WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How The Hum Works 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.280 M Hey everybody, it's your old pal Josh. And for 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:06.960 this week's s Y s K Selects, I've chosen How 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.959 the Hum Works came out back in December of two 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.640 thousand fourteen, and it is probably the saddest most aggravating 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.120 affliction I can think of, next to Morgellons, because people 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.160 don't believe you when you have this thing. Uh. It's 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.920 pretty interesting episode if you ask me. It's got everything. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.360 Uh that X Files makes an appearance, and so does 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.520 Vocal Fry before our Vocal Fry episode ever came out. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:41.879 So I hope you enjoy it. Bon Chawn's welcome to 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:51.440 Stuff You Should Know from How Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.200 I'm welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.680 Chuck Bryant, and I would say it's stuff you should know, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.400 but it's not because I haven't said Jerry, and now 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:09.520 I did, so this is sufficient. Yes, are people going 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.560 crazy yet? I don't know. There's probably some people who 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.800 started going crazy in the moment they hit play. Yeah, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:21.080 that's Chuck's version of the hum. Yeah, capital T, capital H. Yeah. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.000 So the hum you just did it makes sense. It's 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.720 a hum. But apparently like if you'd listen, I don't. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.319 I wonder if you can hear the same thing I'm 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.120 hearing because you're hearing it in your head. But there's 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.760 like a gravelly quality to it, the vocal fry. Okay, 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.319 if you want to call it that, I say gravelly, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.080 but it's not. It wasn't constant. The gravelly thing gave 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.800 it texture and it was kind of broken up a 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.840 little bit. That is more akin to the hum than 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:54.880 the unbroken part that was going throughout. So apparently, while 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.440 this is called the hum, and we should eventually explain 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.000 what we're talking about, it's not the casical definition of 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.320 a hum that people here, right, It's not it's it's 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.240 it's like a diesel truck idoling engine idling is with 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.320 a classic description of it, Yeah, the um. That term 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.359 vocal fry is one of those you ever hear or 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.520 learn of a new expression or a thing and they've 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.680 never heard of, and then you see it everywhere. That 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.600 is called the bottom minehuff phenomenon. And that's happening to 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.800 me with vocal fry. Where did you hear that? I 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.920 can't remember where I initially heard it, but it's a 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.519 thing now that they say, um, like Kim Kardashian is 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.359 who they always blame. It's a vocal affectation that's supposedly 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.720 young women are using now where they go into that 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:42.480 lower tone, um, that gravelly tone on certain like the 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.079 ends of sentences. Usually I know you, I heard that too, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.120 and that supposedly keeps them from being promoted at work 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.560 or something. Yeah. Yeah, And it's the female equivalent of 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.320 the guys who speak up yeah, or all the valley 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.480 girl thing, which is up speak, like the valley girls 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.760 talking like that. But now it's um. You know, he 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.760 was a nice guy, but I really wasn't sure what 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:07.200 his motivation was. Oh okay, yeah, that's a great impression. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.240 That's because it was dead on. Yeah. And I totally 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.400 got that you had pigtails just now. Yeah. I was 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.360 talking Emily about it the day. She was like, do 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.680 I do that? It's like, now, you don't do that? No, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.600 you don't. I just did that, didn't I a little bit? 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.800 But you you were doing a different voice, so it 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.960 makes sense. Yeah. Anyway, I can't escape it. Now. It's 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.000 like every other day since I've heard it, I've seen 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.280 something about vocal fry And have you noticed people with 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.760 vocal frymore all the time. Okay, yeah, it's annoying, Like 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.480 what you're describing now has really nothing to do with 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.400 the hum, but it actually does have a lot in 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.960 common with the hum, and that kind of people who 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:48.080 hear the hum um tended to be able to focus 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.880 in on it more and more easily the more that 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.200 they're exposed to it, which is the opposite of what 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.720 should happen to a noise that really is inconsequential in 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.120 the environment. That's so what we're talking about here, Chuck, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.560 is the hum with a capital H. That's right. What 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.080 what is it? Well, it is um. It is a sound, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:14.040 a mysterious sound that is heard in places around the 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:20.000 world by about two percent of the local population. UM. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.520 It is a low frequent and we're going to get 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.080 into the frequencies and all that, but let's just call 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.800 it a low frequency rumbling right now. It's a drone. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.599 It's a vibration described sometimes as it sounds like it's 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.760 coming from nowhere or inside my own head. Um. And 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.839 it is. There are places all around the world where, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.920 like I said, a very small population of people experience 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.680 this hum, and depending on where you are, they will 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.000 name it that hume, like the Auckland hume. The winds 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:54.120 are hum, the Bristol hume, Yeah, the Taos hum and um. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.160 It's been described, you know, going back to the eighteen hundreds. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.920 People have talked about it in literally sure, but really 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.880 in the nineteen fifties, sixties and seventies and the modern 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.800 world is when people have started describing hearing this thing 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.440 that drives them batty basically. And one of the ways 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.880 that it drives them batty is they'll say do you 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.200 hear that? And everyone else in the room will say no. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.039 The other of people's at yeah, and they'll be like, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.600 how do you what do you mean you don't hear that? 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.080 And everybody else in the room goes, okay, right, maybe 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.520 you're a little wacky. It's generally at night. It's worse 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.760 at night, for sure, and generally in more rural areas, um, 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.520 which makes sense because it's not as much noise pollution, 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.200 I think exactly. Yeah. Um. It also is tends to 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.800 be worse indoors, so at night, which is a little weird. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:49.159 Indoors means that you don't get much sleep because this 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.960 is something that you can't not focus on. People who 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.640 suffer from the hum tend to say that it dominates 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.800 the soundscape. It's not something they can just tune out. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.200 It's not something that they're getting used to. And again, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.479 the more the more they're exposed to it, the easier 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.400 they say it is to tune into it and I 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.880 guess become cognizant of it yet again, So imagine about it. Yeah, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.839 and imagine being plagued by a sound that does this 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.200 to you and that everyone else says is not real 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.480 because they don't hear it. Yeah, and it's been I mean, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.640 we'll get into the reasons that it maybe or may 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.920 not be happening, but it's been uh passed off as 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:35.920 mass hysteria UM or mass delusion UM from everything from 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:42.000 that to like government conspiracy to uh legitimate legitimate noise, 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.760 whether or not it's acoustic or electromagnetic. And that's part 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.560 of the problem is is there one um? Right? There 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.680 are lots of harms. Is there no harm? You know, 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.000 your your skeptics will say there is no harm. It's 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.360 tentatives or it's something like that UM or some other 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:06.400 inner ear noise like otto acoustic noise UM. So who knows, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.480 but that's there there are two ways that the hum. Okay, 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.040 so again, let's let's restate this and let's put ourselves 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.679 in the position of the outsider, because I don't experience 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.000 the hum, so I am it ounced. I don't either 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.000 knock on wood because the more I researched it some 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.840 more I'm like, oh God, I hope I never do well. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.920 We we left out one um one quality of it 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.880 that that is common around the world. And when we 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:32.440 say around the world, it tends to be curiously concentrated 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.760 in the West, UM and in the euro I didn't 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.240 notice that euro ancestry West. Yeah, I didn't really see 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.000 anything about any countries in the East. If you look 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.960 at UM, if you look at there is a guy 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:51.240 who runs a m Glenn McPherson. Yes, Glenn McPherson runs 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.840 something called the World HUM Map and Database. And we 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.920 ran into Glenn mc fherson. Before we get too far, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.520 we should give a huge shout out to Jared Keller 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.160 over at Mike who wrote this amazing article called a 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.600 mysterious sound is driving people insane and nobody knows what's 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:10.080 causing it. Totally worth reading UM. And he talks about 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.640 a guy named Glenn McPherson who's a professor in uh 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.960 British Columbia, and he set up a website called the 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.280 World HUM Map and Database, and so anybody who hears 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.040 the HUM can go and fill out a questionnaire and 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.400 then it takes that data and puts a dot on 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.040 the map, and you can hover over the dot and 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.760 get the data. Right if you look at it, it's 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:35.160 just the United States, Great Britain, your Western Europe, Canada, 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.360 South Africa. It's pretty it's it's unusual that there's nothing 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.679 in Africa except South Africa. Um, and it's just in 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:48.840 these European ancestry western countries. Right. On the one hand, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.239 you could say, well, that's because this is an English 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:58.000 language database, and so of course somebody whose native languages 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.240 like Swahili isn't gonna go into this. And I have 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.720 no idea what I'm typing here, but yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.440 So that's one explanation. There are other explanations too, and 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.839 now we arrive at one of them. We're going back 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.920 on the outside because you don't hear the hump. I 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.920 don't hear the hump. And let's say that we're your 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.520 nose and throat guys, and somebody comes to us and says, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:21.200 I'm going crazy, Like I'm seriously contemplating suicide because this 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.760 HUM is keeping me up at night. I haven't slept 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:28.240 at weeks. I'm irritable, i have headaches, nosebleeds, I'm nauseated 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.800 all the time. These are all common symptoms of HUM sufferers. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.280 You're you're going to think one of two things as 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:41.439 a doctor a physician. One is tonitus, yeah, and then 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:45.000 the other one is you're crazy that you're you're driving 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.160 yourself crazy. Um. Both of them can kind of be 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.400 explained away, and they are explained away by this guy 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.880 named David Demming, and he is a geoscientist from University 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.800 of Oklahoma, and he wrote what is probably the definitive 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.120 study on the harm so far back in two thousand four. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.320 That's right, so Demming apparently if you look at his research, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.440 there is another theory. Uh. And this is where the U. S. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:16.840 Government comes into play, because there's a couple of um. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.920 There's a couple of theories revolving around the US military 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.280 and whether or not they are causing this UM. One 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:29.160 is with their High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program h 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.240 a a ARP in Alaska, and they transmit RF signals 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:38.000 into the HONO sphere. And very well, should we go 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.040 ahead and start talking about the frequency ranges VLF and 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:46.640 e l F. VLF is very low frequency and those 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.600 are waves at point one hurts and the other one 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:56.040 is e l F. Right, is there extremely low frequencies 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.280 and they're in the range of UM the same amount 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.200 of hurts, but their wavelength is up to like a 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.920 hundred thousand meters. Right, that's an extremely long wavelength, that's right. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.760 And um, people who think, you know, they call them 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:13.080 HUM investigators. Uh, they believe pretty much that it is 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:18.600 VLF and e l F tones um that are driving 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.720 these people crazy. And those tones can drive you crazy. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.760 They do have adverse effects on the body. Um. You 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.679 know you you probably heard it about a lot when 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.840 it comes to like cell phone radiation that kind of thing. Yeah. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.280 But Um, whether or not e l F and VLF 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.600 is or are the HUM is what's a matter of 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.640 much debate. It is a matter of debate because and 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.400 it's also kind of a matter of faith because what 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.080 you're talking about there with UM E l F and 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:53.160 vlf frequencies is uh tones, those are radio waves, and 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.800 radio is part of the electromagnetic spec spectrum. Right, Yeah, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.920 so it has been shown at very very high frequencies, 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:07.240 humans can detect electro magnetics sound. We take it as sound, 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.160 which is weird because it's not supposed to happen like that, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.360 But that's how we experience it. It's not like at 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.720 a high frequency we suddenly see it. We hear it. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:20.280 And if you are familiar with the UM comment six 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.720 seven that the European Space Agency recently landed on, which 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:29.160 is crazy, that comment was found to emit a an 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:34.120 electro magnetic clicking sound, which is how we experience electro 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.120 magnets or electromagnetic sound at a certain frequency. And so 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.160 because it's a clicking sound, it's not a hum at all. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.040 Some people are saying, well, that doesn't make any sense. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.920 This is a hum. It doesn't if we can hear it, 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.800 it's it's it doesn't sound like an idoling diesel engine. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.040 It sounds like a clicking sound or something like that. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.719 And then what's more, what this guy is saying is 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.760 that if it's a very low frequency or extremely low frequency, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.199 that's the opposite of how we hear electromagnetic radiation. We 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.880 hear at a very high frequency, not a very low frequency, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.520 so which one is it? So, yes, it's still a 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.360 huge matter of debate even as to whether the HUM. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.880 First of all, if it does exist, if it's a 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.480 single source, single source, and then um, if it is 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.559 a single source or any kind of source, is it 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.880 electromagnetic or is it acoustic? And we'll unpack the difference 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:40.920 between those things right after this. So as whether or 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.760 not the HUM exists. The Canadian government actually part of 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.800 the problem is it's hard to get research done on 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.760 this because very small number of people experience it, and 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.880 a lot of them are called crackpots. Yeah, so it's 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.439 tough to get funding for research. But luckily there's a 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.760 country called Canada that will fund things like this. And 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.240 uh Dr Colin novak Um spent a year listening to 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.280 the windsor hom in Ontario and what they found was 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.760 the HUM is real. And they traced the source in 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.600 that case too UM on the Michigan side of the 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:19.200 Detroit River UM and basically a steel plant on Zug Island. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.640 Then that sounds like an industrial plant ially does, and 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.360 it supposedly generates a lot of VLF waves UM when 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:31.200 they're operating. So in this instance, at least the hum 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.720 was a real thing, and they found out it was 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.720 a tone created from basically an industrial plant, right, So 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:42.560 they apparently took steps to cut down on whatever energy 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.000 it was emitting. Yeah, they turned off the hum machine 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:49.280 right exactly. And all of a sudden, Um, some people said, Hey, 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.160 that worked, a lot of people said that did absolutely nothing. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.800 The Hum's still out there. And then the most people said, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.880 I still don't know what you're talking about. So that 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.880 that and that wasn't actually the first time government has 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:05.040 looked into the hum. In Taos, New Mexico, there's something 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.200 called the Taos Hum and apparently, uh, somebody wrote in 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.840 to complain about it to a local newspaper, and all 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.560 of a sudden, like hundreds more people said, yes, I 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.640 hear the same thing. I've been hearing the same thing 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.040 for years. What is going on? And enough of enough 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.680 people said something in New Mexico that it prompted an 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.560 investigation by the University of New Mexico and Sandy A Labs, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.320 which I think is like a government affiliated kind of Um. Well, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.960 it's a neat research lab. They do all sorts of 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.400 cool clandestine stuff. Nice right, um, and very much so. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.360 And actually the X Files mentioned the hum in an 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.480 episode called Drive Yeah. Interesting, they talk about it. There 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.040 was a couple of characters had to constantly moved westward 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.160 or else they would suffer from the pressure of this 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.680 hum that no one else could hear. Let me guess, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.360 Mulder believe Scully did not exactly how did you saw 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.000 that one? No? I didn't, but you know, so um 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.800 they looked into the Taos hum and they could never 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.240 figure out what it was, so I think they kind 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.280 of wrote it off as either mass delusion or a 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.080 bunch of people had tenitas or what have you. Which 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.840 is again, that's the that's the easy that's the easy answer, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.480 like you have tonitas. The problem is if if a 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.960 prison is tonitas, they the sound is internal, like they remember, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.360 there's like an idea that the and isn't it a 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.640 high pitch ringing? Yes? Usually it can. It can vary 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.840 in in um and pitch, but for the most part 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:37.080 it's you can tell it's internal with the hum. Everyone 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.520 who experiences the hume says, no, this is external, and 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.160 it's it's they're so convinced it's external that they'll go 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.880 out at night when it's worse and try to find 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.080 the source of it. They'll drive around their city or 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.320 their neighborhood or walk around and look for what it 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.520 is that's driving them crazy and they'll never find it, 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.760 or they'll turn off the power of their house, or 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.840 I mean, there's all sorts of extreme UM and of 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.240 course it's all like anecdotal, but people that are driven 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.080 to suicide or this one guy who intentionally deafened himself 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.520 with a chainsaw, which I'm not sure how you do. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:16.119 I guess the chasteria from UM and possibly even murder, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.879 which we'll get to in a bit, which is pretty interesting. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:24.480 But the point is that it's not just something that's 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.320 just bugging people like it. It is having the hum. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.320 There are people all over the world that don't know 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.200 each other, that have never met that UM are suffering 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.920 from something that they hear that other people can't hear 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.520 in concentrated areas. Yeah, and then and that's affecting their 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.280 quality of life. And UM, I don't know if I 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.200 ever finished the sentence, which is weird. That means I'm 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.560 really interested in something, Okay, But um, did we say 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.719 or did I say that people who suffer from the 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.560 hum tend to be in their fifties and older. Yeah, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.720 that's one of the markers between like fifty and seventy. Okay, 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.320 So there's a this is something in the favor of 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.720 acoustic sound. Um. So, acoustic sound is a compression wave 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.760 and it's something that's carried through and propagates through media. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.040 So um, there it's a vibration in the air. Whereas 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:22.879 an electromagnetics wave comes from an electrical or a magnetic 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.760 or both source. This is like the vibe of vibration. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.720 It's a sound wave. That's that's an acoustic wave. Right. So, um, 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.920 as we age, say you get to around fifty years 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:38.280 of age, your ability to hear high frequency and mid 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:44.879 frequency acoustic sound diminishes. Your low frequency capabilities go undiminished. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.639 So it's not like they increase, but comparatively speaking, you 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.400 get better at hearing low frequencies around age fifty. Interesting. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.920 So what some people think is that if it is electromagnetic, 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.200 then there are some people out there who are capable 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:05.960 of hearing electromagnetic waves while the rest of us can't 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.560 and they're being driven crazy by some source that we 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:15.200 have yet to identify. Um or if it's acoustic, that 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.320 there are some people out there who are superheroes of 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.240 low frequency sound, which would also kind of um do 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.359 away with another diagnosis that a lot of doctors give people, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.080 which is hyper accus us, which to me is worth 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.000 a whole other podcasts. It's another people kill themselves over 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.760 this heightened hyper hearing to where like this, the rustle 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.480 of clothes is unbearable. Man. The thing is is, if 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.760 you have hyper accused us, it's not just going to 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.639 be some harm that you hear and everything else is normal, 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:50.040 which is what hum suffers experience. You would hear everything 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.520 on this grand scale. You'd be like Spider Man exactly. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.359 So what they think is that there are people who 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.320 UM are predisposed to hearing low frequency sounds way better 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:03.520 than other people, and that it comes as their higher 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.880 and mid frequency capabilities diminished with age. Right, But again, 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.600 what are they hearing? Well? That's right, UM. I mentioned 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.720 earlier the h A A r P program that the 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.240 US government military is doing in Alaska. The other one 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:23.320 that I teased UM is the TACAMO, the Take Charge 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.320 and Move Out system. In the nineteen sixties, U. S. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:31.040 Navy basically adopted this program to be able to communicate 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:36.400 with submarines, long range bombers, UM ballistic missiles during nuclear war, 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.160 and they use very low frequency radio waves to do so. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:45.040 And you know, it's a real thing, but is it 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.679 the hum um? Other conspiracy theorists will say that the 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.040 US government is also using these things to target individuals 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.720 UM and of course that's you know, you want to say, 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.679 that's probably bunk, but you never know. You know, what 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.080 the cool irony is that Jared Keller points out is 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.560 that if the HUM is electromagnetic in nature, tinfoil hat, 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.040 an aluminum foil hat would actually work because it blocks 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:13.280 out about I think write but like just a thin 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:18.960 layer of aluminum can block out like of electromagnetic waves. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:24.960 So that's pretty ironic that it might actually work, although 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.080 I don't I haven't heard whether that helps people with 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:31.280 the HUM if they put on a tinfoil hat, if 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.880 that would help or not, or if it has um. 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.880 But speaking of tacomo uh, if you read David Demming's 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:42.160 UM journal article, it's called the HUM an anomalous sound 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.880 heard around the World. And there is a journal called 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:48.280 the Journal of Scientific Exploration, which is a pure viewed 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:52.159 scientific journal that accepts articles on things on the fringe 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:57.320 of science, which the home most decidedly is UM. David 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.920 demon gets into Tacomo and he basically says, this is 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.520 a secret government program. So obviously we can't get any 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.800 real answers. We don't know how often it works or 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.560 how often they're transmitting or anything, but we do know 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.600 it is a real thing. And he correlates some dates 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.000 when there's like upgrades to the system and then all 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.080 of a sudden in this one area around the same 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.920 time there's the Kokomo Indiana Hume starts UM. So he 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.120 he does a good job of correlating, and I think 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.040 that's kind of what he settles on. He believes that 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:30.560 it's probably the TACAMO program, that this very low frequency 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:37.680 transmission two submarines underwater from airplanes above is being propagated 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.679 around the world, and that would suggest that it's a 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:45.040 global source. That it's just some people can hear these 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.280 radio waves that you're not supposed to be able to hear. Yeah, 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:54.399 or it's multiple sources combined, like a combined effect, like 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.320 if you live near an industrial plant that has a 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.439 machine that's making the sound that maybe certain people are 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.520 retuned to or not. I don't know, well, That's another 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:08.040 characteristic is that it's mostly experienced in the country. But see, 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.520 I just chalked that up to noise pollution being reduced. Yeah, 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:13.679 Like when I worked at a convenient store in the 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:17.560 midnight shift the um. When I worked during the day, 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.480 I would not notice anything. But when I worked up 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.080 there at night at three am, I would hear the 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:25.960 buzzing of the fluorescent lights and it would drive me crazy. Uh, 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:28.000 you know, I would turn them off and people would 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:32.200 think we're closed. So you the thing is, you eventually 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.000 stopped hearing that, right well, when I left work. That's 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:41.240 called habituation. So habituation means that you are capable of 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:43.960 so like you'd focus on these things the whole time 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.840 you were there. Well yeah, in the middle, I wouldn't 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:49.840 focus on it, but I would notice. I'd be reading 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.960 a book and I would just hear that that sound, 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:54.800 you know, But I never noticed it during the day 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.719 when the lights were on. But so like when you 0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:00.320 didn't hear it, that's habituation. Where like your your supposed 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:04.240