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Speaker 1: Hello, Seattle and surrounding Greater Seattle area. We love you.

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Speaker 1: That's why we come to see you every January, and

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Speaker 1: we're doing that again this year coming up yep, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: January six, We're going to be at the More Theater

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Speaker 1: and you can get tickets and info by going to

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Speaker 1: the box office of the Paramount Theater, who is apparently

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Speaker 1: selling tickets to our show at the More Theater to

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Speaker 1: get around a lot of those online fees. That's right.

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Speaker 1: So we'd love to see you there. We have rubbed

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Speaker 1: our stank all over that theater and we want your

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Speaker 1: stank on that theater as well. Yep, we'll see you

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Speaker 1: guys in January. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles

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Speaker 1: if you choke, Brian over there there, Jerry over there,

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Speaker 1: and this is Stuff you Should Know. Early Christmas a dish. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're kicking it off early like the rest of the

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Speaker 1: retail world, do you, uh yeah? Man. This year you

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Speaker 1: could find Halloween Thanksgiving and Christmas stuff in stores at

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Speaker 1: the same time, like it was just the most normal

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Speaker 1: thing in the world. But, um, you don't follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, and you should. I'm not on Twitter. Well

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You should get on Twitter to

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Speaker 1: follow me. But at seven thirty in the morning on

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Speaker 1: November one, the day after Halloween, I tweeted Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of hate back for it. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: you people like that, Yeah, pretty much just troll I got. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that was my plug for Twitter. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: here we go. So, uh, let's see back, Chuck. You

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Speaker 1: were twelve, okay, I was seven. Um, you didn't have

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Speaker 1: a cabbage patch kid, did you. Well, there's just right

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Speaker 1: there if you really want to know. I think you've

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Speaker 1: told it before, but let's have it. Well, we bought

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Speaker 1: my sister one of the very first little people is

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Speaker 1: what they were called before they were cabbage patch kids

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Speaker 1: and Helen Georgia when they were handmade by Xavier Roberts,

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Speaker 1: who I recently learned stole that idea from a woman

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Speaker 1: and uh it took it as his own and made

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars off of her idea. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I wanted to maybe we'll do a short stuff about that.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do a full length episode. But we

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Speaker 1: I mean, we definitely talked about that because I think

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Speaker 1: we have talked about like must have toys of the past,

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Speaker 1: and and maybe last year's or the year before Christmas edition. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we had she got this doll. Its name was

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Speaker 1: Chuck Um, which was kind of funny because that's my name.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it was a big deal. I think it

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Speaker 1: was like the number seventy something or eighty something made

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Speaker 1: and now it's worth a lot of money. Does she

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Speaker 1: still have it? Oh? That's great, Um. And we'll fish

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Speaker 1: with Cabbage Patch Kids and then I'll take issue with you.

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Speaker 1: So go ahead, Okay, I know what you're gonna take

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Speaker 1: issue with. Oh I don't know if you do know,

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Speaker 1: let me so, let me, let me. Let me start.

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Speaker 1: So back in Cabbage Patch Kids were like the must

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Speaker 1: have toy of the Christmas season, and from what I

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Speaker 1: can tell, they were the first must have Christmas toy. Ever.

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Speaker 1: Now that's not to say there weren't extraordinarily popular toys

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Speaker 1: at around Christmas time before Star Wars very famously offered

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Speaker 1: their Early Birds Certificate package, which was basically an empty

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Speaker 1: One of the great great marketing gems of all time.

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Speaker 1: So that was a thing all the way back in two.

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Speaker 1: Mr potato Head was a hot toy that year. Robert

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Speaker 1: Robert the Robot had T shirts in the fifties. Didn't

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Speaker 1: These were big deal toys. But my premise is this,

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Speaker 1: I'll take the hit if it's wrong. But that in

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Speaker 1: There wasn't such a thing as the must have toy

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Speaker 1: I don't know forty million Star Wars toys at that

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Speaker 1: even buy these empty box kits on eBay? Now? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's all enlisted for Bucks. I'm not at

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Speaker 1: want to point out that the biggest, most in demand

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Speaker 1: toy of my young life was the Atari pac Man cartridge. Boy,

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Speaker 1: that's sold seven million cartridges. Okay, great, Great, the numbers

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Speaker 1: You can toss big numbers out all day long. But

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. For that empty box of

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Speaker 1: Star Wars for the Atari pac Man cartridge, did a

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Speaker 1: get their hands on those things turned violent? Or before

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Speaker 1: you answer, in addition to that, did a department store

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Speaker 1: well let's just move on from this the cabbage Patch

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Speaker 1: cabbage Patch kids if not worthy first, which they were?

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Speaker 1: Did you have Yeah? Yeah, Webberdno, you had a cabbage

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Speaker 1: cabbage Patch kid. What I've I've always broken the mold chuck. Well, sure, no,

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Speaker 1: so I get it. But that's why I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it must have Christmas toy would be one

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Speaker 1: to bed, like a cabbage Patch kid with a mohawk. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: um right, well that was a big thing. Like there

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Speaker 1: ways that that was generated was by UM, I think Coliko,

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Speaker 1: this has been carried on as a tradition ever since then,

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Speaker 1: well when my friends stock behind me and shot me

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Speaker 1: continues on like I haven't read about any violence from

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Speaker 1: hatch a Moles, but from two thousand and sixteen to

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Speaker 1: two eighteen. They were the if not one of the

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Speaker 1: there and leave it there, and then it hatches into

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Speaker 1: a garbage toy. Oh. So my experience is that it's

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Speaker 1: they're they're pretty, They're good. Oh yeah, yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: you like your hatch the mole? Yeah? Are you talking?

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Speaker 1: Is it like animatronic? Huh? Is it animatronic? I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about hatch the moles. Yeah, it's it's so okay. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the dish. I just my

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, this isn't the Are we talking about two

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Speaker 1: different things. This is the thing you put in water. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: about some melts. This is like an animatronic thing that

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Speaker 1: teach it and train it and raise it and give

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Speaker 1: it attention everything. It's a bit like the tamagochi but

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Speaker 1: thinking of the thing that you It's an egg that

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Speaker 1: If you have a toy that there's a limited amount of,

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Speaker 1: that is when you're gonna find people trampling each other

426
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Speaker 1: to get there, because people are motivated by fear. And

427
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: if you know that a toy is a must have

428
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: and there aren't many of them and they're going on

429
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: sale at a certain time, it is frightening what a parent,

430
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: some parents might do to secure that toy. Yes, so

431
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: this is finally we've reached the key ingredient. Right, You've

432
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: got lists of toys that are promoted and advertising and

433
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 1: maybe even show up with their own articles in the media.

434
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Speaker 1: Then you have the fact that we're already kind of

435
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: primed to to buy because it's the Aliday season. We're

436
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: in a good mood. But when you add that scarcity marketing,

437
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: it ramps it up to a totally different level. And

438
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: when you have a must have toy that is hard

439
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: to find, like you said, people will do very crazy, violent,

440
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: mean stuff to get it. And there's a lot of

441
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: reasons why even if you're not willing to like throw

442
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: an elbow to get a toy, you might still be

443
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: willing to camp out at four am waiting for you know,

444
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour retailer to restock UM their their

445
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: supply of this so you can buy it. That's unusual

446
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: behavior and the reason why it all comes down to

447
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: scarcity marketing and the idea that we have a fear

448
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: of missing out, a fear of social embarrassment, of fear

449
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: of our kids not loving us as much as they

450
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: could had we gotten them this toy, and that all

451
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: of these things, the scarcity marketing is the real driver

452
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: that kind of hyper charges must have toy frenzy. Yeah,

453
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, just toys. You've seen everything

454
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: from UM. You make a great point about Peppi Van

455
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: Winkle whiskey. Oh, I should say that's from marketing Land.

456
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: A guy named Jacob bods Gud wrote an article on

457
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: marketing Land where he cited that and the Disney Vault

458
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: is really good examples. Yeah, Disney Vault, it's another great one. Um.

459
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: They were very famous for not just saying like here's

460
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: all the movies we've ever made that you can buy

461
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: on VHS, all on one big package. They would release

462
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: them every every now and then, and you know, you

463
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: had a limited time to get them. And I wasn't

464
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: really hipped all this, but my dad and his wife

465
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: were way into the Disney stuff, and you know, they

466
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: were adamant about making sure they filled out the entire

467
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: collection and really kept up with when they were going

468
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: to be released. And what a big deal that was. Yeah,

469
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: that was a big one. And um Bod's Guard makes

470
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: the point like by making them limited and available also

471
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: only for a limited time, with years sometimes a decade

472
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Speaker 1: in between times when you can buy these things, it

473
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: creates this like frenzy to go buy them, and it

474
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: also makes them like a treasured part of that person's home,

475
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, And you can also

476
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: fake out the public a little bit and mislead them

477
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: on the scarcity like you might have a lot of

478
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: the stuff and just kind of lead the public to

479
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: believe like now you better go get one right now

480
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: because they may not be around next week. Yeah. The

481
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: people who made Hatch a Moles spin Master, Um, Hatch

482
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: the Moles were really hard to find and I think

483
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: two thousands, sixteen, seventeen and eighteen UM, and spin Master

484
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: was basically accused of purposefully using scarcity marketing. And for

485
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: their part, they said, hey, we were totally caught off

486
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: guard three years in a row by the um you

487
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: know the popularity of Hatch the Moles, and other people

488
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: were like, that's that's b s. You can totally ramp

489
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: up production pretty fast. Um. Another must have toy was

490
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: finger links. Remember them from like last year or the

491
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: year before. They were like little monkeys or slaw or

492
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: dragons or whatever that would hang on to your finger.

493
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: And they were little finger sized robots that would like

494
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: blink and blow kisses and do all sorts of cute stuff.

495
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: They weren't they were cute instead of uncanny because they

496
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: weren't the words finger sized robots together so right, they

497
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: would cut your throat while you slept. Um, But they

498
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: they were they were caught unaware. Even though they really

499
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: tried it hard to make them hit through social media,

500
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: they were still surprised when it actually happened. But they

501
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: ramped up production. They brought a third factory in China online.

502
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: They went from shipping via cargo boat to air transport

503
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: to get supplies here faster, and they were able to

504
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: ramp up and and meet demand pretty quickly. So the

505
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: idea that Hatch themill just couldn't possibly do that really

506
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: smelled to a lot of people like they were purposefully

507
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: using scarcity marketing. Yeah. Scarcity, I mean, it's an interesting

508
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: concept because you see it everywhere. You know, they have

509
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: restaurants that, you know, here in Atlanta, Home and Finch

510
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: had the Holm and Burger that like one day a week,

511
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: like we'll sell a hundred of them starting at ten

512
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: pm on this night, and then everyone's like, oh my god,

513
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: what is in that burger? People would line up the block. Yeah.

514
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: Or this is a nice little tidbit here that you

515
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: dug up about supermarket experiments. Yeah, that's from an article

516
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: from market Watch by Mark Elwood on that one. It's amazing.

517
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Even putting up a sign for soup that says limit

518
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: twelve per person will make people be like, oh, I

519
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: should I should probably buy twelve of these for whatever reason.

520
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: Campbells might they might stop making their chicken noodle soup

521
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: right or in this case, it was soup that was

522
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: on sale, so who knows what the price is going

523
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: to go back to? You know, well, that's true. So um.

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00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: One of the other things that scarcity produces is this

525
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: idea that there haves and have nots. Right, So if

526
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: the idea that you're fearful of missing out or fearful

527
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: of your kid not loving you isn't enough, there's a

528
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: whole other, um cognitive bias of of being a have not,

529
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: of being left on the cold, which I guess is

530
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: a fear of missing out. But there's also the benefit

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Speaker 1: of being a have where if you're talking about like

532
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: a finger link, which is a fifteen dollar toy, but

533
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: people were crazy for those things that either last year

534
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: or the year before, and like just about anybody can

535
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: afford this fifteen dollar toy. So even if you're like

536
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: I have not throughout the year, you're down on your luck,

537
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: maybe you're unemployed or you're unemployed, Um, things just aren't

538
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: going your way. You could still camp out and wait

539
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: for that late night restocking of finger links and get

540
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: your kid that toy, and for that time you are

541
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: a have and maybe even somebody with a much higher

542
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: social status than you couldn't get that finger link, which

543
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: makes it all the more sweet. And then let's also

544
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: not forget. Like we said, this is during the holiday season,

545
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: so emotions like count extra So to be a have

546
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: when you're normally not during the holiday season because you

547
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: gotta must have toy is exponentially increased. Yeah, it's a

548
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: big deal, um, because it's it. Even if it's just

549
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: emotionally equal for a brief period of time, it's it

550
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: can be a big deal for somebody. Um, I'd say

551
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: we take our final break here here, and then we

552
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: come back and talk about the worst people toy flippers

553
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: right after this. All right, so I set up the

554
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: worst people are toy flippers. Obviously there's a lot of really,

555
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: really bad people in the world. And I'm being what hyperbolic,

556
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: but I do think somewhat the idea of buying targeting

557
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: and buying a lot of must have toys to sell

558
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: later for profit on eBay makes you a pretty rotten person. Yeah,

559
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and lay that judgment down some

560
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: people do. I reserve judgment for the ones who do

561
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: it professionally. I think if you are a person who

562
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: is just trying to augment your um, your own like

563
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: holiday expenses and uh you are foreseeing a lack of

564
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: supply ahead of time, I say more power to you. Yeah,

565
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm not into it. I feel the same way about

566
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: ticket scalpers. Yeah, it's exactly. I mean it's the same

567
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: thing basically. Yeah, it's it's buying up a bunch of things. Uh.

568
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes and this is completely gross and awful. Using bots. Yeah,

569
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: that's the pits to especially for concert tickets, like when

570
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: bots buy up all the best concert tickets, especially our tickets. Yeah, exactly,

571
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: I think anybody uses bots on ours? Well probably not,

572
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: but um, actually, stuff you should know is is we've

573
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: seen very few bad examples of people trying to overcharge

574
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: for a sold out show. More times than not, it's

575
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: a fellow listener that's like, hey, just come along, you

576
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: can sit next to me for face value, or I

577
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: don't even give it to you. Yeah, that happens quite

578
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: a bit. And yeah, I mean there's only been a

579
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: couple where somebody's like, you know, a million dollars and

580
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: of course they didn't sell it now. Um, but yeah,

581
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: we haven't run into that. Mostly the problem is from

582
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: um ticket outlets just charging ridiculous fees on top of

583
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: our ticket price. Well that makes us mad, and you

584
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: all should know we don't have control over that. Um.

585
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: We're the Eddie Vetter of podcasting, right. But if you

586
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: ever find yourself in a situation where you got shut

587
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: out of the stuff, you should know show and your

588
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: option is to not go or to pay like a

589
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: ridiculous amount, just send us an email. Will put you

590
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: on the list. Oh god, Chuck, Wow, you just opened

591
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: some floodgates. I mean, there's a very few list spots,

592
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: so it's not like you know right now you just

593
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: started a must have toy frenzy for the list. Look

594
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: what you've done. Oh let's get back to bots. Um.

595
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: These bots are so savvy that they can they can

596
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: buy out, they can have hundreds of credit card numbers

597
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: on file because sometimes they'll have like a limit to

598
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: how many things you can buy. They are all these

599
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: shortcuts in ways to bypass all of these safeguards put

600
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: into effect, including captures. They will hire foreign workers to

601
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: sit around and type in the captions to get through security.

602
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: Which I mean, if there is anything that says holiday

603
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: spirit more than that, I can't think of it. But

604
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: these bots can, uh can sometimes buy out something in

605
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: the second that it goes up online for regular human

606
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: to say, oh, like, all right, they've released the tickets

607
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: or the doll m right, because they they'll see. What

608
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: they'll do is they'll go on to like retail websites

609
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: and figure out what the unique idea is for the

610
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: product that they're looking for. It'll start right, it'll start

611
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: monitoring that page because people who build these pages will

612
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: put them out and just won't you know, kind of

613
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: really open the curtain for hours ahead of time, so

614
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: the body will have the page targeted and just keep

615
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: refreshing it hundreds of times a second until that sale

616
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: goes live, and they will have ordered scores of these

617
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: things or dozens or hundreds whatever however many it can

618
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: before you can even if you're sitting there refreshing your browser,

619
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: between the time it takes to refresh your page, they

620
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: will have wiped the place out using these bots. And

621
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: then if you're truly sophisticated, you probably have another set

622
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: of bots who take your inventory and then put it

623
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Speaker 1: up for sale at some exorbitant price on Amazon or

624
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: eBay or craig List or something like that. Yeah, the

625
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: worst people. So like, you don't even have to do anything,

626
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: you just stick your bots on it. Yeah. I stand

627
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: by it, even for the enterprising person who I just

628
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a have a big

629
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: problem with someone making money off of someone else's misfortune

630
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: to not have been able to get that themselves. I

631
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: don't think it makes someone scrappy or enterprising at all.

632
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, that's that's fine. Yeah, I'll die on this hill. Okay,

633
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: that's fine. So if you are one of those people

634
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: that Chuck hates and you want to be enterprising, there

635
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: is a article written by Lisa Smith. It's on Investipedia

636
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: and it's called the Guide to reselling toys at Christmas

637
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Speaker 1: for extra money, which is very innocuous. Um. Then there's

638
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: some tips actually that make a lot of sense. If

639
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: you want to do this, do you want to go

640
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: over them or you're gonna remain mute? You can go

641
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: over so you could talk to parents if you wanted

642
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: to write Chuck, that's right, Josh good idea. Um there,

643
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: because they know what kids want. You can talk to

644
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: kids themselves, which makes sense. I mean, just go right

645
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: to the horse's mouth. I've already said the same thing, Joshua. Um,

646
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: you can talk to Santa. I thought this was pretty enterprising.

647
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Like imagine if you are trying So what you're trying

648
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: to do here is to identify what toy you want

649
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: to buy as early ahead of time as possible, so that, um,

650
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: you can have identified the hot season, the hot toy

651
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: of the season, and bought them before the demand really struck.

652
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: So you talked to mall, Santa's hang out in stores,

653
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: you can talk to cashier's stock people, all that stuff,

654
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: because not only will they know what toy you need

655
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: to look out for, they'll know when these new supplies

656
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: are coming in. Maybe slip on a Starbucks card or

657
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: something like that with ten Bucks on it as a

658
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: thank you, but be sure to deduct that from your

659
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: bottom line. Deduct that bribery, right, and then um, you

660
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: can actually hang out in chat rooms. There's entire websites

661
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: that are dedicated to this kind of stuff that are

662
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: um you know that that say like, here's the toys

663
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: we're looking for or I spotted some at this you know,

664
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: Walmart or whatever. This this stock guy said that Walmart

665
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: replenish his own on Thursdays at ten. Um. There's a

666
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: lot of stuff you can do if you really wanted

667
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: to put the leg work in great or you could

668
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: put all that energy into doing something worthwhile. Right, I

669
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. This is the like the

670
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Michael Larson approach to the holidays, the man who got

671
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: no whammy's on pressure. Luck. Oh, I had no problem

672
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: with him. Okay, this is virtually the same thing. It's

673
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: somebody Michael Larson wasn't. Uh, there wasn't some father who

674
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: didn't have much money that you know, overpaid for a

675
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: doll to make his little girl happy at Christmas time.

676
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: Michael Larson didn't do that, right, Uh, he would have, though,

677
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure of it. Oh goodness. So that's what you

678
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: can do if you want to flip toys and ruin

679
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: the holidays. As far as Chuck's concerns, um and that

680
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: is that is a big part of the competition of

681
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: people who will go buy out stocks like you're not

682
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: really facing them nationwide unless you're talking about people who

683
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: release bots onto websites or whatever. But they are out

684
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: there and they do. They do actually create competition and

685
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: help drive that frenzy even further, because remember what's behind

686
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: must have toys a scarcity marketing, and if there are

687
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: people out there actively contributing to the scarcity, that's a

688
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: big deal. Here's what I want to hear from. I

689
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: want to hear from, uh some women listeners who let's

690
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: say you go on a on a on a date

691
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: from a dating app and you sit down across from

692
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: your date and you're like, what do you do? And

693
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: he goes, I'm a toy flipper, and she like, what's that?

694
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: Because you know, around Christmas time, I go out and

695
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: buy like tons of toys that I know little kids

696
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: really really want, and then I'll mark them up so

697
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: I can make a lot of money off their parents

698
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: who may not be able to afford it. Right, and

699
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: just tell me how that date goes from there? Yeah?

700
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Can it? Does it have to be a man and

701
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: a woman? Can it just be anybody? It can be anybody?

702
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: But you know, I think the guy that does this

703
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: is the guy that I just did that voice for,

704
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: who's apparently from Jersey. They're all from New Jersey. Okay, So, um,

705
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: I feel like we've learned a lot here. We've talked about,

706
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: you know, how a toy becomes a must have toy

707
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: of a season usually has to do with some sort

708
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: of some combination of of advertising and buzz marketing as

709
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: long or as well as um scarcity the flippers get involved. Um,

710
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: I think, and I want to back this up, Chuck,

711
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of stuff out there on this.

712
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: This all had to be brought together. This is kind

713
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: of one of those rare stuff you should know THESS

714
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: about what makes must have toy must have toy. But

715
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it holds up. Should we

716
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: talk about some of the big toys of this year? Yes,

717
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: So those lists that are out there, this helps me.

718
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: Actually we put a bunch of well that's the point.

719
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: That's we're trying to help you and all of the

720
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: toy flippers out there. So actually this is for all

721
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: the parents. This will help you get a drop on

722
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: the toy flippers, because I guarantee there are very few

723
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: toy flippers listening to stuff you should know now because

724
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: we have good people in our audience, so that all

725
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: those lists that are out there now we kind of

726
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: compiled and cross referenced them. A number of them lists

727
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: from Target, Toys, toughts, pets, and more. That's just one Amazon,

728
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: the Today's Show, Toy Insider, the Spruce Crazy Coupon Lady

729
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: who had a post about toy flipping, Walmart, and New

730
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: York Magazine. All those lists we looked at and we

731
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: found ones that appeared on at least a couple, if

732
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: not more, And one of them, the first one, appeared

733
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: on basically every single list that we saw. Yeah, this one,

734
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: the balloom doll b l U m E. Nothing to

735
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: do with the rest of development, but it is this

736
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: is something and that that my daughter might like. Apparently

737
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: this is another another thing you add water to uh

738
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: and it blooms. But this is I don't think it

739
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: hatches from an egg. I think this doll just like

740
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: grows like a chia pet mite kind of, and like

741
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: the hair that grows is I can't tell. It looks

742
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: like some sort of foam or styrofoam or something, but

743
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: it takes different shapes like pineapples or cakes or something

744
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: like that. And there's I think twenty two different versions. Yeah, yeah,

745
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: but they're also yeah, they're super affordable too, so they're

746
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: they're probably going to be the hot must have Christmas

747
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: toy of the Year's bloom Dolls Hatch the Moles are

748
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: still around. Yeah, and there's one that's um from How

749
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: to Train Your Dragon Toothless Dragon, the Baby Dragon. They

750
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: have a Hatch the Mole version of him. What else

751
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: really Barbies on the list? Yeah, Barbie has a dream Plane,

752
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: which I saw in a couple of lists where um, yeah,

753
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: it's a for Barbie. There's like a snack cart and

754
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: everything comes with a dog that I guess lives on

755
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: the plane. There's also l O L Surprise? Have you

756
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: heard of that? I hadn't heard of it either until

757
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: we started researching this, But they're like a whole brand

758
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: um and a lot of these, including bloom Dolls in

759
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: l O L Surprise, they tap into like this whole

760
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: trend of unboxing. Do you remember when we talked about

761
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: unboxing on YouTube where like people open toys because our

762
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: good friend, uh Joe Randazzo did his Lego Man unboxing

763
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: videos that were still to me one of the funniest

764
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen. Yes, great plug by the way,

765
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: but they still do that, like they're still unboxing is

766
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: a huge trend and that's worked its way into toys,

767
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: so L O L Surprise is kind of based on that,

768
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: and there's like a whole line of dolls but they're

769
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: like into like DJ stuff and fashion and all that,

770
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: but they also have Surprise. And there's also a kid

771
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: named Ryan's World. I don't think that's his last name,

772
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: but that's his his YouTube channel and guarantee we talked

773
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: about Ryan's World in that Unboxing Toys episode. But um,

774
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: he's got all sorts of toys that are um out

775
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: where you like, you just don't know what you're getting

776
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: when you open the thing. It's just surprise unboxing the

777
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: weird sub genre on YouTube of unboxing or I remember

778
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: we talked about the one where the lady's hands would

779
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: just play with things. Yeah, it was the Yeah remember

780
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: she was like pepper Peg. Yeah, it's so interesting. Uh,

781
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the one on the list though that

782
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: I like that. Um, I usually look at the toys

783
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: that I'm like, what, I like to play this with

784
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: my daughter, because that's important. I can't be bored out

785
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: of my mind, you know. Oh yeah, good point. Uh.

786
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: And this lego make your own movie kit looks pretty

787
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: cool to me. Yeah. I was kind of hartened to

788
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: see that on on a couple of lists, you know,

789
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: because it's like, this is about motion movies you can make. Yeah,

790
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: it's thoughtful, it's inventive. Yeah, where it's it's yeah, there's

791
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: They have a bunch of different stages and backgrounds and props,

792
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: including a banana. It's great. So you learn how to make.

793
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get get her? That? I think you

794
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: should anytime? Buddy? Can we make a flaming hoop out

795
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: of a coat hanger and do things with that too? Okay? Um?

796
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: And then the other one was the Fisher Price link

797
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: A moles, which are super cute, including the smooth move sloth.

798
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: Hey I'm down with Fisher Price yea, so huge, huge

799
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? Do you remember Playmobile? Play Mobile? Remember

800
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: that they were like the vaguely European kind of um

801
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: action people, but there was nothing like violent or military

802
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: about them. They would explore or um. I probably recognize them.

803
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: I definitely know that name. You You've seen it a

804
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: million times. Right when you see it, you I'll I'll

805
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: look it up and show it to you later. But

806
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: it's you'll see it and be like, yeah, of course, wait,

807
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: I see him right there. Sure, yeah, there you go. Yeah.

808
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: I was kind of a Fisher Price kid. But you know,

809
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: we still have some of that stuff that our daughter

810
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: plays with that we had when we were kids, like

811
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: the barn and the boat, and you know, it holds up,

812
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: definitely does hold up. You got anything else, nothing else?

813
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna go buy a bunch of toys and flip them.

814
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: I got nothing else except for twenty tho hatch homles

815
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: in my garage. Man. Here's the other thing, though, Chuck, like,

816
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: you're taking a risk because you've got to predict what

817
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: they must have toys. And if you if you guess wrong,

818
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: you've got twenty thousand hatch moles that nobody wants. But

819
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: I'd love to see that happen in real life. I

820
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: guarantee it happened. So just keep an ear out, Uh,

821
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about the must have toys.

822
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: There's basically nothing you can't know that we haven't already

823
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: told you. So just I guess, go get your your

824
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: kids some Christmas toys. That's right? Is that a good

825
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: way to sign off? That's great? Okay? Since I said, uh,

826
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: is this a good way to sign off. It's time

827
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: for listener mail. I'm gonna call this from a teacher.

828
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: We always like to shout out our teachers and their

829
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: their students. Hey, guys, just sending one of what I'm

830
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: sure is among infinite thank you so that you receive

831
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: as a teacher who regularly references knowledge I gained from

832
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: listening to your show in my class. My students, unwittingly, Uh,

833
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: and I are eternally grateful for your work. They give

834
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: a hearty laugh whenever I steal your characters. Took Took

835
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: the wise proto Homo sapien and erg the folly prone

836
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: genetic defect to elucidate points about the evolution of early humans.

837
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Speaker 1: I knew you wouldn't mind my poaching that you think, John,

838
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: you'll be hearing from our lawyers. John, you're the toy

839
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: flipper of teachers. Just kidding, Uh. The reason I'm writing

840
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: is to say I think you should not be discouraged

841
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: by any listener mail you received telling you to keep

842
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: your opinions to yourself. My favorite episodes are the ones

843
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: where either or both of you have so strong feelings

844
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: about the subject that you can't help but go on

845
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: a rant Maybe it's just because I agree with every rant,

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Speaker 1: That is from John L. Bushkin. So thank you, Mr. Lebushkin,

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