1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for our daily Bloomberg Law and Brief, 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news. It's brought to you 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: by American Arbitration Association. Business disputes are inevitable, resolve faster 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: with the American Arbitration Association, the global leader in alternative 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: dispute resolution for over ninety years. More at a d 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: r dot org. Today, Bloomberg LA host Michael Best discusses 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: a patent dispute over the gene editing technology known as Crisper. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: He speaks with the Jacob Scherkau, a professor at New 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: York Law School. Why don't you explain how it is 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: that we ended up in a patent fight over this technology? Sure, so, 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: Berkeley filed some original patent applications covering their iteration of 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: the Crisper technology back in the Broad Institute, then filed 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: some of their patents covering a different version of the 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: technology a couple of months later. Broods patents, even though 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: they were filed later, were awarded first, while Berkeley's patents 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: languished at the PTO. This set up a particular procedure 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: at the Patent office called an interference. What what does 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: that mean? An interference in patent law, great question. It's 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: one of the more arcane and complicated procedures at the 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: Patent Office, which probably is saying a lot. And interference 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: is where one party declares that someone else's patents are 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: interfering with their ability to get their's issued by the PTO. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: In this particular case, Berkeley was claiming that the grant 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: of Brodes patents were interfering with their ability to get 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: their patents issued by the Patent Office. To resolve that, 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: they needed a decision from the Patent Trial and Appeal 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Board as to whether that was true. What exactly did 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: the Patent Trial and Appeal Board rule? Sure? So, the 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Patent Trial and Appeal Board said, even though we originally 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: thought that Brodes patents were interfering with Berkeley's patent application, 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: that's not in fact true. The particular judgment that was 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: handed down from the Patent Trial and Appeal Board was 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: called a no interference in fact and essentially a do over. 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Berkeley gets to go back to the Panent Office and 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: continue to prosecute their patent application. But and this is 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: where things get particularly important. Broods patents remain valid going forward. 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: So does that mean that both cal Berkeley's scientists and 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Broad scientists may be able to licensees technology and make 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money both of them. That is definitely 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: a possibility. It's going to depend on what Berkeley's strategic 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: move is next. They could appeal the decision to the U. S. 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, which could either 43 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: affirm what the Patent Office had said or reverse it. 44 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: At the same time, Berkeley could also go back to 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: the patent office and see exactly what the examiner is 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: going to say about whether they're entitled to patents that 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: are broader or narrower than the ones that Broad has. Now, 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: that's j gb shirk Our, professor at New York Law School, 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: speaking with the Bloomberg Lah host Michael Best. You can 50 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: listen to Bloomberg Law weekdays at one pm Wall Street 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Time here on bloom Radio and Now. 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