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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance. Today,

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Speaker 1: we are at Loophold did a little factory tour. We're

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Speaker 1: here with Bruce the CEO of Loophold, Tim Lester, the

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Speaker 1: VP of product in Marketing, my good buddy Dirk Durham,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about some new product launches, what's

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Speaker 1: in the future for Loophold, kind of what your guys'

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Speaker 1: focus is, and some stuff for everybody to get excited

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Speaker 1: about to hit the market. So, yeah, I got to

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Speaker 1: hunt with Bruce this year, a little trip to Utah.

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Speaker 1: Good buddy, Luke Combs and Bruce and we had a

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Speaker 1: great time. Everybody killed killed good bowls. And yeah, did

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Speaker 1: you get to use any of the new stuff on

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Speaker 1: that hunt? Were you testing it before I had it?

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Speaker 2: I had a version of the b X six, So

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Speaker 2: it's it's incredible, And you know you gotta first of all,

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Speaker 2: before we start, I just want to say thanks for

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Speaker 2: your partnership and what you guys have done, because you know,

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Speaker 2: it's been a long term and it's been a great

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Speaker 2: partnership and watched you really build the company and all

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Speaker 2: the things that you've done. So congrats on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And likewise, like thanks for believing in us and

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Speaker 1: allowing us a chance to help you guys out. So

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been awesome. And it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: in my backyard, close to home and really enjoyed everything

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Speaker 1: we used. And a little backstory like growing up, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna lie, there were some other scopes

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Speaker 1: on the cheap rifles, but when you know, Grandpa and

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Speaker 1: Dad all got loopholds on them back in the day,

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Speaker 1: and it was like that right of pass. It's like,

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Speaker 1: once you're good enough hunter, you'll buy your own VX,

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Speaker 1: you know, the old school VX twos and threes and

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Speaker 1: so like to be able to work with you guys

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Speaker 1: like not to kick it too far back, is like, wow,

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Speaker 1: we're here and get a chance to work with you

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Speaker 1: guys in the industry, and it's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's been.

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Speaker 3: It's been the same for us.

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Speaker 2: It's cool when you get you know, I talk about

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Speaker 2: our pro team a lot that we just have we

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Speaker 2: don't you know, it's not like we recruit or anything.

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Speaker 2: It's just we end up with people that are kind

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Speaker 2: of like us. You know, we're all kind of like

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Speaker 2: minded and passionate about the outdoors and the stuff we

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Speaker 2: do and it just works out and this is one

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Speaker 2: of the best partnerships.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But so yeah, that that utahunt was great. Luke

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Speaker 1: got his first bowl ever and I think all three

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Speaker 1: of us ended up killing very quality bowls and it

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Speaker 1: was just it was a good a good week together

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Speaker 1: and uh and had a blast. And then Tim it

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's the luckiest tag drawer in the in

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Speaker 1: the company.

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Speaker 3: I've been on a good streak. I think I've used

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Speaker 3: up the entire lifetime before before three years ago and

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Speaker 3: from here going forward.

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Speaker 1: He knows why everyone's pissed at it.

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Speaker 3: He drank draw again. That's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big orange sheep tags, ELK tags.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the think about Tim when he draws, he actually

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Speaker 2: makes it happen too, So that's the good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So we've already kind of touched on that b

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Speaker 1: X six. Let's uh, let's get right into it, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the why on the b X six. You know,

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Speaker 1: how long has it been in development? What kicked off

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Speaker 1: the idea? I know, I hunted what was it twenty nineteen, Dirk.

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Speaker 1: We hunted with Michael when he was testing the optical

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Speaker 1: But give us a little history of that b XX development.

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Speaker 1: What's the why why it needed to be in that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean the why is we needed hands

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Speaker 3: down the best range finding binocultar on the market period.

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Speaker 3: And really, what you're trying to do there is accomplish

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Speaker 3: a binocultar your primary glassing optic that is unaffected by

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Speaker 3: having that rangefinder in it, and that's really hard to do,

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Speaker 3: and candidly, the display technology wasn't there so you know,

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Speaker 3: until recently, so you would have some degradation on those

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Speaker 3: you're going to sit there in glass all day, and

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Speaker 3: for this to be a professional quality piece of gear,

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Speaker 3: you need to be able to glass all day, ten

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Speaker 3: The why is there are users that need that that

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Speaker 3: have that use case they're going to sit in glass

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Speaker 3: all day on the hunting side. On the shooting side,

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Speaker 3: you look at things like an NL hunter match or

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Speaker 3: targets are hidden, ye, now you need to be able

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Speaker 3: to find that target, range it, get full ballistics engage

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Speaker 3: without missing all of that on the clock, and move forward.

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Speaker 3: And so both of those are really pro level user

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Speaker 3: requirements and we set this up for both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know, like my my function in the

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Speaker 1: to my ballistic app like that was so awesome. On

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Speaker 1: the Two Hunts site, you know my Montana antelope for

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Speaker 1: deer tags. And then to use that in New Mexico,

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Speaker 1: like it was so nice, just one click of the button,

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Speaker 1: that solution was awesome. So when you guys go to

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Speaker 1: develop it, like was there a top priority or was

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Speaker 1: like there multiple like glass quality range finding shooter solution

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Speaker 1: like or did all those boxes did you checked on

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Speaker 3: Did you look at my notes in order that you

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Speaker 3: kind of nailed that right, So optics needed to be

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Speaker 3: do that through great displays and managing that light all

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Speaker 3: the way through. That had to be step one. Then

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Speaker 3: best ranging, so we needed to be lightning, fast, seamless,

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Speaker 3: all those things, and then ultimately getting ballistics, whether it's

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Speaker 3: again seamless and easy on board, and then adding in

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Speaker 3: pinning of course, being able to use this as a

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Speaker 3: wavefinder as well, So drop a waypoint exactly where you're

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Speaker 3: looking that really brings everything together, where this is a

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Speaker 3: this is something that really up levels your capability.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought, like the one solution

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Speaker 1: for great glass ranging, ballistic solution pinning, Like it's all

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Speaker 1: you know, a separate rangefinder that did in the past.

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Speaker 1: You know it was it checked all those boxes for

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Speaker 1: sit behind it all day, no I fatigue, clear edge

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Speaker 1: to edge, ballistic solutions I could trust. Now. It took

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Speaker 1: I wasn't applied ballistics guy I've used Hornity's app before

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Speaker 1: my muzzleloader, you know, I had. I had a ballistic

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Speaker 1: solution for my forty five outcast. I had a bullistic

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Speaker 1: solution for my three hundred PIRC and not only on

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Speaker 1: least through those two weapons that like this is act

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Speaker 1: you know, accurate, you know, no longer you know, uploading

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Speaker 1: button so that it it takes a barometer, like it's

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Speaker 1: all in the binocay. The only thing you have to

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Speaker 1: the only thing that doesn't calculate for you is like

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Speaker 3: And it was, yeah, just doesn't know the wind speed.

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Speaker 3: From from a nice easy CDs type solution to a

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Speaker 3: the Hornity fod off, which is the best ballistics calculator

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Speaker 3: Just give me the yardage compensate for that, and I'm

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of thought that went into this and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my biggest frustration. You know, I live at

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Speaker 1: it would be nice to just like let the range

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Speaker 1: it sounds like it was a long, a long process,

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Speaker 1: but it's because you guys wanted to get this right, Like,

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Speaker 1: were there challenges, you know, glass quality. Was there challenges

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there were lots of I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: knew how many times that Tim and I have I

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Speaker 2: have heard when are you coming out with your and

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Speaker 2: find a binocular over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: I would be fifty, when are we going to get

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Speaker 2: And you can put about three zeros behind that for

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Speaker 2: all the people, you know, it's been I think for us,

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Speaker 2: this one was one of the hardest projects we worked

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Speaker 2: have one hoop to go through, which is the ruggedness

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Speaker 2: that people expect out of a loophole. That's just part

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Speaker 3: all of those things and then still give a chamber

435
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 3: in there that allows access to these sensors. That was

436
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 3: a bit of a challenge and one of the things

437
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 3: that we absolutely had to get right. We did, and

438
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 3: with all of that on board, the amount of time

439
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 3: it takes you to bring it out range do everything

440
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 3: that you would need to do. There's day animals, it

441
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 3: will be it will have recalibrated and so it'll be

442
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 3: the actual outside air temperature, not your binylight temperature. Right.

443
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,679
Speaker 3: If there's any doubt to that, you can very quickly

444
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 3: with the app. You can get in there and say, look,

445
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm a sweaty guy, right, yeah, yeah, it is what

446
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 3: it is. And you can say I want you to

447
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 3: use the most current local weather station. Off of the app.

448
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 3: We can there's ways to set this up to your preference.

449
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 3: All of it very simple. Again, in the background, it's

450
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 3: set up for the most effective way for most people,

451
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 3: and then you can go in and tune it. Having

452
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: those sensors on board are massive so that you're not like, oh,

453
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: wait a minute, warmed up, Now I need to readjust

454
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 3: now it cooled down. Okay, Now there's a there's a

455
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 3: cold front coming in, or there's a pressure system coming in.

456
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 3: It's just all live, real time on board. So you

457
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 3: just essentially say the wind is coming from here at

458
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 3: this speed, this and I'm going to shoot. We just

459
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 3: want you to focus on punching that tag.

460
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: My old solution was like, try to pick an average elevation,

461
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 1: an average temperature, you think, an average humidity, and then

462
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: hope that when you run into an animal and things

463
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: get in the heat of the moment, you don't have

464
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: to change or it doesn't you know, we're you know

465
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 1: this year carrying it like you know, got my puffy

466
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,239
Speaker 1: on over it, trying to keep it warm. But then

467
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, so I was able to just

468
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 1: go in and use it over I like, I don't

469
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: know if this is in the transition like quickly going

470
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: from seventy to thirty two. I know it's frozen outside.

471
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: Override thirty two and you used to override that temperature

472
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: because I didn't you know, it's not that I didn't

473
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 1: trust it, but I don't know how quickly that's like

474
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: ramping back down to thirty two. So it's like easy

475
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: confident for me that all right, at least grab the

476
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: elevation and the barometric pressure temperature. I don't know, let's

477
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: override it. Gives me a solution, and you know, quick

478
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: quick changes, and that's that's all of the things. Like

479
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: all right, if I'm I do truck hunt, you know,

480
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: you jump out of the truck at seventy five because

481
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: you're freezing, Like how quick is this? You know? And

482
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: there's a buck off throat on public like just a quick.

483
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 3: Over it's a matter of seconds ye for that. But

484
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 3: so we know because we can plug in and watch, right,

485
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: so I can watch that or I can breathe on it.

486
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 3: Watch the humidity go up, watch the temperature go up.

487
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: So we we know the times on all of those. Realistically,

488
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: if you're not baking the housing on the dashboard or

489
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 3: you know whatever, so that you've got the metal housing,

490
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: which is that whole chassis is heated up, then any

491
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: airflow through there should be good. And so one quick

492
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: thing you could do is take it out of that

493
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 3: harness and just wave it twice because it's measuring the

494
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: air that's in there. So you do it, I mean

495
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: just a couple and then go. It's a matter of seconds,

496
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: so generally you won't be set up and ready sooner

497
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: than it will be.

498
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then within that the top left corner has

499
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: an arrow indicator, right, so I love being able to

500
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: like preset my wind if I'm hunting a direction or no,

501
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: like for the day, Like, all right, we got like

502
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: a seven degree win entered in and then that gives

503
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: me when you range right, that will give you your

504
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: hold on wind based on the wind direction. So that

505
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: was like another huge thing where yeah, it might not

506
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: be perfect, but it gives me a pretty good, very

507
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: quick solution that all right, if the wind is still

508
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: at my right and at seven miles an hour, then

509
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: this needs to be my wind hold. And that was

510
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: huge for me because now we don't got to go

511
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: in and like you know, drag the wheel around, do

512
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: any of this. Like, it's a much quicker solution. So

513
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: it was nice to have that built into the upper

514
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: left display that we had you know, wind in this

515
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: direction and this would be your hold based on that wind.

516
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and there's there's one step for so one

517
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,479
Speaker 3: of the beautiful things about getting the hardware right and

518
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 3: planning for future revs on this, which is not easy

519
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: to do all the time. But what do we need

520
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: to what do we need to account for in the future,

521
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: and so some things that are coming that will even

522
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 3: make that easier is essentially which way is the wind going?

523
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: So I've got you know, as a hunter, yes, we

524
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 3: get used to turning our face into the wind. We

525
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 3: kind of feel that, but as an archer, you know

526
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: you're checking with wind check like which way is it

527
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: actually going? You'll be able to just point down, hit

528
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 3: that wind check down. You know the wind is going

529
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: that way, it's marked in there, it's done. That rangefinder

530
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: knows that, and now wherever you point, it's accounting for

531
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: that wind at that speed at that so.

532
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: It based on that you can mark us. It knows

533
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: what direction the way locks it in.

534
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: And then and then so you're not needing to even

535
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: do what you were doing. It'll just lock that in.

536
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Yeah, and that's one of the beautiful everythings

537
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: about the firmware updates and the way that this technology

538
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: was built with the app that future updates. You know,

539
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: as long as the firm as long as it allows

540
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: the hardware allows, like you got to be able to

541
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: make updates and this will be like a continuous updates.

542
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: Push those out right, and that's coming real soon.

543
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Let's get into pinning because the RX five

544
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: thousand was kind of where you guys released that technology

545
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: and now it's made its way into the b X. Derek,

546
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: you want to take the pinning questions here, they're awful silent.

547
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hand this over. People want to the people

548
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: want to hear your following along the whole time.

549
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: I just thought you'd talk the people.

550
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: The people want. I want you talking about lunch.

551
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 3: It was really good.

552
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: That's why I'm I've seen you. I'm trying to wake

553
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: you up.

554
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 4: So the pinning on the GPS walk us through why

555
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 4: that's such a big deal in real real world situations.

556
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: So the the idea of pinning is that when when

557
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: I'm looking at something through my handheld rangefinder or in

558
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 3: this case through the through the bino, I can mark

559
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: that exact location on my map, right, and so that's

560
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: good for spot and stock. That's good for are those

561
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: elk on public or private? What is that fence line?

562
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: Like?

563
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 3: If I can if I know that, I you can

564
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: go boop and drop a pin on exactly what I'm

565
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: looking at and then look at it on a map

566
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: and it's in the exact same spot. I can do

567
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: a lot of things with that in the elk or here,

568
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 3: How far away is that rock?

569
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

570
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: Those are that far apart. If I can get to

571
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: that rock, then my SHOT's going to be forty yards,

572
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: you know whatever. It is very handy for spot in

573
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: stock on deer right, you're up in the morning, you

574
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: get up high, you find one, you put it to bed,

575
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: pin it, and then you've got all day, hopefully to

576
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: go get into position and not set up one hundred

577
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 3: yards downwind of the wrong tree or the wrong rock

578
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 3: or the wrong whatever. It is right. So the idea

579
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: of pinning is very beneficial, but really only if you

580
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: get it right. So you know, if you're unting white

581
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: tail and you take a shot and it goes right

582
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: across the green field and that was the last place

583
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: you saw it, you can pin that. You now it's

584
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 3: going to be dark very very soon. You know, you

585
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: can walk to that pin and look for blood, right,

586
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: those types of things, But it has to be accurate

587
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: when you do that. It can't be in that general direction.

588
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: That works great if you're in the Alps or the

589
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: Rockies or somethinghere it's very very vertical and it's going

590
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: to hit some but if there's any flatness to that,

591
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 3: if you're off by a little bit, you can be

592
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: in the wrong zip code. So when we get to

593
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: the GPS component and magnetism, that's why we need to

594
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: be we're less than two degrees on that accuracy, generally

595
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: about half of that. Some of the other solutions are

596
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: ten degrees plus. So now if you look at what

597
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: that means in real time with us, if you look

598
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: at something a thousand yards away and drop the pin,

599
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: you will be less than twenty five yards left to

600
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: right total distance away from that you can just walk

601
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 3: right to that pin twenty five yards per thousand and

602
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: you're going to be right there. That's worst case scenario,

603
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 3: and that comes from the process of getting everything calibrated appropriately.

604
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 3: One thing I would mention on this is there are

605
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: hidden gotches. So binocular arnises with magnets are pinning out

606
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 3: of a truck guilty, we would do that. You look

607
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: at stuff if you're surrounded by a Ferris metal, a magnet,

608
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: a magnetic walk enclosure. There's a lot of coenclosures that

609
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: are magnetic. You just want to be careful with having that.

610
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 3: They just want to get that Ferris metal away from it.

611
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: But that is a really big advantage when you're that accurate.

612
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: You know, you figure you're within ten twelve yards in

613
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: any direction per thousand, so you're out there well over

614
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: a mile and you're with an archery range of it

615
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: every time perfectly. That is a huge advantage and can

616
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: be used more as a wayfinding tool than anything else.

617
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: And so a lot of work went into getting that

618
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: exactly right, not just hey, you're on it's that way

619
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 3: and then just here, look on your map and pick

620
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: a spot. Oh yeah, that's right about there. We've all

621
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: been doing that. Anyway, I need to hit the button

622
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: into exactly where it was.

623
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a few stories cused your hunting with

624
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: meat Eater, one of your competitors, like he was invited

625
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: on the hunt and I was testing the pinning and

626
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: the RX five thousand, and he shot accused here, And

627
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: anybody's been cused you hunt knows that sometimes you shoot

628
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: him in a pile of brush like they were going

629
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: to bed. We found him, shot him, and there was

630
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: a lot of arguments over where the deer had died. Well,

631
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: I didn't tell everybody that I had pinned the deer

632
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: before we walked around the canyon. So I let these

633
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: other two guys that I was with just go on,

634
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: all right, where do you guys think the deer? I

635
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: got to look like the superhero because I went and

636
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: stood by the deer and let them walk around for

637
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and then said, hey, guys, it's over here,

638
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: so like you know, in a brush area that all

639
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: looks the same same time with my meal deer this year,

640
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: I used the RX five thousand pinned it because you

641
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: were just going to burn and once you got over

642
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: to that side, it's the same slope, same burn forever.

643
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: One thing I do like to add to the pinning

644
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: is take a picture with my with my phone. I pinned,

645
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: but I also took a picture, and then it helps

646
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: like oh there was a log here and a broken

647
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: off and then between the pinning, and that at least

648
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: gets you, like you said, within the twenty five yards,

649
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: and now I've got a picture that says this is

650
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: where the deer, you know, was shot. And then I

651
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: use those in combination. And then this year in Montana,

652
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: my boys buck within ten yards of a BLM line

653
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: private versus public. You know, that was one where I

654
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: had to throw my I have an FAHF with magnet,

655
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: had to throw it because it was given, you know,

656
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: it was messing with my reading, got rid of it,

657
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: finally separated the binos, pinned it and said, yeah, the

658
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: deer is five yards on public according to this and

659
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: is walking into public. Let's go, versus if it would

660
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: have been further into private, we had to wait. And

661
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: so you know, good good uses for it for recovery,

662
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: for figuring out where you're at on on X, and

663
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: then we also use it for when we're rifle wanting,

664
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: like our approach like pinned to here, like because sometimes

665
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: you get down in these canyons, like I don't I

666
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: want to be on this ring. And if I missed

667
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: this ridge because I'm down on the bottom, like is

668
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: that the right ridge? Like, oh, well, on X says

669
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: I need to be on you know, now says I

670
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: need to be on this rail. So we use it

671
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: a lot for our pursuit to either shooting locations or

672
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: to re engage in animal or whatever. So we use it,

673
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: and that quite a bit as well.

674
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: When we were developing this, we it wasn't done yet,

675
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: and I went on a hunt and I was in

676
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: Utah hunting right on the Utah Woming border and literally

677
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: in the snow, and it was cold, it was miserable,

678
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 2: it was wet, you know, it was it was one

679
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: of those days and I we couldn't tell whether the

680
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: buck was actually in Wyoming or was actually you know,

681
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: in Utah. And so we sat there for hours, hours,

682
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, until finally I had to estimate. But I

683
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: had I had to let him come back, you know.

684
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: So the hunt lasted a lot longer, which was okay,

685
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: except the conditions were pretty rough. But I was at

686
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: that point I was like sold. I remember calling Tim,

687
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: I wish I had I wish I had the you know,

688
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: the new pinning technology with me right now, because it

689
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: would have helped a ton.

690
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have shot him four hours ahead of time.

691
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been a lot more confident because

692
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: there's not one None of us want that mossete. Yeah,

693
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: you know, and you can't afford to take that chance.

694
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: So luckily he came back toward me, which I knew

695
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: was going to be in the right spot, but he

696
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: could have easily gone the other way. So there's just

697
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: so many uses for it. And you know, it's the

698
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: other thing it's cool, is just like we're talking to

699
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: like fishing guides and you know, other people in law

700
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: enforcement and stuff and things that have the application for

701
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: this kind of thing to use. I think what we're

702
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: going to find with the b X six and the

703
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: pinning and all of this, people are going to use

704
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: it for a bunch of different things because you know,

705
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, here in the Northwest, you're salmon fishing, and

706
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: these guys are killing it right over here. It's like

707
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: I might see a pin of that I want to

708
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: go to.

709
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's a lot of good uses.

710
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: For it that are that are out there now.

711
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: In case our listeners don't know, we talked about pinning.

712
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: Jason didn't mention on X how does the penning work?

713
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: How does it it? It blittooth to your phone and

714
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: then makes a mark on your on X.

715
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: Correct. Yes, So we can pin to several different mapping softwares.

716
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: On X is the probably you know, hands down the

717
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: most popular of those. But you can pin to Apple Maps,

718
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: can pin to do your cast, there's several hunt stand

719
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: But the idea is there's a loophole control app and

720
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: it's named that for a reason. We're not trying to

721
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: push anything other than you can control your products with it.

722
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: You can control the RX five. That was really easy

723
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: to use, and so that that was the That was

724
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: the mandate, right was when you when you nobody wants

725
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: another app, let's just let's just call it what it is.

726
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 3: Nobody wants that extra app. But if you're trying to

727
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: figure something like a BX six range to you as

728
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: a hunter or you as a rifle hunter, you as

729
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: a bow hunter, and me as an NRL hunter, competition

730
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: set up. Trying to do that with a couple buttons

731
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: is going to be painful, so being able to just

732
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: quickly go through intuitively pootpoot, boot, poop, done, put it away,

733
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: be done with It doesn't change until later. The control

734
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: app part of that is for pinning, So what you

735
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: would be doing is every time I arrange, I'm not

736
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: just dropping pins all over my map. I can go

737
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: back and say, hey, I want that last one. But

738
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: most likely what it is is, Okay, we're in a spot,

739
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: there's a bowl that I want to take a shot at,

740
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: or they just went over that hill and I want

741
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: to fall in behind him, whatever the he just bedded down.

742
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: I want to pin. The next time I push this,

743
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: I want to pin that. So you just pin the

744
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: next one. You range it and it throws. It goes

745
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: directly to your mapping. So we'll go with on X.

746
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: On X opens automatically it drops a pin on that

747
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: exact location. So if my laser was a string, wherever

748
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: the end of that string was, it drops a pin

749
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: right there. It has a loophold logo icon on it,

750
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: so it will stand out. It's a different color, different

751
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: everything than the other ones. But then you can edit

752
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: it do all the same things. You want to take

753
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: that picture and embedded in there like you're used to

754
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: turn it red, green, blue, an x, you know, a

755
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: buck symbol, a bowl symbol, whatever. But initially it starts

756
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: out as a loophol symbol, so you can find it

757
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: right away, but you're not going to just spam it

758
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: all over your map. Every time you range you tell it, hey,

759
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: I want to know where that is, and then and

760
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: then it'll drop right on there.

761
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: So what was the display like brightness? Why did we

762
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: choose it low light? You know, fast paced tons? Like

763
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: what does the display look like? Can you kind of

764
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: without getting into too much detail, like what information do

765
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: we given? How do we confirm that everything's right? And

766
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: then you know kind of what lives in that display?

767
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a display that we developed called

768
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: an acuview display. Again, optics were job one, right, and

769
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: so the display is the reason that a lot of

770
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: range finding optics may have some degradation to the optical performance.

771
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: So what we've done is we've chosen a red color

772
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: that's relaxing to the eye. That's what people are used to,

773
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: and that There's two ways to do display as in

774
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: a range finder. One is you look through it and

775
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: that cuts out a ton of light. The other is

776
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: to project it up in there, so think heads up

777
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: display on when you're driving in your car, you can

778
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: see the spedometer reflected off your windshield. That is the

779
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: more popular way of doing it because it doesn't cut

780
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 3: down on light transmission. What it does do is whatever

781
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: color we want that display to be, in this case red,

782
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: you need to reflect that off of the lens. So

783
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: just like it reflects off your windshield. You know, if

784
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: you're driving and your spentometer is shining up like this,

785
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: it bounces off comes back to your eye. Same things happening.

786
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: That little display is sitting down here and it's bouncing

787
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: off and back to your eye. Well, all the light

788
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: that's coming in through the front of that channel that

789
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 3: is that same wavelength is going to bounce back off

790
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 3: and go the other way. So we managed it down

791
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: to we only want to do one very narrow band

792
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: of wavelengths that are that exact color. So now you

793
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: need to have a really good display that's only going

794
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: to be that color because we don't want to cut

795
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: out reds that gives you a blue worldview when you

796
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: look through it. I think we've seen that with red

797
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: dot optics or cheaper range finders. You look through them

798
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: and everything's blue. It's blue because they're trying to reflect

799
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: red and use very little battery. Well, with less expensive displays,

800
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 3: you get a broader band of red. This display maybe

801
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: this color. That one's that color. So now I need

802
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: to block out all of these. This whole chunk of

803
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: red has to go away. With a really good display,

804
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: you say, they're all going to be right here, and

805
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm only cutting that one little narrow band of wavelengths out.

806
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: Why that matters. If you look on a color wheel,

807
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: red is on one side, blue is directly opposite. Guard

808
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: hairs and animals are red. Like when you start looking

809
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: at it, there's a lot of red in gritters. We

810
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: don't want to cut that all out, and so that's

811
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: the display technology. Honestly was one of the biggest limitters

812
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: on getting this to market because it would degrade the optics.

813
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: And we finally got to a place where you cannot

814
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: degrade the optics and get the right battery life and

815
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: have full pixel display, not just the segments. I think

816
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: we've all got our complaints about the ones that are segmented.

817
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: What does that say? This is like a TV display,

818
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: So it'll give you full instructions when you're looking through it,

819
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: very fine aiming points for your radical so you know

820
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: exactly where you're hitting. All of those things were The

821
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: display was the kind of the missing lynch pin.

822
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: Gotcha? And you mentioned better your life. I haven't used

823
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: mine enough to get there, like do you guys haven't anticipated.

824
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: Like years years, year, years and years?

825
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: Gotcha? And and that pop up display or projection display,

826
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: if I remember right, it's only in the right eye. Correct,

827
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: it's in that right eye of that, but it tricks

828
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: your brain while you're looking through it that it's in

829
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: both but it's really on that right eye. And you know,

830
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: alignment is a little bit important, right if you get

831
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: out of whack too far, you're glass and weird at

832
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: a weird angle. So like alignment, you know, is is

833
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: a little bit important, but it's it's pretty forgiving, you know, left, right,

834
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: up and down. But there were times where I could

835
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: like skew the display, but it was my fault holding it.

836
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: But oh if you were, yeah, you got to be.

837
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: Pretty aligned with the biniacular, but it wasn't I noticed,

838
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: like you could get it to skew off. But for

839
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: the most part, it was super bright and and you

840
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: guys had multiple brightness levels. Whether it was early in

841
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: the morning, maybe you didn't want to be blinded if

842
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to make a shot early and real quick

843
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: changes to you know, even on the binocular, like the

844
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: menu is really intuitive, like hey man, I'm getting blinded.

845
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Let's let's crank this down a little bit, and the

846
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day you have to crank

847
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: it back up. But yeah, so we've.

848
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: Got a full kind of kind of five button just

849
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: so you can you're not just using two buttons to

850
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: get through the menu. So you can go down through

851
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: the menu, you can go over, you get full textual

852
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: explanations if you need it. And the reason that's on

853
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: there is in case something happens to your phone, right,

854
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: so full backup, I don't want I don't have the app,

855
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: don't want to use the app, broke my phone, phone died,

856
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: whatever it was. You have full access to everything. But

857
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: that eyebox sensitivity is something that is a kind of

858
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: a trademark hallmark but probably a better way of saying

859
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: that for us, you want those clear optics. But whether

860
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: it's a rifle scope, a binocular spotting scope, it needs

861
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: to work for you, and you need to be in

862
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: awkward positions, right, So forgiving eyebox is something that you

863
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: can design into an optic, into a good optic, and

864
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: we have done that before.

865
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: I forget about it. One of the features I really

866
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: like and it it seems like something that's maybe so simple,

867
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: but you guys got it right on this were the

868
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: I cups, Like the little bit of an angled rubber

869
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: like that was one of my like when the BX

870
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: five originally came out, and like me personally, like, man,

871
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: they're pretty square, they're pretty hard. Where this this b

872
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: X six has got the I don't even know what

873
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: you guys call it, like angled rubber, but man, it's

874
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: just comfortable once again, comfort all day sitting behind binos,

875
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Like these things are just comfortable and soft. I didn't

876
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: even I think it came with a couple extra sets.

877
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be in the production.

878
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that heck was that whatever? You guys

879
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: sent stock on them. We're money and I just went

880
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: with them.

881
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 2: Now you can definitely find I cups there. They're gonna

882
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: fit you because we're all different, right, yeah, comfortable.

883
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: With different things.

884
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: It's it's a huge feature.

885
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: We're doing a lot of more monoculars.

886
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Now, very very comfortable. So this is a you know,

887
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't have the gold ring on it per se,

888
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: but like, what is the warranty on this BX six

889
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: going to be? Like, uh, what is you know, the

890
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: loop world warranty behind a product like this with both

891
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: range finding and optics.

892
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so lifetime warranty on the optical components, five year

893
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: electronics warranty on the electronics, and that is generally a

894
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: function of how long are those available, So we always

895
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: will strive to take care if we've got that component

896
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: and it still is available, we're going to take care

897
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 3: of that consumer. We do all the service right here.

898
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: So that is a massive advantage over needing to send

899
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: them to a different continent waiting months and months to

900
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: get them back, because it is a tool. It's a

901
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: tool that we need to be successful. When I guided,

902
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: I had backups for guides, right, and so if somebody's

903
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: optic went down, I had to send them another one

904
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: while I waited eight months to get that one back.

905
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: And you can't go without a truck, right, So you

906
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 3: can't go without your binos and So that's a lifetime

907
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: on the optics, five year on the electronics, and that's

908
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: mostly related to can we get the sensor we need

909
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: because we'll do all the service right here, normal turn

910
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: around time.

911
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So at the end of is there anything

912
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: else we want to talk about the or anything we

913
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: didn't cover? I'm stoked because as a guy that hunts,

914
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: you know, out west long glassing, like I love, as

915
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: much as I love elk hunting, it's not necessarily as

916
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: glass intensive like sitting behind the glass meal deer hunting,

917
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, antalope punting and looking at stuff like I

918
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: love that and and in my opinion, like these binoculars

919
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: are there, like as good as I'd ever want, glass

920
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: quality everything I want in the Blitz soclutions. But there'snything

921
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about that people need to know about

922
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: the b X six. Anything we left off the table,

923
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

924
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: I think you guys covered it pretty thoroughly. I mean

925
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: I think that you know it's we we take new

926
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: products seriously, and this is literally worked for years on this.

927
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: This isn't this isn't something that we bought off the

928
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: shelf or we tried to do. This is the years

929
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: in the making with a really talented design team based

930
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: right here in Beaverton, Oregon. You know, so it's a

931
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: it's definitely a more than just a new product for us.

932
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: This one is a little bit of the labor I

933
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: love because I know how much, how much kind of

934
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: pain and that we went through to get this to

935
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: where we wanted it. So we're we're really proud.

936
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

937
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 4: Here's some grumblings about a VX Forgen two. Yeah, what's

938
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 4: that all about?

939
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: You know?

940
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: I mean one of the things that you know, every

941
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: rifle scope, in fact, any optic that you put and

942
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: mount on and you're going to actually use to you know,

943
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: make something happen, is anything we sell has made in

944
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: this factory here in Beaverton, and what you guys saw.

945
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: So we've we're really proud.

946
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: Of what we do here.

947
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: And you know, the gold ring line of rifle scopes.

948
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: We think, you know, when you start with the VX

949
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: six is the absolute best hunting scope in the market,

950
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people agree with that

951
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: when we look at the numbers and kind of data

952
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: out there of how many people own those.

953
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: But but you know, as you go down.

954
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: We also want to make sure that you know, we're

955
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: building you know, incredible premium optics at every kind of

956
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: price point, all the way down through to the beginning

957
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: to our freedom. And we saw, you know, where our

958
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: line is when you go V six VX five, and

959
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: then there was a honestly a space there that we

960
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: wanted to be able to make sure that we you know,

961
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: kind of right under one thousand dollars had another great

962
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: performance scope. And so the engineering and product team really

963
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: map that out. And it's a hard task, man, because

964
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: you know, you're trying to go, you know, you're kind

965
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: of here's your VX five and it's really good, it's

966
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: done very well for us in the market, and then

967
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: how do we kind of make this this spot work

968
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: and make sense. And I think the team really did

969
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: a great job of developing another optic that is incredible

970
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: optic quality, it's going to work great in low light,

971
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: and it's it's you know, gonna be the best value

972
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: I think out there. If you get a VX four

973
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: and you're doing it right under a thousand bucks there,

974
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: right at that point, you're getting a world class optic

975
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: at under one thousand dollars. And so it's I think

976
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: it's going to be a huge home run for us.

977
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: So we're we're it's out there, we're making them right now,

978
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: and we're getting them out there, and we'll be full

979
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: production here before you know, in the next couple of

980
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: weeks really, So it's it's exciting.

981
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: One thing that really impressed me. And I don't know,

982
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: I know not all scope manufacturers do this. You guys

983
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: have your heat test. You had one hundred and fifty

984
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: degrees for how long? It's quite a lot.

985
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well you have to remember that a lot

986
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: of our product ends up going overseas and sitting in

987
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: storage connects before it goes to war, right, and so

988
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: those tests are derived from operational requirements from mill standards.

989
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: You look at the normal eight ten h eight ten

990
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: testing and it's a hybrid of all that. So you'll

991
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: the storage temperatures, the operational temperatures. When you're looking at

992
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: operational temperature and needs to do that definitely, right, and

993
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: so storage temperatures are going to be even higher and

994
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: going to be longer. But those operational temperatures you think

995
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: it's a black or a brown optic in the sun

996
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: in the desert, they get hundreds of degrees well, and

997
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: that sun is beaten on them. So we need to

998
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: test for all of that, and then it needs to

999
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: be able to come out of a you know, an

1000
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: airplane at thirty thousand feet and then open in a

1001
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: tropical environment after just a minute or so. There's a

1002
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: lot of testing that goes on here, and it actually

1003
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: cross pollinates. Four wheelers are really tough one and stuff,

1004
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 3: and so swimming out of a you know, a torpedo tube.

1005
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: It's a great point. I mean that that's the thing

1006
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: that I don't think a lot of people realize is

1007
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: because of the fact that we've been determined to make

1008
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: every single rifle scope here that if you're literally what

1009
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: we sell to the most elite units in the world

1010
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: and what they use. We do the same test on

1011
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: everything in our hunting lines, starting with the VX Freedom.

1012
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: But like this VX four we're talking about, which is

1013
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: like I said, it's gonna be a great value just

1014
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: under a thousand dollars, incredible performance. It goes through the

1015
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: same rigor that we put on something that you know

1016
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: a unit's going to have that is you know, out

1017
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: there kind of every day.

1018
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what blew me away because they were testing

1019
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: some of the Freedom scopes, the same type of mill

1020
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 4: Spec type testing the Mark five's take and it's like,

1021
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: it's amazing to me.

1022
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: I don't think everybody does that.

1023
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if they do or not. My guess

1024
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: is they probably don't when we test the product and

1025
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: look at which we do. But we do, and that's

1026
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 2: part of what you get when you buy a loople.

1027
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did want to offer Dirk services. You guys

1028
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: have that big recoil tester down there, but Dirk is

1029
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: more than willing to shoot the five pound fifty b

1030
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: MG to test all your scopes thousands of times. That guy, yeah,

1031
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: he's that. He's that tough that he'll test a five

1032
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: pounds fifty with all of your guys scopes if you

1033
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: want to add that to your testing regin.

1034
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: I remember we had a he's no longer here, but

1035
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: we had a When I first got here, I was

1036
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: talking to one of the guys that ran that machine

1037
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: down there, and I'm like like, so, like, what what

1038
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: is that? Like like that kind of recall and he

1039
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: goes knock you out and you're out cold. So we're

1040
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: not gonna let Dirk te.

1041
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: Fun. I would I will sign the all sign all

1042
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: the waivers you yeah, I'll sign him for him. That

1043
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: will take on the liability. Just a just a video

1044
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: of that fame.

1045
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 3: It has to be one round.

1046
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah at a five pound, Yeah, it would be. But

1047
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: I do I don't know. Are you guys accepting any

1048
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: job offerings for that? Like just shooting in a tunnel

1049
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: and doing that like that seemed like the coolest job

1050
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: on the face, it's pretty cool, you know.

1051
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: You got to really hand it to the to the

1052
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: Louppold and Stephens family for finding this location. So when

1053
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: they bought this property, I think it was sixty eight,

1054
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: it was farm land out here, you know, and Nike

1055
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: didn't wasn't over there, and Columbia wasn't over there, I

1056
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: think it was. And one of the reasons that they

1057
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: chose this property is because at that time it wasn't

1058
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: a problem to put a shooting tunnel under our parking

1059
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: lot like we have. And it's just it's such a

1060
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: great thing for our team product testing, you know, because

1061
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: you know everybody, you know, they always send in the

1062
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: scope and it's always the scope's fall, of course, and

1063
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: most of the time we find out it's the AMMO.

1064
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm joking, but it's.

1065
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: It's usually mount through the AMMO or there's all kinds

1066
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: of things that go on with somebody when they're but

1067
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: we can we can take it and we can look

1068
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: at it and say and test it. And you know,

1069
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: in some cases if we find something there that we

1070
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: go to work, we go to work on making it

1071
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: better and fixing it. And the other benefit it is

1072
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: we have a ton as you know, I mean, this

1073
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: team hunts. This team is out in the field, they

1074
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: shoot PRS, matches all the time, and they're doing all

1075
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: kinds of things, and so we we give our team

1076
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: access to that, you know, and they can go in

1077
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: before season, you see guys going down there and zero

1078
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: their rifles and getting them ready to go and and

1079
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: uh so product testing doing that. We have a we

1080
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: have a shooting facility out in Madress, organ which I

1081
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: don't know if you've had a chance to go. Yeah, yeah,

1082
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: we got to get out there. It's it's phenomenal that

1083
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: we do a lot of get our engineering team out

1084
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: there and we can shoot for you know, long long

1085
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: long ways on what's our what's the longest.

1086
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: We know we can get to a couple of thousand meters.

1087
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's pretty awesome. So we do that

1088
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: as well. But just having this right here in this spot,

1089
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: it's it's it's neat.

1090
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: So I know, you guys got other meetings to go to.

1091
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: Is there anything else like on the observation side, or

1092
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: like where's loop hold going in the future, like knew

1093
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: this new that anything we can talk about, or just

1094
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: kind of like what's the next big product We've.

1095
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of stuff coming and you know,

1096
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: we we set out and our product and engineering team

1097
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: we have a five year roadmap on on new product

1098
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: and we're we're constantly innovative. One of the things that

1099
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: you know, our vision is is to be the dominant

1100
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: performance optics company in the world. And part of that

1101
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: we're not there. And part of that that that mantra

1102
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: that we have is to to never stop kind of improving,

1103
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: never stop making better product for our customers out there.

1104
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: And so it just requires us to have this this

1105
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: this new product development cycle continue to go on.

1106
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: It's a lot of work.

1107
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: And I think we've got about seventy five engineers in

1108
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: this building and so they're not all designing product, but

1109
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: but of various disciplines, right, and so it's it's it's

1110
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 2: just an ongoing thing and we've got some really cool

1111
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: stuff coming and uh, you know later this year in

1112
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: terms of what we're doing on on some carbing side,

1113
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: which is think is gonna be cool, It's gonna gonna

1114
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: really do well. We're can continue to work on observation

1115
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: every day, so all of these these core areas for us,

1116
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: whether it's magnified rifle scopes, red dots, what we do

1117
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, spotters, got another I got

1118
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: a killer spot coming this year. We're really close to

1119
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: getting that done. So that'll have a lot of application,

1120
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: particularly on the military side in terms of what we do.

1121
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: So just keep keep keep tuned.

1122
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: Man, We got we got stuff counts awesome. Well, we

1123
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: we can't thank you guys enough for the partnership, the

1124
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: friendship as well, not just the partnership, and uh, you know,

1125
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: just Leopold's generosity to let us come down through the

1126
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: factory and just be a part of what you guys

1127
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: are doing. And uh, one thing I love is you

1128
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: guys accept feedback from us. You know a lot of times,

1129
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, some people don't want to hear the feedback,

1130
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: but it seems like you and your team like, hey,

1131
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: this is you know, we're out there testing it and

1132
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: it's nice to like, you know, hey, somebody's taking the

1133
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: feedback or working with us, and uh, yeah, it's it's great.

1134
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: And uh, I can't thank you guys enough.

1135
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you guys are the best, So thanks for

1136
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: you know you're we love hanging out with you too.

1137
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: So having to beer with you guys is great too.

1138
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: And so anytime, anytime, you're welcome here, anytime, All right, perfect,

1139
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm coming.

1140
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: For coffee tomorrow. Alright, No, thanks a lot, guys. Yeah,

1141
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: go check out this will be this will launch after

1142
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: the b X six is officially launched on the eleventh, right,

1143
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: So go check it out. Go. Uh look at the specs,

1144
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: look at the details, like at the videos, everything that's

1145
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: out there on them, and uh, like I say, I

1146
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: I was fortunate to have serial number seventeen, so I

1147
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: was one of the few that got to hunt with it,

1148
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: and uh, very very impressed. And the confidence that I

1149
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: was able to to take away from that on shooting solutions, glassing,

1150
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: all of the above. Is it met all the criteria

1151
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: for me for a for a Western you know optics.

1152
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: So very excited.

1153
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: Yeh.

1154
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: Should be able to find them a loophole dot com

1155
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: when it'll list what retailers have them and so far.

1156
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Thanks a lot, Yeah, take care

1157
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: of Thanks guys,