1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Boomberg 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Daybreak You Up podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen. It's Friday, the eighth of November 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: here in London. I'm Caroline Hepka and. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. Powell signals a readiness 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: to defy Trump in defense of the FED as the 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: Central Bank cuts rates by a quarter point. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: The Bank of England governor says the Chancellor's inflation stoking 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: budget won't lead to a slowdown in rate cuts. 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 2: Plus, supermarkets in the UK are offering wagyu steaks from 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: British farmers for as little as five pounds, but is 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: the meast really comparable to the Japanese delicacy. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: Federal Reserve, Charge your own. Powell has made clear he's 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: ready to defend the US Central Bank from political pressure 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: after the reelection of Donald Trump. Following the Fed's unanimous 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: decision to cut rates by a quarter point, Powell was 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: repeatedly asked in his press conference about his position under 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: the incoming administration. 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: Some of the president's elects advisors have suggested that you 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: should resign. 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: If he asked you to leave, would you go? 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 5: No? 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: Can you follow up on do you think that legally 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: you're not required to leave? 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: No? 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: Do you believe the president has a power to fire 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: or demote you? 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: And it has? 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 6: The FED determined the legality of a president demoting at 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 6: will any of the other governors with leadership positions. 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 5: Not permitted under the law, not what not permitted under 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 5: the law. 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: President elects Trump, Tolblinberg, and June that he might want 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: more of a say in interest rates, though added he'd 36 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: let your own pals serve out his current term, which 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: ends in twenty twenty six. The Fed chief's remarks were notable, 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: as he worked hard to dodge every other politically charged 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: question from journalists. 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: In the near term, the election will have no effects 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: on our policy decisions. As you know, many many things 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 5: affect the economy, and anyone who writes down forecasts in 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 5: their job will tell you that the economy is quite 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: difficult the forecast looking out past the very near term. 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: Here we don't know what the timing and substance of 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: any policy changes will be. We therefore don't know what 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: the effects on the economy would. 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 2: Be Pal's comments came after the Federal Open Market Committee 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: cost benchmark US rates to arrange a four and a 50 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: half to four point seventy five percent. 51 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: President select Trump has named his campaign manager, Susie Wilds 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: as his incoming White House Chief of Staff. Meanwhile, financing 53 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: business executives are in the frame for a raft of 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: other top roles in the new administration. Wall Street is 55 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: closely watching who Trump will pick as his Treasury secretary. 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Hedge fund managers Scott Bessant and John Paulson are both 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: thought to be in contention, alongside the former SEC Chair 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: j Clayton, and also the former US Trade Representative Robert Leittheiser. 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: The leaders of Ukraine and Russia jockeying for position with 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: the US president elect. Donald Trump says he's spoken with 61 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: Ukraine's Vladimir Zelenski since the results, but not yet with 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin. Speaking at a gathering in Satchi, the Russian 63 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,559 Speaker 2: president shared his hopes for working with the new US administration. 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 6: I do not want to comment now on what was 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 6: said consciously during the election campaign. I think it was 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 6: said deliberately in the fight for votes, but it does 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 6: not matter what was said in the desire to restore 68 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 6: relations with Russia to help end the Ukrainian crisis, in 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 6: my opinion, seems to deserve at least attention. I would 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 6: like to take this opportunity to congratulate him on his 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 6: election as President of the United States of America. 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: As Latimir Putin speaking there through a translator on the 73 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: campaign trail, Trump predicted he could end the Russia Ukraine 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: conflicts the day after his election, but has given so 75 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: far a little indication of how he would approach the challenge. 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Soon to be forty seventh president of the United States, 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: as he plans to speak with Vladimir Putin during an 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: interview with NBC News on Thursday. 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: The Bank of England governor has supported Rachel Reeves's budget, 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: saying that it won't slow the pace of rate cuts. 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Despite predicting that the Chancellor's policies will push inflation up 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: by almost half a percentage point to two point eight percent. 83 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: Policy makers at the Bank of England effectively endorsed a 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: further four quarter point cuts by the end of next year. 85 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: Speaking to Bloomberg, though Governor Andrew Bailey said the pace 86 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: of change at the Bank of England would be subject 87 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: to global conditions. 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 7: There are a lot of uncertainties out there, both in 89 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 7: the world and there's domestic uncertaintis as well. So we've 90 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 7: emphasized the word gradual again because we're going to have 91 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 7: to take account of how those uncertainties play through. I'm 92 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 7: not really in a position when there's any of the 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 7: certain position to say, well, gradual means every so often. 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 7: That is not a judgment that we make. 95 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Bailey, speaking to Bloomberg's Farci Laqua after the MUNETU 96 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Policy Committee delivered a quarter point interesstrate cut to four 97 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: point seventy five percent yesterday. Meanwhile, new data released this 98 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: morning by the Recruitment and Employment Confederation and KPMG shows 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: hiring at UK businesses fell at its deepest pace since 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: March in anticipation of tax rises from the budget. The 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: report is closely watched by the Bank of England to 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: gauge cost pressures. 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: HSBC says its first round of job losses is due 104 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: in weeks. The Europe's biggest bank has been planning a 105 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: major restructuring to combine many of its business units. Boss 106 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: of the new Global Wholesale Banking division, Michael Roberts told 107 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Bloomberg speed is key. 108 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 8: I've been in drip type of structurings, very painful for 109 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 8: our employees, very painful for clients. And we're very much 110 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 8: aware that this is distracting, this is disruptive, So we're 111 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 8: going to try to do this as quickly as possible. 112 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 8: I'm talking weeks before we announced the first level, and 113 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 8: that will be followed by several other weeks. I mean, 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 8: we're going to be working. 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: Very very quickly, Roberts. Out of job losses will be 116 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: concentrated at the senior level, and the full scale of 117 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: rede ondancies will be known by February. The revamp has 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: been presented as an answer to investor concerns over the 119 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 2: bank's survival against competition from regional banks and FinTechs. 120 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: Now Goldman Sachs has promoted ninety five executives to its partnership, 121 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: the most for any year since twenty ten. The Wall 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: Street firm is unique among its peers in keeping the 123 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: system where partner is the highest position in the bank. 124 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Twenty six of the new partners, of women for are 125 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: black and six Hispanic. The partnership now consists of over 126 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: four hundred executives less than one percent of Goldman Sachs's workforce. 127 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: Those are your top stories on the markets. The Mscirish 128 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: pecific indexes up by three tenths of one percent, eurostocks, 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: fifty futures are three tents higher, and the ten year 130 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: treasury yield is up a basis point to four point 131 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: three to three percent. 132 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: Now, in a moment, we'll bring you more on the 133 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: central Bank decisions we had yesterday, plus Trump's appointments, and 134 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: how farmers are cashing in on Britain's taste for premium beef. 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: But if you're thinking about the weekend, I absolutely you 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: should read the latest from our Top Shelf newsletter. This 137 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: is from Kara Newman, who is Bloomberg's Cocktail and Spirits expert. 138 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Must say, I didn't know we had a cocktail. 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: And spirit when we missed the applications for that job. 140 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: Exactly. She has this delightful job. She talks about the 141 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: litmus test for any bar being how they deliver the basics. 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: A good martini and a grony. 143 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: Get gripped by decision paralysis when you're faced with a 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: cocktail lists where you're like, I want the classic, but 145 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: also I'm very excited by this other thing, which is 146 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: usually something mad. 147 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: And that's what she's been investigating. She says she usually 148 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: goes for the kind of the martini, but lately she's 149 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: started to order the weirdest cocktail on the menu, and 150 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: she's been writing about how it's been a really. 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: The cigarette martini would apparently described as like kissing someone 152 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: out of this smog. As cigarets, that is a very 153 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: odd description, very nice and yet yeah, indeed and yet 154 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: are very attractive. And I quite liked one of the 155 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: other drinks that Chalott's and his editor as well, which 156 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: is the Fireball reramped. No, it was crier ball because 157 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: it includes apparently human tears. 158 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: I have no idea how you would include that into 159 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: a drink, But anyway, one thing that you might want 160 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: to be thinking about for your weekend. Yeah, from one 161 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: of our writers this morning. 162 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: Let's bring you more in air in our top story 163 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: and the decision by the Federal Reserve to cut interest 164 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: rates yesterday, but it was Jerome Pile's readiness to withstand 165 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: pressure to quit that was a more striking development as 166 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: the Trump transition ramps up. Joining us now with more 167 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: Bloomberg TV anchor Criti Gupta Critique, good morning. So Joam 168 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: Pell dodged lots of questions and we heard some of 169 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: them there about politics and policy, but he did engage 170 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: with some of the questions about his own job. 171 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: He was asked if he would resign if President elect 172 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: Trump asked him to, and the answer was a very 173 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: simple no. Nothing more added, just a simple no. He 174 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: did say it was not permitted under the law for 175 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: that to happen, but really stuck to the script, did 176 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: not expand much on what he had to say, and 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: I think that makes it quite clear, and I think 178 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: for our international audience the context is key here in 179 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: that when he's talking about what is and is not 180 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: permitted under the law, you have to have Senate approval 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: to replace. So whoever would potentially pick or replace Jerome 182 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 3: Powell has to be approved by the Senate. And in 183 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: terms of the mandate for the Federal Reserve, which remember 184 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: has a dual mandate under Unlike several of the other 185 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: central banks around the world that we keep an eye on, 186 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: it keeps eye on both employment and inflation. There's a 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: dual mandate, whereas say ECB, for example, only has an 188 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: inflationary mandate. That mandate changes if Congress approves it. The 189 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: problem is we've never done that before. The other problem 190 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: is that this is the first time we may actually 191 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: and it's not confirmed yet, but we may have a sweep, 192 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: a red sweep in the Senate, in the House of Representatives, 193 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: with a president at the helm of that from the 194 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: Republican party. It makes it easier to change that mandate. 195 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: But again, this is a mandate that goes back decades, 196 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 3: if not even longer than that, so you really want 197 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: to keep an eye on on how that progresses. But 198 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: the mandate is more likely to change than the actual 199 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: pick itself. 200 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the independence of central banks seen as absolutely 201 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: central to getting better economic policy and outcomes. Basically, that's 202 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: why there's independence, isn't there. But look, the exchange was 203 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: certainly cut and it does perhaps look as if the 204 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: battle lines are maybe being drawn between the Fed and 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: the White House ten weeks to go until Trump is 206 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:26,239 Speaker 1: actually in the White House. In terms of the other posts, 207 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: we're getting more details around the four thousand government jobs 208 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: that are going to be filled by the new incoming administration. 209 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: As you say, Republicans on track to win total control 210 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: of the government. It seems at the moment, what are 211 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the key roles in individuals we're thinking about. 212 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of them outside of the Federal Reserve. 213 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: And look, this is going to be a rotating cabinet 214 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: in terms of who is actually going to be the 215 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: biggest players. But I think the one that we know 216 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 3: for sure from overnight is Susie wils She was kind 217 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: of a campaign manager slash de facto chief of staff 218 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: during Trump's kind of post presidency term and if she 219 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: will now be the first female chief of staff in 220 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: American history. So this is a massive deal regardless of 221 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: what party you are affiliated with. She's someone who has 222 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: long been a Republican political operative. She comes from the 223 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 3: state of Florida. Her dad was a NFL broadcaster, so 224 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: she is kind of in this world of mass America 225 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: and is very patriotic for lack of a better term, 226 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: and is therefore someone who has proven success in this 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: political comeback. And I was part of the kind of 228 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: speech and praise that Donald Trump had given her when 229 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: making this announcement. Some of the other names as well 230 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: stood out to me is Marco Rubio as a potential 231 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: candidate for Secretary of state. This is significant because Marco 232 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 3: Rubio ran against President Trump in twenty sixteen, and he 233 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 3: also is someone who is not only from Florida, but 234 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: has been very engaged with the Latino vote. If you 235 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: look at the selection, the biggest demographic that Trump has 236 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: managed to flip has been Latino men, and Marco Rubio 237 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: has been key to that strategy. Despite of course them 238 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: having a little bit of their beef back in the day, 239 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: they do seem to be allied on this front. So 240 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: he's someone who could be considered, and then plenty of 241 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 3: others kind of in the works for Treasury Secretary. Scott 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: Bissette seems to be one who's been very outspoken against 243 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: Jenny Ellen. He's a hedge fund manager and a major 244 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: player on Wall Street as well who's been very very 245 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: crucial in terms of using the Treasury as a way 246 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: to expand the protectionist agenda, which is something that the 247 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Treasury is usually a little insulated with given it kind 248 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: of deals with currency and issuant and Scott Bissett might 249 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: change that. 250 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: Okay, crazy good to Thank you very much for joining 251 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: us this morning with the latest on what's going on 252 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: in the US now. 253 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Britain is indulging in a growing appetite for wagyu beef 254 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: and it's an opportunity for farmers. The number of wag 255 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: you capital in Britain has more than doubled to over 256 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand as consumers are willing to pay more 257 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: for premium Meet Journeys now to discuss he's been big 258 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: to UK retail reporter Jennifer Creary, Jennifer, good morning. What 259 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: exactly is wagu beef? 260 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,239 Speaker 9: I thought it was Japanese, Well, wag you literally translates 261 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 9: to Japanese beef. 262 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: It's among the best meat in the world, and. 263 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 9: That's because it has a really high fat content. It's 264 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 9: melt in your mouth, it's buttery, it's umami. It tastes 265 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 9: really delicious. But as a result it's really expensive. 266 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: You know, you're looking. 267 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 9: To pay hundreds of dollars and just a stake of 268 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 9: wagu in Japan at least. But as a result it 269 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 9: presents a pretty lucrative offer to kind of restaurants suppliers 270 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 9: as something to cash in on. 271 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: Well, what is driving that growing demand and particularly when 272 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: we think about where it's coming from in the UK? 273 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, so a lot of this goes back 274 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 9: to the pandemic. So during COVID, we were taught to 275 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 9: kind of shine eating out and eat at home, particularly 276 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 9: with kind of ensuing inflationary pressures on household budgets, and 277 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 9: so as a result, consumers were looking to trade up 278 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 9: on more kind of premium items to kind of treat themselves. 279 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: And Wagon just becomes past of that story. 280 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 9: So we're seeing a growing trend of premiumization and wag 281 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 9: you is associated with you know, high quality meat, and 282 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 9: so as a result, consumers want to kind of treat 283 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 9: them to the occasional Wago steak. 284 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So then how are farmers overseas then making it work? 285 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: You know, it's expensive, you can see the attraction maybe 286 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: of offering it to more picky consumers, but how are 287 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: farmers making it work for them? 288 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, So what's really interesting is that in Japan there 289 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 9: are four official Wagu breeds, and you know, they're not. 290 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: The easiest cattle to raise, and Japan has. 291 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 9: Really clamped down on the export of kind of live genetics. 292 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 9: But you know, there is a small herd outside of Japan. 293 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 9: So one of the ways that overseas farmers and making 294 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 9: this work is by breeding Wagu cattle with some of 295 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 9: their local dairy herds. So in the UK at least, 296 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 9: we see a lot of kind of cross breed cattle. 297 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 9: So you mentioned earlier the number of wagu cattle in 298 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 9: the UK has more than doubled last year to more 299 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 9: than thirty five thousand, and the majority of that are 300 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 9: cross breed cattle, and that's one of the ways that 301 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 9: farmers are able to scale up a lot quicker and 302 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 9: meet that growing demand for wagu. 303 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: For Jennifer, have you tasted both of them and is 304 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: there a difference? 305 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there definitely is. 306 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 9: Listen and you know, if you were to put a 307 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 9: British waggy steak in front of a Japanese consumer, I 308 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 9: think they'd be expecting something a lot different too. The 309 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 9: farming techniques in the UK are different. The kind of 310 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 9: feed that they're given is different. You know, it's a 311 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 9: lot more grass based and it does affect the texture. 312 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: Of the meat and the taste. You know, it's a bit. 313 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 9: Chewier in the UK and the UK were more used 314 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 9: to chewy steaks, but it is a better quality steak. 315 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 9: It does have a higher fat content, so but you know, 316 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 9: if you're going to your local supermarket, your local Waitros 317 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 9: or Alda, and you're expecting to find a waggy steak 318 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 9: that you get in Japan, You're probably going to be disappointed. 319 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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