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Speaker 1: second dat day. How early do you introduce somebody to

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Speaker 1: all seem like terrible people. I hate them. You should

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Speaker 1: George is on the phone today and that's how he

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Speaker 1: her birthday party. How's it going, George? Good? How are

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Speaker 1: each other dating app oh, like a tender type of situation. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Like that is what I want to unwrap later. Did

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And was she excited to see you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: jubil In the morning, George is on the phone with us.

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Speaker 1: This is Jewil from Brook and Jewil in the Morning. Um, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: I'm calling you today because one of our listeners emailed

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Speaker 1: m It's a segment that we do on our show

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Speaker 1: called the Second Date Update. It's where if you go

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Speaker 1: I think you would remember going on a date with

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I didn't. Sounds like regret in your voice

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Speaker 1: You know what? He was great with my friends, but

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Speaker 1: adults thing. I don't know right now. This whole situation

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Speaker 1: is just confusing. It's really confusing to me too, George,

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Speaker 1: did you ask her father if you could marry her?

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Speaker 1: It was in the context of a fun conversation, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was just like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: you weren't joking though, because you just didn't deny it.

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Speaker 1: Look well, I mean, first of all, I didn't want

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Speaker 1: it's kind of that was some credibility, you know, So

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, for this guy to take me seriously,

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Speaker 1: I should ask the question. Let's talk about putting me

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Speaker 1: in the awkward position of this is my first Like, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess second date with you, and I'm meeting your parents,

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Speaker 1: but I'm supposed to hold the court for for an hour, okay,

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Speaker 1: but you don't ask them to marry me after we've

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Speaker 1: only been on one date. It just came up. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't say. I didn't say, hey, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: me marrying your daughter? I don't understand what's so crazy. Look,

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Speaker 1: I just turned thirty. I'm in the present company of adults,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about adults thing. Marriage is on everybody's mind.

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Speaker 1: You have gone a coffee with this girl, and that

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Speaker 1: is it. We hit it off. Yeah, but hitting it

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Speaker 1: off is way different than Hey, we're gonna get married, sir,

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Speaker 1: can I have your daughter's hand in marriage? I didn't

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Speaker 1: ask for her hand in marriage that moment. I asked

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Speaker 1: down the line. Oh so it was a future proposal

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Speaker 1: that you were thinking about. It was a future hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make it any better, George, whether it was

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Speaker 1: in the future or not, you don't ask it now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we did hit it off at the coffee shop,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't hit off to say, Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: way too uptight about this whole thing. I'm up tight

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Speaker 1: about it. Really. Yeah, well I think it's crazy. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm sorry that I saw a future you

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Speaker 1: know together, I'm sorry that makes me crazy. Well, then

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, Lisa, you should be flattered George wanted

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Speaker 1: Why is that not flattering? Because it's creepy? Okay, I

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Speaker 1: guess I just don't understand. I feel like that's like

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Speaker 1: a pretty high compliment you could pay somebody. Gude, you

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Speaker 1: don't even know her. You just met her, well, and

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Speaker 1: she's having me meet her parents. Yeah, but she didn't

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Speaker 1: specifically say, hey, come meet my parents. Didn't she just

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Speaker 1: ask you to go to her birthday? Yeah? But she

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Speaker 1: I mean you think she would see that and be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so like pissed off that she left you with her

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Speaker 1: whole thing up right now. Hey, sir, No, I wasn't pissed.

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Speaker 1: I was actually like, Okay, she must really like me.

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Speaker 1: She's putting me together with her parents. I never heard.

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Speaker 1: What did her dad say to you after you ask

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Speaker 1: for her hand in marriage? He just laughed it off,

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Speaker 1: and I did too, and I took that as like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he likes me. I love to know what he was thinking. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: this is normally the point where I ask if you

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Speaker 1: guys want to go out on a second date and

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Speaker 1: I will pay for it. But instead, George, would you

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Speaker 1: like to propose to Lisa right now? I will pay

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Speaker 1: for the catering at your wedding. If she says yes,

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Speaker 1: please don't. Lisa, don't want free, free wedding catering. I'll

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Speaker 1: pay for it. No, no, thank you. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: I think the moment's passed on that one, didn't you sure?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Lisa, as it passed. Yes, it's definitely passed.

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Speaker 1: It was never even there. It's a good point, Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time anytime yep. And I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that you're not going to be getting married to George

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Speaker 1: anytime soon. Thankfully. If a girl ever asked me to

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Speaker 1: meet her parents, I will likely decline. Brooking chubble in

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Speaker 1: the morning,