1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Da stake 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: is that? 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to the 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: solid verbal Boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandt. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: That guy over there, the illustrious, the incomparable Dan Rubinstein, sir, 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: how are you, Ty? 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm great. I was thinking about this week six preview 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: show yesterday. We were actually chatting about it because we 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: obviously spend a lot more time on the week's nickname. Yeah, 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: we do the actual games. It's always always. I really 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: feel like we are in a fantastic place. I know 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna plug everything we need to plug momentarily. We 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: have a lot to get to both in terms of 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: games and show stuff. But we're this is week six, correct. 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: That is factually correct. 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, We're approaching the halfway point of the season, which 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: means we are are either in or about to stick 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: our toes into the waters of knowledge of data. What 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: we know about teams has become more and more robust, 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: and after last week's absolute bloodbath of ranked teams of 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: my picks whatever I've decided to rethink or underthink in 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: certain instances how I approach previews and picks. And of 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: course that got me thinking about love ty. 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Of course. 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had a pretty good love run 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: when I was single in New York. Okay, like I 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: got along with a lot of people. I had a 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: great time. You know, you're you're growing as a person, 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: You're growing in terms of what you're looking for in 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: a relationship. Hold on, hold on, hold on now, I want. 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: You to let the piano music just play on its own. 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: Continued in. 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: But there came a point every three or four months 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: that a lovely gal would say to me, Dan, so 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: what are we Sometimes at a restaurant, sometimes at a park, 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: sometimes in a bedroom. 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: Hey now? 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: And my response was all the time, I don't know. 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of happy with how things are. And 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: my voice would go up like that. And then I 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: met Jody with an eye, and after a few weeks, 46 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: I said. 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: I really like hanging out with this gal. 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: And we started making plans to hang out further and 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: further down the road, and we're still talking about the 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Week six nickname. To be clear, we're still talking about Well, 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: first of all, so what are we? Is one of 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: the s's And then I asked her. I said, I 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: think we should be in a ship ship right, in 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: a ship as in relationship. And I looked at this 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: week's slate and I said to myself, is it a 56 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: shipper Saturday? Who's ship worthy? Who do I want? 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: Who? 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Which one of these teams in these matchups do I 59 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: want to bring home to Mom? And that's how I'm approaching. 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: I want somebody who has their act together. I want 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: somebody well rounded. I want somebody without a glaring red 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: flag in my life. I just want a good hang, 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: is what I want. It's a shipper Saturday. I have 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: shipworthy Saturday. But yeah, your mileage may vary. 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Well, that was a lot of mileage, if I'm being clear. 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: But or so what are we? So? 67 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: What are we? Saturday? Yeah? 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: No, I think it's all relevant. We are at this 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: point now in week six of the college football season. 70 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Hello, welcome, I'm Ty. 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: He's Dan or a solid verbal or a college football podcast, 72 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: I promise. But we are at this point now where 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: it's a fair question to start looking back at the 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: data we have. 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That is the 102 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: address for our eleven a m. Eastern Times Saturday morning 103 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: live stream to get you prepped and ready and get 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: your day mapped out for kickoff because it's going to 105 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: be a big week. Dan, I have fired the hell up. 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I have nothing to add to that without further Ado, 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: should we just dive in. 108 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 109 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: DA time to help you the week. 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Help. 111 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: I need picks of the week. How'd your picks do 112 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: last week? By the way, you recall, not super No, No, well. 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Look, in fairness, my lock of the week was Maryland 114 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: and I read out the divorgac and he read out 115 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: the drive chart to make amends to Iowa fans for 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: picking against their team in such dramatic fashion. So no, 117 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: that highlighted a pretty down week for me in terms 118 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: of picks, in terms of emotions with how Oregon looked 119 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: against Stanford and look, we all suffer. It's about bouncing back. 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: It's about bouncing back. 121 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: I was delinquid in my duties last week. I forgot 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: to issue a window of opportunity. We have literally had 123 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: people email in, tweet us, call us and. 124 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: Say, look I go by this. 125 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: I did it as a joke when we first started 126 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: doing it. At the time had the mysterious day job 127 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: trying to balance life with work with podcast, and it 128 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: was important. It was essential for me to identify that 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: window of opportunity. Apparently it is for others as well. 130 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: Here is what I would say to you in this 131 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: week six. Week five was nut, so we had a 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: lot of games, at least on paper that looked very intriguing. 133 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if it quite worked out that way 134 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: for teams outside of you know, the Oregon Ducks and 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: Notre Dame Fighting Irish. But right this week, I think 136 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: you've got one of two options. You can either do 137 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: your stuff as a normal human early and miss the 138 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Red River shootout. May not be into that, you may 139 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: not care. Or you can go late and miss the 140 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: BAMA A and M game. You could miss Michigan Nebraska, 141 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: you can miss Notre Dame, Virginia, Tech ELSU Kentucky. If 142 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: it were me, if I were going out, I would 143 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: probably do them early because I think the nighttime, the nightcap, 144 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: has many more ingredients for a bit of chaos. I 145 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: think some strange stuff could happen at night. We're going 146 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: to talk through all of that. But I'm giving you 147 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: one of two options, one of you a little RPO. 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: If you're interested, sure, take it from me. You can 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: miss Virginia Tech, Notre Dame. You can afford to miss. 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: You can afford to miss Michigan Nebraska. But yeah, I 151 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: would opt for the later games if you have to 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: accomplish human things on Saturday. But you know, to each 153 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: their own, let's start at high noon. I mentioned the 154 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: Red River rivalry, the Red River Showdown, neither red River shootown. 155 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: We still call it by its name. Here on the 156 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: solid verbal Dan some stats for all y'all. First off, 157 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: this is a rivalry, which means. 158 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if you throw those records out, I don't 159 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: know if you were being dramatic. Yeah, I count on 160 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: you for this kind of board. It's Saturday, by the way, 161 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: soundboard Saturday. 162 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: It could be. 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 164 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: Oklahoma has won six of the last eight matchups here. 165 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: Of those eight, seven have been one possession games. So 166 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: clearly not an exaggeration to say, hey, this is going 167 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: to be a close game. I think it will be again. 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: I think it will be again. Now for me personally, 169 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: I've had a ton of trouble picking Big twelve games 170 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: this season, so I would say take anything I have 171 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: to say on this game with a rather serious grain 172 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: of salt. But it seems fairly obvious to me that 173 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: the Texas defense has been blow average this season. Is 174 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: that a fair statement? 175 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: Definitely? Yeah. We saw Texas Tech, especially with a backup quarterback, 176 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: throw all over them. Then we saw Zach Evans have 177 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: his way for stretches last week in the TCU matchup, 178 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: So I think fair to say probably the lowest unit. 179 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: The worst part of this game is the Texas defense, 180 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: especially in the open field, especially at times upfront. 181 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: At times upfront, yeah, I mean they're better against the 182 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: run than the past, but they're kind of bad at both. 183 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: And there were hints on the Oklahoma side during that 184 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: Kansas State win. We talked about it on the Recap 185 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: show that maybe they were starting to come out of 186 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: their fog, maybe they were correcting some of what has 187 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: ailed them through the first couple weeks of the season. 188 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: It's not there yet, but some early indicators that perhaps 189 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: they're starting to pull out of that. 190 00:09:59,559 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: I do think. 191 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: I think this has the makings of a real shootout, 192 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: not one in name only. Certainly, if Texas is going 193 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: to win. How many points do they need to score 194 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: thirty eight. 195 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: Dan against Oklahoma? 196 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: No? 197 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean how many did Nebraska need to score to 198 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma twenty seven? I think it's high twenties probably 199 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: if you're playing a relatively complete game. 200 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you at with this game? 201 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: Well? As I mentioned at the top of the show, 202 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm going with the more dependable team that has fewer 203 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: red flags. If I'm bringing home a team to mom, 204 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm bringing home Oklahoma right now. 205 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: Now. 206 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I know they're not as explosive on offense as we've 207 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: gotten used to, and the offensive line isn't where it was, 208 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: But Texas is going to beat you with Bijon Robinson 209 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: and whatever comes from Bejon Robinson's success indirectly, so play action, 210 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: a focus, and stacking the box. Whatever it turns out, 211 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma upfront is probably where they're strongest this year. They're 212 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: making plays upfront, they're stopping the run, They're forcing teams 213 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: to beat them over the top, and it has been 214 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: difficult for teams to do so. But now Texas has 215 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: an offense that is perhaps beyond what Oklahoma has seen 216 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: thus far. But right now with Oklahoma, with the step 217 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: that they took forward last week against Kansas State on offense, 218 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I just think there's less to worry about with Oklahoma, 219 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: and the Texas defense worries me more than anything about Oklahoma. 220 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: So I'm going with the Sooners here. I'm going with 221 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: the Sooners. I like, once again win this game. 222 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: I like that pick, and I think that the Bejon 223 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: Robinson comment is on point. I don't think it's a 224 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: bad game plan if you're Steve Sarkisian, no, and easier 225 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: said than done to stop him. 226 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: Fortunately, I don't think. 227 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: It's a bad game plan at all to just give 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: him the rock thirty five times. Let's see what happens 229 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: and if you can get some level of balance as 230 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: a result of that, or maybe he goes off either 231 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: way to start there, and the just is not a 232 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: bad strategy. If they can do that successfully, if they 233 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: can play the pass off the run Casey Thompson's been 234 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: really good, perhaps they can score with Oklahoma. Because again 235 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: per the SPPLUS which we go by. This is a 236 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: top ten offense right now. Texas has been good on offense, 237 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: They're just still trying to put it all together. My 238 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: hesitation with going with Texas here is just what I've 239 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: been saying. I don't feel like they're a finished product yet. 240 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: I think they can be competitive in this game. I 241 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: just think Oklahoma may be coming to that point now 242 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: where they're going to find their rhythm and perhaps there's 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: some value on them. So for me, this game's back 244 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: and forth most of the way. Ultimately, I think Oklahoma 245 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: gets a few more stops with their defense, I think 246 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: they create that separation. And despite all the barking I've 247 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: done about their offense and not having the big plays, right, 248 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 2: even in a muted state, all of their other numbers 249 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: there are success rates, right, how efficient is the offense? Actually, 250 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: they're all still very high. So even in this state, 251 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: I see a lot of value in Oklahoma. It may 252 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: still be a one score, but the line is three 253 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: and a half in favor of the Sooner. So my 254 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: first lock of the week, bluck of the week, WHOA 255 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: get off to a hot start here? Dan, I love it. 256 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: Oklahoma minus three and a half lock number one of 257 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: the week. 258 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, you look on the margins of this matchup. 259 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: So what Texas's defense has done is they have tightened 260 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: up some in the red zone. Their turnover margin is 261 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: not terrible. Oklahoma's is better at this point. If the 262 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: two big factors per bill c are turnovers and explosive 263 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: plays both generating and stopping, Oklahoma has that advantage. And 264 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: now Texas special teams has been pretty good. They're not 265 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: kicking a field goals as well as they have in 266 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: the past. You know, Dick or the kicker has not 267 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: been to me what he was. But Texas stands a 268 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: good chance. It's just tough against this Oklahoma team to 269 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: count on bending but not breaking. That's that's my concern 270 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: here with how Texas has been winning games, which has 271 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: been impressive, but you know, a little bit worrisome. So 272 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: we agree. 273 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: We're moving on. Also at high noon, this one on ESPN, 274 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: Arkansaw number thirteen in the land on the road at 275 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: number seventeen all Miss. All Miss favored by six and 276 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: a half. Dan is sort of a loser's bracket matchup 277 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: from the games last week when both of them got drilled. 278 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: Remember Arkansas lost thirty seven to nil against Georgia on 279 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: the road. Ole Miss lost forty two to twenty one 280 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: to Alabama. What really jumped out to me, both in 281 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: real time and on the watch back, Arkansas was not 282 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: even competitive in that game against Georgia, Like, not even 283 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: a hint of competitiveness in that game. They didn't even 284 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: threaten them. At least old Miss had some points and 285 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: at least they had a shot at a bit of 286 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: a backdoor cover soundboard Saturday. 287 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Well, I take a slight exception with ole Miss looking 288 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: more respectable. Yes they scored points, but also yes they 289 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: fell behind thirty five nothing, whereas Arkansas fell behind ultimately 290 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and finally thirty seven nothing. So we're parising here. But yes, 291 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right that at least ole Miss got on 292 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: the scoreboard and made some plays on offense where it 293 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: really didn't seem like Arkansas did. That said, I'm not 294 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna let one week against what we think is probably 295 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: the best defense in America define Arkansas's season. I think 296 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: there's still more to trust about Arkansas right now. Against 297 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: ole Miss. I still worry, you know, look at what 298 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Mac Carral did against Arkansas defense last year. A nightmare, 299 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: and he's not going to be nearly as bad this year. 300 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: But I think there is more to depend on. I 301 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: trust the line of scrimmage more with Arkansas. Still, I'm 302 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: not going to let last week's performance or lack thereof, 303 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: just completely shroud my enthusiasm. I'm going Hogs here once again. 304 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: The spread, the latest spread that you have here. 305 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: Right now, half in favor of Ole miss. 306 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Arkansas and I do worry about two 307 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: straight games on the road. That worries me. The road 308 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: dogs or road Hogs, if you will. I think Arkansas 309 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: wins this game out right, I really really do. I'm 310 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: a Hog believer, and I still worry about Ole Missus 311 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: defense is still at a point where I believe it 312 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: to be the worst part of this game. And so 313 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: in terms of red flags, Arkansas to me is more dependable. 314 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't expect that. Yeah, Arkansas story this year. 315 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: Do you have the Kings of Texas sound by the 316 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: way at. 317 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: The doon, I replaced it. They have to earn it back. 318 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: They have to earn their way back to the soundboard. 319 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: Look, the wins over Texas and Texas A and M 320 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: are great. Texas is in transition and aim is broken. 321 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, they're straight up broken. So in the 322 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: same way I would devalue a win over Clemson or Wisconsin, 323 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to think a little less of 324 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: those two Texas wins. 325 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Only little. 326 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: Only a little doesn't diminish the story that Arkansas has 327 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: had a great season so far. I don't think they're 328 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: a top ten team. They're not now per the polls, 329 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: to be fair, but I don't think they're a top 330 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: ten caliber team the way they were a week ago. 331 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: Just don't buy it. And that's fine because I don't 332 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: buy it for ole Miss either. I was gonna say, 333 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: who has ole Miss beaten? Where you're like, Okay, that 334 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: has aged. 335 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: Really really well. 336 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: Now I don't either, And look I was probably singing 337 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: at that altar more than anybody. That Old Miss is 338 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: what I think. I said they were the third best 339 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: team in the SEC. They're good teams with two really 340 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: good teams, but maybe a bit overvalued. I think ole 341 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: Miss is the better team. They have more firepower on offense. 342 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win this game. They're at home. 343 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: I am not at all confident laying any points though, 344 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: and I only think that they're the better team. I'm 345 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: not entirely sure, so I'm gonna go Hoggs plus the 346 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: points if I'm wrong. I'm wrong here. I could totally 347 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: see them winning this game out right. I have the 348 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: same concerns about the old miss defense as you, to 349 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: be clear, but sure, I'm gonna go the other direction. 350 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: I'll say all mis wins. We are in agreement though 351 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: that Arkansas plus the points is the way to go done. 352 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: We agree once again, we agree. 353 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: Moving on three point thirty CBS. I don't know why 354 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: I did that voice, but number two George Bulldogs minus 355 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: fourteen and a half on the road at number eighteen Auburn. 356 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: Great win for Auburn, by the way, last week, snapping 357 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: the ten game losing streak at LSU. They did it 358 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: at night. Bo Nicks was a warrior, a legend, came in, 359 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: did great stuff in the wake of getting benched just 360 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. Meanwhile, Georgia, just like we just 361 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: talked about what they did to Arkansas, they're five and zero. 362 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 2: Now they've outscored their opponents by a two hundred and 363 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: five to twenty three point margin. Do you have any 364 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: doubts here that George is gonna win this game, yes 365 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: or no, win the game like outright win the game outright. No. 366 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't have any doubts about that now. The quarter 367 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: health concerns me and the multiple ways to win part 368 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: of Georgia's story this year. It concerns me. Uh, they 369 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: didn't need to throw the ball last week. But like 370 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: anytime you're relying on your backup quarterback in a tough 371 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: rivalry spot, the Deep South's oldest rivalry, then you know 372 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: that's that's something to consider and it's something to think about. 373 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: But I think it's one letdown spot even though it's 374 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: a rivalry game for Auburn after their emotional win in 375 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: Death Valley last week. The points spread is it's interesting 376 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: to me. It is right around a couple of touchdowns. 377 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: You said fourteen and a half. Yeah, and that's really 378 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: the question, right, that's really the question for us. On paper, 379 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: the one matchup for me that is interesting is Auburn's 380 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: rush defense against the Georgia ground game. Sure because on paper, again, 381 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: on paper, on paper, Auburn looks good enough to slow 382 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: them down for a while for a while. 383 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. They did a good job against Penn State, though, 384 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: Penn State hasn't really been able to run in impressively 385 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: against anybody, and LSU has not been able to rush 386 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: impressively against anybody, and so it's hard to really know 387 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: what we have right Auburn's front right now. Yeah, but 388 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: they've performed like they should perform against teams who have 389 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: struggled to run it consistently. I just I'm not going 390 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: to overthink this one. I think Georgia is considerably better. 391 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: The prospect of Bonnicks throwing into this Georgia defense, yes, 392 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: without high level receivers available to him, like they've had 393 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: these past few years. At times that worried like it 394 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: might that kind of stuff might work against a Mickey 395 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Mouse organization like the LSU defense, I don't see it 396 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: against Georgia. 397 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: No. 398 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: So this is like my underthinking pick of the week. 399 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: I think Auburn is fine. I think Auburn is interesting. 400 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: I think there's talent at spots. I think they're gutty. 401 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: I just you need dudes against Georgia. And so I 402 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: think Georgia went is this by I don't know, seventeen 403 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: to twenty one points, And you. 404 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: Know, I think Auburn's better than last year. I feel 405 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: better about Auburn. I feel like they are more consistent 406 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: than they were a year ago under Gus Melson. But 407 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: what is it about this year's Auburn team that the 408 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: LSU win that that cements that feeling for you? 409 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 410 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 2: Actually, okay, that was a big road win. Sure, bo 411 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: Nicks to put in the kind of game he put 412 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: in is mighty impressive. So yeah, I just I feel 413 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: like they're a little bit more dependable, and I just 414 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: feel like maybe Brian Harrison into short time there has 415 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: raised the floor a little bit, which is kind of 416 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: the theme of this podcast, right That's what we're going 417 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: for today on ship ship burn, ship worthy, ship worthy, 418 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: shipwreck Saturday, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, my 419 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: issue with the points spread is exactly what you said. 420 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to overthink it. I like where Auburn's at. 421 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: I think directly they're going to a good place right now. 422 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: It's an above average offense, slightly above average offense, and 423 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: in order to cover a fourteen and a half number 424 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: against a team like Georgia over sixty minutes, you gotta 425 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: do something on offense. Nobody's done anything on Georgie's defense. Yeah, 426 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: especially to cover this kind of number. So I'm out 427 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: on Auburn for this game for this week, and I'm 428 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: going Georgia, Gennis whatever. 429 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Last year obviously the game was in Athens. Was final 430 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: score twenty eight to six against an Auburn team that 431 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: you just called. Well, you said, this year's team is 432 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: already better than last year. Okay, so how much better 433 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: than six points? 434 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 435 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: Now this is a way. So you want to add 436 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: three for playing the game in Jordan Herr Jordan Herr. 437 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: So that's nine. How much better against what might be 438 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: a better Georgia defense this year? 439 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: I mean a touchdown? 440 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's so you have them scoring sixteen points? 441 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 442 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: So, which brings us to our original point is how 443 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: good is Auburn's defense? To what extent? Can they confuse 444 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: what we think is to be Stetson Bennett and Derek 445 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: Mason has done a good job thus far of really 446 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: making quarterbacks think for that extra couple seconds. So can 447 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: Auburn's defense confuse the passing game and force mistakes or 448 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: quick three and out stuff like that against Georgia? Who 449 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: we think Auburn's defense is going to make Georgia's offense 450 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: work a little harder than Arkansas did. So that the 451 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: extent is the question, and I just I think Georgia 452 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: will figure it out. I do too, I do too. 453 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: We agree, Oh should mention Frank's Alley in Columbus Georgia. 454 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm not taking the home dog, but I'm still providing 455 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: a home dog Columbus Georgia, not far from the Auburn campus. 456 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Frank's Alley. Is your hot dog your home dog? 457 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: There? 458 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Four pm on Fox. 459 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: This is the show piece Dan of the weekend. I'm 460 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: doing my Gush Johnson voice. 461 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. 462 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: Penn state number four in the land on the road 463 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: at Iowa. Iowa's two to two and a half point 464 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: favorite at time of recording. I'm actually kind of hoping 465 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: this one bumps up to three. I got my eye 466 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: on that. This as a real life better but show 467 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: piece of the weekend, no doubt about it, no about it. 468 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: I was at this game in two thousand and four. 469 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: I still have PTSD to this day. What a five 470 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: to four, six six, six to four. I have never 471 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: fully recovered from that experience. I will admit I am biased. 472 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: It does shade how I picked this game every year. 473 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: The other thing that I should mention. I have been 474 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: chatting with a couple Penn State verballers on our discord 475 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: at verballers dot com. M HM check it out, and 476 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: one comment that really resonated with me is that this 477 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: game never makes any sense, never makes any sense, whatever 478 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: you think, you know, there are going to be at 479 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: least three takeaways from this game that come as a 480 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: total surprise. Right pointspread here is Iowa minus two minus 481 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: two and a half. Where are you at here? 482 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: It's a It's a really tough one and I'm game 483 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: days at Texas, Oklahoma, I believe right, yeah, Iowa City 484 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: probably should have gotten game day whatever solid Saturday is everywhere. 485 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: I would love to take Iowa. They are a home 486 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: team in a big matchup as a favorite, and you're 487 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: saying it's two and a half three points yep, So 488 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: the feeling is there even and I was getting that 489 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: that home field bump. Ish, I'm gonna go Penn State here. 490 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: I feel horrible about it. I've been picking against Iowa 491 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: though I did pick Iowa against Iowa State, and we 492 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: have we have data on both of these teams. Right, 493 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: Penn State has played real teams. They've played Wisconsin, They've 494 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: played Auburn. Iowa has played Iowa State, They've played Maryland. 495 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: I consider Maryland to be a real team, and they 496 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: looked nothing short of x. My concern is, if Penn 497 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: State does not turn the ball over against Iowa, that's it. 498 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: That's it. If they just don't turn it over, that's 499 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: probably the best thing anybody can do against this terrific 500 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Iowa defense. If they don't turn it over and Iowa 501 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: needs to drive the field four times to score touchdowns, 502 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: can they Can they score twenty eight points needing to 503 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: drive between sixty and eighty yards. Now that's a big 504 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: if because the defense is so good that it does 505 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: force turnovers and take takes advantage of short fields. In 506 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: my comparison about dependability and red flags, Iowa's offense in 507 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Spencer Petris is still a red flag to me. Now, 508 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: I might go down saying this every week and watch 509 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Iowa go twelve and zero. I'm prepared to do that, 510 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: But at this moment, Penn State seems just a little 511 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: bit more complete to me. Iowa's defense is given me 512 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: that wild time late at night, Ty, what I'm talking about? 513 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: That's all you talk about, off off camera, off my time. Yeah, 514 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: But I worry about Iowa's offense sitting down at dinner 515 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: with the extended family and running out of things to 516 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: talk about. I'm going Penn State here to win this game. 517 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: I like the dependability of Johan Dotson and Parker Washington. 518 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: I like the dependability and growth of Sean Clifford right 519 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: now over the dependability of Spencer Petris. The new cliff 520 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: match the new cliff I may fully I'm ready to 521 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: regret it. I understand the potential of a red here. 522 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm going the fewer red flags route here. That's what 523 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, committing to the bit. 524 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think that jumped 525 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 2: out to me too. Iowa's formula has been very simple 526 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 2: this year. Theres plus twelve and turnover margin. And it helps, 527 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: obviously that that number was padded by seven against Maryland. 528 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: But they did the same thing against Iowa State earlier 529 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: in the year and they beat them. They won that 530 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: turnover battle what for Ford to nothing. So playing with 531 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: a short field has been very advantageous to Iowa. It 532 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: is also hidden the fact that the offense stinks. 533 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: It's sticks. Well, somebody's got to say it. It's stinks. 534 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: It's not. Hyler Goodson at times is awesome. 535 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: He's awesome. I said it last week. He's great, He's 536 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: got moved right. 537 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: But the offense as a stinks. It's not where it 538 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: should be, where you'd like an offense of a top 539 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: five team to be. You're right. 540 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 2: The new school efficiency metrics say that it's number seventy 541 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: two in terms of offense and one hundred and fourteenth 542 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: in success rate. The old school stats like yards per game, 543 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: total offense, that type of stuff, one hundred and sixteenth, 544 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: which by the way, is three rungs below Kansas, another 545 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: offensive juggernaut. The offense stink. I'm locking up Penn State Dan. 546 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: Block of the Week. 547 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing it for the second straight week. They are 548 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: just as good as Iowa on defense. They're much much 549 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: better on offense. They have more playmakers as you alluded. 550 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: The only questions are A, how can they use the 551 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: running game? Can they use a running game? And B 552 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: can we trust Sean Clifford, as you rightfully said, to 553 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: not turn the ball over. 554 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: I hate picking Sean Clifford. I do too, to the 555 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: teeth of this Iowa defense. 556 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: Couldn't you ask the exact same question of Spencer Petris, 557 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: you could because if Penn State bears down and they say, 558 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: we don't want Tyler Goodson to beat us, we want 559 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: Spencer Petris to beat us. 560 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the strength of this Penn State defense is 561 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: probably the back end. 562 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: Right, if you ask the exact same question, if you 563 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: turn it around on Iowa, how do you feel given 564 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: the fact that the margins in this game are always 565 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: so very slim, Right, you got to take the team 566 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: getting points, and you got to take the team that's better. 567 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: So I'm walking up Penn State. I got him winning 568 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: twenty six twenty Yeah, I'll. 569 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: Play it again. I love it. Look of the Week. 570 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: Twenty six to seventeen is my final score. 571 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Wow, twenty four to twenty one. Penn State to me, 572 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: by the way, probably a little bit aggressive on the 573 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: Iowa offense in terms of scoring offense. Now, granted it's 574 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: short fields which amazing length. I don't think their passing 575 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: game is anywhere interesting. They're at least at what I'm 576 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: seeing is forty seventh in terms of points per drive. 577 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: Forty seventh is average average. But if you pair an 578 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: average offense, ties holding his nose to the people watching this, 579 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: if you pay an average offense with an incredible defense, 580 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna win a lot of games. 581 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: A stink on offense, Dan, Okay, come at me, fight me. 582 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't care. 583 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I love it. I love committing to this. I love 584 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: planting your flag because you're either going to look amazing 585 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: or Iowa fans can come after you, which is great. 586 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: We want a motion, we want. 587 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: I've had Iowa fans come at me before. Yeah, that's okay, 588 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: it's fine. I love Iowa. I do. 589 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: They're generally fine. 590 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: Eight o'clock CBS Alabama minus eighteen on the road at 591 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: A and M. I was online when the line hit 592 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: on Sunday, and when it hit, it was minus sixteen 593 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: and a half and I grabbed it like that. I 594 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: didn't even have a chance to think about it. It was 595 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: a total reflex. But Bama just blanked, for the most part, 596 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: one of the best offenses in college football until we 597 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: got to garbage time. What do you think they're going 598 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: to do against a team like A and M that 599 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: is genuinely broken on offense. Do we think that's going 600 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: to go any better? 601 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Probably not, unless you feel like it's a letdown spot 602 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: for Bama, which they don't really suffer. A lot down. 603 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: So I'm not overthinking this. No Zach Halzada throwing into 604 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, having Will Anderson in his face, who is 605 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: perhaps the most dangerous edge player he and cave On 606 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: Thibodaux in the country. Yeah, I don't have good reason. 607 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't have the Tracy Chapman part of this. 608 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: I don't either. 609 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't have good reason. I like A and M's defense, 610 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: but they can only do so much if the offense 611 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: can't stay on the field. So as much as I've 612 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: loved and made hey with the home dogs this year, 613 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: I just I don't have it for A and M, 614 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: especially with how they looked at times last week, I 615 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: just I'm not there. Hot dogs, wings, et cetera. By 616 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: the way, is what I'm seeing in Brian, Texas. If 617 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: you are looking for a home dog in this situation. 618 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight by Brian, eighteen's a big number. I still 619 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: feel like Bama might be undervalued. I just I don't 620 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: understand the point in taking A and M with the 621 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: points like you're gonna white knuckle it the whole way 622 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: through the air. Better games to bet, don't don't bet 623 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: this game. If you don't have to, don't. 624 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: It's not a it's not a look ahead spot. They're 625 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: on the road once again against Mississippi State next week. 626 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: But no, I don't. I don't think any of these 627 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: teams on Alabama schedule right now are a look ahead spot. 628 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta you gotta believe. You gotta be 629 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Ted Lasso right now to believe in A and M 630 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: and their chances with the nine million dollar man at 631 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: the top. 632 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: Even Ted Lasso knows when to cut his losses. 633 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Did you say apparently? Did you see that Jimbo has 634 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: started using the same excuses at A and M as 635 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: he used at Florida State. Oh really somewhere a tweet? Yeah, 636 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: he was like an inch here, an inch there after 637 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: A and M's lost to Mississippi State. Apparently that's something 638 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: he said at Florida State. So great, great sign, thumbs up. 639 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: Moving on, let's travel back in time if we could. Dan, Yeah, 640 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: ten thirty ESPN Friday night lights. Does this count is packed? 641 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: Twelve after dark on a Friday? Absolutely it does. Of course. 642 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: Stanford is an eleven and a half point underdog on 643 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: the road at Arizona State. These teams have not played 644 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen. The Cardinal has won the last two. 645 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: If you're ASU, I feel like this is the kind 646 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: of game you need to win soundly because you're straight 647 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: up better. You have a better team, right. I don't 648 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: know if I trust them, and I picked them, I 649 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: was very high on ASU. 650 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust. 651 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: Them to win it soundly, Dan, I don't so for 652 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: that reason and that reason alone, based on no actual analysis, 653 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't trust them. That is the theme of this week, 654 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: Ship or Saturday, whatever we're calling it. I am taking 655 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: Stanford plus the points because I do not trust Arizona State, 656 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: a team that I was very very high on, like 657 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: a month ago. 658 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: Todays who not just blow out UCLA on the road. 659 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: But they did. Do you trust them? No? 660 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: But I don't. I trust Stanford and less. Stanford in 661 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: every phase tried to give the game to a woefully 662 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: disappointing Oregon team last week, and somehow they they wrestled 663 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: victory out of the jaws of defeat thanks to I'm 664 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: just not even way back and I'm not doing it anymore. 665 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: Stanford's not that good. Stanford is just not that good. 666 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: Oregon's not that good either. They were at home in 667 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: a half empty stadium. 668 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: That was really bad. 669 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so bad. I trust ASU more than 670 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: I trust Stanford on the road for sure. I think 671 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: ASU is fine. I think they're flawed, but I think 672 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: they're fine. So yeah, I think they can win this 673 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: game by a couple of touchdowns. It's it's a letdown 674 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: spot for Stanford going out on the road. They're beat up. Still, 675 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: they're absolutely beat up. I'm going to ASU here. I 676 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: feel fine. I'm not overthinking this. They have the better quarterback, 677 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 1: they have the better skill talent, they have the better 678 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: defensive front. They're a much havoc yar defense. Yeah, everything 679 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: points to me to ASU. I'm not overthinking. 680 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 2: I'm going Stanford, man, hiund trust as all right, have fun. 681 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock Saturday, FS one, West of Virginia on the 682 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 2: road at Baylor. Baylor favored by three. I have no 683 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: lean here, none whatsoever. I don't know what to make 684 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: a West Virginia at this point. They're okay, they're gonna 685 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: jump up and get somebody. Could it be Baylor a 686 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: week after Oklahoma State? Of course, I'm just gonna stick 687 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: with the home team. I'm not gonna overthink it. Also, 688 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: this could be a terrible football game to watch. I 689 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: would not encourage anybody to watch this game. But Baylor 690 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: minus three. That's the deepest analysis I can provide here. 691 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going Baylor as well. It's in Waco. I 692 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: just I don't like West Virginia's offense all that much. 693 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't like the consistency or lack thereof I guess 694 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: of West Virginia. Like, they don't pop big plays, they 695 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: don't have dudes to me consistently. Once again, they can't 696 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: control the line of scrimmage all that often. And I 697 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: think Baylor's just playing with with moreois divive, so give me, 698 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: give me the Bears here. I think I think they're 699 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: playing with a little more energy. I like the pieces, 700 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: I like both sides of the ball more, and I 701 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: like they're sealing more. And they're at home. So yeah, 702 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: one Baylor. 703 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: Let's go to twelve o'clock, Big ten Network number eleven, 704 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: Michigan State minus four and a half now on the 705 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: road at Rutgers. A curiously low line. Dan, we are 706 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: the sparty super Network, as we lovingly mentioned on the 707 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: Solid Saturday livestream broadcast. But Vegas trying to tell us 708 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: something here, Daniel, Maybe. 709 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: By the way destination dogs for for hot dogs in 710 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: the Piscataway area looks really, really strong. Now, I'm not 711 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna overthink it. I think Michigan State's better. I think 712 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: Rutgers offense is largely abysmal, and so yeah, it seems 713 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: like a low line. But again, under thinking it, Michigan 714 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: State's better. We agree. 715 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: We are in agreement. Dan twelve o'clock Fox. Another big 716 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: ten game, Maryland on the road at Ohio State. Ohio 717 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: State favored by twenty one. These teams have played six times, 718 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: Ohio State's one all six. The last time was a 719 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 2: seventy three to fourteen thrashing back in twenty nineteen. Got 720 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: two different teams now right in twenty one, but obviously 721 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: not different enough to bring that point spread under twenty one. 722 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: So what do we make of Maryland going into this 723 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: game seven turnovers against Iowa a week ago? How do 724 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 2: they fare against Ohio State. 725 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: I think Maryland covers this spread. I think there's value 726 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: here in looking at this spread at twenty one points 727 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: and thinking to yourself, well, Ohio State has it figured 728 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: out because of what they did to Rutgers. I think 729 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: that's fully true. I think Maryland should be able to 730 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: move the ball some against Ohio State. Not a lot, 731 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: but some. I don't think they're going to make the 732 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: mistakes against this Ohio State defense that they made against Iowa. 733 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: And I know that they're beat up at receiver Demus 734 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: and whatever that was. That was a bummer last week 735 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: against Iowa. But I think Maryland's good enough. And I 736 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: still have questions about Ohio State against a decent team. 737 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: So I think Ohio State ends up winning this game comfortably. Sixteen, seventeen, 738 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: eighteen points something in there. I'm gonna take those points 739 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: because I'm still a believer in the Maryland value. Maryland value. 740 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to Ohio State. 741 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: That's fine. 742 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to Ohio State, but I want to take Maryland. 743 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: I really do want to take Maryland here. I just 744 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: don't I don't have a good reason to do it. 745 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: Sure three thirty ABC Boise State at number ten BYU. 746 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: BYU favored by five and a half. Yeah, concerning given 747 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 2: we don't know who's playing quarterback for BYU. Don't know. Yeah, 748 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: I have not seen an update on Jaron Hall, the quarterback. 749 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 2: If you'll be Romney got hurt yep to play in 750 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: this game, right, I think I might be done with Boise. 751 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: I think it might be done for this year or 752 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 2: just in general, No, just this year. I like Boise, 753 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: but I like BYU. I know they've got a potential 754 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 2: look ahead to the Jeff Grimes Bowl next week against Baylor. 755 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about Jeff Grimes Bawl, of course, but I 756 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: like Tyler Algier to have a big game here. 757 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: I think good matchup. 758 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a great opportunity for him to 759 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: run on this Boise defense. And by the way, a 760 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: lot of talk now about Cincinnati. Rightfully, so BYU has 761 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: already beat in Arizona State. The next four weeks, they've 762 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: got this boys, I. 763 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: Was beating like nine pack twelve teams. 764 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got Boise this week, They're at Baylor. Next week, 765 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: they've got a road game against Wazoo. They also play Virginia, 766 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: and they close out the year at USC right, and 767 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 2: they're ranked tenth. Am I making the case for BYU 768 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: in the playoff, Not really, but don't sleep on BYU. 769 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: They're pretty good team, and they're playing good competition. They're 770 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: not playing cream puffs. 771 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: Also, this train's pulling into the elevation station so is 772 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: it any Boise is at like two thousand, but obviously 773 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: Provo a good deal higher. So there's that part of 774 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: things as well. Yeah, I'm going to BYU even without 775 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: certainty at quarterback. I don't you know, in what I've 776 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: seen of Boise stated, I don't know what they do 777 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: particularly well. I like Bachmeer, I like the ability to 778 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: throw the ball. They're okay, but they're not doing a ton. 779 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: You can push them around up front, which is why 780 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Algier thing and being a good matchup 781 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: for BYU. Yeah, I'm taking the Cougars here. I agree. 782 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 2: Three point thirty ESPN two, Wake Forest number nineteen in 783 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: the land, undefeated, six and a half points, the favorite 784 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 2: on the road at Syracuse. Dan, which way you going? 785 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm going Syracuse lock of the week? 786 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: Really? Yes, sir? 787 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: You sure? 788 00:41:53,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: I am positive? Luck of the week, be. 789 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: Smirching the good name of Dave Clawson and the Demon 790 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: Deacons going lock of the week Syracuse. Why Syracuse is 791 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 2: running the ball fine? Their defense is pretty good against 792 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 2: the pass, which is where I think Wake has really 793 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: made hey this year. Upfront, They're not great against the run, 794 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 2: but they've prevented some bigger plays, and Syracuse on defense, 795 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 2: especially upfront, has made plays. And the games at home tie, 796 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 2: They're not just a home dog tie. 797 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: You know this? Where do they play? 798 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 2: Play the Carrier Dome? 799 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: And what do we know, Tye? The Carrier Dome is 800 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: where teams go to die. I'm sorry, we're talking about 801 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: an undefeated WAKE team with grand designs of being undefeated 802 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: in November going to the Carrier Dome in October against 803 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: a team with a good defense in a difficult, weird 804 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: place to play. Do I need to remind you once again? 805 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: The Carrier Dome is where teams go oh is said 806 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: the voice from Saw? 807 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: What is that I've I've been downloading a bunch of 808 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: plug It sounds like the voice from Jackbox Games if 809 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: anybody's ever played the Murder Mystery game on there? Yeah, 810 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: and Syracuse obviously disappointing last week last second to Florida State. 811 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, I'm going Qus here, baby, I feel good. 812 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 2: I am also going Syracuse here. Carrier Dome a very 813 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: weird place to play. Wake is not good against the run. 814 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 2: You're right to point out that QUS has been decent 815 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 2: on the ground, especially now that they've made the move 816 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 2: to Garrett Strader, the transfer quarterback who runs a lot more. 817 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 2: I've got Wake winning by three, but it's like a 818 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 2: weird getaway game in the Carrier Dome. They go into 819 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 2: a bye week next week. QS, by the way, is 820 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 2: playing host to Clemson next week, which could be a 821 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: fun one to talk about, but let's go QS plus 822 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: the points. 823 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: I should also point out that Syracuse beat Liberty, who 824 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: may have one of the best I don't know, four 825 00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: or five quarterbacks in. 826 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: The It's true they don't have Sam Hartman, but they. 827 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: Don't have Sam Martin. But in terms of if we're 828 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna stick with secretly decent like we did with Pitt 829 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: Is Syracuse secretly decent, they. 830 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: Are secretly decent. Not great good value on the QUS 831 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 2: right now, very good value. 832 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, home dog, weird place. Carrier don't come on. 833 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 2: Seven pm ESPN, TCU minus point and a half at 834 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: Texas Tech. I am going tech and here is why. 835 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I was. 836 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: Perfectly content to go Texas minus four last week. You 837 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 2: talked me out of it. Sure, you talked me out 838 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 2: of a win, No did I. 839 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: I didn't talk you out of it. I just disagreed 840 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: with you. Oh TCU has their number, and they would 841 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: have beaten them. 842 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: I remember I would have won if not for that crap, 843 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: throw it out the window. I stand by what I 844 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 2: said last week. TCU has terrible defense. Tech is low key, 845 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 2: a tough out speaking is secretly decent. They're at four 846 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 2: wins now practically speaking. Their basically one went away from 847 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 2: going to Bowls. They play Kansas next week. 848 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: Texas Tech outright, Texas Tech outright, you think they're the 849 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: more dependable team. None of these teams are dependable. It's 850 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Well I'm saying between between Tech and TCU. 851 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: Uh, I guess that's what I'm saying, Yes, especially if 852 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: they are the more dependable team. Yeah, I hate to agree, Tie, 853 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: I think I agree the games in Lubbock, TCU coming 854 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 2: off of a letdown almost win against Texas. 855 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I'm going even with a backup quarterback. 856 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: I think Texas Tech up front has shown me enough 857 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: that if they're able to at least manage Zach Evans 858 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: and the tc rushing attack, I don't know what that 859 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: outpitch is for the Frogs. So yeah, no, I'm I'm 860 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: well with the Mattadors here. 861 00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 2: Seven point thirty ABC number nine niches Chigan minus three 862 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: on the road at Nebraska. Okay, so this is a 863 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: very interesting spot for Michigan. They beat Wisconsin by twenty 864 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 2: one on the road, they catapult into the top ten. 865 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 2: Now on the road for a night game against Nebraska, perhaps. 866 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: A little bit of a letdown effect. Hope and face 867 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: look ahead as well. 868 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: I want to pick Nebraska, do it, I really do, 869 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: should do it because I am tired of everybody dunking 870 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 2: on them. 871 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: It's just not cool. Five and one against the spread. 872 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 2: But you gotta give me something more than Adrian Martinez 873 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 2: and a decent defense. I know that's your formula. I 874 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: know you're gonna be Nebraska. 875 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: I dump Northwestern on the ground last week. 876 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 2: You gotta give me something other than Adrian Martinez and 877 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 2: a respectable defense. 878 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, how many raise your hand if you're okay 879 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: with your team having a pretty good court and a 880 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: really good Is he pretty good quarterback? I think he's 881 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't think he's amazing. He's pretty good. 882 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: He's all they have. 883 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: That's why the numbers are there. I don't know if 884 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 2: he's pretty good. 885 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: Fortieth best passing attack in America, right Now that's fine. 886 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a great hot dog place in Lincoln 887 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: that you're about to tell us about. Fly dogs with 888 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: the ze continue. But I need that off speed pitch. 889 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 2: I need something different, So I'm gonna go Michigan. And 890 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 2: while we're at it, am I the only one who 891 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: gets confused every week that Nebraska's got another quarterback by 892 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 2: the name of Martinez. 893 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: Yes, you might be the only one, but I appreciate 894 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: your confusion. 895 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: Every week I'm typing down Taylor Martinez. 896 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: Every week I do it. 897 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 2: I have to correct myself. 898 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: The really worrisome matchup because I'd like to go with 899 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: the more dependable team in all of these games tie. 900 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: But sometimes you catch somebody's eye across the room and 901 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: you think, to myself, could be a wild night, and 902 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: you gotta go with your belief systems sometimes sometimes and 903 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: a home dog with a good defense in a difficult 904 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: place to play at night. Now, the matchup that terrifies 905 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: me is Michigan's pass rush against Nebraska's offensive line. That 906 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: is terrifying, especially Aiden Hutchinson. But I'm gonna roll those 907 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: dice time. I'm gonna roll those dice and go with 908 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: Nebraska as my home dog of the week. I know 909 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: you have a sound the Yokers home dog of the week. 910 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 1: You gotta live a little bit. Sometimes you gotta make 911 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: your heart beat. You gotta make that the goosebumps stand 912 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: at attention on your arms, let the hair stand up. Yeah, 913 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm gonna do with Nebraska. I think 914 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: Vegas has undervalued the Huskers after that week one loss 915 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: against Illinois again five to one against the spread, Yeah, 916 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: pretty good number. 917 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 2: Yep. 918 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: So as a home dog believer, I'm going with Big Red. 919 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 1: I am sorry. 920 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: I can't do it. I I I admire the pick. 921 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 2: Could I interest you in a different home dog? Sure, 922 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: the Yukos home dog of the week. Maybe stop on 923 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 2: by the hot Dog House very literally named or Sam's 924 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 2: Hot Dog Stand in the great town of Blacksburg, Virginia. 925 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: That's what I have here as well. 926 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven thirty ACC network. Virginia Tech's a one point 927 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 2: dog against Notre Dame. They're my home dog of the week. 928 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 2: The funny thing about Tech, if you look at their schedule, 929 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 2: just kind of remove yourself from reality for a second, 930 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 2: just live in the moment. If you look at Virginia 931 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 2: Tech's schedule, it is not very difficult to invent a 932 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: path for them to get to eleven and one this season. 933 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Ty, you're gonna give me Look at 934 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 2: the schedulecking about look at the schedule. 935 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the team. 936 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying in a vacuum, just look at the schedule. 937 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: All right, I'm pulling the schedule up. Look it up. 938 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 1: Here we go, let's go. Notre Dame. Decent chance of losing, 939 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: Pitt the class of the acc decent chance of losing, 940 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: Secretly decent. Syracuse, decent chance of losing. Georgia Tech on 941 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: the road, who's beaten North Carolina. Decent shot of losing. 942 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: Boston College and Jeff Hafley, America's coach. Decent shot of losing. Duke, 943 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: they'll beat Miami. We'll see how healthy they are. Whatever, 944 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: but decent shot of losing. It's on the road, Virginia 945 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: in a rivalry game on the road against one of 946 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: the better offenses in quarterbacks in the country. Decent shot 947 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: of losing. 948 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 2: If the coin comes up heads seven times in a row. 949 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what the odds are, but there are 950 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 2: a lot of coin flips there. There's no obvious killers 951 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 2: that are going to beat this team, right, it's possible 952 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 2: you could come up with a pathway. They've had a 953 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 2: bye week now to prepare for Notre Dame. They get 954 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: Notre Dame at home at night, a week after notere 955 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,959 Speaker 2: took its first l of the season. Definite letdown coming 956 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 2: here for Notre Dame. I mean, not even a question 957 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: about it. We also don't know what Notre Dame's doing 958 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 2: at quarterback. I haven't seen an update. We're recording this 959 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 2: on a Tuesday, so maybe we're a bit ahead of 960 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 2: the curve. If I were a betting man, I would 961 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 2: probably bet on Drew Pine getting the nod. Okay, don't 962 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: know if that's something that they will even announce before 963 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 2: the game. But all things being said, you got all 964 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 2: those Virginia Tech factors, plus potentially a Notre Dame quarterback 965 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 2: getting his first start of his career in Lane Stadium 966 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 2: as a lot working against Notre Dame. And I don't 967 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,439 Speaker 2: really like Virginia Tech as a team, to be clear, 968 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 2: but this is just a situational play that feels really 969 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 2: good for the Hokies. I think something low scoring. I 970 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 2: think it's twenty four to nineteen. And while we're at it, 971 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 2: at least one miss in the kicking game for Jonathan 972 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 2: Door on the Notre Dame side. Have you been following 973 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 2: the plight of Jonathan Door so far? 974 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: Not even a little. 975 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 2: He is very close. He is tiptoed right up to 976 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 2: the line where we start talking about the yips. 977 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: Is that true? 978 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 2: He's getting there, getting there. Missed an extra point last week. 979 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 2: Has had a couple bad misses in the in the 980 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 2: field goal department. That's how you get to nineteen points. 981 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,919 Speaker 2: You miss an extra point twenty four to nineteen. Tech 982 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 2: wins at home. Bad spot for Notre Dame. 983 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Virginia Tech doesn't really do anything well, but they 984 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: don't actually do anything terribly, whereas Notre Dame does. And 985 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 1: that kind of starts at quarterback and offensive line and 986 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: so on the road. Yeah, I think you know, maybe 987 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: a couple false starts, miscommunications. I'm won with Virginia Tech here. 988 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: I'm going with a home dog as well. And by 989 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: the way, I did look at Bill C's numbers. If 990 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: there's a fifty five percent chance Virginia Tech either wins 991 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: seven or eight games, that's where they are at. The 992 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: Odds of winning eleven games are fewer than one percent. 993 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 2: Just saying it's possible or less. I believe ted Lasso 994 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 2: would believe I guess. So next game seven point thirty 995 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 2: sec Network LSU at number sixteen Kentucky. They're favored by three. 996 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 2: Both of LC's losses have been against mobile quarterbacks. I 997 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 2: am not the world's biggest Will Levis fan, but he 998 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 2: is back, and Will Levis could check that box. Dog, 999 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 2: he could check that box. It might be the only 1000 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: box he can reliably check. So I'm taking Kentucky. I'm 1001 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 2: not going to overthink it. 1002 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you too. I think LSU they could be 1003 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: in the midst of a spiral. We saw the tackling issues, 1004 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: we saw the offensive line issues. Kentucky's good enough to 1005 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: win this game. It's one hundred percent of letdown spot 1006 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: and Vegas is looking at the teams as even I 1007 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: think there's more to count on about Kentucky right now. 1008 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: So I'm bringing bringing the Cats back back home for 1009 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: the holidays, as weird as that is sounding out loud. 1010 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: And finally, eight pm on Fox Utah at usc USC 1011 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 2: favored by three points. The theme of this show has 1012 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: been Shipper Saturday. The theme of this show has been 1013 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 2: who do we bring home to the parents. 1014 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a good experience bringing solid wife 1015 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 1: Kate home to me? Mom? H, For the first time 1016 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: I did. It wasn't awkward, like your mom wasn't like 1017 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: an interrogating her, Like there wasn't any sort of issue there. 1018 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 2: My mom does have an interrogation streak, just not in 1019 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 2: that initial meeting. 1020 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: Were their previous situations over interrogating? 1021 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 2: No, No, Mom's known how to behave herself. 1022 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: I get a weekly email from her saying I'm not 1023 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: good enough for Tyler, a weekly email. I'm just kidding. 1024 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: I love you, mom. H. Yeah. 1025 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: Where I'm going with this, yeah, is if it is 1026 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 2: a matter of stability, are you taking Kyle Whittingham or 1027 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 2: are you taking whatever the USC coaching situation is at 1028 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: the moment. 1029 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: Well, with Kyle Whittingham comes a rough offense that had 1030 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback full on quit the team after a couple 1031 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 1: of games. True, their utah's turnover margin is eighty seventh, 1032 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: though they've turned the ball over less with Cam Rising. 1033 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: I mean, look, they've got a couple interesting running backs 1034 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: for sure. The games where the games in LA are 1035 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: is in solid LA. Yeah, Okay, so it's not at 1036 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: elevation USC ad impressive performance, especially on the ground against Colorado, 1037 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: which I think is ultimately meaningless. Also, I did see 1038 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: just a bummer of a time. I'm sure Dante Williams, 1039 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: the USC interim head coach, his father passed away last week. 1040 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with how I'm picking this game, 1041 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: but you know, thoughts and condolences, I'm gonna go with 1042 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: Utah here. I'm gonna go with Utah to win ugly, 1043 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: just because what we've seen of USC has been a 1044 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,919 Speaker 1: lot of down with some up, and I think Utah 1045 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: is a team at the line of scrimmage. Even though 1046 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: they haven't been as good on offense up front as 1047 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: we've gotten used to, I still think they're good enough 1048 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: to win this game. So yeah, I'm going utes here. 1049 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 2: That is all I have dan for the sixth week 1050 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 2: of this year twenty twenty one season. Any other games 1051 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 2: I to jump out? 1052 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? Actually, so, Wyoming's playing air Force. Wyoming has played nobody. 1053 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: They're four and oh. Air Force is four and one 1054 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: and actually being led by a really interesting and fun 1055 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 1: looking defense. San Diego State is four and oh. Ahead 1056 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: of the New Mexico game, they have a decent shot 1057 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: at going ten and two. Their big challenges are in 1058 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: Air Force and Fresno. Cameron Thomas, by the way for 1059 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: San Diego State, absolute dude up Front a TfL A 1060 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: Tackle for Loss machine, My road Runners tied of UTSA. 1061 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: They're winning with defense and passing. They're not making a 1062 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: lot of mistakes in Seer McCormick one of the better 1063 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: running backs that is under the radar in the country. 1064 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: Clarence Hicks has been great on defense. One of the 1065 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: best punting teams in America. UTSA. They have another interesting 1066 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: team who is secretly decent despite what the record says, 1067 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky tie Hilltop Western Kentucky. That the Toppers have 1068 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: played Army, Indiana and Michigan State and they're not, which 1069 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: is tough tie. And yet they have one of the 1070 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: best handfuls of past pass offenses. They're just a very 1071 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: prolific team. As somebody who watches a team that features 1072 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback who cannot complete downfield passes at all for 1073 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: me to watch Bailey Zappi, that's right, Ty, his real name, 1074 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi. It's from The Simpsons. They're really really fun 1075 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: and this game is worth watching. So those are the 1076 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: games that I feel like perhaps we omitted on first. 1077 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: Glance Bailey Zappie by the way last week, Oh yeah, 1078 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 2: big time losing in their game. Really, I think he's 1079 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 2: he's either the nation's most prolific passer in terms of 1080 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 2: yards per game or something like that. But he has 1081 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 2: been really, really fun to watch and I kind of 1082 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 2: look forward to him grad transferring to somewhere bigger. Sorry, 1083 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 2: all right, shall we put the cherry on the top 1084 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 2: of this here? Soundboard Saturday? The soundboard Saturday. It's time, 1085 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 2: just quick favor if you could drop me some big 1086 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 2: stanky touching teasing trailing to the leading Drummond five. Here's 1087 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 2: what we got, Dan, twelve thirty. Coldgate at the Brown 1088 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 2: Bears twelve thirty. Not sure what network is carrying this, 1089 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 2: can only assume it's gonna be major network television. Who 1090 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 2: you got, I'm. 1091 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: Gonna go Coldgate here, I'm going Gators. Twelve thirty. I'll 1092 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: go Greate. 1093 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 2: I'll go Gators as well. Twelve thirty Bucknell at Lafayette. 1094 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 2: You know my stance on Bucknell, Dan, I always go 1095 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 2: against the Nellies. Let's go Yetti's gimme Lafayette playing the 1096 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,479 Speaker 2: home game. A nice bounce back week for Lafayette. Last 1097 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 2: week a heartbreaker, a last second heartbreaker. I'm going Lafyette 1098 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 2: to bounce back in a big way. One PM a 1099 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 2: Lehigh on the road, traveling south, short hop, skip and 1100 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 2: a jump down the Northeast Extension, squaring off against Penn. 1101 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 2: Lehi is dead to me for reasons I will not 1102 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 2: get into on this podcast. 1103 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: WHOA is that true? 1104 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 2: There's some vocal zoning bs going on around here that 1105 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 2: I'm not too happy give me. 1106 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: Penn. 1107 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 2: Lehi's dead, ded dead. 1108 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm going Quakers. I'm going Quakers here. Lehi in my 1109 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: numbers would be a thirteen and a half point dog 1110 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: to Northampton High School. So I'm going Quakers here. Shout 1111 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: out hu Ma. By the way, my friend Hugh went 1112 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: to Penn and he developed a really cool app and 1113 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: website for people to get COVID vaccinations in New York. 1114 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Very early on, nice total rockstar, Penn Quaker. 1115 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 2: And finally one PM it is uh Wagner. We'll just 1116 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 2: assume Billy Wagner on the road at the Fordham Rams, 1117 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Dan New York's one true team. 1118 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Who you got? I we go Fordham? We absolutely go 1119 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Fordham with New York's one true team. 1120 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 2: You remember how good Billy Wagner was back in his heyday? 1121 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Yes, but did he also give up the home run 1122 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: to Albert Poolholz that sailed into Mexico? Was that Billy 1123 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Wagner was at another Astros closer? Uh, I'm looking this 1124 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: up right now. 1125 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Are you thinking of Brad Lidge? 1126 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh maybe it was Brad Lidge? Good call. Yeah. As 1127 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: we slowly morph into a baseball podcast centered in two thousand. 1128 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 2: And three, Billy Wagner lefty closer was very good. I'm 1129 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 2: going Fordham here, gotta go Fordham Rams. 1130 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of, Man, we need to do 1131 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: a secret podcast that we do no marketing, no promotion, 1132 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: no anything, almost like our secret verbal we haven't done 1133 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: all year. Maybe we'll do a secret verbal next week. 1134 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Next week. 1135 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: We'll do it next week. 1136 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: And the show is just called The Closers, and it's 1137 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: just us talking about the interesting personalities who have served 1138 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: as closers or relief pitchers whatever for baseball teams over 1139 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: the years. We're just like, man, you want to hear 1140 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 1: some weird Lee Smith stories, this is the show for you. 1141 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Antonio Alfonseka and his sixth finger. Jose Mesa, Yeah, 1142 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm downwards of guys, I could hang in that conversation. 1143 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I would love that, all right. 1144 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 2: If you're out and about this weekend, don't forget to 1145 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 2: check out the red Zone channel for college football. It 1146 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 2: is called the College Football Bullitz. It starts every Saturday 1147 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 2: at noon Eastern on ESPN, you Radio Serious XM channel 1148 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 2: eighty four, and of course the Varsity Network app. It 1149 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,959 Speaker 2: is live whip around coverage every game in the top 1150 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 2: twenty five. You can hear the scoring as it happens 1151 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 2: is called by each scool Rule's hometown radio crew. Only 1152 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 2: three commercial breaks every hour, which means fifty six minutes 1153 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 2: of live play by play. Dan, who is the host 1154 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 2: of said broadcast. 1155 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Me me, Stevie's Speed Run. Stevie's Speed Run. 1156 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 2: Stephen Hertzel, Yeah, Stephen Hertzel, Speedy. Steve gives you that 1157 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 2: live whip around coverage. Check it out if you are 1158 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: out and on the town, Dan, I agree, It's all 1159 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 2: I got for week six. Don't forget to go on 1160 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 2: out to Solid verbal dot com pick up your shirt 1161 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 2: while supplies last. Also, verballers dot Com is how you 1162 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 2: can subscribe to the Patreon and get this show, get 1163 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,479 Speaker 2: all of our shows early. Get access to a live 1164 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 2: stream of the Reaction show that we do ten am, Yeah, 1165 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 2: ten am Eastern time every Sunday. And also while we're here, 1166 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 2: don't forget to go on out to Solid Saturday dot 1167 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 2: com eleven am Eastern time. That is, through our YouTube channel. 1168 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 2: We will walk you through all of the college football 1169 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 2: action before us in this year your week six. 1170 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, that's all. 1171 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 2: I have. Enjoy your shipping this Saturday, Daniel. 1172 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Ship worthy sas. So what are we Saturday? Have you 1173 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: had that conversation before? 1174 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 2: Uh? 1175 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you been dating somebody for four months? Can 1176 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: we secret verbal this person? Have you been dating? No? 1177 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Have you been dating somebody for three, four or five months? 1178 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: A month, eleven weeks whatever? And you were not expecting 1179 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 1: that question to be popped to you. So what are 1180 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: we you had to You're an attractive, personable guy for. 1181 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 2: That guy over there, my good friend Jan Rubinstein, for myself, 1182 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 2: man Ty Hildebrand. We'll talk to you all on Friday. Meantime, 1183 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace