WEBVTT - Why is the Government Shutdown?

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<v Speaker 1>That's because it is our ninety ninth episode, and I

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I had a muzzle on any.

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<v Speaker 5>We've played a clip where Andrew was that guy? Why

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<v Speaker 5>didn't we bring that?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it's our ninety ninth episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Ninety nine problems and Hamilton, Amen to that, Amen to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really excited to get into the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to our rundown, I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday, so do please tune into that. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on right now. So what are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today?

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<v Speaker 5>Angela? What you got?

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<v Speaker 7>I got a lot of stuff, But I think what

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<v Speaker 7>we are going to lean into a little bit is

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<v Speaker 7>why Megan Kelly is on Serena's head. That's one question

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<v Speaker 7>I have. That's one question I have. I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 7>y'all get into the other ones because I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>which ones y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>Want to start. Well, you'll come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Kellys there she got after our girl Jamel, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jamel dragged her clear and cross America the last time,

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<v Speaker 1>so she hasn't learned her lesson yet to keep black

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<v Speaker 1>women's name out.

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<v Speaker 5>Andrew, what you got?

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<v Speaker 7>What's easy to do when you're tweeting in the basement

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<v Speaker 7>in your drawers, fair point, and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Not catch outside topic?

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<v Speaker 5>We r Andrew.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk about the new threat facing not

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<v Speaker 4>just democracy, but the new threat that could be coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Really straight up our block.

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<v Speaker 4>What Trump and his new executive memo suggest about where

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<v Speaker 4>this democracy is going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and you mentioned that earlier on the call, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really looking forward to your breakdown on that

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<v Speaker 1>because I have some questions for you and definitely some thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we're talking about where democracy is going, I

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<v Speaker 1>think right now we are at a complete standstill literally

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<v Speaker 1>and figuratively. And that is, of course because the government

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<v Speaker 1>shut down this week, and that is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a devastating impact for a lot of people. So I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely want to talk about that, and I do, if

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<v Speaker 1>there's time, want to get into this bad Bunny super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl performance which has taken the group chats, the newscasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and the internets by storm. So I'm curious your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we all agree about what this means,

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<v Speaker 1>but I definitely want to get into that discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>With you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>So and of course questions.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, thank you Andrew, we will get into your

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<v Speaker 1>viewer questions and thank you guys so much for sending

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<v Speaker 1>as well as it's yours. So welcome home, y'all. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into the show. Okay, before we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>government shutdown. Can I just say really quickly, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to pass the mic to Angela on this one actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just want to say before I pass the

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<v Speaker 1>mic about our show that we did live from the

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<v Speaker 1>Congressional Black Caucus Foundations Annual Legislative Conference, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say thank you all so much for tuning in. I

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<v Speaker 1>know there were some audio problems, and so we have

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<v Speaker 1>reposted the show without those audio problems, so please definitely

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<v Speaker 1>check that out. But a lot of you all just

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<v Speaker 1>suffer through and listen to the show with the audio problems,

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<v Speaker 1>so we did repost it for you. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>checked that out, definitely please do. Great guests, we sat

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<v Speaker 1>down with Governor Wes Moore and his wife. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is what and I didn't say this on a call

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<v Speaker 1>this morning intentionally because I wanted to say it on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. You know, I our friendship stretches decades at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. You know, I've known you guys for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like you can take friendship for granted

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<v Speaker 1>when you know people for a while, Like I can

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<v Speaker 1>call angel it too in the morning if I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Andrew, I can be like I'm coming to

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<v Speaker 1>Tallahas he let's kick it. And when Angela you gave

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<v Speaker 1>your acceptance speech, I was so moved. And your father

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<v Speaker 1>was seated next to me. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the viewers will get to hear this, Please please please

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<v Speaker 1>watch it on the CBCF Annual Legislative Conference show. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you closed out the speech, your father was saying

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<v Speaker 1>the words with you, because of course you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>close it out, the black power anthem. And he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even say it like like he wanted to erupt an applause,

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<v Speaker 1>like he said it like casually and was just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Angela. I was like bursting inside, like I was.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all trying not to choke up. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the show. I wanted to stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and applaud, but Papa Rye was just sitting there like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like what else she supposed? That's why I raised, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is, right. It was such a beautiful moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent that speech to everybody. I've been telling everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to watch it. I was on Doctor Carr Show this

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<v Speaker 1>week on Serious XM. I talked about it on that show,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just wanted to say, like it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those moments where I was like, I take for

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<v Speaker 1>granted that I get to be friends with people I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fans of. I get to be friends with people who

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<v Speaker 1>I admire, and I'm not gonna lie. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little mad when she was reading that speech. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel when I asked Michael Harry, like he's like

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<v Speaker 1>up writing all day and then he comes and sends

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<v Speaker 1>me what he wrote, and I'm like, you wrote that today,

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<v Speaker 1>just in one tribe, that's what you did. Well, she was,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, please tell me it took you six months

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<v Speaker 1>to write that, because it was it would take me

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<v Speaker 1>six months to write that. So I just am thrilled,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to say that. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it on the call. I wanted to say it

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<v Speaker 1>to you in front of our audience. So super dope,

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<v Speaker 1>super dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon soon, I think I said to you that night

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<v Speaker 3>like twice or three times, like I was really pierced. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt that. I felt that.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you're used to and you are used to

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<v Speaker 4>giving and certainly being on the receiving end of speeches,

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<v Speaker 4>you can become numbs sometimes to the words that come

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<v Speaker 4>out of people's mouths. But for you, Angela It's different

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<v Speaker 4>because we know you. You don't traffic it insignificance.

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<v Speaker 3>If you stay in a bar. It's a thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>it had resonance. It really did that night.

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<v Speaker 8>You and.

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<v Speaker 4>A few others have particularly impact, but your standouts to me,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's no more deserving person of that distinguished honor

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<v Speaker 4>from Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>My only regret is that that whole room didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>to hear what we got to hear. But they can

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<v Speaker 3>hear it now if they go to Natives.

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<v Speaker 5>They subscribe just if I can for a moment.

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<v Speaker 7>And I know we're probably gonna get into the government shutdown,

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<v Speaker 7>given the fact that now the government is in fact

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<v Speaker 7>shut down, but I just wanted to shout this out

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<v Speaker 7>to you guys. I ended up having an all star

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<v Speaker 7>studied cast yesterday for our first on Tuesday for the.

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<v Speaker 5>Solo Pod.

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<v Speaker 7>Congressman Maxine Waters, where I worked for my first political

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<v Speaker 7>job was with her, was on talking about the shutdown.

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<v Speaker 7>Jasmine Crockett joined us as well to talk about the shutdown,

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<v Speaker 7>but also talking about the fear she experiences right now

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<v Speaker 7>and in real vulnerability in ways that really just touched

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<v Speaker 7>me because I feel like our sister always has to

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<v Speaker 7>show up in strength. So I'm so grateful that we

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<v Speaker 7>were able to cultivate a safe space for her to

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<v Speaker 7>really share how she feels in this moment. But also

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<v Speaker 7>there was another woman who we love dearly on this

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<v Speaker 7>show who joined us on the live show Saturday but

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<v Speaker 7>had to leave. Otherwise we certainly would have given her

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<v Speaker 7>the opportunity to also share the remarks she prepared. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's jo Taka Edie, who received the alc CO Chairs

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<v Speaker 7>Phoenix Award.

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<v Speaker 5>She shared a beautiful speech.

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<v Speaker 7>I know that it will drop on socials Wednesday if

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<v Speaker 7>you are listening to this later, it will drop Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 7>But I want to show her out too, because her

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<v Speaker 7>speech is remarkable. So I want to thank y'all because

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<v Speaker 7>none of the work that I'm doing would be possible

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<v Speaker 7>without your grace, without understanding, without leaning in with us.

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<v Speaker 5>And so y'all are my Phoenix Award winners every day.

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<v Speaker 5>So thank you so much. But let me tell you

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<v Speaker 5>who is not the Phoenix Awards winner.

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<v Speaker 7>Y'all's president, because why the government shut down and why

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<v Speaker 7>they trying to blame it on Democrats, on hood websites

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<v Speaker 7>everywhere else, tip get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>What we do. Let's get going on Well, you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up that you got to talk to Congressman Jazmin Crockett

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<v Speaker 1>this week on your solo pods, so I definitely, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mind, I want to hear a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>what she said. If people want to hear that whole conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, they can check it out on our YouTube page.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not listened to the whole thing yet, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear what Congresswoman Crockett had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want to set the frame a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and forgive me if this is redundant, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you guys got into it a bit this week.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to make the point that this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a normal shutdown, and I want to draw the

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<v Speaker 1>distinction of what would have happened had Democrats access the

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<v Speaker 1>Congressional resolution. It would have essentially given a green light

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<v Speaker 1>to Donald Trump to continue his cuts to PBS. It

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<v Speaker 1>would cut to cuts to foreign aid programs. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be a green light to his big beautiful Bill that

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<v Speaker 1>they call it, which essentially gives the richest Americans tax cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>which would don't for a minute doubt it. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be financed by cuts to Medicaid Medicare. I have members

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<v Speaker 1>of my family on both food stamps. I have members

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<v Speaker 1>in my immediate family on food stamps, clean energy resolutions.

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<v Speaker 1>This bill would also make it harder for Americans to

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<v Speaker 1>afford healthcare. And so the Democrats were calling, and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know, I am not a spokesperson for the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to be a voter who votes Democrat. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is not in any way and owe to the party.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just giving information. It's it's difficult to excuse a

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<v Speaker 1>shut down ever, because I get the frustration and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to hit peop. But I think it was important

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<v Speaker 1>that Democrats held the line here. They don't control the

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<v Speaker 1>House or the Senate. And so when you hear the

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<v Speaker 1>GOP talking points that this is the Schumer shut down

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<v Speaker 1>or this is the Democrats shut down, impossible. When they

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<v Speaker 1>first passed the bill, the Big Beautiful Bill first passed

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate last July, it only required fifty one Republican votes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they need it more so, Democrats all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden became really important to pass this legislation. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>it means now that the government has shut down, In

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, it's essentially been shut down for almost nine

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<v Speaker 1>months now, the government hasn't been functional. They've consolidated power

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<v Speaker 1>to the executive branch, so we really haven't seen a

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<v Speaker 1>functional government. But now the shit is hit the van.

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<v Speaker 1>So the shutdown is expected to put at least forty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the federal workforce, about seven hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people on unpaid leave. But don't get it twisted,

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<v Speaker 1>they would not be the only people impacted. The GOP

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<v Speaker 1>claims to be the party that supports the Military Will

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<v Speaker 1>Act of Duty. Military service members will not receive a

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<v Speaker 1>paycheck during the government shutdown. The White House has also

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<v Speaker 1>threatened mass layoffs. This is a reduction in workforce and

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<v Speaker 1>federal toises after they've already laid off so many people

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<v Speaker 1>given furlough notices in the case of a shutdown. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>some people argue this is illegal, and this has been

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<v Speaker 1>basically a threat from the Office of Management Budget Director

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<v Speaker 1>Russ Vaught, who is a problem. His whole career was

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<v Speaker 1>based on combating CRT critical race theory, so that should

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<v Speaker 1>let you know what he is. Food assistance programs will

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<v Speaker 1>also be impacted, snap the supplemental nutritional program. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>have members in my family who are on this with

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<v Speaker 1>the program for Women, infants, and Children. Both of these

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<v Speaker 1>programs are expected to rapidly run out of funds. Social Security,

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<v Speaker 1>social Security, to VA and other benefits will continue, However,

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<v Speaker 1>there will still be some delays in services such as

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<v Speaker 1>processing applications, air traffic control, and TSA. They're considered essential,

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<v Speaker 1>so they will continue to go to work, but they

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<v Speaker 1>will not be paid. And I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys remember when this happened in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Increasingly air traffic controllers began to call in sick, which

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<v Speaker 1>had a ripple effects on travel across the country. FEMA

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<v Speaker 1>will keep functioning, but funds are also running low. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you consider what this means at the state level,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take Louisiana for example, huge black population there. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a program, the National Flood Insurance Program. It was

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<v Speaker 1>managed by FEMA. It's been temporarily extended by Congress more

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<v Speaker 1>than thirty times since twenty seventeen. It was created to

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<v Speaker 1>provide insurance for those who don't have a private option. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funding expired at twelve one am midnight on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>of this week. So these are going to be real problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you who will still continue to get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Members of Congress and the President himself will continue to

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<v Speaker 1>collect paychecks. More than two hundred thousand members of law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement will continue to work. That's according to Homeland Security

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<v Speaker 1>Director and the puppy killer Christy nome Ice, will continue

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<v Speaker 1>their work as usual. Unfortunately, so we're looking at really

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous times, you guys. And I, for myself, just to

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<v Speaker 1>be transparent, I'm worried about my own funding because for

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<v Speaker 1>the people in my family who receive these benefits, if

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<v Speaker 1>they go away, then that means I will have to

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<v Speaker 1>supplement what they spend and so on. Snap benefits. You

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<v Speaker 1>already can't buy things like cleaning products, paper products, hot food,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. But that's okay because I can supplement

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<v Speaker 1>those things from my family when it's needed. But when

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<v Speaker 1>their entire benefits go away, then I will have to

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<v Speaker 1>supplement their entire needs, from deodorant toothsbors. Think about everything

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<v Speaker 1>you use on a daily basis to the foods you

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<v Speaker 1>eat three meals a day. And I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>make my family, you know, eat less or suffer through this.

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<v Speaker 1>It will cost me more money. And I imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Who are we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>last week, Andrew, who are the people who made it?

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<v Speaker 1>So to speak, this will cast a dark shadow across

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people's finances. And I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where we go from here. So I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>put that in context for our viewers and open it

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<v Speaker 1>up to you guys to see that's real. Yeah, like WTA.

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<v Speaker 4>To build off your example with the catastrophe fund, the

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<v Speaker 4>supplemental sort of, I would like to call it the

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<v Speaker 4>insurer of last resort, meaning if no other insurance is

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<v Speaker 4>available to you, the government's the insurer of last resort

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<v Speaker 4>for Louisiana. You think about hurrican Hurricane season is not over.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in Florida, so I stay pretty apparent and aware

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<v Speaker 4>of it and say a storm word to come through

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<v Speaker 4>during this period of time. Any losses, any losses to

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<v Speaker 4>real estate, anything that was previously insured is now uninsured.

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<v Speaker 4>The real cost for any of that passes directly to

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<v Speaker 4>the individual owner themselves. Right, So you lose a house,

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<v Speaker 4>you out of house. If you want one back, you

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<v Speaker 4>got to pay for it full sale yourself. On the

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<v Speaker 4>health insurance piece of this, we've already seen across the

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<v Speaker 4>country people's premiums healthcare premiums, a piece that you have

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<v Speaker 4>to pay before insurance kicks in, has gone up forty

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<v Speaker 4>percent in some case, in some cases even more drastically.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where the Democrats have laid down the steak in

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<v Speaker 4>the sand. They've said, basically, please, please, please reauthorize the

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<v Speaker 4>incentives that existed during.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, frankly up to this point.

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<v Speaker 4>And so Obamacare's adoption, the American Affordable Healthcare Acts adoption,

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<v Speaker 4>all those went away. And so they said, look for

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<v Speaker 4>our cooperation, for our votes to get to the sixty

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<v Speaker 4>vote threshold you need in the Senate to plass culture.

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<v Speaker 4>We will give you those votes if you put back

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<v Speaker 4>those incentives so that health insurance can remain somewhat affordable

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<v Speaker 4>for those who are already on the American Affordable Care Act.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course the Republicans have resisted, the president resist.

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<v Speaker 4>They are insisting on moving a trillion dollars from working people,

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<v Speaker 4>working class Americans. They have shifted one trillion dollars, the

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<v Speaker 4>largest wealth transfer in American history, from all of us

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<v Speaker 4>to the top one percent, who aren't begging for it

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<v Speaker 4>and don't need it, and absolutely don't deserve it. So

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<v Speaker 4>they've chosen their side here. They're not choosing keep government

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<v Speaker 4>open versus closed. That's not it, Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 3>You laid it out perfectly.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been closed. They've been shuttering the government. Russell Bott's

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<v Speaker 4>threat to the Democrats, you vote with us or we

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<v Speaker 4>will fire more people, that ain't real. And I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>the Democrats knew that that threat was not real. Why

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<v Speaker 4>because they've already shown us they're committed to laying off

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<v Speaker 4>the federal workforce. They're committed to destruction of the government

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<v Speaker 4>as we know it. And whether Democrats were to acquiesce

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<v Speaker 4>accept that challenge and then give them their vote or not,

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<v Speaker 4>Russell vote, Donald Trump and their minions are intent on

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<v Speaker 4>bringing the government down. And by the way, it will

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<v Speaker 4>have huge impacts for our economy. Why because the federal

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<v Speaker 4>government is the largest fricking employer in the land. Nothing bigger,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing greater, nothing larger, nothing, employing more people than the

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<v Speaker 4>federal government and its subcontractors.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh won't get paid by the way, the contractor and

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<v Speaker 1>they will not get back paid when the government functions again.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's their defense. Yeah no, But except for defense.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to just flag I actually don't have as

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<v Speaker 7>much to say on government shut down today. On Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 7>we did a many I mean a solo pod on

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<v Speaker 7>the government shut down. I fell a buster for thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>So I feel like I said all that I need

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<v Speaker 7>to say there. Y'all please run that thing back. And

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<v Speaker 7>speaking of running that thing back, let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 7>hear what Jasmin Crockett has to say well.

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<v Speaker 9>As it relates to the shutdown. Listen, the last time

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<v Speaker 9>we had a shut down, it was Trump. The longest

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<v Speaker 9>shutdown we've ever had, it was under Trump. So don't

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<v Speaker 9>get caught up in this nonsense. That is the Democrat's fault.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>The bad part is that people don't understand civics or

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<v Speaker 9>they listen to people that are gaslighting them. And the

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<v Speaker 9>facts are the facts. The Republicans control everything.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 9>There are people that want to talk about the filibuster.

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<v Speaker 9>We can talk about the philibuster if you want to

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<v Speaker 9>talk about the philibuster. But the reality is that y'all

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<v Speaker 9>control everything. You control every single lever right now. So

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<v Speaker 9>when you're in control, that means that it is up

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<v Speaker 9>to you to figure out how it gets done.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So yes, I think I feel complete on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Not just say, for Jasmine Crockett, who is a hero

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<v Speaker 4>in a state in her corner, She's not perfect. She

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<v Speaker 4>is perfectly imperfect, and that's what makes her accessible in

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that people want to replicate and be inspired by.

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<v Speaker 3>But her point around, Lord, I just lost my threats.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you know why, because we should probably move on

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<v Speaker 5>to the next topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, because I said, Andrew said no, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you wanted to get to this true, and

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<v Speaker 1>and people are the only reason I'm saying that, Angela's

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<v Speaker 1>because people are going to be devastated by this. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you had topics on how Jasmine Crockett

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<v Speaker 1>and her humanity have been coming up. And just in

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<v Speaker 1>case you are having the reason why Angela san move

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<v Speaker 1>on is because her solo pod was an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half Angela, is that right.

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<v Speaker 5>With Yeah, my solo pod was out, Yes, Maxine Waters.

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<v Speaker 5>Then I filibuster for a bit.

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<v Speaker 7>Jazzmine's teams had a little bit of some technical difficulties.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was so worth the way.

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<v Speaker 7>And Andrew, you know, one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 7>think is significant here as we navigate through this show,

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<v Speaker 7>through this shut down, through this administration, is the ways

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<v Speaker 7>in which folks who are in elected office and our

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<v Speaker 7>public service, what you have to do to put your lives,

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<v Speaker 7>your physical body, your emotional health on the line. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think we were talking about, you know, just being

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<v Speaker 7>concerned about our dear sister Jazzmine and making sure that

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<v Speaker 7>we're covering her, especially when you know, the Laura Lumers

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<v Speaker 7>of the world are saying all.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of crazy stuff, questioning intellect.

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<v Speaker 7>Degrading them, calling them out their name for doing nothing

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<v Speaker 7>but protecting black folks, you know, and what's in the

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<v Speaker 7>best interests of the whole of the American people, whether

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<v Speaker 7>or not the whole of the American people receive it

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<v Speaker 7>or not.

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<v Speaker 5>So, you know, I think to that end, we have

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<v Speaker 5>to find multiple.

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<v Speaker 7>Places to share, to be advocates in whatever our lanes

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<v Speaker 7>are to be, to utilize our platforms and our talents

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<v Speaker 7>to facilitate change in this country. We have to use

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<v Speaker 7>every tool at our disposal, not just one solitary tool.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if that reminded you, but if.

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<v Speaker 3>Not, listen, Angela.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I should have left a dead thing alone

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<v Speaker 4>because it was a technical point and I completely lost

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<v Speaker 4>the threads.

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<v Speaker 3>So guess what, all, right?

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<v Speaker 5>That what you said using the talents is bad, Bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and we have a viewer question who brought that up? So,

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<v Speaker 1>but to close out, I just want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>For those of you, I love y'all. I love y'all

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<v Speaker 3>for y'all's pivoting and the cover is really humorous.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you guys cover me too.

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<v Speaker 1>We all cover each other. But I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>say before we move on, for all of you who

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<v Speaker 1>are impacted by this government shutdown, who are now worried

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<v Speaker 1>about how you're going to pay your mortgage, how you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to feed your children, how you're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a care of family near and far, I too, am

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>in that same situation with you. I understand, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will be continuing to talk about it here on Native

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb Pod. If you do want a deeper dive, though,

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<v Speaker 1>please do revisit Angela's solo pod. It was an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half just on the government checkout. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>not breezing past this. It's just that it has not

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<v Speaker 1>been talked about a lot, so thank.

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<v Speaker 10>You for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep we keep going from crisis to crisis.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we keep like this is a manufacturer crisis that

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<v Speaker 7>they do at our expense, over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 7>that should not be lost on you.

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<v Speaker 5>And just in time Andrew's point got it back then,

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<v Speaker 5>you got it.

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<v Speaker 3>You got it. So this was the point.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Usually when there's a president and a Congress,

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<v Speaker 4>they do everything that they can to avert a shutdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Why because they know of the drastic harm that it

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<v Speaker 4>causes people. This administration, the incentives are perverse. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>incentivized to reduce harm. They're not incentivized to keep government

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<v Speaker 4>open and accessible to the people.

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<v Speaker 3>This president has determined that he.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he is really loyal only to him at this point,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as he's concerned, either there will be no

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<v Speaker 4>more elections or he won't stand for another election for president,

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<v Speaker 4>and therefore his poll numbers don't matter. And I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to bring in the point around these poll numbers that

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<v Speaker 4>came out this week would show that pretty much, although

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<v Speaker 4>underwater and unpopular, the president's support amongst Republicans remains not

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<v Speaker 4>out of ten Republicans in this country still approve of

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 4>his job. And so we've all been talking about and

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 4>waiting for the reasonable ones to show up? Where are

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<v Speaker 4>the ones who are the middle world? Where are the

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 4>folks who are are reasonable in this moment and can

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<v Speaker 4>see the harm that's being caused. I guess the illumination

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 4>I had and I knew it all along, but confirmed

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<v Speaker 4>reading these numbers this week is that there isn't that

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<v Speaker 4>their wholesale signed up to the full scale agenda. So

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<v Speaker 4>the tactics that they may find unpleasant along the way

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 4>might just be just that unpleasant, but as it relates

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<v Speaker 4>to the goal, their wholesale fully committed to the destruction

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 4>that Donald Trump is sowing throughout this country, throughout the world,

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:45.120
<v Speaker 4>certainly throughout this government. So I just wanted to disavow

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 4>us of the fact that this is in any way

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<v Speaker 4>a real normal moment. We've got perverse incentives of a

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 4>guy who actually gets the pleasure off of people doing bad,

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<v Speaker 4>of people suffering in so many ways, you know, that

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 4>is the point of what they're doing. And to the

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<v Speaker 4>extent that there are reasonable people, I can't see it,

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 4>and these poles confirm it.

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 3>They don't exist.

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 5>And sometimes people can be so bad it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think Angela's talking about I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out, though factually you're talking, I'm pretty sure you're

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>referring to the Reuter's pole there. Andrew and yes, yes,

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the pole. But yes, let's move on because I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think it's so bad it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Angela really wants.

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<v Speaker 5>To move on to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Buddy.

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<v Speaker 5>But m so we have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear from a from a viewer? Uh to shift

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<v Speaker 1>us into the next subject.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, Native Lampard, this is Megan from Cleveland, Ohio. My

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<v Speaker 11>question has to do about you know, was recently announced

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<v Speaker 11>that Bad Bunny would be performed, I mean at the

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 11>super Bowl, and I just want to know. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>first of all, does anyone even remember Kendrick's performance? You know,

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<v Speaker 11>with everything happening, everything that has happened, what really did

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<v Speaker 11>that performance?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know that we have more black ownership in

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 11>the NFL. I don't know that we have more black

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 11>head coaches on the field in the NFL. So we

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 11>have these moments and it just seems like we're the

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 11>only ones celebrating them. You know, they just seem performative.

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 11>I don't know that they really do anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 11>know what movement it actually makes for our community. So

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<v Speaker 11>now with Bad Bunny performing, do we care what?

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<v Speaker 6>What you know?

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<v Speaker 11>Are we do we have an opinion on it at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Are we excited. I don't know that I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 11>They're letting us get up there in tap dance form,

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 11>but we've always got up there in tap dance form.

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<v Speaker 12>So just wanted to know you.

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<v Speaker 11>Guys thoughts on it. Love Native Land, been a fans

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 11>in Stay One, Take care of you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you Megan for that question.

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<v Speaker 1>We have gotten your feedback that we don't specifically answer

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>your questions all the time, so I know, Angela, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of thoughts on this subject.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first, let me just say this because I think

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<v Speaker 7>that people will relate, say, Jake, we remember Kidrick's performance, Like,

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 7>not only do we remember Kidrick's performance, it is still

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<v Speaker 7>firal right now. You could walk up to somebody and

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 7>say da Da Da da and they know what it means.

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 7>Like it wasn't just the song, it was the way

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<v Speaker 7>that he uh challenged the fabric of America in his performance.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna I'm gonna say something that may be controversial

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 7>to some of y'all. I think that one of the

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<v Speaker 7>best things that could have happened to the super Bowl

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 7>halftime show is that Rock Nation took it on and

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 7>they have the ability to challenge the viewer, the typical

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 7>NFL viewer, the folks who are in those stands. Overwhelmingly

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 7>we cannot afford those tickets. Some parts of us can't

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 7>afford those tickets. But those shows are for the viewing

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 7>audience at home to challenge, for some to uplift, and

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.439
<v Speaker 7>for some to be able to have a man corner.

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 5>While there has been, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Think, particularly this year, a growing or over the last

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 7>three hundred and sixty five, a growing divide even more

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 7>so than normal between the black and brown communities, I

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 7>think that it is very powerful that Bad Bunny has

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 7>the opportunity, in the midst of what is happening to

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 7>LATINX folks to have that stage. I really do, and

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<v Speaker 7>I look forward to what he does there.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 7>That movements are built absent arts, whether they are the

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.239
<v Speaker 7>fine arts or performing arts. I think that they are

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 7>built and inspired and carried through the arts.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, to the point where I would.

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<v Speaker 7>Ask for some artists to come together to do a

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 7>song around state of the People, and that they would

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 7>agree to do something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It is, I mean, there's a reason.

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<v Speaker 7>Why we are the world had the impact it had,

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 7>you know, even if you look back to Jason's lyric

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 7>and there was a black male chorus, you will know,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 7>like there are moments self destruction, there are always moments

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 7>where the arts carry the movement, carry the demands.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the people. And I think that this isn't any different.

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<v Speaker 5>And if it can be on a.

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<v Speaker 7>Stage that is so well funded, so well choreographed, it's

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<v Speaker 7>so overwhelmingly seen, I think that's exactly where the arts belong.

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<v Speaker 3>That's real appreciate.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I just say this to our dear sister from Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 7>I know that it's not answering your question, but I

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 7>do want to acknowledge your skin is poppinsis.

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<v Speaker 5>Glowing.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. Shout out Began.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say to answer very directly, halftime performances are

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 4>performative by definition, they are really intended.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean this by the sensitive.

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<v Speaker 4>I think of late, we've gotten very high minded about

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 4>our expectations for these kinds of performances. But largely, you know,

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 4>it's to entertain. And it's only of late and at

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 4>very selective moments in American history have we seen them

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 4>catapult to something more, to be statement pieces, to be

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 4>thought pieces, to be queries of the mind and of

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 4>people who are watching to be moments of protests, but

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 4>also moments of unity on occasion they are also, you know,

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, representation matters. It matters to see yourself

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 4>your experience reflected, and it matters especially on an occasion

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 4>where there are more eyes on the television screen on

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 4>one single set of programming, which hasn't frankly happened in

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 4>this country for thirty forty years. You know, back in

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 4>the day when there were only four networks, everybody forty

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 4>million people were watching the same show at the same time.

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 4>There was a common American experience that doesn't exist anymore

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 4>in our country. By and large, this is probably one

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 4>of those very few occasions where all eyes or as

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 4>many eyes as you can imagine, are on one set

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 4>of programming. And I like the fact that my white colleagues,

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 4>my black colleagues, brown sisters and brothers out there, so

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 4>on and so forth, are by and large experiencing this

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 4>very same moment at the same time, and oddly enough,

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 4>many of them still walking away with very different impressions

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 4>and piercings and evaluations of what that thing meant to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually the haters say that was boring that didn't need

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>to happen. Da da da da dada.

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<v Speaker 4>When did we become so political? And then those who

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 4>are affirming of the performances and what they signify by

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 4>virtual meaning are championing it.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Man, that was high, that was wild? Did you see

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Do you understand the meaning of that? Wholesale? Incoment?

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 4>Newspapers are writing thought pieces on what was intended by

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 4>each piece of art and choreography, you know, as it unfolded.

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 4>I just think that's powerful. There are very few moments

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 4>anymore in this country where we have shared experience, even

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 4>if our interpretations of that experience are different, and representation matters.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I take a completely different view than both

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of you. I acknowledge your points, and I definitely think they're.

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<v Speaker 13>Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with them. I just have a different view.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with the viewer my sister from Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think she was saying that people don't

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>remember Kendrick's performance in the sense that we've forgotten about it.

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I understood her to be saying, what did it change?

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, what policies did it change? And I certainly

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>understand her point. In Okay, so they get the benefit

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>of our eyes. These billionaire NFL owners who largely support

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and this administration and his policies, who have

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>contributed to him, they get the benefit of black and

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>brown talent at their halftime show. We increase their viewership

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>when we watch the games and when we watched the

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>halftime show. Even if he is there making a political

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>statement and a political point, the question I'm asking is

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>who's really winning and who's really losing. Just for backgrounds

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>for people who may not be familiar with the whole

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Bad Bunny saga, he did a thirty one day residency

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>in San Juan. He bypassed coming to the mainland is

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>driving me crazy, because in the newscast you'll hear him say, well,

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>he bypassed coming to the US. Well, Puerto Rico is

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a part of the United States. He bypassed coming to

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the mainland because of the mass ice deportations, which are

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of course unconstitutional, which are of course authoritarian, And he

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>in an interview with ID magazine said I'm not doing

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 1>my concerts. Their ice could literally be outside of my concert.

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So I applaud him for taking that stance. He left

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money on the table he was printed

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>about it, and I really appreciate that. I too question

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>what have we really gained since Rock Nation took over

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the halftime show other than some super dope halftime shows.

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Where I struggle, I think is what you guys are saying,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and what I think you guys are saying is messaging matters.

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, imagery matters at this time, and I think

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that's so true. That is definitely essential. This is a

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>large audience, So given that, I hope he goes super hard,

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I hope he is disrespectful at the halftime

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>show because I think that's what it would take. I

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>remember there were people saying they didn't get Kendrick Lamar.

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>What was he saying they didn't get the performance? If

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you ain't get it, it wasn't for you. I've seen

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of videos in my feed of people sitting there,

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>like trying to learn Spanish, and they're like me, trying

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to learn Spanish, so I can understand everything. For the

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>halftime show, people are definitely excited about it, but I

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>do I think her point stands like, we haven't seen

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>this increase in black coaches. We haven't seen any NFL

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>policy change, nor have we seen these halftime performances push

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>any policy outside of the NFL even So I think

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a fair criticism, and I think we should.

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<v Speaker 5>It is our job.

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<v Speaker 1>It is our responsibility as consumers of Rock Nations music

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 1>and as consumers of the NFL to continue to push

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.959
<v Speaker 1>them to give us more tangible change. Because I would

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>even say, even if there were more black NFL coaches,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like Okay, it was kind of like around the protest

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>around Colin Kaepernick, I'm like, that's all we ask them

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>for is but it's one black man to get a job,

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Like we need institutional change.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Andrew, I want to ask you when did

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 4>when did halftime performances and the entertainers who entertain us

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 4>during that time like get tasked with the responsibility of

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 4>creating public policy change.

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it's their responsibility to create policy change.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think at the time that Rock Nation took over

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>the halftime show, that is what centered because that's why

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>it happened, because people were critical of the NFL. It

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>was on the heels of them completely disrespecting and sidelining

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and robbing Colin Kaepernick of employment and opportunity. And so

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>when it was beneficial for them to turn something over

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to a black man. That's when they did it. And

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>so the pushback from the black community was like, oh,

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>hold up, what's going on. I mean, Colin Kaepernick wasn't

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>supportive of the move so people were saying, what are

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>we getting out of this? And so that was and

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<v Speaker 1>Angel correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>was their response, like, no, we're gonna, you know, make

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>this a moment, make this a movement. These halftime shows

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>will be a movement. I think that's when the halftime

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>show became political. For the expectation of it was to

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>be political and give pushback. But I'm open to if

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I have that wrong.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 4>No, but to that extent, I would say the shows

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 4>of late actually have been more political, and they have

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 4>provoked an awoken, real conversation and debate within the American

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 4>peace and I actually think like that's the change that

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 4>has even if it draws us to our corners, at

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 4>least we start to hear people articulate what's driving them

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 4>to one corner or another. We are so beref of

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 4>honest dialogue anymore as a country. I mean, like I

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 4>used to think that Republicans had a set of values around.

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 4>For instance, they used to be the party of don't

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 4>tread on Me, and now there anything but that anymore. Right,

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 4>Yet there's still claiming and you know, shrouding themselves in

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 4>the American flag, And I'm like, how dishonest can you be?

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Either you line to you, because I know you've been

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 4>lying to me. I didn't expect the truth from you,

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 4>but to themselves, And so I appreciate what dialogue can

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 4>be sparked there, because in truth, public policy change around

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 4>diversity and inclusion doesn't change people's hearts and minds. It's

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 4>culture that changes hearts and minds. It's culture that largely

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 4>causes you to think differently about a thing, to be

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 4>pricked in a way that is not totally offensive, and

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 4>therefore you might be open to what the critique is.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that's kind of what art helps to I

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 3>don't think we're in a mad society.

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're dealing with those we're dealing with extremists,

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>We're dealing with culton.

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I agree with that by and large. For those of

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 4>us who are political, I agree with that by and large.

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 4>But again, you know, half the country ain't voting and

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 4>the majority of support that we need to be having

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 4>out there is amongst each other, is with community. And

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 4>so to the extent that this sced conversation that wasn't

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:30.879
<v Speaker 4>happening before.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean really before we were.

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:35.479
<v Speaker 4>Talking about somebody titty being out right and Timberlay getting

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 4>off while somebody else is carrying the load. And now

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 4>people are talking about what is the symbolism and the

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 4>meaning behind this that part while taking ownership of the flag,

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 4>but in a different way. Now I feel more connected

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 4>to my country and to my community.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 3>I just think that's I.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Think our side.

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I was about to value that.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we've always been talking about that though, Like

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 1>I just I agree with the caller or the viewer's point.

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>What exactly is this changing? What institutional changes has the

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>NFL made, and what changes do we think these performances

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>make other than enriching the pockets of billionaires who support

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>this administration and their policies. What I would like the

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.240
<v Speaker 1>audience to know because of bad Bunny bypassing the United

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>States and why he is is right now, immigrants with

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 1>no criminal record zero criminal record are the largest group

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in US immigration detention centers. That's according to data released

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>by our own United States government. So when we're looking

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>at that, I can understand why people are saying, I

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, if you know, I'm excited about this bad

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Bunny performance more than I am outraged about what's actually

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>happening in the country. But I don't want to be

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>hypcrit I will be watching the halftime show and go ahead, Angela, yeah, go.

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Ahead, No.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 7>And I think this is the thing, right, It's like,

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, we have somebody or an entity that is

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 7>willing to push the buck with these folks because they

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:02.240
<v Speaker 7>have some influence. They've been able to shift. Folks would

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 7>be mad as hell if it was Kid Rock, you

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 7>know what I mean. So now it's like, oh, well,

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 7>these racist NFL owners, of which there are many, right,

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 7>So you still have the NFL running this show, but

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 7>the owners still have outside influence. Many of them think

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 7>they are right, we don't say many. Too many of

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 7>them think they are running plantations. And so when you

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 7>have that ideology and you have somebody willing to push

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 7>back on this, yes it is just the halftime performance,

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 7>And yes it is the halftime performance. That is the

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 7>very thing that if it were not these artists that

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 7>we actually do support politically or we do feel like

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 7>we're aligned with them on social issues or social justice causes.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 7>We would be mad if it was somebody else, like

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 7>the many of the artists. No, Taylor, Taylor is more

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 7>aligned with us politically and on social issues than some others.

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 7>But I do think bad Bunny makes a different statement

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 7>than Taylor does. And so yeah, like I just I

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 7>think that it's interesting that it's like you damned if

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 7>you do, damned if you don't hear. The other thing

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.919
<v Speaker 7>that I'll say without saying too much, is I really

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 7>wish people knew the backstory of what happened and how

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 7>they got to doing the halftime shows to begin with,

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 7>of what their actual intention was. There wasn't a real

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 7>different end goal than what the rest of the community was,

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 7>and that was for Cap to get on a team.

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 7>But I wonder for us if Cap getting on the

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 7>team would have been sufficient. If Cap got on a team,

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 7>would we still have the issues around the lack of

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 7>black head coaches in the NFL when we still have

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 7>an issue with the fact that only seventeen percent or

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 7>eighteen percent of coaches look like us. The fact despite

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 7>the fact that seventy five percent of the players look

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 7>like us, so I really want us to also challenge

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 7>our own hypocrisy here. And I'm saying us black folks,

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 7>because it is far deeper than that. But I recognize

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 7>and understand the symbolism. We have to decide if the

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 7>symbols are the substance or if we're going to continue

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 7>to push for substance even when we get some of

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 7>the symbols. And I think that it is not either or.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 7>It is probably a both and approach. But we got

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 7>to figure out, you know, what is the symbol that

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 7>we care the most about and when we're going to

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 7>challenge them for upholding the symbol but dissing us on

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 7>everything else, or should we be doing both? And I

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 7>think this is probably one of those things where we

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 7>should do both. We've got to win on the halftime show.

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 7>It is not sufficient, and I think the Rock Nation

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 7>family understands that, and certainly everybody on this podcast understands this.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.839
<v Speaker 7>There is another viewer question here, and since you brought

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 7>up Ice Tiff, maybe we should tap in there.

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 5>But I heard Andrew take a breasth case he wants no.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 4>I just I think we shouldn't overload people with doing

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 4>everything we all have our jobs. We all have our

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 4>roles to play. Policymakers have a job to do here,

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 4>the board of these multilateral corporations who are sponsors to

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 4>the commercials that play that largely line the pockets of

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 4>the networks, and these owners, they have a role to play. Also,

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 4>entertainers who are really invited to just entertain have a

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 4>responsibility in a role to play given their platforms. And

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to overload any one side of this

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 4>with more than what they're reasonable and righteous responsibility ought

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:28.959
<v Speaker 4>to be in the moment.

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I would push back on that a

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I think rock Nation became the you know,

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>jay Z and rock Nation became billionaires off of us

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>supporting his music his projects early on. So I think

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>black people are always righteously entitled to challenging what he's

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>done with that level of responsibility.

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 7>I would never that's not entirely true though, Like he

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 7>did not become a billionaire just off of streams. He

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 7>became a billionaire after several other business deals.

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 5>But he became a billionaire.

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he does, but he did. I'm not

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>saying every billion he got was from us, but I'm

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>saying from the support that black people gave him that

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>put him in a position to flip that money a

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>few times.

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 7>But that was the finesse of a smart businessman investing

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 7>in I'm not taking.

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>That away from him, but he wouldn't have been able

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to do that much if he didn't have to support

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of black people. So that then say, we can't challenge

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>him and what he's doing.

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 5>That challenge it, but I think you should listen to

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 5>the facts of their responses though too. I think that's true.

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I think unfortunately, well I shouldn't say unfortunately or not,

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but Colin Kaepernick was you know, vocal about his thoughts

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>on the partnership, and that's what we heard. And I

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>think the imagery that we've seen, you know, from them

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>dining with uh, you know, the the Trump kids and

0:43:58.480 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>people right after.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.800
<v Speaker 5>That announced and bad Bunny would be the halftime performer.

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 5>That doesn't But that.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't not a lot of people. That does not wait

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people. I think people have a

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>right to be outraised and angry about those things. They

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>can be, but I want them to be outraged and

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>angry with facts. So then even the comment just now

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>about they were dining with the Trump kids. Let's just

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>put some clarity around this.

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 5>So they are. They are.

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 7>Some of the founding members of the Reform Alliance, which

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 7>was a bipartisan effort to help get people, reduce people's sentences,

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 7>make sure that justice reform actually happened in this country.

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 7>Even the Koch Brothers were a part of these efforts

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 7>with Hikim Jeffries just a few years ago.

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 5>Now it feels like five hundred.

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 7>But the Reform Alliance is holds a gala, a casino

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 7>event every year where people on every side of the

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 7>on all parts of the political spectrum, participate in that event.

0:44:53.960 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 7>So the Trump's Jared Kushner, whose father was also incarcerated

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 7>and therefore he leaned very heavily into justice reform efforts

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 7>in the last Trump administration, is now involved in the

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 7>Reform Alliance, and they participated in the most recent event.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 7>It was Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner.

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And the reason his father was exactly the reason that

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>father was parsrated is a whole other thing. But thank you,

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>because I think that that the facts do matter around that.

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>But if we're saying imagery matters in the halftime show,

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>then imagery definitely equally matters when you are seated at

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the table with Jarrek Kushner at a time such as this,

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>when things are going on, I think it is perfectly

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>fine for people to question, wait a second, this doesn't

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>feel right to me, or wait a second, what more

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? What more can we should we be

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 1>expecting of you? It's not this to anybody, But I

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 1>was talking to one of our luner. I don't think

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>he would want me to say his name, but I

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was talking to one of our luminaries of the time,

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>asking his thoughts, and he said, listen, at the end

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>of the day, a billionaire is a billionaire is a billionaire,

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And so I think sometimes I do question that. You know,

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I look at the peopleeople who in our community who

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>maneuver at that level, and there does sometimes feel like

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a disconnect. But I also think it's fair what you

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 1>guys are saying about imagery mattering, and about what we

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>should what's realistic, what we can expect, and should we

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>be celebrating the things that they are doing. I think

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>everything on the table I think is fair. I just

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 1>identify more with what the viewer, what she was raising.

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a fair question to ask.

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 4>The only thing I know we got to go on

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 4>is simply say we could. We could disrupt the lives

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 4>of these billionaire, racist owners, many of too, many of

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 4>which right now owned teams and think they run in plantations.

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 4>For sure, if we decided to take our eyes off

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 4>the screen every Sunday, very fought if we were to

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 4>remove ours, because the accountability has to.

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Flow all way.

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:45.919
<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's true.

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 4>It isn't just Jaz, It ain't just the you know,

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.800
<v Speaker 4>the owners. It is the fact that they wouldn't have

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 4>what they have. The NFL would not be the expanding,

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 4>profound industry, you know, disruptive industry that it is from

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 4>me and so much else if our eyeballs were not

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.560
<v Speaker 4>on it, if we were not watching, if we weren't

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 4>attending games and buying tickets. And the truth is is

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 4>if we the regular folk, were to remove our support

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 4>visa VI, putting our eyes on it, therefore driving money

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<v Speaker 4>toward it, then that wouldn't be the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Ross wouldn't be a thing. Right, So accountability is right.

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<v Speaker 4>I was only simply arguing not just what's possible or

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 4>what's reasonable, but to say that I do have expectations

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 4>for everybody along this along this pipeline, and it doesn't.

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 4>I was simply saying, it doesn't sit with Bad Bunny

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 4>himself to accomplish all those missions by through his performance.

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't sit with jay Z by himself. It doesn't

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 3>sit with any one of those.

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 4>Constituencies by themselves, but the most impactful constituency of those

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<v Speaker 4>of us who are watching.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say I really love this conversation. I

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't expect this conversation to go all these different dress

0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I knew there was daylight, but it really is a

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>New Wants conversation. I don't think we would have gotten

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>this conversation anywhere else on the cable news. It would

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>have been a five minute thing. So I really love

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 1>the nuanced perspective that we all bring and would love

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to hear from our viewers. Please weigh in with what

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you all think. I love what you said, Andrew, And

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not dismissing people who love football, because when this

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 1>was happening, I remember, y'all know I'm a big huge

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones head, and I was trying to think, like, damn,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>what if it was called a boycott? Not watching Game

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of Thrones? How get So would I be like, am

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I gonna miss that Game of Thrones finale?

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get that perspective, but I like the exactly

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 1>But I appreciate the perspective that you're like, responsibility doesn't

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>sit with any one of us, for everybody who's out

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>there watching the football game but criticizing the halftime show,

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing in your role of responsibility?

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 1>So I love that. But but a lot of the

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>stems from bad Bunny not bringing his tour to the

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>mainland because he said, you know, ICE could be right

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>outside his concerts, and I know we have a viewer

0:48:58.480 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>who has a question about that.

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<v Speaker 8>What's up? Native Land is Larry once again in Dallas,

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.919
<v Speaker 8>soon to be in Canada once I move next month.

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 8>But I want to talk to you guys about the

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 8>bad Body Built bill that Trump just signed into law.

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<v Speaker 8>This is going to give ICE an astounding amount of funding.

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<v Speaker 13>Not only would dollar for dollar make it the largest

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 13>governmental agency, but also I believe I read the sixteenth

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.240
<v Speaker 13>largest military power on the planet.

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<v Speaker 8>That's terrible. I see this going horribly not only for immigrants,

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:49.840
<v Speaker 8>but for everybody that dissents against this fascist agenda. I

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 8>wanted to know from you guys, what are some steps

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 8>of disruption or mutual aid that people can do to

0:49:55.640 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 8>combat ICE and or the undoubtedly problemat of consequences that

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 8>this new Gestapo force is going to have on average citizens.

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 8>Looking forward to hearing your perspectives. I love y'all, and

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 8>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome home, he said, he moving to Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, yeah, you got a question, though, don't get side.

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't answer that question. I know, well, my thought

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>is to be disobedient. What I've seen from and this

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 1>is just like videos that unfortunately you don't find on

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>legacy media, but you've seen videos from different outlets that

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>find their way to social media and on different news

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>sites where communities overwhelmingly show up and stop ICE from

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 1>taking somebody. They make them and welcome to the point

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>where ICE literally backs out. They outnumber them in droves.

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 1>They videotape them. Ice is now attacking people who are

0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>videotaping them. This week, they just attacked a journalist. This

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>is not a normal thing. I mean, we are literally

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 1>normalizing mass men uh taking people off the streets and

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>disappearing them. Reporting from CNN sites that authorities in at

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 1>least three states have arrested individuals allegedly impersonating ICE officers

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>at a time when real ICE agents have, you know,

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>ramped up their disappearing acts, and it's adding to an

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>existing fear of law enforcement. I said earlier in the

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>show that more people who have committed no crimes whatsoever,

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they now outnumber these allegedly violent criminals. There have also

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>been thousands of people since these deportations happened. More than

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>a thousand people have disappeared. We just don't know where

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>they are. They've disappeared from the daily body count. So

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>imagine people can't find, you know, their loved ones. The

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>superintendent of schools in Iowa, for all the people who

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>said this an r when we mind in our business,

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this black man who was born in Guyana, a pillar

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>of the community, was disappeared by ice. And so this

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>is a dangerous, scary time and the only thing that's

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna stop and authoritarian regime is disobedience. I had a

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>chance to talk with Congressman Ayana Pressley about this during

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, and she gave really good

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>advice on this about protecting ourselves and our community. So

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling people to go out there and get

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>shot and you know, confront ice officers with violence. But

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I do think when we do this in DROs and

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in numbers and demand you know, accountability and respect for

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>our communities and show up for one another. If there's

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>eighteen agents going after one person and it's thirty people

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood, then yes, protect that one person. If

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you see somebody getting taken, get out your phone, ask

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 1>their name. Who can you call, you know, to let

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 1>them know that you were taken. It's getting to the point,

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 1>well I feel like I want to AirTag on me somewhere,

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>just so somebody can constantly be aware I'm aware of

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.360
<v Speaker 1>where I am. Because they're not citizens, then none of

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>us are citizens if they came and got injury. Right

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 1>now that you're not a citizen, bo, But wait, yes

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I am. I have a passport, I can show you. Well,

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't get due processed, so now you're just disappeared.

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.320
<v Speaker 1>So we have to consider it's not they, it's we.

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not them, it's us. Eventually this problem is going

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to come to our front door. So that's my thoughts.

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 8>So good, so good.

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 4>It already is I appreciate that SYS. I mean in

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 4>places like Florida, where you have huge Haitian Haitian communities

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 4>that have been displaced from hat because of the political

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 4>discord there and have been granted asylum under previous administrations

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 4>and have now had it revoked from this administration.

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<v Speaker 3>They are racially profiling.

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 4>They are deciding whether or not you look like you

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 4>belong here, by the way, a principle that used to

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 4>be illegal in the United States thanks up until the

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 4>US Supreme Court majority determined that, oh, racial profiling to

0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 4>determine whether or not a person is a citizen.

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just fine with with them.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 4>The only other thing I would add, and I think

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 4>you did so well with their Tiffany, is to say

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.360
<v Speaker 4>at your local levels. So the entire state of California

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.720
<v Speaker 4>has now banned federal agents coming in without with masks,

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:14.799
<v Speaker 4>mass individuals disappearing to use your language, sipetany folks out

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 4>of communities. You can push for local ordinances where you live.

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 4>You got to go local government that is sensitive to

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 4>these human rights concerns. I am totally not shocked that

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 4>there are now criminal elements who are deciding, oh, we

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.359
<v Speaker 4>could just throw on some masks and go and get

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:33.640
<v Speaker 4>our enemies as well and lift them off the street.

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 4>There's a reason why people got badges and badge numbers.

0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 4>There's a reason why they wear those things on their

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 4>uniforms and display them for the public. It's a form

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 4>of accountability in a democracy, and now we ought to

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 4>be pushing for that same accountability even for this agency.

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.840
<v Speaker 4>He is also completely right on the DHS on the

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Homeland Security. The President frankly building his own army, domestic

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 4>army to carry out his wishes. While the military he

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 4>may have been frozen and didn't applaud for him, which

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 4>is in practice the right thing. That the military is

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 4>to be non political, to respect the office of the presidency,

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 4>but not to be partisans.

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:13.839
<v Speaker 3>So the president, that wasn't good enough for him.

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 4>He wanted obeisance, applause, rowdiness and supporting him.

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Now through his pin up Gnome and the force that

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 4>she is building under the Department of Homeland Security, he

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 4>is absolutely building his own domestic army, willing and prepared

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 4>to do his bidding. And I think that's just a

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 4>cautionary note that we all have to be aware of.

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:39.920
<v Speaker 4>But there are things I think we should be advocating

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 4>for at our local levels, and that should be no masks.

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 4>If you're an arresting official agency of the government, you

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.800
<v Speaker 4>ought to be able to have your name and displayed

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 4>and no masks.

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 5>On that Andrew again.

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 7>Jasmine Crockett was on with this earlier this week and

0:55:55.880 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 7>she has a bill, the clear Id Act, to prohibit

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 7>people from being in law enforcement and wearing masks approaching

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 7>citizens or any human being on the street without having

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 7>to properly identify yourself.

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why do we have another viewer question? This one

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:18.279
<v Speaker 1>is actually specific to Angela's. I want to shift this

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:20.359
<v Speaker 1>so Angela can answer his question.

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Let's roll it.

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.840
<v Speaker 6>My question, Angela is does it serve a purpose? The

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 6>only call out people from the right that call our

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 6>justice Brown Jackson, who I think is genius in VP

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 6>Harris the EI picks when it was actually Canada Biden

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 6>and the Democratic Party that originally called them the EI picks.

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<v Speaker 11>Correct me if I'm wrong, But.

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 6>Wasn't it day Kenneda Biden, in this attempt to get

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 6>the black vote say that he will pick a black

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 6>woman justice before even naming her name. And then it

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 6>was a Democratic Party that turned around and urged.

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Canada Biden to de pick a black.

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:02.439
<v Speaker 11>Women for VP.

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 13>So would you.

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:05.840
<v Speaker 6>Agree that that was a mistake on the part of

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 6>the Dems actually naming a I guess the sense and

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 6>the race before I actually name it the name.

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Okay.

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 7>So here's the thing that I just want to do here,

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 7>I think is so important. As Andrew said, we do

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 7>not traffic in insignificance here, and we absolutely want to

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 7>make sure that we traffic in fact checking. So it

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 7>was not Joe Biden who began the DEI rhetoric. I

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 7>don't know of any Democratic candidate even there are Democratic

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 7>Party strategies now who are saying that we spend too

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 7>much time in DEI.

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 5>And for those of you who missed it, spending.

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 7>Too much time in DEI means spending too much time

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 7>targeting the Blacks. So we actually believe, and I won't

0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 7>say for y'all, but I believe in a moniker that

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 7>the Congressional Black Caucus has long used no permanent friends,

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:02.280
<v Speaker 7>no permanent enemies, just permanent interest. To that end, when

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 7>Joe Biden became the nominee of the Democratic Party nominee

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 7>in twenty twenty, he was actually pushed to do some things.

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 7>There were some key voices that urged him to not

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 7>only pick a black woman vice president, to also pick

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 7>a black women as a Supreme Court justice, and to

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 7>have a black agenda that's not too pander. That's not

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 7>because black people should only be janitors and car salesmen.

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 7>It's actually because, I believe it or not, there's some

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 7>pretty bad ass black women that want these things, demanded

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 7>these things, And I'm a rolling a little clip for

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 7>y'all from twenty twenty from some badass black women who

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:38.880
<v Speaker 7>made these demands.

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 9>Vice President Biden, you need us, you owe us.

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Black women are miracle workers.

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 5>We have been saving the Democratic Party since nineteen sixty five.

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 5>Twenty twenty is no different.

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 14>Your only path to victory is through Black women.

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.200
<v Speaker 5>The voters that need to turn out. We know how

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 5>to mobilize them. Our votes must not be taken for granted.

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>The following commitments will begin to show black voters that

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you are serious about US.

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 5>America needs a black woman vice president. Candidates like Amy

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 5>Klobuchar will not energize US. America needs a.

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Justice.

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 5>Remember Anita Hill.

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:31.440
<v Speaker 1>We do America needs more in a comprehensive black agenda.

0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:34.720
<v Speaker 3>The rules are rigged against our communities.

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:38.320
<v Speaker 14>Whether we are talking about a black person who died

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 14>of COVID nineteen because of the lack of access to

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 14>health care, or Ahmad Arbury being killed by vigilantes, or

0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 14>Brianna Taylor, an e and t killed by police while

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<v Speaker 14>laying in her bed.

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<v Speaker 11>We deserve solutions that address systemic racism, economic injustice, and

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<v Speaker 11>domestic terrorism.

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Biden, you enacted drug and crime laws that harmed

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<v Speaker 7>the black community for generations.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden, this must be addressed.

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<v Speaker 14>You must address our oppression and most importantly, embrace our

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<v Speaker 14>power to win the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean the only thing I would add. I

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<v Speaker 4>think I see your receipts, Frian, and we appreciate.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that receipts.

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<v Speaker 3>I see that I got a sweater.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>There she's talking about the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I know, I like the shirt, but I

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<v Speaker 5>like her nails. Press on, I'm gonna get some love it.

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<v Speaker 4>So on this topic, it's just so blackfeof all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>We ask what are we getting for our support? What

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<v Speaker 4>do we get We're the most loyal committed demographic to

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<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Party, and what do we have to show

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<v Speaker 4>for it. Just to go a little bit further back,

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<v Speaker 4>we also made demands on Obama that he make that appointment,

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<v Speaker 4>that final appointment that he had to the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 4>a black woman. He of course made a different choice.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope we can see how regrettable that whole thing

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<v Speaker 4>was anyway, But to the point of us finally demanding

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<v Speaker 4>something for the incredible, inconsistent, reliable support that black folks,

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<v Speaker 4>men and women, but led first by women give to

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<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Party, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very obvious observation to have made, to say,

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<v Speaker 4>all the way up to this point, there is still

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<v Speaker 4>not the perspective of a black woman on the highest

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<v Speaker 4>court in the land. Why And that's a reasonable question

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<v Speaker 4>to be asked, and, by the way, the same question

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<v Speaker 4>that people in other communities ask all the time when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to representation. And so the fact that he

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<v Speaker 4>chose a black women, a woman or a diversity inclusion

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<v Speaker 4>higher still doesn't believe the fact that she's the baddest,

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<v Speaker 4>most qualified, most outstanding justice I have ever seen on

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<v Speaker 4>the United States Supreme Court. I'm a little biased because

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<v Speaker 4>she's from Florida and Miami, but more than anything, she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Also highly qualified.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just caution our community not to accept this

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<v Speaker 4>narrative that diversity, equity, inclusion means didn't deserve it, didn't

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<v Speaker 4>earn it, or isn't qualified. That's what the other side

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<v Speaker 4>wants us to believe about what it means. When you say,

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<v Speaker 4>God damn it, a community is not represented, their voice

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<v Speaker 4>is not at the table. That doesn't mean get the

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<v Speaker 4>most unqualified person, person without the proper credentials.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's what Trump does.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why they've had to raise rave waive so many

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<v Speaker 4>rules to get his people appointed who are not qualified.

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<v Speaker 4>We're simply saying we want to be represented. And by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, the best of us exists, and droves choose

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<v Speaker 4>one of us to represent at this particular level. So

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<v Speaker 4>my only caution is, let's not accept their frame about

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<v Speaker 4>what it means to have diverse workplaces, diverse leadership, diverse ownership,

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<v Speaker 4>diverse anything. Diversity does not equal unqualified. Diversity means I

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<v Speaker 4>need to see myself reflected, and you need to diversity

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<v Speaker 4>of perspectives in order to see the whole picture more clearly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we get through diversity of qualified people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a question, Andrew, because one I echo

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<v Speaker 1>everything you just said. And I'm thrilled always to see

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<v Speaker 1>the machetes make their appearance on Native Land pod. That

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<v Speaker 1>was from an OpEd that we did for the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Post in twenty twenty, and they asked us to do

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<v Speaker 1>a video component. So thrilling to see the women most

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<v Speaker 1>mostly those women are machetes anyway, So shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>my sisters. But Andrew, when you're talking about like coming

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<v Speaker 1>after US diversity, equity and inclusion, you were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>on the call that there's this new piece of legs,

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<v Speaker 1>like essentially the Trump administration is coming after us and

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<v Speaker 1>basically trying to requalify who's the domestic terrorist is so

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<v Speaker 1>much trying to keep up with the news every time

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Trump administration. I always say, it's like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to catch comfetti. I cannot keep up. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what you were talking about, but you seem

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about it, and you seem like this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that has not gotten a lot of coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm a little The way you explained it

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<v Speaker 1>made me nervous, So I want to hear more.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll just say and and and I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to take up too much of our time. But I

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<v Speaker 4>just want our audience to really be aware that with

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<v Speaker 4>all the stuff going on, and there's plenty of it

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<v Speaker 4>for us to stop up, we don't need to miss

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that Donald Trump just this past week UH

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<v Speaker 4>issued a presidential memorandum. It's known as the National Security

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<v Speaker 4>Presidential Memorandum, which shorthand is the n s p M seven,

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<v Speaker 4>the National Security Presidential Memorandum seven that came from Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Now what that memorandum do, To put it in shorthand,

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<v Speaker 4>it declares war on progressive or liberal infrastructure in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>It's donors, it's organization and institutions. It's individuals and staff

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<v Speaker 4>who lead these organizations, say, for instance, the NAACP, save

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, Color of Change, save for instance, insert any

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<v Speaker 4>nonprofit that you can name, either locally or nationally that

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<v Speaker 4>is doing work in service consistent with our values as

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<v Speaker 4>a democracy, but more importantly, our issues and our values

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<v Speaker 4>as people think. Dream defenders think, I don't know the

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<v Speaker 4>tax status of Angela of the State of the people,

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<v Speaker 4>but if it were its own entity, Okay, so if

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<v Speaker 4>there were a secretly and it was its own entity,

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<v Speaker 4>it also is something that you can bring to mind.

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<v Speaker 4>What the President is doing through this executive order is

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<v Speaker 4>one declaring war by basically deciding that these liberal quote

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<v Speaker 4>liberal organizations, extremist organizations as he would categorize them, exists

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<v Speaker 4>to foe met violence against the right. That's simply their framing.

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<v Speaker 4>They are targeting the left or liberal groups that they

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<v Speaker 4>describe as liberal extremists and just determining these groups to

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<v Speaker 4>be domestic terrorist organizations domestic terrorist organizations. What does it

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<v Speaker 4>do to declare them domestic terrorist organizations? It opens up

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<v Speaker 4>a panoply of resources at the federal level that can

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<v Speaker 4>then be used to go after those groups. Who are

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<v Speaker 4>those what are those entities that it opens up? So,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, let me just define the expanded definition

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<v Speaker 4>that it's giving to extremism and domestic terrorism. It now

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<v Speaker 4>includes anti Americanism, anti capitalism, anti Christian support, yes, support

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<v Speaker 4>for the overthrow of the United States government, extremism on migration,

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<v Speaker 4>ray engender, and hostility towards those who hold traditional American

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<v Speaker 4>views on family, religion.

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<v Speaker 3>And morality. Oh my god, Now, how much of that

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<v Speaker 3>is subjective? First of all?

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<v Speaker 10>And every bit of every bit of it protected speech,

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<v Speaker 10>every bit of it, part of protected speech of which

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<v Speaker 10>any of us can have an opinion on creating an

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<v Speaker 10>organization and advocacy agenda around all of that.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the new definition that they are now

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<v Speaker 4>including when they are defining these extremist radical left groups

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<v Speaker 4>who are now being targeted by the federal government. Stephen

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<v Speaker 4>Miller at the White House, we all know him as

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<v Speaker 4>a Deputy chief as Dad, but he's kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>man over everything is going to play point on introducing

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<v Speaker 4>this new domestic era campaign that the administration is undertaking.

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<v Speaker 4>But Stephen Miller is also the same person who is

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<v Speaker 4>quoted as saying that it is a violent political speech

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<v Speaker 4>to call Donald Trump wait for it, an authoritarian. So

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<v Speaker 4>by virtue of calling him an authoritarian now qualifies as

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<v Speaker 4>again this is why we said this is all subjective,

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<v Speaker 4>qualifies as violent rhetoric. But I have another suggestion. This

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<v Speaker 4>is Stephen Miller giving his eulogy or comments at Charlie

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<v Speaker 4>Kirk's large memorial service, and I actually would submit that

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<v Speaker 4>this is violent political rhetoric. Take a listen and let

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<v Speaker 4>me know what you think.

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<v Speaker 12>We will prevail over the forces of wickedness and evil.

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<v Speaker 12>They cannot imagine what they have awakened. They cannot conceive

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<v Speaker 12>of the army that they have arisen in all of us,

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<v Speaker 12>because we stand for what is good, what is virtuous,

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<v Speaker 12>what is noble. And to those trying to incite violence

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<v Speaker 12>against us, those trying to foment hatred against us, what

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<v Speaker 12>do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>You have nothing? You are nothing.

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<v Speaker 12>You are wickedness, you are jealousy, you are envy, you

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<v Speaker 12>are hatred.

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<v Speaker 3>You are nothing.

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<v Speaker 12>You can build nothing, you can produce nothing, you can

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<v Speaker 12>create nothing. We are the ones who build. We are

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<v Speaker 12>the ones who create. We are the ones who lift

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<v Speaker 12>up humanity. You thought you could kill Charlie Kirk, You

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<v Speaker 12>have made him am mortal. You have immortalized Charlie Kirk,

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<v Speaker 12>and now millions will carry on his legacy, and we

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<v Speaker 12>will devote the rest of our lives to finishing the cause,

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<v Speaker 12>this for which Charlie gave his last measure of devotion.

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<v Speaker 12>You cannot defeat us. You cannot slow us, you cannot

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<v Speaker 12>stop us, you cannot deter us. We will carry Charlie

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<v Speaker 12>and Erica in our heart every single day and fight

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<v Speaker 12>that much harder because of what you did to us.

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<v Speaker 12>You have no idea the dragon you have awakened. You

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<v Speaker 12>have no idea how determined we will be to save

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<v Speaker 12>this civilization, to save the West, to save this republic.

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<v Speaker 12>Because our children are strong, and our grandchildren will be strong,

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<v Speaker 12>and our children's children's children will be strong. And what

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<v Speaker 12>will you leave behind?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 12>Nothing to our enemies. You have nothing to give, you

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<v Speaker 12>have nothing to offer, You have nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>To share but bitterness.

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<v Speaker 12>We have beauty, we have light, we have goodness, we

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<v Speaker 12>have determination, we have vision, we have strength. We built

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<v Speaker 12>the world that we inhabit now, generation by generation, and

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<v Speaker 12>we will defend this world. We will defend goodness, we

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<v Speaker 12>will defend light, we will defend virtue. You cannot terrify us,

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<v Speaker 12>you cannot frighten us, you cannot threaten us because we

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<v Speaker 12>are on the side of goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>We are on the side of God.

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<v Speaker 4>So they are enlisting to as part of their assemblage

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<v Speaker 4>of resources to go after these folks. They are assembling

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<v Speaker 4>the United States Attorney Attorney General who will play point

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<v Speaker 4>on this, Homeland Security, the Internal Revenue Service, the IRS

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<v Speaker 4>here of the government, and they are operationalizing what is

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<v Speaker 4>known as the locally well actually across the country, is

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<v Speaker 4>known as basically the terrorism Coordinating Body that can include

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<v Speaker 4>certain state officials and state offices. That includes over twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred employees of the Department of Justice anti terrorism units.

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<v Speaker 4>It evokes at the state and the national level, all

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<v Speaker 4>of the coordinating groups on anti terrorism, and they are

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<v Speaker 4>now all being charged to turn their energy not to

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<v Speaker 4>real threats of terrorism in the United States. They are

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<v Speaker 4>all now being directed to turn their attention to these

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<v Speaker 4>leftist groups, extremist groups who foment violence against the rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, they can start so unclear you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>they can start arresting people, they can start apps. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm when you were talking about this in the car earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I fully understood the scope of what

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying. This is actually don't why this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a breaking news banner across every news station and

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<v Speaker 1>why this is not a one above the fold in

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<v Speaker 1>every news paper right now. I'm embarrassed and ashamed I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know about n SPS seven. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>declaration of war on all bakun SA NLP is you

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<v Speaker 1>know marketing. I mean, this is this goal lead to

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<v Speaker 1>mass This is cointel pro this is McCarthyism.

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<v Speaker 4>Mcarthy absolutely, And for those of us who don't believe

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<v Speaker 4>that it can happen. It has already happened in this

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<v Speaker 4>country before we didn't they didn't have the moniker. The

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<v Speaker 4>difference is is that the power of being able to

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<v Speaker 4>declare these groups domestic terrorists unleashes a set of policies

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<v Speaker 4>that were approved Posts nine to eleven that were used

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<v Speaker 4>by the Bush administration, the warrantless wire tapping, some of

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<v Speaker 4>the other subterranean investigative tools that the government can use.

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<v Speaker 4>It turns all of that operation on and now directs

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<v Speaker 4>it to these quote, enemies of the state that the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump administration identifies. And I'll say one other thing, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll bring it to clothes, which is this entrust and

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<v Speaker 4>basically now obligate. The fbis over forty thousand Joint Terrorism

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<v Speaker 4>Task Force units to now become operational in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>It admonishes the Department of Justice to begin conducting interviews, investigations,

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<v Speaker 4>and interrogations against employees, leaders, executive directors, presidents of these organizations,

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<v Speaker 4>funders of these organizations.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, some of.

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<v Speaker 4>These funders are big money donors, but some of these

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<v Speaker 4>funders are regular people like you and me who are

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<v Speaker 4>giving twenty dollars and twenty cents every month. They now

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<v Speaker 4>get to interrogate these individuals under this auspice to root

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<v Speaker 4>out whether or not there is propaganda or speech within

1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:53.160
<v Speaker 4>these organizations that has the ability to foment violence. The

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<v Speaker 4>other thing that this thing is doing is it is

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<v Speaker 4>not just solving a crime after a crime has happened.

1:14:57.960 --> 1:15:02.040
<v Speaker 4>It is saying that their major goal to prevent prevent

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<v Speaker 4>these violent actions from ever taking place.

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<v Speaker 3>Now what does that do?

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<v Speaker 4>That means it becomes highly subjective, highly theorized by the

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<v Speaker 4>government what they think your intention is, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>get to them basically do the work to drive you

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<v Speaker 4>toward that conclusion. Oh well, we just averted a potential

1:15:19.040 --> 1:15:22.400
<v Speaker 4>terrorist event domester terroists event by keeping the state of

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<v Speaker 4>the people from protesting against the death of citizen X

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<v Speaker 4>Y and Z.

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<v Speaker 3>So y'all, I don't want you to think.

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<v Speaker 4>That this is just going to impact people who are

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<v Speaker 4>the big known names, who are the faces in which

1:15:34.720 --> 1:15:38.080
<v Speaker 4>we recognize every day and are out. The truth is

1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:41.200
<v Speaker 4>is that Ahmad Aubrey or Breonna Taylor, they were just

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<v Speaker 4>regular people before they weren't. These are folks who are

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<v Speaker 4>just living until they get on the wrong side of

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<v Speaker 4>the opinion of the leader. So if you don't think

1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:56.800
<v Speaker 4>autocracy has already taken hold in this country, if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't think that the instruments of government are already being

1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:04.240
<v Speaker 4>organized and leveraged against us, and through this memorandum with

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<v Speaker 4>nobody to stop him or to hold him to account,

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<v Speaker 4>and a Supreme Court who is complicit this expedient move

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<v Speaker 4>toward authority terianism, we are about to be at this

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<v Speaker 4>game by ourselves, y'all. So I want you all to

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<v Speaker 4>look it up, research it, learn more. I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>the whole show to go through all of it, but

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<v Speaker 4>just know that this thing is real, and it is

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<v Speaker 4>believed by the reporting entities that work has already begun,

1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:33.920
<v Speaker 4>that they have already begun on their targets to drive them.

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<v Speaker 5>They have, they have, And I just I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>just flag one other thing.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a an executive memo with an accompanying executive order,

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<v Speaker 7>and I want to be clear that the accompany executive

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<v Speaker 7>order is designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. And

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<v Speaker 7>Antifa has always been an umbrella for anything. They don't

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<v Speaker 7>like anything other, so absolutely, I just I just wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to flag that that this was on the other side

1:16:59.800 --> 1:17:04.080
<v Speaker 7>of Charlie Kirk's murder. They now are trying to pin

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<v Speaker 7>this on all things left, and we know left is

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<v Speaker 7>a spectrum and all of that now is being deemed

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<v Speaker 7>violent to them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Angela, you're one thousand percent right. I mentioned I

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<v Speaker 4>failed to mentioned the Antifa piece of this. They declare

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<v Speaker 4>Antifa terrorist organization, y'all, you can google it right now.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no Antifa board, the Antifa president. It's is

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<v Speaker 4>a theory, it is a it's a theorem, it is

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<v Speaker 4>a belief system. It is ideological. And that's the beauty

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<v Speaker 4>of them identifying Antifa as the instrument because.

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<v Speaker 3>They can go, just like they did during the Red Scare.

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<v Speaker 3>They can go and determine any one of us is Antifa,

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<v Speaker 3>any one of us even though there doesn't even exist

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<v Speaker 3>an organizations such that.

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<v Speaker 7>Is so nice the thing that is the thing. So

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to make sure that we just are very

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<v Speaker 7>clear about this, and please know, for those at home

1:17:58.280 --> 1:18:02.360
<v Speaker 7>who are concerned about this memo guiding them through this

1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:06.120
<v Speaker 7>type of policy, all of this is to keep us

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<v Speaker 7>from focusing on the Ebstein files. I just want to

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<v Speaker 7>be very clear. He is doing everything he is throwing

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<v Speaker 7>the sink, the cold kitchen sink at everybody and anything

1:18:20.520 --> 1:18:23.760
<v Speaker 7>to keep us focused on not focused on the Ebstein files.

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<v Speaker 7>He's willing to defund the government, keep people out of work,

1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:30.080
<v Speaker 7>prevent contractors from being paid, provincial health care, make his

1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:34.120
<v Speaker 7>friends richer, all if it keeps us away from what

1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:36.600
<v Speaker 7>we know is that the heartbeat of this administration. And

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure there are, of course, there are other pieces,

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<v Speaker 7>you know that he's a puppeteer for, you know, Project

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty five and all of that, But some of

1:18:44.600 --> 1:18:47.679
<v Speaker 7>these pieces even go beyond what is in Project twenty

1:18:47.720 --> 1:18:50.880
<v Speaker 7>twenty five. They do, and it's a blueprint, but it's

1:18:50.960 --> 1:18:52.600
<v Speaker 7>not the whole print. And I think we got to

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<v Speaker 7>be clear about what it is, the reason, the pace

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<v Speaker 7>and what and how inflammatory they're being right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Even the piece around the military the other day, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, I think what you're referencing, Angela, is this

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote pep rally, this g I Joe nonsense that

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of War formerly Secretary of Defense Pete Hexseth

1:19:15.720 --> 1:19:17.960
<v Speaker 1>hosted this week, Always a bad idea to gather our

1:19:18.080 --> 1:19:19.920
<v Speaker 1>generals from all across the country and put them in

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<v Speaker 1>one place. But that happened this week so much ridiculousness.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have time to get to it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say I think Epstein files are not all

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<v Speaker 1>these things would have still been happening. I think it

1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:33.679
<v Speaker 1>was always a play just love the zone with chaos

1:19:34.320 --> 1:19:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and institute this authoritarian regime. And how frightening. I just

1:19:37.720 --> 1:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>want to say thank you Andrew for raising this. I

1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:44.560
<v Speaker 1>would like to revisit this discussion if we can in

1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the coming months, because I'm sure we'll start to see

1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the victims of this incredibly draconian policy. And if this

1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:54.479
<v Speaker 1>were happening in any other country, the way we will

1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>be covering it would be very different. So the fact

1:19:57.000 --> 1:19:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that this is happening in America, I can't stress enough.

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<v Speaker 5>Please get the f.

1:20:01.360 --> 1:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Off your phones, stop scrolling, stop doing nothing like the

1:20:07.000 --> 1:20:10.160
<v Speaker 1>red line has been crossed. It is a fire right now.

1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you all what to do, but I

1:20:12.520 --> 1:20:15.120
<v Speaker 1>at least want you to be aware. Closing your eyes

1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:17.639
<v Speaker 1>and checking out doesn't mean that these things aren't happening.

1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:18.639
<v Speaker 1>So this is frightening.

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<v Speaker 4>Tiff to your point, your last point there, and I

1:20:21.600 --> 1:20:24.200
<v Speaker 4>know we're moving on. It is that we all think

1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:26.320
<v Speaker 4>that there's one day, like you turn on a light switch,

1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:30.000
<v Speaker 4>it's dark, and then it's light. That's how it's supposed

1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:33.320
<v Speaker 4>to feel when we become what Trump is making us

1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:37.439
<v Speaker 4>to be. The truth is is that it's already here.

1:20:37.800 --> 1:20:38.320
<v Speaker 3>The people in.

1:20:38.360 --> 1:20:41.439
<v Speaker 4>China, they go to restaurants, they go to movies, they

1:20:41.520 --> 1:20:44.280
<v Speaker 4>get on their phones, and they get to commune with

1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:48.000
<v Speaker 4>each other. But the truth is is that that we

1:20:48.240 --> 1:20:51.479
<v Speaker 4>can still do all those things, except what about when

1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:54.320
<v Speaker 4>you decide that you disagree with the with the government.

1:20:54.560 --> 1:20:56.400
<v Speaker 4>What happens when you decide that you want to know

1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:59.360
<v Speaker 4>why you're being arrested. What happens when you decide to

1:20:59.400 --> 1:21:01.799
<v Speaker 4>speak up against them coming for you and your country?

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<v Speaker 4>Then you start to see the consequences of living in

1:21:05.360 --> 1:21:11.080
<v Speaker 4>an authoritarian regime. I know the topics were heavy and

1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:14.120
<v Speaker 4>somewhat light at different points in the show. But on

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<v Speaker 4>the other side of this break, you stay tuned, you

1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:18.000
<v Speaker 4>hear our CTA's.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we are way over time, so let's quickly

1:21:29.800 --> 1:21:31.120
<v Speaker 1>get to our CTAs.

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<v Speaker 5>Angela.

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<v Speaker 7>You want to go first, okay? So for CTAs TIF,

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<v Speaker 7>I need a second. I don't know, I'll think it's

1:21:40.040 --> 1:21:40.400
<v Speaker 7>something quick.

1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Over time we way over times. I'm gonna be really quick,

1:21:44.479 --> 1:21:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll go. My CTA is there's an incredible organization called

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<v Speaker 1>Prison Journalism, and it is a program that teaches the

1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:57.439
<v Speaker 1>incarcerated how to be journalists, and so they write really

1:21:57.680 --> 1:22:02.439
<v Speaker 1>amazing stories about their experience being imprisoned. Some of the

1:22:02.479 --> 1:22:05.760
<v Speaker 1>stories are things like to avoid deportation, people want to

1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:09.120
<v Speaker 1>stay longer at my prison. Another one is air conditioning

1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:12.839
<v Speaker 1>is coming to Texas prisons, but not fast enough. Another

1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>is what my mornings are like in prison. I read

1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:20.799
<v Speaker 1>this content because I can't take the influx of atrocities happening,

1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and so I just want the men and women who

1:22:23.560 --> 1:22:26.160
<v Speaker 1>are incarcerated to know you are not forgotten about. I

1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:29.519
<v Speaker 1>read your stories. I encourage other people. You can go

1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:31.679
<v Speaker 1>to prison Journalism dot com, I think is the website.

1:22:31.760 --> 1:22:33.719
<v Speaker 1>They also have an Instagram handle. I have some friends

1:22:33.720 --> 1:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>who are on the board and I was reading stories

1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this week and thought, oh, I should talk about this

1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:40.400
<v Speaker 1>on Native Land. So that's my CTA. If you have

1:22:40.520 --> 1:22:43.000
<v Speaker 1>family in prison, if you know anybody, please let them

1:22:43.040 --> 1:22:45.320
<v Speaker 1>know that I said it. And if you happen to

1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:48.519
<v Speaker 1>have access to our YouTube and watch NLP, just know

1:22:48.600 --> 1:22:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that you are not forgotten about. I think about our

1:22:50.720 --> 1:22:54.519
<v Speaker 1>brethren and sisters behind bars every day, especially since Angela

1:22:54.600 --> 1:22:58.519
<v Speaker 1>recommended that I read Asada, which I'm still obsessed with.

1:22:59.160 --> 1:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So think about that for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Andrew, absolutely, rest in peace is a good one.

1:23:04.760 --> 1:23:10.560
<v Speaker 4>And power I will I will simply ask and admonish you.

1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Please please please go and read or google just in

1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:24.120
<v Speaker 4>as a Nathan s p M seven n sp M seven,

1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:28.519
<v Speaker 4>look it up. We cannot be caught unawares. We need

1:23:28.640 --> 1:23:32.200
<v Speaker 4>to know what's coming down, and especially because we are

1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:34.320
<v Speaker 4>at the center of its its target, and its impact,

1:23:34.840 --> 1:23:36.280
<v Speaker 4>we gotta know Google it.

1:23:37.320 --> 1:23:38.760
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I guess it's my turn.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the only thing that I would challenge our

1:23:45.360 --> 1:23:50.080
<v Speaker 7>audience within this moment is during our live show, I

1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:53.519
<v Speaker 7>ask folks to really contemplate why they are made for

1:23:53.600 --> 1:23:55.559
<v Speaker 7>this moment. And I think it's something that we need

1:23:55.640 --> 1:23:58.800
<v Speaker 7>to be asking ourselves every day. To Andrew's point, being

1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:01.200
<v Speaker 7>caught unaware, to tips point feeling like you're trying to

1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:05.360
<v Speaker 7>catch confetti, you have to constantly ask yourself what gifts,

1:24:05.479 --> 1:24:08.400
<v Speaker 7>what talents, what tools do you have? What time do

1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:10.519
<v Speaker 7>you have to really try to meet this moment that

1:24:10.640 --> 1:24:13.200
<v Speaker 7>we're in it's just not one for us to rest

1:24:13.280 --> 1:24:15.360
<v Speaker 7>on our laurels, and it doesn't mean that folks can't

1:24:15.360 --> 1:24:17.400
<v Speaker 7>take a break. But I do think that this is

1:24:17.479 --> 1:24:20.000
<v Speaker 7>a moment for mass action and I'm hoping that everybody

1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:22.559
<v Speaker 7>will join us in that, And you can start by

1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:27.120
<v Speaker 7>joining us this upcoming weekend at Culture Con where we

1:24:27.200 --> 1:24:30.800
<v Speaker 7>will be live, and also, as Tip said earlier in

1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:32.200
<v Speaker 7>the show, you will also.

1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:33.519
<v Speaker 5>Be able to catch it Monday if you can't get

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<v Speaker 5>to New York on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to seeing y'all the most in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>but hopefully looking forward to seeing our audience as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen to me, gill get started. You are my actual family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, he hyphenates Andrew Gillim Ryuh.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, it's a lot of misinformation. Jay, you guys, it

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<v Speaker 5>is really gross toasted. I like Briber, I don't mind it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there are three hundred and ninety seven days until

1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>midterm elections. After everything we heard about NSPSM seven, I

1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>hope I got that right. I'm extra concerned about midterms.

1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that we're laying down. We're going to

1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>fight everywhere we can anytime we can. But reminding you,

1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:21.599
<v Speaker 1>guys how many days there are until midterm elections also

1:26:21.760 --> 1:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>warrants a reminder that our very democracy is under attack.

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<v Speaker 1>As much of democracy as we've had the limited experience

1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>to endure here in America. All right, Welcome home y'all,

1:26:33.800 --> 1:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>thanks for tuning in. And oh, by the way, check

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<v Speaker 1>out this week's mini pod. We have doctor Joy, you

1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>know her from hosting Therapy for Black Girls. She's going

1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to be the guest on our mini pod. We're gonna

1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:47.120
<v Speaker 1>also on our minipod get some more of your viewer questions.

1:26:47.680 --> 1:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Then we're gonna talk a little bit about Serena Williams

1:26:50.080 --> 1:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and Megan Kelly. We didn't get to it this show,

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<v Speaker 1>but that will be featured on our mini pod, so

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