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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, May tenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 6: episode number six. Welcome to the latest edition of The
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Speaker 6: Cowboys got Nick, Brian Andamber here with me today. We
Speaker 6: were talking Cowboys football for the next forty five minutes.
Speaker 6: And this is a busy week around here. Got a
Speaker 6: lot going on tomorrow night. If you haven't heard the
Speaker 6: schedule released, the NFL schedule will be pushed out. We
Speaker 6: will obviously be pushing ours out as every team will,
Speaker 6: and we'll have some interesting content for you guys, so
Speaker 6: make sure you stay tuned for that. Real quick though,
Speaker 6: I want to get some thoughts from you guys on are.
Speaker 3: You worried about any other teams you're competing against this
Speaker 3: share you're worried about.
Speaker 6: We're competing against everybody and nobody like what I mean
Speaker 6: by that, you worried about.
Speaker 3: You worried about like the Buccaneers coming with something off
Speaker 3: the Pirates share.
Speaker 6: So honestly, honestly, teams will take shot at us, but
Speaker 6: that's not really the lane we play in.
Speaker 2: We kind of float above all that stuff, like our
Speaker 2: brands above this.
Speaker 6: What we typically do, as you notice, is we've leaned
Speaker 6: into the whole, you know, celebrity thing. We do the
Speaker 6: fun videos and uh and so we got we got
Speaker 6: some stuff planned for for fans.
Speaker 2: I think they'll appreciate it. I think you'll be really good.
Speaker 3: I'm sure at the end of the day they'll get
Speaker 3: hand you the award.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 6: But look, you know they we let them do their thing.
Speaker 6: And by the way, I'll never disparage another team. The
Speaker 6: only teams that lose this week are the ones that
Speaker 6: do nothing, and most of them will do something. And
Speaker 6: if you do something that engages your fan base, more
Speaker 6: power to you. You're doing the right stuff. We just
Speaker 6: have our own lane, and we say.
Speaker 4: In that.
Speaker 7: This has become like one of the biggest.
Speaker 8: Oh sure type of videos are put out every year.
Speaker 8: This is what would you compare this to in this world?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 6: And I'm smarting sports media. For NFL clubs, this is
Speaker 6: the biggest thing that any team does all year. And
Speaker 6: it didn't used to be like this. I remember when
Speaker 6: I first started working for the Cowboys. I remember Nick
Speaker 6: came to my office one day and was like, Hey,
Speaker 6: it's schedules coming out tomorrow, and this had to be
Speaker 6: early two thousands, and I was like okay, and he
Speaker 6: was like, yo, you know we can get this out
Speaker 6: like it's a big deal, get it out quick. And
Speaker 6: back then it was just like how fast can you
Speaker 6: get it out? But to me, I was always thinking,
Speaker 6: that's kind of silly. We won't have any games until later.
Speaker 6: I can look at it later, I don't care. But
Speaker 6: over the years I started to realize, like, fans wait
Speaker 6: for this day because they start making plans around it.
Speaker 6: So it's become a big deal, and the NFL has
Speaker 6: done a good job of capitalize on that so much
Speaker 6: so to where now it has become the big deal
Speaker 6: for everybody to put out their best content to announce
Speaker 6: the schedule.
Speaker 2: Release, and that's actually a pretty cool thing.
Speaker 9: I like it.
Speaker 2: It gets me excited.
Speaker 8: Well, you was gonna say, you're not in the middle
Speaker 8: of the season trying to get this production put together
Speaker 8: even though you only have a couple of days literally,
Speaker 8: less than a couple of days too.
Speaker 2: Literally.
Speaker 6: Our editors, Drew Ferguson and Connor McMahon, they're hard at
Speaker 6: work right now. I think last night when I talked
Speaker 6: to them there, it was it was around midnight. They
Speaker 6: were still working when they sent me there the last message,
Speaker 6: and they're still working hard on this thing to get
Speaker 6: it ready. So it is a it is a labor
Speaker 6: of love for our team, but it's a big deal.
Speaker 3: Were you guys the first Were you guys the first
Speaker 3: to do this?
Speaker 2: No, we were among the first.
Speaker 6: When we did the post Malone video, that was when
Speaker 6: I think it got taken to another level. But there
Speaker 6: were other teams that were doing it around the same time.
Speaker 6: They just that's when I think it was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: game on. I think everybody started saying Okay, here we go.
Speaker 6: And and last year you could look at the quality
Speaker 6: of the videos the teams are putting out and you saw,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, it's at a different level now.
Speaker 10: Teams are taking this really seriously, so it'll be fun.
Speaker 3: It'll be fun.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the schedule though.
Speaker 6: You look at the Cowboys schedule and obviously right now
Speaker 6: what we know are the home in the away games.
Speaker 6: We don't know dates yet. I'll run down the list.
Speaker 6: Here's who the Cowboys are playing at home. It's the Giants,
Speaker 6: the Eagles, Washington, Detroit, the Rams, New England, the Jets
Speaker 6: and Seattle. And then the road teams that they'll the
Speaker 6: play teams will play on the road be the Giants, A,
Speaker 6: Philly and Washington again, and then Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, the Chargers,
Speaker 6: Miami and San Francisco. When the schedule comes out tomorrow,
Speaker 6: what particular things will you guys be looking at And
Speaker 6: is there anything that's important from the standpoint of the
Speaker 6: team that would matter when it comes to wins and losses.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I.
Speaker 11: Think there are certain things you look at.
Speaker 12: You can always look at December January and you know
Speaker 12: how's it going to end, even though that's kind of
Speaker 12: a tricky thing to do because you don't know how
Speaker 12: this team's going to be, what the other teams look like.
Speaker 12: There's always going to be three or four curve balls
Speaker 12: in there that you think and that's not gonna be
Speaker 12: a tough game, or that will be a tough game,
Speaker 12: and it turns out the other way. So you know,
Speaker 12: you just kind of I think you really just look
Speaker 12: at the first month and the last month and just
Speaker 12: kind of see from there on based off what you think.
Speaker 12: Maybe you know, three road games in a row or
Speaker 12: three home games in a row stretcher or something like that.
Speaker 12: But it's tough to it's tough to tell. There's gonna
Speaker 12: be a lot of people that'll have the whole schedule
Speaker 12: like their wins win, loss, loss, but you don't really
Speaker 12: it's it's just something to do in May.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of look at that stretch of win
Speaker 3: those games.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: We talked about this on one O five three yesterday
Speaker 3: was what games those There's some difficult road games along
Speaker 3: the way that you're going to have to deal with that.
Speaker 3: The San Francisco one will be a difficult one, the
Speaker 3: Buffalo one will be a difficult one. You have to
Speaker 3: deal with. Philadelphia is always one because it's the division
Speaker 3: opponent that you have to deal with. So I was
Speaker 3: kind of always thinking, how do they how do they
Speaker 3: space out the difficult games, do they give you an
Speaker 3: opportunity or are they going to put them all like
Speaker 3: in the same area those You know, how many times
Speaker 3: are you you having to make those trips? Are you
Speaker 3: guys having to make those trips across the country to
Speaker 3: play these games and stuff like that. So that's where
Speaker 3: I always look at. You know that the last game
Speaker 3: is going to be a division game, and it's probably
Speaker 3: going to be Philadelphia, you know, because that's where I
Speaker 3: think that the schedule makers look at. They say, who
Speaker 3: are the two favorites in the division? Even though I
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a really tough division, they probably
Speaker 3: say it's going to come down to Dallas and Philly.
Speaker 3: And so I could see them that last game. When
Speaker 3: when is that game? And and is that going to
Speaker 3: get going to be in Philadelphia or is it going
Speaker 3: to be on the road. That's the one I always
Speaker 3: kind of look at.
Speaker 8: What I'm looking at is what's happening Christmas weekend? What
Speaker 8: are we going to do with our Christmas weekend? No,
Speaker 8: but what game was it where we.
Speaker 7: Had that tough stretch this past year? Nick?
Speaker 8: You have the good memory, what game you remember we
Speaker 8: had just a tough little stretch there where the Cowys
Speaker 8: didn't really get much rest.
Speaker 12: It's usually right around that Thanksgiving yeah, ten games. Yeah,
Speaker 12: it's always kind of right in there and then what
Speaker 12: happens after things.
Speaker 8: But I feel this past year it was a lot
Speaker 8: closer than what it usually is, where you had some
Speaker 8: extra days at it in there when it was just
Speaker 8: too soon for the cows they didn't get enough right, Oh.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 12: It was the Sunday at Jacksonville, then they got Saturday
Speaker 12: at home against Philly, and then the next Thursday was
Speaker 12: at Tennessee. And so it was in a span of
Speaker 12: like twelve days you played three games.
Speaker 3: Were they gonna make tough. They're going to make you
Speaker 3: play probably Thursday Thursday back to back. They're going to
Speaker 3: probably because the league now both it doesn't matter. You
Speaker 3: could play two Thursday games, So you're likely going to
Speaker 3: get your Thanksgiving Day game and then probably the next Thursday.
Speaker 3: They've done that before. They didn't do it last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year ironically like that.
Speaker 3: But but your previous years. I have a feeling they're
Speaker 3: gonna try and get you back into that rotation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 8: But yeah, when you well, the thing I'm looking at
Speaker 8: is when you have those types of weeks, it is
Speaker 8: kind of difficult. When you talk about a young team overall,
Speaker 8: do you know that they're not necessarily accustomed to maybe
Speaker 8: that kind of intensity in the NFL, plus the amount
Speaker 8: of recovery time, and one thing that they've talked about
Speaker 8: several players this offseason is kind of working on their
Speaker 8: body and and just taking care of their body and
Speaker 8: their recovery and all that. So it just it's interesting
Speaker 8: to me seeing how it affects players in the way
Speaker 8: they play. When you talk about younger guys, guys that
Speaker 8: you're gonna need, and you talk about the draft picks,
Speaker 8: I think there are a lot of guys in there
Speaker 8: that not necessarily are going to be starters, but you're
Speaker 8: definitely gonna need them, And just kind of seeing how
Speaker 8: it translates onto the field and their recovery time.
Speaker 6: You know, Honestly, I actually wonder if that's an advantage
Speaker 6: for a young team. I know they're not accustomed to it,
Speaker 6: but as we all know, because we're getting older, when
Speaker 6: you're younger, you recover a lot faster than you do
Speaker 6: as you get older. And I wonder if you've got
Speaker 6: a younger team having those short turnarounds or more of
Speaker 6: those games when you have short turnarounds, if that's actually
Speaker 6: better because your body can bounce back a little faster
Speaker 6: than maybe if you had a team full of thirty
Speaker 6: plus year olds.
Speaker 2: Right, it is, And I don't know.
Speaker 6: I've never played an NFL game, so I really couldn't
Speaker 6: tell you what it requires. But it does make me
Speaker 6: wonder if that's actually an advantage for a young team.
Speaker 3: Christmas Day is Giants in Philadelphia if you want to
Speaker 3: saw that on a Monday night. So you just gotta
Speaker 3: worry about the twenty fourth is when you gotta worry.
Speaker 6: And actually that's the cool thing about it is I'm
Speaker 6: more worried about, like, as long as we're not on
Speaker 6: Christmas Day, because then if you're on Christmas Day, you
Speaker 6: know there's a possible there's a fifty percent chance you
Speaker 6: could be on the road, which means you're now gone
Speaker 6: Christmas Eve into Christmas Day. That ain't ever fun. So
Speaker 6: we know that's not gonna be us issue.
Speaker 12: I saw that Black Friday game. That's actually terrible for
Speaker 12: a road team. Yeah, that's the worst. They just announced
Speaker 12: that by the way, Yeah, I mean like Jets and Dolphins,
Speaker 12: I believe, And it's like, I mean that should have been.
Speaker 12: That should have been like Jets and Patriots, ors, that
Speaker 12: should have been something really really closer than that, because
Speaker 12: you know, whoever's on the road, you leave on Thanksgiving
Speaker 12: Day and then you're all day Friday, and we know,
Speaker 12: you know, Thanksgiving is when when you get together, I mean,
Speaker 12: whenever it is, you have to figure it out. But
Speaker 12: if you're on a road team, you leave on Thursday
Speaker 12: and you're gone all day Friday for that night game,
Speaker 12: that's that's a tough one. That's actually just as tough
Speaker 12: as Christmas.
Speaker 6: And as we all know, I know for my family,
Speaker 6: this is what we do. We actually take Friday to
Speaker 6: be our Thanksgiving dinner, right, So now that's completely out
Speaker 6: if you're playing on Friday, so you miss Thursday because
Speaker 6: you're traveling, and you miss Friday when you would typically
Speaker 6: be able to kind of make that up. So yeah,
Speaker 6: that's honestly, these are the hard things that a lot
Speaker 6: of fans don't think about for players and their families
Speaker 6: and how they have to adapt to the NFL.
Speaker 11: Sch Christmas they just announced Christmas Night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Christmas is Philadelphia and the Giants train.
Speaker 11: I mean that's the way it should be. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 11: it is do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 12: It's quick and maybe even the day of you could
Speaker 12: possibly even say we're going to go the day of
Speaker 12: the game.
Speaker 3: I don't think the legal let you do that. They
Speaker 3: don't you have to be in. I think it's there's
Speaker 3: a roll on hours they have to be in before
Speaker 3: a game.
Speaker 10: All right, Nick cale Roger, get that change is get
Speaker 10: that fixed.
Speaker 3: Hey, you can do the preseason the preseason once.
Speaker 12: The only time I've ever been late, Yeah, the only
Speaker 12: time I've ever really been late was to the one time.
Speaker 11: Where we went the day of the game going to Denver.
Speaker 6: And you got told don't let that happen, and it
Speaker 6: had go through the back and go through the back,
Speaker 6: through the playing, through the players.
Speaker 2: And they're like you're the one that was holding this
Speaker 2: up right. Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was the worst.
Speaker 12: It was like worse than I mean, Michael Evan wasn't
Speaker 12: on that trip anymore, but it was like it was
Speaker 12: the first year Michael wasn't on the trip in two thousand,
Speaker 12: you know, because you know that was the thing, you know,
Speaker 12: when you were traveling and Michael was on the trip.
Speaker 12: It was like, what time is he going to be there?
Speaker 2: As long take off? When Michael gets here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember when I first started working here one
Speaker 8: of the trips, Yes, that was that was London. Well no, no, no,
Speaker 8: I'm talking about I wasn't there. I wasn't there. But
Speaker 8: when I started working here, you know, you know, I
Speaker 8: used to what time you got a head down to
Speaker 8: the buses and all that, and I remember I'm like,
Speaker 8: oh crap, I'm running late.
Speaker 7: You're trying to figure out what.
Speaker 8: Floor you need to go to to security and all that.
Speaker 8: And I remember being late, running late, feeling like I'm rushing,
Speaker 8: and then I see Dez. I'm like, okay, I'm good.
Speaker 8: You know, he's a big guy, you know, big star.
Speaker 7: I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 8: I'm walking down with him or whatever. And then later
Speaker 8: on I'm telling Hi Nick the story. I'm like running
Speaker 8: late or whatever, and he's like, that's not really a
Speaker 8: good thing. If you weren't with Dez, that's not really
Speaker 8: That means you weren't Like yeah, but I mean no,
Speaker 8: we're waiting on him.
Speaker 2: So it happens, Yeah, it happens. They're not leaving Das.
Speaker 6: Let's all right, we're gonna take our first break a
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna talk about draft grades.
Speaker 6: I know last week a lot of people were doing
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Speaker 6: do draft grades for the most recent draft.
Speaker 2: You do draft grades for.
Speaker 6: Previous years when you've actually seen some of these players play.
Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6: We're gonna draft grades over the last five years of
Speaker 6: drafts and tell you what we think about where the
Speaker 6: Cowboys are relative to how they've picked players.
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Speaker 6: we go, all right, let us what we're gonna do
Speaker 6: is we're gonna do some draft grades. I want to
Speaker 6: talk through the last five years of drafts, going back
Speaker 6: to twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: We're going to go through each.
Speaker 6: Draft and talk a little bit about where the Cowboys
Speaker 6: did well and maybe with a Cowboy wish they could
Speaker 6: have had a pick back or two. And then we'll
Speaker 6: kind of look at the totality of those five years
Speaker 6: and figure out what we think maybe was the best
Speaker 6: draft of that five year span.
Speaker 2: Let's start first.
Speaker 6: In twenty eighteen, first round, they select Layton vander ash
Speaker 6: second round, Connor Williams third round, Michael Gallup fourth round,
Speaker 6: Dorance Armstrong fourth round. Again, they got Dalton Schultz and
Speaker 6: then Mike White in the fifth round, Chris Covington and sixth,
Speaker 6: Cedric Wilson in the sixth and then they finished the
Speaker 6: draft in the seventh round with both Scarborough outside of
Speaker 6: the first round pick, which obviously in all of these years,
Speaker 6: the first round pick is going to be the standout player,
Speaker 6: and they've done extremely well in the first round where
Speaker 6: do you think is the what do you think was
Speaker 6: the best pick of.
Speaker 10: This draft outside of Layton vander USh.
Speaker 3: Probably the probably the Dalton Schultz pick if you look
Speaker 3: at it. Why I feel like though to me, when
Speaker 3: you that was a fourth round selection right there, you
Speaker 3: got seventy five games out of him, two hundred and
Speaker 3: eleven receptions for seventeen touchdowns, that was one of those
Speaker 3: those those picks I mean you could talk about. I
Speaker 3: think there's still some questions about Michael Gallup. Dorn S
Speaker 3: Armstrong I think has kind of developed into a nice player,
Speaker 3: But Dalton Schultz at that time in the fourth round,
Speaker 3: when you grab a guy that's had that many receptions,
Speaker 3: and you know, I guess you could say you can
Speaker 3: look at Michael Gallup has had probably about the same
Speaker 3: number of receptions, But I think that the one with
Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz that had the fourth round, that's some really
Speaker 3: good value right there for a player that you're thinking
Speaker 3: about grabbing a tight end. Now, maybe he didn't develop
Speaker 3: as the best blocker or anything like that, but if
Speaker 3: you look at what he was able to do the
Speaker 3: last several years for you and what a good player
Speaker 3: he became for the quarterback I would say that's that's
Speaker 3: the one that I would focus on right there for
Speaker 3: that particular round, other than the Leyton van der Esh pick.
Speaker 11: It's really good draft.
Speaker 12: That's one of the better, I mean drafts from top
Speaker 12: to box them that they've had, and some of them
Speaker 12: are they're drafted for other teams. You know, both Scarborough,
Speaker 12: you know, had a really good game against them one time.
Speaker 12: Mike White started for the Jets. So you know, by
Speaker 12: the way.
Speaker 6: There are only two guys in this draft that are
Speaker 6: out of the league at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scarborough. All the rest of them are still in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 12: It's a really good draft. I think Armstrong is a
Speaker 12: really good value picked there. And you know, Leyton wasn't
Speaker 12: all pro his first year. Injuries have kind of hurt him,
Speaker 12: of course, but you know, not everybody's still with them.
Speaker 12: Some Dolphins have two of these guys, I believe. But yeah,
Speaker 12: it's it's a good draft. I mean good draft. Shelton
Speaker 12: and Armstrong in the fourth round. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 12: where they've really had some success lately, is getting some
Speaker 12: good players in the fourth round.
Speaker 11: And those two picks were great.
Speaker 3: If Michael Gallup had not gotten hurt I think then,
Speaker 3: you know, and you'd had him playing you know, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe you know, going through I think last
Speaker 3: year we were kind of on the on the edge
Speaker 3: right now with Michael Gallup, you know, and where he's at.
Speaker 3: But you know, if if he'd had not had to
Speaker 3: go through that injury and stuff like that and had
Speaker 3: a good last year, you probably said, well, Okay, Michael
Speaker 3: Gallup's the one. But like I said, I go back
Speaker 3: to Dalton Schultz and what they at that particular spot
Speaker 3: in the draft, you know, pick one hundred and thirty seven.
Speaker 3: You know, you got some really really good value out
Speaker 3: of that for him. You got a franchise tag at him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he didn't re sign with you and all that, but
Speaker 3: the quarterback relied on him and the offense relied on
Speaker 3: him quite a bit.
Speaker 8: Well, hopefully Michael does come back better this year, because honestly,
Speaker 8: my memory on him is becoming quite faint, like he's
Speaker 8: fading away, remembering him making those good plays for you,
Speaker 8: and you know he has the talent, he's a dynamic player.
Speaker 8: But even looking at the sixth round Cedric Wilson, you.
Speaker 7: Get a guy that was.
Speaker 8: A guy that was able to do what he did
Speaker 8: for you during that year where Dak Prescott really started
Speaker 8: relying on him and using him. And that's a guy
Speaker 8: from the sixth round. So that was really really good.
Speaker 8: A guy that got a pretty nice contract somewhere else
Speaker 8: would have loved for the Cowboys to keep him. But yeah,
Speaker 8: all in all, looking up and down, like Nick said,
Speaker 8: it's pretty good. But yeah, good call him Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 8: For a guy that I definitely thought would not be
Speaker 8: here a long time ago, he made it work.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 6: Let's move on to the twenty nineteen draft. They had
Speaker 6: in the first and they didn't have a first round
Speaker 6: pick that year. In the second round, they drafted Tristan Hill,
Speaker 6: third round, Connor McGovern, fourth round, Tony Pollard. They selected
Speaker 6: the two Jackson's in the fifth round, Michael Jackson and
Speaker 6: Joe Jackson. In the sixth round they got Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 6: and in the seventh round they had Mike Webber and
Speaker 6: Jalen Jokes. That draft, which one do you think was
Speaker 6: the best pick? Because you got It's interesting you can
Speaker 6: look at it two different ways. You got Pollard, you
Speaker 6: got Wilson. Both are still with the team, both are
Speaker 6: playing really well. You got Pollard in the fourth round.
Speaker 6: You got Donovan Wilson in the sixth round. Yeah, which
Speaker 6: was the better pick for the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: Wilson all in all, I mean, he he's a guy
Speaker 8: that came in here and to me, especially on that
Speaker 8: position that you really needed a position that we talked
Speaker 8: about for the longest time.
Speaker 7: Safety. You need a safety.
Speaker 8: And then he comes in here and start making an
Speaker 8: impact quite fast. Honestly, the type of player that has
Speaker 8: no fear whatsoever. He just goes in their tackles and
Speaker 8: just doesn't even think. He just goes out and plays
Speaker 8: the game like you want him to play on defense.
Speaker 8: And looking at where he's at now with the Cowboys,
Speaker 8: looking everything he was given to you because you look
Speaker 8: at Tony Poller and you still had Zeke.
Speaker 7: You still had.
Speaker 8: Zeke taking care of most of the carries and at
Speaker 8: the running back position. So all they know Wilson at
Speaker 8: the sixth round. That was a very nice steal there.
Speaker 12: What I love about the Pollard pick is that it
Speaker 12: sounds like when they did their pre draft mock drafts
Speaker 12: with all the scouts go around the room. They I
Speaker 12: don't know how many times they do that, you know,
Speaker 12: ten twelve times maybe pollared every time it was pollared.
Speaker 12: Every time they got poll they targeted four the round
Speaker 12: and for third, fourth, sometimes fifth. But when he was
Speaker 12: there to pick, they always took him. They just loved
Speaker 12: him and they had a good role in vision for him,
Speaker 12: and it's turned out and think they thought he was
Speaker 12: going to be their franchise tag player in four years.
Speaker 12: But you know, I think that that's a great pick.
Speaker 12: I mean Donovan Wilson too. I think dan Quinn come
Speaker 12: and really helped him, kind of had a good vision
Speaker 12: for him. But Pollard, to me, that's that's a good
Speaker 12: you know, that was a great pick. Obviously Tristan Hill wasn't.
Speaker 12: But you know they got to Marii Cooper in the
Speaker 12: first round. You know they used that pick, and you
Speaker 12: know he made the Pro Bowl that year, so that
Speaker 12: was I'm.
Speaker 8: Still kind of confused as to what happened with him,
Speaker 8: Tristan Hill.
Speaker 2: But you know that's also the thing.
Speaker 6: I mean, Brian can tell you as well as anybody
Speaker 6: this drafting is not an exact science.
Speaker 2: Like there are times.
Speaker 6: When you're gonna think, you really know you're going to
Speaker 6: get a good player and you don't. There are other
Speaker 6: times when you're taking a flyer and you end up
Speaker 6: with a great player. Like, it's just not exact. You
Speaker 6: can't tell how a person is going to adapt to
Speaker 6: the end of there's so many unknown variables.
Speaker 2: It's just impossible.
Speaker 3: They knew the player. They knew the player. Rod Marinelli
Speaker 3: knew the player, and he went down there and he
Speaker 3: tried to learn everything he could about him. I think
Speaker 3: he did. It was I think it was up to
Speaker 3: the kid though, to you know, how much did he
Speaker 3: really really want to play. There were questions about him
Speaker 3: at Central Florida, you know, the coaching staff. They had
Speaker 3: to change in the coaching staff and all that, and
Speaker 3: there were people down there that were saying, listen, this
Speaker 3: kid really doesn't love football, and Rod, you know, and
Speaker 3: others felt like, well, we can, we can get it
Speaker 3: out of him. We can, We could put him in there.
Speaker 3: And there was times where Tristan Hill would show flashes
Speaker 3: of being successful and then something would happen to him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so he never got to the point where like
Speaker 3: a Tony Pollard, you know, you could say what you
Speaker 3: want about Tony Pollard's a great pick. The problem is
Speaker 3: they just last year figured out what to do with
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard. So Tony Pollard's numbers should be even greater
Speaker 3: for what he's able to do. And so, you know,
Speaker 3: and you mentioned the Donovan Wilson pick. I, you know,
Speaker 3: he's played eleven less games then Tony Pollard. But the
Speaker 3: sack totals, the tackles, the physicality plays with great value
Speaker 3: there for them in the sixth round.
Speaker 6: All right, let's move on to the twenty twenty draft.
Speaker 6: Cowboys selecting the first round Cedee Lamb, second round, Trayvon Diggs,
Speaker 6: third round, Neville Gallimore fourth round, Reggie Robinson the only
Speaker 6: player that is no longer in professional football from this draft.
Speaker 2: In the fourth round.
Speaker 6: Later in the fourth round they got Tyler Biattish. Fifth
Speaker 6: round they got Bradley and I and in the seventh
Speaker 6: round quarterback Ben Denucci, who is now playing in the
Speaker 6: XFLFLU And actually I just read the other day he's
Speaker 6: got a tryout with an NFL Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2: Yeahs been good, so so yeah, he's good in the XFL.
Speaker 6: Again, he's still playing professional football, still taking a crack
Speaker 6: at it. This draft looks like one where they've had
Speaker 6: some some success, which so which was outside of the
Speaker 6: first round, pick. Who's the best pick in this draft?
Speaker 6: I think we know?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I mean do we want to say without
Speaker 11: not let's.
Speaker 2: Take at the first end the second round?
Speaker 12: You know, but the first round pick is a great
Speaker 12: because they they said they were true to their board.
Speaker 12: I mean, they they didn't think that CD was gonna
Speaker 12: fall to them. Got to also remember this draft was done,
Speaker 12: you know, twenty twenty with COVID. We're just figuring out
Speaker 12: what's going on. It was done on a boat, right.
Speaker 12: I mean, it's like they did a great job of saying,
Speaker 12: all right, we don't know if we need a receiver.
Speaker 12: We have Amari Cooper and Gallop, but this guy's just
Speaker 12: what they say, the flashing light there it is. And
Speaker 12: and they you know, the Digs in Galimore, you know
Speaker 12: those were high. Those were first round grades they had
Speaker 12: on both those guys. So they got three first round grades.
Speaker 12: I believe that's right. It may maybe it wasn't the
Speaker 12: first round grade on Galimore, but they they had him
Speaker 12: grated higher than Diggs, but they took Digs because of
Speaker 12: the position.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. I'll change the question
Speaker 2: for you, guys.
Speaker 3: I was going to mention another player okay, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: go with that player. Then is Beatis has become an
Speaker 3: ascending center for you, and you got him at pick
Speaker 3: one forty six in the fourth round. And so the
Speaker 3: digs pick is as good as it was. It was
Speaker 3: the one that was the biggest noe because if they
Speaker 3: got wiped out at seventeen, the thought was that they
Speaker 3: would take digs in the first round. But the fact
Speaker 3: that they trusted their board, they took CD and then
Speaker 3: the draft came back around to him. And it's rare
Speaker 3: that that happens, very rare that it happens. They just
Speaker 3: happened to sitting in the middle of the board and
Speaker 3: Digs got to him at fifty one. But you just
Speaker 3: got a starting center that is ascending at one forty six.
Speaker 3: You know that's Those are the ones that will you
Speaker 3: should pat everybody on the back in the room because
Speaker 3: the lamb and the digs are no brainers. Those are
Speaker 3: no brainer picks. The the oddist one was the one, well,
Speaker 3: Wisconsin Center, could we you know what, you know, he's
Speaker 3: not really highly rated. You know, they hit one on
Speaker 3: that guy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that one turned out pretty nicely, even though at
Speaker 8: the time it didn't seem so to me personally, because
Speaker 8: I felt like, oh, they're doing just fine with Joe
Speaker 8: Looney and what he's been doing there after Travis Frederick
Speaker 8: being out. But you look at now that time has
Speaker 8: gone by and you look at it, okay, where it's
Speaker 8: ad from where it was and the development, and he
Speaker 8: hasn't been absolutely perfect, but I think he's giving you
Speaker 8: a solid game, and he's given you what you need
Speaker 8: at the center position taking into account all the other
Speaker 8: issues you've constantly been having in the rest of the
Speaker 8: all line. So I think they they got really lucky
Speaker 8: to get a guy like him at that in the
Speaker 8: fourth round.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna flip the question on you. Guys.
Speaker 6: We have been taking the first round pick out of it.
Speaker 6: But if you had to compare Digs to Parsons, I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: Dig that Parsons.
Speaker 10: Digs to Lamb, which was a better pick for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Lamb Diggs, Why tell me why.
Speaker 3: I think the thing with Lamb is that to me,
Speaker 3: you know, you you look at the development. I still
Speaker 3: think there's some questions about Digs. I think there's some
Speaker 3: still some questions about h him being a complete player,
Speaker 3: and I think that you know, the interceptions and all that.
Speaker 3: The ball skills, no question about that. You know, is
Speaker 3: there is the when I talk about complete player, the
Speaker 3: willingness to tackle, the willingness to be in there, the
Speaker 3: willingness to mix it up and stuff like that. Lamb
Speaker 3: to me is one of I think Lamb's a complete player.
Speaker 3: I think Lamb will do whatever he has to do
Speaker 3: to have success. You know, he's not going to turn
Speaker 3: away from things. He's going to go out there. If
Speaker 3: they ask him to go make a big play, He's
Speaker 3: going to find a way to make the big play.
Speaker 3: He'll block out on the edge. He will do whatever
Speaker 3: you have to do. So if you just talk about
Speaker 3: the complete player aspect of the two players, Lamb over Digs,
Speaker 3: for me, I go.
Speaker 12: With Diggs as the better pick just because of the value,
Speaker 12: just because of the second round and the first round
Speaker 12: and how Lamb kind of fell to them. They've both
Speaker 12: been great in their own way. You know, I think
Speaker 12: Digs they're both going to get contracts coming up, maybe
Speaker 12: one of them probably here in a few months, I
Speaker 12: would think, and I don't know about Lamb, but I
Speaker 12: think Digs will be the highest paid cornerback in the league.
Speaker 12: And so you know, that they've both been been really
Speaker 12: really good. You know, all prosy, they've both been All pros.
Speaker 12: So you get too all pros and then a pro
Speaker 12: bowler in the fourth round. I mean that that is
Speaker 12: your I mean you'll never be the nineteen sixty four
Speaker 12: draft with three Hall of Famers, but you know that's
Speaker 12: that has a chance to be one of the top
Speaker 12: drafts of all time if these players continue to go
Speaker 12: in the direction they're going.
Speaker 3: League missed on both those players. Yeah, yeah, League missed
Speaker 3: on both. You You were you You took advantage of
Speaker 3: the league on two players. That that we're talking about
Speaker 3: is who's better, and they're both really you could throw
Speaker 3: a blanket over both. But like I said, you know,
Speaker 3: the league just showed you right there. Dallas did a
Speaker 3: great job of being in position to make this thing
Speaker 3: happen real quick.
Speaker 6: I need to make a correction. I said Reggie Robinson
Speaker 6: was not playing football.
Speaker 2: He actually is.
Speaker 6: Chris Beam, our producer, just told me in my ear
Speaker 6: that he actually is on the Washington Defenders in the
Speaker 6: XFL will be playing in their championship. They against are
Speaker 6: still playing in professional football, not obviously in the NFL,
Speaker 6: but still playing in professional good football.
Speaker 2: Good for him.
Speaker 12: You know, let me just say something about Reggie Robinson
Speaker 12: and that draft. Those guys right there, they got I
Speaker 12: don't know if you say they got screwed, but they did.
Speaker 11: They did.
Speaker 12: He is a player, He's a fourth round pick from Tulsa.
Speaker 12: He's a special teams guy. He needs preseason games. He
Speaker 12: needed to go out there and show what he could do,
Speaker 12: block a punt, be a gunner, play some snaps on
Speaker 12: the fourth quarter.
Speaker 11: He didn't.
Speaker 12: Bradley and I Ben Denucci, those guys needed to do that.
Speaker 12: They needed to play, just like all these young players.
Speaker 12: And so it's very unfortunate for those players in twenty twenty,
Speaker 12: those undrafted guys. Give Terrence Steel a ton of credit
Speaker 12: because he didn't have that and he figured out a
Speaker 12: way to do it in camp. But some of those
Speaker 12: players I thought were you know, it's just unfortunate that
Speaker 12: they didn't get this.
Speaker 3: Well. To your point, Reggie was a Will McClay pick.
Speaker 3: That was Will was championing that pick, and the problem
Speaker 3: is they couldn't find a spot for him. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: tried to play a corner safety corner. They're doing the
Speaker 3: same thing with Josh Ball right now. They're trying to
Speaker 3: find a spot for a guy that they that they
Speaker 3: picked in the fourth round.
Speaker 6: It's one of the reasons I love what's happening with
Speaker 6: the XFL and the USFL now because for guys like them,
Speaker 6: maybe they do get that second shot to go play
Speaker 6: football and then they can work their way back up
Speaker 6: into maybe getting an opportunity NFL.
Speaker 11: Anybody think that maybe I wish they could figure out
Speaker 11: way could they.
Speaker 6: Merge who USFL and XFL. Yeah, you gotta talk to
Speaker 6: the owners of those, that's their choice.
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, I'm already I already got to talk
Speaker 11: to Goodell.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you got a lot on your plate here.
Speaker 11: Well, I'm just I just man, it's like which league
Speaker 11: is which? I mean, just just get it all together.
Speaker 6: I don't like XFL USFL. I get a little confused,
Speaker 6: but I will tell this, I actually have enjoyed some
Speaker 6: games here in the offseason. I like some of the
Speaker 6: rules around XFL, Like it's a It's an entertaining product
Speaker 6: to watch because of how they have it in the
Speaker 6: both the extra points and the scores. You can you
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Speaker 11: In the last No, do you watch hockey. Nope. Do
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Speaker 2: Well, my son's into it, so I have.
Speaker 11: That's good.
Speaker 12: But I'm just saying, you know, for those it is,
Speaker 12: you know, people that love football is something else.
Speaker 11: You know a lot of people like it.
Speaker 6: It's my thing right now because I'm not really that
Speaker 6: into a lot of the other things.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back. Final segment of the break. We're talking about
Speaker 6: the draft. We're giving draft grades. We will do that
Speaker 6: at some point here in this conversation. I'm gonna make you, guys,
Speaker 6: give me a grade for each of these drafts. Let's
Speaker 6: talk about the twenty twenty one draft. That's where the
Speaker 6: Cowboys landed, maybe by some people's estimations, a bit of
Speaker 6: a blessing. It wasn't necessarily all they're doing, but they
Speaker 6: land Michael Parsons in the first round. Second round they
Speaker 6: get Kelvin Joseph, Third round they get OsO, Diggy zoo A,
Speaker 6: Chauncey Golston, and Nayshn Wright. And then in fourth round
Speaker 6: they got Jabril Cox and Josh Ball, fifth round Semi Fajoko,
Speaker 6: sixth round Quentin Bohanna and Israel Mukuamu.
Speaker 11: And then in the.
Speaker 6: Seventh round Matt farniok best pick of the draft outside
Speaker 6: of Mark Michael Parsons. And this one's a little harder
Speaker 6: because there's some interesting names here.
Speaker 3: It's got to be Osa, is what I think. But
Speaker 3: I would say this, I think because Osa, I think
Speaker 3: is on his way up. The fact we'll see with
Speaker 3: him and Mazy playing next to each other, I think
Speaker 3: that will be a good combination that'll help Osa have
Speaker 3: that opportunity. He just keeps getting better with this coach
Speaker 3: and staff. And the next one to me would be Chauncey,
Speaker 3: because I think Chuncey's got an opportunity as well. Those
Speaker 3: are two of those three techniques. Those guys that play
Speaker 3: on that outside shoulder, they get up the field the
Speaker 3: way that they do, and so yeah, I kind of
Speaker 3: feel like that those would be the ones that I
Speaker 3: would surely keep an eye on.
Speaker 12: This has a chance to be the nineteen ninety draft
Speaker 12: where they took Smith, Alexander Wright, Stance mcgala, Jimmy Jones,
Speaker 12: Kenny Ganton, Dave Harper. And it was a really good draft,
Speaker 12: was that Nim Smith? Yeah, because of Emmitt Smith?
Speaker 11: Like that. It was a really good draft.
Speaker 6: Because you got m Are you saying yeah, are you?
Speaker 6: Are you saying that Mike is just so great? Doesn't
Speaker 6: matter with everybody else, does it.
Speaker 12: It's going to be a good draft because they got
Speaker 12: lucky and they got Micah Parsons. And I don't know
Speaker 12: if these other guys as great as that first round
Speaker 12: pick was, the second round.
Speaker 11: Pick was not a good pick. It's not.
Speaker 12: And Kelvin Joseph he has timed, I guess to turn
Speaker 12: it around, I think, but so far it hasn't been
Speaker 12: second round pick at cornerback barely playing special playing special teams.
Speaker 11: They can't.
Speaker 12: They got to get guys off the street to play
Speaker 12: corner because guys are heard and not the second and
Speaker 12: third round pick. Let's don't forgetting a Sean Wright in
Speaker 12: there too. So yeah, you know they've had Jabrill Cox.
Speaker 12: I mean they had some guys.
Speaker 7: It was Christy.
Speaker 8: This is like the longest list, like this is where
Speaker 8: you had the most picks and you look at all
Speaker 8: those names and I'm like, eh, nah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's not yet has a chance with Sorry,
Speaker 6: let's be clear.
Speaker 3: Well Kuamu has been better than Nashan Wright, which and
Speaker 3: that was a six round pick and he's been better.
Speaker 3: We're still waiting on Jabril Cox. That's one of those things.
Speaker 3: And talking to some guys in the organization about that,
Speaker 3: it was always you know, one step forward, two steps
Speaker 3: back with him, you know, with getting him on the
Speaker 3: field and things. So and Simmi Fork, I see he's
Speaker 3: doing a great job of catching fish. I saw twin.
Speaker 2: Really you gave a shout out.
Speaker 3: Nice looking fish he had there. So I might have
Speaker 3: to get him on the boat here soon.
Speaker 11: He's not he's going to be the best for Hoko
Speaker 11: on the team.
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing about But see that's the thing
Speaker 3: too in Bohanna. We've waiting, We've been waiting everybody Nick.
Speaker 3: For years, Nick has asked for two things in this organization.
Speaker 3: Give me a vertical route runner and give me a big,
Speaker 3: sloppy guy in the middle. And got and and and
Speaker 3: that's you know, that's the thing with Bohanna. That's twenty
Speaker 3: seven games that we're all kind of like, is he
Speaker 3: active this week? Is he inactive? What are we doing
Speaker 3: over there? You know? So there's there's a lot more
Speaker 3: questions about this draft.
Speaker 2: Josh Ball.
Speaker 3: To me, there's a fourth round offensive lineman I think,
Speaker 3: awesome Richards who they took right now and this draft
Speaker 3: is a better player than Josh Ball. Just watching them play,
Speaker 3: I know he's a better player. So there's they've gambled
Speaker 3: on some of these guys in this draft, and and
Speaker 3: and you know, and it has it and has it
Speaker 3: paid all for him like they thought it would.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the fact that they had to go
Speaker 6: out and make a move for a Gilmore, the fact
Speaker 6: that they drafted Mazi to me, is as much an
Speaker 6: indictment on what they've seen from the cornerbacks in this draft,
Speaker 6: what they've seen from Quinton Bohanna. They're like, we're not
Speaker 6: getting what we need, so we're gonna have to go
Speaker 6: either back to the draft to get it, or we're
Speaker 6: gonna have to go out and free Agen.
Speaker 3: They traded for Hankins.
Speaker 2: They traded for Hankins as well. Right, hanks is a huge.
Speaker 3: Because Quin Bohannah and I know it's a sixth round pick,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna also be real honest and fair here.
Speaker 3: The nay Shaan Wright pick was Dan Quinn went to Corvallis,
Speaker 3: Oregon and worked that one out. You know. He also
Speaker 3: went to Lexington, Kentucky to see Kelvin Joseph. He also
Speaker 3: saw Quentin Bohanna that day, you know. So you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's some times where you go yeah, yeah, yay,
Speaker 3: and then the times like whoa, what were you thinking there?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 12: I don't know how far we're gonna go on this,
Speaker 12: but I mean, I think twenty twenty two the guys
Speaker 12: have been more productive than twenty twenty one, and then
Speaker 12: they've only.
Speaker 11: Hit that in one year time.
Speaker 6: Let's let's run down those names real quick. Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6: You got in the first round Tyler Smith, who's been
Speaker 6: really good.
Speaker 3: They proved a on him, yes.
Speaker 6: Second round, Sam Williams, third round, Jalen Tolbert, fourth round,
Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 2: Fifth round.
Speaker 6: They had a number of picks there, Matt Will, let's go,
Speaker 6: Deron Bland, damoone Clark, John Ridgeway, who's no longer with
Speaker 6: the team but playing a prominent role in Washington. And
Speaker 6: then the sixth round Devin Harper, tell me the best
Speaker 6: pick of that draft, because other than Tyler Smith, there's
Speaker 6: a lot of names you could put up there and
Speaker 6: say I think this guy is the best or will
Speaker 6: be the best of this draft.
Speaker 3: Got to be Bland.
Speaker 11: That was a great pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah. See, they proved us wrong in a couple of
Speaker 3: areas too, and and me personally, I was wrong about
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith. I was too high on Jalen Tolbert. Well,
Speaker 3: let's go. I think is one that's got some promise
Speaker 3: to it. I like what they with awesome Richards, Matt Will,
Speaker 3: let's go, got maybe a couple of young tackles. They're Bland, Bland.
Speaker 3: He we went to school at Fresno State. He should
Speaker 3: have been playing at Washington or U C.
Speaker 11: L A or USC.
Speaker 3: They they stole him and Harper. I think the thing
Speaker 3: with Devin Harper is the linebacker they got in the
Speaker 3: sixth that cat can run, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that when you maybe this
Speaker 3: maybe this is the training camp for him, when you
Speaker 3: start to see, oh wait, they've got some maybe some
Speaker 3: depth problems that linebacker. No they don't. A guy like
Speaker 3: Devin Harper steps up and helps him make some plays.
Speaker 12: And and also you know, if if they were really
Speaker 12: really like worried about tight end, they would have signed
Speaker 12: Dalton Schultz when espersonally when no one was signing him,
Speaker 12: or they would have said I could take any tight
Speaker 12: end in the first round if they if they really
Speaker 12: wanted to, uh, maybe not Kinkaid, but they they would
Speaker 12: have taken other guy's and they could have addressed that.
Speaker 12: So Jake Ferguson to me, is good enough. Him and
Speaker 12: Hindershot combined, they're good enough to say, you know what
Speaker 12: we we like where we're headed here. Yeah, we could
Speaker 12: get better. They went second round, but but Ferguson's a
Speaker 12: good enough pick.
Speaker 11: Too for them liking what they And when you.
Speaker 6: Think about it from this standpoint, the number of guys
Speaker 6: in this draft that last year's rookies flashed, Which that's
Speaker 6: what you're really trying for me, That's what I'm trying
Speaker 6: to see in that first year, Sam Williams, Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 6: Matt Well, let's go.
Speaker 2: Even though it was a for short period in camp,
Speaker 2: he had some moments where.
Speaker 3: You like, he was better than the ball and he
Speaker 3: was hurt the whole Timely, Yeah.
Speaker 11: Deron Blaine might bessing. Damone Clark, that might be the
Speaker 11: best pick of them. Clark he was off boards.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and they said, no, we have a chance he's
Speaker 12: gonna play and contribute this year.
Speaker 11: We were wrong about him to Now.
Speaker 6: We'll see how they develop at this point. But they're
Speaker 6: all flashing at this point, which is what you want
Speaker 6: to see in that.
Speaker 3: First Okay, let me ask the panel question here real
Speaker 3: quick before we get out of here. Sam Williams have
Speaker 3: more sacks this year than DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I think so.
Speaker 6: I think this is gonna be a year for him
Speaker 6: where he's gonna come into his own.
Speaker 12: He led the team in tackles for losses. That's amazing
Speaker 12: considering how limited he plays.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 8: I think the teams will give more attention to a
Speaker 8: guy like DeMarcus Lawrence. Therefore he's gonna be busy dealing
Speaker 8: with that meanwhile, giving a guy like Sam Williams a
Speaker 8: little more freedom opportunities for him to take advantage of.
Speaker 6: I actually wonder if this year we'll start to see
Speaker 6: them pop tank down to defensive tackle down there and
Speaker 6: obvious passing downs and put Sam Williams on the outside.
Speaker 6: I think that may be your best kind of lineup
Speaker 6: with at the other tackle, and then put your and
Speaker 6: then put Michael on the other end. I think that
Speaker 6: you give me those four, I think you make some
Speaker 6: you can do some damage, some real damage. All right,
Speaker 6: All that being said, we're gonna go back through these
Speaker 6: drafts and want you to give me a grade for
Speaker 6: the last five years worth of draft.
Speaker 2: Let's start with twenty eighteen. Where would you grade it?
Speaker 8: We should have done this right after discussing everyone right.
Speaker 6: Right down, ask Williams, Gallup, Armstrong, Schultz, Mike White, Covington, Wilson,
Speaker 6: and B.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I would say B plus but but but but
Speaker 12: a good really good solid top to bottom. Got good players.
Speaker 7: There, yes, B as well?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 6: Twenty nineteen Tristan Hill, Connor McGovern, Tony Pollard, Michael Jackson,
Speaker 6: Joe Jackson, Donovan Wilson, Mike Weber, Jalen Jelks.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm gonna C plus because because you didn't have
Speaker 12: a first round pick, and your first round pick made
Speaker 12: it to the Pro Bowl, so that that's pretty good.
Speaker 12: But still some of these other yeah, C.
Speaker 8: Plus okay, sure, same and the plus mainly because of Wilson.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, uh twenty twenty Lamb, Diggs, Gallimore, Robinson, Beattish,
Speaker 6: an I and Danucci A plus?
Speaker 11: What A plus?
Speaker 2: A plus?
Speaker 12: Can't get better than that? I mean, how could he
Speaker 12: get better than that? Sorry, I'm sorry if you can disagree, I.
Speaker 11: Mean I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I was gonna go I was just gonna go straight A.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Amber, I.
Speaker 11: Don't know anything about straight A.
Speaker 7: Like, let's go with an A, all right?
Speaker 2: So yeah, A A and A plus. All right, let's
Speaker 2: go to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 6: You got Michael Parsons, Calvin, Joseph, Diggie, Zua, Golston, Right Cox, Ball,
Speaker 6: Fejoko Bohanna, mccuamu and FARNIOC.
Speaker 3: Plus C plus, Like, I know, you got one of
Speaker 3: the best players in football, but it's a C plus.
Speaker 3: It is a C plus because of the of the
Speaker 3: quantity they have. If if they had two or three
Speaker 3: more guys step up, and they're gonna and maybe it's
Speaker 3: maybe it's Osin, maybe it's Goldston, and that would take
Speaker 3: the C plus to me to a solid B, maybe
Speaker 3: even I think solid B if those guys stepped up.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go, what about what about mcuamo if
Speaker 2: he also steps up?
Speaker 8: Two years out of that? You know, like you keep thinking,
Speaker 8: we're only to me. It feels very fresh, and you think, oh,
Speaker 8: let's wait for one player right now.
Speaker 7: Two years.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and they got one, for sure, they got one.
Speaker 2: Let's not also the player.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, this is a player.
Speaker 3: But they got to put They've got a lot of
Speaker 3: potential fs on here too.
Speaker 12: And the thing about it is is they backed into Micah.
Speaker 12: Let's just be honest about it.
Speaker 3: That counts to It counts Sometimes the draft gods smile
Speaker 3: and get it make you some luck.
Speaker 12: But not only did they back into it, but they
Speaker 12: were like, let's see if we can get a third
Speaker 12: round pick out of this. I don't think the Eagles
Speaker 12: or the Giants are going to take this guy at eleven.
Speaker 12: Let's trade or at nine, let's trade back to ten.
Speaker 3: Especially when you're holding on them corners. These corners go
Speaker 3: right in front of let's.
Speaker 11: Just let's just move back.
Speaker 12: And I mean, if somebody would have screwed him over
Speaker 12: been like, yeah, we told him we were taking Devonte Smith,
Speaker 12: but we're really taking Micah, they would have slept.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and that's right until now.
Speaker 3: So now, but let the quarterback on this scene.
Speaker 6: They back, They tried to select quarterback in that draft
Speaker 6: almost and then they finally got to the fourth round
Speaker 6: and we're like, well, yeah, they took them. So I
Speaker 6: mean sometimes it just happens like that.
Speaker 2: You happen to look up.
Speaker 12: You got to you got a guy that's competing for
Speaker 12: Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 11: But those other guys. You hit a lot of other
Speaker 11: guys and none of them have really hit yet.
Speaker 3: Charles Tapper before Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the rest of the league, by the way,
Speaker 2: the lesson.
Speaker 3: The rest of the league passed for Charles Tapper is
Speaker 3: a nice man.
Speaker 11: Somewhere.
Speaker 7: Is he still playing?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: He's probably doing doing someone with business.
Speaker 2: Probably a really good guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, last draft, last draft, Tyler Smith, Sam Williams, Jalen Tolbert,
Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson, Let's go to Ron Blando, Mon Clark, John Ridgeway,
Speaker 6: and Devin Harper.
Speaker 7: Minus for me, Yes.
Speaker 3: B B has a chance to be a plus. With
Speaker 3: Jayleen Tolbert.
Speaker 12: And Sam Williams, I think can maybe take it to
Speaker 12: the next one.
Speaker 3: Let's go, well, let's go with Clark. Clark would be
Speaker 3: the one that could take it to an.
Speaker 6: Exactly if he starts to be a real player. Now
Speaker 6: you just you just killed it.
Speaker 7: That's the thing.
Speaker 8: I still see a lot of potential with a lot
Speaker 8: of these guys, and some.
Speaker 2: Of them which you should in the second show.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and Bland and we talked about Williams, even
Speaker 8: Ferguson Tolbert, we haven't seen that from him. But these
Speaker 8: guys are guys that were thrown out there and you
Speaker 8: needed them to step up and give you something as rookies,
Speaker 8: which you know that there's a learning curve to be
Speaker 8: to happen there.
Speaker 7: So I think that they did pretty well, pretty well first.
Speaker 8: Year, and they can definitely take us their next step
Speaker 8: this second year. So so far from me, A minus.
Speaker 2: All right, that's our draft grades. We appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3: John.
Speaker 2: We'll be back next week.
Speaker 6: Next week we actually get started with rookie Minnichamp toward
Speaker 6: the end of next week, so we'll have more of that.
Speaker 6: Make sure you check us out tomorrow. We'll have some
Speaker 6: fun content for you guys for schedule release. Till then
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