WEBVTT - Mina Kimes Talks Playoffs and News Around the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Unleashed, presented by MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's Papas

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<v Speaker 1>and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome in everyone, Happy Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Unleaved by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books.

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<v Speaker 1>We made it. It's two. It's just kind of has

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<v Speaker 1>a good ring to it. Janna, how is your New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's It was gray, We got a baby. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in bed by eight. It was so much fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did it on the couch. You did it on

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<v Speaker 1>the couch. Well, we didn't do it on the couch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, get your head out of the gut or Olivia,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Wait, you starting twenty two off with a bang? Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>well there you go with another pun. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 1>at you. I mean there was no bang and we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it. I'm talking about we were on the

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<v Speaker 1>couch with a blanket watching Netflix. I mean, we're so tired.

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<v Speaker 1>We're parents. My daughter. I just spent New Year's chasing

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter around and telling her not to pull things down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all she's doing now. She's at that stage and

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<v Speaker 1>she just runs around and pulls things off of shelves

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<v Speaker 1>and bangs her head of the stuff. So my job

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<v Speaker 1>right now is to keep this child alive. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a human bumper car. At this point, that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds exhausting. No wonder you're tired by eight pm, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of depressing. You know, you can get a sitter. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but you know, I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>got COVID or what, you know what it is. So

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, it's just she's gonna have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with me and me and the wife. I'm sure she's

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<v Speaker 1>sick of us. I bet you babies get sick of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing their parents during quarantine. They're like, we get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can I see somebody new? I've had enough of your face.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time I see a baby, I'm gonna ask him

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<v Speaker 1>that is That is interesting. No one asked what the

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<v Speaker 1>babies wanted. No one knew. Nobody takes their their perspective

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<v Speaker 1>into consideration. Okay, here's the question. Because you've talked on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast about how much you love Christmas, how you

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<v Speaker 1>think Christmas should be at least eight days, like Hanka

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. How long do you leave your Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>decorations up? What kind of level of white trashness are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I keep them up. I mean, you could come into

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<v Speaker 1>my house in May and those puppies are still up.

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<v Speaker 1>I am lit up. I mean it is Christmas till

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<v Speaker 1>May and my house. I'm not gonna say that's whether

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<v Speaker 1>that's because I have Christmas spirit or whether I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>purely lazy, but let's just say it's a little bit above.

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<v Speaker 1>How about yours? When are you taking your rama? Don

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<v Speaker 1>taking it down soon? No, I'm I'm going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the States this week and I will see at our

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<v Speaker 1>house all the Christmas decorations we put up before we

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<v Speaker 1>knew we were moving here. And that's like the single

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<v Speaker 1>saddest thing to do all years, takedown those holiday decorations.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's still freezing cold outside and just without

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<v Speaker 1>the festivity. So I just it's a sad day. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really sad day taking all that down. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you get a chance to watch the college football semifinals.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a little bit of the Alabama game, That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I did. I checked in. I saw they were winning.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Nick Saban he you know, his expression doesn't change,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you know, I know they're gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was all I really caught. How about you.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do you even get them in? In Turkey?

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<v Speaker 1>They were too late, so it's obviously New Year's Eve.

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<v Speaker 1>We went out to a really funding Year's Eve party

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<v Speaker 1>here in istanbuls Blast and we get home. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sober and pregnant. My husband was not. He is

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<v Speaker 1>not either one of those adjectives. And we got to

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<v Speaker 1>try to catch the first part of the Alabama Cincinnati game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that was such a blowout as we

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<v Speaker 1>knew it would. We talked about it on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>That game was pointless and stupid. And I get why

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<v Speaker 1>there's fatigue of college football because so many people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we play this whole season and we end

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<v Speaker 1>up with the two best SEC teams playing each other

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<v Speaker 1>or in a normal year Ohio State. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the blue bloods are too strong, and here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled my alma maters in it, Georgia, but I

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<v Speaker 1>worry about them facing Alabama again. We saw what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the SEC championship and I don't know. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this year, since I'm out of college football, we'd talk

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<v Speaker 1>so much NFL on the show. I get the fatigue

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<v Speaker 1>now that I'm on the other side. Yeah, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we do? How do we change it? Do we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do like a French revolution type of thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you proposing, your your chay, your your Chegovaris?

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<v Speaker 1>It tell us how we how do we overthrow the

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<v Speaker 1>blue bloods? Do we cut their heads off? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking, Olivia? I'm ready. I guess extended

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<v Speaker 1>playoff helps because you have more chaos. That's what so

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<v Speaker 1>great about the NFL playoffs is anything can happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's single elimination. It's so great. And I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to our guest who's coming up after this

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<v Speaker 1>about kind of looking ahead at the NFL playoff picture

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<v Speaker 1>as we go into the final week of the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>because anything can happen, even this last week, anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a really fun NFL season. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm on team extend the playoff. It's a very

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<v Speaker 1>short season, especially now that the NFL seasons one week longer.

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<v Speaker 1>College football seems so short now. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you agree, yeah something either that or I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really do a March madness type of thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been explained by that's not possible. But the same

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<v Speaker 1>applies for basketball. You know, it's like you never know

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna win. It's one game elimination and it just

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<v Speaker 1>makes it much more fun to watch. And so they

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<v Speaker 1>got to do something. I think we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a revolution, but we definitely need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting and talk starting. No, that's the problem with college football.

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<v Speaker 1>There are too many meetings, there's too much money, there

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<v Speaker 1>are too many people with job titles. No one knows

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. Then C double A is a very

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<v Speaker 1>confusing web once you peel back that curtain. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>no more meetings for action, you honest. And speaking of action,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned we have a great guest coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>this show. I'm so excited. No one better to talk

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<v Speaker 1>NFL with than Mina Kimes, ESPN NFL analyst. Plus we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the final week of the NFL regular season

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<v Speaker 1>and get some betting advice from Peter Andrew. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait he is back. We're starting twenty two with a

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<v Speaker 1>clean slate, if you will, with our punishment picks because

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<v Speaker 1>Joannice just killed me in so I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>for my redemption tour. It starts today in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>are almost here. It's gonna be a lot of fun, Yannese.

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<v Speaker 1>You know our bad beat of the Week winner? You

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<v Speaker 1>know who it is for the first week of Is

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<v Speaker 1>it Craig Jones Brad Beat all the Week? Yep, it

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<v Speaker 1>is Craig Jones. And again, like every week, Jannis, take

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<v Speaker 1>this as a lesson. It's one leg of a major parlay.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a ten leg parlay that my man Craig lost,

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<v Speaker 1>and it should serve as a warning sign. But also

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes me want to do it more because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you win the big money. And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Vegas with bet MGM in February for

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl and NHL All Stars. So that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>really rolled up my sleeves and get to betting at

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<v Speaker 1>our bet MGM kiosks because I just like to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in person, and I think I'm just gonna build

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<v Speaker 1>parlays all weekend. What do you think sounds good to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Go girl, Okay, I may need your help because you

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<v Speaker 1>have a weird lucky streak when it comes to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I have no idea how, I really have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how. I'm telling you I'm on the right side

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<v Speaker 1>of history. Well, my man Craig, he got to win

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred dollars of bet MGM site credit, as does

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<v Speaker 1>our winner every week. So keep submitting your bad beat

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. It could be you. I hope it's

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<v Speaker 1>not me in a couple of weekends. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a really bad beat, let us know. We'll help

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<v Speaker 1>you out. Okay, this is the part of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'm ready for it this week. I am ready

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<v Speaker 1>for it this week. I knew right away what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about for our Unleashed segment. Ye honest,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time. No one let's on. It's okay, So everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows what happened with Antonio Brown and the Buccaneers this

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend. Right. He was welcome back to the team

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago by Bruce Arians after faking a vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>card or obtaining a fake vaccine card. That's still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of under investigation, which by the way, is a federal offense,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's pretty major looming over him. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>in a jersey, he was playing. He was dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle injury, but cleared by every doctor the whole team.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone said he was healthy. Ready to play. Middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the third quarter. He makes a big show after questionably

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<v Speaker 1>being benched, but Bruce Arians was asking him to go

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<v Speaker 1>back in the game and he didn't want to. He

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<v Speaker 1>said his ankle was injured. All this stuff, so we

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<v Speaker 1>still don't know all of the rigamaro there, but what

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<v Speaker 1>we do know is what happened next. He makes a

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<v Speaker 1>big show, his teammates telling him calm down, sit down, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>He walks off the field, kind of dances off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes off his paths, he takes off his helmet,

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<v Speaker 1>he takes off his undershirt, stripping on his way to

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room, waving fans again, loving the attention. Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Arians has since said he has done. Here's my thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Antonio Brown, and this is like chapter five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>of his story of mishaps. Very few people in life,

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<v Speaker 1>in any profession, get as many second, third, fourth, the

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<v Speaker 1>six chances as he does. And a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are dealing with a lot of issues, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes made with one one dred of the talent, of

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<v Speaker 1>the money, of the friends and high places as Antonio Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>He was kicked out of Florida International. He questionably robbed

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<v Speaker 1>a delivery truck with some assault charges involved sexual assault

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<v Speaker 1>allegations from a personal trainer, something about a helmet, smuggling

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<v Speaker 1>a helmet from the raiders. I believe doing something wrong there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's stiffed people for money before, and then this fake

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine card, which again, if it's all true, as a

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<v Speaker 1>federal offense. His own friend and chef ratted him out

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<v Speaker 1>on that, which tells you a lot. I cannot find

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing to say about Antonio Brown. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>redeeming quality, no sign of character or remorse for any

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<v Speaker 1>of these things or moral compass that were aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>He was even laughing about it on the car ride

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<v Speaker 1>home from the game, his driver put on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>This driver has also gone on some podcasts since that,

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<v Speaker 1>so making a whole mockery about that. And now let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how he's letting his teammates down and really

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<v Speaker 1>greatly affecting the Buccaneers playoffs scenario. They lost Chris Godwin

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<v Speaker 1>for the season, Mike Evans has been a bit banged up,

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<v Speaker 1>and most recently with the hamstring injury. Gronk has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been the same story, injury prone, having some issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady does not have many playmakers on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs Antonio Brown, their offense will have to adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>His absence greatly impacts their next few weeks, which are

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<v Speaker 1>very important weeks, and maybe most of all, look how

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<v Speaker 1>he's let Tom Brady down. First of all, have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen the video of Tom Brady looking up saying what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he didn't know, he's he's they were down,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in a hole. He was trying to win

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and his top receiver, his friend, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>he has stuck his neck out gone to bat four,

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<v Speaker 1>is running off, prancing around, taking off his shirt, blowing

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<v Speaker 1>kisses to the crowd. It just makes me sick. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us know his mental illness, If he has

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<v Speaker 1>CTE all these things, or if he's just a narcissistic asshole,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. That's way above all of our pay grade.

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<v Speaker 1>If he does have clinical issues, I really hope he

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<v Speaker 1>can be helped. But boy, are we given him the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of the doubt time and time again. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>figure out why. As a human being, I certainly have

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<v Speaker 1>empathy for someone who's greatly struggling, and I really find

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<v Speaker 1>it gracious and honorable that Tom Brady at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of all that keep saying, have him have compassion. He's

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<v Speaker 1>such a class act. But as a football fan, I

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<v Speaker 1>do not have empathy for Antonio Brown as he's running

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<v Speaker 1>off the field laughing, proceeding to make a mockery of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who have protected him and helped him, the

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<v Speaker 1>fans who have supported him in the game that's given

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<v Speaker 1>him so much. So with that I dropped the mic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows what's going on there? All I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say is kids got great abs. I did

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<v Speaker 1>notice that. That's a redeeming quality, right, And also a

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<v Speaker 1>little empathy because they were losing to the Jets. So

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<v Speaker 1>if someone's going to do something that is really inexplicable

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<v Speaker 1>and a distraction and lose it, I would think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be during losing to the Jets. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. It's unfortunate. You know, sometimes when people

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<v Speaker 1>are born with so much talent, they take it for

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<v Speaker 1>granted and they're used to getting away with things because

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<v Speaker 1>the people look the other way because of their talent.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume some of that plays into this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at such a long history of problems

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<v Speaker 1>and such a high level of talent, you gotta say

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<v Speaker 1>at some point he just probably thought he could continuously

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<v Speaker 1>get away with things because of his talent. So it's sad,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I mean the bucks are in a pickle, now,

0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Buckster in a pickle. Do you think he's done? I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's done. I think he's absolutely done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go on a team with veterans like

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady won the Super Bowl last year, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't make it work there. You're it doesn't work out there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no other team that's gonna give him a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno State that you know is Fresno State and basketball

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<v Speaker 1>used to be that team. When I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, no matter what you did in college football,

0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Jerry would take you. And they're just that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how it works when there's money on the line. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the NFL is such a team game that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown is going to learn the hard way now

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<v Speaker 1>that you know nobody's bigger than the team of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's it. I mean, his his luck has

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<v Speaker 1>run out. No one's too talented to overcome all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and keep in mind Tom Brady leaving New England.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a bunch of reasons, but Antonio Brown was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that. He wanted to bring Antonio Brown

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<v Speaker 1>back and Bill Belichick wasn't having it. And Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>was right as he is a lot of times so

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<v Speaker 1>and he let a b stay in his house. They

0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.720
<v Speaker 1>celebrated holidays together. I mean, Tom Brady has has been

0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a saint to this man who from the outside looking in,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know everything. I don't know what he's done

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<v Speaker 1>to deserve that, but I don't think he deserves a

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<v Speaker 1>second chance after this on the football field. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, and you know, with football who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hope it's not something like ct like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I hope he's a narcissistic GasHole because you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want anyone struggling with anything physical that affects

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<v Speaker 1>their their mental well being or you know, their mental

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<v Speaker 1>well being. So hopefully he's just a narcissistic GasHole. Otherwise

0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.800
<v Speaker 1>he obviously needs help, as every on saying, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just an unfortunate story. And boy would it be great

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<v Speaker 1>if Tom Brady wins another one. Having gone through with

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<v Speaker 1>he's gone through with Antonio Brown and with the Bucks

0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.480
<v Speaker 1>have gone through there's so many great stories. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the Raiders. I mean, you know, it could be uh,

0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have a great story. There's so many great stories.

0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Stafford going to the Rams, like, I hope it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good story that wins the Super Bowl, you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. All right, So now it's time for me

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<v Speaker 1>to unleash here. And I am gonna unleash. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been listening to the show and you know

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<v Speaker 1>me and Olivia, there's no way anyone guess she was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna unleash on anything else. You know, that type of

0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.600
<v Speaker 1>behavior gets her goat. Okay, she likes people behaving. You

0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like people behaving. And Antonio Brown there's other examples. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna bring up his name because we talked about

0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.680
<v Speaker 1>him too much, but you like people behaving. And as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you know me, you're such a square,

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<v Speaker 1>your bb um. You know. I love the Giants, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and what we're going through is the tragedy. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>national tragedy. COVID is bad, but I think the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>are worse. So I'm going to be unleashing on my

0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:20.040
<v Speaker 1>hometown Gigantes. Okay, why are we still seeing actual guys

0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.960
<v Speaker 1>on the roster on the field. At this point, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's at least make it an event. If they're gonna lose,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make it a spectacle. Don't get me wrong, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that they're losing because at this point, winds means

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<v Speaker 1>less than nothing but negative ten passing yards. If we're

0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:42.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna do negative ten passing yards, let's keep going. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>make it worse. I want say Kwon Barkley coaching. I

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<v Speaker 1>want Joe Judges the water Boy. I want giant fans

0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.640
<v Speaker 1>playing in the game in uniform. Okay, if we're gonna

0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.000
<v Speaker 1>play bad, let's make it a spectacle. Let's have some

0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.480
<v Speaker 1>celebrities play quarterback one down at a time. Who wouldn't

0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.200
<v Speaker 1>love to see Tiktoker's getting tackled. That would be fun,

0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, just having them out for the season so

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<v Speaker 1>they can't make TikTok videos anymore because they got absolutely

0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.080
<v Speaker 1>hammered the offensive line. How about they just start live

0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.639
<v Speaker 1>streaming every down so we can hear what the what

0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the defensive line is saying to them. Why not, they'll

0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.000
<v Speaker 1>probably do a better job of protecting the quarterback if

0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.440
<v Speaker 1>they're filming at the same time, and the defense should

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<v Speaker 1>be allowed to take naps in between times they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. I mean, because the Giants defense was exhausted.

0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to send them all of my pillow. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ordering a whole bunch of my pillows, and I'm sending

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<v Speaker 1>them to the Giants defense. They were, they were on

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<v Speaker 1>the gridiron like what seemed like the whole game. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to keep losing because it means draft opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish it was worse, is what I'm saying. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I'm saying. How about we make the mascot

0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Giants French World War two soldier. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>just let them know that we're getting rolled over and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get beat and beat easy. Have some fun

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<v Speaker 1>with it. We suck. It stinks and I'm hurt. That

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<v Speaker 1>was great. That was a great unleashed I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>you don't ask our guests coming up about the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>You you usually find a way to work in one

0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Giants question, and it just seems very irrelevant now more

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<v Speaker 1>than ever. So just promise me you won't ask mena

0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.120
<v Speaker 1>kids about the Giants. I can't promise you that I'm

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:29.240
<v Speaker 1>going to okay without further ado. Let's bring in Mina Kimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's bring in our guest. I'm very excited to talk

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<v Speaker 1>with her. She's the sharp witted NFL analyst on ESPN,

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing Twitter follow. If you haven't followed her, you should.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a very sarcastic, dry sense of humor. It

0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.919
<v Speaker 1>cracks me up with every tweet. And apparently she's a

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<v Speaker 1>crossword whiz. Mina Kimes is here. Mina thinks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me, guys, now, crossword whizz walk me

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<v Speaker 1>through that. Have you always been good at it? Where

0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.520
<v Speaker 1>do you find the time to even do them? I've

0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.720
<v Speaker 1>always been passionate about them. I wouldn't say good at them,

0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.919
<v Speaker 1>but you know, once I got the New York Times

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 1>at which is what I use, I had more time

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to do it every day. Well not every day. I

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 1>really only do Thursday, Friday, Saturday, but uh yeah, I

0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.560
<v Speaker 1>travel a lot now, so I have time on the

0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.840
<v Speaker 1>road to do them, and I do them at night,

0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and it is incredibly nerdy habit. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of an unusual career path to where you

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<v Speaker 1>are now. Can you just tell people a little bit

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:39.040
<v Speaker 1>about that. Sure. Yeah, so after ten years of playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, I felt like it was time for

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<v Speaker 1>a new now. Um I was a business journalist for

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<v Speaker 1>actually eight years about so it was a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a career pivot for me. I worked for Fortune News

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<v Speaker 1>and then a Bloomberg Business Week, and then ESPN hired

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.080
<v Speaker 1>me as a writer, which I was a writer. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I joined ESPN the magazine as a writer doing football

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.560
<v Speaker 1>profile not just football but profiles and cover stories and

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. So, um, I went from being

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.159
<v Speaker 1>a writer to an analyst and then a full time

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>NFL analysts this past year. Can you stay non biased

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<v Speaker 1>about the Seahawks considering the bond that you had with

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>your dad over them? Or is that something that when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the Seahawks, your your co workers know,

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, she's not going to be so accurate on

0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this one. Her heart's too too much in it. I

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>think they know that I'm angrier than people who don't

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 1>root for them, because I'm probably more critical and more

0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 1>upset when things don't go right. But you know, fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>for me, we haven't had to talk about them for

0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks because they've been irrelevant, which is a godsend.

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they you know, they were really obviously relevant

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, so I did talk about

0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.199
<v Speaker 1>them for quite some time, and I always tried my

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 1>best to be critical. Well. A couple of teams that

0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.199
<v Speaker 1>are relevant, and I think was the best game of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunday Slate was Chiefs Bengals. It's so exciting to

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.440
<v Speaker 1>watch all these young players and we're going to see

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.960
<v Speaker 1>him for years to come. What's your take on the

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Bengals season. They have the two thousand yard receivers who

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>are under twenty three years old. Joe Cool is smoking

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.440
<v Speaker 1>cigars in the locker room looking like Len Dawson. They're

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 1>so easy to get behind, and they they're just extremely

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>fun to watch right now. And you're right, that was

0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely the best game in the most exciting game of

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. You know, for me, I think watching that

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<v Speaker 1>offense in particular, it's fun. They're almost like a basketball

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.639
<v Speaker 1>team live. I know you're big basketball fan because all

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 1>the wide receivers play different roles, like there's you know,

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the power forward in jamaar Chase and Higgins does his

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:48.119
<v Speaker 1>thing boyd underneath the zama and it presents such a

0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>matchup nightmare for every defense that plays him. As you

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<v Speaker 1>saw yesterday, you can't play man covered, you can't play

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, I sew up Jamar Chase really using the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball wards here. But by the same token, if you

0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>bracket in, you're gonna leave Tee Higgins opportunities. And Joe

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Burrow is just so good against pressure and delivering the

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>ball to them. So I'm excited to watch them in

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs because they I think really showed yesterday that

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<v Speaker 1>playing that caliber of competition in Kansas City, who had

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<v Speaker 1>been on a bit of a heater, they can keep

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 1>pace and that's really exciting. I mean, I love watching

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you on television. I've heard you speak about the Giants

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a few times, but I'm a huge Giants fan. You

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<v Speaker 1>know every year it's like we talked about always that

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line is it Daniel Jones. At what point

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<v Speaker 1>can we start blaming the organization and say this is

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<v Speaker 1>a semi problem. Yesterday you see Joe Judges press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the wildest I feel like it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>flown under the radar, maybe just because of everything going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Antonio Brown and the Chiefs, the Bengals or whatever,

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 1>but that Joe, Joe, judge, pardon me that press conference

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:57.680
<v Speaker 1>he gave where we went on like a teen a

0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>rant like was while then by all accounts he's staying

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>with the organization. My favorite part was when he told

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the story about former Giants. I wish they were with

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, you know, big my girlfriend in Canada, kind

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>of energy. But I think this is a team where

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones is not high on the list of people

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I would blame. Obviously has not been played because of injury,

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<v Speaker 1>just because the roster and the team are so broken.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Antonio Brown. We talked about it earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. What's your read on what we saw Sunday? Yeah,

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to know exactly what happened in that moment,

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>right there's conflicting reports coming out about what was said

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>between him and coaches. Bruce Arians head coach, said, you know,

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>they had a conversation, didn't reveal what was said, did

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>say he didn't know or hear that he was injured.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't really know, But we also know this

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>is a player Antonio Brown, who was quit on multiple teams,

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.439
<v Speaker 1>been accused of things that are much worse than putting

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in a football game. So I think at a certain

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<v Speaker 1>point you have to kind of just blame the organization

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>candidly for giving him. It's not even a second chance,

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>like a fifth, sixth chance, Like this is a gamble.

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean this is a gamble that they

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>made bringing him back, even after the fake vax scar thing,

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 1>bring him up again and it blew up in their face.

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I really don't know what else to say. Now. They're

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in a tough spot because he was the with Chris

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Godwin injured, he was the number two wide receiver, and

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to really affect their chances down

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the stretch. What do you think? I hate to say

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it this way, but do you think there's some CTE

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>going on here? I I really don't know. You know,

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>with Antonio in terms like his physical and mental health,

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>all I can say is history of very bad decisions

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and accusations of worse actions. You know, something we've seen

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL time and time again is if you're

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>talented enough, and he has a really really special talent,

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:58.360
<v Speaker 1>people overlooked at for a long time. Well, the Buccaneers included,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of teams kind of been to

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the finish line completely depleted, certain position groups also taking

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>a bigger toll than others with this extra wear and

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>tear of the eighteenth game, the eighteenth week. What are

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>the pros and cons to you about extending this season?

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it worth it? Well? I mean the pros for

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the league and the players are money is why they did.

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>But um, from a football perspective, you're right, you know,

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>losing players two injuries. We obviously the more football you play,

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the more likely it is that you're gonna lose meaningful players,

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, important players. And then you've got a team

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.400
<v Speaker 1>like the Green of Packers who are actually getting players

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>back as the season goes along, and that's just kind

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of how things shook out for them. I think the

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>league did look out in a way because heading into

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>this week eight team there's still a lot in the air.

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of parody this year and as

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a result, this long season, it isn't one where I

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>think we're looking at the eight teen nobody really wants

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch and it feels like everything settled. There's still

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>so much to be determined. The charges in the Raiders

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>likely playing for a playoffs spot. The Niner is you know,

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>going up against the Rams, and just a lot of

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 1>meaningful football in this final week, and I'm excited to watch.

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the Niners, real quick, we saw Trey Lance

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>get his second start of the season for San Francisco.

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>He's the only rookie quarterback who hasn't really gotten this

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>extended playing time. They get the win. He threw for

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>two fifty and two touchdowns. Has your opinion of Lance

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>changed at all after seeing that performance? You know, this

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>is an interesting one because he looked really uncomfortable at

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, inaccurate and struggles with decision making. But as

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>the game went along, you saw him settling in and

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>then ultimately making some of the throws, both with his

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>legs and his feet. That explained why they drafted him right,

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think watching him admittently against Houston, you can't

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>help but wonder, well, what if he had played the

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>entire season, where might he be now as a quarterback?

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you look at the Jets where they've

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 1>had so many struggles on offense, But finally it feels

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like Zach Wilson is starting to cut down on the

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>mistakes and improve his decision making, and you see the

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>benefits of a young quarterback, saying that's something San Francisco

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do because they viewed themselves as contender

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>as this year and didn't want it to be a

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>developmental year for Lance. And I understand that, but I

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>do think watching him play, you can't help but leave

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>with some questions about whether or not it would be

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.719
<v Speaker 1>better for him to play more. What about the Cardinals,

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, big impressive victory shorthanded last week. What are

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>their chances and do you think Murray should get like

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>an extra five yards just when he completes the past,

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>just for being able to see over the line. I

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like that idea, like a like a bumper bowling kind

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>of situation. But then you know, defenses would say you've

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>got to take it away because he's so fast, and

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he is an unfair and advantage in that way. I mean,

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 1>he's got he looks really hard to tackle, right like

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the harder than any player. I think

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that they want they beat the Cowboys because Cala Murray

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>took over that game with his legs able to connect

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 1>on some of those go routes that I think he

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't hitting for a few weeks. Uh, not having Deander

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Hopkins had offense is huge amplifid I think because of

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the nature of the offense. But um, if you're a

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals fan, you know, okay, we get DeAndre Hopkins back,

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that they were able to have this

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of offensive performance, and Murray in particular was able

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to perform this well against the Blitz using his legs,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>knowing that you have to be optimistic with the realization

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that Hopkins is probably we're hearing coming through that door

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>at some point. Now. You mentioned their win over the Cowboys.

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>They also did it with defense. The Cowboys offense was

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so stymied. Who are the Cowboys? We saw him dip

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>in November, come back in December, they crushed Washington, But

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>who are they now? You know, they're pretty flawed team.

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I think. Incredible pass rush and when the offense is clicking,

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>they look really versatile and Dacrescott, you know, the decision making, accuracy,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>it's all there. But then you have games like this

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>last one against Arizona where they can't really run the

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>ball well, there's no downfield passing attack and the offense

0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>is sort of predictable in a way, which is how

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you end with all those bad passes and the defense

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>knows you're not your it's going to be a a

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>screen or a short pass. So I think they're gonna

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>have to really rediscover their identity on offense and that

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Prescott's gonna have to make more plays and take more

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>risks down the stretch because what we saw versus Arizona

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>is not going to cut in the postseason. This is

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the most interesting m v P races this year.

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>We ask every guest we have on who is their favorite?

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>What do they think? Who do you think it's gonna be?

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Is it Aaron Rodgers, Jonathan Taylor, Cooper cop I mean

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>nobody talks about Davante. I feel like he makes Aaron

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers life very easy. What is your call? So I

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's Rodgers right now. I think it's pretty close.

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.479
<v Speaker 1>And it's certainly not one of those years like last year,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>for example, where he really was an unequivocal m v P.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I think out there Tom Brady into the mix, you know,

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>pulling his team back from the brink yesterday after that

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown incident with some really really remarkable throws. But

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Rogers just in terms of like the consistency while at

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a wall with that offense. Yes, he has helped by

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams, but they are down multiple offensive lineman. His

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>floor has been so high. You know, he still continues

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to play quarterback at such a high level. I can

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>see the case for going Taylor and even Cup you know,

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>in non quarterback. But the value he brings to that

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>team is Rogers rather is apparent, and it was really

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>apparent when he did play. You did such a good profile,

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers for ESPN magazine a couple of years ago.

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>He's gotten so much criticism this past year, some fair,

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>some probably not fair. What do you think fans don't

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>understand about him? As you got to dig a little

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>bit deeper. I think people have gotten to know him

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot better since then. Yeah, he does all these

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>appearances now, so yeah, I don't know if there's much

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that people don't know. I mean, I think probably this year.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>You know something I've gotten master about with the m

0:30:55.720 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>v P s. You don't agree with his common terry

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.719
<v Speaker 1>about vaccination and the importance of it, but you are

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>he's your pick as m v P and I and

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I've said it's the most valuable player I think, And

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of how I look at the award and

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, what, perhaps I don't think it's getting lost

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>in it as well all but I do think he

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>is having a remarkable season and the fact that he's

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>still playing at this level, I think despite not only

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>his age, but some of the issues that they have

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>had on offense, so the absences, rather and coming off

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of a few years before this, these last two seasons

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>where things weren't so easy on the field, has been

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit lost. You know, these last two seasons

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>have been so remarkable that people kind of forget, oh this,

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, Roger's Aaron Rodgers was not playing his best

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>football from two thousand seventeen through nineteen maybe or twenty.

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right, and so to I think have

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that sort of turnaround this year is something that I

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>think is really interesting and I'm always interested in hearing

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>more about why and what went into that. Do you

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>think he stays I think so, honestly, in large part

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>because the language we're hearing coming out of Green Bay,

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>but also, um, I'm not sure there's a better situation.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I alluded to some of the absences they've

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>had on that offense, but this is a very good

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>defense with a lot of stars and as you mentioned,

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you honest I think the best wide receiver in football.

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>What about if he shows up in Seattle though you

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>won't be mad. No, I don't know what's going on

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in Seattle though, so I don't think if I ran Rodgers,

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't go to Seattle. Yeah, hopefully Russell's coming

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>to the Giants. But speaking of quarterbacks, Big Ben appears

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to be wrapping up his career at the end of

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the season. Is there any chance you see him leaving

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the door open to come back to a different team?

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>And what do the Steelers do next year? I don't

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>see him continuing to play just I don't really think

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he should frankly, I just purely football perspective. Not playing

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>at a very high level feels like a natural ending

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>point for his career. As far as about the year

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>should do. It's a tough spot because they will have

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>some cap space with Ben gone, not like a ton,

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>but you know you're going into a draft you're not

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>picking high. But there's also not a lot of quarterbacks,

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and there aren't a lot of free agents aside from

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the Rogers and Wilson's and that kind of speculation, it's

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of the usual cast of suspects and free agency.

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So it might be a year to take a flyer

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>on someone in the draft, take a beat, focus on

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>rebuilding some other parts of the roster, and then take

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>another swing next year in the draft, maybe if you

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>want to take a quarterback higher. Serious question, Mina, because

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you're you're obviously an analyst. You sit and analyze plays,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>game scheme, but you also know a lot about personnel

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in front office. Does any part of working in an

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>NFL front office appeal to you? Uh? No, I I

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know that much. So by the way, I'll throw

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>this other thought out there with Green Bay, that is

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a front office that deserves a ton of credit. And

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>we came under a lot of got a lot of fire.

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess this last offseason because of all the Rogers stuff.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>But when you watched this team and you look at

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this roster and see all the contributions they've gotten, not

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>just from players they drafted, but guys they've picked up.

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>It for agency, the deounded Cannibals sold douglasses is of

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the world. That is a front office that's doing a

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>very very good job. That's all said. Can you walk

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>us through what your normal NFL Sunday looks like, because

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>your your responsibilities are large. But I also know you

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>have basically everyone's dream of sitting in that big screening

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>room and watching with some amazing former players and coaches. Yeah,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it's over there, we called the war Room. Yeah, so

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>for me, a lot of it is you know, obviously

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't watch every game, and even you know you

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>don't learn anything by watching Gradzone. You can't watch the games.

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So I always want to go into is a Sunday

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>with an eye towards the games I know we're going

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. You're obviously open to if something crazy

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>happens or unexpected as an upset, you might have to

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>rewatch it later, But always have a sense of maybe

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you know which two game aimes simultaneously in the morning,

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>In the afternoon I want to dial in on and

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>take notes on. And then later on in the day

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>once you have the condensed film, I can kind of

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>catch up on some of the things I didn't get

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to see. Which show is the most fun for you

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to do over at ESPN? Oh gosh, they're all I mean,

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>they're all fun in different ways. I really love the

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Tuesday episode of NFL Live when we have Ryan Clark

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>in studio watching him and Daniel Lavsky do tape stuff.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>It's very fun, just like to for me as a

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>fan and student of the game to learn watching them

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and seeing kind of them bounce ideas off of each other.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>And then of course Laura Relige Marcus Spears probably two

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>most fun people to be around on television. We had

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Dan on the show and he did his dog impersonation,

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and then he did his Peyton Manning impersonation, which we

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>felt like was not up to par. What's your views

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>on his Peyton man Is it shit? I actually haven't

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>heard that, but I'd like to take some ownership for

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the dog thing because he was He just did that

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>one day in the green room and I looked at

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>him and I was like, did that come from your body?

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, yeah, it's just a weird skill

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I have. And so I taped it and put it

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>out on the internet because I was like, people need

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>to see this. This is uncanny, and I don't know

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>how he does it. He says it's something to do

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>with throwing his voice or but it is. Honestly, Anne

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is very smart, very talented, but that is by far

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>the best thing he does as a person. I think

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>he was on our show like that week, so we

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>got him at the perfect time. Yeah. No, he's uh,

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he's Look, he's great to listen to. He's so smart.

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>But he probably had a lot of times on the

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 1>sidelines to work on that when he was a player.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's entirely possible. You you can developed him.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd be on the sideline doing cross words, he'd be

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.280
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline and practicing his dog impression. I totally

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>agree with you to Laura Rutledge is one of the

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>rare people in this business. I've I've gotten to know

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>her well at my time at ESPN. She's just incredible.

0:36:57.960 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Your crew is incredible. You guys do a great job.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I also really love you on the podcast ESPN Daily.

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if that kind of brings out something

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>in you that you love because it's a bit more investigative. Yeah,

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed hosting that before the football season. Now,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Pablo Torre posted does a terrific job, but you know

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it's that is a little bit more, or was for me,

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more like being a reporter because you're

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of looking into a story interviewing someone. I don't

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>really do interviews that much anymore. Occasionally, you know, for

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a Countdown feature. I just story and justin Herbert this summer,

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>but I rarely do reporting the way that I used to,

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's definitely something I miss. Okay, So, what moment

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 1>this season in the war Room, like you've discussed, made

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>people's jaws drop the most? What shook people the most

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in a good or bad way? Gosh, I don't know that,

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the end of the season looking back

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and trying to identify would have been some of the

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>biggest games. I mean, there's been so many involving the Chiefs.

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I would say so many involving the raven is coming

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>down to the final play making the you know, going

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>for it and succeeding going for it and failing on

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>two point conversions absolutely remarkable. I wasn't in the war

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>room this last Sunday, but this Jamaar Chase game from

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the Banga is the best single game from a wide

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>receiver in recent memory. So that's wild as well. Speaking

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 1>of rookies, Micah Parsons is just completely taken over the game.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Pologies to your Giants, but on on defense that have

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>really made my jaw drop. So um, you know, it's

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>an exciting time to be a football fan. A lot

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>of young talent. What do you think about the Ramps

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>big comeback win over the Ravens, who seemed to be

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>going south even though it looks so strong at the

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the year. And what do you think about

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Stafford as a ram what are their chances this year

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>to go all the way? Well, you know, they're not

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>my favorite to go all the way, but like I said,

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>there is a fair amount of parody and a lot

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of teams are pretty flawed, and I don't really think anyone,

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>including the Packers, is totally dominant. So they certainly got

0:38:58.320 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>a shot at it. Because when the offense is click.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>You saw that in the second half of Stafford is

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>playing really well. They look unstoppable, you know, But you

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>also have seen some of the inconsistency that I think

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you did see during his career in Detroit, not just

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>in this last game versus Baltimore, but in the last

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>few games, multi turnover games that make you give you

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of pause. So ultimately, I think they

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 1>go as far as Matthew Stafford takes them and we're

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>about to see how far that is. Who would you

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like to see in the Super Bowl? Most you know,

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>anything can happen in the playoffs. But right now, as

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.720
<v Speaker 1>we go into the last week of the regular season,

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>who do you think are the two best teams? Oh? Gosh, well,

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>who do I like? And who I think? I think

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the two best things? I still think even though they

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 1>lost that it's the Chiefs and the Packers. I think

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>if I had to pick a Super Bowl, we get

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Rogers Mahons, which is amazing. What a match that would be,

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, fantastic, Yes, yes, totally. Yeah, so just a

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>great throwback game. But what I would like to see

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>is I'm always reading for new team's new representation, you know,

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like the Bengals would be amazing for that fan base.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Is a team like the Cardinals, you know, where you know,

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you just have these kind of young quarterbacks and that

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that to me is always exciting and fun. But do

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the most likely outcome? No? Not not really.

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you bet you put any juice on games? Do

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you want us to open account for you at at MGM?

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't bet, but I do give advice

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Sometimes it goes better than others. I actually

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>have been pretty good against the spread this year though,

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and my family has a straight up pick um that

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I am about to win. So not to you know,

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.879
<v Speaker 1>to my own horn too much, but beat beat but yeah,

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you know a little bit, a little bit. I also

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>speaking of the war Room, I am about to win

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the war Room Fantasy League. So what yeah, take that

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 1>lowis ridd it be to you in the first round? Yeah,

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good about that. That's incredible. Yeah, thank you.

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've reached such peaks in your career. There's

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>so much still ahead of you. It's so obvious every

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>time watching you, are listening to you, how well respected

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you are. Everyone just loves working with you, has such

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a good things to say about you. What would ten

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>year old men think if she saw you right now?

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh should be really confused. I think that, uh that

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm on television. Forget the sports thing. That's the more

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>surprising aspect of it. Yeah, I mean tennel me and

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a writer. I was a writer

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>for quite some time. Maybe I'll go back to being

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a writer at some point, but in the meantime, I'm

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>enjoying doing what I think every football fan, not everything

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of football fans dream of doing, which is

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>getting to talk about the sport that I like for

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>a living. That's awesome. What is it about football that

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>drew you so much to it? Was it just the

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks and your dad or was there like, is there

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>something about the game that you just really, you know,

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>connect to on a visceral level, unlike the complexity of it.

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, every week, every day I learned something new about,

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, gameplay, play calling, statistics, personnel, all of it.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you could spend your whole life studying it

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and still learn new things every day. And I think

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what makes it so fun to me, because I

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm just a nerd and I like studying, and uh,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I like learning, and I now the other thing that's

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>really cool is just getting to be around people who

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>teach me a lot. Is such a privilege. That's awesome. Well,

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for joining us. You've taught us a lot.

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Our listeners will love to hear your great insight. There's

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:30.320
<v Speaker 1>still one more week of the regular season, long season,

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's been so much fun. Mina. Thank you for

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>joining us. Thanks for having me, guys. Patris Chief spoken.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Ye all right, he is back, ladies and gentlemen to

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>start off two strong Peter Andrew, Happy new year, Happy

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to your guys, back at it and ready for hopefully

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 1>some more winners for the year. Joannest, what do you

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>think are we doing a fresh slate this year? Jannest,

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't keep up with you from last year. You

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.720
<v Speaker 1>just whooped my ask. Now we're doing a fresh slate.

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.959
<v Speaker 1>Pete's got a fresh, new strong immune system, just back

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>from battling COVID. He's got San Francisco pride on his head,

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>just from one week a good football, you know. So

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>his hopes are up, but they're gonna get let down.

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It's good to see you healthy, brother. It's good to

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>see you back. Yeah. I missed you guys, not being

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 1>there last week. It hurt my soul so which was

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>worse than than COVID. But good to be back here. That, Yannas,

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>we're worse than COVID. That's that should be our byeline

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>for the podcast. Oh no, you're not. You're better than

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>COVID because I felt worse than COVID, right right, we're

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 1>better than COVID what uh you know? I see you

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>got your San Francisco hat on, buddy? What is it?

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you? Trey Lance? All the way? Now? What should

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>they do? Should Jimmy Jimmy Garoffalo says somebody Tanya harding

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>his knee? I mean, what's the solution over there in

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco? How do you get rid of that handsome fucker?

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Which is just so part for the Garofo. We'll get

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>your guys thoughts in a second, because that'll be part

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>of you know, teaser, one of your picks that I'll

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>ask you to make, and we'll do a little bit

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>different this week. But I think Niners five and oh

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>in their last five starts against the Rams, I think

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go back to Jimmy because he was started

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>for all five of those. So hot take loved Lance.

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he settled in nicely yesterday. I guess a

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty crappy team. M but you gotta go back to

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy if he's healthy. I want it. Before we dig

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>into this weekend slate for the final weekend of the

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>regular season, Updated futures, m v P Offensive Player of

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the Year, Rookie of the Year, Offensive Rookie of the Year.

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Everything it seems like this is Aaron Rodgers v. Peter

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Win And after that what really trickles down because there's

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>so many names still in the conversation and it kind

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of seems like Brady's out of it, although he did

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>have an incredible, uh save the day performance on Sunday. Yeah,

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about this in a couple of

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. Hard to see Aaron Rodgers probably two three

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, back to back m vps. But now, I

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 1>mean the way he's playing. I mean again, we're recording

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:30.320
<v Speaker 1>this on Monday, playing yesterday against the half of the Vikings,

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess is what you can say. Obviously no Kirk Cousins,

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 1>but absolutely dominant. I mean everything went their away from

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.399
<v Speaker 1>essentially a first drive, even the couple of field goals

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to start, but they looked so good, and all that

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>trickles down from Aaron Rodgers down to Davante and the

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 1>running game. You're right, I think it's you know, it's weird.

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 1>It's mine's two fifty. I think right now that is

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the biggest lock of the century. I was talking about

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it with something today. I need to put a bet

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 1>down on it before it changes to five thousand. I

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's anyway he doesn't win M v P.

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I think we've seen you know, you mentioned Brady has

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 1>dropped a little bit, you know, not in a crazy way,

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>but has not kept up to the Aaron Rodgers kind

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of level. And even Jonathan Taylor too, where he had

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks where you know, he didn't rush

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>for two hundred yards and four touchdowns, So he was

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>probably that kind of guy that could have snuck in

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and stole it. But it's Rogers all the way. The

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>intriguing one now for me is we talked about offensive

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Rookie of the Year where it's kind of been back

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and forth Mac Jones because of how well they've done

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>another community performance, but exactly Jamaar Chase just goes for

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>two hundred plus yards and three touchdowns, was clearly the

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>best best player on the field yesterday. How could it

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>not be Jamar Chase. Mac Jones has done well, but

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.439
<v Speaker 1>that's been a you know, a kind of a team

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>victory where they've gotten a click playoffs spot. Where's t

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Mar Chase is? You know, um, I think we said

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 1>it the other day, He's probably one of the top

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:57.800
<v Speaker 1>three wide receivers with Justin Jefferson Davante Adams, it's probably

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>those three and then it's everyone else, so hard to

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 1>say anything otherwise. Did you see where Joe Burrow after

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the game said, I just said effort and I knew

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Jamarro was gonna be There's like third and seven, Like

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:11.399
<v Speaker 1>that's so bad, ascid cool. I love this Bengals team.

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta admit everything about Joe Burrow is just awesome.

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, coming back from the a c L injury,

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>his name played falling off his jersey yesterday. He I mean,

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>he just even the other day they were up. I

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>think I forget what they're playing a couple of weeks ago,

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>throw up twenty one points and he's still just slinging

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the ball around, just completely dominant. And he gets to

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>play with a guy in Jamaar Chase that he went

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to l s U with, So there's already that connection

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and they are just dominant and they're gonna be dominant

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>for the next seven to ten years. And I think

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>they put the NFL on notice a bit where they

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>can actually still I think they can still clinch the

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>number one seed in the a f C there's four

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 1>teams I think Collinsworth said can do it, and they're

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>one of them. That's pretty impressive for a team that's

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>on the up and a guy that just came in

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>off a c L surgery and he's come back and

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>looks How bad a week was it for the book?

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 1>With the Giants game, I know a lot of people

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>had them winning big, So you guys must have handed

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 1>out a lot of money. Yeah we got you know,

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. We got lucky on a couple, so the bucks,

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks losing would have been amazing, but the Bucks

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>not covering was great. You had a couple, you know,

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are obviously always a favorite for people to

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>bet on across the country, so that was a good

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>result for us. But then he had games like that

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>where the Bears, I mean they dismantled the Giants, and

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Giants I think had one receiver healthy who was on

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the roster last week. They had to bring up all

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>practice squad guys. I mean that game was over before

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it started. Between that and then the late game, what

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>was it nine seven to three at one point in

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the Packers game according to ESPN, I saw that too,

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what was it. I mean it was thirty

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>seven three whatever was. But that game, you know, the

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>late game, when it doesn't go our away, it always

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.320
<v Speaker 1>changes what looks like a decent day, it turns intoto.

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, we got shaken up a little bit because

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the favorite one, and you know, everybody's trying to bounce

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>back and put money on that last game. Rams didn't cover,

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>but they were the highest bet team of the weekend.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe that was a good result for us in

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>one way, whereas obviously spread betting, but actually a lot

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of people have them within their money line bets too,

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and because they pull it out. Um, you know, people,

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you know when you start seeing all these favorites win

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and trickle into a late game and then Packers clinch

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>it for basically everybody that had those kind of favorite parlays,

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 1>that's what does a dirty a lot of times. But

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't awful. It wasn't an awful week. It was

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty even down the down the road, and yeah, we'll

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>get it back next week or our customers will get

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it back from us. Well let's start that right now. Jannie,

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>what do you think do you think in two I

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 1>make a soaring comeback. I don't think so. I don't

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>think so. I don't think two is going to be

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>your year either. You know, right now, you've got a

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of chemicals going on. Your judgment is gonna be off. Um.

0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you got your making a baby. It's a

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 1>big baby. So and you think this is just not

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be my ear right, It's just not going

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:07.439
<v Speaker 1>to be horrible thing to say to an expecting mother.

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, no, I mean, football wise, it's

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be your year. You know, you canna have a

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>beautiful baby. But I look at you, you're kind of

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>like the Ravens. You know, you started out strong and

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>then you just fell apart. That's gonna be my nickname

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>for you, the raven Also something to not say to

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>an expecting mother. You've just kind of fallen apart. No,

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean physically. I mean, you know, I just

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>mean your picks, just your picks. I mean, only had

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>one dinner tonight, So I'm not in the mood you've

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 1>only had one I'm gonna be very quiet during this conversation. Yeah,

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean only one dinner for a pregnant woman. I

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>mean that's like anorexia. Yeah, it feels like it. Yeah, Olivia.

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 1>You know she used to be kind of cute, but

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>just was not her year. You know, she started eating

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>for two and I mean the size of that baby

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:57.919
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna have inside, you better just start getting

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 1>used to going to McDonald's at three in the morning. Okay, Well,

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>if any listeners are still listening, let's get to this week.

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>As I know you wanna start with New Orleans in Atlanta.

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>It's in Atlanta. The Saints are eight, Nate Falcons seven

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and nine? What do you think in here, Pete? Give

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>us a little preview and then we'll need to make

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a pick. Yeah, So we're doing things a little bit

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>different this week because all these games really matter for

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>playoffs seating or to make the playoffs. We're gonna go

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 1>money line only, so I'll give odds, but importantly, you know, Saints,

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>if they win, they're in. So I'll go through the

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>games really quickly and then we'll go one by one

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>because they all kind of have an effect on each other.

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So Saints win and Niners lose. The Saints are in

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, Saints lose no matter what Niners are in.

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I wanted to pick those two games,

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and then the last one, which we'll get into in

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes' charges Raiders where winning you're in,

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>which is a cool scenario for those guys on Sunday

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>night football. So first one, Saints minus two hundred at

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons, who are plus one sixty five. Um. So

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>this is just to win outright, huge game. Falcons playing

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a little spoiler. They're not having that bad of a season,

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>not as bad as everybody had anticipated. Kyle Pitts looks great.

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he's breaking records for rookie tight ends. But

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the Saints obviously playing for something. So game at Atlanta.

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys like? Here? Go ahead, Olivia pregnant

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 1>woman's first you know. I'm looking down the line though,

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>at NFL stats and where the Falcons fall, because, like

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you said, they still find a way to win some games.

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I really am not sure how their bottom of the

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:38.319
<v Speaker 1>league and like almost every stat so, I I don't

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>know this one. Being at home in the Dome, their

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>fan base is wild. I don't know if you guys

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>have ever been to a Falcons game, but come you know,

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>with a taser in your pocket. They're they're nasty fans

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.839
<v Speaker 1>in the best way. But gosh, I don't know. Maybe

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take Falcons here. Saints. Who's even starting a

0:52:55.719 --> 0:53:01.439
<v Speaker 1>quarterback this week? Drew Brees. I think it's at this point.

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Who knows. It's just like, yeah, I'm gonna go Falcons here,

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of surprise you there. Yeah, I'm gonna have to.

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to agree with Olivia Falcons. I'm just

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>going off momentum, how they look recently. I'm going with

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons. So we agree on that one. Cool. So, uh,

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that's great because that means the Niners are in the playoffs.

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So thank you guys for that I did for you.

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 1>You deserve it after what you went through with COVID.

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. The good thing about this or bad thing,

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 1>depending on how you look at it, all these games

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 1>are at so these teams will not know if they're

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>in or not unless they basically take care of their

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:39.240
<v Speaker 1>own their own game. So that's why the league obviously

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>does it. It's at the same time for Niners at

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. Like I mentioned earlier, Niners have won five

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 1>street against l A, but the Rams a little bit

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>different obviously l b J. This time around, they are

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 1>playing for the division so if they win, they're in

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and they can actually get I think as high as

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the two seats. So they're playing for something Niners plus

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>two hundred Rams Mine is two fifty. What do you

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:05.399
<v Speaker 1>guys think? I like the Rams at home. I think

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>what we saw last week from l A is the

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 1>two editions that they made mid season, Oh b J

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and von Miller that kind of won this last game

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 1>for him, which was really incredible. Von Miller kind of

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>sealing the deal there at the end the final two

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.919
<v Speaker 1>plays I think on defense, and that just showed how

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:25.239
<v Speaker 1>adaptable this Rams team has been. And I'm not so

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>sold on Matt Stafford, but he can get the job done.

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Some people say they want in spite of him last night.

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>He got a lot of flak last night. I'm gonna

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 1>take the Rams here, sorry, Pete. I'm going with the

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 1>hot Niners. They're hot, baby. It's a hot hand riding.

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm riding it. I'm riding a hot hand. I'm going

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 1>with the Niners, and you're welcome, Pete. Here's another one

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>for what you went through with COVID to know here

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:53.319
<v Speaker 1>honest uh pandering early in the year. Yeah, it would

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 1>be an interesting one, like I said, hot hand, you know,

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>one five in a row. But who's that quarterback? And

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what he said, ram are playing for something, playing for

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>home field advantage. They don't want to have to go

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to Arizona or I have to go somewhere else. So

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a big game. And then the last one here.

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is now flex to Sunday Night football. Awesome

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>game justin Herbert and the Chargers against car at the

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Raiders in Las Vegas. So you know it'll be bumping,

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>probably the first real meaningful game in Las Vegas. Chargers

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>minus one fifty and Raiders plus right now, what do

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you guys like here on Sunday n Football. I think

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders got pretty lucky last week. I mean props

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of them, really fun game to watch at the end,

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:34.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think the Chargers are the better team. I

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 1>think they're so efficient on offense. Or boy, Austin Ekeler,

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone go back and listen to that episode preseason. He

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:44.360
<v Speaker 1>was incredible talking everything outside of football on Unleash. That

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>was incredible. It's hard to go away from the Chargers

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in this one. Never bet against Vegas. The house always wins. Baby,

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 1>they're at home. The Raiders are gonna win. They're going in.

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.759
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be an exciting game. I'm pumped. I'm sitting down,

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm popping a couple of relief and I'm going to

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that one. The only thing I'll say about the

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Chargers is they have been very inconsistent where they have

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 1>all these Keenan Allen Ekeler, Herbert Mike Williams, but somehow

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>they've found a way to lose games. I think the

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs one was an example where they look really good

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>for most of it and kind of threw it away

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth and obviously until overtime. But I think

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this is obviously the game of the week and there's

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 1>two teams that can win. Vegas has gone through a

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>lot this year, so it could be great for them

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:33.799
<v Speaker 1>just as a as a franchise moving forward where they've

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>gone through some tough stuff with Robinson and things of

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that nature. So it's gonna be a great one. And uh,

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be a good week of football this

0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 1>week for Week eight team. I mean, it's amazing that

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders are still in the conversation in Week eighteen

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>after what they've been through this year. I mean, the

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Groot in the rugs. It's it's been quite a season.

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:51.720
<v Speaker 1>And Derek Carr. I don't think they could have gotten

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near this without Derek Carr. He's such an impressive individual,

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 1>he's such a good leader. So that's it's been fun

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to watch. I'm I'm with them with their story and

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>even their best player, Waller, Darren Waller out for the

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 1>last I think it's five weeks or so. I mean,

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>doing it without him as impressive. He's a top probably

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>top three, top four tight end in the league. So

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>are you're asking to be a good one. God wants

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 1>them to win. So I go with God. God's the

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Raiders from God lives in Vegas. God loves the story.

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 1>He loves the story, what they've been through. He's pulling

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<v Speaker 1>for them. You know, like you guys just said, all

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<v Speaker 1>they've went through. They went through some tragedies, they went

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<v Speaker 1>through some emails. Well they didn't go through you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL went through some emails. Okay, God's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>with he He loves Vegas. Baby, God does not love Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go ahead and make sure there are

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<v Speaker 1>any children listening. They know that right now. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect place to wrap it up. Peter, thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. We're glad to see you doing better,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. We can't wait to our wedding in fight

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<v Speaker 1>should be coming in the mail pretty soon. You already

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<v Speaker 1>said I can bring my baby and my whole family

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's an open bar. So thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much out my pleasure. It's gonna be fun. I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners know what it is too if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to crash. Okay, everyone, don't forget to follow us along

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<v Speaker 1>all year. Boy do we have a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>coming up before the super Bowl. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>different NFL related guest every week, and so much to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about as the regular season winds down this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoff start. It is a beautiful time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow at bet MGM on all social media platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow at Jana's pampas for pictures of him

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<v Speaker 1>doing weird things around Connecticut, and we can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys throughout the year and see you next week. Thanks,

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