1 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: What's up everyone, Welcome back to Meat eaters Ere Talk podcast. 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: Jordan bud here your co host and then co hosting 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: with me. Is you honest, I'll tell us he's on 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we're just gonna do a quick recap 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: over I don't know, in the last couple of months 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: of the year, and then we're into the new year 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: now and we're gonna talk a little bit about the 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: gear we used, and it's pretty much it. What's been 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: going on, Ynnie, Uh, you know for me ever since 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: I got back from Latvia in September. And if you 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: want to hear how that hunt went, go check out 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: the h I think it was the Christmas episode of 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: the Meat Eater Podcast. Is that right? I think so? Yeah, 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: we're uh, Steve quiz me a little bit about my 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: trip over there. Let's do are fun? Uh, But since Latvia, 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I did a couple of Wisconsin white tail deer hunts. 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Unfortunately was not successful, but I had a good time, 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: learned a lot. And then since then, really once uh 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: December opened up or started, well, I was gonna say, 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: all I've been doing his line hunting. That's not true. 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: I went out with Max Barda for the first week 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: of December, and did some goose hunting, some dry uh 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: what do they call it? Dry field? I'm such an 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: inexperienced waterfall hunt I alna even know what it's called. 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: But we hunted geese in Montana. We also got lucky 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: and had some ducks come in on our spread one day, 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: so I think we had like a bonus three or 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: four mallards um, which is super fun. But since then 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: it's been all uh, lion hunting all the time, as 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: much as possible, which it turns out I'm learning this 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: slowly is because I'd like to say I'm just out 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: there catching lions, but actually I'm just out there are um, 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: driving my snowmobile, driving my truck and hiking looking for 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: mountain lion or bobcat tracks. And I wish I had 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: had a better journal CAPTI than me and go back 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: and write down my notes for the year to tell 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: you like how many days I have to go look 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: just to find a track, and then how many you 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: know tracks I find versus how how many times that equals, 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, finding getting a cat in a tree? But 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: right now the tally as of the fourth of January 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: or sorry, the fifth of January is two mount lions 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: and one bobcat. So that's what I've been up to. 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: What about you, Oh, I think, uh last time we 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: talked was probably I think we just got done with 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: the Idaho general season. I shot a buck there and 47 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: then I went to Wyoming on a tag that I 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: drew and just we just had. It was rough. It 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: was really rough. It's far as I just saw like, 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I didn't see very many bucks at all, saw tons 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: of does, didn't see very many bucks saw. Everything we 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: did see was pretty little. So um, we were there 53 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: for like four or five days, and then we went 54 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: to Montana and uh Leah shot a buck like pretty 55 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: much the first morning that we were there, and then 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: that was it. That kind of closed out our our 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: western hunting, well a little bit of our western hunting. 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: And then I went back to Nebraska and guided through 59 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: November and December the first part of December and got 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: the got the outfit, taken care of as far as 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: clients go, and then man, that's pretty much it, or 62 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: I guess I did. I went back to Montana with 63 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: we did a hunt with six hour in Montana, I 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: shot a white tail buck. So m hmm. That's right. 65 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: I saw that with Lydia Smith and a couple other gals. Yeah, 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Jess Johnson was there and it was fun. And if 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: you want to see uh, Jordan's Fall full of mule 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: deer hunting, Uh, you can check out what you call 69 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the you put together. Actually, that's a good question. I 70 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: don't remember what I called it. I think I just 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: said mule deer, right, or the hunting moon or something. 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: The hunting moon, Yeah, which is a very clever, cute 73 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: little idea. There's the hunting Moon. I don't know how 74 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: many other people have you used that, but you're probably 75 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: not the first one. But I like, I like the 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: idea of a hunting man. It was a man, it was. 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: It was a blast, honestly, it was so fun. So 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: since then, I've just been back in Idaho trying to hike, 79 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: have been hitting the winter range a little bit, just 80 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: like looking at Bucks and just trying to, I don't know, 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: get out more than anything, stay out and try not 82 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: to get too comfy in the house because it's pretty 83 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: easy to do. After you've been out for you know, 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: kind of a hard fall or a long fall. Oh, 85 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: it's so easy to do. It gets cold, that's One 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: of the great things I think I feel about cat 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: hunting and hound hunting in the winter is that it's 88 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: been still getting me up early in the morning, getting 89 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: me out. I saw him in getting as much hiking 90 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: in as I'd like to, because, like I said, there's 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: a lot of time spent just driving, uh whatever vehicle 92 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: it is to you know, try to find the tracks. 93 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: But hopelly, my luck is gonna change. I'll start finding 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: more tracks and that that always leads to more hiking. Yeah. Sweet, 95 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: what's your What is your three shaping up? So far? 96 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. Like before, it seems like the 97 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: season barely gets over and it's already application season right now. Yeah, 98 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: my spring, I don't I don't want to say that 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: I've got like every single date planned, but I think 100 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I've I've pretty much got an idea at least of 101 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I mean, it's as far as hunting goes, 102 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: it's the lion hunting is gonna lead or right into turkeys. 103 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Steve and I drew a Seola tags in Florida's We're 104 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: going to film a meteor episode down in Florida for Ociola, 105 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: which I'm super excited about and that's early March, so 106 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: I actually like get back from that and still be 107 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: able to lion hunt for another month, but uh, you know, 108 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: that'll roll right into you know, regular Turkey and then um, 109 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: I'll probably squeeze in a solid week of bear hunting. 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: I really want to put some effort into that this 111 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: year and get myself bear and uh you know, yeah, 112 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: then it'll be a short you know summer and uh 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: we'll be uh right back into fall. So yeah, it's 114 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: crazy to think how fast it all goes. But um, 115 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's I got a lot of irons 116 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: in the fire for the fall. I probably need to 117 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: sit down and like you know, pick and choose and 118 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: and focus in on what it's gonna be and you know, 119 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: make sure I got the hunts planned with the kids 120 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: and plenty of time set aside for all that. So 121 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: um and then you know how it is, it's always 122 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: with that with applying for tags, and I don't do 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of states compared to others. I do like 124 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: three or four. But I'm getting to the point in 125 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: some states where I could get lucky and uh, you 126 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: know and draw a good tag, which kind of always 127 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: throws a ranch in things. But yeah, yeah, there's a 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: there's a there's an ELK tag that I should draw. 129 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm like right on the cusp of the points, especially 130 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: if we keep getting some creep happening. Um, but I 131 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: should draw it. Hopefully that will be like a November 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of like a later season l count, which I 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: really like with a rifle. And then man, it's kind 134 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: of just general, some general stuff. We're actually talking about 135 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: going to Hawaii in May for access here and then 136 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: attack on a couple extra days for uh, just a 137 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: little relaxation trip in Hawaii, so I haven't been down there, 138 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: so that'll be interesting, especially to see like how they 139 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: hunt on the island too, I think will be pretty cool. Yeah. 140 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I like to do that too. It's a great way 141 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: to do some big game hunting with your bow, you know, 142 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: and staying stay in bow shape. I guess you, I 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: guess you can probably hunt them with whatever you want 144 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: when you're there, right because I don't think they really 145 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: have seasons, so it's pretty open. Yeah, pretty open for 146 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: what weapon you want to use. But uh, yeah, we 147 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: that's that's I I forgot. We might go to Texas 148 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: in February March to do some nil guy calling actually, 149 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: and then if we did that, we'd go down and 150 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: uh and try to shoot some pigs with the bow 151 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: and arrow too. All right, let's get to uh top 152 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: top you put in their top. We have a little 153 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: outline that Jordan I work off of, and it's a 154 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: top three gear items of the year. And that was 155 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: very daunting when I saw that, I like, there's no 156 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: way I can pick out like top three gear items. 157 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: So I ended up with four. And I ended up 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: just deciding that instead of like the top three that 159 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't know how you'd even 160 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: value rate that. But it's more like what I'm excited about, 161 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: what I've had fun using what seems to be, you know, 162 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: working well for me. So anyways, you want to kick 163 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: it off, Yeah, yeah, I'll kick it off. So I 164 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: started we started using the the ar Golly, the fourth person. 165 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: I think they call it the Absaroka tent Um. It's 166 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: basically it's they call it the fourth person. It's been 167 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: good for two of us. And then you can still 168 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: put gear in a two. It's like tick under three pounds, 169 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: just as the tent fly is. And then you can 170 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: pitch it. You can pitch it with their pole, or 171 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: you can actually just had new treking polls that came 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: out that they have like a connector that screws on 173 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: the top of one treking pole and the screws on 174 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: to the top of the other one, So then you 175 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: can get like a super extended one pole, and so 176 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: you could pitch it like that too, which I used. 177 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: We used it like that a couple of times in 178 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: the pretty nice. But it definitely it definitely saves the weight. 179 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: But I've I've found for me every time I do that, 180 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, but now I want my checking polls, 181 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: So don't bring my tent down and pack it all 182 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: with me. If you're gonna hunt like that, it's great. 183 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna like set up a base camp 184 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: and then hunt out of it, it's definitely better just 185 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to bring the center pole. Yeah, you know, I've done 186 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: like a couple of times with tents. Is like you 187 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: know when they have the trekking pole tents that you 188 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: have to use your two trekking poles, not just one together. 189 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: It's like, well, I'm thinking of like the Seek outside 190 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: the Oldists or something like that. Um, I would leave 191 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: one pole up and then when we left in the morning, 192 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: I would take the other pole out so I could 193 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: use it, and then just like set a rock on 194 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: top of the tents so it wouldn't flop around. And 195 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: then when I got back, I could just take the 196 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: back up. And it seems I guess you could always 197 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: just have a saw with you and uh just cut 198 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: a just cut a nice long straight young you know, 199 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: for tree or something. True. Yeah there, but uh yeah 200 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: to the this ur golly it. Uh you can get 201 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: like a net like floor insert And I used that 202 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: when we were in Alaska this year caribou hunting, so 203 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: I used that. I didn't know what the bugs situation 204 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: was going to be like, so I wanted to have 205 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: the net. But here in the lower forty eight, like 206 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: we just to save a little bit of the bulk 207 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: we just ended up. I went to Ari. I think 208 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: it bought like a Nemo three person footprint for a tent, 209 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and then it has little steak points on it so 210 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: you could stick it out inside of the floral less 211 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: and then it's like your ground sheet for sleeping pads 212 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: and for and we we had our pads right side 213 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: by side together. But if you were just going by yourself. 214 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: You could get like a one person or two person 215 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: and they're pretty light, full down, small, fairly durable MATERI 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: areal it seemed like, and uh yeah you can stick 217 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: them out and then it's a good groundcloth for your pad, 218 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: uh to help you know, protect it and does some 219 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: other things too. So that's pretty much what we ran. 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: And that was I mean, that was like, that was 221 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: awesome for for two of us, and even like just 222 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: for one person packing it in, it's you know, it's 223 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: not heavy, especially when you compare something the size of 224 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: like the footprint that you get with that and the 225 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: size compared to like just a regular pitched free standing 226 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: tent with the same way, like you just get a 227 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: lot more room. So that was pretty awesome. Yeah, I'm 228 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: a fan. There's still a lot of people that will 229 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: comment when I do a post about a floorless tent, 230 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: like why would you you know, skip the floor and 231 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: you know water is gonna get in there and um, 232 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: you know bugs and snakes and whatever. Uh. I guess 233 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: where we hunt mostly out West, it just it's not 234 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: an issue and the water, you know, unless you just 235 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: happen to like pitch in a place where you know 236 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: you pitched it in a low spot, meaning that everything 237 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: around you is higher and it's going to cause the 238 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: water to run to you, um, which would be just 239 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: a bad move on your part. And if you even 240 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: if you put up you know, regular tent with the 241 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: bathtub floor, if it all ran in there, it was 242 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: just soaking like that, um. And you have the pressure 243 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: of your body laying there, it's gonna push that moisture 244 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: through there too. Um. So that's you know, if you 245 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: pitch your tent in a proper location, moisture is not 246 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: anything to worry about. But the big advantage is, like 247 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: you said, just the room. There's so much more room. 248 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: It's so much more comfortable, and you don't notice it 249 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: when the weather is nice because you're not spending time 250 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: in your tent. You like, you get in there, getting 251 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: your bag and you go to sleep. But when you 252 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: get caught and it's like a trip where there's a 253 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: bunch of rain or some snow or you're fogged in 254 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: and you're all sudden you're hanging out in the tent. Um, Man, 255 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: does it make a difference just to be able to 256 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: get out of the weather and hang out comfortably. You know, 257 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: read a book yeah, and I'm like that specific one. 258 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm like five ten and I can. I have to 259 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: like tilt my head over a little bit when I'm 260 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: in it, but you can stand up. At least, you know, 261 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: you're not only being able to sit up and your 262 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: head's hitting the top of the tent. So that's nice. 263 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: And then not even to mention like being able to 264 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: run a stove in it. You know, some of these 265 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: companies like Seek Outside, Kafaru, there's other ones that are 266 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: popping up now. They're making these little stoves you can 267 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: carry with you, wood stoves that are like two pounds, 268 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: and so, yeah, toss a two pounds stove in there, 269 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: and especially later season when you want to dry stuff 270 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: out or honestly, it just gets dark really fast, and 271 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: it gets dark at five thirty and then you're just 272 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: sitting there for three hours while you're waiting to go 273 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: to bed or whatever. It's nice to have a fire ribbon. Yeah, yeah, 274 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: it's the more comfortably you are, the harder you're gonna hunt, 275 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: the longer you're gonna hunt. Hopefully that equals more success. 276 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: All right, what else you got? Uh? I guess second 277 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: on mine, I've got a set of boots that I 278 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: ran this year, the Crispy Bristol Pro. They're a ten 279 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: inch tall, I wrote, or I wore the regular Bristol 280 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: quite a bit. I really like that boot, but it 281 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: is I think it's a seven inch hot height. So 282 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: the pros they just made those tens. There are two 283 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Graham insulation, which it's like not a lot, but it's 284 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: pretty good for me and might be get pretty cold easy, 285 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: so even in like October, being able to just like 286 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: knock the chill off as long as you can start 287 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: warm usually. Um Uh, it's a leather boot, the flex, 288 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, like out of a five scale a flex, 289 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: it's a four, so it's pretty narrow too. It's like 290 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: it's a good for me, Like I like a stiffer boot. 291 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: I've had some ankle issues where I've like rolled my 292 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: ankle really bad, stretched it out, and really soft flexible boots, 293 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: especially like side hilling or going straight up a hill, 294 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: have seemed to give me fits. But so a stiffer 295 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: boot has really helped me with that. So, um that 296 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: to me is like a good It's a good combination 297 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: of like a mountaineering type like fit where it's really 298 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: a narrow like it's a it's a technical type boot, 299 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: but it's still like full leather and still has some 300 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: good rock or to it. It's still comfy, if that 301 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: makes sense. It doesn't feel just like a ski boot. Um. 302 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, do you feel like you could hike in 303 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: that boot on a like a hard packed trail for 304 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: five miles and it would still be comfortable? Yeah? I do. Yeah, 305 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: I think so. And then even I've been wearing it 306 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: quite a bit um here in the off season, just 307 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: like and most of that has been on trails, So 308 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: it's a yeah, it was a good boot for me. Yeah, 309 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: I need to I need to figure out what I'm 310 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: gonna try it from Crispy that might be the the 311 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: thing to try. I need something just a little bit 312 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: of insulation, um, especially for a running around this time 313 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: of year. Um, which I'll, i'll, i'll, i'll. That's a 314 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: nice segue because one of my one of my top 315 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: picks two that I've been excited about was boots. And 316 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: what I've mostly been wearing. I'll start with with these 317 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: mostly been wearing i'd say most of the fall, aside 318 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: from the early season, which was i'd say through September. 319 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: It's still the Schnas Bear tooth, and I've been trying 320 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: some other boots. I'm not gonna get into all the 321 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: other boots that I've tried this fall, but I keep 322 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: coming back to those. It's just a really solid all around, 323 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, leather boot. UM. Certainly not as stiff. I've 324 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: never haven't worn that Brickstol, but I don't think it's 325 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: nearly as stiff as that. UM. It's definitely a little 326 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: bit softer, which in a way is nice because there's 327 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: literally almost no breaking period. I feel like with those 328 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: bare tooths UM, and they just they're comfortable. My feet 329 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: have a the Romas in them, and so a super 330 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: stiff soul will irritate that after a while and you know, 331 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: cause me a lot of pain. So that a little 332 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: bit of a softer flex is nice. I think they 333 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: put it on the the one or two scale over 334 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: there Schnais out of a four UM. But it's just uh, 335 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a no frills kind of a boot, 336 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: which I like about it. They got a new uh, 337 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: they changed a couple of the islets on it and 338 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: so it laces up even faster. UM. They got rid 339 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: of that kind of locking islet that was the one 340 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: around the ankles, which I never was a huge fan of, 341 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: but um, just solid, solid, uh boot. And sometimes I 342 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: feel like, oh, everybody needs to come up with something new, 343 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: but then you go back to like the old trusted 344 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: product and you're like, oh, yeah, this is solid and 345 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I can trust it and it works every day. But 346 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: that being said, when I can get away with something lighter, 347 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: I do. And this September I was running around in 348 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: the han Wog Makra, which my first pair of Hanwags. 349 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: I've had a few friends, uh that have worn it. 350 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: I worn it on our caribou hunt in Alaska. I 351 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: really liked it. Super lightweight, but definitely stiffer. And again 352 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I know it's it's it's hard to you know, tell 353 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: people when we say stiffer, lighter, what exactly that means. 354 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: Me A lot of the stuff we learned from Kendall, 355 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks ago and to how 356 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: those ratings can change between companies, but certainly stiffer than 357 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: my bear tooths, and it does that stiffness does perform, 358 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: like you were saying, side hill and going straight up 359 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: steep stuff. Um, you don't you can kind of just 360 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: kick in your boots a little bit harder, you know, 361 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: into the side of a hill, which I think chasing 362 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: Elk in September. I really like it, and I like 363 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: just it's a it's a shorter boot, it's generally lighter 364 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: um and it makes me feel faster. Whether or not 365 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: I actually am, I don't know, but it's a great 366 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: boot fit good it. I think it still has plenty 367 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: of life left in it for for next September two. 368 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: I feel like when you're talking about the bear Tooths, 369 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: those are that's a boot that's like oftentimes we'll hear 370 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: people ask what if you could only have one? Because 371 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: we do, you know, we are lucky enough if we 372 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: get to use a lot of different boots and boots 373 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: that are meant to be in certain situations. But it's like, 374 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: if you're somebody that hunts September through November, like the 375 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Macra might not be the greatest boot for November or yeah, 376 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: but like the bear Tooth or something like that is 377 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: kind of if you can only have one boot, like, 378 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: that's a boot to look at. And I think I've 379 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: been using the Timberline just for like maybe the last month, 380 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: and that's a boot for me. Then I'm like, if 381 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: somebody was looking for a boot, that's like, if you 382 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: could only have one, I think that that would be 383 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: that could be a good option too. Yeah, it's very 384 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: similar to the bare tooth. It's one flex rating less 385 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: then the bare tooth has um but very similar like 386 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: easy to break in, comfortable right out of the box, 387 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: and uh yeah right, Like if you had to, you 388 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: could easily wear that uninsulated bear tooth from August all 389 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: the way into December. I mean I've been running around 390 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Mount Lion hunting and hunting in it in some super 391 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: cold tempts and yes, on a zero degree day to 392 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: my feet start to get cold mid day, you know, 393 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: especially if I'm not moving around. Is doing too much, 394 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: is riding on the snowmobile? Yes, um, But that being said, 395 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: it's still is still getting the job done for the 396 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: most sweet And that's what those like brickstels for me 397 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: are two is like, if I could only have one boot, 398 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: like that's probably what I would choose, insulated or none. 399 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: I they do make it on a non insulated I 400 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: would still probably stick with the even even in the 401 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: early season, Like my feet just sweat anyways, So it's 402 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: like I don't know. I would rather have them for 403 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: it when you're dipping a little later in the season 404 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: and deal with the hotness early season. Interesting. I'm just 405 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: gonna go with another pair of thicker socks when it 406 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: gets Yeah, dive into your next one. Yeah. It's this 407 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: kind of a combo gear combo serious Apollo arrows and 408 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: the tough head evolution. Uh two point o broadheads. I 409 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: shot two critters with those this year. Um, a nil 410 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: guy in February and then a bull elk in September. Uh. 411 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Both times they performed absolutely well. The nil guy I 412 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: hit exactly where I was aiming. Um, it was a 413 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: heavy quarter and away shot had to go through a 414 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: bunch of guts to get to the vitals. It did. 415 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: I believe that the setup that that is a single blade, uh, 416 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: single bevel um heavy arrow gave me that penetration of 417 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: at least two ft maybe you know, three ft of 418 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: of like seriously dense gut to get into the vitals, 419 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: stowing all the way through the vitals and almost poked 420 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: out the front end of the animal. Um, it was 421 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: not great blood until he started coming uh you know, 422 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: blood started coming out of his mouth and nose, because 423 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: because I got the lungs, but at that point he 424 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: pretty much tipped over and died anyway, So he went 425 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: sixty seventy yard. It's um, my elk wasn't quite so 426 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: good of a shot, same same positioning, just a little 427 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: bit farther the you know, quartering away, but a little 428 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: bit farther instead of twenty five, it was closer to 429 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: forty and ended up hitting him in the key star, 430 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: which I think I can't remember I talked about on 431 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: this podcast or on or on the Mediator podcast, but 432 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: either way you can listen to the whole story somewhere else. 433 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: But both instances, it just it worked really well. Whether 434 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: it was you know, exactly where I was aiming, or 435 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: if the animal jumped and I missed my mark a 436 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: little bit. Um, it did the trick, and I was 437 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: able to quickly recover both animals, and uh just very 438 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised. UM. I did actually switch over to try 439 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: some eastern accesses in for my white tail deer hunting, 440 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: and I was going to try the iron will broadheads 441 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: on that hunt. Unfortunately I just never got a shot opportunity. 442 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: So hopefully this year I'll be able report on the 443 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: performance of those. But yeah, super stoked on on how 444 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: they worked. And um, it's a heavy set up, six 445 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: fifty grains. It's a it's a slow moving set up. 446 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: But like I said, for the two times that well, 447 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: I should say two times on on big heavy bone critters, 448 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: it worked very well. I also shot two pigs. One 449 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: I hit right where I was where I should have 450 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: hit it. It died immediately. The other pig I hit 451 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: high like in the and basically across the backstrap, you know, 452 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: missed the vitals, missed the spine. And uh, I'm pretty 453 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: sure that pigs still living unless it's um, you know, 454 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, be eaten being eaten by some predator 455 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: or somebody else shot it. So uh yeah, let's see you. 456 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: Uh what else did you have on your list? So, 457 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: something that I've been using a long time quite a 458 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: long time now is the doorsman's pan head. And one 459 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to talk about it is 460 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: just its integration with like pan head to the window 461 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: mount to like your bino adapter. Um. Like, there's a 462 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: ton of different tripod heads out there, and like there's 463 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: certainly some that are cheaper, like, uh, you can pick 464 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: up I think that Doorsmans pan heads like four hundred 465 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: bucks and you're talking about the new one that's like 466 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger. Right now, this is just the 467 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: regular pan head. I think it's like the first head 468 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: that they ever came out with. Two got it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 469 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: we got on the meat Eater site for yeah. So 470 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: a little more expensive than what you can get. But 471 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: one thing I really like about it is if you're 472 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: looking at the head on the bottom of it, it 473 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: actually has a dove tail type system that is the 474 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: same as like the the plate that you would put 475 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: on your on your binoculars or on your spotting scope 476 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: to put on top of the head. It's hard to 477 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: explain because there's just not a lot of other people 478 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: that do it like that. What you can do with 479 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: that is on your tripod, no matter what tripods you're using, 480 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: you can put their quick detach on top of that tripod, 481 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: so it is just a dovetail slide your head on 482 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: top of your tripod instead of screwing it on. And 483 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: what that does for me is like a lot of 484 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: the times, especially in Nebraska later season, we are we're 485 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: out of vehicles a lot, and we're using window mounts 486 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: a lot. So like if you use a window mount 487 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot, this is where I think this system really shines. Um. Basically, 488 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: their window mount is just a little thing. It's basically 489 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: you can hold it in my hand. It's pretty small. 490 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: You screwed on your window and then it has the 491 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: dovetail on top of it to receive the tripod head, 492 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: so I can I can slide the tripod head off 493 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: of a tripod and put it onto the window mount, 494 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: and then I'm using the same head on my window 495 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: mount as I am on my tripod, and then everything 496 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: like all my adapters for for my bino adapters for 497 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: spotting scopes, all my plates will still work on my 498 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: window mount. Where like typically you get into a situation 499 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: where like you have your tripod in your head system 500 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: and you have to take your spotting scope off of it, 501 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: take your plate off, put the plate on for your 502 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: window mount, and run it like that. This one just 503 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: this system just keeps it like, just keeps it more streamlined. 504 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: You're not losing plates forgetting to put them back on whatever. Um, 505 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just a system. Nothing nothing worse than 506 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: showing up for a hunt and realizing that you've got 507 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: everything besides like three plates and you need one for 508 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, binoculars spot or and I don't know, maybe 509 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: you have a like a shooting v or something said, 510 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, attached to war, but nothing worse. When you're like, oh, 511 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to change plates like every single time 512 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: between things, that's a that's a I've never thought. I've 513 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: never mess with their window mount. It's something I might 514 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: have to, because, yeah, that is slick when you can 515 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: just take the whole tripod head and just move it 516 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: from tripod over to the window mount. Yeah, And I 517 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: think like if you have hunting buddies that you're hunting 518 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: with a lot, like if you can get them kind 519 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: of all everybody on the same system, then like I can. 520 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 1: I can give you my spatting scope. You could throw 521 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: it on your head real quick, like you can switch 522 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: things back and forth if you want to look through 523 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: my fifteens or whatever. It already is going to have 524 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: the same bin amount on it to just switch everything around. 525 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: So it's like kind of an expensive entry to get 526 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: into it. But man, like I've been using that system 527 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: for a long time and I just like I can't 528 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: get myself to switch because it's so slick. So yeah, 529 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: my only uh critique about that head is that I 530 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: have a hard time finding like locking it to a 531 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: position where it'll still move, but the weight of whatever 532 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: is on there won't let it won't make it fall over. 533 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Where like it's almost like it's 534 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: either kind of locked off solid to where you can't 535 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: move the head, or you open it up and the 536 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: thing gets so much plan it that you almost have 537 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to be holding onto the the handle to keep it 538 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: from from you know, falling up and down. So usually 539 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: when I'm usually when I'm doing that head, I'll lock 540 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: off the tilt and just keep the pan open and 541 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: just pan left and right, and then I'll adjust the 542 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: tilt to another you know section of hill that I'm glassing, 543 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: and then lock it off again and do that. Yeah, 544 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: it is like it's not like a like a video 545 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: head that you can move around. But uh yeah, lightweight. 546 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: You gotta love it. Yeah, all right, Um, the omen 547 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: rain pants, but I'm gonna talk about how they're great 548 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: for hunting and snow. Um, I'm kind of fed up 549 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: with gators and I've tried a bunch of them, and 550 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean a bunch of them. I think I'm sitting 551 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: on four different pairs right now, and I think it's 552 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: they are the four They're the best on the market 553 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: right now. Um, and they all seem to have the 554 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: same problem. No matter how tight I get it up 555 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: at the top of my calf, eventually, you know, if 556 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: it is deep snow, it's actually over the top of 557 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: the gator. Eventually snow starts to build up at that 558 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: the junction between the top of the gator and my pants. 559 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: You're getting snow in there. Maybe a buckle comes loose, 560 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: you get more snow in there. Uh, they'll eventually it 561 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: seems like they get pushed down or they slide down, 562 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, if you're like they get caught maybe on 563 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: a log you're crossing, they get kind of slid down 564 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. You don't notice. Then you have snow, 565 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, above them on your pants. It's just it's me. 566 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: It's an imperfect system. Um. On the bottoms, I always 567 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, no matter how perfect, I get that 568 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: fit on the on the on my boot and stretch 569 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: them out nice and tighten and you know, get my 570 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: the stirrup not you know, just right. Eventually snow can 571 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: still work in between the gator and my usually leather 572 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: boot and it's gonna slowly just start to get that 573 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: boot wet. UM. So instead, I took a little something 574 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: from what back country skiers do and also my buddy 575 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Jake because my main line mentor, he runs this program too, 576 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: but basically running heavy duty rain pants for hunting in 577 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: the snow, and those I don't know if I'm sure 578 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: there's other Honey company that have an internal gator built 579 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: into their snow snow pants too, but most Skei pants do. Um, 580 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: it's got some elastic on it, and then we'll usually 581 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: have like a clip that you can pull down and 582 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: attached to your boot lace that just kind of it's 583 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: more of a hook than a clip, and that internal 584 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: gator stays down and then you have your you know, 585 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: your pants over the top of that. The Olman actually 586 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: also has holes in the pants themselves where you're in 587 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: the cuff where it's like a groment where you could 588 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: run a string from one side to the other for 589 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: I guess extra you know, protection from keeping the pant 590 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: riding up, because that's that's gonna be the downfall and 591 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: with this system is if that little lace comes undone 592 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: and you're you know, plowing through super deep snow and 593 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: it just gets pushed up above your boot and then 594 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: again you're gonna have snow top of the boot sock area, 595 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But um, last year I 596 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: actually broke some of those internal gators because I was 597 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: wearing the Omen pants in a in a large regular 598 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: and I was putting too much stress because my legs 599 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: were too long and putting too much stress on that 600 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: boot lace clip. I broke those and pretty much once 601 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: you break that that internal gators, I don't want to 602 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: say worthless, but it went from being great to not 603 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: so not so good at all. Now that I have 604 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: the large longs, you know, I still have the freedom 605 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: of movement. It's not putting so much stress. And I 606 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: don't know of probably hunting twenty days with them off 607 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: on the snowmobile and hound hunting, nothing's broken and I 608 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: haven't had any snow getting up into my program. So 609 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you don't have to be lion 610 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: hunting or or you know, hound hunting in the in 611 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: the deep snow to to use these this way. I 612 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: think that anytime you're hunting, you know foot plus I 613 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: mean you could certainly use them in six inches of 614 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: snow to a foot plus of snow. They're gonna shine, um, 615 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: because you're probably I think the one downfall is gonna 616 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: be that they're not gonna be as quiet, you know, 617 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: as as a lot of other materials. But you know, 618 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: if I'm rifle hunting elk late season, um, I think 619 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: I can be quite enough wearing that uh Omen rain 620 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: gear that I could get to within rifle range pretty easily. 621 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, they've been been tough, you know, overall, but 622 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: I think it's it's my go to right now for 623 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: when I'm you know, out and about lion hunting. They've 624 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: got the full length side vents, so when we do 625 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: get to hiking, I can drop those zippers down off 626 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: my waist. Let a little air in there, um, because 627 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: that again is it's gonna be something you fight too. 628 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: When you're wearing a four and a half layer waterproof pant. 629 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: Is that when you start really hiking hard, it's gonna 630 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: get hot in there, so you're gonna have to vent 631 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: it out a little bit. Yeah, are you just wearing 632 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: a bass layer under that? Are you wearing pants just 633 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: a bass layer? Just that I'm glad you asked that question, 634 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: because that's a good point. Just wearing the bass layer. Um. 635 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: If yeah, and it's been great for the time if 636 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: it's a day where we don't really go out, if 637 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: it's much below zero. But if I knew that the 638 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: high was gonna be five degrees, I might wear you know, 639 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: a second bass layer or like a thin, you know, 640 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: fleece pant under there. I'm probably not gonna wear like 641 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: a full on hunting pant under there because it's just 642 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: unnecessary and like I don't need more pockets or whatever 643 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have in there. Um, I'd rather have something 644 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: that's just adding just a little bit of insulation, a 645 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: little bit of warmth. Um. But again you run into 646 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: the problem where even if the highest five degrees, once 647 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: you start hiking up some hill through deep snow, it's 648 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get hot, you know. So Um again, how 649 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: it's like not the perfect system. I haven't figured it out, 650 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: because it'd be great just have like a puffy, warm 651 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: shell you know that you're wearing over that as you're 652 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, putting around in the on the snowmobile for 653 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: hours and then when you kind of track and need 654 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: to go hike after it, you could just peel that 655 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: off and still have your you know, rank gear just 656 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: over a thin bass layer. But um, yeah, that's uh 657 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: it's been working, so I've been definitely I've been wearing 658 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: them more. Is just like my general outer pant versus uh, 659 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, using them just as a rain layer to 660 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: put on later. Yeah, I've heard of guys doing that 661 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: in a like Alaska where it's really if it's really wet, 662 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: they're like, we're not taking the rain pants off anyway, 663 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: so they'll just leave like their regular pants back so 664 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: they don't even have a chance to get wet, so 665 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: they know they have like a dry pair and then 666 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: they're bringing their rain pants with them anyway, so they'll 667 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: just put them on over base layers where them as 668 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: their pants get back, then they can take them off, 669 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: put dry pants on to hang out in or whatever. 670 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: So that's it. I think it's a good system, No, 671 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: it is. I did that on a an Alaskan doll 672 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: sheet punt with Steve when we filmed with his brother, 673 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: and it was a very wet week and I spent 674 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, I think all the time that week just 675 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: wearing a bass layer bottom and uh rain pants over 676 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: the top of that, and it was it was the 677 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: way to go nice nice, ready for the heavy hitters. 678 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, these are heavy. Um. I just got a 679 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: new I just got a new snowmobile. Um. Wasn't planning 680 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: on it. But at the end of last year, I've 681 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: been riding my two thousand six playists r M K 682 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: and I was making do it was fine. But then 683 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: we uh we we filmed a little bit off of snowmobiles, 684 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: filmed a lion hunt, and uh, because we had so 685 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: many people, we needed to rent a couple of snowmobiles, 686 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: and so we rented some new sleds and you know, 687 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: just for fun. When we had a little bit of 688 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: an open powder field, I jumped on one of the 689 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: new ones and zifted around a little bit, and I I 690 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: was just like, oh my gosh, what have what am 691 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: I missy here? Like just like you know, and it's just, 692 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, my old one was almost twenty years old. Uh. 693 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: Technology and um just improvements, I guess, and ergonomics. I 694 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: don't even know how to put it into words. But 695 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: it's all improved, it's all changed. It's way better, way easier. 696 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: And so I put one, I put a Schedoo Tundra 697 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: on snow check last spring, meaning I put a you 698 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: know deposit down so when they came in this year, um, 699 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: I was able to snag one as soon as they 700 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: got in, and man, what a game changer. Like I'm 701 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: still getting it stuck some, I'm still tipping it over some, 702 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: but not nearly as much as I was with that 703 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: old one. And my back is not like getting strained 704 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: as much from it, and um man, it's just it's nice. 705 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: Another big thing too, is at that rm K was 706 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 1: not made for putting around doing five hour going slow 707 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: looking for tracks while you're pulling a you know, eighty 708 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: pound dog and a sled behind you. Um, it's meant 709 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: for ripping up and down powder fields as fast as 710 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: you can. It's always having overheating problems and having to 711 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: constantly be you know, watching out for that. Now with 712 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: the air cooled engine, and it's just geared for more 713 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: of the utility type work that I'm doing. Um it's 714 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: uh yes, it's performing flawlessly. So um super super stoked 715 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: on on that and um yes, it's like a it's 716 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: like a real joy and I'm not scared with my 717 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: old sled. I was kind of always like, Oh, what's 718 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: gonna happen today? Did you say it was lighter too? 719 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: I saw a post read Oh, I mean, I I 720 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: don't know what that old one way, and I can't 721 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: even tell you what the new one ways. But I 722 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: know that just when I'm moving it around on the 723 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: trailer or you know, having to jostle with it a 724 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: little bit, if I've gotten it stuck, um, it's a 725 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: lot easier to to move that new one around than 726 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: that old one. Was nice. I I did an upgrade 727 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: two this year. I I used, I grew upgraded my 728 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: side by side. So I used to have a Honda 729 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: like a seven hundred right in the middle there, and 730 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: I got a Canam Defender, an HD nine and ended 731 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: up a just kind of went all out, got the 732 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: got the cab in the heater. I don't have like 733 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: I put a cab on it later with the heater. Um. 734 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: I didn't do like the limited that has air conditioning 735 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: and all that. Um. But man, it's like going from 736 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: Garrett told me that it was gonna be this way. 737 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: He's like, going from your Honda to this thing is 738 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: gonna be like going from a work truck f and 739 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: fifty to a Denali, and it's pretty much what it's like, 740 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: Like I it's just so nice and like there's a 741 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: lot of things that we I use it like a 742 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: ton um So I think I use it way more 743 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: now than I used my Honda, just because it has 744 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: a cabin heater and it's just taken like it's taking 745 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: a ton of stress off my pickup. Like I'm pretty 746 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: much if I just have one person, like I'm just 747 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: using it for guiding instead of even touching my truck 748 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: at all. Um, which is really nice to be able 749 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: to take somewhere and tear off of that and then 750 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: it's just so much faster to get around if you're 751 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: hunting in areas where it's you know, only open to 752 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: four wheelers or uh, side by sides, obviously it just 753 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: opens up your range. But man, even when we were 754 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: in Wyoming and we had a snowstorm roll in, like 755 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, we just went out, started it, like let 756 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: it warm up a bit when out and got in it. 757 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: We had a heater. We were riding around on all 758 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: the rails that we could have wrote around or just 759 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: on the regular roads, and man, people were like hanging 760 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: outside their campers like I don't know. It just it 761 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: felt like we were just hunting harder, even though advantage. 762 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I really feel like it. Like it does. 763 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: I cannot say enough good things about that. That system. Yeah, 764 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: I like I like mine too. I'm a big fan. 765 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: I think I told you I didn't have mine with 766 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: the heater in the beginning, but we put in a 767 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: We put a heater in over the summer, and um man, 768 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: what a difference. I don't think actually even use it 769 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: on a hunt, but we use ours a lot to 770 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: snowplow here at the house. And uh yeah, the heater 771 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: makes all the Yeah, I think you just like you 772 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: want to be in it because before, like I hauled 773 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: that Honda like all over the place, and uh you know, 774 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: I had like one of those soft cabs on it, 775 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: like just the doors that you can like zip yourself in, 776 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: and like that definitely makes a difference. Um but I 777 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,479 Speaker 1: hold that thing all over and if it would get 778 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: nasty cold and we were gonna if we could be 779 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: in the pickup, like that's what we would go with. 780 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't know, there was a couple 781 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: of hunts it didn't even get used just because it 782 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: was rough. Weather and it was just easier to use 783 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: the pickup and then walk than then use that thing. 784 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it's been great. Cool. That's good to hear. 785 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: Good to hear. I'm I'm excited for when you take 786 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: me on a big mega deer hunt out of that thing. 787 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: All right, that is it for today. Remember send your 788 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: questions to gear talk at the meat Eater dot com. 789 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: You can also send us ideas for gear you might 790 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: want to see for first light to uh to make. 791 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: If you have any gear critiques, I love to hear it. 792 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: It can all be there at gear talk at the 793 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: Meteor dot com. Um. Both Jordan I are on Instagram 794 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: Jordan what's your handle at Jordan dot bud and I'm 795 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: a Janice underscore ptelis Um I'm not in my d 796 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: M is a whole bunch, but I try to keep 797 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: up as much as I can. That's a great place 798 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: to send us questions and comments too. And you can 799 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: go to the meat Eater website to the podcast page 800 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: for this specific episode and if you have a comment 801 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: on this specific episode or something we talked about today, um, 802 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: you can leave it there. We're trying to get a 803 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a conversation going there and getting people involved. 804 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: So Jordan and I are both checking in there. There 805 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: hasn't been much yet so far. So um, if you're 806 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: into that kind of stuff, please go there and drops 807 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 1: a comment and uh, we're we're trying to read it all, 808 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: which I think so far we're doing a good job of. 809 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: I think we've we've read every single email and messages 810 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: come through. Yeah, any other uh D S A S 811 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: S C T A S no, nothing nothing, all right, Well, 812 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Budden and I signing off. We'll catch you in 813 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks.