1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: It was early one morning. I was back in nineteen 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: ninety one. It was January, it was hot. I left 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: the radio on. This is Maggie Iaquinto, a Ham radio 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: operator in the small town of Kolak, Australia. And I 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: was up very early in the morning and having a 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: cup of coffee and I heard this crackle. Oh this 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: is interesting. And I heard this d heavy rushing going 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: cq cq cq. This is you two M I R 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: looking for contacts, you two M I R the Soviet 10 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: space station. I was so happy, I was unbelievably happy. 11 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: I said, well, this is it, and with great nervousness 12 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: I pressed the transmit button and I said, you two 13 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: M I R. This is VK three CFI. The handle 14 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: is Maggie over. Maggie had been trying to make contact 15 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: for years and should anyone have seen me at six 16 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: in the morning out on my little street in Kolak dancing, 17 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: and I wow, I've done it. She was about to 18 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: start a long and pretty special relationship with the Soviet 19 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: space station and with a certain cosmonaut, Sira gay K 20 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: so Sia gay Let's looted that. But Maggie's connection to 21 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Saragay wouldn't just be a cool story to whip out 22 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: it dinner parties. Within an hour, the crowd was heading 23 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: to the seat of Soviet power as the Soviet Union 24 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: unraveled in nineteen ninety one. At allmy armored personnel carriers 25 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: on the streets, it was Maggie's who would tell sarage 26 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: the truth about what was happening in his country. Armored 27 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: personnel carriers rolled by carrying scores of truths, some of 28 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: them brandishing machine guns, and Sarage and the other cosmonauts 29 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: were hungry for the news, and they called it Rita Rita, 30 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: which is my name in Russian. This is CNN breaking news. 31 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: So Rita's information. So I was their information source. Good evening. 32 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm Jane Randall in Washington. The information Maggie gave Saragey 33 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: proved crucial because it would help him make the choice 34 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: of a lifetime to stay or to go. Historians may 35 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: have trouble describing a day when Kael Garbato resigned as 36 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: the president of the Soviet Union, which had already ceased 37 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: to exist. I'm Lance Bass and from Kaleidoscope, iHeart podcast 38 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: an exile content. This is the last Soviet Helen Charmon, 39 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: becoming the first Britain in space. She blasted off with 40 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: two Soviet cosmonaut repairment on a missions Design chief need 41 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: to repair the eighteen Mirrors space station that has been 42 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: orbiting the globe for five years now. On May eighteenth, 43 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Helen Sharman, the British woman who won 44 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: the TV contest, blasted off into space. Alongside her were 45 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: the Soviet cosmonauts Sergei Krikalev and Anatoly Artabaski. They were 46 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: leaving behind a country in chaos, a country literally breaking 47 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: apart at the seams, the republics Estonia, a human chain 48 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: of protests Lithuania. Down in the Baltic Republic of Lithuania, 49 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Latvia flag was raised and they sang the national lands. 50 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: They were demanded independence. The parliament in the capital city 51 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: of Bakhu voted unanimously to make ourser Bai John an 52 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: independent republic. But at that particular moment, flying through space 53 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: in a tiny capsule, Helen wasn't really thinking about what 54 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: was happening on Earth. She was just enjoying the ride. 55 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: A few hundred kilometers above the earth surface, you can 56 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: see that the Earth is curved, you can see vasts 57 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: sections of the Pacific Ocean, the whole of Western Europe 58 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: in Mungo beautiful, inspiring. After forty eight hours, she finally 59 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: arrived at the Mere space Station. As Helen Sharman Sawyer's 60 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: spacecraft dot with the Mere Station last Monday, it was 61 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: the realization of a dream that started more than two 62 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: years ago. I remember opening the hatch I went through first. 63 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: It was just so nice to float into these long, 64 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: thin modules, feeling weightless. I remember being the most natural, 65 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: relaxing feeling I'd ever had as she floated in zero 66 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: gravity for the first time. Helen discovered her home for 67 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: the next week. Tunnels with tight walls and low ceilings, wires, screens, keyboards, 68 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: and transmitters stuck to every available surface. The space station 69 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Mirror was a technological marvel, humanity's only outpost in space, 70 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: and the Soviets had created it. But in their rush 71 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: to get it up there, comfort had to take a 72 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: back seat, so the place was kind of a dump, 73 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: reeking a mold, mites and body odor. And thanks to 74 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: my INSYNCT tour days, I can actually imagine what that 75 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: smells like like. Five sweaty teenage boys in a bus 76 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: for months. Not pretty. Helen was going up there for 77 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: a week, but anatole and sarage for five months. For 78 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: it all to work, everything had to be super organized. 79 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Mission control planned. Certainly, my time to the nearest, five minutes, 80 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: five minutes, we were told when we needed to awake 81 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: around seven am Moscow time, have a space shower, meaning 82 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: wipe your body down with a wet towel, and typically 83 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: we would have breakfast together chicken with Brunes bread, candy, coffee. 84 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Not my usual breakfast, in fact, I'm not the biggest 85 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: fan of Russian food, but I guess it's certainly feeling. 86 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: And there was only one toilets in use, so we 87 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: have to work around each other in that respect. Yeah, 88 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: in space, even something as simple as ping becomes a 89 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: whole operation. Everyone gets their own custom shaped funnel which 90 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: is attached to a vacuum hose. When you gotta go, 91 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: you have to hold the funnel right up against you 92 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: unless you want to end up surrounded by droplets of 93 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: floating pea, and that as gross. After all that, the showering, 94 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: the eating, the peeing, the cosmonauts are ready to get 95 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: down to some actual work because the station wasn't in 96 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: great shape. There were power outages, computer failures, leaks. It 97 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: needed constant maintenance and that is why our guy Sarage 98 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: was there. He was the engineer and his job was 99 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: to fix all these problems, to keep the station running, 100 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: to keep the dream of Soviet space alive. That's without Santatoli, 101 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: Arts and Varsity and their Cricolo will spend five months 102 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: and plan a record eight walks in space as they 103 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: go about repairing the Mirror Station. Helen Charman had her 104 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: own special job on Mirror Space farmer. She was growing 105 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: wheat potatoes. She even planted a lemon tree, growing food 106 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: in space. Been like mad Damon in the Martian the 107 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Scientific Experiment she took part and weren't going to win 108 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: any Nobel prizes, but it was nevertheless of British first. 109 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: And in the evenings, after they'd finished all their duties, 110 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: it was finally time to chill. Sometimes we could just relax. 111 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Is usually a good hour where there's nothing scheduled, where 112 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: you can just be together and look out the window, 113 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: talk about families and friends that we left behind. The 114 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: last couple of years had been strange for Helen she'd 115 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: quit her job, broken up with her boyfriend, and let's 116 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: face it, I'm going to Russia to train as a 117 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: cosmonaut is a pretty good excuse. She'd left her parents 118 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: behind in England and moved to the USSR. But she 119 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: was twenty seven single. Her whole life was ahead of her. 120 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: For Saragey, it's different. He recently got married to someone 121 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: in mission control actually, though she wasn't on this mission, 122 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: and now they had a baby. Sigey's daughter was born 123 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: just a few months before we flew into space, and 124 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: he would have missed her terribly. He knew that was 125 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: what his mission was assigned to do, and he knew 126 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: his wife would look after the door so beautifully. But 127 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: your babies grow up very quickly, and Segay was going 128 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: to miss a lot of that development. Over five months 129 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: in space, sarage was going to watch his daughter Orga 130 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: grow up on screen. He could only talk to his 131 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: family every two weeks. He'd miss his daughter's first words, 132 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: sitting up, crawling, and then her first steps. That's a 133 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: big deal, really, but he knew, you know that that 134 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: was his job, and he knew he was going to 135 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: do that, so he'd thought it all through accepted it, 136 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: that isolation from the Earth and the fact that you're 137 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: not with all your friends and family anymore. Over that week, 138 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: Helen listens to the usually quiet sarage began to open 139 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: up about how he's missing summer and Moscow, the long 140 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: warm evenings with friends and family, about how his daughter 141 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: is growing up without him. Every time, Saragey tells Helen 142 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more, and Helen found herself looking forward 143 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: to their evening chats. But then all too soon it's 144 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: time for Helen to return to Earth. It must have 145 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: felt weird after so much build up and training, knowing 146 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: at twenty seven the first lining for Obit has already 147 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: been written. But even stranger was having to leave Space 148 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: without Saragey and Anatoly and that final goodbye. It was 149 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: heart wrenching because I knew I was leaving them behind 150 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: in space. Not only I enjoyed it and I didn't 151 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: want to leave to return to Earth just then, but 152 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: saying goodbye to what felt like then the two best 153 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: friends I had ever had. This morning, it was warm 154 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: farewells from the two cosmonauts staying behind, to the mere 155 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: crew being relieved, and to Helen. They passed through the 156 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: hatch into their Sawyer's craft, which I'm doped from MEA 157 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: and just before half past ten this morning fired its 158 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: retro rockets. Less than half an hour later they were 159 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: parachuting to Earth. Watched firemission control and when Helen landed 160 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: back in the USSR before going home to her parents, 161 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: she actually visited Saragey's family. I went round to visit 162 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: his wife and his baby after I returned from space 163 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: while Segey was still in space. That's how close they'd become. 164 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: And my hair was, you know, I'd had it cut 165 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: quite short, and the baby Auga said dad. When I arrived, 166 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Baby Auga called Helen dad to her. Saragey was just 167 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: some stranger with short hair, much like Helen. And that's 168 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: when Helen realized exactly how much Sarahgey was missing. And 169 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: now Sarah finds himself missing Helen loneliness is starting to 170 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: gnaw at him. Downtime on the space station seems to 171 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: drag on forever, and one evening, almost out of boredom, 172 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: sarage starts flicking through the handover notes left by the 173 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: previous crew, and that's when he sees something strange amongst 174 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: the detailed log about technical issues and repairs. There's a 175 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: series of scribbles, numbers, letters, and symbols, each with dates 176 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: and times next to them. It looks like some kind 177 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: of call log, but cosmonauts only get one personal call 178 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: every week or so these are way more regular. It's 179 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: beginning to look like the last crew weren't just using 180 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: the radio to call home. They were speaking to people 181 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: all over the world, to people in Taiwan or Ireland 182 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: or Ohio, to people in their living room, to amateur 183 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: radio operators. And there's one call sign that comes up 184 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: again and again, and next to it the word Australia 185 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: v K three CFI Nervous. He tunes the radio to 186 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: the right frequency and waits nothing. The next day he 187 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: finds himself going through the motions until he can try again. 188 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Nothing days pass. Every night he keeps coming back to 189 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: the radio, listening to the same old empty cracker. But 190 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: one evening, just as he's about to call it quits, 191 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: a woman's voice Physics into Life. Two years earlier, nineteen 192 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: eighty nine, Australia. Kolak a small town just outside of Melbourne, 193 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: twelve thousand people, best known for its dairy farm somewhere 194 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: in that town. A woman is in a makeshift radio 195 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: shack in her house, trying to get through to the 196 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: Soviet space station. It's VK three CFI Maggie aya Quinto. 197 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: I can remember her dancing around the kitchen, flinging a 198 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: T twel over ahead, dancing to some type of Balkan music. 199 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: That's been Maggie's son. Maggie died in twenty fourteen, but 200 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: we spoke to her sons and to an Australian radio 201 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: producer named Jesse Burrell, who sent us an interview she 202 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: did with Maggie in twenty eleven. She had a quirky personality. 203 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: She had a fun sense of humor. She liked puns. 204 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: She liked bad action movies. She liked playing softball, She 205 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: liked Macedonian dancing. She spoke Russian. Maggie was born in 206 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: America and learned Russian at college in the early sixties, 207 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: during the height of the Cold War. She was just 208 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: fascinated with the USSR. Maggie followed the news of the 209 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Soviet Union anyway she could, reading the papers, listening to 210 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: the radio, watching TV. She was convinced that one day 211 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: she would visit, but then life guide in the way, 212 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: she met a guy and moved to Australia with him. 213 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: She had two sons and started working as a computer 214 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: teacher at the local high school in Colac. The sides 215 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: of Colac. It was a good bakery there, not exactly 216 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: what Maggie's dreams were made of. Even the bakery was 217 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: closed on weekends. No Balkan dancing club, definitely no Russians 218 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: to talk to. But Maggie had a secret weapon cable here, 219 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: all right, and so that just comes into the radio 220 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: shock here Ham radio. I always wanted to be a 221 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Ham radio operator when I was fifteen or sixteen, I 222 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: just wanted to do this. Ham Radio a way for 223 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: people to talk to each other from home using radio waves, 224 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: a more advanced version of the ten can on a string. 225 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: It promised freedom, independence, adventure. There's no way that I 226 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: can visit every country in the world, but I can 227 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: with Ham Radio. Maggie talked to all sorts of people 228 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: and even went to Ham Radio conferences on weekends. They 229 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: would always be hosted at some sort of basketball court, 230 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: and they'd just be tables set up along the walls 231 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: stacked with different types of gear, like different types of radios, 232 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: and everyone would call each other by their unique call sign. 233 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: It's like code names, a jumble of letters and numbers 234 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: that shows who's calling and where from. In Australia, all 235 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: of the Ham radio call signs start with VK. India's 236 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: vu vs Canada. You get the idea, and three represents Victoria, 237 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: so I'm VK three. And then the suffix, which is 238 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: two letters or three represents your unique identity, so I 239 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: was VK three CFI and no one else in the 240 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: world can have that call sign. And not these Ham 241 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: radio conferences, people would actually address Maggie not by her name, 242 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: but by her call sign. This is the level of 243 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: geekiness we're talking about. And then at one of these conferences, 244 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: she starts hearing a rumor, a whisper going around the 245 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: community that a handful of Hams have managed to get 246 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: through to space, not just any space, but space behind 247 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: the Iron curtain, the space station mirror. Maggie can't get 248 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: it out of her head, the idea of speaking to 249 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: a real Soviet and she starts thinking, maybe this is 250 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: my chance to finally visit the USSR, even if her 251 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: little patch of the Soviet Union would be two hundred 252 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and fifty miles up in space, and so Maggie gets 253 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: to work. She had already turned her spare bedroom into 254 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: a sort of radio shack, like something out of a 255 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: seventy science fiction film, cables MIC's audio equipment and the 256 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: radio itself. But even this gear isn't sophisticated enough to 257 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: pick up the signal she's after from space. The sheer 258 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: distance makes it really, really hard. So Maggie buys a 259 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: second radio for her kitchen and fixes a giant antenna 260 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: to the roof of her house. Then she wires it 261 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: all up to an old Tashiba laptop, a real doorstopper. 262 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: Everything's set up ready to go. Maggie tunes the transceiver 263 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: to the right frequency for the Soviet space station you 264 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: Tube M I R and nothing. She does this over 265 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: and over again every day. She wakes up before five, 266 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: while her sons are still sleeping. She pads into the kitchen, 267 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: tunes in and listens. In the middle of the night, 268 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: after she's finished work, planned lessons, marked essays, made dinner, 269 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: got her sons ready for bed, she sits up in 270 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: the dark listening, and usually she's got the TV news 271 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: on in the background, and every night the news brings 272 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: stories of chaos from the Soviet Union check points across 273 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Berlin had finally buckled. The Berlin Wall falls November nine, 274 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. A few weeks later in Czechoslovakia, the 275 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: people overthrow the Communist governed will give offense monopoly on power. 276 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: A month later, in Romania, people shoot their dictator. Chow 277 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: Ku is dead, so is his wife. Two years pass. 278 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: You heard that right, Two years And all this time 279 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: Maggie keeps trying to reach the Soviet space station, getting 280 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: up on the roof to tinker with her antenna, buying 281 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: and barring every piece of equipment she can. But still 282 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: her chances are slim because Mirror is in constant rotation 283 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: around the Earth. It's only above Australia for ten minutes 284 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: a time, a few times a day. To catch it, 285 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: Maggie has to be on the right frequency at the 286 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: exact right time, and she starts to feel like she's 287 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: running out of options, like nothing she tries is working. 288 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: Until one warm morning in January nineteen ninety one, the 289 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: sun is just beginning to spread across the roofs of 290 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Colac and Maggie sits in her radio shack, sipping a 291 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: warm cup of coffee, and I heard this deep hey 292 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: Russian going c q c q c q. This is 293 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: you too, am I r looking for contacts? Oh, I 294 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: have been waiting two years to talk to you. Yahoo 295 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: shoo to talk to you. So I am such a 296 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: happy person. I am very very happy. And what can 297 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: I tell you about us? To it over? Finally, Maggie 298 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: had reached the Soviet Union, and soon the person she 299 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: was speaking to almost every day was Sergei Krakov. I 300 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: remember waking up one morning, There'll be this loud static 301 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: it'd be five in the morning, five thirty in the morning. 302 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Are times when they're having their free time they go 303 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: talk to us. See this deep, powerful Russian voice calling 304 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: my mother. Rico, you just get shocked into a wiking 305 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: and he hears the thick Russian accent, this guy, and 306 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: so you know, you put in your class and it 307 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: kind of stumble down the hall into the radio shack. 308 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good morning, good evening. They would speak in 309 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: a mixture of English and Russian. Maggie called it runglish. 310 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: I have too little, sir over Do you have a wife? 311 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: Do you have any children? He even talked to the 312 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: students in her computer class. The house would be packed 313 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: if with students from school, and they would line up 314 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: to ask questions and Maggie would translate. I can remember 315 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: they were speaking in these really strong Australian accents, like 316 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: Sarah Gay, what do you eat in spice? What do 317 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: you do when? The communication wasn't always the smoothest, but 318 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: that didn't matter. The desire to communicate, that was the 319 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: truly wonderful part about being a him radio operators. Gay 320 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: was really into him radio Oh my goodness. In fact, 321 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: he called her more than she called him. Sire Gay 322 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: and I had this relationship and he wanted to communicate 323 00:23:48,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: with me. Sarah Gay needed Maggie because deep down he 324 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: was struggling. When Sarage left the Soviet Union, the country 325 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: was in turmoil, food was in short supply, millions were 326 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: taking to the streets and protest. There was this tinderbox 327 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: feeling like anything could happen. And now whenever he asks 328 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: Mission control what's going on back home, he gets a 329 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: breezy it's fine, a brush off, a change of subject. 330 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: So he gets uneasy, frustrated. But then Sarage realizes there 331 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: is a way he can get information, information that isn't 332 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: filtered through mission control, and he can get that from 333 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: his friend in Australia, from Maggie, and so he asks her, 334 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: what's going on in my country? What are you hearing now? 335 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: We just scour the newspapers and I'd rewrite articles in 336 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: very simple English, and I would leave it in my system. 337 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: She figured out a way to send the computer on 338 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: her written messages, which meant she could type up news. 339 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: It was easier than reading out whole articles over a 340 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: bad connection. My own system was a tiny bulletin board. 341 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: They would read those articles. They loved reading all that stuff. 342 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: They didn't get that information from their own central so 343 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: I was their information source. Moscow was losing its grip 344 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: on the Soviet Union. The rebels are using every kind 345 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: of weapon they can lay hands for seventy two years 346 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: of foreign domination. Armenia has declared itself independent from the 347 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: Soviet Union. Sarage starts to feel like he's losing it, 348 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: far away from home, floating in a black void, left 349 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: in the dark, until finally, in July nineteen ninety one, 350 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: mission control calls him. They say, look, there's a problem. 351 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: States are breaking away and we're worried Kazakhstan will be next. 352 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: If we lose Kazakhstan, we lose our launch pad bikan Nor. 353 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: If we lose Biknor, we lose our access to space. 354 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: But they say, we've got an idea. We want to 355 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: send a Kazak cosmonaut to Mirror as an olive branch, 356 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: a way to keep the Kazakhs on our side. The 357 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: thing is, and here's the hitch. He's not experienced, and 358 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: he's not an engineer. He definitely won't be able to 359 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: take care of the station. So, Sarah game, we're giving 360 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: you a choice. You can come back to Earth, back 361 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: to your family as planned, and abandon the station to 362 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: an unknown fate. Or you can stay as long as 363 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: it takes and protect the station, our last hope. You 364 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: have three hours to decide to stay or to go. 365 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: That's next time on The Last Soviet. The Last Soviet 366 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: is a Kaleidoscope production in partnership with iHeart Podcast and 367 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: Exile Media, produced by Sama's Dat Audio and hosted by 368 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: me Lance Bass Executive produced by Kate Osbourne and Mangesh Hadakador, 369 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: with Oz Wallisham and Kostas Linos from iHeart Executive Produced 370 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: by Katrina Norvelle and Nikki E Torre from Sama's Dad Audio. 371 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Joe Sykes and Dasha Listsina. Produced 372 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: by Asia Fuchs, Dasha litz Sa and Joe Sykes. Writing 373 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: by Lydia Marchant, Research by Mika Golubovski and Molly Schwartz, 374 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Music by Will Epstein, Themed by Martin Orstring, mixing and 375 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: sound designed by Richard Ward and special thanks to Nando 376 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: villa We, Lissa Pollock, Will Pearson, Connel BYRNE, Bob Pittman 377 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: and Isaac Lee. Many thanks to Ben and josh Iya 378 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: Quinto for letting us use some of their mom Maggie's 379 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: incredible recordings, and to Australian radio producer Jesse Barrell for 380 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: the interview she did with Maggie in twenty eleven. 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