WEBVTT - Chaos with Tate Madden 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:05.359 Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of casual Chaos. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.240 This week, I have a super exciting guest, Tate Madden. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:09.840 Welcome to Casual Chaos. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:11.480 Thank you, thank you so much for having me. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:13.640 First off, you are gorgeous. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:14.159 Thank you. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.680 Love your style. The hair is killing it, thank you. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:19.400 Did you, like ever have long hair? 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.600 Oh? Yeah, I know. I had hair like down to hear, 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:22.480 like my whole life. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:23.119 Oh my god. 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.720 And then COVID hit and my friend who is a hairstylist, 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.040 her salon shut down, and so she was just trying 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.800 to like put stuff on social media, so she's like, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.519 can I cut in color your hair? And then when 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.720 I was over there, I was like, honestly, just chop 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.320 it off because if I hate it, no one is 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.360 seeing me anyway, so it'll grow out. And if I 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.159 love it, like I like, I'll know. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:42.880 Yeah. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.159 And obviously I loved it because it's been years and 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.840 it's still still a bop. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.120 So funny. I was actually on TikTok the other day 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.839 and Sophia Richie just cut a bob. Yes, and she 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.320 looks awesome too, and as expected, Yeah, I mean she 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.200 could pull quite literally anything off. Okay, I guess let's 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.640 start from the beginning. So did you grow up in Florida. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.920 I did not. I grew up in Ohio. Oh Whatincinnati, Ohio? Oh? 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.320 So then what made you go to Florida. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.640 My older sister lived in Florida. I actually was living 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.400 in Fort Worth, Texas at the time, and I would 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.520 visit my older sister. She has three boys, and I 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.800 just loved it, and so I would go and visit 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.800 my nephews and I was like, ah, like, I'm young, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.880 I'm single, like I don't have anything holding me back, Like, 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.400 let's just try Florida. And then I just never left. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.720 So you're like, parents and family are still in Ohio. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.400 Still in Ohio. Yes, I have one sister, like I said, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.840 lives in Florida. And then I have my younger sister 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.000 that I got to move to Florida. So little by little, 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.720 I'm one of six, so no way, just keep pulling. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.600 All girls are mixed next so girl boy, then me, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.440 and then boy girl girl. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.680 Oh my god, so many of you. I'm one of four, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.640 so but I mean six, I feel like that's crazy. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.559 And even there were three though, I feel like it's 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.640 just like craziness. Yeah, no matter how much fun. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.160 Yeah, are you all so close? Yes? 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.640 I love having a big family. It is the most fun. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.440 Like it's always so crazy and there was just no 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.520 structure growing up, like everything's just everywhere. But like when 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.320 I look back at it, I'm like, I had so 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.160 much fun. It was the best time. Do you like 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:14.200 having a big. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.639 One hundred percent come from a big Italian family and 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.680 my dad's side is huge, so we just grew up 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.799 so many cousins. We all have so many siblings and 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.519 the house is never quiet now, there's never a dull moment. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.200 There's always something going on. But that's the beauty of it. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:32.560 And I feel like a lot of kids, if they're 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.600 like an only child, they always wish they had a sibling. Yes, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.000 so I feel I guess grateful. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.040 I can't imagine not having like a big family. I 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.640 also laugh when people try and they're like, oh, I'm 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.560 so sorry, it's a louder. So I'm like, this is 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.280 how I feel comfortable, Like I like it just being 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.560 absolute madness. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.360 I'm too quiet or something. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.760 Yes, I'm like, what's going on? 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.760 We got in trouble? Yes, So where did you go 0:02:58.800 --> 0:02:59.399 to college? 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:05.240 I didn't go to college. Oh, no way plot twist. No, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.800 I didn't go to college. Honestly, think I'm just too 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.920 add to like sit in a classroom. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:10.840 It's not for everyone. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.920 Yeah, I just wanted to bop around. I went to 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.040 la for a bit, stayed with my brother for a 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.720 couple months, and here in New York. My family at 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.280 one point said that I was a bubble. They're like, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.440 you really just float because I was just kind of 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.800 found my way, which was terrifying at times because I 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.800 did it when I was obviously so young, and when 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.960 you have six siblings, like, I don't want to have 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.240 help from anyone. I'm like, my parents have all my 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.880 younger siblings to worry about. I'm going to take care 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.600 of myself, which sometimes my mom would get mad at 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.000 me and she would yell at me and be like, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.520 what are you doing, like call me? So yeah, that 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.880 was a thing, but we got through it and I'm here, 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.240 and I feel like that is like one of the 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.560 biggest reasons why I've matured and been able to like 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.440 navigate life. Say, I probably trusted myself helped. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.400 You gain so much independence for yourself. Yes, when did 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.720 you start kind of being on your own? 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.160 Right after high school? 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.800 Oh Wowah So at eighteen, Oh yeah, I. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.000 Was just like I'm just gonna go. I'm gonna figure 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.800 it out. I don't care like what I need to do. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.040 It was a lot of like ups and downs, but 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.080 I'm very proud of myself for like where I am now. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.800 It's probably so rewarding for yourself though, like look how 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:20.480 far I've come. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.880 Yeah, I hate being a burden to people, which again 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.840 is something that I should probably work on. How my 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.560 mom used to yell at me and say, you know, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.760 I'm your mom, like if you need help, like call me. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.520 I don't know if it's the competitiveness with myself or 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.840 what it is, but I was just always like, you 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.720 need to do this on your own, Like you need 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.320 to do this like by yourself, figure it out by yourself. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:41.640 What's your sign? 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:42.640 A virgo? 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.080 You're a virgo? Okay, my sister's a virgo and so 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.920 was my No No, and he was the same way. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.360 He was so like particular about everything, perfect everything, yes, 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.160 had to be his way. If he didn't do it, 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.359 then it wasn't good to night. Yes, that is me. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.080 It's not bad to ask for help. But I completely 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:03.000 get what you mean. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.040 Yeah, I mean, I think looking back now, I'm like, oh, 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.640 people want the parents that you can call no matter what, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.320 and like, my parents are those parents. So I think 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.160 that's why they were very frustrated with me when I 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.839 was younger, just because it was like I had the 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.480 parents that people dream of and I didn't always take 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.800 advantage of it. But I also think that they're proud 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.200 of me too, for like figuring it out on my own, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.479 so always a learning curve. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.120 I was even having this conversation with my cousin because 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.600 she's kind of dealing with the same thing, figuring out 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.160 things on her own at such a young age, and 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.640 I was like, you know what, when you are older, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.120 you're going to look back and be so grateful that 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.520 you accomplished all this by yourself and that you didn't 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.279 ask anyone for help, not like you couldn't, but just 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.920 knowing that you accomplished all of this on your own, 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.080 paid for all of this on your own, did this 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.239 all by yourself. That's more rewarding than necessarily asking someone 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.200 for help, which isn't a bad thing. Feel like it's 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.080 a self pride thing in a way. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.159 And I think it gives you comfort cents in your choices, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.800 and also it makes it where you're not having to 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.760 abide by someone else's rules. Like if I'm going to 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.559 make a mistake, I'm going to make a mistake because 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.760 I chose in this moment that this was the choice 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.880 I was going to make, and it's my decision and 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:18.200 I fully take accountability for it, Whereas if I'm getting 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.000 help from someone or they kind of have a little bit, 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.440 if I'm putting money into this, like it might sway 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.039 you're thinking. So I just wanted my choices to be 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.320 my choices so I could if I did make a mistake, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.440 learn from them, because I think if you don't make 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.920 your own choices and make your own mistakes, like there's 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.160 always a little tinge of like regret later down the 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:39.800 road where it's like, oh, like what if I just 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.280 would have trusted to myself and did it myself and 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.960 not let someone like sway where I was headed. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.000 So when it's coming out of your pocket, I feel 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.560 like you're yeah, more pocked in. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.200 You're like, Okay, we're not going to mess this one up. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.000 So how did you get hired to be on Tyler's show? 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.320 So I only am on like little syn bits, Yeah, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.080 like I was brought on because Tyler and Kate were 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.360 my friend and he was so busy. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.039 Prior to the show. Yes, okay, so you knew Tyler 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.000 before the show? 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.360 Yeh? 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.440 Did you know him like before kind of his rise 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:11.880 to fame? 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:12.680 No? 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:13.520 Okay. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.600 So a funny thing is is my little sister, the 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.240 one that I got to move to Florida already, she 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.840 was obsessed with Tyler and I didn't watch the Bachelorette. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.880 Yeah all, And the only thing that I've seen of 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.240 him is my friend who I was living with at 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.960 the time. I came home and she was watching the 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.480 Bachelorette and I was like, Oh, what are you watching. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.360 She's like, oh, I'm just watching the Bachelorette. There's just 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.320 a guy from Jupiter on the show, so it's interesting. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.360 I was like, oh cool. I like saw him for 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.680 like zero point five seconds, never thought anything else of it. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.000 And then my sister was like, Tate, you live where 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.240 Tyler Cameron lives? Like da da da. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:49.600 She was to get on it. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.680 Yeah, She's like no, she wanted to find him, which 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.040 is so funny now because he's like an annoying brother 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.000 to her where she like can't stand him and she's like, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.480 never meet your heroes, but in like a loving wife. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.720 No, No, my boyfriend is the same way with me. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:05.120 It's so funny. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.240 But there's this one tweet that she did where it 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.240 was like a picture of Tyler without a shirt on, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.240 and she was like, I love this man. And so 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.680 he will bring that up to her all the time, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.080 like if he's being annoying, and I'll be like, well, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.400 he's like, you love this man, and she's like, no, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.640 I did not, No, I want to literally, but yeah. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.000 So I became friends with him. One of his best 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.960 friends did like a fake wedding shoot with me. One 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.280 of our mutual friends is a wedding planner and she 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.960 needed like a fake briding groom. So I met him. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.520 He was like, oh my gosh, you got to hang 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.480 out with the squad, like you gotta come on the boat. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.080 And I was like okay, like whatever, and so I 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.720 went on this boat and it was Tyler's boat. Okay, 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.440 if you ask Tyler, he does not remember meeting me. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.120 And we had a very long conversation that night and 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.600 I was like, oh my god, we're like friends. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.000 We were friends. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.680 He thought that I met him like when I started 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.559 helping him for the show. I was like, I've hung 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.440 out with you so many times. Skipped too. We did 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.000 become very obviously close friends during the show. Like no 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.600 romance at all. Yeah, looking back, I'm like, it was 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.600 just so much going on at once, but yeah, I 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.120 had no interest in dating him like whatsoever. And then 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.440 I think we both just have a very similar work 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:21.240 ethic where I was just always the last one hanging 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.520 around if like there was stuff that needed to be done. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.560 So then it kind of just gradually grew into love. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.920 Yeah, so here we are now. I love that. So 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.120 then what your role on the show was. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.800 I did his social media, and they just had. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.200 You go into the show like for random little things. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.280 So they were like, will you help me with my 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.840 social media? Why the show's going on? 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.600 Kind of just like managing his accounts, making sure everything 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:45.200 was in line. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.120 Yes, Like like I was editing videos for him. I 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.800 was making sure he was doing all the TikTok trends 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.400 and you know whatever else for him to post so 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.880 he didn't have to worry about it. And all of 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.120 production would call me GFT the whole like time we filmed, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.480 which was good friend tate because I was just always 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.199 in the scenes but in the background, so they woul 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.080 always be like, Wow, this is Tate, like she's just 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.760 such a good friend because I was just always there. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.840 But I wasn't actually on the show. Funny story though, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.439 the show runner actually the day that I did the photography, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.600 because it was with Jason Tartick, I was on his podcast. Okay, yeah, 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:20.560 he's so sweet. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:22.160 Yeah. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.320 Well he said like on camera, he's like, why aren't 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.000 you dating Tate? And Tyler was like like shut up, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.120 like what are you talking about? No, And I was like, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.640 he doesn't even remember me, and he like kind of 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.400 called it and like ended up when they did the 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.640 home runner writing like Tyler loves Tate like with spray paint, 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.320 and you can see it in the episode like very small, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.760 like very briefly. So it started back then. So then 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.320 after that, because we had good banter, the show runner 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.600 asked Tyler because originally the show was supposed to be 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.880 half a home renovation show half like Tyler's life okay, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.160 and so they had all these dates set up for him. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.240 So the show runner wanted him to take me on 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.600 a date, but he had just hired for the social 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.559 media so he like mixed it. He was like, I'm 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.959 not taking her on a day on the show. He's like, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.280 people are starting to see she works for me. Like 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:18.040 it doesn't look good. Look at us. Now. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.800 When did you realize you were like attracted to Tyler 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.600 then if you at first were like, this is not happening. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.200 He's a good looking guy. I was close enough as 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.640 a friend to him though that I saw him go 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.679 out like it's funny looking back, like I used to 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:34.480 be like a wingwoman. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.360 So you really like started as his right man. Yeah, 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.440 that's how it all happened because you started so close 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.720 but you were also so comfortable with each other that 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.840 you felt like you knew all the ins and outs. Yes, 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.320 that it then formed into something romantic eventually, once you 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.360 guys opened your eyes and you were like, oh, this 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.280 is what's happening. Yeah. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.360 I always tell people that I'm like, this is the 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.640 healthiest relationship I've ever entered into because he's such an 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.000 open book as a friend. I mean sometimes I'm like, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.599 oh my gosh, hide a little bit because I do 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:04.880 not need to know all of this. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.080 I know way too much. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.520 Yes, and he's just such an open book as a 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.440 friend that going into a relationship was like the least 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.800 terrifying because I wasn't gonna be blindsided. That aspect of 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.560 it was like so great. It was very kind of awkward, 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:22.360 like the transition, just because I was like homie and 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.679 so when I would go with like all the guys 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.280 and stuff. I remember the first time he like kissed 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.199 me in front of JP. He was like, yo, I 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.040 don't think i've ever seen you guys kiss. He's like, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.800 I don't know about that, and so it was like 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.480 so weird like figuring out like now it's normal, but 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.880 like at first it was just very bizarre just because 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:39.680 we all hung out. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.240 I'm sure that adjustment was probably a little eard for 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.520 your relationship too, though, because you did go as like 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.480 his right hand man and one of his really good 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.440 friends to then like, okay, yes we could still be 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.560 best friends, but also now I want to be like 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.040 treated as a girlfriend. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.880 Yes, which has been because he used to tell me 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.240 all of his wild stories and like this and that, 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.840 and sometimes he'll start going on rants about like stories 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.319 and I'm like, yeah, can we like not like I'm 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.120 like not interested in those anymore, and he's like, I'm 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.360 really sorry about that. Yeah, but sometimes you just like forget. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.760 And then when we were just friends, I mean I 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.920 would still call him and like tell him things I 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.000 was excited about and stuff. And there had been girls 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:21.640 that he had like went on dates with and stuff 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.600 where they had heard me on the phone with him 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.200 and completely platonic at the time. But I remember one 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.920 time my sister and I lived together and we got 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.120 like the coolest fines from Facebook marketplace, and we like 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.440 went all day long and like collected all this stuff. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.400 And I was so excited. So I was like calling 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:38.920 him and telling him about all my things, and he 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.760 was like, you know, feeding into my excitement. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:42.240 Yeah. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.920 But he said after that when I saw him that 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.520 the girl he was with like yelled at him and 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.280 she's like, you're never gonna be able to date anyone 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.520 if you like have conversations like that with a girl, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.240 like even if you say it's her friend. And at 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.880 the time, I was like, that's so silly, that's not 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.000 a thing. Like she's probably like, oh, I knew it, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.760 I told you. Yeah. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.080 And then also when rolls are reverse, like I imagine 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.720 you've heard Tyler talking to ye right now, you would 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.679 probably be like, yeah. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.760 Honestly, like he has best girlfriends like that he's had 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.079 since like sixth grade. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.400 Yeah, okay, yeah. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.760 I don't know. Maybe I'm too chill about it, but 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.360 like I love how he has relationships with girls, like 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.200 I'm always get close to them. I love meeting people 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.160 he's known since he was younger, like new friends. Maybe 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.480 there was subconsciously, like, even if I didn't recognize it, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.920 something there that seemed flirty. But also we're talking about 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.680 a period of time where Tyler was like undateable, So 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.160 this girl probably was like wanting more from Tyler just 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.880 to begin with, and then she hears him like, so, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.520 you know, laughy and comfortable with another girl. Yeah. I 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.920 don't think he knew exactly what stage of life he 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.240 wanted to be in at one point. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.760 I mean, if you don't feel confident in your relationship 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.600 to begin with, yes, and then you hear another female 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.400 and that your person's like connecting with or showing attention to, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.240 I'm sure it's not going to feel good regardless. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.800 I mean I've dated other people where if I would 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.960 be in the same situations that I am with Tyler, like, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.240 they would have made me very uncomfortable. And I feel 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.320 like people are shocked by that, because. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.920 Is Tyler way different than your past relationship. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:19.000 I have so much different, like in the best, best way, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:25.080 Like he is truly everything that I need in a partner. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.760 Anytime I'm stressed or I freak out or I start 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.040 to panic, like he is the most patient chill or 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.840 in past relationships, oh my gosh, if I am running 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.320 like they made it worse where then it would just 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.960 make my anxiety higher, like I was more stressed, like 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.640 the way that he can just hey, it's gonna be okay. Yeah, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.120 I'm not worried, so you shouldn't be worried. He levels 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.520 you out, yes, even if it's something for him. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:53.680 It's like my boyfriend too. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.720 It's so lovely and I'm like, I have never had 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:58.520 this feeling of. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.360 When you when you're so more with somebody, I feel 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.240 like it's a blessing. But at the same time, the 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.920 person still needs to be a little different, like they 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.520 need to level you out, and especially in situations you know, 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.000 when you are arguing with your partner or when you 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.560 know situations are heightened, if your partner is you know, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:21.160 at your level or higher, Oh my god, horrible, awful, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.480 So you do need that balance otherwise it's bad. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.440 Yeah. And like you said, coming from like a big 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.680 loud family like I did, there was a lot of yelling, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.920 like we all loved each other, but we loved each 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.160 other loud and aggressively. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.760 Yeah, and when you're fighting, you're screaming at each other, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.840 like when you love each other, you're like sorry, yeah, 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.520 you know. It's a very like oh yeah, sorry, we'll 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.200 move on. Yeah, very just different. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.680 Where he it's like he wants to take a walk 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.920 and he wants to like talk about like what's bothering me? 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.000 At first, I was like, what are we doing? Even 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.880 though there's some things of course, like he can annoy 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.800 the crap out of me and drive me crazy because 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.680 as like a little kid in some aspects, like the 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.399 most important things that I need from a partner, Like 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.040 he hits the nail on the head like could not 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.679 be a better boyfriend. And I say that like with 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:12.400 my full chest. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.800 I love that. So, then, how long have you guys 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.240 been dating? Like when you guys were kind of you know, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.639 moving into your transition to now. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.080 So officially it's two years on October twenty sixth, but 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.159 we were like dating for like four months before that. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:30.119 So around two. 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.360 Years, two years dating. Yeah, oh I love that. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.719 I just renovated a whole house so I am in 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:35.560