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Speaker 1: Cawen's entertainment report is on the Pread show Man.

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Speaker 3: The mystery around Kurt Cobain's death is back in the news.

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Speaker 3: You've probably seen some of this on social but it's

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Speaker 3: not because it's coming.

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Speaker 4: From the current police.

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Speaker 3: A retired Seattle police captain is claiming the late Nirvana

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Speaker 3: frontman's nineteen ninety four deaths may have been mishandled, and

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Speaker 3: is suggesting it should be looked at as a possible homicide,

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Speaker 3: not a suicide.

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Speaker 4: Kurt was found.

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Speaker 3: Dead, as you know, in his Seattle home from a

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Speaker 3: shotgun wound, and investigators ruled it a suicide at the time,

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Speaker 3: though over the years many fans, including me, have questioned

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Speaker 3: if that's really what happened. The former officer and some

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Speaker 3: independent investigators say parts of the evidence don't add up,

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Speaker 3: and now this former captain saying that is reigniting long

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Speaker 3: running conspiracy theories. Seattle police say nothing has changed, though

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Speaker 3: they still consider the case close and have no plans

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Speaker 3: to reopen it. But I'm not so sure, and I

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Speaker 3: kind of believe this former captain. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: weird tourist attractions we've been to. I went to that

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Speaker 3: house in Seattle and jumped the fence like a crazy

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Speaker 3: person because I love him so much. All right, HGTVS

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Speaker 3: Rehab addicts star Nicole Curtis, I mean former I should

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Speaker 3: say it says that racial slur scandal cost her the show,

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Speaker 3: of course, and was allegedly a money demand. She claimed

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Speaker 3: someone tried to extort her, threatening to release the video

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Speaker 3: of her using a horrific word unless she paid shere,

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Speaker 3: and the footage was leaked. HGTV, as you know, polled

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Speaker 3: her show following the backlash. She has apologized for the language,

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Speaker 3: but says the situation stemmed from betrayal and attempted extortion

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Speaker 3: behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: Lady, shut up.

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Speaker 1: How about don't use the word and then nobody can

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Speaker 1: put you in that position?

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Speaker 3: Correct, you apologize? Shut up, you control yourself. I mean

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Speaker 3: it's giving Like I have a black best friend. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why you're talking about somebody's motives for exposing you.

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Speaker 3: There would be no video if you didn't use the word.

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Speaker 3: Stop talking. I don't believe your apology.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for redemption. I'm all for people coming out

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Speaker 2: and acknowledging their wrongdoing and apolic but like that's the

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Speaker 2: only place we need to be on this stuff. Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't care that the only reason it came out

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Speaker 2: is because you refuse to write. I'm not the last

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Speaker 2: bit concerned about your narrative. The only thing you should

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Speaker 2: be doing now is apologizing and asking for forgive me.

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Speaker 2: I learned some stuff that I don't care.

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Speaker 1: About any of it.

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Speaker 2: That's it, and then over time maybe people will forgive

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Speaker 2: You can have your job back if in fact, your

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Speaker 2: your apology is here, but you know, not concerned with

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Speaker 2: your no. No, it's so so if you paid them,

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Speaker 2: then we never would have known that you make racist

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Speaker 2: statements like you know her racistwards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, No, I cannot stand people who blame the

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Speaker 3: reaction to an action instead of the initial action. It

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Speaker 3: drives me insane. And I want you.

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Speaker 1: To be talking about what you didn't. Why wrong? That's it,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's that's it, that's it, that's all right.

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Speaker 3: And I do think we as a society we went

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Speaker 3: really far one way, and I do think people are

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Speaker 3: now being open to people admitting mistakes if they seem

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Speaker 3: genuine in learning.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, because people are gonna scrub I don't. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's pretty awful. Yeah, No, that's not a misunderstanding. That's

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Speaker 5: not I didn't know that was going to offend people.

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Speaker 5: That's that's yeah, it flew out exactly so that it's awful.

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Speaker 5: But but that being done with you, Like I, people

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Speaker 5: are gonna they can pay the price for their actions.

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Speaker 5: They can learn, they can offer, you know, their sincere

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Speaker 1: But this whole thing, it took.

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Speaker 4: Away her apology.

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Speaker 1: For me.

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Speaker 4: It's a credibility. Now I'm like, oh, okay, I.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't pay money, so they ruined me. No, you ruined you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Period. Moving on to a happier story.

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift was well, probably unhappy for some people, but

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Speaker 3: for me, I'm happy. She was officially named the world's

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Speaker 3: biggest selling Recording Artists of last year by the International

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Speaker 3: International Federation.

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Speaker 6: Of the Phonographic Industry Holy IFPI, I should say, the

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Speaker 6: ranking looks at global performances across streaming, digital downloads, physical.

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Speaker 3: Album sales which yes we sold buy those and I

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Speaker 3: don't know why. And Taylor finished number one thanks to

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Speaker 3: a massive continued demand of course for her catalog, especially

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Speaker 3: her re recorded Taylor's Versions albums. She now owns everything,

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Speaker 3: so you can listen to the old, the new, the

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Speaker 3: tour buzz and this just extends her streak at the top. Really,

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Speaker 3: she's now earned if PI Global number one title, that

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Speaker 3: title six times more than any other artist in the

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Speaker 3: award's history. Other major global acts rounded out the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five top ten. Bought her cross platform dominance from

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Speaker 3: streaming to vinyl.

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Speaker 4: Which is crazy. He kept her firmly ahead of the pack.

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Speaker 3: And lastly, John Rule did apologize for that beef with

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Speaker 3: Tony Yeo and his g Unit beef.

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Speaker 4: He does say that they will.

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Speaker 3: Never be friends, but he doesn't want to be at war,

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Speaker 3: but he actually says having enemies in life is something

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Speaker 3: that you should do.

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Speaker 5: I want to commend you for even apologizing for the

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Speaker 5: plane incident, but what paid you apologize? I was surprised

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Speaker 5: that you apologize.

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Speaker 3: I know that's right, So we got to ask you

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Speaker 3: to when can we have this sit down?

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Speaker 4: You fifty ton yo? You know, Oh my god, job.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen. I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 7: Here's the reality, right, Sometimes in life people have enemies,

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Speaker 7: and that's okay. You know what I'm saying, that's okay

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Speaker 7: to have enemies. Everybody can't be friends a friend of

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Speaker 7: a friend of everybody, right, But what I'm saying is

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Speaker 7: you don't also have to be at work.

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Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about that?

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Speaker 1: If that one's for you, I feel you.

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Speaker 3: Brother, I do feel I do agree with a friend

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Speaker 3: to all as a friend to none, I do. I

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Speaker 3: don't believe in being friends with everyone. But I also

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Speaker 3: don't think I need enemies. I don't think that's something

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Speaker 3: I need. I don't think that's a part of life.

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Speaker 2: The enemy to me little different, but it has the

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Speaker 2: same kind of action word as hate, because I think

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Speaker 2: it to have an enemy means I'm for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: putting energy towards this rivalry. So there are people that

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Speaker 2: don't like me, but I don't put and I'm not

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Speaker 2: putting energy towards that, and I don't like them. But like,

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Speaker 2: the enemy means were like actively to me, the same

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Speaker 2: way that hate means, like I'm actively disliking you, Like

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Speaker 2: I choose to hate very few people and consider very

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Speaker 2: few people my enemy, because that means that's almost saying

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Speaker 2: I'm giving you too much.

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Speaker 3: Right, But he did say, you don't have to be

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Speaker 3: a war, so he's acknowledging that they would never be friends.

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Speaker 4: And he knows a thing I don't like him, so

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Speaker 4: we won't be friends. We're enemies, but we don't have

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Speaker 4: to be a war. And he said sorry, And I

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Speaker 4: love that. P I feel like you have an enemy?

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Speaker 4: Do you have? Is there anyone who picture? I really don't.

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Speaker 3: Think I have enemies, like fred zaid, like I don't

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Speaker 3: like walk around and go, this is my enemy, Like

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Speaker 3: that sounds like Mortal Kombat, Like I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: But I do believe that you need haters to be popping.

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Speaker 3: I really do, or at least haters are different points

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Speaker 3: of your life and that's okay, and then the girl

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Speaker 3: that's that's okay, and oh no, Like there.

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Speaker 2: Are people that don't like me for reasons that aren't

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Speaker 2: that they've come up with that aren't real reasons. So

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Speaker 2: like I can't, I can't battle with you there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like I can't. People, I don't know what to tell you,

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Speaker 2: like if I didn't do it, this this reason that

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Speaker 2: you've concocted that that you don't like me and I

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Speaker 2: didn't do it, Like I I've spent so many years

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Speaker 2: of my life trying to trying to reason with people

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Speaker 2: over things that don't exist. Correct, that doesn't mean I

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Speaker 2: haven't done things to upset people, but some of the

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Speaker 2: people who'd like me the least are mad about things

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Speaker 2: I didn't do. So it's like or they're not taking

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Speaker 2: into consideration their part and how we got there. So

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Speaker 2: I can't reason with you. So I can't put any

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Speaker 2: energy into that because because I'm a pleaser, believe it

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Speaker 2: or not, And I spend a lot of time trying

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Speaker 2: to make people happy and trying to explain my way

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Speaker 2: out of things that you're but I can't. I can't

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Speaker 2: explain somebody even actually do so yeah, I do you

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Speaker 2: go be mad somewhere because I can't.

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Speaker 3: I think most conflict both people played a part in it,

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Speaker 3: and so if there's not no one willing to acknowledge

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Speaker 3: their part, then it's like we're not getting anywhere.

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Speaker 4: It's very rare that it's one person I have.

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Speaker 2: Removed from my life everyone who will not take accountability

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Speaker 2: for their side.

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Speaker 4: Of the stream, except for family, which I'm stuck with them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, fortunately my family doesn't do that. Thankful, I

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Speaker 1: love that, but I don't have many. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: We all have our things, but like, no one's not

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Speaker 2: taking responsibility.

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Speaker 1: I will say that, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But no, there are a lot of people in my

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Speaker 2: life who are like, you know, Fred's bad guy or

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Speaker 2: I don't whatever, it's a hymn problem. But like we're

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Speaker 2: not talking about you apparently, and I just can't. I

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Speaker 2: can't do it. What can you do with that?

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Speaker 4: Nothing? So I choose not to true their business not yours.

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Speaker 2: Sadly, it means that my already small friend group is

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Speaker 2: even smaller. But like, I'm sorry, Like, if you quality

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Speaker 2: over Clo, you're you projecting onto me the reason why

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Speaker 2: we're not cool, except that's not a real reason, and

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Speaker 2: it's not and you've made that up. And then additionally,

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about your part of this, So then

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Speaker 2: what's the point. We're never going to get to any

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Speaker 2: resolution unless I just take the sword every time, won't

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Speaker 2: do it?

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Speaker 4: There you go, boom, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Wrap it up. Okay.

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Speaker 3: The free iHeartRadio app is where you can get more

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Speaker 3: of this wisdom.

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Speaker 1: This really really.

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Speaker 2: People for the last couple of weeks have been trying

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Speaker 2: to Oh, Fred's really fired up about this and that

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Speaker 2: and the other thing. No, that's just I'm just you

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Speaker 2: know who is stirring it up. That's just me stirring

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Speaker 2: it up. This was deeply personal. Thank you for that

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Speaker 2: therapeutic moment. My therapist is at home listening. She'd be

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Speaker 2: so happy.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm proud of you because I do think like me.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you try to like bargain or convince people why

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Speaker 3: that they should not dislike you for a reason, and

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Speaker 3: it's like, no, if you like me, you're just like

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Speaker 3: all of me.

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Speaker 2: Yea, whether it's personal, whether it's around here where there's

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Speaker 2: people who listen, you know, people I've seen people over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years get so fired up about

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Speaker 2: things that, and and they've come up with their own

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Speaker 2: reason to be angry, and it's not the real reason correct.

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Speaker 2: And I try and explain it, but people don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear it because they've already convinced themselves of why

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Speaker 2: they want to be angry.

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Speaker 1: I can do nothing with that.

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Speaker 4: Ill are committed to being angry.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes them yes, okay, now here we go, here we go,

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Speaker 3: there we go, come through