1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day. If Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: dot Com, the radio plus mobile last and on your radio. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie peltonal the SMP NESDAK all declining right now. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Let's head over to the First Word Breaking news desk 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: for today's afternoon call. And here's Bill Maloney. Good afternoon, Charlie. 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Stocks are under pressure today, with the Dow currently lower 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: by a hundred and twenty point says if he's dropped 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: seven and as that lower by two and a half. 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: This morning, the Dallas Fetti manufacturing was a big miss, 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: and a UK online poll on the EU showed forty 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: seven percent leave remained. The small cap six hundreds down 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: to point and the US ten y yield fell to 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: one point eight three percent after hitting one point eight 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: nine percent, and crew features faded from the fifty dollar level. 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Eight out of tennis B sectors are lower, led by 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: losses and staples, energy and the materials. Only Telecom and 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: utilities gained doubt Transports rise three points and as a 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: biotext climb seven, and the vix is higher by thirteen percent. 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Dell leaders of the downside include Boeing DuPont and Nike, 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: small games for Verizon and Caterpillar. Amazon traded to a 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: new all time intur day high, hitting seven hundred and 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: twenty four hours to share. Apple traded back below the 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: hundred dollar level, and Great Plains Energy fell six percent 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: after its deal for west Star after the belt tonight, 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: look for earnings from work Day Live on the first 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Breaking News desk on Bow Maloney. 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Monsanto may have initially rejected buyers 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: sixty two billion dollar takeover bid. Bloomberg First Word reporting 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: that Street Insiders says they are ready to raise their 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: bid to a dollar thirty five or excuse me, a 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: hundred hundred thirty five share. Excuse me, got my decimal 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: point in the wrong place. That's where the focus has 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: been a lot on on when it comes to Wall 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: Street in analysts. But our next guest is looking at 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 1: a very important part of this, and that's the rigorous 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: review by anti trust regulators that buyer will face in 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: multiple jurisdictions around the world. What does this mean for 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: the deal? Jennifer Jennifer rehe Is. Here's he's senior litigation 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: analysts for Bloomberg Intelligence and she's joining us in our 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: New York studio. Welcome, Jennifer, Thank you so much for 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: having me. So again, let's put all that price stuff, 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: because if they really want to do this, they're going 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: to come to a price, right. The question is that's 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: just one step then have to get past the regulatars. 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: What's the biggest issue on that those regulators minds? You know, 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I think the biggest issue is that we're looking at 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: a lot of concentration in what you might want to call, 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, agricultural or chemical areas, so you know, three 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: different deals that are ongoing at the same time that 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: are all global in nature, that deal with various crop 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: protection chemicals and with seeds, and there's a lot of 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: nervousness about the way the regulators are going to view 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: these deals, given what they've done with Haliburton and Baker 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Hughes and a few other deals in the past. Um 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: and whether this might be deemed too much concentration. Now 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: here's a quote, and I'd like your thoughts and maybe 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you can figure out exactly what this would mean for 67 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: people that are involved in the legal issues of this 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: potential combination. This is coming from Robert Lawrence. He's a 69 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins School of Medicine professors, also the founding director 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: of the Center for a Livable Future. He says, the 71 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: fact is we went from having probably thirty to forty 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: varieties of soybeans to now having one variety making up 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: nearly all of US soybean production. So as set aside 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: the business aspect of what this means for farmers, but 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: just in terms of having to only rely on one variety, well, 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: you know the fact that that might have happened, you know, 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: we have to understand why that happened and how that 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: came about. If that happened due to increased concentration and 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: less competition. It's one thing, but the anti trust laws 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: will focus on increased competion, competition, but a decrease in competition, 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: less innovation, and less choice from mergers. So they'll look 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: at the effect of these deals and whether these deals 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: may continue to contribute to that. They may not look at, 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, they'll look the way things stand today, but 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: they look at will it for will they further contribute 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: and if in fact it will, is there something can 87 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: that can be done? Are there concessions or divestitures or 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: let's say, changes the licenses that can be agreed to 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: in order to allow these deals to go forward and 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: perhaps fix that problem going forward? So is it give 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: us just a sense of do there are the issues 92 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: pretty much the same among antitrust regulators around the world. 93 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: If you go from the US to Germany to gosh, 94 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, Japan, is it different? It is different? You know, 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: there are many many similarities, but there are also differences. 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: And to start with in this industry, what we've seen 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: so far historically is that these regulators will look at 98 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: the effect on in this area country by country and 99 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily globally. So, for instance, if the European regulators 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: are looking at how it affects competition European Union wide 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: or country by country within Europe, that's going to be 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: different than the way the U S regulators may look 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: at it, who are focusing on how does it affect 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: the United States UH and China, which might be asking 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: how does this affect China. There are times when the 106 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: regulators will say, this is a global market, how does 107 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: it affect the world the globally? But in this area, 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: at least in the past, historically they have looked at 109 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the areas when they've assessed past deals country by country. Well, 110 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: just to just to sort of underscore your point about 111 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: this consolidation, we're talking about Dow Chemical and DuPont combining, 112 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: then c Genta, and then you've got the Chinese state 113 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: owned company KEM China KIM China, right, So a real 114 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: concentration in this particular industry group. Right. But again, the regulators, 115 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the first thing they ask is where do these companies 116 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: compete in terms of products and services? And where do 117 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: they compete geographically? And that's the starting point and you 118 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: have to ask that. And when you ask that, and 119 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: you start to look at these deals, you realize, okay, well, 120 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: KEM China and cin Ginda don't necessarily overlap in every 121 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: country in the US, and for every product, they don't 122 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: necessarily compete everywhere. And the same thing could be true. 123 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: Let's say for seeds. You know you have buyer that 124 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: isn't so big in seeds and bigger and crop protection 125 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: and and and more complementary perhaps to mind Santo, and 126 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: you've got to kind of dig into that nitty gritty 127 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: to understand where the competition issues are going to lie. 128 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I would imagine they're also going to have to learn 129 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: about the diseases that might affect No, seriously, that might 130 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: affect some of these crops, because if you're only depending 131 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: on one variety, then it doesn't matter what if did 132 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: the business. It will devastate the agricultural community. Absolutely. You know, 133 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: they dig in hard, these regulators. That's why these things 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: taken here. They look at everything. Yes, or notice, let's 135 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: go through the steel. Do they make it past just 136 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I think yes, with with some concessions. I'm thank you 137 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: very much for coming in and spending time with us. 138 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Jennifer Rees, senior litigation analysts for Bloomberg Intelligence. Shares of 139 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: Monsanto they are up about two and a half percent 140 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: right now, and shares of Buyer down about one percent. 141 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Taking Stock on Bloomberg Radio. 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