WEBVTT - Kathie Lee Gifford (Part 2) 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.200 Hello, This is Craig Ferguson, letting y'all know that I 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.720 am still out on the road with my Fancy Rascal 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.319 tour this week in the following beautiful places. October tenth 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.079 at the Magoffin Auditorium in El Paso, Texas. October the 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:19.040 eleventh at the Wagner Noelle Performing Arts Center in Midland, Texas. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.800 And October thirteenth to the fifteenth at the Houston Improv 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:28.280 Comedy Club in Houston, Texas. I promise I will not 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.080 mess with Texas, or I might. I can't make a 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.040 commitment at this point. For a fullest of dates, please 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.960 go to my website, the Craig Fergusons Show dot com 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:43.199 slash tour. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.960 this podcast is Joy. I talk to interest in people 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:54.680 about what brings them happiness. Welcome to Kathy Lee Gifford 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.400 Part two. Kathy Lee Gifford is so bonkers and so 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.920 interesting that we had to give her a two parts. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:09.720 The second bit, yeah, are you up and running? 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.319 Okay? Noise with this, so that's all right. Look, if 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:14.520 people know that you. 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.800 Sometimes have a beverage, yes that has ice in it. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.240 And a little straw, which I think is that it's 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.240 not the most European way of drinking wine. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:24.640 I've ever seen. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.440 But I think that you're not European. It's okay, I am. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:33.200 I was born in France. That's born in Paris, France. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.080 You're a French Messianic Jew. Yes, I think you're it. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.400 I think I'm maybe the only one. Wow. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.560 Yes, And so I now have been up since I 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.479 literally got up this morning at twelve forty five, and 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.760 I said, even for me, that's early that it is 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.440 now one o'clock in the afternoon here, and so I'm 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.880 having a little glass of white wine. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.000 I'm not judging. You can't. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.440 No, you never have, but so people know, with a 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.520 little bit of ice in it. I usually have episoda 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.440 with it too, you know, so that I can spritzer. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.320 Spritzer a spritzer. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:07.080 It's just fine. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:07.520 Listen. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.720 When we talked before, yes, we talked a lot about religion. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.480 And I know you can talk a lot about that 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.960 and look to be honest, I love you, but you 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.000 can talk a lot about pretty much anathing. So we 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.400 talked a lot about religion. I want to talk to 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.480 you a little bit about when I first met you 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.120 and where you were. I remember the first meeting I 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.760 ever had with you, and I don't know if you remember. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:28.960 That was it the Drew Carey Show. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.679 Was at the Drew Carey Show. And I was eighth 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.640 banana on that show. My first child had just been born. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.000 So that was twenty two years ago. Twenty two years ago, 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.720 and you I was just doing a guest starring. You 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.280 were guest starring. It was right, you were still doing. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.799 Regious Is it regu It would still be reading it 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.359 was mid nineties, No. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.960 It was I left Regis in two thousand. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:51.640 Right, so we hadn't just been born. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.679 He was about to be born, okay, because it was 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.520 mid nineties or late nineties or two thousand, even he 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:57.720 was born in two thousand. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.360 Okay, that's the year I did leave Regis, all right, 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.120 not personally, you know. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.519 It remained my dear, dear, dear friend thirty more years. Yes, 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.799 I love you. Yeah, I just left the show, right, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.480 But you were so kind to me. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.800 You were a big, big, this big star coming in 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.800 and do a spot on the on the show, and 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:16.480 I was eighth banana on the show, and you gave 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.639 me some kids books for my. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.200 Who was not born. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.840 Yeah, for your like, here's so you get them, Marrily, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.720 You're like coca cola. 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.120 You get Coca cola is not necessarily good for you. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.320 What I got, what I've got good for you. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:36.440 You said that before, and I just I remember thinking 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:37.640 at the time, Wow, that. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.600 Is a class act. That is a class act. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.320 And I haven't changed my opinion one iota since then 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:44.120 about that. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:48.440 We've been in bed together for for for entertainment, for entertainment. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.760 That's right, It's available on Netflix. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:54.760 Then came you, everybody. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.400 I don't know why I'm plugging it. I don't get 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.760 resid juels. You get them, No, I don't. All right, Okay, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.560 So here's the thing though. But you were at that 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.040 time with Regis, yes, professionally, and you were with Frank 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.080 matrimonially yes at the time. Yes, And I want to 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.960 talk to you a little bit about the man because. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.280 Regis, Regis and Frank. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.840 But let's talk a little because you are and I 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.080 mean this in a very complimentary and in no way 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:26.520 the judgmental or anything, but you are a very heterosexual woman. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:32.039 Oh yes, and you're a vibrant, funny, sexy woman. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.720 Now, yeah, tell me, well, it's the truth. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:35.640 Thank you. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.680 So I think to myself, well, professionally, you're working with 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.400 Regis and you're with this. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:42.919 God of an athlete Frank. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:43.640 Yes, as well. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:44.919 How did you meet Frank? 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:49.119 I met Frank early, early, early in nineteen eighty two 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.479 when I just signed for a year long that was 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.120 it stint on the Good Morning America and they were 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.560 grooming me to take over for John London. But I 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.960 would certainly not aournalists. But they said, we're not interested 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.000 in a journalist. We want somebody. Then it was under 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.560 the auspices of ABC Entertainment, not News, so they weren't 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.840 necessarily looking for a journalist. They were looking for somebody 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.400 that would be comfortable on camera and could talk to 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.840 a rock and make the rock laugh in some instances, 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.880 you know, And that's I don't know that you can 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.640 learn that. That's something that's sort of innate. Comes from 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.960 I'm sorry, Every good and perfect gift scripture says comes 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.560 from above, from the Father of the heavenly realms, who 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.400 does not change like shifting shadows. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.440 Right, So. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.040 Again, yes, everything goes back to him. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.000 So where to come from? 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.880 I went to Bora Roberts University to be a drama 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.240 what is I don't it's been so many year. It 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.479 was a drama measure with a music minor and it 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:54.960 was just it was a it was a waste of time, yes, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.440 but I was the only Jew there and the only 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.279 one who didn't speak in tongues, so it was it 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:03.360 was problematic for me. Yeah, and back then, back then, yeah, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.479 I was the only one with the maiden name of Epstein. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.960 Let's put it that way. And it was what they 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:15.039 call a charismatic Pentecostal university. No, it wasn't that kind. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.119 It wasn't that extreme, but it was you know, gifts 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.039 of the Holy Spirit, which I do believe in, is 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.279 just not one that I have. I've prayed for the 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.240 gifts of the spirit to speak in tongues, and God 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.040 said that the tongue I've given you is enough. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.239 It's doing fine. I don't know. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.359 I don't think the world can take many more languages 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.640 that I see. Anyway, I learned to to sort of 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.680 just accept things like that along the way. I didn't 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.240 want to feel less then because I didn't have that gift. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.120 God said, concentrate on the ones I've given you. You know, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.160 so many people in our world are miserable because well, 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.400 why didn't I don't have what they have? 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.280 How come you didn't give me that? Lord? 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.000 How come I don't My thighs don't look like whatever? 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.320 It is? The pault In Philippi, all of his books 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.240 in the New Testament, talks so much about the fact 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.440 that we The whole idea of walking with Jesus is 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.720 learning to be content in the moment. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.720 I totally agree with that. Gratitude is a silver bullet. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.360 Gratitude is the way every time, and you can militate, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.360 you can find some That gratitude is wait. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.280 Exactly, instead of bitching and moaning about what you don't 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.600 have and missing out on all the blessing that's. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.640 Sitting right there. I tricked, you're going to talk to 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.080 me about how you met Frank. Yes, thank you. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.480 So anyway, back then I was doing commercials too, like 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.440 they used to do on the Today Show with the 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.640 David Garrison was that his name, early early days where 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.640 they stopped the show and then they do a dog 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.720 commercial or really I don't remember that. Yeah, the early 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.120 days of the Today Show were like that. So they 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.400 were still doing that. So I had to do a 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.720 basset hound a commercial with a basset hound at four 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.600 in the morning, right, And it was for Alpo. So 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.280 I came in, got my hair and makeup. Yes, it's 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:52.720 a very glamorous business. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.040 You're a tireless per. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.480 It was four o'clock and I already had full hair 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.360 and makeup and I'm ready to shoot with a Mellie 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.360 Bassett hound and do an Apple commercial. So I'm walking 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.240 down along very lonely stairwell, not a stairwell, but at 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.760 hall because nobody's there hardly, right, And I look over 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.160 to the left of me, and there's the greatest set 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.480 of buns I have ever seen in my life, leaning 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.920 over a sink, obviously putting in contact lenses. I have 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.960 no idea who the buns belonged to, but they got 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:24.520 my attention. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.600 So you're saying to me that it was Frank Gifford's 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.800 ass was the first thing that you went this is 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:31.800 very interesting. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.840 To It was beautiful. I am a beauty lover, you know, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.760 I mean, I can appreciate. Can I tell you the 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.960 last day of his life? The man said the same ass. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.200 It's unbelievable. Wow, that's why he was one of the 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.480 great tight ends of all time. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.600 Okay, So frankly contact lenses in with his great ass, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:51.160 and what happens? 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.240 You're like, hey, sailor, got a cigarette for a girl? 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.120 No, No, I just immediately said what comes to my mind, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.120 usually without any filter at all, and I said, have 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.800 I got an operation for you? Because I had just 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.640 had an operation called radial caratotomy, which was a precursor 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:07.360 to lasik. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:07.760 Oh. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.319 Yeah, that's when they cut the surface of your cornea 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.120 with a razor blade. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.920 Yeah. I got that done, yes, before it was lasik. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.679 No, only a thousand people in all of America had 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.000 it done at that time, right, But I knew six 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.520 of them, and they had perfect eyesight, and went, I'm 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.320 doing that. So I just had that operation and I 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.240 went from twenty four hundred in each eye. I was 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.679 I was legally blind, So I got it, and I 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.600 went to twenty twenty in both eyes. It was just 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.400 and so I said, have I got an operation for you? 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.720 And from the face that's in the sink, I hear yeah, 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.199 with a fool on either end, an operation with a 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.240 fool on either end. And I went, well, well, well 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:46.640 aren't we see this earlier? 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.679 Yeah. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.959 I didn't recognize the voice at first, and he had 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.040 such an iconic. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.280 Voice as well, from the wide white world. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.600 Yes, and from well wide white world sports at that 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:57.640 time and Monday night football. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.400 It was very big. Oh yeah, still pretty I think 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.160 he's still pretty big. He was. He was on it 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:03.640 for third twenty eight years. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:08.400 Yeah, he had two unbelievable careers in football and then 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:09.160 in broadcasting. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:09.480 He was. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.720 He blazed a trail for everything. He's got an amazing 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.679 book called The Glory Game, and he wrote quite a 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.959 few books about his start in the you know when 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.960 he used dog food and his father was an itinerant oil, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.319 and how grateful he was for everything in. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.040 Football, basically football at the time. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.000 My family was I had a father and a brother 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.520 who were big Baltimore, Baltimore Colts fans because I grew 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.400 up in Annapolis, Maryland, and we hated the Giants, so 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.600 they did. I didn't hate them, but they were then 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.120 that game, that Glory Game, that the nineteen fifty eight 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.840 I think championship game was between the Baltimore Colts and 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.920 the New York Giants. Right, So I was aware of football, 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.640 of course, but I was I've never been a maniac 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.640 about it, right, And I like sports, but I don't 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.760 live for them, all right, so you know who Frank 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.920 has because everybody in the whole world knew who Frank 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.360 Gifford was. And I'd heard scuttle butt around the studio 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.480 that he was, you know, in a very unhappy marriage 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.120 and everybody adored him. But she was, you know, not 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.880 a very nice lady. And why in the world did 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.760 he marry her a kind of thing. And it was 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.839 his second wife, and you know, there's who's already had 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.720 children and everything. He's twenty three years older than me, right, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:23.000 so and so there was there was Later I started 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.040 working as host whenever John London wasn't there, and he 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.600 would be there whenever David Hartman wasn't there. So we 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.679 started to work actually together a little bit on the 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.600 days when nobody else wanted to be there. Nobody was 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.679 watching at home, so we were the b team and 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.800 we just became friends. And he you know, you were 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.600 friends first, oh, for four years, really four years we 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.760 were friends. His marriage eventually was on the rocks, and 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.080 he was in the process of divorce to his second wife, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.240 and and and he just he was like my champion. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.200 He would call the producers and say I'm watching the show. 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.960 Why is Kathy's seat down so low? Why change? 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:00.959 I know? Joan? 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.160 Joan was taller than I was, and so her seat 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.360 was set at a perfect at a certain and I'd 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.800 sit down next to David Hartman, I'd look like a muppet, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.160 you know. And so he cared about things like that. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.240 Right, it sounds patty, but actually matters in that world. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.800 Oh it does. It's it's it's perception. What is that 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.040 little person? It takes your your mind off what you 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.360 should You should be listening to what somebody's saying, you know. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.840 And so we just started having lunch together, started having 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.840 dinner together. Every time there was something that happened in 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.360 his life that was really traumatic, he would call me 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.320 and he'd said, Kath, can I take you to lunch? 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.120 Can I will you go to dinner with me? My 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.040 brother's dying of you know whatever. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:44.480 This just happened. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.040 I just saved a guy's life on a private plane 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.160 and was going down and the pilot had had a 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.440 heart attack. Tell me, yeah, well he back then he 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.280 was private planes all the time. He was working for 0:12:56.320 --> 0:13:01.199 an Abisco and NBC ABC, and so they flew privately 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.120 lots of places to games and things like that. One 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.800 day he was on the Nabisco plane I believe it was. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.199 And it was just a you know, a small jet 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.240 with maybe seat six people and had a pilot and 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.319 a co pilot right and all of a sudden it 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.200 was going along and all of a sudden co pilot 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.520 comes back. They felt a jerk co pilot because Frank, Frank, hurry, 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.640 come up, come in front, helped me out, helped me out. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.560 Frank just got out of his seat. It's a coach, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.360 put me in. He goes up there and the very 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.600 very overweight captain had had a massive heart attack and 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.760 his girth was on all the all the He's leaning 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.439 on the leaning on everything, leaning on everything. And so 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.960 Frank frantically tries to get the man back off the 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.640 controls and save his life if he can. Right back then, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.200 back then we thought that that could help with you 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.240 do the mouth's mouth and no, then it's really just 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.680 the compression. Apparently they don't do that anymore. I don't 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.320 know why. That's if you're choking, But I don't know. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.360 I'm not a doctor. Don't believe anything I say. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.640 I'm not expecting you to the people. I'm talking to 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.320 the listeners at all. I know you don't believe anything. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.200 I believe a lot of things you said, but I 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:11.040 don't take medical advice from you. It's okay you drink 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:12.440 waning with ice cubes and a straw. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.440 It's not there, believe you. 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.920 So that straw, by the way, So I don't leave 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.920 lip marks like I did before on the on the beautiful. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.320 I've told you before. You do not need to get 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.320 defensive about it. It's I think it's totally fine. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:29.320 So listen. 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.800 So it happened the plane and his mouth was bloodied 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.360 from trying to save this man's life. That's the man 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.720 that comes home traumatized and calls me and goes, Kathy, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:38.320 can we can? 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.240 But I need to know that the pilot he died. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.560 He died, he died, And so the co pilot lands 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.160 a plane with this dead guy next to him. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.400 And then and the two days later, Frank speaks at 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.600 his funeral and he called you. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:52.120 When he landed. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:52.440 Yeah. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.680 Yeah, So I guess that's there's your answer. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.600 I was his best friend, Yeah, his best female friend. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.240 He had a lot of real good you know. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.600 I can imagine Frank get her that good mail buddies. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.560 Oh he had great good mailk brud, but he had 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.640 everybody loved Frank. Frank didn't love everybody else. He could 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.080 not tolerate assholes. Pardon my French, but that was his 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.360 word for it. Yeah, he knew that his days were 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.560 coming to an end at a certain point. And he goes, Kath, 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.640 I don't want a funeral. I don't want to be 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.400 in a box. I want to be cremated. I said, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.600 they're still in a box. He goes, I don't know. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.200 I just don't like him kind of rotting in a 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.360 box me either. I want to be cremated too, because 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.240 I'm not going to be there. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.040 I'm not going to I want to be in a 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.320 Viking loan ship. Yeah, sand out to sea and then 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:36.400 say it on fire. 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.520 That's a lot sexier than just so you do eventually 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:41.800 want to be cremated. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.480 Yeah, but in a Viking long ship with arrows fired 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:45.360 by my sons. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:47.760 Is that what they used to do? 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.760 That was so my sons are on the shore and 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.080 they've got flaming arrows, and I get pushed out to 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.280 the sea and then the fire, the fire. I'm on 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.440 this thing on the Viking long ship, and the flaming 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.120 arrows hit the hit the boat and then I, you know, 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.560 I burn up and go into the ether and the 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:04.560 boat goes there. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.120 Not probably good for the environment, but the sexiest hell 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:09.080 bye bye. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.560 You know, sometimes you just gotta carbon footprint your way 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:13.000 out of here. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:21.200 So can I give your eulogy? Yeah? Yeah, he was 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.360 the greatest of us. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.120 I would talk about the time my thood dropped. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.920 Say that word. That is such a naughty word to me. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.360 We're not in Scotland to play in Scotland, I don't know. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.120 I don't think they love me very much over there. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.600 But then they're foolish. Oh god, I'll go over and 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.000 I'll I'll I tell them what to say and what 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:42.480 to think. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.480 This is an official invitation to the Fancy Vascal stand 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.960 up Show. I Craig Ferguson will be performing this fall 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.040 in your region. You can buy tickets and check out 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.720 the full list of dates at the Craig Ferguson show 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.480 dot com slash sure see you. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:02.720 There or not. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.320 We're talking about you and Frank. So you and Frank 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.399 are friends for four years. So when did you realize 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:13.439 you're falling in love with him? 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.800 Then you know what it was around June. It was 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:21.280 before the US Open maybe end of May, and I 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.199 had broken up with this guy I'd been going with 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.080 for a couple of years. Frank couldn't stand him because 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:27.480 Frank said, Kathy, that guy's not. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:27.919 In love with you. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.440 He's in love with him, so he's working the room. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.120 He's not he's not in love with you. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.320 And he said, please tell me you're not going to 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.439 marry this guy, Like, well, I might, you know, I mean, 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:37.840 come on, you don't. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.159 I don't tell you who to marry. And he was. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.960 He was by then. His divorce was like almost final. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.040 I love that. This is all the makings of like 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.040 Nora Efron comedy. And it was amazing. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.360 And the life we had together was because our worlds 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:56.120 collided and yet meshed perfectly. He was sports, he was politics. 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:57.840 His daughter was married to Kennedy. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:59.080 He knew all of them. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.440 He knew that am G and Conna, he knew everybody. 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.800 Okay, that's not really politics, Kathy, that's no what I'm saying. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:05.240 The other world. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.119 It was a mafia. It was politics, it was it 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:07.920 was everything. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:09.000 Because that's scary. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.960 No, his daughter was married to Bobby and Ethel's son 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.479 Michael who died tragically in that aspens Ski accident. So 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:21.040 I mean, that's a whole other discussion for it. Is 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:21.720 there more wine? 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.159