You see three games on Sunday, and

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Speaker 5: of course the Monday night game is Texans versus versus Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Let's bring in our jeff Shedea and Mark Ross. Let's

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Speaker 5: talk about who is most likely to win it. So

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Speaker 5: early to be making predictions, but let's try. Jeffrey, let's

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Speaker 5: start with those Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, my column I have them right fourth in terms

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Speaker 10: of Super Bowl contenders because of what you just mentioned.

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Speaker 10: Their defense is playing at a super high level. It's

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Speaker 10: been the best defense in the league since Week eleven.

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Speaker 10: The guy throwing passes here, Trevor Lawrence, has been on

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Speaker 10: fire playing at an MVP level. He's got nineteen total

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Speaker 10: touchdowns and win interceptions in the last six games. This

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Speaker 10: team is riding an eight game win streak, and I

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Speaker 10: just feel like when they went to Denver and won

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Speaker 10: that game the way they did double digits, fourteen points,

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Speaker 10: they really showed it a lot. So I love what

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Speaker 10: they bring to the table. And Liam cohen Mark is

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Speaker 10: doing a great job with this team.

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Speaker 8: Good spot there at number four, Jeffrey, and each week

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Speaker 8: the Jaguars made me a believer, And you're right, that

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Speaker 8: Denver win.

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Speaker 2: Actually catapulted it.

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Speaker 8: But I gotta go with the team you have at

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Speaker 8: number five, the leap frog down there, that's the Houston Texans, who, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: the last time the Jaguars lost, they absolutely dominated of

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Speaker 8: But I just have more trust and more faith in

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Speaker 8: that Texans defense that has been one or two or

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Speaker 8: three at the top of points per game and yards

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Speaker 8: per game all season long.

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Speaker 2: Is CJ. Stroud can get hot.

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Speaker 8: This team I think is the most dangerous and should

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Speaker 8: be at four, maybe three, and not there the Jacksonville, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 8: come on, get your rankings a little bit better on.

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Speaker 2: This one, Jeffrey.

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Speaker 5: They are the defending champions, but man, if we spent

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Speaker 5: a lot of time worrying about them this season, where you've.

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Speaker 2: Got the Philadelphia Eagles, Well.

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Speaker 10: I'm old for woman market green with me, so I

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Speaker 10: know I'm be oh for two for this one.

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Speaker 2: He's an East Coast.

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Speaker 10: Guy in the Philadelphia Eagles are down there at number

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Speaker 10: nine for me because I can't buy into this offense

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Speaker 10: getting better, flipping that switch, getting right. The defense is great.

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Speaker 10: I love take Vangiel and what they bring to the table.

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Speaker 10: They certainly are championship caliber. When we start talking about

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Speaker 10: what this team can do on offense. They went into

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Speaker 10: Buffalo bad rush defense for the Bills. They wound up

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Speaker 10: with eighty two rushing yards. So they're going to lean

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Speaker 10: on Saquon Barkley. They better start figuring out fast because

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Speaker 10: I don't think they have enough offense to get this

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Speaker 10: thing done.

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Speaker 8: Jeffery're right, I mean East Coast guy, but also a

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Speaker 8: Philly guy, my whole family, Philly fans. I break my

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Speaker 8: mom's heart if I didn't say they shouldn't be hired

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Speaker 8: than number nine, defending Super Bowl champs. You mentioned that

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Speaker 8: Buffalo game with that defense, but also over that game,

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Speaker 8: the Green Bay and Detroit back to back where they

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Speaker 8: held both of those teams to single digits. So they

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Speaker 8: just can rely on the defense to go win games.

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Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts has won two games this year with not

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Speaker 8: even completing a pass and a half, so if he

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Speaker 8: just completes one or two, they can be dangerous. The

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Speaker 8: talent's always lurking on offense. The defense just keep doing

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Speaker 8: what they do and dominate. The talent on offense will

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Speaker 8: finally come through. Should be a little bit higher there, beauty.

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Speaker 5: All right, this team looked like the best team in

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Speaker 5: the NFL for a big chunk of the season and

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Speaker 5: then they sort of ebbed a little bit right at

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Speaker 5: the end.

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Speaker 2: What about the La Rams.

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Speaker 10: No looking too. They are the best team in the NFL,

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Speaker 10: and they've had their issues. I know that the number

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Speaker 10: six seed right now, but it's the number five seed.

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Speaker 10: But they've got a great road to get to the

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Speaker 10: super Bowl. They've got Carolina coming up here. If they

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Speaker 10: have to go to Seattle, they can win there because

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Speaker 10: they were up thirty to fourteen against the Seahawks a

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Speaker 10: few weeks ago. They can win in Philadelphia. We saw

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Speaker 10: them play Philadelphia tough last year and almost win this year,

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Speaker 10: and they got the best offense in football. When you're

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Speaker 10: talking about Matthew Stafford, poopen Nakua debouta Adams coming back,

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Speaker 10: that run game, I just feel like when they get

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Speaker 10: this thing going right and Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay

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Speaker 10: have won a championship already, Mark, nobody's beating this team

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Speaker 10: when they're on.

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Speaker 8: No one's beating the team except maybe Atlanta who beat

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Speaker 8: them a couple weeks ago. And the team that should

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Speaker 8: be number one, the Seattle Seahawks, said Jeffer. We usually

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Speaker 8: agree on something in its segment, but Seattle should be

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Speaker 8: won LA Rams two because Seattle beat them a couple

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Speaker 8: of weeks ago, and then even when Sam Darnold threw

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Speaker 8: four interception, still had a chance to kick the field

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Speaker 8: goal to beat them.

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Speaker 11: Seattle should be won there. Sorry, Jeffrey, our lead story

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Speaker 11: of the day. I still can't really believe this. John

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Speaker 11: Harball was fired.

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Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens need a new head coach, moving on

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Speaker 3: from John Harbor after eighteen seasons that included a Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl win, and the fact that this happened today just

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Speaker 3: set the world on fire for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean Honestly, it.

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Speaker 3: Was quite a week and this only added to it.

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Speaker 3: Our friend Adam Rank joins us to talk about the

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Speaker 3: week that was so Rank let's start right there. Everyone

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Speaker 3: has been talking, including our good friend, respected colleague Judy Bautista,

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Speaker 3: that the Baltimore Ravens now have the top opening in

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 12: I has a changed, like Judy, like we all do that,

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Speaker 12: you agree? I love Judy. I was watching the show yesterday.

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Speaker 12: She was talking about the Giants with Jackson Dart and

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Speaker 12: Malik Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: But I understand now there's a lot of new stuff

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 12: Perhaps the Ravens gig is the best, but I really

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Speaker 12: love the opening in Las Vegas. I think if I'm

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Speaker 12: a head coach, if I'm somebody that was being sought

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Speaker 12: after to run an organization, I would want to run

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Speaker 12: the Raiders. Not only do you have Ashton Genty, you

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Speaker 12: still have Rock Bowers, but you have the opportunity to

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Speaker 12: pick your quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 2: You can sit there.

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Speaker 12: Perhaps it's Fernando Mendoza, Maybe you could get arch Mandy

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Speaker 12: to leave Austin. Whatever it is, you're starting with your

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Speaker 12: own coordinator or your own coach. I said, your own quarterback,

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Speaker 12: excuse me, and moving on from there. And I think

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Speaker 12: about people like Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson going into

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Speaker 12: situations where they were perennial losers and making them winners

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Speaker 12: would be the best thing you could do.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Kevin Stefanski a little bit, because he's

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Speaker 3: been a winner, two time coach of the Year and

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Speaker 3: the loser last two years were bad.

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Speaker 2: Where do you.

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Speaker 3: Think he stands in the coaching carousel as far as

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Speaker 3: his attractiveness, Well.

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Speaker 12: I was shocked to find out that he was the

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Speaker 12: problem in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: He was the one. It wasn't anything else.

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Speaker 12: It wasn't trading Baker Mayfield, it wasn't giving up all

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Speaker 12: those draft picks for Deshaun Watson up.

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Speaker 2: It was Kevin Stefanski, two time coach of the Year.

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Speaker 12: But I'll tell you what right now, I know everybody

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Speaker 12: is calling to find out if John Harbob.

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Speaker 2: Will come and coach their team.

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Speaker 12: And listen, if you can go out there and get

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Speaker 12: a sixty five year old coach who was never coaching

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Speaker 12: offense or a defense, you gotta do it.

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Speaker 2: But for me, I'm going.

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Speaker 12: For Kevin Stefanski, a two time coach of the Year,

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Speaker 12: Award winner.

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Speaker 2: And again, if I'm the Raiders, that's the first call

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Speaker 2: that I make.

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Speaker 3: No idea if Mike mcdowald's gonna win Coach the Year

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Speaker 3: with the Seahawks. So though certainly you'd imagine he is

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Speaker 3: in the conversations, actually a lot of really good candidates

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: His team's got the number one seed. Are they winning

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 12: It looks like it felt like the only team that

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Speaker 12: wanted to win down the stretch, Green Bay Philadelphia not

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Speaker 12: playing any starters.

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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers bottled it. The Rams.

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Speaker 12: The Rams, Like three weeks ago, everybody was talking about

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Speaker 12: the Rams being the most complete team in the NFL.

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Speaker 12: The Bears, of course, lost to the Detroit Lions on Sunday,

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Speaker 12: Like who wants to win the NFC? But I will

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Speaker 12: say this is the most wide open I've seen the

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Speaker 12: NFC in quite some time.

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Speaker 2: It feels like.

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Speaker 12: Any team you can make a legitimate case for Okay,

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Speaker 12: sorry Carolina, not you, but everybody else you can make

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Speaker 12: a legitimate case for being the team to go.

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Speaker 2: I listen, I like what Carolina did.

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Speaker 12: I was the only one on NFL dot Com who

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Speaker 12: picked the Carolina Panthers to win their to be, but

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Speaker 12: still listen. I'm just saying. I'm just pointing out facts, see,

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Speaker 12: and that's all I can do. But it's a wide

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Speaker 12: open thing. Seattle looks amazing right now. But you know what,

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Speaker 12: the NFL is a week to week business. I could

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Speaker 12: see somebody else sneaking in there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe My favorite matchup of wild Card weekend involves those

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks right there, Jordan Love and the Packers Kayleb

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Speaker 1: Williams and the Bears. Round three of the most played

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Speaker 1: rivalry in NFL history, and it is a playoff game

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Speaker 1: on Saturday Night. Welcome Back to the Insiders presented by

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Speaker 1: Progressive Insurance Tom Pilaicero, joined as we are every week

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Speaker 1: by Sam Schwartz, team Prime Video Ansalytics expert, who is

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Speaker 1: with us to use next ten steps to break down

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Speaker 1: this matchup, Sam, rubber match between these two teams?

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Speaker 2: What are you mostly impard to Caleb Williams?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kayleb Williams on our high sky Prime Vision

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Speaker 4: camera view is probably the most fun player to watch,

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Speaker 4: in large part to how he avoids sex. He's eleven

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Speaker 4: point nine pressure to Sacker, I mean when he gets pressured.

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Speaker 4: How often he's getting sacked. That's a fifth best in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. He was one of the worst last year

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Speaker 4: when doing this, so it was twenty six percent as

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Speaker 4: a rookie.

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Speaker 2: That was the second highest.

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Speaker 4: So if you think about how this guy's being able

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Speaker 4: to develop over time and now that he's fixed that

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Speaker 4: problem of his game, we get to see the awesome

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Speaker 4: stuff like his arm where he can make any throw,

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Speaker 4: how he can avoid these pressure looks on like this

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Speaker 4: fourth and four he had in their last matchup to

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Speaker 4: help bring them back. Watching Caleb Williams from our high

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Speaker 4: sky camrangle wild Card everything on the line in Soldier Field,

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Speaker 4: It's going to be an awesome experience.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love played well in the first meeting between these teams.

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Speaker 1: We didn't really get to see him in the second meeting.

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Speaker 1: Was knocked out of that game because of it can

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Speaker 1: cuts him.

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Speaker 2: What are you looking for from him?

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Speaker 4: You know, we hear about all these MVP candidates, but

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Speaker 4: when you look at a per dropback basis, Jordan Love

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Speaker 4: could be up there with Stafford with me. He's second

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Speaker 4: in EPA per dropback, which measures how much you're helping

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Speaker 4: your team chance of scoring based on down and distance,

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Speaker 4: location on field time, on clock. It's because he's the

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Speaker 4: second highest success rate on third down fifty point four percent.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's helping his team. He's converting on over

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Speaker 4: fifty percent of his third downs. This is unbeheard of

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Speaker 4: to be able to do this. So he's great against

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Speaker 4: the blitz as well, which Dennis Allen might dial up.

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Speaker 1: All right, Matt Lafleur versus Ben Johnson a rivalry that

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Speaker 1: is just starting and is fast stating for a variety

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Speaker 1: of reasons. Who you got who's the best offensive unit

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Speaker 1: between these two play callers.

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Speaker 4: Sam a former offensive lineman, I got to go to

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Speaker 4: this Bears offensive line totally retooled by polls that the

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Speaker 4: general manager last year to be able to get guys

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Speaker 4: like Joe Thunian Drew Dolman in and that's led to

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Speaker 4: the forty eight point one percent rushing success rate, which

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Speaker 4: is the best in the NFL. And this is something

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Speaker 4: that they're able to do because they have one point

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Speaker 4: eight yards before contact per Carrie, that's the most in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. And they're barely going backwards. They're only hit

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Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage thirty one percent of the time.

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Speaker 4: And so here's the thing I want you to watch

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Speaker 4: for especially when you're watching Prime Vision runs to the outside,

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Speaker 4: they have a fifty two percent success rate. They're ten

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Speaker 4: percent better than league average. So when you're seeing the

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Speaker 4: high sky point of view and you're seeing those running

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Speaker 4: backs get to the edge, that's where this team is

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Speaker 4: at their best. And then you'll get to see the

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams play action off the top Rian.

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Speaker 1: Vision with next Gen stats alternate stream. That is a

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Speaker 1: Sam schwarz Stein staple, and he is a staple right

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Speaker 1: here on the show. Sam, thank you very much. We

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Speaker 1: will talk to you again very soon. Still want to

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Speaker 1: come here on the Insiders, but first you can go

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Speaker 1: over to NFL dot com slash rookies to vote on

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Speaker 1: the Pepsi zero Sugar Rookie of the Week some of

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Speaker 1: the usual suspects plus Riley Leonard cracking the list. Go

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Speaker 1: to NFL dot com slash Rookies vote now. Our top

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Speaker 1: story tonight, John Harbaugh out as the Ravens head coach

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Speaker 1: after eighteen seasons and a Super Bowl win in Baltimore. Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: now at age sixty three, becomes on the top head

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Speaker 1: coaching candidates on the market, while Baltimore for just the

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Speaker 1: second time under owner Steve Bushatti is now set to

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Speaker 1: run a coaching search. Welcome back to the insiders, Tom Pillacera,

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Speaker 1: we and a rapport and.

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Speaker 2: Judy Matista come to you.

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Speaker 1: Judy, give me a bold prediction either for Harbaugh or

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Speaker 1: the Ravens over the next several weeks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not bold at all, because everybody thinks

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Speaker 5: that John Harbaugh should be the next head coach of

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Speaker 5: the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: It is just too perfect a fit. It works. I

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Speaker 2: want to see it happen. Here's mine, John Hawbas should

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Speaker 2: take a year off.

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Speaker 3: Coaches benefit from taking a year off, especially when you've

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Speaker 3: done the same job for eighteen years.

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Speaker 2: They'll be there when you come back. Take a breath.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you take a year off? How about that?

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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow. Why don't you take a year off,