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Speaker 1: Loka Tota Radio is a radiophonic novela.

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Speaker 2: Which is just a very extra way of saying a podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm fosa fem and.

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Speaker 2: I am ma la munos. We're podcasting through another Trump

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Speaker 2: election year. We've been podcasting through election years, a global pandemic,

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Speaker 2: civic unrest, political controversies, the Me Too movement, the rise

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Speaker 2: of TikTok, and we are still here. We're not done

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Speaker 2: telling stories.

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Speaker 1: We're still making podcasts. We're older, we're wiser, We're even

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Speaker 1: podcasting through a new decade of our lives.

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Speaker 2: Since twenty sixteen, we've been making Loca thro Our Radio

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Speaker 2: independently until we joined iHeartMedia's Michael Dura Network in twenty

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Speaker 1: From our Lips to your ears, fall in love with

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Speaker 1: Loka to a radio like you never have before.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Season nine, Love at First.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Olao la Loka Motes. Welcome to season nine of

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Speaker 1: log A Tora Radio. I'm the Ossa and I'm Mala

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Speaker 1: Loka Tora Radio is a podcast dedicated to archiving are

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Speaker 1: present and shifting the culture forward. You're tuning in to

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Speaker 1: Capitulo dos Cientos Ventno to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Last Time on loc A Tora Radio, we interviewed Penny

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Speaker 2: Le Ramirez, host of the new podcast Chess Piece The

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Speaker 3: A lot of people in the US when you mentioned

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Speaker 3: Elean Gonzales, they remember some of the case. They remember

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Speaker 3: But we haven't talked about him in a while. But

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Speaker 3: this year, this November, we're turning twenty five years of

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Speaker 3: that case and that case. In that moment, I know

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and tune into that capitulo, leave us a

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Speaker 1: Today is so exciting because it is our second to

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Speaker 1: last episode of season nine.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: We have made it through another season, our ninth season

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Speaker 1: of Look At Our Radio, and we're also approaching our

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Speaker 1: eight year anniversary.

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Speaker 2: We have like a lot of milestones coming up, and

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Speaker 1: I know, and they're still so much more and we'll

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Speaker 1: be talking more about that in our final episode of

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Speaker 1: the season. But today we have the honor of sitting

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Speaker 1: down with Selena stittis. She's joining us in the studio today.

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Speaker 1: And what's so special about today's guest is that we

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Speaker 1: met Selena when we hosted the Purple Lily Awards. We

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Speaker 1: were introduced to her by our friend and Pascuaso lok

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Speaker 1: At our Radio, Curly Velasquez, and she was also receiving

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Speaker 1: quite an award that evening. She was the honoree of

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Speaker 1: a fantastic guest for Lokat to our Radio.

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Speaker 2: She's got a lot going on. In addition to being

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Speaker 2: a past contestant on RuPaul's Drag Race, Selena also has

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Speaker 2: we talked to Selena about all things, including the life

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Speaker 2: after her time on Drag Race. All right, look on

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Speaker 2: only Selena s Titties welcome to look at what our radio?

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Speaker 2: Can you please say hello to our listeners?

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Speaker 4: Hey, baby.

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Speaker 1: A jump scare.

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Speaker 3: How are you guys?

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Speaker 4: Yes, since we just said, I'm so happy to be here,

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Speaker 4: thanks for having me. You guys are like iconic and

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Speaker 4: like the reason my whole drag persona exists is because

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Speaker 4: my theas, my sister, my mom. It's like, y'all literally

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Speaker 4: you guys for everything you've built. The podcast has been

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a good jumping off point to

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Speaker 2: You nailed it, and Curly brought you up and presented

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Speaker 4: My mom, well, my mom got cancer and that really

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Speaker 4: you know, I think pride with my mom, honoring her

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, look a Mortes, We'll be.

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Speaker 2: Right back, and we're back with more of our episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious about, like the life cycle of a

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Speaker 2: drag queen. How did you start? What was your first step?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, So I was out here. I graduated

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Speaker 1: And what was that experience like being on drag Race?

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Speaker 4: You know what's wild? What I just realized was I

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Speaker 4: But I'm like, okay, but this is my experience of

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Speaker 1: I love that reflection so much. I mean, now, looking back,

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Speaker 4: I think, just my if I could do anything differently,

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Speaker 4: it would just be my reaction to the feedback, you know,

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Speaker 4: Like I felt so like this was my art. What

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Speaker 4: do you mean you don't understand? So I'm just something

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Speaker 4: Does that makes sense? I might making sense?

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Speaker 4: Crazy, not at all, because also like, okay, I appreciate

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Speaker 4: Because you know, I don't know a lot of people

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Speaker 4: They just wanted to be like, eh.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what it was. I grew up that

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Speaker 4: We grew up basically with our uncles who took care

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Speaker 4: Micocmpias in South central like every other weekend. We're always

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's why I'm gay, but it definitely helped,

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, you know.

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Speaker 4: And then my parents also were already gonna be accepting

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Speaker 4: parties every weekend. It was always someone's birthday, someone's graduation

436
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 4: of another baby's born, and like these Latino parties. But

437
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 4: I was always so ashamed growing up because I would

438
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 4: see what was on TV and that didn't replicate what

439
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 4: my experience growing up. So I would always like be

440
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 4: so anti my Latin experience growing up, you know what

441
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 4: I mean, looking for like the way out because I'm like, Okay,

442
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 4: y'all be proud of being broke, and you know what

443
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 4: I mean, Like in my mind, that's how I saw it,

444
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 4: because I would see what was winning out in the

445
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 4: world and that wasn't me and my family, you know.

446
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 4: So I would be so ashamed that I had all

447
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 4: that internalized racism building up for me in the very

448
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 4: early age. So when I moved out to we to

449
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 4: like La, I was like, we're gonna break, We're gonna

450
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 4: get out of this, you know. And I would only

451
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 4: find out later that owning my experience in all of

452
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: who I am, having pride in that would make me,

453
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 4: you know, who I am today and like help me succeed,

454
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 4: you know.

455
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it sounds pretty like common right where

456
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: if we're like growing up in poverty or maybe low income,

457
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: and we see the way to get away from that

458
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: is like to get as close to whiteness as possible.

459
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: So it sounded like that was maybe your defense and

460
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: the way you saw like out quote unquote.

461
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 4: And I still like I'm learning the verbiage of that,

462
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And then like I it's

463
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: it's wild to say out loud, you know, And I

464
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 4: get what a lot of feedback I get from a

465
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 4: lot of other people, and like my friends who are

466
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: super proud to be Mexican or Latino are always like

467
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I'm like, this is

468
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 4: just my experience. I didn't know any better, you know,

469
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: So like it's I try not to be a shamed

470
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 4: in my experience. It is what it is. It's brought

471
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: me to this point. And like, at the end of

472
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 4: the day, I'm like, I feel like we have like

473
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: sometimes I approach this thing where like people are more

474
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 4: proud than me and I'm less than because of it.

475
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

476
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: It is?

477
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 4: And I'm like, wait, we have like a common goal.

478
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: My goal is is I think the same as yours.

479
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: So can we work together to like uplift each other

480
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: instead of like trying to hierarchy ourselves.

481
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. So sometimes I also feel like, you know, Latini

482
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: that as we talk about it, it is a construct,

483
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: a social construct, and so it also kind of depends

484
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: on your personal amount of like buy in to the construct.

485
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: I feel you I think about Latini that and you know,

486
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: like some people have their home country's flag on everything.

487
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: It's hanging in their car and it's on their phone case,

488
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's like and we do that

489
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: and we love doing that. But I think about it

490
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: sometimes like having school spirit. Like we're all registered at

491
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: the same school, in the same classes, We're walking the

492
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: same halls.

493
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 4: You know, you go to every football game. I don't,

494
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 4: you know, But.

495
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that I'm not a student, correct, I'm

496
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: still I'm here with you.

497
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 4: That's such a beautiful analogy, you know what I mean.

498
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: And so I think that's that's part of it too.

499
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: Other people are just way more intense and vocal about it.

500
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: And I think sometimes like it's like a grass is

501
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: greener on the other side thing, Right, So did you

502
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: have an experience where like you went and you were

503
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: like around like a suburban white family and you realize, like, oh,

504
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: this actually isn't any better, Like my my folks are

505
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: cooler and more fun and I have a more unique

506
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: experience and I'm so grateful for where I come from.

507
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: Did you have that like turning point mm hmm.

508
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 4: And that happened when I, like I was asking my

509
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: mom like all those questions and stuff and becoming a

510
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 4: little more like, ooh work. She we had to work

511
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 4: to get here, you know what I mean? Or she

512
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: had to, my family had to. I just was born.

513
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: But like that made me realize, oh snap. And when

514
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: I was out here, after I quit my day jobs

515
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 4: and created, I was like, let me create a show

516
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 4: for myself, like my own drag show. I was like,

517
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: how can I do that? And how can I bring

518
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: in my latinists and how can I like help use

519
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 4: that to help me own it more a little? So

520
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 4: I was like, let me create a party that was

521
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: like the parties I grew up with. So I created

522
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 4: a drag night called because my family loves Lothia, so

523
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: we always play Lotia and bitch I love a so

524
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: I can never find the man. So I was like,

525
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: let me, let me create a night where like I

526
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 4: have the club make a lot and we play Lotidia.

527
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: And I created a night called Elia, and I changed

528
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 4: the drawings on the boards to be more gay and

529
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 4: drag queen, and like, so I was combining my Latin

530
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: culture with my gay culture and my drag queenness, and

531
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 4: like I created this night called Altria, and it's like

532
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: a celebration night a yourtha's house. Basically is how I

533
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: presented it, and it became the best actual Los Angeles

534
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three. I per formed it in like

535
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 4: that every week. That was what I did. I was

536
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: like hustling, and then I got on the show and

537
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: I just brought it back two weeks ago for the

538
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: first time since I've been on the show, and I'm

539
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: now making a documentary about it to like kind of

540
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: because of all the backlash I got while I was

541
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: on the show from you know, a lot of people.

542
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 4: A lot of people just happened to me the other day.

543
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: This girl was like, uh, You're not Mexican. And I

544
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: was like no, but like I basically like grew up

545
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 4: in and out of LA and like I've been here

546
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: forever and my my theas all live in South Central

547
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 4: so i'd always be down here. And she's like, oh,

548
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 4: well okay, and I was like, well, yeah, what are

549
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: you Then just what she said, I said, Well, my

550
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 4: family's from Hndreas, Panama, Icaragua, and she's like, oh, so

551
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 4: you're not Mexican. It was like this was this whole

552
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 4: thing and it was very interesting and so I was

553
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 4: like Okay. Because of this conversation alone, I was like,

554
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 4: let me make a documentary about like, you know how

555
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: even though we're all different, like we share similar you know,

556
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: we're all the same. We're not We're not the same,

557
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: but we're different with the same, you know what I mean.

558
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm working on documentary because I

559
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: want to take my show and take it on tour

560
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 4: and bring other drag race girls who are Latino and

561
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: into the show. And like, you know, the biggest stars

562
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: that we love from drag Race, Bianca She's from Hoduras,

563
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: Valentine's Mexican, Candy Muses, Dominican Zunami's Panamanian Morphine, loved dion Is,

564
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 4: Nikolai Wentz. So like I can bring them all into

565
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: my show and then when I do a documentary where

566
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: they share their experience and like, you know, we're not

567
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: all Mexican or you know, and there's nothing wrong with that.

568
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: We're not just Puerto Rican.

569
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 5: You know.

570
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: It's like we're a whole melting pot of different we

571
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 4: come from everywhere, but we're all still share similar you know,

572
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: at the end of the day that that heart, you know.

573
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 4: So I kind of working on a documentary right now

574
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 4: to like make that happen. And that all came from

575
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 4: my little show he and my little shit show downtown

576
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: by skid Row, Like is now going to flourish and

577
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 4: blossom into the beautiful thing that you know I struggled

578
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 4: with so much. When I got all that feedback and stuff,

579
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 4: I was like, well, let me put it back into

580
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: my art and let me see how it can like

581
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: help and like create something for people that's a learning experience,

582
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: but also not like this bad like like y'all are

583
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: wrong type thing. It's more of like, let's celebrate ourselves

584
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: in a way. You know.

585
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: It sounds like you took the feedback and actually did

586
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: something constructive with it, like you applied it.

587
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 4: That's my goal, right because I could sit here and

588
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: complain and be like oh more for me, you know,

589
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: but like, don't get me.

590
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Nowhere and question going back to the girl that mentioned

591
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: or questioned if you were Mexican or not? Was this

592
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: because of the lot? Like was she taking issue with

593
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: that or like what was where was that coming from?

594
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: I think for her or personally, because you know, the

595
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 4: drag race girls are struggling right now because there's a

596
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 4: lot of drag queens, there's a lot of drag race

597
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: there's queens everywhere. The market's very saturated. So like, I

598
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: just released a new podcast coming out, and I just

599
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: think personally, she's like, oh, she sees me winning, and

600
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: she's she called my drag cosplay. She's like, you're cosplaying.

601
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, do you know what you're saying

602
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: when you say that? And then when she's like, oh,

603
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: you're not even Mexican, I'm like, you're not Latina at all.

604
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: So it was a little in the moment, I was like,

605
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: this is a learning experience. Let me teach her. But

606
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: at the same time, I was like, bitch, calm down.

607
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Wait, no, you don't have to say the name. But wait,

608
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: this was non Latina. Was this a white person?

609
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: No, she was black, but which even more so, I

610
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: was like girl interest. It was very interesting, but I

611
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 4: was like, in my face, I'm used to that online

612
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: in comments and stuff. But I was like, and I

613
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 4: thought she was my sister, you know what I mean.

614
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: So I was like, it was giving a little bit

615
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: of like jealousy because she sees me out here hustling

616
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: and making shit happen. Sure, Loki, that's then underlying thing.

617
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 4: So I think she was wanted to knock me down

618
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: a couple of pegs. But I was like, girl, this

619
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: is exactly why I want to work on this documentary,

620
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: you know.

621
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the documentary, the podcast, you have projects.

622
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: You have to the word I have to. You have

623
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: to stay relevant with these kids and the content of

624
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: the fifteen second tiktoks. You got to make sure that,

625
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: oh god, it's a lot.

626
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: It's expensive.

627
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: Yes, it's expensive, totally.

628
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: And at the Purpo Lily Awards, when we were chatting

629
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: with you, Curly introduced us and you started talking about

630
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: your show, The.

631
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: Homegirl hot Line.

632
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: Tell Home Girl hot Line, tell us all about it.

633
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: What did the idea come from? How are you making

634
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: how are you putting it together?

635
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: Were first talking about that. Yeah, yes, well basically, so

636
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: I'm sober. I was a hot mess when I was

637
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty twenty one. I was out here running the streets,

638
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: you know, because of my insecurities, because of I didn't

639
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: know how to fit in with these people trying to

640
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: I was really doing drugs and drinking and running the

641
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: streets out here. And I got sober and I was

642
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: twenty one years old, and so I'll have thirteen years

643
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 4: next month and November twentieth, that's my sobriety day. And

644
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: you know, I got sober through the Rooms of Alcoholics

645
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: Anonymous and there, you know, it's a lot of what

646
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: we do there is just we share our story and

647
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: you try to relate and then you share your experience

648
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of like just talking and relating, right.

649
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: So in that I have a beautiful community in LA

650
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: especially in the queer community. There's a lot of there's

651
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: a big sober queer community and they've shown me how

652
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: to be a man and grow up and they're the

653
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: ones who taught me drag and be of service and

654
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: you know, and how to be an adult. And I

655
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: was just thinking, like how can I bring that energy

656
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: into a podcast space for myself because there's a lot

657
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: of drag queens of that podcasts, but they're all about

658
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: drag race, so they're all about being you know, shady,

659
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: or they're all about just like opinion based about what's

660
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: happening in pop culture. And I'm like, what can I

661
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: do to create some healing within our community and then

662
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 4: even more so with you know, my POC community, because

663
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: that's who's watching, right, that's who's paying attention to me.

664
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: So let's create a dream of consciousness and like, you know,

665
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: mindfulness within our community. It doesn't have to be all

666
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: like g girl, grawl girl. You know that's in there,

667
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 4: in there, because that's entertaining. But I really want to

668
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: like create something a little more deep rooted that can

669
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: help the kid who's listening in Oklahoma who just happened

670
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: to come across my little podcast because he likes drag Queens.

671
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: You know.

672
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, well, maybe this can help them, you know,

673
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: be a little more mindful and conscious about what's going

674
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: on with their own thinking and their own selves. Because

675
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: I feel like I love like reading a book, like

676
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: a self help book and like universe God stuff, Like

677
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: I love that stuff. So I'm like, how can I

678
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: bring that into a space for podcasts within the Drag

679
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: Queen Realm platform that I have.

680
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: I love it. You described the show also as sort

681
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: of like an audio drama or like a radio.

682
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: Play a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like.

683
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: Tell us, tell us.

684
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: Well, it's just like, how can I create this world?

685
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: I love world building, right, Like I'm a theater girl.

686
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: At the end of the day. I love writing scripts.

687
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: I love creating experiences. So in this experience of this podcast.

688
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: Selena works at this radio station and she is getting

689
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: calls in like remember I don't know if y'all do

690
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: y'all know ninety four point nine it was a area

691
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: radio station, Wild ninety four point nine. It's the same

692
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: as like what they have out here. It's the one

693
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: O three two point seven Kiss FM. Yes, you know,

694
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: like when you're listening in the morning or just even

695
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: like the breakfast club, like like people call in and

696
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: like Ryan seacrests on the radio. Like I remember going

697
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: up listening to that, and it's like I was like,

698
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: what if it's a radio station and people are calling

699
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: in and with their problems and Selena's just like talking

700
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: back to them. But what I've created in this world

701
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: is Selena has this THEATA and she's the producer of

702
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: the podcast. And so she's on the other side of

703
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: the wall and she it's me an old lady Drag

704
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: and she is my grandma and my thea and she's

705
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 4: just like, ah, get pass up with that, like you know,

706
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: she's so like my Drag is truly inspired by like

707
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: actors like Robin Williams and Eddie Murphy and John Leguizamo.

708
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: Remember like Missus Doubt Fire and Resbutia, and like those

709
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: movies from the early nineties where these comedians where drag

710
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: were in drag playing these characters and these iconic movies.

711
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: That's very much what it inspires me. And then like

712
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: the humor comes from like Scary Movie and Hot Chick

713
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: and like those movies White Chicks, like very crass. That's

714
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: like where I get my humor from. That's what inspired

715
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: my drag right initially, and then I found really like

716
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: who Selena is by looking at my family and my

717
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: mom and my sister's mythas and so with all that combined,

718
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: I was like, how can I bring that comedy into this,

719
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: Like she's like the comedic relief is miscone cheat that

720
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: and this? And then what I'm building now too is

721
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: like I created a theme song for the podcast and

722
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: it starts out with like this trio because I'm like,

723
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: have y'all ever heard, like y'all know the Supremes, right, yes,

724
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: of course? Like is there Latina Supremes.

725
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: In Spanish?

726
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: Well, like in American pop culture, you know what I mean?

727
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: That doesn't really exist, not well, you know what I

728
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: feel like existed.

729
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: There was there were girl groups in the sixties and

730
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: seventies that maybe we just are not familiar.

731
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: With correct right, And I'm like, where are they?

732
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: Yes?

733
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: Because I love so when you think of like oldies

734
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: writ like low writer oldies, it's like it's like angel baby, right,

735
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 4: And I'm like, Latinos love these oldies. My dad listens

736
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 4: to old these while theys like working on the sync,

737
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm like, why are

738
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: we so attracted to oldies? And you know these doop

739
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: groups and these crooner songs, like why is that the vibe? Right?

740
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: You know? My parents love song is like always in

741
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: Forever by heat Wave, And I'm like, what if there

742
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 4: was a Latina version of like a Supremes. So in

743
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: my I'm working on a movie, musical, like writing a

744
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: script and so so many products I'm just like always

745
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: working on. So I'm like, what if there's these three

746
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: girls and you know, my grandma passed away recently and

747
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: Maria Kathman and her sisters all came here from Nicaragua

748
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: and their grandma or their mom used to make all

749
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: their clothes. And my dad just sent me some photos

750
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: of them and they are jo lads but like pristine

751
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: and these beautiful outfits walking down the street with the

752
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: cars behind them, and I'm like, these girls are sickening

753
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: in badass, like my my grandma was a you don't

754
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: mess with hers what it looked like, right, but cunty

755
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: and just beautiful. And I'm like, that's Selena is titties.

756
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: Like that's literally me. So I was like, what if

757
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: Gonchita in my podcast world was a part of this

758
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: girl group that existed, and that used to be the

759
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: recording studio they used to record in back in the day,

760
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 4: and now she works there and Selena, their granddaughter, is

761
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: doing a podcast. So I'm building this entire world, and

762
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: I'm building this musical about these three girls from the

763
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: sixties and I'm calling them. I'm Selena s Titties, so

764
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call them lost chee.

765
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: Cheese, Selena s chee chee cheez.

766
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 4: I love I love this world. I'm building a world

767
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens.

768
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: You know, that is so fun.

769
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: I love this. Okay. So that's what I love, love

770
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: love about podcasting and audio. It's that you can really

771
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: do what you want. You can create your own everything, right, Okay,

772
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: So the podcast Homegrow Hotline you're are people calling in

773
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: and so are these real stories or are these scripted stories?

774
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: No, they're real. So the stories are real.

775
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: So the stories are real, but the characters the world

776
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: that we're listening to that is like fiction.

777
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, like scripted, right, But we're both reacting to the

778
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 4: real life stories coming in. So it's like a combination.

779
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: Characters are reacting to the real story, the real world.

780
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like my goal, my goal I think is

781
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: like season one is just building the world. Season two

782
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: we have guests come in and interact with the voicemails

783
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 4: that come into the hotline and then like eventually live

784
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: shows and then who knows what happens from there, right,

785
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: So I'm really just trying to set the world right

786
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: now and see where that goes.

787
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: I love that so much.

788
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: It's so creative, it's such a good idea. Think it sounds,

789
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: it's so fun. And is this something that you're putting

790
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: on video or it's all audio.

791
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: It's going to be all all audio podcast platforms. But

792
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: then on YouTube, there's a video on YouTube on my

793
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: YouTube channel.

794
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, how fun?

795
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: Thank you.

796
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: I'm so excited and so okay, so that's the podcast.

797
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: You also have this documentary that you're working on, So

798
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: is that a self produced project?

799
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: Me?

800
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 4: All of this is out of my pocket.

801
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Yes, we get it, We get it completely.

802
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: Yes, man, it's crazy. Uh yeah, it's all me and

803
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess the sponsorships are cute, but that's

804
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: what we work towards, right, like totally. So we're building

805
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: that and getting that together, which was cool. Like before

806
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: my podcast has even come out, I've already got like

807
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 4: several sponsorships, so that's nice, So congradulation. I'm learning how

808
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: this all works and we're getting there and then yeah,

809
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: but it's hard, you know, I'm trying to self fund

810
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: all this stuff, especially right now there's not a lot

811
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: of work, especially in TV and film. It's so rough

812
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: out here. So I'm trying to make it happen.

813
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: And do people assume that, oh, you were on drag Race,

814
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: so you've got it made your fine?

815
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: Girl. The money's playing me like they're like, try to

816
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: charge me so much because they're like, oh, she's on

817
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: drag ra she has money, so that we can charge

818
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 4: her this much. And I'm like, Diva, can.

819
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: You, yeah, can you kind of demystify that for us?

820
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: So someone is on drag race, and then what happens.

821
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: So mind you, they have to pay a lot of

822
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: money for us to even get like to present something

823
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: on the show. Because what we present on the show

824
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: for drag race walking down the runway, we don't most

825
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 4: of us, we should be wearing that in real life,

826
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 4: but we want to really stunt and like show our

827
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: best on the show, So we hash out a lot

828
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: of money to just get prepared for the show. So

829
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 4: there's that. So we leave the show with debt, you know,

830
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 4: already from everything we made, so we're trying to pay

831
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 4: back all that stuff. It costs thousands of dollars, which

832
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: you know, I'm asking for friends, I'm saving up money,

833
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: and it's like we're still trying to pay it off.

834
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: And then you hustle, you hustle, hustle. You make your money.

835
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: Within that first year you're very hot, and then the

836
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 4: next season comes out and you're not so hot anymore

837
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: because it's the new girls are here, and then they're

838
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: booking all everything. So how do you stay relevant? How

839
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 4: do you keep the fans like paying attention in and

840
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 4: like wanting to invest in support your art. And it's

841
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: it's a struggle. It's hard. But I'm a hustler. So

842
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm out here hustling these streets making it happen. And

843
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: I don't know about a lot of other girls, but

844
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: I know it's not it's not easy, but a lot

845
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: of girls aren't doing or have the creativity to create

846
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: a lot of like what my ambitions have, you know?

847
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: So there are girls who are And I look at

848
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 4: girls like you know, Bob the Drag Queen want to

849
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: Exchange and Trixie Mattel, they're very successful, Bianca del Rio.

850
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 4: So it's like they're all you know. I actually signed

851
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: with management that there are a lot of them are

852
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: signed to because I'm like, I want to be like

853
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: those girls, So how did they get there? Right? So

854
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: I'm forging my little path and making that happen. And

855
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: I ended up signing with that management, and so it's

856
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 4: been it's been a journey and it's not it's not easy,

857
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 4: but it's part of the game, right. It's the hustle

858
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 4: out here, and people think it's Hollywood and make it.

859
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: No girl, it cost a lot of money. You got

860
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 4: a hustle. You gotta shake babies and kiss his hands.

861
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 5: Shake babies his hands, and shake babies shake hands and

862
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: kiss babies, you know, shake the baby, don't shake the baby.

863
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: For the record, I look at the don't shake the baby.

864
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Selena words of wisdom for aspiring drag

865
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: queens out there.

866
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 4: Oh, don't do it.

867
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: No.

868
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: I think it's like knowing who you are, right like

869
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: discovering who I am and like getting more proud with

870
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: that is allowing it to bleed into my art, And

871
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: I think that's something to people forget too, is like

872
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: it's an art form at the end of the day,

873
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: just how a screenwriter writes their scripts and puts themselves

874
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 4: into it, how a musician writes their music and puts

875
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: themselves and their feelings into their music. My drag is

876
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: a vessel for for who I am and what I'm

877
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: going through, you know, And drag race was an experience.

878
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: My experience at the time was learning how to be

879
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: more proud, to take pride in my latinus, and I

880
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: threw that into my drag. And right now, you know,

881
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: I'm honoring my grandma and my mom because my mom

882
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: and my grandma both passed away last year. So that's

883
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 4: really like bleeding into my art right now. Like with

884
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: those chee cheese my grandma. You know what I mean.

885
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: Having uh, you know, my podcast. I'm trying to take

886
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: from my experience with my sober experience, and I put

887
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: that into my podcast. How can I be of service

888
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: to someone else? And like, I'm taking all of who

889
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: I am into my art. So I think if you

890
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: want to any art form you want to do is

891
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: just knowing who you are will dictate who what your

892
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: art looks like, you know. But if you don't know

893
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: who you are, what's your art? What's your art doing?

894
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: You feel me? Absolutely?

895
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. So kind of just to wrap

896
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: up this conversation and bring it back to the top

897
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: of the conversation and the Purple Lily Awards, you talked

898
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: about how the theas and the primas in your life

899
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: created that space for you to be safe and to

900
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: be yourself. So can you talk more about that and

901
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: how that inspired Selena? I did.

902
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, like for me, my cousins scare me,

903
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: my male cousins, like my male cousins try to kill

904
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: me once, Like I remember my dad walked in and

905
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 4: he was like hanging me by a belt, you know,

906
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: and like cause I was playing with rugrats and me

907
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: and my cousin call my cousin Chris Angelica, and he

908
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: like flipped on us, and so I don't know, you know,

909
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 4: the straight boys they are a little Machi's more and

910
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 4: crazy and wild, and especially where we grew up, like

911
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: it was just wild. So I never felt safe with

912
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: the straight boys. And my family, you know what I mean.

913
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: And my cousin, my female cousins always, you know, we're

914
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 4: dancing to spice girls over here, we're over here singing

915
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: songs and playing with coloring books and stuff. So they

916
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: always created that safe space for me to just be

917
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: myself and explore my creativity too, and like we were

918
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: creative together. So and my you know, my mom my,

919
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: theias were always like, oh, do a little dance for us,

920
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: or like, you knowing, sing the song with her, and

921
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: like they just fostered that safe space for me to

922
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: be creative and myself. And I didn't realize that in

923
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: the moment, but I look back and I'm like, oh, yeah,

924
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: that's what they were doing when I couldn't be that

925
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: way when I was playing football because my dad wanted

926
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: to be playing football with the boys, you know, So

927
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 4: yeah that really I look back and I think, oh yeah,

928
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: these women really are the reason I am who I am.

929
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: And I was so like anti that for a long

930
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: time too, Like I didn't want to look at that.

931
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to let that be my narrative because

932
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 4: I'm like a'm bro mask, especially in the gay world,

933
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: trying to appeal to men and be like I'm sexy, right,

934
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: you like this, you like this. I'm gonna hide my femininity,

935
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: you know, because they don't like feminine guys, so I

936
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 4: have to be like super muchI small and like I'm

937
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: shoving down all that stuff that they created for me

938
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: to be myself. I'm shoving that away. So that was

939
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: all part of my drinking and my using, right because

940
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 4: I felt so uncomfortable with myself because I didn't know myself.

941
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 4: I was trying, I was not being myself right. So

942
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: this discovery of getting sober, learning who I am and

943
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: owning myself and being a little you know, like that

944
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: all makes me who I am. And I you know,

945
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: look where I'm at today.

946
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: It works amazing.

947
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: But I also have a pressent free gries, you have

948
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: shorter hair, so like a part of how I make

949
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 4: money and like you know, hustle is like I have

950
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: merchandise and I have an EP that came out in January,

951
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 4: my first little music project. Then I called it Homegirl

952
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: because my whole, like my mission with Selena A. S.

953
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 4: Titties is that she's your homegirl, right like in high school,

954
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: She's the girl that that was like, hey, you got

955
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: a pencil, and like she wasn't prepared, but she did

956
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: protect you with the football players walking by the hallway,

957
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: right like, don't mess with him. You know that's it's

958
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: my boy, like those girls in high school, my cousins

959
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: is who that is. That's why I wanted Selena to

960
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 4: be for anyone who feels like they you know, like

961
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: a little like don't have a voice. That's very much

962
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: me can't stand up for themselves. Selena's stand up for you,

963
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: and she represents that. Cause Selena is what I Jason

964
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: out of Drag is very insecure. I'm very quiet, I'm

965
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 4: very honed in. I'm very observant because I'm like observing

966
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: my surroundings, learning how to navigate through. Right, let me

967
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: suppress this so I can be this for you here,

968
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: so I can gain this and that that Jason's very

969
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 4: that Selena's like excuse me, I'm here, you know, which

970
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: is like what I crave to be out of drag

971
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: and She's given me the confidence to be that. So

972
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 4: Selena is that girl for me. She's your homegirl. So

973
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 4: I named my EP Homegirl, and my EP my music

974
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: project that I did in January was a homage to

975
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: like being at home girl, you know what I mean,

976
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 4: like my mom my home Selena Stitties.

977
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: Where can our listeners follow and support? Where can they

978
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: catch a show? Where can they and catch your new projects?

979
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: How can they follow you?

980
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 4: When is this coming out?

981
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: This is coming out next Wednesday.

982
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: Oh fantastic. So right now you can catch me. I'm

983
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: at Pasadena Playhouse. I'm doing Lakaja Fall. It's an equity theater.

984
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: It's like they won the Tony Award for the Best

985
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: Regional Theater in America. I'm doing a really big, high

986
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 4: scale production Lakajha Fall, taking Selena Stities on stage, musical theater,

987
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 4: going back to my roots, you know, with my BFA

988
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 4: musical theater. So I'm performing at Lakasha Fall the Pasadena

989
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: Playhouse November fifteenth to December twelfth. You can find me

990
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: there right now, and you can see me every Wednesday

991
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 4: on my podcast, the Homegirl Hotline on my YouTube panel,

992
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 4: and my Instagram is at s Titties and you can

993
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 4: buy my merch at stities dot com. Slash screaming we.

994
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: Have to have to go. We love you've been, Yes,

995
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: and for those listening, that's the bird Cage, but it's

996
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: the original stage play correct.

997
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's very French and like, oh we we.

998
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: Exactly.

999
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 4: How exciting.

1000
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: Congratulations, really fustling, you are doing the things things.

1001
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 2: And a true thespian, honestly lesbian thespian.

1002
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: It's very exciting. The Playhouse, Darling, the Pasadena Playhouse. It's

1003
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: so it's so interesting, right because I'm like I'm in

1004
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 4: these clubs like like like oh my titties, my titties,

1005
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: my titties. And then I'm like in this professional ass

1006
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: like like I'm in theater. Now I got to be

1007
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 4: a little more professional. But it's like I'm having such

1008
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: a beautiful experience, like like my talents really gets to

1009
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 4: shine through in this realm, singing and dancing, acting, all

1010
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: the stuff, being professional on time, knowing where i have

1011
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: to go. I'm like really showing a lot of my

1012
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: professionalism here. And it's paying off, and it feels so

1013
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: good to be respected and acknowledged. Like I keep saying,

1014
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: we're in the clubs, you know, the drunk tweak in

1015
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: the corner doesn't care if I'm on time, you know,

1016
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: Like it feels so good that I'm getting like that,

1017
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 4: I'm at this level right now. It's cool. It's cool.

1018
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: Congratulations. Oh we're so getting tickets.

1019
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm already the case is so cool.

1020
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: Like y'all ever watch Matt TV. Yes, Michael McDonald, look

1021
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 4: what I can do. He's in it. Paul Volt, Nicole Parker,

1022
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: like these Mad TV comedians and I'm I'm getting to

1023
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: work with them side by side. It's an honor to

1024
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: watch them work. It's like so cool, It's really really cool.

1025
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: How exciting. Well this has been I knew it would be.

1026
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: But a fabulous interview with selenas Titty.

1027
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 4: Sorry is so deep and somber, okerfect.

1028
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: That's what we do here.

1029
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 2: We love range.

1030
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: Thanks for letting me. Thank you for opening up your

1031
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 4: space to me, you know, my two powerful women right here,

1032
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 4: just creating the space for for your community and letting

1033
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: me be a part of it. And I appreciate it

1034
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: so much, and letting me share my experience with you

1035
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: and being open and you know, willing to listen to me.

1036
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, absolutely, thank you. Welcome back anytime down.

1037
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: I'll bring Selena next time for sure, like five full drag.

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00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's I don't know if you're holding.

1039
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's ready for it.

1040
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: Our engineer, Yeah, he's finey stuff.

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Speaker 1: Lok A Radio is executive produced by Viosa Fem and

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1043
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,880
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