1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, does did he need a diaper? 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Shawncomb's begging for an emergency bathroom break in court? And 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: tonight our authorities finally believing a man caught on tape 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: years ago claiming to be Shawn Combe's sex slave. We 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: have the tape, plus Austin Powers, Michael Jordan HBO and 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: a six pack. What does any of that have to 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: do with Shawncombe's multi count federal indictment? This as a 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: victim vanishes, I'm Nancy Grece, this is Crime Stories. Thank 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: you for being with us? 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Did he on trial? 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: Sex trafficking, racketeering and the threat of life behind bars? 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: Jury selection wraps this week in one of the biggest 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: celebrity cases of the decade. 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Shawnclme's demanding an emergency bathroom break in court to the judge. 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: Listen Sean Diddy. 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: Comb's sex trafficking trial kicks off with jury selection. Combs 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: listens intently as potential jurors are questioned after filling out 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: their written questionnaire. Mogul nods and shakes his head as 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: jurors talk about their experiences with drug addiction, sexual assault, 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: and physical violence after returning from a requested bathroom break. 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: Combs apologizes to Judge Subermanian. I'm sorry, your honor, I'm 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: a little nervous today. 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: Straight out to you. 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Veteran trial lawyer Eric Fattus joining us from Varner Fattest 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: elite legal former felony prosecutor, Eric, thank you for being 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: with us. Do you think Diddy's reman just clenched a 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: little bit when he had to ask her that emergency 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: bathroom break? Was it all just too much for him 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: when he finally came into courtroom having to answer up 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: to all the claims made against him. I've never had 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: a defendant actually leave mid jury selection for an emergency 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: bathroom break. 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, when I get really nervous, sometimes I 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 5: have to go to It's it's a common thing in 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 5: the court room. They're going to be there for hours 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: upon hours, and it is a tense situation. 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: You know. 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 5: Sometimes it's the calling of nature. Sometimes it's to get 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: a break, to get a breather from what's going on. 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 5: It's hard to say exactly did he had to do that, 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 5: but not uncommon under these circumstances he is facing, you know, 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: his fate, his future is on the line here. 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I'm sure you're not going to tell 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: me the truth. Let's go out to Robert Crispin joining 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: me Private Eye with Crispin Special Investigations, but former Federal 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Task Force for the US Department of Justice DEA Miami 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Field Division. It goes on and on. Former homicide investigator Crispin, 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: come on, hey too, want to look at that jury 49 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: panel and said I got to go, and I got 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: to go right now. 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, Nancy, the rubber has hit the road, and Diddy 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 6: is starting to learn that his faith is about to 53 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 6: be tied up in those jurors. It's a completely different 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: atmosphere inside a federal courtroom. It's not your jail cell. 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 6: It's not the laxed atmosphere sitting and laughing and talking 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 6: about your case with your lawyers. It's not reading your 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 6: case in the newspaper. It's the real deal and it's 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 6: no bs. It's going down. 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: This judge is very no nonsense. Joining me outside the courthouse. 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Lauren Colin, co host Primetime Crime on YouTube. Lauren, 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Tell me about where 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: we are in jury selection, how it's playing out in 63 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: the courtroom. 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: Tell me about the jury panel, let's. 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: Start with that. 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 7: Yes, Nancy, Well, normally, as you know, jury selection can 67 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 7: be kind of boring, but not for Sean Colmes. It's 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 7: turning out to be very colorful, colorful. 69 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 70 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: Now, on May seventh. 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 7: They were able to get their forty five full of jurors, 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 7: and they will have their strikes on Friday, May ninth, 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 7: where the defense will get ten strikes and the prosecution 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 7: will get their six strikes and then they'll narrow jurors 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 7: down to twelve and six alternates. 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: Now, as far as jurors go. 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 7: Nancy, it's been so intriguing. We have, insofar a graphic designer, 78 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 7: a former attorney who interned at the Brooklyn DIA's office 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 7: in the domestic violence unit. We also have a un 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 7: employee who actually works with counter terrorism, and somehow they 81 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 7: made it through and it actually seemed like these people 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 7: want to be here in a way, the way they're 83 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 7: downplaying certain things. Now, as far as certain potential jurors 84 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 7: who are out, we have an HBO employee who didn't 85 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 7: work directly on the fall of Ditty, but the defense 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 7: wasn't taking any chances. We have someone who said wealthy 87 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 7: people can get away with more. They can buy their 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 7: way out. 89 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: Of the law. 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 7: And we also have a woman who claimed that she 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 7: fainted when she heard the term BJ. 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: When she heard the term BJ, she feigned, Okay, yeah, 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: she's got to go. Not only that, there was one 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: guy doom scrolling who was just like looking through his phone, 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: and at least one of those scrolling adventures he took 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: popped up a Diddy article. He's out. We had one 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: guy that said he couldn't go a full day without 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: smoking weed, he's gone. We had one person that was 99 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: so tired and exhausted, stating he stayed up all night 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: binging on Star Wars. He's gone. You don't want anybody 101 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: falling asleep. Why don't you want somebody falling asleep? Because 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: that is grounds for a miss trial. If one juror 103 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: is not paying attention and missus testimony, it's over and correction. 104 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I have never found for a die or a jury 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: selection to be boring ever. In fact, that's always been 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of the trial. So what 107 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: more do we know about jury selection? 108 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: Listen, one man is dismissed because he attended Shancombs High. 109 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 8: School, albe At thirty years later, another as a producer 110 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 8: for HBO who did not work on their Didty documentary, 111 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 8: but admits to several water cooler talks with coworkers who did. 112 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 8: A marketing director at publisher Simon and Schuster is also 113 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 8: dismissed due to her work on singer L. B. Schuer's 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 8: upcoming memoir. A fourth issue that brings last for many 115 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 8: in the courtroom is a potential jurors employment at the MDC. 116 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: That HBO employee may not have worked directly on the 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: HBO documentary The Fall of Ditty, but I imagine they 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: know what was in the outtakes, what was left on 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: the editing floor, all the background. The HBO employee admits 120 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: to water cooler discussions of the documentary and of Ditty. 121 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of the HBO documentary that has the defense shaking 122 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: in its boose, listen his knots on her head. 123 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: It was horrific, he says. Sometimes you just got that 124 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: these holes know who the boss is. I've seen them 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: both holding on, fighting for my life. He said, I'm 126 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 4: puffed aady, I'll eat your face off. 127 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 9: I always believe that I was the only victim. 128 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: Wow, no wonder the defense doesn't want that HBO employee. 129 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: That's my our friends, I have an investigation discovery. Hey 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder director Lynn's Warriors, 131 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: committed to ending human trafficking and sexploitation of women and girls. 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Did you hear this, okay quote from Sean Combs. 133 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: He says, sometimes you just got. 134 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: To let these hoes know who the boss is. 135 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you know what, Sometimes a dirty Diddy. I 136 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 10: wish Nancy I could get in that courtroom and just 137 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 10: stare him down. I wish we could fill the courtroom 138 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 10: with all of his alleged victims and women and also 139 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 10: men here in New York, My fellow New Yorkers, I 140 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 10: have full confidence in them to stare him down. Remember 141 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 10: numbers power. We have to stare him down. This is 142 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 10: kind of the rallying cry I'm hearing here on the 143 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 10: streets of New York with people I know the entertainment 144 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 10: not only music business, overall entertainment business, including Broadway and television. 145 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 10: Everybody's waiting on this one. He's talking like this, he's 146 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 10: making apologies about Cassie. Dirty Diddy is going down. Nobody's 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 10: going to fall for his act anymore. 148 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to let these hoes know who 149 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: the boss is. Well, she was certainly on the other 150 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: foot now in that courtroom, and there's more no wonder 151 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: they want that HBO employee off the jury. 152 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: I am absolutely nervous sharing what I've seen. 153 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I can no longer just remain silent. 154 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: This is where I'm. 155 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: Supposed to be. Much of what we're hearing is about 156 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: the Cassie Ventira tape, and there's a lot of speculation 157 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: as to if and how that's going to come into evidence. 158 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: That was where our friends had investigation discovery. Right now, 159 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: jury selection going down, and the jury will be complete 160 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: at any minute. We believe the evidence will begin pouring 161 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: from the witness stand now. I don't think it's going 162 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: to be that easy, because it never is. Straight out 163 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: to Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Online dot Com Crime 164 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter, Sidney, thank you for being with us. 165 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: There have been many people already thrown off the jury. Now, 166 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Pettit jury a derivation of 167 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: petite or small. The Pettit jury is the jury of 168 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: twelve plus alternates, and ps I don't think six alternates 169 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: have a nut are enough in high profile cases, and 170 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: really any case I usually get between four, six to 171 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: eight alternates. I mean, look what happened is Scott Peterson. 172 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: For Pete's sake, I think they ended up using nearly 173 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: every alternate they had. That said, we're trying to get 174 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: a petit jury out of a big panel. Interesting and 175 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: this was true when I prosecuted an inner city Atlanta 176 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner. The defense has more strikes than the state. 177 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: The defense has ten strikes, which is crucial when you're 178 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: narrowing down a panel of forty five to sixty people 179 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: to just twelve. The defense has ten strikes, ten choices, 180 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: and they don't have to explain it why they throw 181 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: somebody off the jury. The state has about half that many, 182 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: at six strikes Sidney Sumner. 183 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 11: That's correct in this case, Nancy as well. The Feds 184 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 11: will only get to strike six while the defense gets ten. 185 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 11: That still leads us with twenty nine potential jurors out 186 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 11: of those forty five removing those sixteen. So from there 187 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 11: it'll be interesting to see who is removed after that. 188 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 11: But we know that a lot of these jurors are 189 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 11: having problems with the Cassie video. Everybody has seen it, 190 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 11: and everybody has formed an opinion on it. This jury 191 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 11: selection is very interesting because it's unlikely that anyone in 192 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 11: that courtroom doesn't at least have an idea of who 193 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 11: Diddy is, whether or not they're familiar with his charges. 194 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 11: So this has become a huge hurdle for everyone in 195 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 11: the courtroom to jump over. 196 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: You know, you're so right. 197 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: The Cassie video Cassie Ventura, who was testifying under her 198 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: own name. There are other alleged victims testifying under pseudonyms, 199 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: like Jane Doe, and we think tonight that one of 200 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: those victims has disappeared. The state stating in court that 201 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: they have not been able to reach the victim's lawyer. 202 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: Now it's one thing not to be able to find 203 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: the witness, but you can't find the lawyer. The lawyer 204 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: has gone deafcom for as well. That's not good for 205 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: the state. But I want to go forward with jury 206 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: selection now this as an alleged sex slave emerges. And remember, 207 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the state and the defense can amend or add to 208 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: their witness list if there are newly discovered witnesses. Will 209 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan Odie be a corroborating witness listen? 210 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 12: I had sex with Cassie and Sean basically he would 211 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 12: he would masturbate and tell him what to do with Cassie. 212 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 12: I had like fifteen encounters. 213 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 13: And I heard lots of business because what they would 214 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 13: do is Sean talks a lot on the on the 215 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 13: phone and on the TV was feeding stuff and I'll 216 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 13: be in there. I was like a sex sleeve. 217 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, gross, that is Jonathan Odie Diddy's sex slave. 218 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: And this video was years ago when he was arrested 219 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: on some other count. 220 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 4: There he is. 221 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: And again, who do you think is going to be 222 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: a witness? Nuns and priests and vergence know somebody like 223 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Jonathan Odie? Who else is hanging around? Sean comes now, 224 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: I want to play what you just heard one more time. Listen. 225 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,359 Speaker 13: I had sex. 226 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 12: With Cassie and Sean basically he would he would masturbate 227 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 12: and tell her what to do with Cassie. I had 228 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 12: like fifteen encounters and I heard lots. 229 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 13: Of business because what they would do is Sean talks 230 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 13: a lot on the on the phone and on the 231 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 13: TV with feeding up and I'll be in there. 232 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 5: I was like a SI. 233 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: Sleep Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 234 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: For now and it'sycho analyst doctor Bethany Marshall joining us 235 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: out of la, author of deal Breakers. You can see 236 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: her now on peacock at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. 237 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, let's break this down. When you were taking English, 238 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: did the teacher ever separate the sentence on the blackboard 239 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: and you know, diagram the sentence. Here's the verb, Here 240 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: is the adverb, here is the adjective, here's the subject. 241 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah, okay. 242 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: I had sex with Cassie and Sean. Basically, hey, Sean 243 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: would masturbate and tell me what to do with Cassie. 244 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: No wonder she's running down the hall trying to get away. 245 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: I have like fifteen encounters. I heard a lot of 246 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: business because Sean would talk on the phone with it 247 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: on the TV with speakers while I was being quote 248 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: like a sex slave. 249 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: Help me out, doctor Bethany. 250 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 9: You know, it reminds me of a clinical case of 251 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 9: a colleague where there was this sociopath sex offender who 252 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 9: would put his wife in the bathroom, defecate on her, 253 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 9: tell her to stay lying on the floor while he 254 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 9: went out and dated other women. And that clinical case 255 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 9: is important because It takes us inside the mind of 256 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 9: an alleged offender, and in this case P Diddy is 257 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 9: doing business, puffing himself up, putting himself in a position 258 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 9: of power while he debases Cassie. Those are very, very 259 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 9: common psychodynamics in a case like this. You know, Nancy, 260 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 9: that explosive need to go. 261 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: To the bathroom. 262 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 9: That tells me that he went into fight or flight, 263 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 9: meaning he had a sudden need to evacuate his bowels. 264 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 9: That means he was scared. I wondered, is this the 265 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 9: first time in his life? P Diddy is actually scared. 266 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 9: We juxtaposed that to having this sex slave. You know, 267 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 9: these defendants tend to they thrive when they're in positions 268 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 9: of power. They fall apart when they have to answer 269 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 9: for their offenses. Remember Michael Jackson where he got the 270 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 9: spider bit and he came to court with his slippers 271 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 9: and his pajama pajamas. He really fell apart under pressure. 272 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 12: I had settlement with Sean Okay, and he belongs to 273 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 12: that agenda. That's why he's so famous in animal contracts. 274 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 13: This season twoes my settlement put me in a box. 275 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 12: Based on I couldn't talk gozalas Will be sued, so 276 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 12: I let it be. But they've been following me and 277 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 12: they've had small charcas, had the FBI on me. That said, 278 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 12: other interpret other agencies looking at me fine on the 279 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 12: og because they want to send me up as an 280 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 12: extortioness like if O story sharp on one now. 281 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: At the time when Odie was saying all of this 282 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen on tape, everyone discounted it Shawn 283 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Combs sex slave, making Odie participate in for sex acts 284 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: with Cassie Ventura. 285 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: Somehow Mark Garraghos gets in the mix. 286 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: You hear Odi stating very plainly that he had a 287 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: quote settlement with Sean Combs that if he talked about 288 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: what happened with Cassie and comes, he would be sued. 289 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: It's called an. 290 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: NDA non disclosure agreement, and that Mark Geragos was on 291 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: to him. Now suddenly it's all fitting together. Sidney Sumner 292 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: explain why this suddenly may corroborate what the current state's 293 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: witnesses are saying. 294 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 11: So, Nancy, we've known about John than Odie's claims since 295 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 11: the beginning of this case. Since all of this information 296 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 11: about Diddy's sexual deviance and raping behavior came to the 297 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 11: public eye with Caffy's lawsuit. But yes, this happened back 298 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 11: in twenty eighteen, and this police interrogation is full of 299 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 11: odd conspiracy theories. The Illuminati gets brought up several times, 300 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 11: so it didn't really feel like Odie's claims were very credible. 301 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 11: But now we have a photo of that NBA that 302 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 11: he claims that he signed, so we now have proof 303 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 11: that that document that he references in that interrogation does 304 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 11: in fact exist. So it seems like Odie had some 305 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 11: kind of secret about Combs that he thought was so 306 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 11: important that he paid this former Horn star five million 307 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 11: dollars for his silence. 308 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: You know, City Center. 309 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: Every time I ask you a question, it's like opening 310 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: out one of those mystery boxes or a grab bag. 311 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: I get so much more than I expected. Did you 312 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: just say, Odie, Odie, the guy we were just watching 313 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: in the hospital gown talking about being a sex life, 314 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: got a five million dollar settlement from yeah, him, from 315 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: Combs and as a matter of fact, putting down eight 316 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on a home. 317 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 11: Yes, so that information is coming from Odie's ex wife. 318 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 11: So she claimed that he met Combs at a party 319 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 11: at his Miami Star Island home, and they struck some 320 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 11: sort of relationship which actually strained their marriage and led 321 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 11: to their divorce. Now immediately herfter that divorce, Odie, who 322 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 11: had claimed that his net worth was in the negatives 323 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 11: at the time of their divorce, suddenly purchases a ton 324 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 11: of property eight hundred thousand dollars worth and it wasn't mortgaged. 325 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 11: It was all in cash. So she has no idea 326 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 11: where he came up with that money. And believe maybe 327 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 11: he's telling the truth. Maybe he did at five million 328 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 11: dollars from Sean Coms. 329 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: And of course Mark Giragos is an incredible lawyer, about 330 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: as usual. He's into it up to here, he's up 331 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: to his Let me just say ears and alligators, because 332 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: you see Odie is talking about Giragos way back when 333 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and now Giaghos is in the crosshairs 334 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: of the judge. 335 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: Listen prosecutor's point to one of Garogos's comments, in particular 336 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: calling their team a six pack of white women. Judge 337 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: Supermanian was shocked by the quip, calling it outrageous. Garrogos's 338 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: daughter Tenny pushback, saying her father merely made an observation 339 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: considering her client feels targeted for his race. The judge 340 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: said the comments would not be tolerated in any court 341 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: from any lawyer all across the nation. 342 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: Subermanian is not putting up with that technical legal term. 343 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: B s straight out to Lauren Collin joining us at 344 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: the courthouse. What did Geragos do now? 345 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 7: Well, Nancy Georgos on his podcast stated that the prosecution 346 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 7: was a six pack of white women. Now that's definitely 347 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 7: a prejudicial statement. The prosecution submitted this letter to the judge, 348 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 7: as you said, and Geragos is technically not an advisor 349 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 7: to the defense. He does represent Diddy's mother from what 350 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 7: I understand, but he knows better than this, and as 351 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 7: you said, he's an amazing lawyer, so he needs to 352 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 7: step back a bit. 353 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: Okay. 354 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: Another issue though, right there, Eric Fattis, is Geragos is 355 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: claiming that he's not on the legal team officially. Okay, 356 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: See the judge Subramanian doesn't like that, And I'll tell 357 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: you why. Neither's a state it's not. I guess Gearaghos 358 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: is just that if you're not on officially on the 359 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: defense team, you are not subject to the orders of 360 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: the directors of the judge. Because you're not on the 361 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: defense team, you can say and do anything you want to. 362 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Even with Harvey Levin on TMZ on that podcast, I 363 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: was just showing you the Two Angry Men podcasts. He 364 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: can say whatever he wants to because he's not on 365 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: the team. 366 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: That's why. You know what it's like being a little pregnant. 367 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: That's not possible, right, So is he on the team 368 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: or is he not on the team. That's the issue 369 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: with Garygos right now? 370 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Nancy, And you know, on top of that, Garrigos 371 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 5: has a First Amendment right. He can say what he wants. 372 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 5: And this isn't the first time an alleged racial bias 373 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 5: has been brought up by the defense. They talked about 374 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 5: did he being prosecuted under what's called the Man Act, 375 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: which infamously was used to prosecute black boxer Jack Johnson 376 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 5: in nineteen thirteen for having romantic relations with a white woman. 377 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: And so fast, as fast as you're digging really deep, 378 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: if you're going back to a case in nineteen thirteen, 379 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: can I just drag you up to twenty twenty five 380 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: and address what's happening in court right now? 381 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 5: I hear you, and my understanding is that Gargos has 382 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 5: a relative or a daughter who might be associated with 383 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: the case who's a lawyer. But yeah, so Garrigos is 384 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: kind of like is he or isn't he in terms 385 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: of being involved in the case, And if he's not 386 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: technically an attorney of record, then who cares what the 387 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 5: judge says? He can kind of say what he wants. 388 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: Sean Diddy. Combe's defense lawyers insist he isn't a rapist 389 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: but a swinger. Attorney Mark Agnefilo tells the court Comb 390 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 2: simply engaged in a swinger lifestyle, seeing nothing wrong with 391 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: his behavior. 392 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 14: As potential jurors are questioned about their ability to maintain impartiality, 393 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 14: an obstacle quickly rears its head the video of Comb's 394 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 14: attacking Cassie. Numerous potential jurors have seen the video and 395 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 14: formed opinions on it. Of those who have watched it, 396 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 14: only a few were able to say they did not 397 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 14: think it would affect their impartiality. 398 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: While some who have seen the Cassie video are allowed 399 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: to stay, several jurors are dismissed for the opinions they 400 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: formed from it. One juror called the video damning evidence, 401 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: while another said it would be hard to get new 402 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: evidence against the video. Another juror was dismissed for his 403 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: belief the rap mogul could quote by his way out 404 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: of jail. 405 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people. 406 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch CNN or any major news 407 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: outlet which has followed up with CNN's video, you've seen 408 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the Cassie video. What's so disturbing. 409 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: Let's take a look. 410 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: Here comes Cassie and this from our friends at CNN, 411 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: trying to get away according to reports, from a freakoff. 412 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 4: Uh, oh, not so fast, Cassie. 413 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: Now, according to coms, this is all part of his 414 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: quote voluntary swow swinger lifestyle. Ooh, stomping off with all 415 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Cassie stuff. Oh, she will have to go back to 416 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: the freak off. Oh it's not over yet. Here he's 417 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: having a little fit. Oh there goes a two thousand 418 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: dollars base. This is the video we're talking about. Joining 419 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: us at the courthouse, Lauren Colin. Some jurors are having 420 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: a hard time with the Cassie video, and some of 421 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: them have already been released from the jury pool. 422 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: Explain, Yes, some jurors who saw the video and said 423 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 7: things like, well, he's guilty of domestic abuse in that video. 424 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 7: They were immediately dismissed. But Nancy, I want to point 425 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 7: out that the defence also had an expert testify a 426 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 7: few weeks back during the pre trial hearings that that 427 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 7: video was actually sped up. 428 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: Don't care because it can be unsped up for the jury. 429 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: But thank you for pointing out that argument by the 430 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: defensive that's all they've got. Okay, they're up, you know, 431 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: the create without a paddle. But that said, we've heard 432 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: a lot of conflicting statements to Sidney Sumner following up 433 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: on what Lauren. 434 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: Collin said, She's absolutely right. 435 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: By the way, again I called her being right again, 436 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner, there have been reports to states not introducing 437 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: the Cassie video. I find that hard to believe. I 438 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: think they're not introducing the CNN version, but that they 439 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: will introduce the video in full or portions thereof. 440 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 11: What about it, Sidney, Yes, Nancy, we've heard conflicting reports 441 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 11: on this. So before we already knew that the prosecution 442 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 11: was not planning to introduce the CNN version of the video. 443 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 11: That is correct. They were going to play back a 444 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 11: ver that was recorded on an iPhone, So maybe maybe 445 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 11: this is how CNN obtained the recording in the first place. 446 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 11: So you're seeing it play back on a computer screen 447 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 11: and somebody is recording that video on an iPhone, so 448 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 11: it's very clear that it's not edited in any way, 449 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 11: shape or form. All of the potential jurors, many of 450 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 11: them at least, mentioned that they had seen the CNN 451 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 11: Kassie video, and prosecutors went, well, whoa, whoa, we're no 452 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 11: longer planning to introduce this as evidence at all. So 453 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 11: the opinions they forged based on that video shouldn't matter, 454 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 11: And of course the judge kind of wrote it down, like, 455 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 11: h I think it's still as important if they've formed 456 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 11: an opinion on who cones is exactly on this video. 457 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Sydney, You're right still up in 458 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: the air. Will the video come in? Will the video 459 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: not come in? But even if that video doesn't come in, 460 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: what about this videos. 461 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 9: So difficult to refloat on the darkest times in your life. 462 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 15: Sometimes you got to do that. 463 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 12: I was, I mean, I had rock bottom. 464 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: But I made no excuses. 465 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. 466 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 12: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video. 467 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: I'm disgusted, right right right. 468 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: That's from Diddy's official Instagram. So Robert Crispin, if he 469 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: didn't do it, if it was all consensual and Cassie's 470 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: fine with it, why is he apologizing for it. 471 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 6: Because he knows he's guilty in his online I think 472 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 6: he knows it and. 473 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: I like it because it's succinct or it was succinct, 474 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: but you kept talking to Eric Fattis. 475 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: Here's another thing. 476 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: Even if the state to avoid an evidentiary problem on appeal, 477 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: don't make me go into the in depth explanation of that. 478 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: If they don't bring it in in their case, here's 479 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: a way to get it in. Because you know somebody's 480 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: going to take the stand and say that was all consensual, 481 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: Cassie loved being with Cobs. Then they'll bring it in 482 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: to cross examine a witness or in a state's rebuttal case. 483 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: There's many ways to get this video in. 484 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 5: Since could surely open the door to this video coming in, 485 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 5: and that would be a huge misstep. Another big misstep 486 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 5: is the prosecutor's office making a huge deal about this 487 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 5: video in the months leading up to the case, and 488 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: now if they're not going to show it, they have 489 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: effectively assassinated Toy's character and got into the minds of 490 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: these potential jerks. 491 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: What what, Hey, the state didn't do that to him, 492 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: He did it to himself, Saint Lynn Shaw. 493 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: That's exactly what I'm talking about. 494 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: Comb's claiming the state has assassinated his character by CNN 495 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: releasing the video. Okay, a, the CNN did that, not 496 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: the state. Diddy did that to himself. But yet we're hearing, oh, 497 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: the state, the powerful, evil state, they did this to Diddy. 498 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: He asked, He's the one on the video, not the prosecutor, 499 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: running down. 500 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 4: The hall on a towel. 501 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 10: This video of Cassie running away in her bare feet. Everybody, 502 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 10: do you notice she has no shoes on. If you 503 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 10: look at that video, so many women report to me 504 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 10: and girls that's how they escape. They don't put shoes on. 505 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 10: They run away barefoot down New York streets. I've heard 506 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 10: highways barefoot. This is in no way you know this Diddy, 507 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 10: this dirty Diddy. He flips the story. What you know what, 508 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 10: he's blaming everybody else. We have seen this for months now. 509 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 10: He is guilty, and I maintain this video. Everybody's heard 510 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 10: about it. If you haven't seen it, everybody knows about it. 511 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 10: It's very here in New York, all over the place. 512 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 10: So you know what that is his downfall? Kicking a 513 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 10: woman repeatedly dragging her. You know what he's going down. 514 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 10: He I guarantee when we come back after all this, 515 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 10: you will see he crossed the wrong person. He's eating 516 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 10: a woman on a camera. I don't know where the 517 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 10: hotel was. I guess they got paid off. Why they 518 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 10: didn't report him to the police. But Dirty Diddy. 519 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: Is going down. 520 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: Jurors are also asked to review a nearly two hundred 521 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: person list of names that may come up in the trial. 522 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: Judge supermaney and likens the list to an appendix from 523 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: The Lord of the Rings. The judge asks the attorneys 524 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: to provide the list when jurors complete their questionnaire. As 525 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: they spend time listening to numerous jurors verbally explain why 526 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: they recognize famous names like Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West, 527 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: Kid Cuddy, and even Mike Myers. 528 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: What does Michael Myers aka Austin Powers have to do 529 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: with Sean Comes's multi count federal indictment. I think we 530 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: figured it out, you know, doctor Evil. 531 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: I used to think you were crazy, I know, but 532 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: now I can see you nuts. 533 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: I thank you from the ninety movie Austin Powers, the 534 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: International Man of Mystery. That's all we can piece together 535 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: so far. But then you've got Michael B. Jordan, Kanye 536 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: Oma Stars to Sydney Summer. I think we figured out 537 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: why Kid Cutty may be on the list where the 538 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: jurors are asked, do you know any of these people? 539 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: And Kid Cutty, Kanye Mayers, Jordan and many others are 540 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: on the list. I think I know about Kid Cutty, 541 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: explain Sid. 542 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 6: So. 543 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 11: After one of many Passy and Comb's breakups, Cassy started 544 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 11: seeing Kid Cutty, and just a few months later, his 545 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 11: car mysteriously exploded outside of his house. Passy attributes that 546 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 11: to her ex boyfriend. 547 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: So that tells me he may come in as a witness, 548 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: maybe to corroborate claims that this wasn't just forced sex 549 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: or who were sex acts at the free co offs, 550 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: but that violence became an integral, a critical part of 551 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: the scenario. And we were hearing doctor Bethany Marshall describe 552 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: that guys I'm hearing in my ear. We are now 553 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: being joined by special guest, doctor Dwayne Hendricks. Doctor Hendrix, 554 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: former Associate warden at MDC in Brooklyn, where comes as 555 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: being held, former Senior warden with US Department Justice, Federal 556 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: Bureau of Prisons. He is the author of who Are 557 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: You See It? 558 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 4: Say It? 559 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Seize It, and is president of a new Daylight Foundation. 560 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: Doctor Hendrix, thank you for being with us. A lot 561 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: of people do not understand the mechanics, all the hoops 562 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: you have to get through to even get Sean comes 563 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: to the courthouse. Even at the Fulton County Courthouse or 564 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: the city jail, inmates would have to be up sometimes 565 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the morning for safety precautions, getting 566 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: them fed, getting them into their court clothes, out of 567 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: their jumpers, hustling him them sometimes in triple shackle into 568 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: a van or a bus. Got to lock it all 569 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: down so the inmates can't attack each other on the bus. 570 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 4: I've had one star witness attack. 571 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: By the defendant the edge that sent them over on 572 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: the same bus with a pin that he had stuck 573 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: down his pants where he got a pen from me 574 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: from the defense lawyer had stuck the pin down his 575 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: pants and stabbed my witness the morning of trial, I 576 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: put him on the stand anyway with the stab wound. 577 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: That said Doctor Hendrix explain what an inmate light comes 578 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: has to go through and what the state has to 579 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: go through to even get comes there. 580 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, Nancy. 581 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 15: The marshalls will send over lists on a daily basis, 582 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 15: and then this staff will start preparing for the next 583 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 15: trial movement for the next day. And after the five 584 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 15: o'clock count clears in the morning, the officers will get 585 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 15: those inmates up, get them down to R and D. 586 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 15: They'll give them a box breakfast like a Continental breakfast 587 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 15: down in the holding area, and then they'll be out 588 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 15: processing with the rest of the offenders. And one of 589 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 15: the critical things I know you mentioned you know one 590 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 15: of your witnesses got stabbed. One of the key functions 591 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 15: for staff is to make sure that anybody who's caught, 592 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 15: you know their separateees. They make sure that they're not 593 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 15: in the same holding cells prior to them leaving the facility, 594 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 15: and the marshals do move inmates on the same bus 595 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 15: sometimes or in the same band inmates that may be 596 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 15: or may not be testifying against each other, but they 597 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 15: try to keep them separated as much as possible, but 598 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 15: we don't have to worry about that in this particular case. 599 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 15: So when Diddy gets over to the courthouse, he'll be 600 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 15: putting the holding cell until he's ready to go up 601 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 15: to the floor where his trial is being held. He'll 602 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 15: be put in his court closed and then he'll be 603 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 15: moved up to the courthouse to the courtroom where the 604 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 15: travel what he'll be having his processes done, and then 605 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 15: we do everything in reverse in the evening. They normally 606 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 15: bring the inmates back about five or six o'clock in 607 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 15: the evening, and he'll go back through that same booking process, 608 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 15: being visually searched and that kind of thing. And also, 609 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 15: especially with this being a high profile case, a lot 610 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 15: of times he won't go through some of the other 611 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 15: intake processes as a health screening, but they'll definitely be 612 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 15: looking and monitoring his mental health for any suicidal audiation, 613 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 15: especially as this trial goes on and some of the 614 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 15: testimony comes out, and they'll be monitoring that on a 615 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 15: day to day basis. But that's typically the process for 616 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 15: individuals when they're going from the. 617 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Jail, Doctor Hendrix, we're talking about the NBC and you're 618 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: telling me that the inmates are carefully evaluated for suicidal ideation. 619 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: And one word to you, Epstein, you really think MDC 620 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: is all on it when it's evaluating the health crisis 621 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: of inmates. Yeah, just you know. 622 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: Just hold that thought. 623 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: So, doctor Henry's are you telling me that MDC is 624 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: putting Combs and one of those big buses it's an 625 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: old school bus like painted white that says see I 626 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: Correctional Institute on the size No, with a lot of 627 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: other inmates, because I find that really hard to believe. 628 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 15: That's the typical process. But he is in the East 629 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 15: building over at MDC, which houses less inmates than the 630 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 15: West building, as we're seeing in this shop right here, 631 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 15: So he's probably put in a van. He may not 632 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 15: even have no more than three or four other inmates 633 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 15: handing the court, depending on what the docket is for 634 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 15: that particular day. So he's probably not on a big 635 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 15: van because he's going over to Manhattan Brooklyn and it 636 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 15: just depends on how many offenders that have court that 637 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 15: that particular day. But I would under. 638 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: Dwane Hendrix, You've been trying to tell me all along 639 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: that Combs is not getting any special treatment. But I 640 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: guarantee you he's not on the old school bus with 641 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: all the other inmates. He's probably getting ridden over in 642 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: what a limo. 643 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 15: No, if anything, it'll be a police car or some 644 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 15: unmarked police a US Marshall vehicle, but it's more than 645 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 15: likely a van, and it will probably have one or 646 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 15: two other offenders in there, and they're probably in the 647 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 15: same housing unit that he's living in. 648 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 5: Over there. 649 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 6: Fort North. 650 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 4: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 651 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 8: Non jury consultant Lisa Marino has also joined Comb's ranks. 652 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 8: Moreno is best known for helping shape the jury that 653 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 8: acquitted to me All, the Florida College professor accused of 654 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 8: conspiring to provide services to the terrorist group the Palestinian 655 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 8: Islamic John Moreno will spend the next two days digging 656 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 8: into jurors backgrounds to determine who the defense will challenge 657 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 8: and who they will fight to. 658 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: Keep on Wow okay, high profile jury consultant brought in 659 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: on Shawn Combs's team as they try to determine who 660 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: will be a witness, who will be a character witness, 661 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: who will be kept out? Speaking of celebs in court 662 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: like Austin Powers aka Michael Myers and others. Here's one guy. 663 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: I guarantee you the defense does not want to show up. 664 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: I spent like all the money for a commercial on 665 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: these new teeth. 666 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: Once again. I had to shoot it on the iPhone. 667 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 16: Go to easy dot com. 668 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: That from the official Easy page. Sidney just briefly, how 669 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: much did Kanye pay for whatever he's got in place 670 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: of his teeth? 671 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 11: Nancy? I believe he paid over eight hundred thousand dollars 672 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 11: for that new set of teeth. 673 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: They are titanium. 674 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining. 675 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: Us out of LA. 676 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: What do you think the defense is going to do 677 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: when Kanye shows up in the courtroom? Did you see 678 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: that dental video of him drooling with about a million 679 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: dollars worth of titanium in his mouth? That it came 680 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: up during jury selection. Kanye's name came up in jury selection, 681 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: which I'm going to. 682 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 4: Go to Comlin on. 683 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: But you know, no way do they want him in 684 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: the courtroom. 685 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, first of all, he should have a diamond 686 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 16: grill for how much he's spent on his teeth, the 687 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 16: most somebody has ever spent on their veneers or teeth 688 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 16: that's come into my Beverly Hills office is seventy five 689 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 16: thousand dollars, So he got ripped off. 690 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 9: Secondly, you know, he's so lay, viol and unpredictable. One 691 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 9: day he loves Diddy, the next day he hates Diddy. 692 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 9: You know, I think it's just he's just a very 693 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 9: precarious person to have in the courtroom. 694 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: But his name actually came up in v Dayer which 695 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: Cohen's delay is French for to speak the truth, another 696 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: name for jury selection. Lauren Collin joining us at the courthouse. 697 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: From the beginning of Lauren, what what did did he 698 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: have to do with Kanye? In jury selection? 699 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 7: Kanye Is name was one of the many celebrity names 700 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 7: that was brought up during the VUA Deer and Kanye 701 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 7: and Diddy had this now infamous p phone call while 702 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 7: Diddy was an MDC back in March, where Diddy said 703 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 7: thinged like they're out to get us, and then Kanye 704 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 7: after alleged that he has been giving Diddy money and 705 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 7: he has been giving Ditty's children money. Also, Nancy, I 706 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 7: want to point out that Mike Myers and Kanye West 707 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 7: actually did this charity telethon back in the early two 708 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 7: thousands after Hurricane Katrina. So maybe Mike Myers could speak 709 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 7: to the character of Ditty through Kanye. That was the 710 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 7: thought I had, just speculating. 711 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: Hey, it'll be cold day in Hades before anybody brings 712 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: on good character in this case if they can find 713 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: such a witness for the defense, because once they do that, 714 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: that opens the door for the state to bring on 715 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: bad character. In other words, all of the other sixty 716 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: plus similar transactions as demonstrated in civil lawsuits against Sean Combs. 717 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: Here's a big problem, Sidney Sumner. We understand that victim 718 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: number three is in the wind that the state can't 719 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: find her or her lawyer, Sydney. 720 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 4: That's the problem. We predicted this was going to happen. 721 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: Did Ditty's team get to her and now she's not 722 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: going to testify. 723 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 11: It's quite possible, Nancy. We know that Combs was using 724 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 11: other inmates jail phone numbers to make calls to potential witnesses, 725 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 11: so this would not be behavior that is not reported 726 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 11: for him. And we know that that third witness actually 727 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 11: intended to use her real name in court, so propecutor 728 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 11: set up a pseudony one for her and she decided, no, 729 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 11: I want to use my real name. So now that 730 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 11: she's backed out entirely, it's a very huge. 731 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 4: Red flag, big red flag. 732 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: Why now, on the eve of trial, when the evidence 733 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: is about to pour from the witness stand, does one 734 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: of the state's witnesses disappear, vanish in the wind? We 735 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: wait as evidence commences in the courtroom, and now we 736 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: remember an American hero, Deputy shaff Brian Mahaffey, Rockdale, Sheriff's Georgia, 737 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: shot and killed in the line of duty, survived by 738 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: wife turned widow, Diana, children Trenton and Anniston. American hero 739 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: Deputy Shriff Brian Mahaffey Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend 740 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 15: At