WEBVTT - How Bitcoin Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know fromhouse Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and uh, this is Stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>and Lauren's territory. Yeah, and frankly, we're a little scared

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<v Speaker 1>of our cohorts at Tech Stuff. They do a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've gotten so many requests for this topic that

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, you know, we got we gotta satisfied

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<v Speaker 1>the Stuff you should Know fans. We don't want them

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<v Speaker 1>showing up with torches led by Moe the bartender at

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<v Speaker 1>our door. You know, you know, this might be the

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<v Speaker 1>most requested of all time. Possibly, Oh you think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it might be. I can't think of another one

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<v Speaker 1>that that comes to mind. That was maybe like mormon Ism, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mormonism apology. And I see accents a lot. People want

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the bottom of accents. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. We need to do that. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that now? Instead? Crikey, that's good. I could do.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad accents work? Do it? Do? Italian No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not to your monkey. That's good stuff. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're my monkey. It's that you do um

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<v Speaker 1>accents way better than me. No, meaning that I attempt

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<v Speaker 1>them and do with them poorly, where you you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even attempt them, and it is off the charts. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not bad, so chuckers. Yes, you know much about money? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>not much? No, No, I know that I got a

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<v Speaker 1>few pennies in the bank and that's about it. How

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<v Speaker 1>that works? Okay, Well, we've talked about money before. We

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<v Speaker 1>where where was it that the first a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>financial stuff? There was something we did recently where we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about how Mesopotamia the first system of wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>it like the first coinage in China? Of course too.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, nowadays, when we think money here in the U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>At least, and in Canada and actually pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>world because the world uses dollars um, we think of

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<v Speaker 1>paper money or coins printed by the U. S. Mint

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<v Speaker 1>at the behest of the U. S. Treasury on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States government banks are backed and insured. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that they're covered in case something goes wrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you and I are covering them buddy, Yeah, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't this system that we take very much

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<v Speaker 1>for granted now of you know ones, fives, tens, twenties, hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there were some other ones. This is fairly new.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just the beginning of the twentieth century that

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve was created. Before that and during the

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War era, I think maybe even post Civil War,

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<v Speaker 1>there was there more than eight thousand different entities, typically banks,

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<v Speaker 1>that we're printing their own currency. Yeah. Man, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that. What was that? Was that the barter thing? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but you're right, it's a great wall to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to because it's so interesting and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a bank, you can just be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bunch of gold here, I'll print some

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<v Speaker 1>money based on this, and I'm gonna put my picture

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<v Speaker 1>on it, or maybe a picture of my favorite horse.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a Jim At Fearson dollar exactly. See. Anyway, um,

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<v Speaker 1>all that went to the wayside when the Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 1>came about, and then everybody's like stop, just the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government can print money from now on, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>back it with golden and you know what, We're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna back with gold anymore. Let's just say you guys

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<v Speaker 1>believe this has value, will go with that. Well, at

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<v Speaker 1>that point that everyone's had bought in literally and figuratively,

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<v Speaker 1>so exactly, so we went from the gold standard to

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<v Speaker 1>a fiat currency, which is everybody, come make believe that

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<v Speaker 1>this actually has value, and it actually will have have value.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty magic. And that transition to a yeah currency

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<v Speaker 1>gave birth to what we're going to to talk to today,

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<v Speaker 1>or the possibility of what we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>about today, which is bitcoin, which is a real thing

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's you know, will it survive who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>But as of the recording of this podcast, it is

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<v Speaker 1>super legit and what about a billion dollars It may

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<v Speaker 1>in fact be too legit to quit. Maybe. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see an estimated value of all the bitcoins and circulation.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that, but it, as we will find out,

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<v Speaker 1>it fluctuates like on a minute to minute basiss next week. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you said, though, the whole thing hasn't crashed.

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<v Speaker 1>It may be what we're seeing is a bubble and

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<v Speaker 1>then another bubble and they just bubbles bursting. But the

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<v Speaker 1>system hasn't crashed, and that's because the system, the theory

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, and the practice it turns out is extremely sound. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's even more awesome about bitcoin, which is, we

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<v Speaker 1>should say the world's first digital, entirely digital, decentralized currency, um,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it has a great origin story. It's shrouded

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<v Speaker 1>in mystery. No one knows who created it, and the

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<v Speaker 1>things that it's used for it can be shady and weird,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all just very you know, some of it's

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<v Speaker 1>on the deep web, and it's just very interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>like salacious, and it's very anarchistic in nature. It's there's

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<v Speaker 1>no not only is it not backed by any government,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not issued by any central authority. Yeah, it's part

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<v Speaker 1>if you're part of the bitcoin network, then you are

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<v Speaker 1>part of this the authority to issue it. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually technically it's mathematics that has the authority to

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<v Speaker 1>issue bitcoins. Yeah. It took me while to wrap my

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<v Speaker 1>head around it because it's such an entirely new thing

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very complex. Yeah. And well, although it really

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<v Speaker 1>isn't like when you break it down, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>had to eventually figure out. I studied enough, or I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh wait, this is actually kind of simple

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<v Speaker 1>and at the root of it all, as who wrote this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's strickling, right, No, this is a Nathan Chandler. Um

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler points out, at the root of it all, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>all that you have to do to invent a currency

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<v Speaker 1>is have enough people say this is currency, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have currency. Whether, like I said, whether it sticks around,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. But as of now there are enough people

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<v Speaker 1>buying and selling bitcoins and use speculating and using bitcoins, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's trade. Then it's it's a thing. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that gives it value is that if there's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out there who's willing to accept that currency for

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<v Speaker 1>a pizza, then it has the value of a pizza

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<v Speaker 1>at least. Right, So let's talk about the origin first.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh sure, the origin. Back in two thousand eight, a

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious pseudonym popped up, uh Satoshi Nakamoto. And we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if this is a lady or a man, or

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<v Speaker 1>men or women or both, could be a group who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh they or he or she or it published

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<v Speaker 1>a document that outlined what bitcoin was said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a new thing that we or I or me are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to create. And I believe that person mented the

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<v Speaker 1>first fifty coins himself or herself or themselves. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was two thousand nine. And the document that that he

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<v Speaker 1>she that Satoshi published, um, it was really groundbreaking because

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<v Speaker 1>it it figured out a longstanding problem that was preventing

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<v Speaker 1>digital currency from being established. And that was what was

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent anybody from copying and pasting the code that

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<v Speaker 1>makes up your digital currency and then using it again

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<v Speaker 1>and again and again. Well, there's one easy way around it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a ledger, but you have to have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>you trust to keep track of the ledger. And what

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<v Speaker 1>Satoshi came up with and that what bitcoin does is

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<v Speaker 1>it makes the ledger entirely public, so that everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>working out the ledger and it's actually that process of

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<v Speaker 1>keeping track of the ledger and who has what coin

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<v Speaker 1>and what coin has been transferred to whom uh that

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<v Speaker 1>actually mints new coins. So we need to step back

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<v Speaker 1>and explain what's going on here, because I think people

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<v Speaker 1>are already confused. If you don't know what bitcoin is,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, what are these guys talking about? Bitcoin is

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<v Speaker 1>virtual money that you can now use online to buy

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<v Speaker 1>and sell things and there are a number of retailers

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<v Speaker 1>that are accepting this. Um, it's not just the deep web.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that in a minute. UM. And now

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<v Speaker 1>they're even go between companies that allow you to I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they uh not transfer, but they convert your real

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<v Speaker 1>dollars into bitcoins too. You know, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>shop at like Macy's, let's say they convert your bitcoins

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<v Speaker 1>into real dollars, bitcoins and real dollars the other way around.

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<v Speaker 1>And Chandler points out a good way to think of

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins is it's a digital standing for cash because it's anonymous, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the big key. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy things anonymously, or if you are a libertarian and

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to stick it to the government, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't trust the government, or you don't trust banks.

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<v Speaker 1>A big thing that um Nakamoto preyed on was the

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<v Speaker 1>financial collapse, obviously, and uh was basically like, hey, look around,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on, Like you're gonna trust your money there?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why not trust this new thing. Let's give it

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<v Speaker 1>a try. Let's give it a try. So basically, if

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<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of different things you can do,

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<v Speaker 1>you can either participate as just someone who buys bitcoins

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<v Speaker 1>with your credit card or whatever and then uses them

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<v Speaker 1>to shop. Chandler says that you can buy with credit cards,

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<v Speaker 1>but I saw from a couple of different sources that

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<v Speaker 1>like most places do not take credit cards, that you

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<v Speaker 1>either have to give them your bank account or else

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a way to pay cash, like using money. Graham, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's been the more preferred way as of late, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're still credit card people that will take a credit card.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first thing you need to do is set

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<v Speaker 1>up set up your wallet, and that is basically your account,

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<v Speaker 1>your digital account, and then you buy bitcoins and they

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<v Speaker 1>are in your account and you use them for whoever

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<v Speaker 1>takes them right, and you buy them from like a

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<v Speaker 1>central currency exchange, probably Mount Cox, although we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>them in a minute too, but they've been handling about

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<v Speaker 1>six of all bitcoin transactions. Um well, purchases of bitcoins

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Mount Cox typically, So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>one reason you might want to do this is if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't trust the banks, or you're tired of the

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<v Speaker 1>government getting involved in your money, or if you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to save some money. Because what you're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>you're skipping middlemen and so you're saving on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of transaction fees. Oh yeah, if you have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>purchased something overseas through PayPal? No, not overseas. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>it is expensive that pleas to Bitcoin has no central authority,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there's no bank you're dealing with, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be charged the bank's fees. And the transfer

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<v Speaker 1>companies that do work with bitcoin typically charge like two bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>three bucks something like that, So you skip all that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not paying as many fees. Uh. The wallet is

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<v Speaker 1>a software program, so it's not like a literal wallet. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>You download your wallet, you've got your little account, you

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<v Speaker 1>buy your bitcoins, and you can just do that if

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<v Speaker 1>you want. You can just buy things. You can buy

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<v Speaker 1>things on the regular web. You can buy things on

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<v Speaker 1>the deep hidden web. You can also just hang on

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<v Speaker 1>to them and speculate. Well, that's the second thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do. You can speculate and buy and sell the

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the Winkle Boss Twins the Winkleby the Winkelby from

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook movie. Uh, in real life? Are they have

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<v Speaker 1>like eleven million dollars worth of bitcoins now? And how

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<v Speaker 1>much it will be worth tomorrow? But yeah, they have

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars worth of bitcoins. Yes, so they're apparently

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly bitcoin millionaires that have made their money speculating by

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<v Speaker 1>buying and selling just like you would a stock, let's say. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's another thing you can do. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>you can do is actually participate in mind these coins,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sounds complex but it's really not. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into this because now we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin network, right, Yeah, it's a peer to peer we

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<v Speaker 1>should point that out. That's very important peer to peer network, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like bit torrent or Skype. Yeah, there's no centralized like

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<v Speaker 1>mainframe running this thing exactly. If the whole thing operates

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<v Speaker 1>on the computers of the people who are part of

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin network. That's right. Okay, So the mining is really

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<v Speaker 1>the most important, and I think that's where a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people get tripped up. There's three things basically that

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<v Speaker 1>mining coins. You're creating coins essentially, um you are, Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's get into it. They transactions are released in

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<v Speaker 1>six ten minute blocks, so every ten minutes now coins

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<v Speaker 1>are released into the system. That's the approximate about how

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<v Speaker 1>long it's been taking computers to figure out this mathematical problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're released every ten minutes, whether or not they're

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<v Speaker 1>figured out or not. Might it might take longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, well then you can explain this to me

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<v Speaker 1>because I was a little tripped up by this too.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So every ten minutes, the computer that happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be working on the math problem and solves it at

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<v Speaker 1>that ten minute part gets the coin. So is it random? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to step back again and explain

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<v Speaker 1>what these are. It is. It sounds confusing, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Every ten minutes they release what's called a block, and

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<v Speaker 1>a block is essentially a group of transactions across the

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<v Speaker 1>bit coin network. So it is up to a person,

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<v Speaker 1>but usually a group of people team up to do

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<v Speaker 1>this because it requires a lot of computing power two

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<v Speaker 1>perform um to basically handle these transactions, just like American

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<v Speaker 1>Express pay someone to handle their transaction. Totally got it,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, Thank you. This is the this is

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<v Speaker 1>what was tripping me up. Yeah, okay, okay. And then

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<v Speaker 1>that block is a group of transactions, right, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the transactions formed the ledger, like who has what coin?

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<v Speaker 1>What coin got transferred to what person? Like verifying all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. All that takes money. That's the usually those

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<v Speaker 1>are the fees you're paying like amex to do something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, right, okay, and this this is also encrypted information.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, that's the key. So that block is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a math problem for a computer to workout and everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So every ten minutes, everybody on the network gets that

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<v Speaker 1>same block, and whoever figures that out first gets the

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<v Speaker 1>newly minted bitcoins gets that reward. They call it a reward.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. That's pretty much it. So here's the thing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a diminishing return at this point. Um they have

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<v Speaker 1>it every four years. Every four years the number of

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins that are released. They're figuring out a math problem

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<v Speaker 1>is had. So when it started out, it was fifty

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<v Speaker 1>and now we just reached the four year point. Two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand thirteam is the beginning of the year, so now

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty five. When you unlock it, a block that's

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<v Speaker 1>right in two thousand seventeen will be twelve fifty. So

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<v Speaker 1>every ten minutes they're releasing these coins. So it has

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<v Speaker 1>two three functions. Really, it's a two to satisfy the

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<v Speaker 1>transaction and you know, get everyone working together is a

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<v Speaker 1>big group to make sure the transactions are good. It

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the ledger up to date, keeps the ledger up

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<v Speaker 1>to date too. It releases more money into the system. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, carefully planned out, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a very steady rise basically over the years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so nobody so like a central bank can't flood the

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<v Speaker 1>market with more money to devalue what's out there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you basically forty they know exactly how many coins will

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<v Speaker 1>be out there, and it will be twenty one million

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<v Speaker 1>on the nose. And then that's it. Yeah, it's all controlled.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the third thing it does, is it it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the system secure. Yeah, so that's what mining is.

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<v Speaker 1>And each block two uh, it's very energy inefficient. Each

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<v Speaker 1>block to fully satisfy over the course of twelve months

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<v Speaker 1>takes about ten tho dollars worth of electricity. I read

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<v Speaker 1>way more than that. I read a d fifty k

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<v Speaker 1>for block for twenty four hours of hardcore data mining

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<v Speaker 1>or of hardcore bitcoin mining. Sorry, costs up to a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thou dollars in electricity. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>but that's with one of these there's like certain computers

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<v Speaker 1>out there that people have set up that are dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>just to bitcoin mine because bitcoinshit like two bucks apiece

0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.400
<v Speaker 1>five of those puppies. That adds up. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get more and more and more, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>computers dedicated to it, then people have they're they're just

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin miners and they have computer systems or they're parts

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<v Speaker 1>of co ops that divide the bitcoin. Right. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the only way to do it now. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a single user, then you have virtually no

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<v Speaker 1>chance these days. I would imagine it just takes too

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<v Speaker 1>much computing power for that average you know, home computer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you team out, even if you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>great system, if you team up with ten people with

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<v Speaker 1>a great system, then you're ten times. It's likely because

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<v Speaker 1>that was the other thing that the number of bitcoins

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<v Speaker 1>that come out or had right. And um, the math problem,

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<v Speaker 1>the encrypted math problem that is released as a block

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<v Speaker 1>because is increasingly difficult. They wanted to be hard, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point. Um. And there was an article

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you read this that I sent

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<v Speaker 1>you that right now, you can still make money mining,

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<v Speaker 1>but it won't be long because it's a diminishing thing

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<v Speaker 1>before it's going to cost too much in power and

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<v Speaker 1>hardware to even make it worth your while. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of curious how that's gonna work out. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw like a computer built specifically to mind bitcoins started

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<v Speaker 1>about six grand on eBay and that's like, again, the

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<v Speaker 1>electricity involved this just ridiculous. Yeah. Plus, if you're splitting

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five bitcoins, I mean that ain't a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>dough right, Well, it depends, like we'll see. Yeah. Um

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<v Speaker 1>so so that's it. That's the network. That's how the

0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:48.359
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin network functions, right, Yeah, and it's beautiful. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about the elegantness of the figuring out a math problem

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to unlock new coins. Is what you're doing to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the ledger up to date, that's awesome. So like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's providing these three functions. And not only is an

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<v Speaker 1>open ledger, they have open source, so their their code.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a programmer and you know what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually look at their code and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's not like it's not a big deal. If

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<v Speaker 1>you understand their code, it's not like you can hack

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<v Speaker 1>into them. It's very secure on that side of things,

0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>but it can also be uh not secure. As we're learning,

0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.400
<v Speaker 1>hackers are now getting into like uh, the the like

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually convert your bitcoins into real cash, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are the places that are susceptible to being hacked

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, right right it is um just one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing about why it's secure or the in theory. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>when that computer figures out that math problem that unlocks

0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.919
<v Speaker 1>that block. Yeah, that what they came up with is

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<v Speaker 1>shared with every other computer in the network to verify

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<v Speaker 1>that this ledger is accurate and is that a hole? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why that's why it's secure, because everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's computer knows what's what, and if there's a discrepancy,

0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>then it has to be worked out. That's why a

0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 1>transfer bitcoins transaction can take a long time because it

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<v Speaker 1>has to go across all the network. Gotcha for a verification? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well that's cool, okay. But insecurity, well many

0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.600
<v Speaker 1>ways it can be insecure. Like we said, they can

0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>hack into like when you go to a like what's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the places they listed for um converting back

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<v Speaker 1>to cash? Um bit spin this one, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh what was the other one. Yes, bit pay and

0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:40.679
<v Speaker 1>bits spin. They convert your bitcoins into credit or whatever

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you can shop anyway, whatever, or or your local currency

0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like if you want to cash them out and get

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<v Speaker 1>your cash back, right, their companies that do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that apparently is where hackers can get in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can also get to Mount Cox, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the currency exchange, which apparently if you have an account

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<v Speaker 1>at Mount Cox, a lot of people are like, oh well,

0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.119
<v Speaker 1>this is like a bank. It's not like a bank.

0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 1>And whether it's Mount Cox or whoever, Um, that's a

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.960
<v Speaker 1>really bad place to actually keep your virtual currency. Because

0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 1>number one, since it's a decentralized system, anywhere where there's

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.119
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people's stuff parked, that's a target. And

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.159
<v Speaker 1>since there are fewer targets, that means that people can

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<v Speaker 1>get better at better at attacking them. Since a terrible

0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.399
<v Speaker 1>place to keep your your bitcoins. And then also a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those places, a lot of those currency exchanges,

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<v Speaker 1>if they go under, your bitcoins go with them. And

0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing where have your bitcoins are gone? They're

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<v Speaker 1>just gone and you don't have them any longer, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why if you have a bitcoin wallet or account.

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<v Speaker 1>You want a physically removable backup of them somewhere a

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.400
<v Speaker 1>flash drive or removable hard drive away from your computer,

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>so that if your computer crashes where Mount Cox goes under,

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.200
<v Speaker 1>or the FED swoop in and sees something or freeze something,

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you still have your bitcoins because you've got that that

0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.440
<v Speaker 1>account of it on your flash drive back. Yeah. I

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.720
<v Speaker 1>would back it up two or three times exactly. I

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.520
<v Speaker 1>did read one account of this guy that lost like

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.439
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred of him because his laptop crashed. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was early on, so he was just like

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<v Speaker 1>it was no big deal at the time because they

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<v Speaker 1>were like twenty cents apiece. But can you imagine No,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. So, I mean that's one of the dangers

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<v Speaker 1>of it and one of the risks. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about this whole speculation thing in the

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>wild ride a bitcoin, because it's like the wild West

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.919
<v Speaker 1>out there, so early on it and it's gone from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty cents at the beginning to hive about two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty dollars per bitcoin early this year, right uh

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eleven, it went from uh thirty

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:45.159
<v Speaker 1>dollars in the middle. I'm sorry, in two it was

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>worth a few cents. It rose to thirty bucks in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eleven, and then it dropped down towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year to two bucks. Like, currencies are

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.399
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to do that. That's and that's one of

0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the big problems is like it it cree's wildly all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place because of speculation. Yeah, some people are

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 1>attracted to that though. Yeah, like the cowboys are into that,

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like get rich really quick and get out right. But

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're the average person like buying some bitcoins because

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you're really you know, believe in the anarchistic sentiment behind it,

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>then you're you're really at the whim of speculators who

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>can gain this system fairly easily because they're the only

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.000
<v Speaker 1>ones who know how to do it. Because the community

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>is small enough well, and a lot of financial you know,

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>guru say it's a sucker's bet, and it's it's just

0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a bubble maker basically, is one one way to look

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>at it, at least for now, because it's too unstable.

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 1>It's like the Lawrence Welk show out there. Half of

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.640
<v Speaker 1>our fans are going, huh so the deep Web. We've

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.679
<v Speaker 1>mentioned a lot of people don't know this. I know,

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Matt Frederick of stuff they don't want. You know, like

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>three years ago, came up to me. I was like, dude,

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>check this out. The Silk Road and the deep web

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>is a web that's not accessible. You can't go to

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Google and type in deep web and say now I'm

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.440
<v Speaker 1>on the deep Web. You have to have like special

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.919
<v Speaker 1>software to take you to this deep web. Tour t

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<v Speaker 1>R and that's where bad things go on. Well, that's

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a that's a I think it's like an operating system

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that allows you to be entirely anonymous. And yeah, if

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't have tour, I don't think you can even

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>get onto silk Row. But if you did, would be

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a really bad decision because Silk Road is where you

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>go buy well, drugs, um, pretty much anything. I think

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>out of the thirty thousand things they offered, roughly twenty

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>of them were drugs. Yeah, and this is like there's

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>some dude in Chicago who's got a bunch of heroin

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>for sale, and you go use your bitcoins on Silk

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Road to buy heroin and emails it to you, and

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>your bitcoins are putting new an escrow account. And then

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.880
<v Speaker 1>when you say, oh, yeah, I got my heroine, thanks man.

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I just came out of like an eight day stupor

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>that the escrow account releases the bitcoins to the guy

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, and that is going on right now. But

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 1>now that guy has a little addendum that says, would

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you mind releasing before you do all the hair point exactly. Yeah,

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>don't forget um. But it's a thing like you can

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 1>buy like whatever you want. You can there are services

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that you can hire hitmen. Yeah, this really troubles me.

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.199
<v Speaker 1>And kidnappers and people to like rob someone's house or

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 1>burn down your house for insurance money like that can

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>hire someone black market reloaded is that? And then there's

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>another one called the Armory, which is apparently like an

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>arms marketplace and all of its all of this stuff

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>would not be possible were it not for bitcoin. And

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>you can understand that this has really kind of gathered

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the attention of the FEDS. Yeah, well it's attracted more

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>than the Feds. The Silk Road actually, as of about

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>two about a week ago, was shut down really by

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a unidentified hacker, basically a blackmailer named Lance G threatened

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to crash the site with a what's called a d

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>d o S Distributed Denialist service, which is I think

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>they basically flood your site so much that it's inoperable.

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>So Lance G whoever that is, threatened to crash the

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>side unless they paid five thousand dollars, which everyone was like,

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>that's a really weird small amount. And so they're thinking

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>it might be either some like not someone that's interested

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 1>in money, but someone that just wants to see it

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>taken down. And some people speculate that the US government

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>is actually behind that. Well, you know, some people actually

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 1>speculate that the US government is behind bitcoin as well.

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Either it's some genius economists, some genius mathematician, maybe somebody

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 1>who works for the government. Um or it's actually like

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a government project. That's one of the things. There's a

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>really really great article called the Rise and Follow Bitcoin.

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>It was from BuzzFeed, I believe, or wired when it

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.080
<v Speaker 1>was wired and um it was it wired and it's

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>just amazing. It's like a nice long form article. I'll

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>take you a little while to read, and um it's

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 1>from two th eleven, so like it's a little out

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>of date, like the big bubble hadn't happened yet, but

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean it talks a lot about Satoshi Nakamoto and

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 1>like who he is, who he could be, and all

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the wild theories running around. But it also gives you

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a really good explainer of bitcoin and how it how

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it operates. And Nakamoto supposedly got out too, if you

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>believe the story they tell you. Um, he's not like

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting on some pedestal getting rich. Supposedly he created this

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and then said now it is yours and got out.

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>But who knows. I have to get back to this

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>psy ops thing that we're working on in the Pentagon.

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So as of now, the Silk Road is shut down.

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it will pop back up or something like

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it will um pretty soon, you know. So the hacker

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>just basically crashed the site or disabled to I think

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>threatened to or maybe did. I'll have to look into that.

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it actually happened. And there was

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a D D O S attack on Mountain Cox as well. Yeah,

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know the problem is when you don't

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>have any uh anything back in your currency it you know,

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the value of bitcoin is plummeted when that happened because

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of your transactions were halted, right, which is this is

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the games that a speculator who's very I

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 1>guess hecker savvy. Where is a hacker? Let's call it

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that UM could do to manipulate the value of of

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is like attack Mount Cox, let the value plummet,

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>and then go to one of the other exchanges that

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>aren't crashed and buy a bunch of them there and

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>then just let everything go back to normal and let

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 1>the value rise once more. It's definitely not stable. No,

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it isn't. And um, you were saying that the silk

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Row got hit by a hacker. Well, the FEDS have

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>finally interviewed Vaned. A lot of people have been waiting

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>for this because you can buy drugs, you can get

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>around paying taxes, you can hire a murderer. You can

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 1>do all these things thanks to bitcoin. And now the

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the the Department of Homeland Security, right, not even the

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>i r S. Yeah, the DHS froze Mount Cox is

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the the parent companies accounts yesterday? Yeah right, Well this

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>should give you a good idea of how things are

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>not stable. On Tuesday in May fourteenth, that story broke

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that Mount Cox had been had been Did they shut

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>them down or did they just they froze some of

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>their accounts, and it was so a lot of like

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 1>the transfer companies, the companies that work with mount Cox

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>saying like, we're not doing anything with mount Cox anymore.

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to make some purchase or whatever,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to figure out another way or use

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody else. So that happened yesterday. At the same time,

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>another story was released yesterday that uh a startup will

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>someone who funds startups is investing three dollars into bitcoin Um.

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>They're interested in h making it easier to spend bitcoin currency,

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>They're making security better. They think those are good opportunities. Basically,

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I make money on those are huge problems that this

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>currency has right now. So in the same day the

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>FEDS shut down mount Cox, one company invested three d

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>fifty grand and yesterday CNN money Um global risk strategist

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Ian Bremer said predicted the end of bitcon, So that

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>just shows you like no one knows. He said, I'll

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>be highly surprised if this is around in ten years.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>And what he thinks is going to happen is this

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is the first one and someone's gonna learn Bitcoin will

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>not be around, but something else will pop up that

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>does it better and that may last exactly. Like somebody

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in one of the articles we I think we researched

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>UM said, you know, bit Torrent wasn't the first P

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>two P file sharing network, and Skype wasn't the first

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>V O I P network exactly, so Bitcoin may not

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>be the first one. And there's a lot of rivals

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>just waiting to take over if coin falls. But the

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it seems like the precedent has been established and it's

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>been shown like this can work. Whether or not it

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>will be allowed to work is a big question because again,

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the Feds can always step in and shut down whatever

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they want if if they want to go after a

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Mount Cox, they can do that. Well, yeah, and the

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>big boys are already getting involved of course. Um. Amazon

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>now has Amazon coins that you can buy for the

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Kindle network and spend them like money. So you realize

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about is the same thing that was

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>happening post Civil War in the US when eight thousand

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>different banks Russuman currency. That's what we're seeing right now,

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>but in a digital form. This is the beginning of it.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, it's the wild West. It's pretty awesome. UM.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Aside from the Hitman, Yes, I don't think I have

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>anything else. Did you hear people get it? You know,

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy from the lead singer of As I Lay Dying,

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that metal band, I don't know them. He uh. He

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>got set up trying to buy a murder for hire

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>from an undercover detective to murder his ex wife through

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin or just back full of cash. Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, Yeah,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough one to get away with, although maybe

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:17.959
<v Speaker 1>people get away with him and you just never hear

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>about it. Yeah. I hope it's a tough one to

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>get away with. That definitely should be hard to get

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>away with. Yeah. I think the moral of the story

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>is kill someone yourself. Just kidding. Um. So, if you

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>want to know more about bitcoin, it's it's pretty interesting

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of really great writing all over

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the web about it. Yeah. I would first go to

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>our beloved How Stuff Works, type that word in the

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>search bar, then maybe start next at Wired. The Economist

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>has a good explainer. Mother Jones has some good stuff

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>on it. Go check it out or check the news feed,

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>because literally every day you're gonna get some new changing story.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, by the time this is released, there may

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>not be any bitcoins in two weeks. Who knows, but

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>there will be yeah, I hope so, or else they're

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to add an e D to how bitcoin worked?

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any? Have you bought any? No? I

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>mean I'm the fool. I think I said a search

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>bar in there somewhere. So that means it's time for

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a message break right, that's right, and then a really

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>good listener mail. I now, Chuck, it's time for listener mail.

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir. This is from pink Chris Pinkerton, who

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>has been a fan of our Showa very beginning and

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>active on our Facebook and the famous detective and a

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>good guy. That's right. So this is about e c

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>t RT electro convulsive therapy podcast that just dropped in

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>real time and uh he has a story. While in

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>high school, guys in Omaha, Nebraska, I met two girls,

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Gloria and Susan. For about three years, we were inseparable.

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>We would hang out after school party together. Glory and Susan.

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We're even closer and sometimes I was just a third

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>ill another feeling buddy. Yeah. Uh. The girls, being a

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>year younger than I, stayed in school when I was

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>shipped off to join the marine corps or not what

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>shipped off. He chose to go shipped out. Yeah, we

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>lost touch, but then eventually I moved back to Des Moines, Iowa,

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and I found Susan living there as well. She informed

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>me that should call Gloria and fill her into the

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>misyears while I was away. Apparently Gloria had a daughter

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>who passed away under terrible circumstances and became very depressed

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>after the loss of her daughter, and Um actually had

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to undergo ect treatment for depression. In your podcast, you

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>stated there slight memory loss, but in my experience that

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is an understatement. Gloria had no clue who I was,

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>did not remember any of our high school years. Gone

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>were the memories of harassing teachers, making out in the auditorium,

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and memories of working on my car in shop class.

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Apparently she was pretty good with a wrench, So we

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>get to tell her all over again. Uh yeah, Um.

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>As it turned out, she had forgotten Susan as well,

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>but not as much as she had forgotten me, because

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Susan was there for her throughout the treatment, and Gloria

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>has been able to recall more memories. Have heard you

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to this. It's very sad. To me that I've lost

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>a friend. Um, not because of intent, but due to

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a treatment I failed to help her through and failed

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to understand. That is one regret I will always have,

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>and it shames me to think that she has no

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.439
<v Speaker 1>clue who I am and how important to my life

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>she was. Ever since, I vowed to tell people how

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 1>important they are to me in case they never remember,

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>at least all know that I tried to explain that.

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And uh, Pink, let yourself up, buddy, Um, you were

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 1>in the Marine Corps. You were serving your country and

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a very unfortunate series of events, and so um,

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>take that off your shoulders. I say, uh. And Chris

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>goes on to say, enjoy your day, guys, smile and

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>have fun. And that is Chris Pinkerton and Demine, ps,

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>could you tell Jill Marie McFadden that she has a

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>love of my life? I think you just think, yeah,

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>exacinitely done. Thanks for the words, pink. He's always super

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>supportive and like just my sky. Yeah, clearly, Yeah, thanks

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot, pink. Um, that's a wow. If you have

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:08.840
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