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Speaker 1: this is the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Terry Fondo told us Steve on this very show

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Speaker 2: that he was going to be aggressive going after the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position, and oh was he ever?

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Speaker 3: Let him Cook?

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Speaker 2: Cook gave her cousins. Welcome back into the NFL Report,

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Speaker 2: James Palmer, Steve, which with you. We have a monster show,

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Speaker 2: The Condor Max Crosby star for the Vegas Raiders. I

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Speaker 2: must say Open Raiders. Las Vegas Raiders is going to

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Speaker 2: join the show. Baldy returns from his quest around the

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Speaker 2: world as Baldi's favorite films returns. We also have Nicki

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Speaker 2: Gavala from The Washington Post, who covers the Commanders better

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Speaker 2: than anyone. Will also have Mike Garratfullo the NFL Reports

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Speaker 2: NFL Insider on what's going on with the linebacker and

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Speaker 2: safety markets. But Steve, we saw Terry Fonto there. Who

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Speaker 2: won free agency or I guess I should say who

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Speaker 2: made their team better?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not.

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Speaker 4: Gonna We're not to judge who won free but Terry's cooking.

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Speaker 4: Terry's cooking, he gets Kirk Cousins. I think that's good

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Speaker 4: enough to go take a team from seven to ten

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Speaker 4: They trade Desmond Ridder for ron Dale Moore, a potential

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm gonna say Atlanta JP, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'll go with the Houston Texans getting the Deil

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Speaker 2: There's a chance there. And then the middle of the

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Speaker 2: Joe Mixon. I think they made themselves love that team

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Speaker 3: Yeah, b okay, okay.

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Speaker 4: We started things off talking about the teams right that

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Speaker 3: No, it was Matt Jones. These were guys like you know,

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Speaker 4: Winston, Mark Mariota, the backup quarterback market in the fact

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Speaker 4: the NFL, went and got themselves backup quarterbacks after seeing

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Speaker 4: So the premium, and we have talked about this on

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Speaker 3: But Jay p look at this is on the gate.

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Speaker 3: So again, I enjoyed the team's paying attention to it.

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Speaker 2: Deeper than just your backup quarterback. I'm going to look

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Speaker 4: The money is supply and demands driven when it comes

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Speaker 3: That's part of it as well. I saw your finger.

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Speaker 3: You got something to say.

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Speaker 2: the best in the game in Max Crosby, The Condor

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Speaker 2: coming up on the show next. He's gonna join us

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Speaker 4: James Palmer JP. We are joined by two superstars right

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Speaker 4: now as Brian Baldinger is in the house, as is

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Speaker 4: his dude, the man he brought the Moniker to the Condor,

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby.

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Speaker 4: Max, thanks so much for joining us, Baldy, thanks for

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Speaker 3: Okay, Max, let's.

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Speaker 4: Get this started. We're gonna we're gonna get the free agency.

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Speaker 4: The Raiders were active out of the gate. They got

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Speaker 5: Yeah, super excited about it. Obviously, Christian hell of a player.

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Speaker 5: So it's super exciting. Man, he's a hell of a player.

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Speaker 5: He brings all the energy in the world, and those

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Speaker 2: All right, Max, I'm not gonna get entirely away from

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Speaker 6: We go anyway, dude, nice Crosby so damn angry, right,

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Speaker 6: I like the thing is like he's not I know, right,

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Speaker 7: it is awesome. You know there's a guy's you know,

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Speaker 5: Excited to be with him. Christian.

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Speaker 7: Some of the best you know talkers. I've been around

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Speaker 7: I'm super excited about it.

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Speaker 5: Max.

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Speaker 2: Reach out to him and talk about what happened? And

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Speaker 2: Who is the better trash talker between you and your

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Speaker 5: To answer that question, you know, I'm auld humbly say myself.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Mack, speaking a different breed this off season, right

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Speaker 2: So I got, I got, I got two parts for you.

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Speaker 5: What you do on a daily basis, when you're in

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Speaker 5: that building, when you're in practice, when you're in the

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Speaker 5: weight room, when you're on the if you're not doing

435
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Speaker 5: if all those things aren't right, then you're not going

436
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Speaker 5: to go out there and be at your best. And

437
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Speaker 5: to Tyree is a guy who wants to be great.

438
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Speaker 5: He works at it, He's been working at it, and

439
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Speaker 5: he understands what it takes to do it on a

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Speaker 5: daily basis, and I try to. I'm constantly showing him

441
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Speaker 5: that and other guys are also doing it, and Tyree

442
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Speaker 5: is a part of that. Now he's a part of

443
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Speaker 5: our family and he's going to be a great player

444
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Speaker 5: in this league. He's a guy that's got all the size,

445
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Speaker 5: all the ability. It's just about putting it together. And

446
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Speaker 5: everybody's timeline is different. Some people come right out the

447
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Speaker 5: gate and have, you know, instant success. Some people it

448
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,719
Speaker 5: takes five years, some people it takes two years. It

449
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Speaker 5: doesn't matter. At the end of the day, when you

450
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Speaker 5: come to a building, it's a fresh start, no matter

451
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Speaker 5: if you're the number one pick or you're undrafted. The

452
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Speaker 5: work starts when you get in the building. And Tyree

453
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Speaker 5: understands that. Now. He's a great kid. I love being

454
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Speaker 5: around him. I give him a hard time every single day.

455
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Speaker 5: It's constantly bothering him and where are you at, what

456
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Speaker 5: are you doing, what are you eating? But it's because

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Speaker 5: I care and I want him to fulfill his full

458
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Speaker 5: potential like he wants to. So, yeah, you know, I

459
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Speaker 5: take a lot of responsibility in that Max. Real quick.

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Speaker 8: My last question to you. You know, you've had a

461
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Speaker 8: drastic lifestyle change, and part of that change in the

462
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Speaker 8: commitment to becoming the best player.

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Speaker 5: To ever played that position. What you're doing right now.

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Speaker 8: It kind of started with when you watched the last

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Speaker 8: dance of Michael Jordan and how you said, this is

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Speaker 8: how I want to live my life. I want to

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Speaker 8: be this guy. Can you just share, you know, if

468
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Speaker 8: you go through the whole story matter, we can share

469
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Speaker 8: a little quickly about what that did to you, you

470
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Speaker 8: your wife and really the whole direction.

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Speaker 5: Of your life. Yeah, you know, to give you a

472
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Speaker 5: quick summary, After my second year in the league, that

473
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Speaker 5: was the first year I got sober, so I had

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Speaker 5: about a year under my belt. I just finished my

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Speaker 5: second year in the league. I had was playing through

476
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Speaker 5: a torn labram, I had a broken hand and I

477
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Speaker 5: had to get surgery on both. So right after that

478
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Speaker 5: second year, the COVID year, I went out to LA

479
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Speaker 5: had to get those surgeries and I was in a

480
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Speaker 5: hotel my wife for about three days and we literally

481
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Speaker 5: sat and watched the last dance from starting to finish,

482
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Speaker 5: and I was just sitting there and I was disappointed.

483
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Speaker 5: I know, I took a step back in my second year.

484
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Speaker 5: I wasn't as good as I was there, but I

485
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Speaker 5: watched that I was so inspired by it that I

486
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Speaker 5: literally I went back and I'm like, Babe, I'm changing everything.

487
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Speaker 5: I'm going back. I'm ana civil with nutritionness. I don't

488
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Speaker 5: care how the food tastes. I want to be the

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Speaker 5: best version and put everything that needs to be put

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Speaker 5: into my body. I want. I'm gonna go to the

491
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Speaker 5: strength staff. I'm gonna say, listen, what do I need

492
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Speaker 5: to do to become the best version of myself? And

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Speaker 5: I put the trust in everybody in that building because

494
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Speaker 5: I want. I know I made it this far by

495
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Speaker 5: just being just the ability I was. I was blessed

496
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Speaker 5: with and my love for the game, but I didn't

497
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Speaker 5: have everything else in a row. So after seeing that

498
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Speaker 5: last dance, I was like, why can't I do this?

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Speaker 5: Why am I not in the conversation with TJ Whyt

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Speaker 5: Why am I not in the conversation with Bosa. I

501
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Speaker 5: should be in that conversation. There's no excuse, and it's

502
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Speaker 5: been over three years now, and I've completely changed the

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Speaker 5: outcome of my career. I'm going in a direction that

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Speaker 5: I know I'm I'm supposed to be at because I

505
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Speaker 5: do it every single day. I'm in there at six

506
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Speaker 5: in the morning and off season every single morning, and

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Speaker 5: I'm putting in work and focus on every little detail

508
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Speaker 5: I could possibly focus on and improve in every single day.

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Speaker 5: So that you know that inspired me. I got Michael

510
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Speaker 5: Jordan literally tatted on my torso, like that's a guy

511
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Speaker 5: that I inspire to be like because he wasn't the

512
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Speaker 5: man at one point he had to go through he

513
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 5: got cut in high school and went through everything he

514
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Speaker 5: went through just by being ultra dialed in and every

515
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Speaker 5: single way and having the mindset that nobody's going to

516
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Speaker 5: stop me unless it's me, and you've got to face

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Speaker 5: the man in the mirror every single day, and that's

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Speaker 5: the way you become the best version of yourself. So

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Speaker 5: for me, you know, he inspired in so many ways.

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Speaker 5: And ironically, I just you know it's about to get announced,

521
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Speaker 5: but I just signed with Jordan as well, so it's

522
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Speaker 5: a full circle moment and h you know, lessing and

523
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Speaker 5: super fired up man, and I know I'm not at

524
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Speaker 5: my best yet. That's what motivates me every day. You know,

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Speaker 5: I know where I'm going, I plan on being the

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Speaker 5: best I ever do it, and uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 5: a it's a one day at a time process back.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just getting totally inspired by like just hearing that.

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Speaker 4: You know that that story is amazing. Congrats on the

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Speaker 4: deal with Brand Jordan. And you know one thing I know,

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Speaker 4: you launched the Max Crosby Foundation this year as well.

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Speaker 4: Your inaugural foundation dinner is Thursday night. I want to say,

533
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Speaker 4: isn't it like the UFC headquarters out there in Vegas?

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Speaker 4: Tell us a little bit about your foundation and why

535
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Speaker 4: you felt now was the right time to launch it

536
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Speaker 4: to help improve the lives to so many other folks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's everything to me. I know how many people

538
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Speaker 5: helped me when I was at my lowest, and that's

539
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Speaker 5: what I want to do, is get back to others.

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Speaker 5: I just had I just celebrated my four years of

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Speaker 5: sobriety this past weekend, and it just I had all

542
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Speaker 5: the people that have helped me the most in that room,

543
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Speaker 5: that have understood what I had to go through to

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Speaker 5: be where I'm at and it was one of the

545
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Speaker 5: coolest moments I've had. So this foundation is focused on

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Speaker 5: you know, teen substance teen substance abuse and also animal rescue,

547
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Speaker 5: something that you know, it's close home with me. I

548
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Speaker 5: got three pitbulls, two rescues of my own, so it's

549
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Speaker 5: something I really care about. And you know, the UFC

550
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Speaker 5: APEX we're gonna be having that dinner at Thursday night,

551
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Speaker 5: which is which is tonight. And Dana White is a

552
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Speaker 5: super super close friend of mine, a dude who took

553
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Speaker 5: me under his wing since since I got out here

554
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Speaker 5: in Vegas, so he opened up his house for me.

555
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Speaker 5: He's going to be there as well, and you know

556
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Speaker 5: a lot of great people. So we're super fired up

557
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Speaker 5: for it and we're going to be you know, catching

558
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Speaker 5: some tracks, handing out you know, some donations, and doing

559
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Speaker 5: a lot of things in the community here in Las

560
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Speaker 5: Vegas and also in Michigan and Texas another place around

561
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Speaker 5: the country as well. So yeah, it means a lot

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Speaker 5: to me. It's everything, and I feel like this, you know,

563
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Speaker 5: everything is about timing and life and you can't rush

564
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Speaker 5: to anything, and also you don't want to wait too

565
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Speaker 5: long either, you know. For me, I wanted to do

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Speaker 5: it the right way. I want to have the right

567
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Speaker 5: people behind me. And like I said, like we talked

568
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Speaker 5: about before the show, Bert is incredible. He's he's running

569
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Speaker 5: the show, and my wife as well is helping out

570
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Speaker 5: a ton. So I got a bunch of great people

571
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Speaker 5: and a great team around me to go out there

572
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Speaker 5: and maximize this opportunity to help others. So we're super

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Speaker 5: fired up about it.

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Speaker 3: Well done, Well done, brother.

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Speaker 5: I love it. I love it. Max.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for everything you're doing. You guys

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Speaker 2: can see at the bottom of the screen Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: Foundation dot Org. And it's just the start of that,

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Speaker 2: but it's not the start of what you've been doing

580
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Speaker 2: giving back. I remember last time I saw you in

581
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Speaker 2: person was on the field at the Super Bowl. You

582
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Speaker 2: being honored as the Walter Payton Man of the Year

583
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Speaker 2: nominee for the Las Vegas Raiders. So Max, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Enjoy the dinner. If you

585
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Speaker 2: got three extra spots, I know there's a lot of

586
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Speaker 2: flights to Vegas for all three of us. Maybe we

587
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Speaker 2: can get there in time. I don't know, you know,

588
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Speaker 2: maybe three of us can join You appreciate you joining

589
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Speaker 2: the show though, Buddy, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Max.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys are the best. Appreciate it.

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596
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Speaker 2: that Max might be chasing down? Which quarterback? Will it

597
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: be for the New York Football Giants? Could it be

598
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones? Could it be Drew Locke? We'll find out

599
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Speaker 2: for Mike Garrifolo next on the NFL Report. Oh, it

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Speaker 2: just feels so good to have the NFL Reports NFL

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Speaker 2: Insider Mike Garriffolo back, Mike, thank you for joining us.

602
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Speaker 2: And I just have to start with this. How many

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Speaker 2: hours have you slept in the last Let's see from

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Speaker 2: Sunday to we're taping on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Now, you know there's real journalism happening out there about

606
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Speaker 1: many important things. I don't want to make it sound

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Speaker 1: here's what I love, though, it's over quickly. Like when

608
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: I work out, I'd rather do the sprints. Point, I'd

609
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Speaker 1: rather do the sprints than the long distance running. Like

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Speaker 1: I really feel for the baseball writers Lake Snell has

611
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Speaker 1: even signed yet, like this is a six month or

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Speaker 1: fourth let's see seven January a four month process, and

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Speaker 1: they're just like on on alert at all times for

614
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Speaker 1: four like ours is a blitz, but it's done in

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Speaker 1: like three to four days.

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Speaker 2: We're already winding down.

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Speaker 4: So to that point, Mike Gee, we've seen, you know,

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Speaker 4: we've seen a lot of things. We saw backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: come off the board. We saw guards come off the board.

620
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Speaker 4: But then some of the off ball linebackers, and this

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Speaker 4: is always just such an intriguing position how teams value them.

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Speaker 4: This has really been kind of a trickle with some

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Speaker 4: of these guys, Patrick Queen, Frankie Louvu. You know, some

624
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Speaker 4: of these guys got multi year deals. But what about

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00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: that market and the pacing of it and why there

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Speaker 4: really it hasn't been so much a lot of big

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Speaker 4: money spent there.

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Speaker 1: I should say, I don't know, because you know, Ziir

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Speaker 1: Franklin did an extension before free agency and it came

630
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Speaker 1: in just north of ten million dollars per year, and

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Speaker 1: I actually was expecting a bunch of because there's nothing

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Speaker 1: agents love more and tearing down other agents deals right

633
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: as expecting a flood of texts to be like, oh

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Speaker 1: got awful dealble because you know, whether it's it's not

635
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Speaker 1: not that I'm comparing him to these guys, but Jack

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Speaker 1: Leonard CJ. Mosley is the one that really blew the

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Speaker 1: top off the market. The one year got up to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So it's been seventeen. Rokwan Smith and Leonard around eighteen

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00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, and these guys are now like it's And

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Speaker 1: so I checked in with a couple of ages. I'm like, hey,

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00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: this deal here. They're like, no, it's a good deal.

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Speaker 1: These guys are not going to get paid what they

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Speaker 1: used to get paid. And I don't know why this

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00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: market settled back down. And you know, Patrick Queen pays

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Speaker 1: the market for some of these linebackers and he's at,

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Speaker 1: you know, eleven million dollars per year. I want to say,

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00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: are a little higher than that, maybe twelve somewhere in

648
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Speaker 1: that area. And it's only the dealers only structure it.

649
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Speaker 1: They guarantee the first year, so it's not a high

650
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: guarantee or any of this stuff.

651
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Speaker 2: So the off the.

652
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Speaker 1: Ball linebackers, some team's really pouring resources into it. And

653
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Speaker 1: then this market for whatever reason. And sometimes, by the way,

654
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: when I see that, I go, oh, must be a

655
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: strong draft class at a certain position, which is not

656
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: a strong running back class, which is why those guys

657
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: got paid. But yeah, that kind of surprised me that

658
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: that market kind of settled back down again.

659
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Speaker 2: I kind of want to stay there, Mike, because I

660
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Speaker 2: look at the four teams that were left at the

661
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Speaker 2: end of this past season, and all of them had

662
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Speaker 2: a really good linebacker. Course, And I remember having a

663
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Speaker 2: conversation in Baltimore in the locker room with Steve Spagnolo

664
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Speaker 2: was saying, my defense just doesn't work without a linebacker

665
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: like Nick Bolton running it in the middle of my defense.

666
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: This is kind of a copycat league. Why aren't people

667
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: seeing that as one of the best defenses out there

668
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: starting to value this position in terms of dollars when

669
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Speaker 2: it's valued in terms of player. Why doesn't it add

670
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Speaker 2: up in certain positions like this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm guessing that Nick Bolton's agent is hearing this

672
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Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, let's hope that well, maybe you spoke

673
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: a little Yeah, maybe Spags he goes and gets a

674
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Speaker 1: head coaching job, And that's the guy that he'll pay

675
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Speaker 1: when he's a free agent to get over there, or

676
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: maybe Spaggs is still in Kansas City and say, hey,

677
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: you know how important he is, dear defense. Don't forget

678
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Speaker 1: about that. So you know, some teams are going to

679
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Speaker 1: value it. Teams are going to say that this is

680
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Speaker 1: what we do. When the Ravens did the whole thing

681
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Speaker 1: with Roquan it was because the Bears at the time

682
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Speaker 1: weren't willing to invest that kind of money and off

683
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Speaker 1: the ball linebacker, and the Ravens did.

684
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Speaker 2: And I do remember a GM.

685
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Speaker 1: That I pretty much respect and have a good opinion

686
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Speaker 1: for what he does is it's like, you can't you

687
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: can't pour that kind of money into that position.

688
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: They did. It's their philosophy.

689
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: It fits what they do.

690
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Speaker 1: You got to pay what fits your franchise and your

691
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Speaker 1: coaching scheme at the time.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd say one position again that falls in line

693
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Speaker 4: with that is safety. So you have some teams who

694
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Speaker 4: really value the safety position, especially now the most teams

695
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: are playing more and more teams are playing a three

696
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: safety thing, and then.

697
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Speaker 3: Others, like this year, that's not the case.

698
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: So the Bills basically cut their safety squad three deep

699
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: and let those guys at the market. Now this the

700
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: safety market is still rather saturated.

701
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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of these guys who did get paid

703
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: on the market, the free agent market, I think we're

704
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: expecting some higher deals than they actually got. Know, Xavier

705
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: McKinney did well. Kyle Dugger with the Patriots was an

706
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: interesting one because I think the rest of the league

707
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: got the impression that no matter what they offer Dugger,

708
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to match it, and that's why

709
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Speaker 1: they put the transition tag on him at around thirteen

710
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: million dollars in exchange and change. My understanding is they

711
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: were trying to get a deal done at thirteen So

712
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: at this point, if you're Dugger, you know, maybe you

713
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: sign the tag. You could even play on it if

714
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: you want. Because a lot of times these markets, and

715
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle market is one of them, there are

716
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Speaker 1: certain guys now that are starting to get paid after

717
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: they did smaller deals, shorter deals, and all of a

718
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: sudden they come up and it's like, wait a minute,

719
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: this guy only got three a couple of years ago. Well,

720
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: you know what, he's healthy, he produced, and all of

721
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, teams are putting more money into that right now,

722
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: and those guys are getting to Sheldon Rankins got a

723
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: huge deal. He's glimbing the ladder as he's gone. Along

724
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: with regard to how much money he's gotten now, he

725
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: was coming off in Achilles the first time, and he

726
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: is coming off I believe six sacks this year. So

727
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: a lot of times about the timing and what's happening

728
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: in the market at your position.

729
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know there's not a whole lot of

730
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Speaker 2: defense and some tackles coming out of this draft, at

731
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: least from who I'm talking to, doesn't think it's the

732
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: deepest draft in that sense. That probably helps guys like

733
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Sheldon Rankins out there. And you're sitting there in Hoboke

734
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: and Mike, I have to ask you about one of

735
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: my favorite guys in the league, Drew Locke, coming to

736
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Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants. Was that one of the

737
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: ones that kind of surprised you a little bit, going, well,

738
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Speaker 2: this is a guy that maybe has a chance week

739
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: one to be their starter after kind of getting his

740
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: career back together in Seattle. It was not on my

741
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: radar at all.

742
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: In fact, I had had people say if Andy Dalton

743
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: gets moved from Carolina, which the indications are that's not

744
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: going to happen at this point. I don't know if

745
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: it ever was in the Cars.

746
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: I know they value him highly.

747
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: Look for Drew locked tohead to Carolina because of the

748
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: connection with Dave Canalis and all that stuff and whatever.

749
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: So when it.

750
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Speaker 1: Happened, I was kind of surprised at the team. But

751
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: then the more I thought about it, I'm like, you

752
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: know what, Drew Locke played well that Monday night game

753
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: where he came in for Gino Smith right off the

754
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: bench and played well a lot of time. How do

755
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: you get signed by a team and paid good money

756
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: by a team play well against them the previous season.

757
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: That's what happened with Drew Locke.

758
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: And I also did expect the Giants at some point

759
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: to add a veteran option, and it doesn't.

760
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: You're seeing that six pick.

761
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: In the draft right there in your screen.

762
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't procrude them from taking a quarterback in the draft,

763
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: and it doesn't preclude them from starting Daniel Jones week one.

764
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 3: I mean it sort of semi.

765
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Resembles the Eagles situation back when they took Carson Wentz.

766
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: They had Sam Bradford, then they went out and signed

767
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel and then they drafted Carson Wentz and then

768
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: they wound up trading Bradford right before the start of

769
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: the season when Teddy Bridgewater got hurt. Not saying that

770
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones would be a hot commodity, but potentially you

771
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: could do something like that if it gets to that point.

772
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: So the Giants would that six pick, if they stay

773
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Speaker 1: at six or if they potentially move up. I'm still

774
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: looking at them as a possible quarterback situation.

775
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would seem on if they don't address it

776
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: with Daniel Jones's injuries and you just don't know what

777
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: he's gonna do, you know after this year, if they

778
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: don't address it, all of a sudden, they get caught

779
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: next year in a bad situation.

780
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: And also think about it in terms of this, right,

781
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: you do that, and now you don't need to do it.

782
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: So maybe it's a little bit of playing cat and

783
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: mouse with teams when it comes to the draft. Let's say, oh,

784
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: what Giant signed a guy like no That still allows

785
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: you then to explore trades because a you're not desperate

786
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: for it, you can't have a fallback situation, and B

787
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: they don't think that you're necessarily about to jump up

788
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: and bite right.

789
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: Hey, Mike Tee, really good stuff.

790
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I love talking about some off topic stuff

791
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: after a great start of the week. Really appreciate what

792
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: you Ian and Tom do for our franchise. Well done.

793
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: Now go get some rest and now coming up after

794
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: the break, we're.

795
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: Gonna talk Washington Commanders.

796
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: I said early on, this is gonna be one of

797
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: the busiest teams this offseason. We're gonna be joined by

798
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: the Washington Post beat writer Nikki Jabala to talk about

799
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: all of the moves Dan Quinn and this new regime

800
00:35:51,640 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 4: have made in the nation's capital. We are back at

801
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: the NFL reports see why James Palmer and now we're

802
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: joined by Nicki Gabala, the Commanders beat writer for the

803
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 4: Washington Post, one of my former stopping grounds back in

804
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: my writing days, and Nikki. Earlier on Thursday, Commanders made

805
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: a trade which seems to kind of clear the path

806
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: for them even more to draft a quarterback with a

807
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 4: second overall pick, any quarterback Sam Howell and a fourth

808
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: or six rounds draft pick in Seattle and they get

809
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: back a third and a fifth. What about that move?

810
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: Who?

811
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 9: Yeah? I mean they now have six picks on the

812
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 9: top one hundred. They had five previously. They began free

813
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 9: agency with the most salary cap space, They've signed the

814
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 9: most veteran free agents, so they are loaded to continue

815
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 9: their roster overhaul. They're also loaded going into the draft

816
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 9: to give them some flexibility if they want to cut

817
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 9: another deal and try.

818
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: To move up.

819
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 9: You need a partner to do that. But you know,

820
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 9: if they want to give her to try, they certainly

821
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 9: have enough ammunition to do so. But it also just

822
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 9: helps them fill out the roster and really, you know,

823
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 9: make a move and try to get a younger quarterback,

824
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 9: which seemed likely when they signed Marcus Mariota, a guy

825
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 9: you would think comes on to either you know, be

826
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 9: a backup and mentor a younger guy or step in

827
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 9: to start early if necessary.

828
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: And let's stick to that quarterback spot and making you

829
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: talk about the young guy they're picking. You mentioned all

830
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: of them, but the first one they have is number two. Overall.

831
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Speaker 2: Does this move make you feel like number two is

832
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: one hundred percent a quarterback or do you see them

833
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: moving out of that spot at all? Given the fact

834
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: that everybody just assumes they're really starting the draft at two, right, Yeah, I.

835
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 9: Mean, I think they have to take a quarterback no

836
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 9: matter what the question is, will they take it at

837
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 9: two or would they try to trade back and try

838
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 9: to get, you know, one of those second third tier

839
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 9: guys and try to continue to fill out the roster

840
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 9: and maybe grab you know, a tackle later on. So yeah,

841
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 9: I mean I still to me, it still feels like

842
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 9: number two, you go and grab the guy you want there,

843
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 9: especially again with bringing in Mariota. You have that veteran

844
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 9: that sort of that mentor type that can that can

845
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 9: back them up.

846
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 5: But we'll see.

847
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 9: I mean they've they've done a lot in really four

848
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 9: days of the open negotiating a period of free agency.

849
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 9: So I don't think they're anywhere close to that. I

850
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 9: don't even think they've come close to denting their cap space.

851
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 9: I mean, you just had so much, so I think

852
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 9: anything is fair game going into the draft.

853
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, you talk about we'll see

854
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 4: if they trade back. I think the guy they just

855
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 4: traded away is a prime example of what happens when

856
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: you have when you have an opportunity to draft a

857
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: quarterback high and don't. So to that note, the new

858
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator is Cliff Kingsbury, former Arizona Cardinals head coach,

859
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: coach Kyler Murray, coach Caleb Williams last year at USC's

860
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: or Caleb Williams to be the first overall draft pick

861
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 4: of the Chicago Bears.

862
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: However, do you think.

863
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 4: With all the moves we've seen Adam Peters and Martin

864
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: Mayhew in that front office make with the commanders, they

865
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: may be aggressive and trying to bring Caleb home to

866
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: the DMV.

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Speaker 9: I would not roll out anything. I learned that less

868
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Speaker 9: than a long time ago in Washington. I will not

869
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Speaker 9: roll out anything. I will say based on their approach

870
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Speaker 9: so far, it does feel like they're being very methodical

871
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 9: about completely rebuilding this roster. I mean, they resigned only

872
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 9: three guys from you know last year that were free agents.

873
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Speaker 9: They have completely overhauled it. Their approach has to bring

874
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Speaker 9: in veterans who can mentor and develop and kind of

875
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Speaker 9: lay the foundation and really use the draft to build

876
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Speaker 9: the core this roster. So would they trade up maybe,

877
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Speaker 9: but they've also said many times they don't want to

878
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Speaker 9: mortgage their future to one player, and if that means

879
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Speaker 9: giving up a hall of draft picks, that would certainly,

880
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Speaker 9: in my mind count as mortgaging the future. But you know,

881
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Speaker 9: if they feel strongly enough about a guy and I

882
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Speaker 9: goes willing, you know, I again wouldn't rule anything out.

883
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Speaker 2: I love it.

884
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Speaker 3: I love it.

885
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like Nikki, there's a sense at all

886
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Speaker 2: that there's somebody that's just a front runner in your

887
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Speaker 2: opinion at the quarterback position in this draft, that you

888
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Speaker 2: just feel like fits what they're looking for, maybe more

889
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Speaker 2: than somebody else.

890
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Speaker 10: I know it's early, yeah, and I feel like there's

891
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Speaker 10: like it's split debate, especially locally between the Jayden Daniels

892
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Speaker 10: and Drake May if they stick it to and you

893
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Speaker 10: assume Caleb Williams is going on.

894
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Speaker 9: I think it's interesting to me that, you know, some

895
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 9: are fully convinced that it's going to be Jayden Daniels,

896
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Speaker 9: especially now with Marcus Mariota on board, because Marcus is

897
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Speaker 9: his style is more like Jayden Williams. So you know,

898
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Speaker 9: I do think if I had to guess now, I'm

899
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Speaker 9: leaning more towards Jayden. But I also think that could change,

900
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Speaker 9: you know, as they go through pro days, as they

901
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Speaker 9: bring him in for top thirties, possibly have private workouts,

902
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Speaker 9: are going to get to know these guys even more

903
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Speaker 9: so I'm leaning toward you know, Jane Daniels, pub we'll.

904
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Speaker 3: See, well, James knows.

905
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Speaker 4: I'm leaning towards Jayden too, because quarterbacks at Cliff Kingsbury's

906
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Speaker 4: offense have to be on the hop.

907
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Speaker 3: Because a lot of times there's a free runner.

908
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Speaker 4: There's a free runner coming at that quarterback, going back

909
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Speaker 4: to the days of Texas Tech.

910
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Speaker 3: So but again, he's grown. You know, he knows how

911
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: to coach this NFL game. No, I's not going to

912
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Speaker 3: get this quarterback killed.

913
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Speaker 4: Here's a question, and I just don't know if he

914
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: had enough time to decipher. But do you think you

915
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: know and seeing these moves right, the fact that Dan

916
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Speaker 4: Quinn coached against this group of guys for the past

917
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Speaker 4: couple of years, twice a year and got to see

918
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Speaker 4: what's there, do you think that has gone a lot

919
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Speaker 4: into the thinking of the shaping of this roster, like

920
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: we destroyed that guy, we can't have him here, or

921
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: this guy's really good, we want to keep him in

922
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Speaker 4: the MiG.

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Speaker 9: I think in part I mean Dan has said that,

924
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Speaker 9: you know, every stop in the past has helped him

925
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Speaker 9: kind of get to where he is, and the fact

926
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Speaker 9: that he knows what he likes more, he knows what

927
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Speaker 9: he doesn't like. I mean, they did bring in guys

928
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Speaker 9: who are very familiar to a number of guys on staff.

929
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Speaker 9: You know, Austin Eckler with Anthony Lynn, zach ERTs with

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Speaker 9: Cliff Kingsbury. You've got a couple former Cowboys players, former

931
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Speaker 9: forty nine ers for Adam Peters, a former Lions player

932
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Speaker 9: for Lance Newmore at the assistant GM. But you know,

933
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Speaker 9: I think he has really evolved his defense and he's

934
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Speaker 9: one of the few that actually say we're going to

935
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Speaker 9: tailor it to our personnel and actually does that. So yeah,

936
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Speaker 9: I think there have been players and opponents in the

937
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Speaker 9: past that have influenced, you know, the way he approaches

938
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Speaker 9: this and the way he's doing it and you know,

939
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 9: his second chance to be a head coach.

940
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Speaker 2: I love it, Nikki. It also feels like, as we

941
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Speaker 2: say goodbye here, I want to put this into your

942
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Speaker 2: you know, just your quick thought. Am I right to

943
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Speaker 2: say that a lot of these a lot of these

944
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Speaker 2: free agent signings that they've made. Culture is a big

945
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Speaker 2: part of it. If you look at the type of

946
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Speaker 2: guys that they are just yes, very quickly, it's huge.

947
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Speaker 9: I mean, they have to redo everything Washington.

948
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Speaker 3: So yes, well said they do have to redo everything Washington.

949
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Speaker 2: This is not a four years this is everything in Washington.

950
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Hey, Nikky, thank you so much for joining us.

951
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Speaker 4: We really appreciate the latest on the news and all

952
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: the quarterback talk. You're at the NFL report coming up.

953
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: We got Brian Baldinger. Oh he's back and we're talking

954
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Speaker 4: AFC Salry.

955
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: Oh, this NFL report. We can't get enough of Baldy.

956
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: Roll the Tate elsie, No, you cannot.

957
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 4: All right on a bombshell, lay it out, brought a

958
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: bombshell ratt let's have one.

959
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Speaker 3: Here we go.

960
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 11: Sources say the Tennessee Titans are signing Jaguar star receiver

961
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Speaker 11: Calvin Ridley. Listen to this massive deal four years, ninety

962
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 11: two million dollars for Calvin Ridley, fifty million dollars fully

963
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Speaker 11: guaranteed in this deal negotiated by David Mulgeda.

964
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Speaker 3: And res As. I'm a athletes first.

965
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Speaker 11: Calvin Ridley turns thirty this season, thirty, and he gets

966
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Speaker 11: a massive, massive deal from the Titans. Everyone has been assuming,

967
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 11: I think this whole time, that it was going to

968
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Speaker 11: be the Jaguars is going to.

969
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: Be the Patriots.

970
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 11: No, no, it is the Tennessee Titans, quietly lurking, working

971
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 11: and now landing a top free agent received for a massive,

972
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Speaker 11: massive move for the Titans.

973
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Speaker 4: This is the NFL report that was Ian Rapidport on

974
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: free agent frenzy on Thursday, on Wednesday breaking the news

975
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Speaker 4: about Calvin Ridley, James Palmer, Brian Baldinger back here, Baldy

976
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Speaker 4: saw the move by Calvin Ridley one of many by

977
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Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans. So let's focus on the AFC South

978
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: and let's start right there, Baldy with.

979
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Speaker 3: The moves that the Titans made in the direction that

980
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: they're headed in.

981
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, all these teams in the AFC South

982
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 8: are led by top flight quarterbacks picked, you know, at

983
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 8: the top of the draft. You know, whether it's Anthony Richardson,

984
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 8: you know, CJ last year, Rookie of the Year, you know,

985
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 8: all the way to Trevor So you know, and then

986
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 8: Will Levis.

987
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: So you.

988
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 8: Make the selection, you identify your franchise quarterback, and then

989
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 8: you just never stopped building around that franchise quarterback to

990
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 8: give him every opportunity to be successful. And so here

991
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 8: comes Calvin Ridley. Kind of caught me off guard. He

992
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 8: caught a lot of other people off guard, just not

993
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 8: just where he went, but the amount of money they

994
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 8: committed to. Calvin Ridley and Steve we All, you know,

995
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 8: followed him from the stage when he was first drafted

996
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 8: by Atlanta. I mean, it was pretty clear that he

997
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 8: became the number one receiver in Atlanta.

998
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 5: He was the number one wide.

999
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 8: Receiver Jacksville a year ago, and now he's going to

1000
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 8: get that opportunity along with DeAndre Hopkins to kind of

1001
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 8: fill that role with Will Levis. Is they try to

1002
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 8: build this thing and kind of compete with what we

1003
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 8: saw the Houston Texans do a year ago.

1004
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, bod, it's no longer just handed off to Derrick

1005
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: Henry with the Tennessee Titans anymore. And you look like,

1006
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: get Lloyd Kushenberry to protect him in front, and you

1007
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: also get Tony p to surround Will Levis. Let's go

1008
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: as you mentioned CJ. Stroud in the Houston Texans. I

1009
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: love what this team did baldi in the offseason so far,

1010
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: with what they've done in free agency, I think Daniel

1011
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: Hunter and Will Anderson Junior could be the best edge

1012
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: duo in football possibly, but also the other moves on

1013
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. Not huge, massive deals,

1014
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: but they create more depth as a group for Damiko Ryans.

1015
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: What's your take on what Nick Casseio has done in

1016
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: this offseason?

1017
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 8: Well, I thought Nick Cassio struck gold last year, both

1018
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 8: in the draft and in free agency, whether it was

1019
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 8: Dalton Schultzer and the linebackers or de Elite Collins, all

1020
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 8: the guys they signed up front. But you look at

1021
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 8: just that, the guys on the screen right now, and

1022
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 8: you look at fully fut of Casi. All right, you

1023
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 8: got yourself just a space eater. You got denikeo Autry

1024
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 8: to win inside or outside. I mean, he's a ten

1025
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 8: sat guy just if he stays anywhere near healthy. And

1026
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 8: then you get Daniel Hunter. Look, we all like Trynathan Greenard.

1027
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 8: We all saw the development that he had in the

1028
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 8: year that they put together in the first four years

1029
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 8: starting Okay, Well they upgraded from greater when they went

1030
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 8: and got Dadel Hunter. And let's face it, Danel Hunter

1031
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 8: is from Katie, Texas. He's a Houston kid. He could

1032
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 8: have taken more money in other places. He wanted to

1033
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 8: go to Houston. It's the destination, you know, Demiko Ryans

1034
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 8: has this teleora about him. Players want to play for Demico.

1035
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 8: He knows that, like I just like coaches that are active,

1036
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 8: they're responsive, they're in guy's ears picking them up. I

1037
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 8: think we all saw that from Demico a year ago.

1038
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 8: And boy, they're building something I think pretty special in

1039
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 8: Houston right now.

1040
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Speaker 4: Baldy all got about ninety seconds. So looks combo the

1041
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: Jags and the Colts. The Colts basically just re signed

1042
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: everybody who was a free agent on their team, whereas

1043
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: the Jags they got out first and they made a

1044
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: trade for Mac Jones to back up Trevor Lawrence.

1045
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 8: Well, I mean if you just look at yes, Indianapolis,

1046
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 8: they brought in Flacco to really kind of help mentor

1047
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 8: you know, the young quarterback Anthony Richardson, which is a

1048
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 8: good move. But you know, you look at Grover Stewart

1049
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 8: and Taekwon Lewis and Kenny Moore and Pittman and Zaire Franklin.

1050
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 8: Those are all resignings. They're all really good players. So

1051
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 8: that's good. And then look, Jacksonville had this collapse last

1052
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 8: year that nobody saw coming. We saw a quarterback in

1053
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence. Maybe it was injury related, but suddenly he

1054
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 8: didn't look like he was on the same trajectory that

1055
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 8: we saw the first two years. And so I got

1056
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 8: to see what Jacksonville does to kind of bounce back

1057
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 8: and get back on top, and if they have what

1058
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 8: it takes ship back on top, because I think the

1059
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 8: momentum is going in other places in the AFC South

1060
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 8: right now.

1061
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Baldi, I mean a bad collapse by Jacksonville, it's

1062
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: going to show some mental stomach for them to kind

1063
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: of build themselves back up.

1064
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Speaker 3: Baldi.

1065
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: We appreciate the conversation always everything. Thanks for joining us

1066
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 4: with that great Max Cosby interview as well.

1067
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: Now the NFL.

1068
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: Report we will be back next Monday at seven pm

1069
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: Eastern Time on TV, on streaming look on the NFL channel,

1070
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: and as a podcast.

1071
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: And guess what with the hits don't stop coming. As

1072
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: Commander's head coach Dan Quinn.

1073
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Speaker 4: Is going to join Shad and I on Monday.

1074
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Speaker 3: So this is what we give you at the NFL Report.

1075
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 4: You give you the great interviews, we give you the

1076
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 4: real talk, and we give you Baldy. Everybody have a

1077
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: fantastic weekend again, chuck us out on Monday.

1078
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Speaker 2: I missed Baldy.

1079
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Speaker 3: I missed it.