1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what's 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: going on? 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 3: Welcome in, Welcome in Week eighteen college football playoff, all 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: this good stuff going on here. 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 4: I want to wish everybody a happy New year. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Happy new Year to YouTube. Jmart. 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 4: Everything good on your end, buddy, Yeah. 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: Man, very very good, very very blessed. Good Christmas, looking 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: forward to ball today and tomorrow. Everything's good, hope the same. 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: It's true for you. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely things are good. Thanks are fine. I'll tell you what. 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: We'll get to trust here in a second. But I 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: got to tell you big things happening in my life here. 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: J Mart. 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, but me and 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: my nephew Mini Matt, we have an annual Mario Kart Showdown. 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: Okay, we plan on Switch one, we play Mario Kart 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: World on Switch to we go, We we go, whoa, 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: oh school we like? 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: Okay, the original Wei and we do all thirty two races. 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: We're getting crazy this year. He's going to try to 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: get his computer, maybe webcam, you know, just try to 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: record it. Maybe we'll do a little highlight tape afterward. 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Who knows. We're getting crazy this year. But this I 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: hope this is the year. 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: J Mart. 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: We've done this at least ten times over the years, 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: and I've won once. 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: I've won one time, So I'm hoping. 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm hoping the end of twenty twenty five brings me 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: great fortune and I finally take this little punk down. 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: You know, he just are you Alan Iverson? There's this 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: a no practice situation for you? Yeah? Oh yeah, why 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: we're not winning at all? It's like this is the 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: only time of year. Yeah, I think it's it. 44 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons there's no practice all year. 45 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: It's just a one event, you know, and hopefully you 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: bring it that day. And the other thing is he's 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: young yet I'm not you know what I mean, Like 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: there's something about young people in video games that they 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: just have way more of an advantage than older people do. 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: So I'm racing against that as well. So you know, 51 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: we all have today, tomorrow, today. Yeah, so after the show, right, 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: like maybe like a half hour after this show, let's 53 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: get it out. As mills Lane used to say, right, 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: the big thing that's going on, big thing's going on today. 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: But hey, I want to talk to you Jason about trust. Okay, 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 3: it's the theme of the first segment, if you will. 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: I got a couple of examples, couple of subjects that 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: turn into a couple of questions. Right, So if you 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: look at this battle on Saturday, we'll start with the 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: NFL will weave our way to college football. Now, if 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: you look at this battle on Saturday between the Seahawks 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers, winner gets the division, winner 63 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: clinches the one seed, big stakes, big steaks. Who do 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: you trust more? Is it Sam Donald or is it 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: that forty nine Ers defense? 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: And it's one of these, like, oh oh gosh, it's 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 4: not easy to pick one. 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: But if you have to break the tie, do you 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: trust Donald or that forty nine Ers defense more? 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Man? I think just because this is the time of 71 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: year where Sam Donald has historically turned into a pumpkin. Yeah, 72 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's different with Jays. I mean, 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: he's looked great this year, and the forty nine Ers 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: defense definitely has been spotty. Man. That is a really, 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: really tough question because there's reasons not to pick both. 76 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: But then you're just like, well, but San Francisco often 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: wins games and rises to occasions when you're least expecting it. 78 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: But then I'm watching Fred Warner in a varsity jacket 79 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: on TV on Sunday, so obviously he's not going to 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: be in a game, and I will take I'm gonna 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the weird. I'm gonna take Darnald. Yeah, 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Darnald. Maybe not by a lot, but 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: I think the connection that he has with with Barner 84 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: and with JSN and just the way that he can 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: hand the ball off to Charbonnay, I'm not sure that 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: San Francisco is gonna be particularly adept at stopping to run. 87 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: So I just I'm gonna go with what Darnald has 88 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: around him as much as him and just give him 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt for one week and say 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: all right end of the season. This is the one 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: where you usually don't show up prove us wrong. That's right. 92 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I'm with you, and I don't 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: like it, and that I don't like being with Donald, Right. 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: I love being with you, Jmar, but I don't love 95 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: being on the Donald side. It feels weird. You're just 96 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: like you have nightmares. Going right back to last season, 97 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: same scenario, right, yeah, I'm seeing ghosts with the Jets. 98 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: And then last season Division on the line, one seed 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: on the line, can you beat the Lions? And it 100 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: was a disaster. He played badly, He had guys wide 101 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: open in the end zone, couldn't get him the football. 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: They don't win the one seed. And then the next 103 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: week in the playoffs, right, he was even worse. He 104 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 3: took nine sacks in a loss against the Rams. So yeah, yeah, 105 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: these big stage games, you're like, oh gosh, am I 106 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: really going with Donald? But listen, Jackson Smith and Jigba 107 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: has been fantastic. If that running game is working anywhere 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: near what it was last week against Carolina, Sharboney went crazy, right, 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: So if you've got that running game cranked up, which 110 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: you could against the forty nine ers, defense that obviously 111 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: takes some of the responsibilities off of Darnold's plate. And 112 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: I just look at this Niners defense. Man, they're dead 113 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: last in the NFL in sacks defensively. There they have 114 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: eighteen sacks on the season. The Broncos have sixty four. Like, now, 115 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: that's that's first place, and that's last place in that category. 116 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: And they lost their main guy, right, I mean they 117 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: lost Nick Bosa, that's right. And he was the guy 118 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: that caught that. Even when he was not the one 119 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: getting the sack, you had to account for him so much. 120 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: He was such a disruptive force that you took him 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: out of the equation and they just there's no teeth 122 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: on that front line, right, that's right. 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: He doesn't free anybody up, right like he right, he 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: isn't getting chipped, and well, this frees up somebody else, 125 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: or he he forces the quarterback to step up and 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: there's a defensive tackle right there who gets the sack. Yeah, 127 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: it's completely different. If you look at the Niners dead 128 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: last in sacks, they're looking up at the Jets. Jets 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: pass rush fears m over there, Like the Jets have 130 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: twenty six sacks on the season. The Niners have eighteen. 131 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: That is just terrible. They just got carved up, not 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: only by the Bears. And you're like, okay, Caleb Williams, 133 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: he's got a ton of skill. They got carved up 134 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: by old man Rivers, like Philip Rivers came off the 135 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: couch after a five year hiatus and carved up the 136 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: forty nine ers. So what do you think is gonna 137 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: happen come playoff time? And in this game, right before 138 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: playoff time, I think Donald has a leg up on 139 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers defense, is what I think here? 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think that is the 141 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: smartest play if you had to, if you had to 142 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: bet on one. And look if Donald can kind of 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: shake off that reputation of him in crucial moments at 144 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: the end of the season. I mean, all of a sudden, 145 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: you're looking at Seattle and saying, all right, they could 146 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: go all the way, like because they're very dangerous. We 147 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: know what they can do defensively, we know what they 148 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: can do running the ball if he just doesn't turn 149 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: it over. And and you know, eighteen sacks on the 150 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: season is barely one per game as a team. Not 151 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: that's right. I mean, Miles Garrett is laughing at them, 152 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: that's right, right now. 153 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: But Miles Garrett himself has more than the forty nine 154 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: ers collectively, right, So one would. 155 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: Think one would think if you're Darnald, you've got a 156 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: pretty good chance at a clean pocket most of that game. Like, 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 2: you're gonna have more of an opportunity in that spot. 158 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: If that's the case, like, just don't turn it over, 159 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: just find the open man and don't try to do 160 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: too much. You know, it's all The problem for the 161 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: forty nine ers or playing against the forty nine ers 162 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: is you're gonna be playing against genius Shanahan and whatever 163 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: he's got offensively, and you're catching brock Party at a 164 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 2: time where all of a sudden he decided he's really 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: good again. We'll see whether or not that changes in 166 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, but you know, he's making all 167 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: the plays and CMC is having an incredible season. He's 168 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: been healthy much throughout. So you're gonna have to outscore 169 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: them potentially, but that's a very doable thing because their 170 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: defense is likely to give you an opportunity to put 171 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: up four or five touchdowns. 172 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, So let me give you another one 173 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: here trust, which coincidentally is a halfway decent Megadeth song. 174 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 3: J Mart, you know, no real metal. You're all over 175 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: the medal there? So is that countdown to extinction. 176 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: Megadeth? 177 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I think it's cryptic writings, is what it is? 178 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 179 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: That one? 180 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: Who do you trust more? The Steelers offense or Lamar Jackson? 181 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: Who is? 182 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know it. 183 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna be ugly here. You got to pick one. 184 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: Who you got. 185 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to get some an acid during the 186 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: break for the for the way this show has started 187 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: with these sup questions. Oh yeah, student offensive, Lamar Jackson 188 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: right now? 189 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: No Metcalf. No Metcalf scored six points. It's against the Browns. 190 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Lamar. And the reason why if well, 191 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: if Lamar can play or whatever like that. But like, 192 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Lamar simply because in this scenario, he 193 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: knows if I just go out and ball out once 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: we're in the playoffs with all of what we've done, dude, 195 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: I have Baltimore winning the Super Bowl this year. 196 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, so did my regular co host Aaron Torres. 197 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: We both picked Baltimore before the season, and I said 198 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: this would be the year that the Steelers didn't finish 199 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: five hundred. This would be the end of Tomlins streak. 200 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: They're not gonna do that. I got I ended up 201 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: getting that wrong because for whatever, they started out really strong. 202 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: But there's nothing about what they do right now offensively 203 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: that concerns me. If I am a defense like, maybe 204 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Rogers has got one more in him. He certainly played 205 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: pretty well in the last game. But I'm gonna take 206 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: Lamar because again, Lamar's got He's got a semi truck 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: he can hand the football to as well, and Derek Henry. 208 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: He's coming off a two hundred and fourteen yard, four 209 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: touchdown performance. That's that's the biggest reason is Lamar. Lamar 210 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: can be Lamar without having to go for four hundred 211 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: yards and win this game. And the Steelers defense is 212 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: not what it has been in years past. Even if TJ. 213 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: Watts is able to play in this game, I like 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: the chances of Lamar to pull one out because the 215 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: Ravens were supposed to make it and then it's like, 216 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: how are they still possibly able to make it with 217 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: the season that they that they've had. I feel like 218 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: that's enough to spur Lamar onto one of those performances 219 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: that has people saying, well, it's Baltimore the team you 220 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: don't want to face now, And the answer that question's 221 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: gonna be no. But I think I think I'll tack Lamar. 222 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: I get it. 223 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: I totally understand what you're you're thinking on that one. 224 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, but I just cannot trust Lamar. I don't 225 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: even know that he's gonna play, which is a whole That's. 226 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. If he doesn't play, it doesn't matter. 227 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: If he's not healthy, it doesn't matter. I will say this. 228 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: I the one I don't trust right now is John Harball. 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: And it's not as a coach. When they had their 230 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: little tiff or there was the question about their relationship 231 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: last week, he said, our relationship is a plus, him 232 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: and Lamar and I said, as soon as I heard that, 233 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: oh there's a problem. Have you ever heard anybody in 234 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: your life say our relationship is a plus? Like that 235 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: sounds like a fake thing that you say to try 236 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: and stop something like it. Maybe that is how he talks. 237 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, but when I heard that, that's like 238 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: you're going You've you've over said. It's like, how's your relationship. Man, 239 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: how are you and how are you and Gina doing right? 240 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 5: Oh? 241 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: Man, couldn't be better? A plus, gonna give her a 242 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: ring next week, we're gonna get married. It's just like, oh, okay, 243 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: you've oversold it. I'm sorry things are going poorly for you. 244 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: Like when I heard that, I immediately thought, oh, there's 245 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: a problem here. There's a problem in this relationship. There's 246 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: just the season has been rough on everybody involved. So 247 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: I don't think the vibes are particularly good right now. 248 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: Now that's a good point. Yeah, if you can believe it. 249 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: A team with Aaron Rodgers, the vibes are better in 250 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five than whatever's happening in Baltimore. 251 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a man, that's a good point. If someone 252 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: came up to you like, hey, Brian Man and you 253 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: and Lisa are right, everything good, and I'm like, we 254 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: have an A plus relationship. Whoever I said that to 255 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: would be like they're breaking up, Unike Sin Lisa Flowers, 256 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: there's a problem. 257 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: That's right, It's it's over. 258 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just look, man, I don't trust the Steelers offense, 259 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: especially without DK. I mean, you saw what happened against 260 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: the Browns six points, and it somehow looked uglier than that, 261 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: if that's even possible, it did. 262 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: So I don't have great faith in them. 263 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 3: But that Ravens defense has not been like the you know, 264 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: the two thousand Ravens out there exactly right. They have 265 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: not been fantastic defensively. And I'm just looking at how 266 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: many points is that Steelers offense gonna have to generate here? 267 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: This is gonna be an ugly, gross, you know, a 268 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: game in the team's type game, right, It's not gonna 269 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: be a score fest. It's gonna be gritty, it's for 270 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: the division. It's gonna be AFC North to a tee. 271 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: So I don't think the Steelers offense has to be 272 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: prolific at all. And I just don't know that Lamar 273 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: is gonna play. I can't believe he hasn't gotten back 274 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: out there yet. He's day to day with the brus 275 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: He's got an Awi and he's still out like and 276 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: if he gets back in there, I just don't know 277 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: how effective he's going to be. This is not the 278 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: Lamar we're accustomed to. He's a special player, he's a 279 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: special talent. He's done insane things he's a two time MVP, 280 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: he probably should be a three time MVP. And yet 281 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: the version we've seen gutting through some injuries. 282 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: Right, he's had a. 283 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: Hammy, a knee, he's had a toe, he's had an ankle, 284 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: he's had all this stuff. He's not looking to run, 285 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: he's not dynamic, he's not himself. This season he went 286 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: thre games with zero touchdowns. Yeah, so like off the show, off, 287 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: another in, another one off, another injury, and I'm expecting 288 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: Lamar to just like ball out against the Steelers defense 289 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: at home with the division on the line. 290 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: I don't trust them at all in this spot. 291 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, all of that is right. I really don't either, 292 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: I guess. And you talked about it not being a shootout, Well, 293 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: I would say both teams are gonna hope for that. 294 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: Remember the Week one classic between the Jets and the 295 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Steelers that no one saw coming way back in the day, 296 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: when they had a shootout. I even think that game 297 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: might have gotten into the forties. It was wildly entertaining. 298 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: It's like, may, maybe this justin fields thing is gonna work. Nope, Nope, no, no, 299 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: not not so much. But yeah, I mean it definitely 300 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: has like seventeen thirteen written all over it. Yeah, it's 301 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: definitely a game. Yeah, it's definitely a game like that. 302 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: The bigger thing to me is just like, man, I 303 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: don't want to see either one of these teams in 304 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: the playoffs, you know, like the and maybe we'll talk 305 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: about this some and hour two, but there are definitely 306 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: there are some teams that are gonna make the playoffs 307 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: that I absolutely don't know what to make of those teams. 308 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: I should know right now what I think of you 309 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: as a football team. And there are a few teams 310 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: with records that are good where I'm just like, I 311 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: don't know if that team's good or not. I have 312 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: no idea these two teams. I know these two teams 313 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: are mid at best. Like these teams have they're just mediocre. 314 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: Could be on the back of all their jerseys. It 315 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: could be like the salute to service where you have 316 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: unity or something on the back of the jersey. All 317 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: this could just say mid on all their jerseys and 318 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: that would be it. Just because it's the season that 319 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: they've had this division the whole way through has been this. 320 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I don't know. Maybe the bigger questions, 321 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: like do you do you do you like Tomlin or 322 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: do you like Lamar? At which point I might have 323 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: gone the other way. I think it's just when I 324 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: heard Steelers offense, do you think about no Metcalf. Yes, 325 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: it's just like I don't know where the dynamic. I 326 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: don't know where it's coming from at this point. But 327 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: you could end up being right. I'm glad we found 328 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: one of the two of them to disagree on. But yeah, Lee, 329 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: at the very least, it should be a dramatic, hard 330 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: hitting game. 331 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 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I'm Brian though. 362 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: We are in for two Pros and a cup of Joe. 363 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: At the home depot, Makita tools are built for the 364 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: pros who show up early, with tools built to last 365 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 3: job after job, year after year. When the job calls 366 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: for the best call on MAKDA available at the home depot, 367 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: how pros get more done? All right, let's get to 368 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: college football here today. We got a playoff game today, Jason, 369 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: this is your you're here night cap. 370 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: We got Miami. It's all about to you. 371 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that against Ohio State. Sorry, the the Ohio. 372 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: State here is what we have going on. 373 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: And the Buckeyes pretty big, healthy favorites here, you know, 374 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: right around ten points, just to scosh under ten points. 375 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: So the question if we. 376 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: Get back to trust over here, Jason, who do you 377 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: trust more? The bigger picture is who do you trust more? 378 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: Do you trust let's go gambling. Do you trust Miami 379 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: plus nine and a half more or is it the 380 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: Ohio State at minus nine and a half more? That 381 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: is the heart of the question, and then we can 382 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: get to another side topic, if you will. With these 383 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: two teams, Let's start there, who do you trust more? 384 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: With the points spread in mind? 385 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: Ohio State? You do, yeah, I've got to win him 386 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: by over two touchdowns. I think it just comes down to, like, 387 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: Miami plays pretty solid defense. They have an outstanding player 388 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: on the field there. But I just think Carson Beck's 389 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: gonna throw a pick six and a couple of other 390 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: I don't trust him like I do not trust him 391 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: in this game against that team. I just don't. I 392 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: have seen, you know, a couple times this season where 393 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: it's been really a lot. It's been just him having 394 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: a bad game, especially a turnover field game that has 395 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: cost them. And I'm just I think some people have 396 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: forgotten that Ohio State's really good because the last time 397 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: you saw him, they were in a dogfight against an 398 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: awesome Indiana team. I'm just I'm not cutting bait on 399 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: that team at all. Yet when it comes to Ohio State, 400 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: I just think that whoever came out of Miami, me 401 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: in Texas A and m you were going to have 402 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: a kind of a bad impression just because of some 403 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: of the way that game played out, with the wind 404 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: and all the missed kicks and everything else that was 405 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: going on. I don't really look at it from there 406 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: and say, oh, whoever walks out of here is getting 407 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: killed by Ohio State. I just generally don't think Miami's 408 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: that great. I think that they have a lot of talent, 409 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: but Ohio State's got elite talent all over the field, 410 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: and I just I think this has a better chance 411 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: to be a blowout than it does to be a 412 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: field goal or touchdown game. 413 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: Fair Enough, I'm on the other side, Jason, we have 414 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: another disagreement. 415 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 4: How about that? 416 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: Do you trust Jason and Brian to agree on something 417 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: like That's the subplot over here. But I'm going with 418 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 3: the Canes. And listen, the. 419 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: More the spreader to win the game, I. 420 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: Like them to win the game, but I love them 421 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: with the spread. A couple of things here is when 422 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: I think about this game, like surface level, I love Miami. 423 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: The more I start thinking about it, the less I 424 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: love Miami. 425 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: Right, I'll give you an example. 426 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 3: So when I just look at this to begin with, 427 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: and I think of the strengths that Miami has, they 428 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: have a nasty pass rush. When you've got Reuben Bain 429 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: Junior and Mesidor, that is a greatest one to two punch. 430 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: And so I look at Julian Sayan, who he was 431 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 3: a Jared Goff like fish out of water facing a 432 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: pass rush and facing pressure against Indiana. Can Miami put 433 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: heat on him the same way? Absolutely they can. They're 434 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: also good against the rush, and I don't love Ohio 435 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: States running game either. And then defensively, look, that's where 436 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 3: it really gets you know, if he is You're right 437 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: about Carson Beck. 438 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: I don't like the guy. 439 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 3: I mean, he was fantastic at Georgia when he had 440 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: NFL talent to throw too. He had brock Bowers, he 441 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: had Mconkey. He doesn't look the same way without those guys, right, 442 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: So it's been a long time since we've seen Carson 443 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: Beck look like an elite quarterback. He was thought to 444 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 3: be maybe the number one overall pick, and then he 445 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: crashed and burned last year and he's like, you know what, 446 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm even gonna go out in the draft just yet. 447 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: It's not the time favorite surfaces at Miami and it 448 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: hasn't been great. Four interceptions against Louisville. You know as 449 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: well as I can, it can look like a grease fire. 450 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: But can they run the ball at all? Fletcher Junior 451 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: was amazing against Texas A and M and he's got 452 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: a lot of talent to throw to right like Tony Daniels, like, 453 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: these aren't really good weapons. And as much as I 454 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: love Ohio State's talent, and they are talented left and right. 455 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: Everywhere you look, there's talent. They just aren't tested. They 456 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: did not play this gauntlet of a schedule. They played 457 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: the opposite of a gauntlet. Their whole resume is barely 458 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: beat Texas, barely lost to IU. 459 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: That's it. 460 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: Everything else is just inconsequential team after inconsequential team. So 461 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't trust Ohio State at all, and I get 462 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: nine and a half points. 463 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 4: I love that. And I also like that. 464 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith, the stud wide receiver, he showed up the 465 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: press conferences saying we'll see Indiana again. It's like that 466 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: means you guys are going to be in the title game, right, 467 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: like the Colliers don't. By the way, I do not 468 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: have them there. Okay, you don't have Ohio State making 469 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: it there? No, okay, you gotta getting tripped up the 470 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: next round then. 471 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I mean, I my, I guess if we're 472 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: doing all of it. But like I mean, I've got 473 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: I've got Indiana and Georgia in the final, okay, So yeah, 474 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 2: just to go ahead and throw that out there. But 475 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: in terms of what you're saying, I agree, and I 476 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: said that was the reason why I was a little 477 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: reticent about Ohio State. Is what happens when somebody punches 478 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: them in the mouth. Well, they lost to Indiana. Yeah 479 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: that was a conference title game and all this, but 480 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: it did determine the number one seed and and all 481 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: those things, and Miami is going to try and punch 482 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: them in the mouth. But let me ask you this, 483 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure Crystal Ball is necessarily who you 484 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: want on game day. Totally, totally. Yeah, That's That's another 485 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: piece of it for me is just like in crunch time, 486 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: I feel like Mario Christobal has a little bit too 487 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: much James Franklin in him. Oh historically, now maybe frank 488 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: was gonna turn around. I hope he does. Like I 489 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: think he's in a perfect spot to go in there 490 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: and do some really good things at Virginia Tech. But 491 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: like christ of Ball has done a nice job, but 492 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: Christabaal has just been somebody you can't trust to make 493 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: the right call at the right time. And he's just 494 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: he hasn't managed games particularly well at the end and 495 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: things like that. The only knock really on Ryan Day 496 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: has been conservatism against Michigan for the most part, and 497 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: I just feel like, yeah, they're not tested, but they 498 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: certainly were last year and a lot of those guys 499 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: are still on that team, and saying, even if he's 500 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: getting chased around a little bit, you're right about the 501 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: run game. Like the thing that did bother me was 502 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: how Indiana stymy their run. But Indiana's phenomenal against the run. 503 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: Miami is good against the run. But I just feel 504 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: like I feel like saying the accuracy is going to 505 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: be enough in that game. Plus again, if Beck puts 506 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: the defense in a hole, things are gonna start feeling 507 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: real lethargic. I'm afraid on the Miami side. So I 508 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: think you just add all those factors in. I just 509 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: don't feel like I do not feel like the Cane 510 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: and I don't know how I mean, how tested are 511 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: the Canes they played in the ACC. So I just 512 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: I feel better about Ohio State. I just think they're 513 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: gonna show up in ball out. I think their studs 514 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: are going to show up and ball out. 515 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 3: I'll say it this way, they're as tested as Ohio 516 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: State is, because oh. 517 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: For sure, you have no question about that. 518 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: Yes, you start off facing Notre Dame first game, and 519 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: then you bookend it with that playoff game against Texas 520 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: A and m Like, that's that's as close as you 521 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: can get to what Ohio State had facing Texas and 522 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: then facing IU that's as close as you can get. 523 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: And then for both teams in the middle, it's just 524 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: a bunch of It's like, yeah, run of the mill, 525 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: acc and run of the mill, big ten teams like that, 526 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: That's what it was for both of them. I'll tell 527 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: you one thing that's funny about this with these two 528 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 3: teams here and all the strengths that they have, It's 529 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 3: funny that you can play this game with Ohio State 530 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: and how talented they are, but you can look at 531 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: little things and like. 532 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: Hey, how you feel about Ryan Day over there? 533 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: You know? 534 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: And you can play the same game with Miami all 535 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: the strengths that they have. You can be like how 536 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: you feel about Carson back exactly how you feel about Crystoball. 537 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: So with the with Ohio State, it's it's tight. Ryan Day, 538 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: you know you mentioned it. Are we gonna see something 539 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: like that? Now he's calling plays Brian Hartline, who's set 540 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: to take the job at South Florida. He's gonna be 541 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: the head coach over there. Ryan Day's like, Hey, how 542 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 3: about I call plays. You get ready for South Florida 543 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: there B Hart, you know, I'll get ready for the 544 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: college football playoff and I'll be calling plays here. 545 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: How does that look? 546 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 4: Does it look great? 547 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: Does it look like you know, Dan Campbell when he 548 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: took over the first week at least to get the 549 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: Washington Commanders, or does it look like tight? Ryan Day's 550 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: fingerprints are all over this tight game plan? 551 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: Right, we look at that. If it looks like if 552 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: it looks like that, they're gonna lose. Yeah, Like they can't. 553 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: They cannot get tight, like the Conservatism can't be there. 554 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: He's got to be aggressive. He's got to play like 555 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: he knows that his talent is better than their talent. 556 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: And you know that's gonna take some trust on his 557 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: part on his guys. But he's got to trust Jeremiah Smith. 558 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: He's got to unleash that offense. They got to take 559 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: some big time shots early in the game, try to 560 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: set the tone. Put Miami's defense on its back heels. 561 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: I think they can do that. But that point is 562 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: right and heartline moving on, and you know, I'm more 563 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm more concerned about Ohio State. If we're gonna keep 564 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: getting all the great wide receivers. Now the heart Line's 565 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: gone because Heartline was so responsible on the recruiting side 566 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: first off as a former wide receiver, but he was 567 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: the guy that you know is largely credited for the 568 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: fleet of wide receivers that have been there over this 569 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: stretch for Ryan Day. I want to see what that 570 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: looks like in the future. This year, You've already got 571 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: your guys, you know, use Tate and U Smith and 572 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: put Saying in positions to succeed and try to protect 573 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: him against that pass rush. And you have a pretty 574 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 2: good chance because I still think Beck is good to 575 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: give you at least two interceptions to this guy. He 576 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: might be at least Hey. 577 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: This show is sponsored by Draft Kings sportsbook and official 578 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA. Right now, 579 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: use the promo code two pros to claim your special 580 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: offer at Draft Kings. Again, that promo code two pros 581 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: at Draft Kings. The crown is yours man. If good, 582 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: that's the thing good. Carson Beck has to show up 583 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: tonight Fort Miami and he can. That's the thing he can. 584 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: You know, he's capable of being good in this spot. 585 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: He's capable of out playing Julian saying, who has been 586 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: a completion machine. He's been a completion may in this season, 587 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: he's completing nearly seven Like, where's he at? 588 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: Almost eighty percent. 589 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: Of his passes? 590 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: Is that where we're at with? 591 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: That's insanity from him? But hey, man, he throws the 592 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: ball real fast. So does Carson Beck. That's the one 593 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: thing like Ohio State has a real pass rush. Carson 594 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: Beck gets rid of the football very fast. Quick passes. 595 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: We're talking two point three seconds. That's the third fastest 596 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: in the entire FBS. So he can get rid of 597 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: the football pretty fast. And the thing with Julian saying, 598 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: right like they get out they get quick pressure. What 599 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: is what Miami does second most pressures in sacks with 600 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: the first two point five seconds of drop back. So 601 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: like if the quarterback drops back, holds the ball right 602 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: for two point five seconds, the Canes are nasty. The 603 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: second best pressure rate, second best sacks. 604 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 4: So you gotta get rid of that football really fast. 605 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: And if Julian saying isn't doing that, man, I'll tell 606 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: you what, Baine Junior mesador they can eat. I can't 607 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: wait for this matchup, but I think nine and a 608 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: half man It's one of those games, J Mart, where 609 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: you know you at least I go into it like 610 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: you're giving me nine and a half with all this 611 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: NFL talent in the trenches, I will happily take it. 612 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: And then the game starts off and you're like, all 613 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: right down seven at halftime. 614 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how I. 615 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: Feel about the plus nine and a half. It could 616 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: absolutely play out like that too. Oh yeah, it definitely could. 617 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you make a really good argument. I hope 618 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: it is good. 619 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: I just my head since the matchup was official, was 620 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: just I think Ohio State's going to blow them out, 621 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: but it very well may not go that way. I 622 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: do think that early in the game you are likely 623 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: to see just a ton of pressure coming at saying. 624 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: I think they want to get him off the spot quick. 625 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: They want to see how uncomfortable they can make him, 626 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: and I think they want to test the old line. 627 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: They want to see up front if Ohio State can 628 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: hold up. So there may be some opportunities for shots 629 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: for saying if the O line can hold up, because 630 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna send the house at say in 631 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: early in the game, not as much just to set 632 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: the tone, but just to kind of experiment and see, Okay, 633 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: what are we in for? What adjustments are we gonna 634 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: have to make? 635 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: I'm really curious to see. 636 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: You know, do you take advantage of Miami's aggressiveness? Does 637 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: Ohio State say, oh, we anticipated you were sending the 638 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: house right, we hit you with a screen that just 639 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: went forty four yards? 640 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 641 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: Like something like that, where really anticipating what the other 642 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: team's gonna do. That could really screw the other team. 643 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: You know, you could really hit a big play, catch 644 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: them in the wrong defense, the wrong look. So that's 645 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: something else to look for. Ever wanted to try an 646 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: Olympic and Paralympic sport, try fencing. It's fast, safe and 647 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: easy to start. Find a beginner class near you at 648 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: us Fencing dot org slash try fencing. That is USA 649 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: Fencing dot org slash try Fencing. 650 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. 651 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: One other thing to think about here, jmart Is you 652 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: look at last year when Ohio State and they were 653 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: essentially what was a wildcard team in the NFL playoffs, 654 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: right like, they played in the first round. They were 655 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: not a team that earned a bye. They played in 656 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: the first round and they smoked a flawed Tennessee team, 657 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: and then they parlayed that into smoking Oregon. They crushed 658 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: Oregon in the Rose Bowl. And so what's interesting to 659 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: me is I'm not saying they're gonna look horrible just 660 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: because they didn't play last week. But it's a much 661 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: different situation here. They got a buy. Miami was the 662 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: team that played last week. And granted Miami didn't look 663 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 3: all world their defense did, but they left a lot 664 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: of points on the field. Their kicking game is atrocious, right, 665 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: it was awful against Texas A and m and they 666 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: won a slugfest. But with Miami playing last week and 667 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: Ohio State not playing last week, much like complete opposite 668 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: scenario for Ohio State year over year. I'm really curious 669 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: how they look early. How does Ohios they look early? 670 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: Do they look like a team who's well rested and man, 671 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: they're just refreshed, or do they look like a team 672 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 3: that's a little sloppy, like we're not quite executing yet 673 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: we haven't played in a little bit. 674 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: Do they look like that? 675 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: You remember how that played out last year? I mean, 676 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: the teams that have buys, there was definitely. 677 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: Some issues for those squads, That's right, Absolutely there were, 678 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: So that's something else to think about too. I'm very 679 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: curious how the Ohio State opens up this thing after 680 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: getting that bye week. 681 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: So can't wait for it. Man, this is gonna be fun. 682 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: What do we get to bowl? 683 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 4: We got the little Cotton Bowl? 684 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: Action. 685 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 4: How high scoring do you think it is? 686 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: Not at all? I think it's in the twenties. Okay, Yeah, 687 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 2: I don't think it's like nothing, But I, like I said, 688 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: I if you really want, if you really want my feeling, 689 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: I feel like Ohio State's in the mid to high 690 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 2: thirties and Miami's sitting at like fourteen. Like I really 691 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: think there's a good chance at an absolute blowout in 692 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: this game. 693 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, well that kind of answers it. I was 694 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: gonna ask, how many points do you think, realistically Miami 695 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 3: would have to score to win this game? Like, what's 696 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: the point total you would feel comfortable saying, all right, 697 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: you've at least got a great chance to win the game. 698 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: It's I think it's minimum twenty four. 699 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I don't think that's crazy at all. I 700 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: can see that for sure. Hey it's Brian No Sesame 701 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: Street helped raise all of us. Now it's our turn. 702 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: Donate this holiday season at sesame dot org because the 703 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: world needs Sesame and Sesame. 704 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: Needs you all right. 705 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 3: Coming up next, We've got a team that I think 706 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 3: is dead inside. 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I'm Brian know. 716 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: We are in for two pros and a cup of Joe. 717 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: The road to Milan runs through Saint Louis see Ilia 718 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: malanin Alyssa lou My Girl era Amber Glenn. It's because 719 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: her name is easy. Amber Glenn. My Girl compete at 720 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth prevagen US Figure Skating Championships that 721 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 3: is January seventh through eleventh. Be there as the twenty 722 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 3: twenty sixth US Olympic figure skating team is named Alive 723 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 3: tickets at us figure Skating dot org. It's my girl. 724 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: Do you know this girl is a very very tall woman, My. 725 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: Girl, Dua Lipa. Well was she again? 726 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: Lorena a very very tall like skyscraping five to seventh, 727 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 3: five nine? 728 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: Is it? 729 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 4: Yeah? Very tall woman over there? That do it running joke. 730 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: It's great. 731 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 4: It was one of the best mins ever. 732 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: All right, so I think, well, sorry, so, uh, this 733 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 3: was a while ago. I was filling in probably for 734 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: Ben Maller, and uh during one of the breaks, like 735 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 3: Lorena out of nowhere, She's like, oh, Dua Lipa is 736 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: a very tall woman, And I'm like, wow, really what 737 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: what were we talking? 738 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: Like? 739 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 4: Six two six five and heels five seven? 740 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 3: She is five eight five eight sorry five eight of. 741 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 2: Three inch or platform heels. 742 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 6: She is a very tall woman, very very tall five 743 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 6: four girl myself. 744 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: That's true. 745 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. 746 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: I get a whole another air department up there. 747 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: It's all relative, all relative, right there, All right. So 748 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jason, we talked about Tampa Bay 749 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 3: for a second. First off, it is so fitting that 750 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 3: this team they don't even control their path to the playoffs. 751 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: An more, with Atlanta winning on Monday night against the Rams, 752 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: not only does Tampa need to win on Saturday, they 753 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: have to beat Carolina. And I thought they'd be in 754 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 3: just doing Nope, no, no, no. Now that Atlanta won 755 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: on Monday night, not only does Tampa need to beat Carolina, 756 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: then they would need Atlanta to lose the next day. 757 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 3: They got to sit there at home. Should they beat Carolina? 758 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 3: Like like crossing their fingers, like, come on, Tyler Shock, 759 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 3: let's go. 760 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 4: Saints? 761 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: Who dad, baby, let's go. They need the Saints to 762 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 3: beat the Falcons to get it. They don't even control 763 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: their paths to the playoffs anymore. 764 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 4: That's insane. 765 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 2: But is that true? 766 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: That's true? Yeah, it's not a winning. 767 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: No, I don't I don't think that's true. It's feds 768 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 3: have completely true. They do not control their paths. 769 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 2: So the Falcons get in. Is that what you're saying? 770 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 4: No, no, no, falcons have no chance. 771 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's I thought you were talking about that. 772 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: That's where I was like, wait, I'm pretty sure the 773 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: Falcons are eliminated. 774 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 3: Yeah they are, they are, But what happened is, yeah, 775 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 3: if Carolina, sorry, if Tampa wins and Atlanta wins those 776 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: there's a three team you know, like tie All those 777 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 3: teams are eight and nine, and then somehow Carolina would 778 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 3: win the tie breaker. 779 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: They would go souch. 780 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: Tampa has to win on Saturday, and then they needed 781 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: Atlanta to lose. If if Atlanta wins, it's a three 782 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: way tie and Tampa is out. Wouldn't that be the 783 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: most Tampa thing ever? This season, they somehow find a way. 784 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 3: They they got after losing seven of eight, they somehow 785 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 3: beat Carolina and then Atlanta wins and they Tampa still 786 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: doesn't make it into the playoffs. 787 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: Man, man, there was a time when Baker was like 788 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 2: Baker the MVP. He was sweet playing Brave five. Yeah, 789 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: he's playing Gray. 790 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 791 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: Everything was rolling, and now we're at this spot. Obviously, 792 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: they lost Evans for a big part of the season. 793 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: He's come back and he's played pretty well in the 794 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: last two weeks. And I mean early they were ravaged 795 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: with injuries, but they were still kind of hanging on. 796 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: Then they lost Bucky Irving or Shaw White didn't come 797 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: in and do two much for them there. But like 798 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 2: they've just and that insane game that they found a 799 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: way to lose a couple of weeks ago. 800 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 4: Again they went ahead. 801 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was an awful one. 802 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 5: I just. 803 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 2: It's just another one of those teams. It's not even 804 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: a trusting It's like I don't trust them in any way, 805 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: shape or form. I know you said dead man walking, 806 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: I mean that division. I'm just like, I don't know. 807 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: From moment to moment. I feel like of those teams, 808 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: Carolina is the one that showed me the most this season. 809 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, like I don't know, Tampa should not be 810 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: in this position. They really shouldn't not. They shouldn't be 811 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: based on what we saw early, the fact that you're 812 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: talking about hitting a wall, but this hitting a bunch 813 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: of rookies hitting a wall. I know, this is just 814 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: a team that's just like out of gas entirely. That's right. 815 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: They were six and two, Yeah, now they're seven and 816 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: nine football team, and I think they're just buckling under 817 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: the weight of losing. You know, they've lost seven of 818 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 3: eight and it is just it's driving them down into 819 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 3: the ground and they they're in this ditch and they 820 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 3: can't like pull themselves out of it. I love Carolina 821 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 3: in this spot, man. I think it's gonna be my 822 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 3: bet of the year. I love Carolina to win this game, 823 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 3: all right. J Martin is steering the ship an hour two. 824 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: Let's go.