Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy seven,
Speaker 1: Episode five of Dirt at Leisai Guys production of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Friday, March third,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien aka nowadays everybody
Speaker 1: TikTok's asking questions all day, but all that comes out
Speaker 1: when they move their lips to some super bullshit motherfucker's
Speaker 1: act like they forgot about Jay as in Jaywalking. Let's
Speaker 1: courtesy christ I'm a Gucci man. Shout out to Shout
Speaker 1: out to him. Also shout out to him. So the
Speaker 1: thing that was stuck in my head to come loft
Speaker 1: us up where we was actually the first ay ka
Speaker 1: he ever wrote for our guest host today Emmy nominated writer, artist,
Speaker 1: comedian behind many unacclaimed podcasts. Great podcast guests. If you
Speaker 1: listen to your wrong about and author of the upcoming
Speaker 1: book Raw Dog, which if you like Jamie Loftus, if
Speaker 1: you like this podcast, you are truly going to love it.
Speaker 1: It's so readable, it's just the pages fly by hope
Speaker 1: for it's no but like that is the thing for me.
Speaker 1: It's like some books are like good, but I'm just
Speaker 1: like my eyes reject them. And Raw Dog is incredibly readable.
Speaker 1: It is it goes down very easy and is so funny,
Speaker 1: so good, so smart. She's here all week, folks. It's Jamie.
Speaker 1: I've been on the road searching for a dog that's
Speaker 1: long enough. Maybe you can show me one I love.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going through withdraws. I don't even need to
Speaker 1: eat a bunch. I am satisfied with just a touch. Baby.
Speaker 1: My fridge is cold and empty. Oh, like a rink
Speaker 1: that's used for hockey. Oh son, He says, I need
Speaker 1: some ice and rough dogs. I said, oh, these bony nights. No,
Speaker 1: I guess sleep ben Tilla smooth that slush. I said, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm hosting Daily's eight and I read about hot dogs.
Speaker 1: Order the book. That's a Christy you have a Gucci
Speaker 1: main original. I feel fitting for the cycle today, folks.
Speaker 1: He's really been churning out the hits for well over
Speaker 1: half a decade. He's like had an unrun one of
Speaker 1: our greatest weird Al Yankovic sho truly just a run
Speaker 1: unlike you know. It's just been ninety six bulls with
Speaker 1: this guy on on and on and on. It's incredible, weird,
Speaker 1: look like normal, Al Yankovic. He's so good. Wow, I
Speaker 1: think that a compliment right by the Yeah, regular regular
Speaker 1: regular Alfred. I was like, what, I don't know, no clue. Well,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by a comedy writer, podcast producer, animator, actor. You know
Speaker 1: from podcasts like Left Handed Radio and the new podcast
Speaker 1: w LHR Fake Radio. It's Adam Bozer, Cocaine Bear snowding
Speaker 1: Hollywood snow in his cocaine layer. Nice, I love it.
Speaker 1: Wish Swish from way downtown boz Ar, what's come on?
Speaker 1: It's good to be back up. The name of your
Speaker 1: new show, is it w LAHR fake public Radio? Public radio?
Speaker 1: I mean it's still it's still fake radio. It's not incorrect.
Speaker 1: M Yeah. There was more of a description and it
Speaker 1: was a shorthand, and that's why I did it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm so familiar with it. Well, thank you for
Speaker 1: doing the lord's work and making fun of public radio.
Speaker 1: NPR is frequent subject of I don't know. It's a
Speaker 1: silly it's a very silly world that demands that you
Speaker 1: take it seriously. And it Uh, it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Like. One of the shows we did was
Speaker 1: we made a Halloween version of The Daily called The
Speaker 1: Nightly with Michael Barbaric. Oh yeah, scared, I'm already scared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty We interviewed Freddy Krueger about
Speaker 1: white kids aren't easy to terrify anymore? Does he have
Speaker 1: the same the same pausing oh yeah, same, Oh good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. The It started because I was doing the
Speaker 1: Michael Barbaro voice but doing the the silver Shamrock ads
Speaker 1: from Halloween three, where I would just be it's almost time, kids,
Speaker 1: it's your favorite Halloween three, the Spooky Witch, scary Silton Head, Damn,
Speaker 1: Michael Barbara sounds like he wants to fuck me, what's
Speaker 1: going on? My favorite barbaroism is when he's like that
Speaker 1: convention where it's like I'm trying to connect my zoom call.
Speaker 1: I can't get it on, and you're like, man, I
Speaker 1: know you're a person. Just start at the part where
Speaker 1: you're talking. Just edit that out. I know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know you have an editor, Michael. I know that it
Speaker 1: took them extra work to not edit that out right.
Speaker 1: It's weirder that you texted them to leave it in.
Speaker 1: Leave it in the part where I was struggling with
Speaker 1: my zoom call leave it in. People are going to
Speaker 1: connect with that heart. Yeah, that's that's very similitude. That's
Speaker 1: what that's what people are looking for in their podcast.
Speaker 1: I was trying to I haven't listened to the Daily
Speaker 1: so for so long that I was trying to do
Speaker 1: a Michael Barbaro like mmmm vocalization, but I did master
Speaker 1: p instead. Make them say, I wonder if anyone's done
Speaker 1: that the Barbaro vocalization. Make them say, anyways, the internet,
Speaker 1: you have your homework. That's the that's the noise of
Speaker 1: public radio. Is that that? Yeah, Yeah, gives the discord
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, it'll be done. Thank you, Thank you, Discord.
Speaker 1: The Discord is wonderful. I do. I do enjoy it. Anyways, Adam,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of the things that we're talking about today. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the UN has raised the idea once
Speaker 1: again that we should start like reflecting the Sun's raise
Speaker 1: against the earth away from the Earth to keep to
Speaker 1: combat global warming. They're like, well, no one's gonna stop
Speaker 1: polluting the earth, so now let's pollute it in another direction,
Speaker 1: like a different direction, which is the inciting incident for
Speaker 1: snow Piercer or I guess it's not the inciting incident,
Speaker 1: but it's the thing that it's like the sky Net,
Speaker 1: We're just we have just competing post apocalyptic scenarios. We've
Speaker 1: got sky Net, you know, chat GPT, and then snow
Speaker 1: Piercer has entered the Ring and the un is advocating
Speaker 1: for it. So it raises a bunch of new questions.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Elon Musk brain chip not good, Elon must bad brain chip? No, okay, no,
Speaker 1: I'm prepared to debate about that. Yeah, I actually have
Speaker 1: some thoughts and Elon's a genius. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: King Charles's carnation. I still feel so weird for him
Speaker 1: to be called King. I know, it's it's amazing. I'm
Speaker 1: just so hopeful that somebody is taking behind the scenes
Speaker 1: footage of the planning of this coronation, because he like
Speaker 1: the very small snippets we got of his pen running
Speaker 1: out of Ink and him just having like a mental
Speaker 1: breakdown over it, like these like I want that for
Speaker 1: all of this because nobody wants to play his coronation
Speaker 1: Like he all his favorite musicians that he asked, nobody
Speaker 1: wants to do it. Really, Yeah, I can't keeps getting
Speaker 1: turned down by Adele and Edge Shearon being rejected by
Speaker 1: Ed Charon. I wouldn't show my face. I wouldn't show
Speaker 1: my face for years. He just seems I know he's
Speaker 1: very famous, but he just seems like he's available, right,
Speaker 1: just generally constantly available to all also the Spice Girls,
Speaker 1: Robbie Williams and Elton John So you don't even need
Speaker 1: to like currently be producing hits to turn down King
Speaker 1: King World Coronation. But this coordination had time to go
Speaker 1: on the circle and they don't. I know, this coordination
Speaker 1: is just I love every everything about it. Like just
Speaker 1: they were like, do we need to just like rush
Speaker 1: it out because he's such a mess, and like so
Speaker 1: just pathetic that like we like we don't want people
Speaker 1: paying attention to it. But now they've like paused it
Speaker 1: for long enough and they're like, we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: thing about I think it's like something about like how
Speaker 1: the economy is down and so like that's going to
Speaker 1: be the theme of his coronation is like d how
Speaker 1: in touch with the ordinary people he is, which just
Speaker 1: oh my god, just don't please do please do I
Speaker 1: just I yes, right into the veins, so much veep
Speaker 1: energy to this whole Okay, we need to get He
Speaker 1: just seem like mister regular guy. She just seem like
Speaker 1: regular Charles, not weird Charles. And they've been so worried
Speaker 1: about him, like from like the time the Queen turned
Speaker 1: like fifty. They were like, oh my god, she's gonna
Speaker 1: die one day and we're gonna be stuck with this guy.
Speaker 1: Like he's he's just like haunted by his own mediocrity.
Speaker 1: He's just so like the most thin skinned human who
Speaker 1: has ever existed. There's so many great stories about what
Speaker 1: h like just bizarre human specimen. This guy is. So
Speaker 1: I'm yes, please please, somebody be taking video, just even
Speaker 1: I'll take iPhone footage. We'll we'll edit it together into
Speaker 1: something coherent, but please truly to his absolute core in
Speaker 1: his marriage, and it's like if you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm like the very very least and a evil like
Speaker 1: at evil Colonizer family can do is be embarrassing, be
Speaker 1: embarrassing in public? Yeah, like for all of us, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but the royal family is in their flop era for sure.
Speaker 1: We are going to get to probably some of that.
Speaker 1: But first, Adam, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Well, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was looking up my astrological sign, and the reason
Speaker 1: I was like looking it up is because like I
Speaker 1: don't know much about it, Like, well, here's also the
Speaker 1: thing because like my birthday's on the twenty second, so
Speaker 1: I'm too at once, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: depending on the story, Cusp, here are you a pisces Aries? Cusp? No, uh,
Speaker 1: Scorpio Sagittarius, pisces Aries? Oh oh I thought your birthday.
Speaker 1: I thought your birthday was coming up. I'm sorry. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's okay, I mean in a way it is, but um,
Speaker 1: one month, twenty second, one month, November November okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, okay, yeah. So it was like one of
Speaker 1: those things where it's just like it's not something I
Speaker 1: really paid attention to. And then my partner Anna, who
Speaker 1: does Left Andrew Radio with me, she was working on
Speaker 1: this show about astrology, and we'll just like, what what
Speaker 1: is the what are the things that are supposed to
Speaker 1: apply to who we are? And then we like read
Speaker 1: them and there's like mmmmm, I think it's backwards, like oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she got yours, you got hers? Yeah, yeah, we seem
Speaker 1: to well that all happened sometimes actually, when you live
Speaker 1: with someone long enough. I guess yeah, I didn't read
Speaker 1: far enough. I also looked up the old sick corn.
Speaker 1: I looked up the old sandwich shop in my college
Speaker 1: town to make sure it was still open. I guess yeah, what, So,
Speaker 1: can you explain the sandwich store controversy to me somebody
Speaker 1: who's supposed to pay attention to the news for a living.
Speaker 1: Which sandwich store controversy are you're talking about the college?
Speaker 1: Isn't there a college sandwich store controversy that's happening? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: now I now have to find that out. Now that's
Speaker 1: gonna be my list. Oh wait, what were you referring
Speaker 1: to when you said you, oh, do you know how
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes like you'd just be like it's like
Speaker 1: this weird thing where like you just go like there's
Speaker 1: so many, so many things closed during pandemic and so
Speaker 1: many like like things will just go out of business anyway,
Speaker 1: and you just go like I hear, is that shop
Speaker 1: that I got the sandwich out a couple of times
Speaker 1: still open? And it was just like, let me look,
Speaker 1: I have to know. I have to know instead of
Speaker 1: like just moving on with life. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like college sandwich stores are probably among the
Speaker 1: most resilient because they had like a starving population marooned there,
Speaker 1: like even during the pandemic. I think I guess colleges
Speaker 1: didn't all stay open during during during the pandemic, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. They it's a pretty inelastic demand. I
Speaker 1: would say they're they're probably hanging in there. What was
Speaker 1: your college sandwich place? Yes, it is. It was called
Speaker 1: the International Sandwich Shop, and it just Oh I loved
Speaker 1: titles like that. Yeah, it's like in the middle of
Speaker 1: an Illinois farm town and it's called the International Sandwich Shop.
Speaker 1: I guess because they had like meats from across the country.
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's a ridiculous title. I love a
Speaker 1: grandiose title. Right place, there's this place called the hot
Speaker 1: Dog Hall of Fame, where I'm like, where the fuck
Speaker 1: do you get off calling it that, but it's so thrilling.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I feel like I'm I'm a part
Speaker 1: of something bigger than myself when I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: eating a bunch of bullshit. I just looked up mine.
Speaker 1: It appears to still be in business, although it's impossible
Speaker 1: to know because the webs site has not been updated
Speaker 1: since it's before I went there. Is Wise Miller's Deli.
Speaker 1: The chicken Madness. What chicken madness is the is a
Speaker 1: delicious sandwich. It's like chunks of grilled chicken cheese. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not very appropriate. They're they're not doing a good
Speaker 1: job of, you know, acknowledging people's mental health struggles. But
Speaker 1: there's both chicken madness and burger madness, and they are
Speaker 1: delicious sandwiches. But the website leaves on rocks something to
Speaker 1: be desired. Although I think it's come back around to
Speaker 1: being like cool again. Yeah, it's got like a kitchen
Speaker 1: wheel now. Yeah. The web design is actually like the
Speaker 1: color combo is salmon and then yeah, and then like
Speaker 1: a very strange combination of greens, and it's like low
Speaker 1: rise jeans. You just have to wait long enough for
Speaker 1: it to come back and I've been waiting and I'm
Speaker 1: ready for to put mine to sport mine again, my
Speaker 1: low rise duents. I want I wonder if the chicken
Speaker 1: madness is still like there's I wonder if someone is
Speaker 1: keeping track of this, because I would drop everything to
Speaker 1: do it if if it's not being done, just a
Speaker 1: keeping track of like our fallen sandwiches over time, the
Speaker 1: chicken madness, there's a whole story there. You know, the
Speaker 1: seafood sensation from Subway. I know that there's still people
Speaker 1: that are fighting for that to this day. The tuna
Speaker 1: sandwich from Dunkey Donuts, that's obviously something that's important to me.
Speaker 1: But there's just a lot of, you know, sandwiches that
Speaker 1: have been and I want like a defunct Land style
Speaker 1: YouTube channel for a channel for like sandwiches that don't
Speaker 1: exist anymore. Yeah, well, the chicken madness is not going away.
Speaker 1: So it's not gonna be on your thank God, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank God. It's not gonna be on your little show, Jamie.
Speaker 1: Sorry to say, fine, Jack, what is something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated? Adam? Did you guys see Vanctor? Was it
Speaker 1: the New Yorker? The end of the English major thing?
Speaker 1: I saw it and then I said, I'm not cooking
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, it's it's this like so it's like
Speaker 1: one of those like very you know, typical, Like it's
Speaker 1: got this scare headline the end of the English major,
Speaker 1: and it's like Arizona State University is seeing a decline
Speaker 1: in people studying English and getting their degrees in English.
Speaker 1: Some colleges are saying like we don't have enough students
Speaker 1: to necessitate an English program, and it's like we focus
Speaker 1: so much on stam within the last like five ten
Speaker 1: years that people are not motivated to get their degree
Speaker 1: in English. And also there's like that that's typical like
Speaker 1: cell phone scare thing of like oh people have cell phones.
Speaker 1: They don't read books anymore. I mean this one professor's like,
Speaker 1: I just got a self. I just got a smartphone,
Speaker 1: and I went from reading five novels a month to
Speaker 1: one novel a month because I'm reading all these websites.
Speaker 1: And it's like, like, okay, shut up there they like
Speaker 1: people don't want to study because of this boring attitude.
Speaker 1: I hate when someone does something boring and then they're
Speaker 1: like this is news. You're like, it's not. Shut up.
Speaker 1: You got a phone it's not my problem, Oh my god, exactly,
Speaker 1: and also like lamenting like I couldn't imagine assigning Middle
Speaker 1: March to to today's English students, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe that's fine, Like maybe we do actually need a
Speaker 1: focus on STEM and we don't eat people like going
Speaker 1: into massive debt to get an English major, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like if it's a specialty major or
Speaker 1: you can't get one at every college, maybe that's not
Speaker 1: a problem. Well I didn't even think. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: like I saw some conversation going on around that piece
Speaker 1: that I would just think when I learned about something
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I'm like, m probably safer to interact with
Speaker 1: this and never learn what it is. That's sort of
Speaker 1: my current Twitter policy. But I did see people say like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: there's also like it's such a common thing to like
Speaker 1: bully people who are like history or English majors that like,
Speaker 1: I would understand why people would be less willing to
Speaker 1: do it. And also like you're saying, like less willing
Speaker 1: to Like if it was more accessible to get an
Speaker 1: English degree and you didn't need to go into six
Speaker 1: figure debt to do it, I'm sure that more people
Speaker 1: would want to. But if the price of college is
Speaker 1: going up, then it makes sense that like it would
Speaker 1: be more popular to get a degree that you could
Speaker 1: probably get a like almost certainly get a job in afterwards,
Speaker 1: which sucks because then it's like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's it's bad. Yeah it's not great.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that, people are like, I'm on my grind,
Speaker 1: I got a major and angel investor v venture capital firms.
Speaker 1: Where the fuck? I just hate the idea that they
Speaker 1: would blame it on phones. It's like, okay, well if
Speaker 1: phones are like, phones aren't gonna go anywhere, so a
Speaker 1: lot of people are. I don't know. It's like even
Speaker 1: like the Rizon popularity and like audiobooks, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just need to find a way to consume the
Speaker 1: same thing that matches people's like consumption habits better right,
Speaker 1: chill out as think yes, chill out. Professor dork is
Speaker 1: a T shirt I have to say, coming to get
Speaker 1: can't it's a great T shirt. I was a philosophy major,
Speaker 1: so I don't know anything about useless majors. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have my degree in art, so nice and screenwrit hot dogs?
Speaker 1: Did you tell? Yeah? Yeah, that's actually that's a trade,
Speaker 1: though Philosophy not as not so much. Philosophy majors are
Speaker 1: all like, they're like, you could be a lawyer, or
Speaker 1: you could be a philosophy professor and teach other philosophy majors.
Speaker 1: The two genders. I consider you to be a philosopher,
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, Oh, that means so much to me. That's
Speaker 1: much better than lawyer. I consider you to be a lawyer, Jack,
Speaker 1: a closeted lawyer. You know, I've had boyfriends that have
Speaker 1: told me that when I argue with them that I
Speaker 1: would They're like, you know, you would make a great litigator,
Speaker 1: but it's meant to be insulting of course. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And all men are so bad at arguing with women
Speaker 1: that they are like, oh my god, yeah, what are
Speaker 1: you talking to? Their defense is, wow, you're really you're
Speaker 1: winning this argument. Wow, you should be a professional bitch.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you should be You're like, maybe I will, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's something you think is underrated? Him? I I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, guys, but I am so relieved that
Speaker 1: the Havana syndrome isn't real. Yes, it's one of these
Speaker 1: things where like we are definitely living in like science
Speaker 1: fiction times in the idea that like, you know, our
Speaker 1: intelligent agents or intelligence agents are getting like, you know,
Speaker 1: laser beamed in the head is frightening, and then to
Speaker 1: find out that it's just anxiety and crickets is a
Speaker 1: bit of a relief, But like, I'm not ready for
Speaker 1: that level of I guess warfare. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: they weren't. Like that's the amazing thing, because they spent
Speaker 1: the whole, the entirety of the Cold War benefiting from
Speaker 1: like their paranoia and you know, just being super paranoid
Speaker 1: and being like that means that Russia has these super
Speaker 1: weapons and we need to be spending billions and trillions
Speaker 1: of dollars on these these weapons. That's what it was
Speaker 1: like driven by. And the fact that this time they're
Speaker 1: just like, nah, They're sorry, we were making it up
Speaker 1: our bad. This is an embarrassing I do appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and I am glad. I was also very on the
Speaker 1: record that this wasn't real from pretty early on, So
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I gotta say, it's day two of us
Speaker 1: talking about Havana syndrome on the daily Zee guys, and
Speaker 1: I'm no closer to understanding what we're talking about. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I think that's brave of me to admit. Yesterday, I
Speaker 1: think I really muscled my way through the conversation and
Speaker 1: tried to say just enough words, and today I just
Speaker 1: don't get it. It does sound like a John Clancy
Speaker 1: novel or something like that. So yeah, don't blame you
Speaker 1: for just checking out at the name Yana syndrome. It's
Speaker 1: like basically a couple spots. Do you want to know
Speaker 1: what it is or do you want to just kind
Speaker 1: of stay just muscle through. No, I want I want
Speaker 1: to know. I want to know. I like to learn
Speaker 1: from my friends. It's like a couple spies in Havana
Speaker 1: were like they heard a loud beaming like a loud
Speaker 1: screeching noise and then started suffering from like vertigo and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And then and they told other spies that,
Speaker 1: and those spies had similar things happened to them, and
Speaker 1: they and so it became this thing where they were like,
Speaker 1: Russia has a sound weapon that they are like attacking
Speaker 1: us with and it is like frying our brain matter
Speaker 1: and like that, you guys need to look into this.
Speaker 1: And it seems to like there was a very good
Speaker 1: article from pro Publica early on where they were just
Speaker 1: like tracing how the reports came in, and it was
Speaker 1: just clear that it like the way these were spreading
Speaker 1: was through like social contact with people and then like
Speaker 1: hearing about it in like very uncertain circumstances and feeling
Speaker 1: weird about it. And then there's that New York Times
Speaker 1: article that like showed that it, you know, could be
Speaker 1: this mess psychogenetic thing that they've done a really good
Speaker 1: job of studying and like figuring out how to treat it.
Speaker 1: But but then it like once came a news story.
Speaker 1: It also like tied in with Trump wanting to undo
Speaker 1: all of Obama's progress with Cuba and so he like
Speaker 1: pulled a bunch of spies out of Havana. Was like,
Speaker 1: you know, Cuba is either attacking us or making it
Speaker 1: possible for people to attack us. So it's like this
Speaker 1: big international incident that was probably caused by yeah, like
Speaker 1: Adam said, anxiety and right, deep spiritual issues that CIA
Speaker 1: agents have with what they do for a living, Wow,
Speaker 1: is in their ears of their own regret. So somebody
Speaker 1: got a recording of this like noise and they were like,
Speaker 1: that's the laser beam noise. And then people were studying
Speaker 1: it and an entomologist was like, those are those are
Speaker 1: Cuban crickets. That's just what crickets sound like that And
Speaker 1: they're like, no, that that actually was. That actually wasn't
Speaker 1: the one. We were sorry, we got the recording wrong.
Speaker 1: That actually wasn't the one. Wait. Wait, first of all,
Speaker 1: are you like a fucking lawyer, because like the way
Speaker 1: you're picking this apart is upset. Sorry, yeah, being a
Speaker 1: huge bitch. You guys, you're being a huge bitch right now.
Speaker 1: Syndrome stuff like that. I wish you could just say
Speaker 1: that to the CIA. You can't, unfortunately. Yeah. So, anyways,
Speaker 1: it does seem like people are taking this last report
Speaker 1: because there's been like many reports that were like this
Speaker 1: was not a thing, there were no weapons. But it
Speaker 1: does seem like this last one, because it was multiple
Speaker 1: intelligence agencies kind of coming together and say it wasn't
Speaker 1: a thing, it seems like it's actually struck like kind
Speaker 1: of broken through. And now the ANA syndrome is officially
Speaker 1: seen by a lot of people now as like what
Speaker 1: it was. So that is in a nutsch what it is.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that I didn't do a better job
Speaker 1: explaining that on yesterday's episode. But no, it was my
Speaker 1: job to understand better when I showed up, and then
Speaker 1: I got scared. But you know, here we are. I
Speaker 1: think we're doing good. Yeah, we're all doing our best here.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about reflecting the Sun's energy away from the Earth.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and we're back. And have you guys
Speaker 1: seen snow Piercer. Yeah, yeah, so like in that movie
Speaker 1: that just like in the prologue, like the news clip
Speaker 1: montage prologue, they're like, somebody put it to combat climate change.
Speaker 1: Somebody put a chemical into the atmosphere to like reflect
Speaker 1: the Sun's rays away from the Earth, and they like
Speaker 1: overdid it, and now the planet is ice planet and
Speaker 1: the only people who are alive are on this train.
Speaker 1: And that definitely scared me off of this idea. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: But now the UN is kind of floating it out
Speaker 1: there again. And there's there's a really good book, the
Speaker 1: Ministry for the Future, that is like somebody who really
Speaker 1: understands climate change in international geopolitical systems writing about how
Speaker 1: the future of climate change could most likely play out.
Speaker 1: And they also like bring this up quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I think the author's name is Kim Stanley Roberts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the author's name is Kim Stanley Robinson. And there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good book. It's worth reading. And
Speaker 1: one of the like things that happens in the book
Speaker 1: is there's like a massive heatwave in India that kills
Speaker 1: like millions of people and motivates the country to like
Speaker 1: go rogue and do their own like high atmosphere gas
Speaker 1: release that actually works to like cool the climate. But
Speaker 1: that is now like a thing that people are writing
Speaker 1: about in news article news article in news articles, because
Speaker 1: like that where nobody is doing the things that we
Speaker 1: would need to do to stop polluting the planet enough
Speaker 1: to have catastrophic climate change. And so the solution is
Speaker 1: to put something in the atmosphere that would act similar
Speaker 1: to like what a volcanic eruption does, which is, like
Speaker 1: you know, the global temperature after a really significant volcanic eruption,
Speaker 1: the global temperature will drop by like a degree or
Speaker 1: two because of all the ash and the atmosphere and
Speaker 1: like the sun not reaching us as as much as
Speaker 1: it does without that stuff. So so bleak that like that,
Speaker 1: we're we're at this point where it's like it's so
Speaker 1: clear that there's not going to be any large scale
Speaker 1: action too. Yeah. Uh that it's like people are trying
Speaker 1: to think two steps ahead of like, well, there's no
Speaker 1: chance there's ever going to be any regulations that are
Speaker 1: significant enough to save the planet, So what if Like
Speaker 1: it's just I understand the logic behind it, but it's
Speaker 1: just like, oh Jesus Christ, we're just never going to
Speaker 1: get good climate change with legislation. Cool, just like fiddling
Speaker 1: with the thermostat is essentially what we've come up with, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like blowing the fucking Nintendo cartridge and hoping for
Speaker 1: the best and just put across the entire globe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what it's going to be really tricky to
Speaker 1: like get everybody on board with this, and like especially
Speaker 1: you know where like right now, like the super wealthy
Speaker 1: are going to be the least affected by climate change
Speaker 1: and like probably in the near future, and so they're
Speaker 1: all going to the Denver Airport and they're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: weigh it out. Yeah, what's it? What's the Denver Airport
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that like there's a bunch of there's a
Speaker 1: tunnel city underneath it. Yeah. Yeah, Now, yeah, there's a kid.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of there's a bunch of tunnels. There's
Speaker 1: some girl Scouts in the nineties that claim that they
Speaker 1: saw the rich people tunnels and they're like, oh, but
Speaker 1: no one ever brought up the tunnels. Why did the
Speaker 1: girl Scouts get the tour of the rich people tunnels?
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. All I know is there's Asian
Speaker 1: girl Scouts that have been to the tunnel, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna go down there, They're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: live well while the rest of us burned to a
Speaker 1: crisp I think is the plan. Yeah, or you know,
Speaker 1: freeze you, depending on where things go. But that's why
Speaker 1: the Denver Airport is allegedly scary. I believe it. There's
Speaker 1: like a really freaky mosaic there two of like people
Speaker 1: in gas masks and stuff like out of nowhere, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of Holocaust imagery. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: gargoyles at baggage claim. There's that big scary horse, Yeah
Speaker 1: that with the glowing red eyes whose like leg fell
Speaker 1: off and killed the sculptor that was creating it. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on with the Denver Airport.
Speaker 1: I love getting stuck there. It makes me feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in b movie. It's exciting, it is, it's got
Speaker 1: a it's got a super villain layer of feel. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: big big minions, Big grew energy to the Denver Airport
Speaker 1: crew energy minions work there. That's how you know shit's
Speaker 1: going down. Um, but okay, so they're gonna so the
Speaker 1: back to this study we're talking about. Yeah, so, I
Speaker 1: mean it's just the the un EP, which is the
Speaker 1: uns like Environmental something or other wrote that like, with
Speaker 1: the world not responding the climate change urgently enough, a
Speaker 1: speculative group of technologies to reflect sunlight back away from
Speaker 1: the Earth has been getting more attention recently, and they're like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't it isn't ready for prime time yet, but
Speaker 1: this view may change if climate action remains insufficient, the
Speaker 1: report says, signaling that it's time for rigorous study of
Speaker 1: both the technologies and the potential international governance, which seems
Speaker 1: like the tricky part. Do they have the chemical like,
Speaker 1: do they know what it would be it's just a
Speaker 1: matter of or is it just like we'd have to
Speaker 1: put in a lot of research to find the chemical
Speaker 1: that would you know, mimic volcanic ash. I think they
Speaker 1: have some theories, but it's also like one of those
Speaker 1: things that you do. It's not really a thing that
Speaker 1: you want to like go with the guess and check
Speaker 1: like method on changing the global temperature. It's the one
Speaker 1: and done. Yeah, yeah, see how it goes there. I
Speaker 1: guess my my question here, and this is has to
Speaker 1: do with the fact that I don't know how the
Speaker 1: U works really. But if like as like, if this
Speaker 1: is a suggestion being brought by their kind of environmental team,
Speaker 1: what why would the world agree, Like why would all
Speaker 1: of the nations in the UN be able to agree
Speaker 1: on this proposition if they already cannot agree on other
Speaker 1: climate change action? Like right, that's yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: climate change action requires them to make sacrifices and do
Speaker 1: things that aren't that are like not profitable, whereas like
Speaker 1: our entire you know, programming, all our coding as a
Speaker 1: civilization has like built itself up to the point that
Speaker 1: it's like that is impossible to do something that is
Speaker 1: not not like operating in the most efficient way for
Speaker 1: shareholder value, it seems like right, and so they're just
Speaker 1: like does not compute, Like there's just like spark there
Speaker 1: the wiring behind their eyes or is like sparking every
Speaker 1: time that you try and get them to do some
Speaker 1: sort of climate change action or you know, like one
Speaker 1: of the big thought systems is like what about not
Speaker 1: gearing everything towards growth, and they're like what like just
Speaker 1: blinking thirty times, like because it's not sustainable and we'll
Speaker 1: blow up. Um. So so this would be like an
Speaker 1: opportunity to circumvent like or try to have it both ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: creating the technology. Yeah, so it's like probably just more
Speaker 1: more jobs created. We're going to create some jobs sending
Speaker 1: people into the stratosphere to spray volcanic ash or yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it's like I don't think
Speaker 1: they're necessarily trying to exactly mimic volcanic ash. I think
Speaker 1: just volcanic eruptions are the thing has like given them
Speaker 1: this idea essentially, But it does seem like something we
Speaker 1: want to be really careful with and also something that's
Speaker 1: going to be incredibly hard to get everybody to agree on.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm sure there's a way that the wealthy
Speaker 1: people who actually control like what decisions get made are
Speaker 1: going to fuck this up for the rest of us, right,
Speaker 1: unless there's like some valuable contract to be gotten from
Speaker 1: from having done it. Like I think part of them
Speaker 1: like they've bought all that all that property in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: like they're they I'm sure there's like at least a
Speaker 1: good portion of the population who like meet up in
Speaker 1: Davos every year who are just like, we kind of
Speaker 1: want this. It seems like it would be fun and
Speaker 1: we would get to like repopulate the earth because we're
Speaker 1: they floating mansions. Yeah like that. So they're like, why
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to have wasted that money,
Speaker 1: So I could I could see even if this does
Speaker 1: turn out to be a good idea, I could see
Speaker 1: this being sort of hitting some headwinds. Yea, As they say,
Speaker 1: it sounds too much like the plot of a Michael
Speaker 1: Bay movie for someone to not completely fuck it up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Michael's Bay and Creighton come together to write a
Speaker 1: science fiction film that is our future. It turns out, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: as long as there's a weird little Graham Cracker inspired
Speaker 1: sex scene. I guess it's like the the Denver Airport thing, Like, really,
Speaker 1: I do believe that even if it's not at the
Speaker 1: Denver airport like they we've already like uncovered historical documents
Speaker 1: that these exist, Like there's a West Virginia resort that
Speaker 1: secretly had like a massive underground habitat for the president
Speaker 1: and like the leader of the United States in the
Speaker 1: event of a nuclear armageddon that was like there throughout
Speaker 1: the Cold War in case they needed it. And now
Speaker 1: you can like go and take tours of it. But
Speaker 1: because it was like far enough into history, we just
Speaker 1: started like, oh, that's quaint. But there's there's no way
Speaker 1: that like Bezos doesn't have at least like five of
Speaker 1: these already like under construction. But like, yeah, I true,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a very conspirat. I'm not a conspiratory
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, Ze Gang, We've we've been together for
Speaker 1: a long time. I'm not a conspiratorially minded person. But
Speaker 1: this one, I fully like, if you've got evidence that
Speaker 1: it's not true, I'd love to see it, because why
Speaker 1: would you build an airport like that. It's the worst
Speaker 1: airport in the world. It's so weird, it's so far
Speaker 1: away from Denver, it's so like just sprawling and strange.
Speaker 1: They're just counting on that. But then also I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not true. Every going to Denver makes lightheaded
Speaker 1: and gives me a nosebleed. Maybe my brain cells are
Speaker 1: not operating as they were intended while I'm at this airport.
Speaker 1: But I do I believe in the theory. Look up
Speaker 1: the Girl Scouts. That sounds also like a Michael Bay movie,
Speaker 1: The Girl Scouts. No, you gotta find the Girl Scouts.
Speaker 1: Cut to Christina Hendrix, a Girl Scout ner Ford. He's
Speaker 1: being like, I saw it. I saw it. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the like in a post apocalyptic setting, like with people
Speaker 1: like wandering the earth. They just like put a bunch
Speaker 1: of like scary art up around to be like, don't
Speaker 1: come here, this isn't. This isn't where you wanna be
Speaker 1: wandering band of cannibals. That's my loose theory. Yeah, I've seen,
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Might have been TikTok's, but I don't remember.
Speaker 1: At this point, like employees of the Denver Airport seem
Speaker 1: to be conditioned to kind of like lightly engaged with
Speaker 1: this if it's brought up to them, where they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, if you have any information on
Speaker 1: this that's not just like the standard Wikipedia article, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: hit us up if if you work there, if you
Speaker 1: know somebody works there, let us know. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: don't bother me with anything before results page like seventeen
Speaker 1: because I see it. All right, let's take you a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk Elon Musk, and
Speaker 1: we're back. And Elon Musk's Neuralalink turn. He's repeatedly been like,
Speaker 1: this is coming, folks, just any day now, since I
Speaker 1: think twenty sixteen. That's so unlike him, I know, right,
Speaker 1: so on at least four occasions since twenty nineteen, Elon
Speaker 1: Musk has predicted that his medical device company, Neuralink would
Speaker 1: soon start human trials of a revolutionary brain implant to
Speaker 1: treat intractable conditions such as paralysis, blindness. And it seems
Speaker 1: like they just hit a major block in their progress
Speaker 1: because they did finally submit it to the FDA to
Speaker 1: be like all right, like what what do you think guys,
Speaker 1: Like we're good here, right, every everything, this is just
Speaker 1: a formality. We're we're good. We're we're about to start
Speaker 1: jamming these things into people's brains. I like the idea
Speaker 1: that like the in my mind, the um. The way
Speaker 1: to test it is to like put the chip in
Speaker 1: someone's brain and then show them like an Elon musk
Speaker 1: joke tweet and if they laugh, it's working, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you see an Elon tweet and you come at
Speaker 1: least a gallon and then that's how you know it's working. Yes,
Speaker 1: but the agency, the US Food and Drug Administration, rejected
Speaker 1: the application. It's shocking. This is according to seven current
Speaker 1: and former Neuralink employees. They say, it's not it's not happening.
Speaker 1: A big sticking point is the whole jamming a lithium
Speaker 1: battery into your brain thing that seems to trouble them.
Speaker 1: Some of the listed concerns are that wires could migrate
Speaker 1: to other areas of the brain and worries about how
Speaker 1: the device can be removed without damaging brain tissue. So okay,
Speaker 1: so little things. It's like, it's very much the Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: thank you. What why would I ever want to take
Speaker 1: this amazing thing out that just get upgrades, just get
Speaker 1: software updates, like your Tesla. Yeah yeah, Well if you
Speaker 1: have neuralink, will you also being convinced to just run
Speaker 1: off the side of a Cliff, like, I can walk now,
Speaker 1: but I can't recognize semitrucks from a Yeah, well there
Speaker 1: was a sun glare situation and I did run into
Speaker 1: the middle of the four oh five unfortunately. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole culture there is that like they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is just a little bump of the road. We're
Speaker 1: just going to quickly resolve the issues that they brought up.
Speaker 1: But the issues are all like the very first things
Speaker 1: that come to mind when you hear about this prospect.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you're sticking something into a human's brain
Speaker 1: like that. That's that's a mess, Like how are they
Speaker 1: going to overcome that? And it seems like they just
Speaker 1: hadn't hadn't considered that problem carefully enough. And so I
Speaker 1: heard about it. Didn't it kill? Didn't it kill? Like
Speaker 1: fifteen out of twenty three monkeys? Yes that they tested
Speaker 1: it on. Yes, really not a good average. Even if
Speaker 1: it's an ape killing chip, it's also not a good average. Right,
Speaker 1: They're going through monkeys like their printer cartridges, like just
Speaker 1: treating them as a inexhaustible resource. And the culture there
Speaker 1: is that regulators are obstacles to innovation and you have
Speaker 1: to like trick them, So you're you're not like even
Speaker 1: this is not being viewed as like they make some
Speaker 1: good points. It's being viewed as, how do we like
Speaker 1: trick them into giving us, like the the ability to
Speaker 1: do the thing that is going to be most profitable,
Speaker 1: which is how all of Elon Musk's businesses have like
Speaker 1: gotten ship through. I mean it's like we were hearing
Speaker 1: similar stuff with Tesla of like, well, yeah, we're not
Speaker 1: going to fix the problem, We're just going to like
Speaker 1: wait until they're willing to be steamrolled into releasing the products. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's also the company has also gotten shipped from the
Speaker 1: Department of Transportation for illegally transporting dangerous pathogens on chips
Speaker 1: removed from monkey brains without proper containment measures. So it
Speaker 1: just seems like he just like he again like I
Speaker 1: think very wealthy people want to cause the apocalypse, Like
Speaker 1: I think they there's like they've sunk a lot of
Speaker 1: investment into the a post apocalyptic world. Like, yeah, Elon Muski,
Speaker 1: it does probably have a you know, underground bunker on
Speaker 1: in every like major city in the United States, and
Speaker 1: he is like trying to repopulate the globe already with
Speaker 1: you know, all the babies he's having people who look
Speaker 1: like shit. I don't know what this kids look like.
Speaker 1: I just know he looks like shit. Yeah, he really does.
Speaker 1: I know. I said the thing about English major's going
Speaker 1: away not being a big deal, But there was this
Speaker 1: thing I heard a while back where like somebody was
Speaker 1: characterizing the tech leaders, the tech people that we think
Speaker 1: of as like, oh, geniuses in their field, like Musk
Speaker 1: and Bezos and Zuckerberg, as like they're big fans of
Speaker 1: science fiction. But it seems like it seems like they
Speaker 1: experienced science fiction stories like EITHERIR TV movies and go like,
Speaker 1: oh that thing that ruined everything, Let me make one
Speaker 1: of those, right right. They're like their imagination is fired
Speaker 1: by the concept, like somebody gives them the log line
Speaker 1: of the science fiction thing and then they never, like
Speaker 1: bother reading through to see the consequences. They're just like exactly, yeah,
Speaker 1: It's it's just like sort of that that sort of
Speaker 1: like I still think that like English going ways a
Speaker 1: major is a different thing than like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: teaching media literacy and reading comprehension and like that. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes these stories are meant to warn you against doing
Speaker 1: something right yeah, I mean yeah, and like I mean,
Speaker 1: even though you're expanding on like that, just the humanity
Speaker 1: is in general where it's like, yeah, it's not profitable
Speaker 1: to get a history degree, but someone's got to get
Speaker 1: a fucking history degree, like you know, or we are
Speaker 1: really and truly fucked, and it's like, well, it's more
Speaker 1: the issue of I don't know, and and then I
Speaker 1: feel like there is a lot of like gendered aspects
Speaker 1: to like they're not being like to STEM being so
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly male that there was like a push for women
Speaker 1: to get STEM degrees, which makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: but it's like that doesn't need to be at the
Speaker 1: behest of you need people in the damn humanities and
Speaker 1: so that someone can write a banger about Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: I do feel like with this Nurling thing, I worry
Speaker 1: that it's just going to be Tesla all over again,
Speaker 1: where it's just like we're going to be talking about
Speaker 1: these kinds of stories of like it killed every like
Speaker 1: it failed every possible test, and then fast forward six
Speaker 1: months and they're like, but it's coming out for you know, reasons,
Speaker 1: because he has more money, like that he probably spends
Speaker 1: more money on like travel and food than the FDA budget,
Speaker 1: Like personally he probably does. Like the FDAs budget is
Speaker 1: like not that significant, Like the yeah, so I mean
Speaker 1: like that's the thing is that like even with the
Speaker 1: English the history majors, it's like, well, it's about where
Speaker 1: you choose to invest money right as a as a society,
Speaker 1: and like we've left it up two billionaires to tell
Speaker 1: us where to invest money. We haven't always done that,
Speaker 1: but like that is the world we live in now,
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, it's become less probitable to be a
Speaker 1: history or English major because the world is run by
Speaker 1: fucking Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and like that sort
Speaker 1: of that idea that life like does not compute for them.
Speaker 1: So like yeah, we've just let them build a civilization
Speaker 1: in their own image and it's not it's not good.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be bad. Like especially with history.
Speaker 1: It's like we've got to find a way to make
Speaker 1: young people studying history and like studying it in a
Speaker 1: way that is like there is an understanding of who
Speaker 1: is writing history to just have that invested in, because
Speaker 1: it's like if no one understands history, then whatever, it's
Speaker 1: like stuffy here all the time. Then it's just like
Speaker 1: that's intentional. The Elon Musks and Jeff bezos Is of
Speaker 1: the world don't want you to understand history because they're
Speaker 1: like the worst part of it. Yeah, and there's like
Speaker 1: precedent for them. So yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It should be fun, it'll be fun. Do you see
Speaker 1: neuralink being like a status symbol like a tesla is,
Speaker 1: because I'm wondering how that would play out, because it's
Speaker 1: going to be a thing in your head, right. I
Speaker 1: could definitely see a future where having, yeah, having these
Speaker 1: like tech implants is a status symbol and like that.
Speaker 1: There are probably ways to do this that aren't jamming
Speaker 1: an ion battery into a human brain. That will be
Speaker 1: like wearable tech, you know, tech implants that are just
Speaker 1: like under the skin as opposed to like in your brain.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about those guys that put like a
Speaker 1: magnet in their finger. Yeah, so there's like versions of that,
Speaker 1: Like the people have these implants that allow them to,
Speaker 1: you know, do do various things. But I think the
Speaker 1: coolest one like, yeah, so I'm magneting your finger. What
Speaker 1: are they doing with that? Again? I forget what are
Speaker 1: they doing with that. It's I think it's like these
Speaker 1: these folks who like, you know, they'll put like a
Speaker 1: chip in their like wrist so that they can get
Speaker 1: into some you know locked door in their you know,
Speaker 1: research laboratory. But then there are also guys who are
Speaker 1: like putting magnets into their fingertips so that they have
Speaker 1: basically magnetic fingertips and so that they can basically like
Speaker 1: like cosplay as as cyborgs. Yeah, there's also like so
Speaker 1: there's the cochlear implant that like if you've seen like
Speaker 1: the sound of metal or like cochlear implant is like
Speaker 1: an implant that can help people who've lost their hearing
Speaker 1: like begin to hear, or who were born without hearing,
Speaker 1: like be able to hear by like actually interacting with
Speaker 1: like the messages that are being sent to the brain.
Speaker 1: And then there are also like people who are doing
Speaker 1: research in two ways you could like create new senses.
Speaker 1: So like that, there are people who have created a
Speaker 1: thing it's like a vibrating like a vibrating implant that
Speaker 1: I think goes on your tongue. Sometimes they've tried it
Speaker 1: on your back, but it's like anywhere where you have
Speaker 1: a lot of nerve receptors, and it like is sending
Speaker 1: you information that your brain eventually, over time begins to
Speaker 1: be able to like decode automatically. And so they've done
Speaker 1: it with like just always knowing what direction north is,
Speaker 1: Like there was a belt that they tried out where
Speaker 1: it's like always vibrating slightly to the north, and so
Speaker 1: eventually you just get this innate ability to know what
Speaker 1: north is. But there are other things like they've tried
Speaker 1: with like always knowing what's happening with the stock indegs
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Just having a NonStop feed of
Speaker 1: information about like things you want. So it's like adding
Speaker 1: an additional sense on into your body that your brain
Speaker 1: is like an amazing machine and will like learn to
Speaker 1: decode that and just have like a yeah, sixth or
Speaker 1: seventh sense, you know. But I mean that just sounds
Speaker 1: like I can I know, I'm probably stating the obvious.
Speaker 1: I intentionally have not been keeping up with their link
Speaker 1: because it scares me, which is probably bad. But like,
Speaker 1: how can you ensure that that is going to be
Speaker 1: treated ethically? Like I I the FDA is saying this
Speaker 1: is bad for your physical like the goop in your head.
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're doing that, that's great, But if they
Speaker 1: can make it safe for the goop in your head,
Speaker 1: like what kind of I mean, there would have to
Speaker 1: be restrictions put in place of like what can you
Speaker 1: make this thing do versus what you can't? And like
Speaker 1: how much economy and control do you have? But so
Speaker 1: you don't just become a fucking X monkey not you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, And I feel like we are
Speaker 1: not in the best civilization to like handle that sort
Speaker 1: of innovation, I guess would be my point because and
Speaker 1: like the richer you are, the more this way you have,
Speaker 1: not like these things that are in place, like this
Speaker 1: is an example of one of the things that's in
Speaker 1: place to moderate these sorts of innovations that like working,
Speaker 1: but with enough money and enough force over time, like
Speaker 1: I feel like those things won't be able to stand up.
Speaker 1: So it's a little it's a little scary, also scary.
Speaker 1: King Charles's Coronation playlist wish of a transition Jack, Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I've been working on my transitions.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot here. I just really like to
Speaker 1: luxuriate in imagining King Charles being like, can we get
Speaker 1: a Dell. Can we get edge and just being told
Speaker 1: no and goggling popular artists, popular British artist. He's like
Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran, what do we think Spice Girls, Robbie Williams
Speaker 1: and Johnald turned him down. I am disappointed to say,
Speaker 1: good for them. Yeah, I mean it seems pretty clear
Speaker 1: most people don't want to associate themselves with colonialism right now.
Speaker 1: But which wise why Spice Girls? Yeah? Bad pr Yes,
Speaker 1: but they did get and I'm really disappointed in this
Speaker 1: and some of the people in this list. They did
Speaker 1: get Lionel Ritchie, Andrew Lloyd Webber. I'm the list. The list,
Speaker 1: I am happy to say, like the list of people
Speaker 1: they were like, they do have a star studded event
Speaker 1: with Gary Barlow, Mark Owens and Howard Donald. Donald isn't
Speaker 1: the person to do just an assortment of white guy names,
Speaker 1: Mark Owen, Howard Donald. Yes, those are all white guys.
Speaker 1: Those are all the first names. A series of first names. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's so fun. I know a lot of people are
Speaker 1: going to be like, actually, Mark Owen is a great
Speaker 1: artist and that I was really disappointed that Howard Donald.
Speaker 1: I was disappointed to see that he aligned with colonialism.
Speaker 1: You're like, who the fuck is Howard Donald? Also, Kylie
Speaker 1: Minogue is in non. I think Kylie Minogue needs to
Speaker 1: revisit this decision. I really hope that. Yeah, her fans
Speaker 1: pummel the shit out of her on that one. Get
Speaker 1: out of there. I guess I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: Kylie Minogue's politics, and I think I'm proud of that.
Speaker 1: But now, but now I have concerned should be because
Speaker 1: you've worked hard not to know anything about Kylie Minoaku's politics,
Speaker 1: people won't stop talking about it. Yeah, but like if
Speaker 1: he like the way the way we saw him react
Speaker 1: to the pen getting Pennanc getting on his fingers and
Speaker 1: him saying like every stinking time with this thing, it
Speaker 1: was like like I can only imagine like him getting
Speaker 1: the news of Ed Sheeran and adele veiling on being like,
Speaker 1: oh sorry, we got we got a thing at that time.
Speaker 1: So God, just somebody give me some video like there's
Speaker 1: gotta be like that that whole country is under like
Speaker 1: CCTV observation at all times, Like get me an angle
Speaker 1: on the on windsor Square or windsor Palace, because I
Speaker 1: just love watching this guy be disappointed by his own mediocrity.
Speaker 1: If one of these artists was really galaxy braining it,
Speaker 1: I would hope that one of them would sample the
Speaker 1: phone call of them turning down the coronation yeah on
Speaker 1: a future album. Yeah, that would absolutely rock. Absolutely like
Speaker 1: the phone message, like you know that that's being used
Speaker 1: to great effect. And like there's a great Chief Keith
Speaker 1: song from last year that's again like just a long
Speaker 1: fune message from I think it might be a mom
Speaker 1: or grandma just being like very complimentary, but the song
Speaker 1: just fucking rules. Like so like people are doing great
Speaker 1: things with fun messages. Just please record this message and
Speaker 1: and and bring it to us just like us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a skit on the next adele help, I'm just
Speaker 1: being like, I'm sorry, I'm not available. I'm sorry, and yeah, fotball.
Speaker 1: Great story. I've heard about Peter Cook, who the comedian,
Speaker 1: the British comedian, and he was I think most famous
Speaker 1: for being in that the uh the Priest and Princess
Speaker 1: bribes you know, okay manage. Yeah, yeah, very funny guy.
Speaker 1: He's he's like a staple of British comedy and King
Speaker 1: Charles one time invited him to some like uh royal
Speaker 1: event and was like, can you make this date in
Speaker 1: Peter Cook is like, yeah, let me check my calendar
Speaker 1: real quick, and then like flips through and flips through
Speaker 1: and flips through and goes, oh, I'm sorry, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm watching television that night. So he's just like constantly
Speaker 1: getting owned. Yea, that's been his life from yeah. So
Speaker 1: and then he takes it out on on the pens.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Adam, truly a pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: the daily Zeitgeist? Where can people find you? Follow you
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. I'm still using Twitter, so it's
Speaker 1: still there at Adam Bozart. I'm also on Instagram, although
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Speaker 1: But definitely go to Left Handed Radio dot com and
Speaker 1: check out the sketch show I do, and definitely subscribe
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Speaker 1: you'll like they'll be only Charlant. And is there a
Speaker 1: work of media that you've been enjoying. I I was
Speaker 1: looking through my tweet likes and there is one that
Speaker 1: I that I have been like thinking about a lot.
Speaker 1: It's like stuck in my imagination. It's from at kith
Speaker 1: or Jensen and it's a fun thought exercise is to
Speaker 1: transplant the Texas Chainsaw massacre to another state and imagine
Speaker 1: what it would be like Vermont, Delaware, Hawaii. There you go, Jamie.
Speaker 1: Truly a pleasure having you co hosting. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, read you all the good stuff?
Speaker 1: Oh you know a Twitter dot com Still at Jamie
Speaker 1: Loft's help Instagram at Jamie christ Superstar announced today or
Speaker 1: I guess technically yesterday that I'm going to be going
Speaker 1: on tour with You're wrong about for a lot of
Speaker 1: the spring. Going to like fifteen for cities is going
Speaker 1: to be fun. So there's some places are sold up,
Speaker 1: but you should get tickets where there's still not place
Speaker 1: is sold out. I'm really excited. And then yeah, order
Speaker 1: Raw Dog, my book about hot dogs, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to share I kind of I got a two hander
Speaker 1: and both of them they're reading because I can do that.
Speaker 1: The first one I wanted to follow up on yesterday's
Speaker 1: Albert Okura. So yesterday and I showed a book that
Speaker 1: I have called The Chicken Man with the Fifty Year Plan.
Speaker 1: Albert Okura, he's the founder of the Wan Toyo string
Speaker 1: of rotis three chicken restaurants. And then I learned at
Speaker 1: the end of the day at our episode yesterday that
Speaker 1: he just died like a month ago. So I still
Speaker 1: haven't read the book will Report. There's there's more on
Speaker 1: the Okura Report. But I did read his full New
Speaker 1: York He had a lengthy New York Times obituary. He's
Speaker 1: an important man, and I learned some interesting things about him,
Speaker 1: including that first of all, he was the chicken man
Speaker 1: with a fifty year plan. He started flipping burgers and
Speaker 1: expressing interest in making chicken restaurants in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1: So that's what I call a fifty year plan. Sounds
Speaker 1: like hens. Yeah, he had the chicken madness within him.
Speaker 1: He was, but yeah, he was born. His grandparents had
Speaker 1: immigrated from Japan to the US in the nineteen tens.
Speaker 1: His parents had been held in detention camps during World
Speaker 1: War Two. They had like a really I mean, his
Speaker 1: family history is really troubling and complicated, and he was
Speaker 1: I believe, a first generation American and started by flipping
Speaker 1: burgers at Burger King and then like bought up all
Speaker 1: of this real estate on route sixty six, including the
Speaker 1: original McDonald's site, which is why he and then opened
Speaker 1: like an unofficial McDonald's museum. I've been. It's where I
Speaker 1: bought the Chicken Man with the fifty year and it
Speaker 1: is a big room full of happy Meal toys. It's
Speaker 1: like really but they don't charge for entry. And he
Speaker 1: just had like this really vested interest in his chicken
Speaker 1: franchise One Poyo, but also in like preserving like mid
Speaker 1: century twentieth century American history on sixty six. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are like preservationists with Root
Speaker 1: sixty six that are like, this is actually a huge
Speaker 1: loss to our community. Is like one of the only
Speaker 1: business people that was really invested in preserving that period
Speaker 1: of history. Anyways, Um, yeah, rip to my friend Albert o'cura.
Speaker 1: He claims too. There's no way to verify this, but
Speaker 1: I think that that's sort of what the whole book is,
Speaker 1: basically unverified claims that he's making. He claims to have
Speaker 1: cooked over two million chickens in his career, and you
Speaker 1: can feel good or bad about that, but he did
Speaker 1: say it, and rip Albert o'cura. So I guess for
Speaker 1: the second day in a row. I'm recommending The Chicken
Speaker 1: Man with the fifth year. Yeah, yeah, amazing. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien at keyon
Speaker 1: on Twitter hoodboge is Tired of poverty tweeted why would
Speaker 1: you name your kid? Greg? And it's just a it's
Speaker 1: a question that I think we all need to ask
Speaker 1: once you get gregnant? Yeah, exactly, Greg. That was appropriate
Speaker 1: for a Jamie episode. Yeah. Also, I think I saw
Speaker 1: a tweet by somebody being like, when you get pregnant
Speaker 1: from someone named Greg, you are gregnant with no citation,
Speaker 1: and it kind of went off and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's you live long enough. And people are ripping off
Speaker 1: the pet Pignet video. Serious, be serious people that You
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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: Super producer justin what is a song that you think
Speaker 1: people might enjoy? This is a track called Coming Through
Speaker 1: by s Fidelity, who I believe is a Berlin based artist.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a blend of chip tune music in
Speaker 1: European hip hop. I can see this song being on
Speaker 1: the soundtrack to jet Set Radio, which is like a
Speaker 1: rollerblading graffiti game that I used to play on the
Speaker 1: second Dreamcast. So this track is called coming Through by
Speaker 1: S Fidelity and you can find a song on the
Speaker 1: footnotes Rollerblading Graffiti. What a what a combo? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: a good Yeah, that's a powerful word combo. What a
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