WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Dak Out 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.160 Cowboys. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:16.520 This He's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:17.880 World headquarters at. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.880 The Star in Frisco. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:26.400 Six second Pascott tidays tis not touchdown and. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:32.800 Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:38.480 Kyle Yeomans. It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.640 presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.560 in Frisco, Texas, in the SWBC studios. We've got Patrick 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.560 no C Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Tommy Yarris with Chris Beam 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.000 in the back. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.400 I'm Kyle Yeomans. A little breaking news right off the top. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.160 If you want to be a part of Talking Tuesday, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.120 give us a call. Eight eight eight eight y five 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.760 two two nine seven. Be taking your calls shortly. But 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.600 first it is over for the season for Dak Prescott. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.440 It is. I'm over here working two phones in the MAC. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.960 And I got two nice so we make it work. Hey, Hey, hey, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.040 hey God. One for the breaking and one for the news. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.440 Kyle, Kevin Gates job is in the building, all right, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.640 So all right, check out more of the details on 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.480 Dallas Cowboys dot com. We just got that published. It's up, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.120 it's live, it's breaking. Jerry Jones Tails one oh five 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.959 three the Fan. The long expected procedure is actually going 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.520 to take place on Dak Prescott to repair his partially 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.480 torn hamstring on Wednesday in New York, which is where 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.679 he went to get his final medical opinion. He sought 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.120 out several opinions on what was going on with his 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.120 hamstring with the hopes of there being a slim chance 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.240 of him possibly returning this season. But the hopes were 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.040 always going to be slim, and now the decision has 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.080 been made. So Wednesday in New York, Dak Prescott gets 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:05.760 his partially torn hamstring surgically repaired. He will then be 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.560 moved to IR if not today, and that's going to 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.760 do it for Dak Prescott for twenty twenty four. You 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.239 will see him in twenty twenty five. We'll get a 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.519 prognosis on his timetable for return as far as how 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.480 this will affect the beginning of the offseason program over 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.640 the next several days or so, but that's where we are. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.680 It's officially as Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones reiterated today 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.960 on the Fan, as it stands, it is the Cooper 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:29.560 Russ Show. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:29.839 Yep. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:31.400 So that's where we are. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.320 Yeah, we talked about it a little bit yesterday, just 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.520 kind of the thought process behind Cooper or Trey. I 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.840 actually enjoyed hearing his side of it of saying that 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.880 you can't discount what he did when he went four 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.799 and one filling in for the five games for Dak 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:45.960 Prescott in twenty twenty two. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.040 Of course you cannot discount it, which is true. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.679 But I think we've all said this on this show 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.839 before that it is a different situation than twenty twenty two. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.160 You don't have an offensive line, you don't have separations 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.359 from your wide receivers. I think at some point, if 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.680 the product can continues to look at or look like 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.119 what it did against Philadelphia offensively, I think there will 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.040 be a switch made at some point this season. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:09.919 You just can't necessarily do that right now. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.400 You can't say, hey, one opportunity, it's done, it's good, and. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.960 Then we're gonna make a switch. Sorry Cooper. I don't 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.800 think that's fair to him and fair to what is happening. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:25.880 But oh, there's more news here regarding that wasn't the 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.040 only thing that's not that's not it. You're ready for this, Okay. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.680 This season is quite literally the definition of Murphy's Murphy's low. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:33.519 Okay. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:38.560 So, Cooper Rush, Apparently Jerry Jones kind of let it 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.760 slip casually as he was talking to the fan on 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.640 that that fumbled snap that Cooper Rush suffered after the 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.760 Cowboys got him the ball back and we talked about 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.920 that that can't happen. Apparently he strained his neck on 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.360 that play trying to recover that ball. So let me 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.440 just let me say this again, Okay, at the top 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.320 of this, as we talk about having lost franchise quarterback 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:08.960 for the remainder of the season, your immediate backup possibly 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.240 is now less than one hundred percent going into this 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.040 game against the Houston Texas on Monday Night football because 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:19.000 on an error of his own devices, of his own making, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.640 he strained his neck trying to delete that error. So 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.640 now that's something to watch this week in practice for 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.760 Cooper Rush. Will he be on the injury report with 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:33.159 a next strain possibly? And if so, you know, the 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.719 Cowboys obviously they know that, knew that when they declared 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.400 that Cooper Rush would be the starter against the Texans. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.560 But now you really have to wonder how long or 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.240 short is that rope as far as Cooper Rush. If 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.120 he goes out there and he starts struggling, be it 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.360 because of the next strain or you know, the next strain? Notwithstanding, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.120 what does that look like for Trey Lance? 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.640 I think that's the thing is Jerry mentioned the fact 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.360 that there is a rope. The rope exists for Cooper Rush. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.599 He's not pulling the rope yet. But that's my question 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.600 is how long is it? How long do you have 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.479 until you see Trey Lance? And then Mike McCarthy I 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.479 think alluded to it yesterday that they're in the process 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:13.760 of signing a third quarterback. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.279 Right so, as it stands, the Cowboys are expected to 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.119 re sign a reunion. We like our reunions in Dallas, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.240 don't we will. Greer is expected to rejoin the Dallas Cowboys, 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.400 but not on the active roster. He's expected to design 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.200 to the practice squad, which means they will need to 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.640 make a corresponding move because the practice squad right now 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.080 is maxed out at seventeen if you include in Zel 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:39.320 Dackson with the ipp exception exemption. So Will Greer obviously 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.560 he spent two or three years with the Cowboys, and 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.640 then he was released, and then he spent a couple 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.000 of times, a couple of stints with some other teams. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.080 But now back in the building pending physical So as 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.400 long as he clears his physical and all is well, there, 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:58.360 Cowboys and Will Grill, Will Greer will reunite, maybe as 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.120 early as today. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.560 Interesting, good to know you weren't here for the Will 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.960 Greer drama. But there was some very emotion Yeah, there 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.960 was a little emotional drama back and forth. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.280 Interesting telling, all right. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.839 So Greer had been fighting, fighting, fighting to get onto 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.520 the field. Actually felt for him, Yeah, I did. And 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.400 he's a really great dude, as you will find out 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.039 in the locker room. He was fighting for a couple 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.480 of seasons, two or three seasons to get on the field. Uh, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.880 and it just wasn't necessarily working out for him. He 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.479 had some flashes, he had some struggles, and just when 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.360 he really thought that he was about to break through, 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.160 the Cowboys and a fourth round pick to the San 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.760 Francisco forty nine ers and acquired Trey Lance and immediately 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:42.200 thereafter Will Greer's first stint with the Cowboys assuming the 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.960 second stint in NEX this week was ended and it 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.120 was very emotional. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.000 They gave him one final tryout too, with Trey Lance 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.040 standing on the sideline. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.520 They went up against the Raiders in the final balled out. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:59.240 He went maniac mode and then it was a very 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.599 emotional game for him, you know, teary type thing because 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:03.240 he really wanted it. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.000 That was a tough press conference. It was a tough 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:05.679 press conference. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.799 So, I mean, who knows, because you know, Trey Lance 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.560 is not in the contract for twenty twenty five and 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.120 we want to see this evaluation. It's not happening quite yet, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.120 so will Greer right now twenty twenty five. 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.520 So you're saying there's a cheat. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.080 Hit, we'll see he is here. So there's the state 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.240 of your quarterback room, Josh. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.800 I want to get your thought process on on Dak 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.040 season ending surgery. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.360 Not necessarily a surprise, but now it's actually official. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.440 Yeah, it's no surprise, it's it's I'm surprised it didn't 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.720 happen last week. But again, Dak was trying to find 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.320 different options because. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.120 He wasn't quitting right, He was not giving up. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.800 He was not giving up, and he was trying to 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.680 do everything he possibly could to see the field again 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:44.120 this year. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.160 That will not happen. But I am in. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.080 A way relieved that he doesn't have to play for 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.239 the remainder of the year. With the way the offensive 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.320 line is playing, with the way that you know, we 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.320 were calling for him to be mobile and to pick 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.280 up yards on the ground. Obviously it just didn't work 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.520 out that way. It's it's unfortunate. You hate to see 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.040 that again. To Dak Prescott, I'm I don't want to 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.080 I don't want to put it out there that he's 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:11.920 in the Romo years, you know what I mean, Like 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.080 he's at the towards the end of Romo's career where 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.920 he's having all these injuries. But I'm just I'm worried 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.760 for the future in that. Let's hope that the Cowboys 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.680 are able to make some moves this offseason to get 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.920 some people and some bodies around him that will help 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.200 him in the pocket and help him get the ball out, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:35.040 quicker receivers getting open, receivers running their routes quickly, getting open, 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.559 creating some space. But to me, part of me is 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.640 thankful that he doesn't have to play with this current 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.680 offensive this year for the remainder of the year. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.440 Well, obviously, I think, like Josh put it well where 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.160 it was expected. I think that you know, could happen 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.000 last week. But I think that it tells you how 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.760 much of a competitor Dak Prescott is to be able 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.440 to put this off and say I'm going to do 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.320 everything I can and just pray that somebody tells me 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.240 I can play and for some former fashion and some 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.400 former fashion right, and so you know, obviously that's not 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.319 the case. Obviously we're hoping for a speedy recovery and 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.840 pray that surgery goes well. Yeah, but of course, you know, 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.040 I think you're completely right in terms of this offseason 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.120 needs to be focused on making sure that he set 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:22.720 up for success. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:23.240 Football is a. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.600 Line of scrimmage game, and I think a lot a 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.599 lot of the reason why the Cowboys have struggled the 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.040 season has been because they've been weak at points at 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.880 the line of scrimmage, specifically on the offensive line. I 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.760 think you can look at this defensive line and they're 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.800 starting to piece it together. I think these last couple 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.400 of weeks, especially stopping the run, but the offensive line 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.440 you've got pieces there. You've got Tyler Smith, you know 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.599 you've got I still think Tyler Gouyden can be a 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.480 good piece for you. I think it's more a matter 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.439 of him getting the reps, because you got to remember 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.600 with Guitton, he missed a lot of training camp, he 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.800 missed Outa's so those are valuable reps. And mich McCarthy's 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.720 talked about how those are valuable reps for a young 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:57.560 guy to get. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:02.120 So awesome Richards exactly. Austin Richards played really well. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.320 Cooper BB has had a great season as a rookie 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.600 center in a position he's never played before. I don't 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.839 think that's talked about enough. Cooper BB is never played 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.840 actually trying to bring it up, and he's playing not 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.480 He's playing it the way that he is. So you 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.280 know the pieces are there, But I think you're still 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.120 one or two away. And when you insert Dak Prescott 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.480 back into that formula, I think things will bode well. 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.880 My only concern here is I don't believe that, and 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.400 I'm glad you kind of pulled back on that. I 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.920 don't believe this is the the sundown years of Tony 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.240 rollmoy As far as injuries are concerned, but I can 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:37.880 just we can go ahead and have a wake in 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.520 a funeral for all of my hopes of Dak Prescott 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.720 ever running the ball again. Probably he's never running the 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.760 ball again. He will now be Payton manning back. He's 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.440 never running the ball again. So that's more so than 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.960 Josh's point. You got to make sure this offseason, whether 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.240 it be free agency and hopefully the draft, a combination 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.000 of the two, you got to put the weapons around 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:00.680 him that can get the separate and you got to 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.520 make sure because as far as the offensive line, because 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.319 you don't know that Zach Martin's coming back, and even 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.080 if he comes back, what's the decision there because we 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.360 talk about Zach's play having declined a bit. So yeah, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.360 you got to make sure the protection is rock solid upfront, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.240 and you got to get the skill position guys outside 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.080 of Ceedee Lamb who can get separation and run crisp routes. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.240 Because that Zach I'm sorry, that's not He's not taking 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:24.520 off and running anymore. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.440 We're done. I'm burying. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.120 And like you said, though, building through the draft obviously 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.120 that's something that we've always done. But you'd hope even 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:34.880 with the whether it be a new regime or the 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.080 same regime that we have currently. As far as coaching 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.920 staff goes, you'd hope that they put a bigger emphasis 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.319 on free agency. Yeah, because there are still really good 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.600 guys out there in free agency that you could pick 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.000 up to help enforce this. This offensive line tight ends 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:49.479 wide receivers. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:50.080 Yep. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.640 Uh, there's a lot of wide receivers. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.959 The thing with at least this upcoming offseason is they're 0:11:59.040 --> 0:11:59.679 they're going to. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.360 Have a little bit more wiggle room than they did 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:03.240 this past offseason. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.200 That's because they got the Dak deal and the CD 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.000 Lamb deal done, but not as much as you would 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.800 think to go and just absolutely spin like crazy because 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.319 you've got Micah on the horizon. That's going to be 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:14.960 another contract that's going to eat up a ton of 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.400 your cap. D ron Bland possibly on the timeline if 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.440 they want to extend him and continue having his services 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.360 moving forward, which I think all of us here would 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:23.839 like to do. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.640 Yep, there's a lot more on the horizon. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.520 Tyler Smith too, I mean goodness, he's playing at an 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.600 all pro level right now. He's the only one on 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.640 the offensive line that you can say is doing his 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.640 job and excelling at it at this point, so there 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.040 might be a tiny sliver of wiggle room, but for 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.000 the most part, it's still going to be a slow 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.880 spending offseason, which when you were talking about that, and 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.760 you're building separation from your wide receivers and you're revamping 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.640 your offensive line, I mean, it's no surprise that on 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:54.000 this show. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.280 I love the NFL Draft. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.000 That's part of my favorite part of this job that 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.120 I get to do on a yearly basis. Start to 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.240 getting a little butterfly feeling because it's like, Okay, it's 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.240 going to be that conversation again in the first round. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.320 Is it going to be a wide receiver or an 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:09.160 offensive lineman? 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:10.120 Again? 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.800 That's what it'll be in April. That's exactly what the 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.400 conversation when we start the Draft show. Whether that's four 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.800 weeks from now or ten weeks from now, it's starting 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.360 to look a little bit more like four weeks. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.760 From now as we go along. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.840 But if whenever we start the Draft show, that will 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.080 be the first segment of as we stand today, where 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.240 are you going in the first round? And right now 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.280 I'm kind of in between wide receiver and offensive line 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.160 because those are the things you're going to You're going 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.520 to have to build around your sixty million dollars on average. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.200 Per year quarterback, and there's going to be basically going 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:41.839 to be running a hole. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.120 There's going to be a curve ball, not to get 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:44.800 into the draft show, but you're going to get the 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.240 curve ball of lack an Ashton Gentt. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.160 Right. Sure, so, I mean that's what But that's going 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.079 to make your conversation. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.480 I think the astrion gent conversation would have been a 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.400 little bit higher up in the in the calling card 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.000 if you were picking in the early twenties or late but. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.760 Not as you might sniff top five, you might be 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:03.720 top ten. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.959 Yeah, moving up, knocking on the door of top ten, 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:06.680 right exactly. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.080 You're at eleven right now, right, So yeah, I don't 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.160 know if I'm okay with gent that high. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.600 I love Ashley put A. Don't get me wrong, because 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:15.120 we end. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.040 Up having a draft conversation right now, just a. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.840 We can have a draft conversation. 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What's going on? 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.119 Hey, gentlemen, how we doing this morning? 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:29.720 Doing that? 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:30.880 Three? What's on your mind? 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:36.399 Good? Good? Oh my gosh, excuse me so much? And 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.280 talks about with this team, Like, what a disciplining season. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.560 You know, we had three great runs the last three 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.520 years and a lot of hope going into this season, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.440 some question marks, and it just all fell apart. I mean, 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:56.360 the wheels have just fallen off the car. I have 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.359 a huge question about the head coaching. I don't know 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.800 why it feels like, well, I do know why everybody's 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:09.719 on the Mike McCarthy's gone. He's on the one year contract. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:15.080 He's gone, But yet Jerry refuses to fire him right now. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.840 If that's what he's going to do, what are the 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:23.560 chances that Jerry excuses all the injuries and brings him 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.760 back on a two year contract or something. Is that possible? 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.680 Do you think that's something he would do? Being that 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.240 Jerry does what Jerry wants to do. And then on 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:39.000 that hand, my other question is I love Jerry. Jerry's 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.760 a great owner. He's been a great owner and ambassador 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.560 for the NFL for many many years. That being said, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.399 Jerry is getting old. A lot of the stuff Jerry 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:55.679 says is no longer Jerry isms, the stuff that I 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.320 think we should be a little concerned about. I still 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.480 think he's an into elegent man, but he's not as 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.440 sharp as he was when he was a lot younger. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.000 One of the things being this morning flipping with the 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.720 Cooper injury. I don't think that was supposed to come 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.400 out the DAK when he admitted the Dak's having surgery tomorrow. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.160 It try to sound like he came out and maybe 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.840 it shouldn't have. But then he's like, well I already 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.359 said it, so let's just go with it. So just 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.720 wondering what you guys think. I mean, I know you 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.520 work for him. I know you're not kind of doggle man. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.800 I don't expect that, but you know, what do you 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.120 think about that part of him? That being said, I 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.480 love the show and listen to you guys every day. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:43.280 Patrick Uh Trayvon Steal to Pappy Steal got him one 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:47.280 more time. So you guys have a great day. I'll 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.720 be listening, have a great week. Love you guys. 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.800 Thanks, appreciate a Chandler, great job. Two great questions. I'm 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.719 going to address the second one first and I'll leave 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.439 it up to you guys here in a moment, and 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.600 this is a fan asking the questions. 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.040 I want to let it be known because, like. 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:02.600 He said, we work for the team, and there's a 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.119 little bit there, but I'm going to tell the truth 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:05.879 in this factor. 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.440 I'm not going to sugarcoat this one bit tok effects. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:13.160 Jerry Jones is still extremely calculated. Everything that he let 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:14.760 slip in terms of one, O, five to three the 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.400 fan this morning was. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:17.440 A calculated move. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.040 He's doing that because he's Jerry Jones, and because he 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.080 does that, everything he says in the media is still 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:28.119 exceptionally calculated. He's not letting anything quote unquote slip that 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.840 he doesn't want to let slip. That news was going 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.960 to come out at some point anyways, and so Jerry 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.600 Jones saying it from the lips of Jerry Jones just 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:40.320 allows for more eyeballs, more ears, more attention to the 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.440 flagship station, all sorts of things like that along the way. 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.879 That's a smart move from Jerry Jones and all that 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:47.600 he knows how to stir the pot. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.119 He knows how to make a national storyline. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.080 We're watching our guy Isaiah standback on Good Morning Football 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:53.960 on the screen next to us right now, and the 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:58.840 bottom line is breaking news. Jerry Jones says blank. That's 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.440 why he says it on the radio. There's nothing slipping 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.680 three D chess. Yeah, and the Cooper Rush thinks same thing. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.480 It's the same exact deal. That's that's calculated. And there 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:08.880 might be. 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.639 Things in the event Cooper Rush struggles. Absolutely, it was 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.040 a soft pointing. 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.000 Of Hey, I kind of told you that he was 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.120 dealing with something right. 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.520 Absolutely, and there are things that I'm sure the coaching 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.800 staff and the team across the hallway would love to 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:22.560 keep silent. 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:24.720 But at the end of the day, this is. 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.760 The Jones Families organization, That's what it is. And they're 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:29.919 going to say what they want to say, period. And 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.520 so if they wanted to be out there in the 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.200 open and they want to use that as a nugget 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.360 in their weekly phone call, they're going to do it 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.119 like that's just plain and simple part of it. 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.280 Let me address a champ's first question really quickly, Coach McCarthy. 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.520 Coach McCarthy, if if you bring him back, my question 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.000 is who is your defensive coordinator? 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:45.640 What? 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:46.600 Al Harris? 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:53.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I say that quickly, and 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.439 I say that unequivocally because he would He was a 0:21:56.520 --> 0:22:00.399 top my list for defensive coordinators before they brought in 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.640 Mike Zimmer and gave him the position. Al Harris has 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.959 outright earned a shot at coordinating his own defense. 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:09.199 What does his defense look like? 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.600 Does it go back to takeaway takeaways? 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.919 And it is dan quinnesque with Remember he was hired. 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:22.399 By the McCarthy initially and was under Mike Nolan initially. 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.000 He wasn't hired by dan Quinn. So do you think 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:26.399 he would take that dan Quinn? 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:27.560 I think it's more dan Quinn. 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.280 I've had several conversations with Al Harris and he during 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.760 the time with dan Quinn, he couldn't offer up enough 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.439 praise for what dan Quinn was teaching him as far 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.520 as the knowledge that was being imparted growing him as 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.360 as a coach and the scheme that dan Quinn operated 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:47.840 under that allowed for an exceptional pass rush as well 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.439 as an exceptional defensive takeaway scheme right, And we're seeing 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.280 right now under Mike Zimmer even though Al Harris got 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.880 the promotion assistant head coaching, he's still defensive backs coach. 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:58.440 But with this new. 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:02.920 Scheme, I see very little Al Harris' fingerprints, very few 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.480 of Al Harris's fingerprints on this, and I think that's 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.280 one of the things that the Cowboys need to get 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:10.359 back to. So yeah, knowing how the front office works, 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.400 they love their proven head coaches, coordinators, God, they really 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:18.200 love them. They seem kind of allergic to newer, younger 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.840 faces that weren't groomed by the organization, like a Kellen 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.800 Moore or Jason Garrett, which is why I find it difficult. 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.679 Although I you know, looking forward, Ben Johnson would be 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.840 a good candidate if he becomes available. We can't talk 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.320 about him as if he's available because that's tamporing. But 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.920 you have those younger names, but that isn't the same 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:38.600 as like a Kellen Moore when he was within the 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.360 here Jason Garrett. Al Harris is a young minded guy 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.919 who's here and has been here several years. So I 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.439 feel like that part of how the Cowboys pattern works 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.679 coaching wise, hiring wise, and the fact that al Harris 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:52.800 has shown that he can develop guys and get them 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.040 taking away the ball Al Harris for. 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.959 Me another question though, if McCarthy is gone next season, 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.520 does Al Harrison have that chance to become defensive coordinat. 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.320 I don't see why he would not. I don't see 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:03.919 why he would not. 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:05.760 Keep in mind, depends on who they would hire. 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.000 Us agree because that head coach would have said. 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:10.080 Most of the time they would. 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.960 I guess my point there to answer that question would 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.920 be if Al Harris and now granted the Cowboys blocked 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:22.280 dan Quinn from getting Al Harris from the Cowboys, but 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:26.720 that was because if dan Quinn right, he had Joe Witt. 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.680 So if dan Quinn had offered Al Harris a promotion, 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.439 then Cowboys could have done about it. 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:32.639 Right. 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.359 So I say that to say, if Mike McCarthy is 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:39.560 out of the building, there's a love that Al Harris 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:41.560 has from McCarthy having played for him as well in 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.760 Green Bay. That obviously, realistically speaking, you have to entertain 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.919 the fact that maybe Al Harris is gonna go with 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.320 Mike McCarthy. But I've spoken with Al Harris and he's 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.320 ready to take a leap. Okay, he's ready to get 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.440 his own something, if that's his own defense, if that's 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:56.359 his own team. 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.359 He's ready to get something of his own and breakout. 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.000 And I could see it be in a situation where 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.159 he thanks McCarthy for bringing him into the organization and 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.280 everything he's done for him, both as a player and 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.440 developing as a coach, and then saying, Hey, if Jerry 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.680 Jones and this new incoming hit coach is going to 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.040 give me a chance to prove myself as a DC, 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.240 I'm not going to say no to that. So that 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.760 I could continue by tutelage under McCarthy. 0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:21.600 Who would you pick? 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.000 You asked the question, But I'm kind of curious on 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.280 who would be here, someone outside hire or inside hier 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:28.280 which I would go. 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:28.840 With Al Harris. 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:30.920 I want to see what that looks like, because I 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.879 think you would bring back the element of like Patrick 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.960 just said, taking the ball away, and you would bring 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.520 back dan Quinn's not available, but he is, you know, 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.400 but the personnel that he was using. And I think 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.639 Al Harris has a better understanding of that, sure comparatively 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:48.680 obviously they work together for such a long time. I 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.560 think he has a better understanding, and of course he 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:51.800 knows the players that he has. 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:52.359 Yeah. 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.720 The only other thing that I could add an element 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.840 to in that process is if they were to hire Al. 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.159 Harris as a defensive coordinator. 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.920 A lot of times that would admit fault on who 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.520 they hired initially instead of al Harris In this last 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.719 coaching cycle of hiring Mike Zimmer as the defensive coordinator 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.160 instead of hiring who they interviewed for the job. Al 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.320 Harris is the defensive coordinator. They blocked him, they kept 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.200 him here, but they didn't ultimately end up hiring him 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.720 moving forward. And this would admit, Hey, we were wrong 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.280 the first time around. Are you wrong now over the 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.479 over the options? Who knows, because we haven't seen Al 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:28.800 Harris as a defensive coordinator. 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.520 But I think the the evidence is that you bring 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.080 Mike Zimmer in for one year. 0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:35.760 Sure, they signed him for a one year deal. 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.680 Yes, I think that into a participate nice five million dollar. 0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:42.080 Favor, Yes, exactly right, Yeah, a big favor from his partner. 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.199 But I'm saying, like you probably did that for Al 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.640 Harris as well. Yeah, give him a chance to learn 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:51.280 besides somebody that isn't Dan Quinn and really develop who 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.399 he is his defensive coordinator and give him that that 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.159 promotion as well, you know what I mean? So, like, 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.399 I think there is a part of the grooming process 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.800 right to get him where he wants to go. 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.359 Would you think, Tommy, I'm completely on board with the 0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.760 I'm on board with the Al Harris for defensive coordinator train. Yeah, 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.200 I think that you made a good point where it's 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.680 his third defensive coordinator. So that's given him some time 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.879 to marinate in a lot of different systems and a 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.800 lot of different philosophies and a lot of different coaching styles. 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.560 And I think that when you've got players coming in 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.440 from different philosophies, different coaching styles, more often than not, 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:27.080 that's going to. 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:28.560 Gel really well for you. 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.399 I think you still you take a look at all 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.240 your options. You see what's on the table, like you 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.760 do in any coaching search at any level, whether it 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.440 be coordinator, head coach. But if you were to tell 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.040 me tomorrow, hey, Al Harris is going to be the 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.000 Cowboys defensive coordinator in twenty twenty. 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.680 Five, I'd be completely on board with that. 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.000 And I'll say this too, going back to Champs thing 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.680 about Mike McCarthy and the injuries and whether or not 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.560 that would be you know, something that you know gives 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:55.439 him some extra time whatever it may be. Look, Mike 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.959 McCarthy is a great head coach. I think I think 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.920 he's a great football coach. You know, I think that 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.560 his track record shows that he went twelve and five 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.639 for three years here in a row. You don't do 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.040 that by accident. Injuries are a part of the game 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.159 at any level of football. You are never going to 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.000 be one hundred percent healthy across the board throughout the 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:15.720 entire season. 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.359 You want a Super Bowl riddled with any of you. 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.359 Want a Super Bowl riddled with injuries and a very 0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:24.720 good quarterback. But nonetheless, I think that what it comes 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.080 down to in the evaluation process is how do you 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.359 build off of those injuries because you know they're going 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.359 to happen. Obviously for the Cowboys that has been at 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:37.040 an unprecedented scale and unfortunate timing left and right. But 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.680 how do you keep things afloat? And so I think 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.560 that's going to be the biggest thing that the organization 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.040 looks to when it comes to that decision that's coming 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:46.880 up here at the end of the season, is did 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.200 he do a good enough job keeping it afloat? Do 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.960 we think that he can keep this afloat going forward? 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:53.720 And that's the question that's ultimately going to have to 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:54.160 be answered. 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.040 And right now as we sit, as Week ten is 0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.080 now in the rearview mirror, I don't know if you're 0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.760 in that boat. I don't know if the Cowboys boat 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.560 is a float across the way or not. We're not 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:05.840 in that locker room, but we can only tell from 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:07.760 the outside looking in it hasn't been good the last 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:08.400 couple of weeks. 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.400 And that's where these conversations are shit. 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.640 And it also depends on their definition of what is 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:13.080 a flow. 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:14.920 What is a float? Is it strening? 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.360 Is it locker room cohesion? 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.040 Is it personnel? 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.440 Is it scheme? Could be what is staying afloat? 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.880 So yeah, all of that, you know, this has something 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:26.400 to think about as we go into these last couple 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:26.680 of games. 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.200 We do need to take our second break and get 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.120 to some more phone calls. Great call Champ, just to 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.280 provoke some conversation. The thought process here for me, when 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.040 when it comes to Mike McCarthy before we go to 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:39.200 this break, is the fact that, Mike, if you were 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.800 to make a switch now, how does it help you 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:48.440 further your franchise. I don't have a legitimate reason to 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.720 do it right now other than the fact if you 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.920 have lost the locker room, and I don't think that's 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:53.360 the case. 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:55.680 I don't think he's lost me today. 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.560 That's what that was the first part of champs question 0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.720 was why hasn't he made a move yet? If this 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.880 is going to happen in anyways. Yeah, the reason you 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.000 haven't made a move yet is because he hasn't lost 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.720 the locker room, at least from our outside vantage point 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:10.080 looking in. 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:12.880 And if you were to do it, it's. 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.560 The same question Josh has asked, who's your interim head coach, 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.680 who's your defensive coordinator, who's your offensive coord I mean, 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.480 the whole staff would have to be redone in the 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.520 middle of a season. I know you're not mathematically eliminated 0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.520 from the playoffs, but you're pretty much eliminated from the 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.440 playoffs at this point in time. It still doesn't make sense, 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.080 It really doesn't. And so that's why I don't think 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.200 a move has been made yet. And there's gonna be 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.200 a long way, and they're going to give an opportunity. 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.920 Maybe that's the respect that the front office has for 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.000 what McCarthy has done the last three years. They're going 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.960 to give him a chance to write the ship, to 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.480 keep this thing afloat, and then they'll reevaluate as the 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.160 years go on, or the year goes on and it 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:49.960 comes to a close at the end of the year, 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.360 and as his contract comes to a close, so there 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.360 will be a reevaluation process. If you're expecting a mid 0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.640 season move, I would just stop expecting it. It's not 0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:58.400 gonna happen. 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.520 Unless things absolutelyely hit the absolute. 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.480 Rock bottom and maybe below. 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I'm Kyle Yeomans 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.120 and we're all smiles because we're talking to the Cowboys fans. 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.680 Cowboys Nation, Let's go to Nebby and Silver Springs, Maryland. 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:43.760 What's going on Nebby? 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:49.239 Hey, guys, thank you so much for taking my call. Uh. 0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:51.520 First of all, I want to get this out of 0:33:51.600 --> 0:34:00.560 the way. Let's seek you guys were talking about you 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.000 who you guys hate more the Philadelphia Eagles or the 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:13.160 Washington Commanders. Well, for me, growing up, uh me personally, 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:28.799 I have always uh believed uh uh that the Commanders 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:40.040 were or excuse me, are the more hated rivals. So 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:46.200 me personally, even though I obviously live in the DC area, 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:54.719 me personally, I hate the Commanders more than I hate 0:34:54.719 --> 0:35:00.920 the Eagles. Although that said, I do give the Commander's 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:07.879 credit for being a great football team this year. Now, 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:13.600 having said all that, I believe we are in must 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:20.120 win mode for the next several weeks, and if we 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:27.799 don't win our next game this coming Monday night at 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:33.680 home against the Houston Texans, I've ben I believe that 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:39.919 we should be in full evaluation mode and put Trey 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:49.200 Lanton evaluate him, gave Deuce vun a chance to play 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.399 and see what happens the rest of the season. All 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.640 that said, before I go, I just want to say 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:02.880 that the season isn't over yet. But we do have 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:09.759 to win our next several games in order to make 0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:18.279 the playoffs. And I hope you don't mind me being 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:29.279 optimistic and not giving up on the season just yet. 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.960 Take care of Thank you so much for being patient 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.479 with me, and have a great week. Bye. 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:36.520 Thanks Navy. 0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.360 Let's start calling Neb's calls. Nebby nos ball. 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:42.960 To start calling his own segment. 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.239 I agree, a complete evaluation mode. 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.040 You've got eight games left a lot of times, in 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.400 order to make the postseason in this seventeen game schedule, 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:52.840 you need to win ten games. 0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.560 At least maybe eleven, depending on what division you're in. 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.960 And of course, if you've looked lately, the Cowboys are 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.120 in a pretty good division. You need to either all 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:02.120 eight of your. 0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.759 Next games or at the minimum seven of your next 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.279 eight games in order to make the playoffs. And it 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.239 kind of goes back to what we talked about yesterday, like, 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.400 if anybody is looking at this team right now and 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.640 saying they're gonna win seven of eight, I would call 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:15.200 you crazy. 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.040 I would absolutely call you crazy. 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:21.279 I love the optimism, but I also think Nebby brings 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.520 optimism in a realistic standpoint of let's say, hey, it doesn't. 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.080 Go our way and you do lose on Monday night. 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.680 Like you said, there, it's a valuation time which could 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.239 be beneficial to this football team as well. 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.120 I would argue that it's been a valuation time for 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.520 this team since like Week four, and they just haven't 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.120 realized it yet because they've been playing so much young talent. 0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:41.560 And I don't say that it's a bad thing. 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.839 I mean it's evaluation from a standpoint of you get 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.280 to see what you have while also getting these guys valuable. 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.239 Will always be valuating, exactly right, but it's been more 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.400 so just because the injuries that have come up and 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.200 you've got you've got two rookies on the offensive line. 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.840 You've got DeMar Fion over shown starting a linebacker for 0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:01.440 you what essentially is his rookie year. Caitlin Carson has 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.960 had to step up at corner. So you know, sometimes 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.120 that evaluation period comes with a negative connotation because some 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.120 would take it as Okay, the season's over, like there's 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.200 nothing to play for it anymore. Well, there's always something 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.719 to play for. There's always something to play for because 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.520 you get those guys reps and you get to see 0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.719 what they've got. So I would agree with that, with 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:21.160 that notion, with that approach. 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:26.279 Well, we everyone knows I kicked into evaluation mode in 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:30.600 Week four, not that far back, but I did say 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.120 I wanted to see Trey Lance packages and going into 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.239 that game against the Eagles, I wanted to see some 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.040 Deuce Vaughn and some of these other younger guys that 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.160 you haven't seen so that you could start the process. 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.600 And then I said, if you lose against the Eagles, 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.600 to me, it is a lost season. But again to 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.040 Tommy's point, it doesn't mean that what happens from henceforth 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.480 doesn't matter. It does matter because you now need to 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.600 see if ducevaugh needs to be on this roster next year. 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.640 You need to see more from Hunter Lipkey so that 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:57.120 you can build him up and get him ready for 0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:57.640 next year. 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.440 And you know, now we'll expected to come back. 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:02.960 Let's see if will Grid is going to be a 0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:04.839 viable option. So for me, you know what you having, 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.799 Cooper Rush, Now, I'm in start Trey Lance mode right now? 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.799 Okay, and then let's let's spring document. 0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.759 It right and then let's sprinkle some will Gear in there. 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.719 Let's just just have some phone with it while we're 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.000 doing the evaluation. So that's the only difference between Neby 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.000 and I, and that I agree with what he's saying. 0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.520 It's just that my full evaluation mode has already started, 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.320 like it started more or less after. 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.080 You lost to the Eagles. Right, So he's willing to 0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:29.560 wait a week. 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.520 But to your point, Cayl, not only would you have 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.360 to damn near went out in conjunction with that, you 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:38.160 would need both the Washington Commanders and the Philadelphia Eagles 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.120 to fall flat on their faces. The Eagles have shown 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.120 that they can, but this Commander's team is just so 0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:43.960 red hot. 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:45.040 And then you look at who they're playing. 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.839 Yeah, they got the Eagles twice, so two head butts there, 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:49.239 but you know. 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:50.360 They're playing the Cowboys. 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.200 They're playing the tight ends to playing the Saints, who 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.800 are surging a little bit, but maybe they'll mail it 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:55.319 in by then. 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.640 I want to get to Cynthia because Cynthia is a 0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.399 real one. Come on, Cynthia is one of our. 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:03.000 Favorite colle on Talking Cowboys because he's offered us to 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.000 prove tex mex whenever we got the chance to go 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:07.200 down to Laredo, Texas. 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.920 Cynthia, you're back on talking Cowboys. What's going on? 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.719 Good morning, guys. It's about time Craig got me on 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:20.560 this year. Yeah, a female fan. Okay, we love it, 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:21.200 We love it. 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:22.160 Cynthia. How are you. 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:27.120 I'm doing well. I'm sad. Okay, I'm not mad at 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.239 the Cowboys. I'm not mad at anybody. You know who 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.080 I am so sad for. 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:33.520 What's that? 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:38.239 It's Sekiel Elliott. I just it hurts me that he's 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.600 done so much for so many years and now the 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:46.400 situation he's in. I just wanted to say that I 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.879 appreciate all those good times we had with him. Now 0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:54.800 I want to do out guy's opinion about is this 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.960 is last year? Can you retire as a Cowboy? I 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.680 would love to see that. That's all I have to say. Kyle. 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.480 I just want to thank you because I met you 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.960 last year. Yeah, when we played the Giants and I 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:11.000 met Nate and Michelle. His life and that will always 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.160 be in my heart forever and ever and forever never 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:15.319 a Cowboy. 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.560 Fan, Yes, ma'am, and I'll listen to y'all. 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.319 Appreciate you, miss Cynthia. Thank you, thanks for the call 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.279 as always. Yeah, she was great. We were out of 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.440 pregame life like we were last week and she came 0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:26.440 by and said. 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.480 Hie, I told you we met Tim by the way 0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.359 this past week, huge talking Cowboys fans. Tim came by 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.040 the set, was able to say Hi, I took a 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:36.800 picture of Isaiah and I and we kind of like 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.160 gave him some freebies, gave him like a Waterburger hat 0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:40.160 and the Jack. 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:44.040 Black set, some little take me homes. But no, he 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:44.640 was awesome. 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.120 Loved talking to Tim, Loved talking to Cynthia last year. 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:52.080 Ezekiel Elliott, the conversation was made this morning with Jerry 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.200 Jones and he said, we are not living in the past. 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.000 With Ezekiel Elliott, he said, let it be clear, we 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.120 are not living in the past. He's like, were currently 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.480 in the future, I think present future. 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.360 Whatever it does that be? What does that mean for 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:09.359 his future here? 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.080 Because we talked about it yesterday, Josh, you talked about 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.879 ric O Daddle fumbles at the goal line. He's made 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.279 inactive next week Hunter Lipkey line. 0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.960 But definitely less it was Oh they were actually he 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:29.319 was actually inactive. Remember, Yeah, he was sick. 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:32.000 Was over him. 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.440 Yeah, there was there was weather there there was a 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:38.359 storm a coming. But then you had Hunter Lipkey last 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.120 year who didn't get to touch the rest of the year. 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.640 Ezekiel Elliott, who has had his struggles this year, gets 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.919 the opening carry of the next drive. There's a conspiracy 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.080 theory out there. I'm not saying it's what I believe, 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.359 but they're saying that, hey, we're gonna give you one 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.759 last carry, so your last carry is. 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.440 Not a fumble with this team and in this uniform. 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.040 I don't know if I believe that's the case. 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:02.560 That's not his last carry. 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.319 I agree, but is this his last year? 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:07.280 That was not his last carrie. 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.360 I do not believe Ezekiel Elliott will retire from the 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:15.040 NFL in twenty twenty five. So to Cynthia's question, you know, 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.560 would he retire as a cowboy this year after the 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:21.000 season He's I don't get the indication that he's the 0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.239 people to retire. He still thinks he can play ball 0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.200 and there's going to be a team that gives him 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.239 a shot to do so. 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:27.880 I don't know that that will be. 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.799 Here in Dallas though, Yeah, that's kind of where I'm Yeah, 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:32.160 I don't know that that will be here in Dallas. 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.520 I think again, I said, I said it two weeks ago. 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.680 Ric o'dowdo has earned the right to remain in Dallas 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:39.880 in twenty twenty five. But you still don't know what 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:41.719 you have in Duce. You kind of know what you 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.800 have in Hunter, but we want to see more evaluation 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:45.840 on those latter two guys. I just talked about you 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:48.400 got to rebuild your running backs room, and I'm with 0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.319 rebuilding it with Rico o'dowdo in the mix. But as 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.759 far as Ezekiel Elliott, it's one of those things where 0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:55.959 he how's the saying go you can't go home again? 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.080 I think that's that's where they are with Ezekiel Ellitt. 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.160 I mean, I don't think this is Zeke's last year 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.040 playing football. I think this probably is his last year 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:08.120 in Dallas, and hopefully eventually he retires. 0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:08.280 With the Cowboys. 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:09.359 I would love to see that happen. 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.640 But if you just look at the statistics, I mean 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.480 this year compared to last year, where I think the 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.279 Patriots surprisingly had a more they obviously used him in 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.120 better ways for his playing style currently and we are 0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.480 just not that team right now. I mean, if you 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.040 even look at his rushing yards, it's over six hundred. 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:26.880 Last season, He's. 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.880 Only at one seventy at the moment, and we're a 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:31.840 good portion through the season. I don't think he's going 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.040 to get anywhere near six hundred seven hundred yards rushing, 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.680 and he had almost one thousand dollar purpose yards last 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.560 year as well. He's not reaching that because we don't 0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:43.560 throw the ball to him either. I just don't think 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.960 that our play style is playing to his strengths in 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.000 any form or fashion. I think it's a shame because 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:50.960 I think that is a tool that. 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.720 You could use. He's a great athlete. 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.239 I just it's disappointing that the play calls are not 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.800 going his way and the offense just doesn't seem to 0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.439 what he does with Ezekiel Elliott does. Now, what we've 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.160 talked about even in the offseason, it's like, you can't 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.839 expect twenty fourteen Z or twenty sixteen Zeke to come 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.160 in and play like that anymore. You have to expect 0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:14.560 twenty twenty three Zeke, you know, in twenty twenty four 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.759 Z twenty four and use him to his strengths. Yeah, 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.000 so it doesn't seem to be that way. And I 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.360 but I don't think he this is his last. 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:25.919 Football Yeah, I agree that I think there's still gas 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:27.839 lucked in the tank. I just don't think the car 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.960 is being driven right now. And uh, you know it's 0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:33.000 a bar I think. 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:34.880 That is. 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.600 I think I think I agree most with Josh's point 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.320 about you know, this is unfortunately not twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:42.160 Ezekiel Elliott. 0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.360 This is twenty twenty four Yeah, ezekiel A. 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.120 The unfortunate part about Time is that sometimes he catch 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.600 us up to you and father Time is undefeated. I 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.759 think you've told me that, how about a half a 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:53.480 million times in the monk that I've been here. But 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.759 it's very true, and you're seeing it across the board, 0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.279 even Zach Martin, if you feel like Time is kind 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:00.279 of catching up to him too. 0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:02.600 But no, I don't think this is Ezekielli. 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.520 It's last year in the NFL, and I certainly hope not, 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:06.600 because I still think that there's some juice left there. 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:06.839 Yeah. 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.399 The bottom line is it's every once in a while 0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:11.560 you get back with the Knicks. You give it a shot, 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.160 and if it doesn't work, don't wait until it gets 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:16.080 to toxic. 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:17.239 Just let it go. 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:19.600 Yeah, I think this is one of those situations they 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:23.319 got back got back with their X, and based upon 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.480 the history, they were like, there were some good things there, 0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:26.040 We had a lot. 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.320 Of romance, We had a lot of good things happened. 0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.279 But then this time around, after you got back with 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.759 the X, you're like, yeah, we're two different people now, 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.640 entirely so relationships. 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:42.759 Dude's that is the weirdest metaphor that's ever worked that well, 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:47.160 Like that is the perfect metaphor, but it's also super 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:48.719 uncomfortable at the same time. 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:50.879 It's because we've all been there. 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:52.680 Were you gonna add something there? 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.399 No, I just think that not to tamper or anything, 0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.200 but it wouldn't it be nice to see Zeke with 0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.200 a quarterback that has some escapability, some dual threat to 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.880 him so that you could actually see him out in space. 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.400 Let me tell you about Trey Lance Bingle. 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:13.719 Allright, he might be better. 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:20.279 Maybe we'll be back tomorrow. Cowboys Defensive preview. Going up 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.239 against C. J. Stroud and the Houston Texans offense, it 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.000 does not get any easier for Dallas, and we're gonna 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:28.920 try and see what happens. Defense has given you some 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.200 things to build on, and we're gonna see if the 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.200 Cowboys can take it another step forward. Maybe play a 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.080 complete four quarters of defense, even whether or not the 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.800 offense gives you any help as well. It's gonna be 0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:43.200 a tough task this week against the Texans. For Tommy Yarish, 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.160 for Josh Rodriguez, Patrick No Cy Walker, Chris Beam in 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.040 the back of Kyle Yoman, saying so long from Talking Cowboys, 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.360 We'll see you tomorrow. 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