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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty six,

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Speaker 1: episode five of dir day lys Geist, a production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into america share consciousness. It's Friday, March four.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K. So maybe I

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Speaker 1: might not have to drink my pa now if Alma

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Speaker 1: Crown is over, Alma Crown's over, Alma Crown's over. That

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Speaker 1: Padrick Lamarn says, I got it, Okay, Hey now you're there. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. That was Curtsy at Gerald Bryce

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined by my

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Speaker 1: special guest co host, a producer behind the scenes on

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Speaker 1: shows like Fake Doctor, Drill Friends, Welcome to our show.

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Speaker 1: You've heard her on Pop Culture, Happy Hour, read her

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Speaker 1: She is the brilliant and talented Joel Money Marvel defender

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Speaker 1: back in the House. Might go to some DC defending

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Speaker 1: day as the Purple Don. Yes, that's good. Oh, you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people have been talking shit about

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Speaker 1: my my stance on Batman. Behind the scenes of this show.

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Speaker 1: I thought that the Riddler played pranks on people, and

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Speaker 1: then caught myself halfway through a sentence, and uh, and

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Speaker 1: it got it got back to Joel. Joel was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I gotta come on here. Tell Miles to

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Speaker 1: take a day. Tell Miles to take a day. I

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Speaker 1: need to talk to Jack about his Batman blasphemy. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say We're gonna talk about it later. I'm very

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Speaker 1: excited about this Batman. But before we get to any

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Speaker 1: of that, Joel, we are thrilled to be joined in

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Speaker 1: our third seat by very funny and talented podcaster, author,

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Speaker 1: and TV personality. She's the author of the book Tropical

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Speaker 1: Atti Are Encouraged and other phrases that Scare me and

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Speaker 1: hosts the podcasts Alison Rosen is your new best friend Childish,

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Speaker 1: which is a podcast for parents and people with parents

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Speaker 1: that your co host with Greg That Simmons and Upworthy Weekly.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome the hilarious, the brilliant Alison Roses. Hello, I always, always,

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Speaker 1: always love joining you guys on this podcast. Is always

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Speaker 1: the highlight of whatever week slash month that it is

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Speaker 1: what I'm on here and now I'm about to embarrass

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Speaker 1: myself because you guys very clearly laid out that jack

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Speaker 1: You embarrassed yourself when you did this. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know what kind of nihilism is propelling me to say this,

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Speaker 1: But the Riddler didn't play tricks on people? What no

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Speaker 1: to solve riddle? He's like the He's like the Zodiac,

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Speaker 1: but just like a little bit you know, funnier feel

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Speaker 1: but that feels like pranks in the form of questions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his whole existence as a prank on all of us.

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Speaker 1: But did the Joker ever have like some clownish like

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a townfrience of crime, like you gotta

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Speaker 1: think about like Batman started in we really started in

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Speaker 1: in the sixties, and so in that area you have

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Speaker 1: like a lot of goofy criminals running around, like you know,

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Speaker 1: we smash them into a giant pie or like you know,

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Speaker 1: Batman has bat repellent. But over the years they sort

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Speaker 1: to Heath Ledgers Joker and this is sort of our

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Speaker 1: excited about this movie. Yeah I love a good Dano

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Speaker 1: to like a great movie or why is you? Why

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Speaker 1: in the show that I just invented this morning called

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Speaker 1: What's making You Happy? Not by any other podcast, not

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Speaker 1: a show that Joel regularly appears on called if Anything.

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Speaker 1: They stole it from me. You invented happiness right before.

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Speaker 1: People were searching for a way to describe that feeling.

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Speaker 1: They were like, well, what is it? Frivolity? Is it? Like?

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Speaker 1: It's the opposite of sad? Sometimes it involves smiling. I

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Speaker 1: just gotta back to the drawing board. What is this sensation?

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't realize, like I asked the question,

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Speaker 1: can't remember which direction the vial of acid flew, whether

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Speaker 1: It haunted me almost as much as watching Fantasy Island.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Well, we're gonna talk about some other

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Speaker 1: You know, Russia is because they don't care about human

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Speaker 1: life or you know, they're they're just slowly bombing everything

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Speaker 1: stuff that makes is making us happy. All of that

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Speaker 1: plenty more. But first, Allison, we do like to ask

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Speaker 1: our guest, what is something from your search history. I

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Speaker 1: recently searched watermelon sheets because I have two little boys.

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Speaker 1: set the boundary instead of not. Yeah, that's why I

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Speaker 1: say I think that in a way I might be

427
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: directing this more at social media than at real life

428
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: because it's these TikTok's and these you know things on

429
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Speaker 1: Instagram that I find myself looking at where I get

430
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Speaker 1: frustrated because it's like, you know, just tons of things

431
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: online where it's like, here's what actual boundaries look like,

432
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: and I read it and it just it's like this

433
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Speaker 1: comes is coming off so unnecessarily harsh to me. And

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Speaker 1: again that might be a meet thing. Yeah, I think

435
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 1: it's I think it's an every everyone thing. But all right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and

437
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Speaker 1: talk about the news. Who and we're back, and yeah,

438
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: during the break, we were just talking about how much

439
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: we love the news so good. It's only filled with

440
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: nice things and it's uplifting really because we hope for

441
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: the future. Soft The January six Commission, in trying to

442
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: get a look at like thousands of pages of emails

443
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: between Trump and one of his advisors, did kind of

444
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: indicate that they think they will have an argument for

445
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: criminal charges against Trump. And you know, this is being

446
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: treated as a big deal. I like, it could be

447
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: a very big deal if they can like make charges stick.

448
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I do always want to say, having like gotten swept

449
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: up in the Russia stuff in the in the early

450
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Speaker 1: days of the Trumble administration, Like we're the still very

451
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: early stages and we're only hearing from the people building

452
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: the case and not from the like defense attorneys explaining

453
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Speaker 1: why the case is going to be hard to make

454
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Speaker 1: and which is what got in trouble there is like

455
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: you just hear like people being like, well, it could

456
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Speaker 1: be this, and then it gets this momentum that said

457
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation of eight thing we all know Trump

458
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: was doing because he was doing it publicly, trying to

459
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: stop the peaceful transfer of power, with occasional details facts

460
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: flipping out. I feel like it it is lining up

461
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: to be probably the biggest thing standing in the way

462
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: of a Trump nomination or election because what he did

463
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: was illegal, Like the attempt was to overturn the results

464
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: of an election and prevent the peaceful transfer of power.

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00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: Like we heard the cause with the Georgia election official

466
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: where he's asking them to like find votes for him,

467
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: like fucking boss tweet. So I don't know, like whatever

468
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: the emails reveal, it just feels like as the way

469
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: the timeline shaping up and the pace of this, it's

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Speaker 1: at least a major liability for his campaign and for

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party to be dealing with. But are you

472
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Speaker 1: thinking it's gonna sway opinion about him or are you

473
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Speaker 1: thinking logistically it's going to get in the way if

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Speaker 1: he is put away because my feeling well, first of all,

475
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Speaker 1: let me say I have now come back to a

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Speaker 1: place that didn't bring me happiness because I wasn't even

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Speaker 1: and I don't know where I guess I have my

478
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: head in the sand. I wasn't even thinking that he was,

479
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: that he was like a real potential shoeing to be

480
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: back in office until I came on this very show

481
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Speaker 1: and you, Jack and Miles were the ones who are like, oh, yeah,

482
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: we think it's gonna happen, And I said, no, I

483
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: have been trying to ignore the fact that my because

484
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: my husband is like a real uh doomsday profit about

485
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff too, and I just try to

486
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: not pay attention to it. And then I was like,

487
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: now there's too many voices saying it. So anyway, I

488
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: feel like the people that want him re elected, nothing

489
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: is going to stop them from wanting him re elected.

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Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, they love the fact

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't follow the rules, that he's a real

492
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: shitty guy. That he'll do whatever it takes. So I

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00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: just don't think even irrevocable proof that he has broken

494
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: the law, they're fine with that. They love that, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think that's going to be a problem.

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: But logistically, if he you know, if he is unable

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Speaker 1: to be on the ticket because of convictions against him

498
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: and stuff, that could be a good Yeah, yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: Like I I don't think like and the the other

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00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: thing that is like kind of cresting at this moment.

501
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: And I don't think the January six investigation is cresting necessarily,

502
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: but like it does feel like people are kind of

503
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Speaker 1: having second thoughts on the whole authoritarianism thing that everybody

504
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: seems so hot on during Trump's administration, on on that

505
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: side of the political spectrum, and like Putin and now

506
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: it's like you know, China and India, it's like that,

507
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: it's basically like dividing the world on on a axis

508
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: of like authoritarianism versus not. And you know, Trump still,

509
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Speaker 1: even though he has said a couple of critical things

510
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Speaker 1: about the invasion of Ukraine, it still feels like he,

511
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Speaker 1: you know, his record kind of speaks for itself on

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Speaker 1: that one. So I can also see that kind of

513
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Speaker 1: coming into play on the public opinion side. But that said,

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Speaker 1: I I don't doubt that there's a massive kind of

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Speaker 1: under current of authoritarianism that is still there that the

516
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Speaker 1: mainstream media is still unable to detect through polling, and

517
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Speaker 1: that will get him a shocking number of votes. I

518
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Speaker 1: want to be hopeful, but it just sort of like

519
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Speaker 1: you when you were talking about the you know, original

520
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Speaker 1: Russia stuff. It just I feel like Charlie Brown with

521
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: the football, Like I just feel like I'm not going

522
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Speaker 1: to do it again. I'm not going to get my

523
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: hopes up again about any of this shaking out the

524
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Speaker 1: way it feels like it should. Yeah, depending on how

525
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Speaker 1: far they get into actually prosecuting him. I wonder how

526
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: long till he flees to Russia. I mean there's something

527
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: we know that like Trump is a coward, He's not.

528
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: He's not marking with his people. He's not going to jail.

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Speaker 1: So I think that'll be interesting to see a former

530
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Speaker 1: president on the lamb from the US government. Could be exciting. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: the reality show. I feel like he would think he's

532
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: above it because he has been to this point, Like

533
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: he would think he's above it. Until he is handcuffed

534
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: and in a prison though, But I also feel like

535
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: he probably is above it because of just how America operates,

536
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: and he's oligarc and used to be president. He probably

537
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: can pull a lot of strings to protect him. I

538
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: just don't know if it will be enough to make

539
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: it so that he is still a likely presidential Canada.

540
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: But who the fun knows. I've been surprised so many times.

541
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: I've also heard people talking about, like how the Russia

542
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: invading after Everyone's like, but it doesn't make sense that

543
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: they would invade, Like you can't like no way they

544
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: would like that. It kind of echoes or like rhymes

545
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: with the election and just this world where like the

546
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: wildest storyline like narrative, that direction that things can go

547
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: is what happens because I don't know, yeah, it's a

548
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: realtory visit at that time. And then like we were

549
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: watching Cay and Peel the other day and there it's

550
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: like they do a bit where it's like Hillary talking

551
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: to Obama and they're like salty with each other for

552
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, Obama basically quote stealing Hillary's time in the

553
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: office and now she's like it now it's my turn

554
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: and it was like there was no thought that Trump

555
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: could win at all. And it is sort of weird

556
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: to see people sort of still have that mindset of like, oh,

557
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: but definitely not again now because we've learned our lesson.

558
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: It's like it has a lesson been learned? Or did

559
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: a couple of people go to jail for a few

560
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: months for trying to overthrow the government? I mean, I'm

561
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: not calling that lesson learned. Yeah, no, definitely not all right,

562
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: and then just kind of the update and this is

563
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of all over the place, but just to acknowledge it.

564
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Like the thing that people seem to be saying about

565
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Russia's invasion of Ukraine is that like militarily, like it's

566
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: going badly for them, but it's also like they don't

567
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: give a funk. They're just slowly rolling forward doing war

568
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: crimes to get everybody out of the way by like

569
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Speaker 1: bombing civilian targets, and that has been their strategy in

570
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: the past, and it's just a matter of time before

571
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Speaker 1: they take over the entire country. So militarily that's it's bleak.

572
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Speaker 1: Over one million people have fled Ukraine like two which

573
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: that's a huge human rights travesty. There's also we're hearing

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Speaker 1: about like this being a two front war and then

575
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: the economic sanctions being sort of the most drastic and

576
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: impactful that we've ever seen in the modern world, where

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00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: they basically just like turned the entire economy off, like

578
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Western powers to to to a certain degree. Their stock

579
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: market still hasn't opened up. They're like people have limits

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00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: on the amount of money they can get out. People

581
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: are fleeing and being stopped at the border, and there's

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00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: like reporting I'll just read from I think it was

583
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: an AP journalist was saying that, like, yeah, so life

584
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: in Russia is deteriorating extremely rapidly. So many of my

585
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: friends are packing up and leaving the country. Their cards

586
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: are blocking huge lines for a t M S, rumors

587
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: that borders will close soon. What have we done? How

588
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: did we not stop him earlier? So it it seems like, yeah,

589
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: from from inside the country, another quota economy is going

590
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: to hell. So it does seem like it's you know,

591
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: we we already spoke about the U. S u. S.

592
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: Economic sanctions in countries like Afghanistan that are absolutely you know,

593
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: devastating and causing loss of human life. But this is

594
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: sort of seeing that sort of sped up and made

595
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: even more dramatic by just having the coordination of everybody

596
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: in the world. So it's and I think some people

597
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: are looking at this and being like this, you know,

598
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: this is very drastic and concerned about like how Putin responds,

599
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: which I feel like is the thing that is out there.

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00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like we haven't really talked much about

601
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: on the show, but it is does seem to be

602
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: at the center of like the zeitgeist and how people

603
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: are thinking about the world right now. It's just really

604
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: awful that the people are caught in the middle because,

605
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: as you've pointed out, he doesn't care about the people.

606
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't care about his people, So it's not what

607
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have the desired effect, right, It's yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a larger there's a long history of

609
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Putin and Russia historically being much more willing to let

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Speaker 1: their people die and suffer in order to accomplish their

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00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: overall objectives. Right, that's the military That seems to be

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00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: their military strategy this time and always has been. But

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Speaker 1: let me rephrase, I don't mean to say he doesn't

614
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: care about his people, but but maybe he doesn't what

615
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean to say, is the cost of humans suffering.

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00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't feel is top of mind for him. He's

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00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: made peace with that. Yeah, No, I think you're absolutely right. Yeah,

618
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, he's not concerned with other people

619
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: or I mean, because otherwise, why would you just work

620
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: into Ukraine. I also think that like revolution, as we

621
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: understand it is so different with a nuclear option. Yeah,

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: you know right. I mean it's one thing for you know,

623
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: um an all powerful ruler to move against the best

624
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: needs of his people and and kind of go on

625
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: a conquering spree. I mean, history has thousands of those,

626
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: and we've seen sort of how we deal with that.

627
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Either a bunch of folks come together and tackle it,

628
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: or the people bring out the guillotines. It's an entirely

629
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: different thing when he's got power to push a button

630
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: and technically no one can object to that on his side.

631
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's so much to think about. I've

632
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: caught myself having like the doomsday scenario, I mean, particularly

633
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: living in like the economic heartbeat of America. It's not

634
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: a great vibe doomsday scenario being World War three, like

635
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: we all vaporize. Yeah, I mean just in the nuclear

636
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: option period, Like, I mean, yes, it's one thing to

637
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: like if we were to enter a technical like world

638
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: war where we have a battles being fought across different countries, like,

639
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Speaker 1: that's awful and the death tolls of those are just

640
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: tremendous and unthinkable. But the nuclear option, I think just

641
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: because it has such enduring effects on wherever that ship

642
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: lands is. I mean, it's catastrophic, it's alter it literally

643
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: scars and alters a place for infinity. It's truly a

644
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: horrifying thought that we have someone who might not be

645
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: in full capacity of their brain, who is angry, who

646
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: is already making these what people thought would be impossible choices. Yeah,

647
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: that he that he can at any time just aside, Well,

648
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: if you guys, then I'm just going to take out

649
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: a city. Yeah. Should we try to set some boundaries

650
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: with him? This is what happens. Yeah, this is what

651
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: happens when you don't set boundaries. What do you guys

652
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: think is his goal? That's something that Daniel, my husband,

653
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: and I have talked about, like does he want the

654
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: old borders or is does he want to you know,

655
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: annex and accumulate and take over as much as he can.

656
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: Does he want to take over the world, And I

657
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: think it's first restore Russia to previous glory that he

658
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: believes it once held as from that includes lands and

659
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: its finances, that includes global power, and then I think

660
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: at once, if he were to ever achieve just that goal,

661
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: then yeah, I don't think there's any end to his

662
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: wanton desire to rule. And I think, you know, being

663
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: a toxic man finds the country. I really think that

664
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: his idea is just like, I deserve to rule this sin,

665
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: so I'll take it by force. I mean, I think

666
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: he has more in common with Trump than we like

667
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: to imagine in terms of like his motivations. I don't

668
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: know if you've watched the videos where he goes and

669
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: like plays hockey against professional hockey players and like they're

670
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: all like pretending to not be able to stop him

671
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: because he's like so good at seven year old man

672
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: against the nineteen year old They're like, oh, sir, you're

673
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: so strong. Yeah. I think I think there's a lot

674
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: of like you know, individual ship tied in. I also

675
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: don't want to make it seem like he is completely

676
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: failing at his initial like crazy psychopathic mission, because like

677
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: as the producer, Justin just pointed out in the In

678
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: the um christ As super producer Justin just pointed on

679
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: the chat, most Russians still believe it's you know, the

680
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: US and NATO they're causing this, and it's you know,

681
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: the I think in some ways a lot there's a

682
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: lot of articles coming out today being like China's really

683
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: regret and becoming like friends with Putin. But I think

684
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: this also like they've also had to like you know,

685
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: abstain from votes condemning it. And it does from a

686
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: military standpoint, like create this alliance of China, Russia, India

687
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: that at least, you know, starts to put like move

688
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: things in a direction that is pretty terrifying and probably

689
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: good for Russia in the long term. Wait, most Russians, okay,

690
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I haven't read this article. Most Russians believe it's the

691
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: US is fault. Still, according to New York Times, most

692
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: Russians believe it's our fault that the there's a war

693
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: with Ukraine, or they believe the sanctions are our fault.

694
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: I think if there's a war, the war is caused

695
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: by the US, like trying to put Ukraine in NATO

696
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: or bring Ukraine into NATO, which is seen as like

697
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: a military like area front to Russia, um, which you know,

698
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: like that's there's definitely which doesn't even that the fact

699
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: that they would then invade Ukraine, because if I'm understanding correctly,

700
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: because we refuse to say we're not we we we're

701
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: not going to bring them in, like that doesn't even

702
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: make sense, as like, okay, then we're going to invade.

703
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: That doesn't even like makes it's not even logic, all right,

704
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: he needed a a thing that caused it, right, he

705
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: needed like the inciting incident from the war, and he

706
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: couldn't come up with one, so he like did some

707
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: like half as like Nazi claiming their Nazis. Also, he

708
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: owns the media, so he's like there's just pump out

709
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: a storyline repeatedly. You know, when you're not getting a

710
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: lot of outside information, you know you're gonna some people

711
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: will believe what they're told. And there's obviously a subsect

712
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: in Russia that is against this war that understands that

713
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: it's not the logical choice moving forward. But at the

714
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: same time, like there's just he's so much power and

715
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: reach in his own country that it's kind of hard

716
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: to come back that from like an outsider perspective. So

717
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: according to Russians, they're being told this is stopping a

718
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: global war. Yeah yeah, and they're being told by clips

719
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: of Tucker Carlson. So that's not it's time. All right,

720
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk

721
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: about some pop culture stuff, and we're back. I don't

722
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: know that there's the Kanye video that dropped yesterday. I

723
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, so so I haven't watched, Joel. You

724
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: were saying it's pretty upsetting. I mean, it's Listen. My

725
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: first thought is, okay, when was the last time the

726
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: celebrity had an issue with betting somebody in our an

727
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: artistic expression. It's Kathy Griffith when she held the decapitated

728
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: head of Trump, which I thought was a hoot and

729
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: a half. I didn't see it as threatening. I understood

730
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: to some extent. You know, you're not supposed to like

731
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: paint pictures or or like produce images of violence against

732
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: the president. But then, you know, I remember Obama being

733
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: lynched in effigy and a lot of early parades that

734
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: were anti Obama. So you know, here we are art

735
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: and criticizing it and sort of trying to come to

736
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: some conclusions about what it means if I separate the

737
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: fact that Pete Davidson is a real person who's still

738
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: in his twenties and just looking at us an art

739
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: piece of Like, here's a guy who essentially blew up

740
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: his own relationship, is going through a lot with his

741
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: baby mama and the kids, and the incredible intensity that

742
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: his name. Who has bipolar and is you know either

743
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I like where he's at working on it.

744
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I do know mental

745
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: illness is not an excuse for your actions. You still

746
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: have to be responsible for them, um speaking of somebody

747
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: with multiple mental illnesses. That being said, like the rage

748
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: is palpable. The art is good, not Morley but just

749
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: not morally but just in a this black and white claimation,

750
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: part claimation, part live action video is interesting. It evokes

751
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: a very clear emotion. It is I think the run

752
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: just again just from an artistic prospect, like the rhymes

753
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: scheme hits. The visuals of what he's trying to depict

754
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: works on the flip side of that, they are like

755
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: real people involved, and Kanye, like many celebrities of his

756
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: will I will include a Taylor Swift in this understands

757
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: that when they say something about somebody, their audience takes

758
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: that to heart. Nicki Minaj fans of the same way,

759
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: and as celebrity who have to be aware of like

760
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: who are my fans and what are they capable of?

761
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: What have we seen them do before? And I do

762
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: think that Kanye sort of rating this medtage of like

763
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: get Pete Davidson. It's not direct, it's not it's not

764
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: it's not a direct message, but it's definitely there subliminally,

765
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: and I think it can impact some of his younger

766
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: and more impressionable fans. If I were Kim, I could

767
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: see being afraid like this is. And we talked prior

768
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: to recording. If this were a private citizen, like there

769
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: would be a good reason to call the police. But

770
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: he's just posting pictures of like killing my new partner.

771
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand. What's happening is very frightening. We have

772
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: children involved, who you know, don't need any of this

773
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: in their life. Yeah, and so from that it's it's

774
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: hard to I think on the one hand, like as

775
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: a person, I'm pretty I don't even want to say

776
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: appalled because I've been an emotional state where you're just like, ah,

777
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: the rage. But I do wish that there was any

778
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: kind of deeper thought than just here's my rage plane

779
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: on the page, you know, if there was. Honey's artistic

780
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: depths are very vast. He has the capacity to sit

781
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: down and fully articulate himself when he wants to, and

782
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: I think this is just reactionary and because of that,

783
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I think it has the potential to be a dangerous message.

784
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's yeah, I mean see. And and finally,

785
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: just that the like decapitated image of Pete sometimes has

786
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: like a cartoonish vibe where he's like sprinkling seeds over

787
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: and growing roses that I then think he puts on

788
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: pizza own casket. It's like very strange. But then there's

789
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: other moments where the sculption, the lighting, it looks pretty authentic.

790
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: And that's again in the same way that I think

791
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: there was like an uproar against eminem when he was

792
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: talking a lot about like making whole songs and very

793
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: articulated audio designs of murdering his then wife. There comes

794
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: blind where you're like, yeah, there's just there's a point

795
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: where you as if you are like, oh, I don't

796
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: wish death on this person, and I don't want to

797
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: be a part of anything that might lead to the

798
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: death of an individual. At the same time, like, yeah,

799
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: artistic expression, man, it's it's a lot, and I shudder

800
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: to like, you know, try to contain that in somebody,

801
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know. That's definitely what they said about

802
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: Kathy Gonna be so confused. According to the talking points

803
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 1: around the Kathy Griffin, he's not Yeah, yeah, I haven't

804
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: seen it. The whole thing is claimation, like there's no

805
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: actual pictures. Some of it is I believe it's the

806
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: game who is also on the song. Yeah, his part

807
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: is live action, and then some partial like the actual

808
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: parts with like the Pete Davidson head are all claimation.

809
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: What's interesting is to think and I have obviously haven't

810
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: seen it yet. What's interesting is to think about how

811
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: many people were involved in the making of it, and

812
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, knew exactly what was was they were creating,

813
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: and I wonder what their thoughts about it were. Well,

814
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: Kanye team has no problem. Like a few years ago,

815
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: you might remember, like he did a video with him

816
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: in bed with a bunch of lookalikes that people he's

817
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: had different types of interactions with. So there's a Taylor

818
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: Swift look alike in, there's a Kim look like. I'm

819
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's a chemical like you're not actually Kim

820
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other people, And I look this.

821
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: His private and public life are not separate. You know,

822
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: he's very He's become very famous for just posting people's tweets,

823
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: which is like, stop tweeting Kanye, he will just like

824
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: screen grab it and post it on his Instagram. So yeah,

825
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't when I think about artists in the past

826
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: who lived that way without separating anything from the private

827
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: to public life, there's such a visceral desire to consume

828
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: that person's life and sort of live the second hand

829
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: existence next to them. Think about like an Andy Warhol

830
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: tight and everybody wants to go be part of Andy

831
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: Warhol's clan and like get painted by him or whatever

832
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: tried to assassinate him. Yeah, because it breeds obsession. And

833
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: if that line isn't blurred, then there should be, and

834
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: I think probably made much worse by social media. There's

835
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: there's the line of I'm an individual and you're an

836
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: individual who do not actually know each other becomes so blurred.

837
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: Particularly you know, Knnie courts his fans a lot in

838
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: this like I would say, like the third sort of

839
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: act of his career as we know it's so far.

840
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: He has like a lot of private events. You can

841
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: only listen to his album if you buy a specific

842
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: device upon which you can listen to it. Like it's

843
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: very closed off and removed from everyone else, and so

844
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: it creates this sort of like cult minded mentality. And

845
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm being superfluous when I say that.

846
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: I really think that if you look at the design

847
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: of his clothes, all muted tones, all one look like

848
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of space for individuality. Either you're

849
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: a part of the Kanye train or you're not. And

850
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: while that makes for extremely loyal fans and consistent revenue,

851
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: I do think that there's an aspect of be the

852
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: has to look at how you're influencing your fans and

853
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: and examining what they do and condemn when it's gone

854
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: too far. And I will ever see that out of you.

855
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: And I also just don't think that he is fully

856
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: in his right mind now, and that's scary. Do you

857
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: think he's endangering Pete Davidson and Kim I do. I do.

858
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's in the same way that

859
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: I thought. It's hard to because I've gotten caught up

860
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: in this before. Like I thought The Joker was an

861
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: irresponsible movie when it first came out. Now I just

862
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: think it's kind of dumb and silly. But we were

863
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: so heavy into the thrones of Trump and that whole

864
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: like Proud Boy's era, where it was just so intense

865
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: and very scary. You know, I have friends in Los

866
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: Angeles being assaulted at gas stations at the time because

867
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: they looked littin next like that's very intense. But in

868
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like it was a piece

869
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: of art that didn't have much to say and nothing

870
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: came out of it. But did that take away from it?

871
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if art is dangerous or if it's

872
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: the interpreting ations and the actions people choose to come to.

873
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, there is there's Kanye saying I want Pete

874
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: Davidson dead, which is, you know, a horrible thing to

875
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: say and also smacks of um domestic abuse. You know,

876
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: you can't if somebody leaves you goes out for someone O,

877
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: you can't attack the new person there with. That's domestic violence.

878
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: It's it's a terrible thing, and it happens a lot,

879
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: and oftentimes execalates to violence against women. All of that

880
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: is very scary, but it's not a direct threat, and

881
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: therefore I'm not comfortable saying like this is enacting violence

882
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: because at this point in time, it's just an artistic expression. Yeah,

883
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: I told I hear you. And the question of like

884
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: with whom does the responsibility lie and it's and it's like, so,

885
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: du I totally get what you're saying, because it's so

886
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: dangerous to want to contain art. But at the thing, yeah,

887
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: I get that, But at the same time, there's something

888
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: more here that feels worrisome. Yeah. As a third party

889
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: outside of all this, like I think at this point

890
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: in time, my only goal is, like I hope Kim

891
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: is doing the right thing she needs to to protect

892
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: herself and her children. And as always I'm hoping there's

893
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: somebody and Connie's camp he really loves him, who is like, hey, man,

894
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: like we can we can help get you, like whatever

895
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: you need. You have all of the access and money

896
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: and funds, like you don't have to be in this

897
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: much as much pain as that song is conveying, you

898
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: don't have to live with that. You could be doing

899
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: other things with your time in your life. It's precious,

900
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: it's a minimal. What would you like to be doing It?

901
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: Can't just be chasing after him. That's got to be exhausting.

902
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, dude, should we close out with

903
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: a couple of things that are making us happy? Oh? God, Yeah,

904
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: it's been a downer day, sorry listening to drag my

905
00:53:53,080 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: ass Batman, even though I'm also excited for for it.

906
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Know what you're excited, you feel good about, and I

907
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: got a little time. So here we go. Okay, Batman,

908
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: some of you he followed me at all to other spaces,

909
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: you understand. Like Batman is my earliest memory, my the

910
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: very earliest memory I can access is watching Batman the

911
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: animated series on the couch with my dad and my

912
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: brother and my mom. I have been obsessed. I too.

913
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: Allison was a dark goth child. I really liked learning

914
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: about like mummification, and then somebody was like, I had

915
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of instruments of torture back in the day,

916
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to learn about all

917
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: of them, and Batman was like the first character who

918
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: I was introduced to who experienced genuine ankst right his

919
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: parents were murdered, and I really think that started my

920
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: love of like Victorian literature and they're very obsessed with death.

921
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: I just like I loved that here was this guy

922
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: who was channeling all of his hurt into trying to help.

923
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: But then, like later, as my love with bat And

924
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: continued to foll was like, Oh, he's really channeling his

925
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: hurt into more hurt. And then you get into the

926
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: thought process of like, here's a billionaire with access to everything,

927
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: and he chooses to use his time punching people in

928
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: dark alleys, And then there's the idea of like, oh,

929
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: vengeance and what does that mean and where does that

930
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: become like a toxic trait? And the more I think

931
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: about Batman and the way he's taken a tragedy and

932
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: allowed it to consume himself, I can't not love that character.

933
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: It's so dark, it's so self destructive. And then he

934
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: creates like a faux family around him. I love my

935
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: chosen family and have a very tight knit collection of

936
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: people that I love who spend holidays within stuff my

937
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: my actual boo family is great to love them, but

938
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: chosen family so important that people choose to come and

939
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: be with you and love you and see you through

940
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: difficult times. And then on top of all of that,

941
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: it's housed in Gotham. Maybe the most epics, like if

942
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: Chicago and New York became a hybrid city, which is

943
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: honestly where I would choose to live if it or reality.

944
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: It's got blimps and l trains and it's dark but

945
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: also very gothic in structure. In the anime series that

946
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: has a red sky, it feels like it's on another planet.

947
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: And all of this essentially boils down into Batman is

948
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: a badass and he lives in the most badass city.

949
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: And now this movie comes along and they're like, we're

950
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: gonna add sex. Whoa, guys, that is the bast combination.

951
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk Marvel is a dominant

952
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: cape and cowl like space right now, which is fair. Again,

953
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: as I always say, Disney has earned the praise. They've

954
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: done amazing. No one's ever done this before. That being said,

955
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: it's still Disney and they got to be squeaky clean. Okay,

956
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: your cap is fine, he got blue eyes. He believes

957
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: in truth, justice in the American way. Kudos. I want

958
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: to see a guy who believes in blood on his fist, okay.

959
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: I want to see villains that never pull their punches.

960
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: There's no altruism in any of these villains, Like, we're

961
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: not Panos snaps because he was like, well, maybe I

962
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: can make it better. I'll just do a horrible thing

963
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: and take that on my shoulders. Is that psychotic? Yes?

964
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: Does he believe he has altruistic values? He does? Okay, fine,

965
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: I get it. Everyone's trying to do good again. What

966
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: if we just came to a world where bad guys

967
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: were just real bad people, just awful to their core,

968
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: didn't I love living in the world of Like, I'm

969
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: from Chicago, one of the most politically corrupt places in

970
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: the world. Give us some political corruption beyond just oh,

971
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: like we're with Hydra, Okay, we get it. Nazis terrible.

972
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't see the guy who's like, yeah, I did

973
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: close down that, We're finished. I can build a parking lot.

974
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: What of it. They're on the street. Two bad kids.

975
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Should have kept your parents, Like I just it's it

976
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: feels more fantastic at this point than aliens. Right, It's

977
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: it's both steeped in realism and so the extreme of

978
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: what you can never know one is putting on a

979
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: latex batsuit and going out to kick ass because it

980
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. But what if someone did. You want

981
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: to see how that played out. First of all, speak

982
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: for yourself. On No One's going out. I forgot that

983
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: you had the secret costume interfacement ready to go. That's

984
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: my bad, Jack. Yeah, we've seen that in the Pirate

985
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: costume right next to each other. But yeah, that and

986
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: then casting Zoe. But we have a black catwoman again.

987
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: The world is right to thank you, and they're gonna

988
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: fun and it's gonna be great. Um, we need sex

989
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: in superhero movies. Give it to us. I just I

990
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: can't tell you, and I haven't been this buzzed, like

991
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: I was really excited for spider Man, like Spider Man is,

992
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: who doesn't love Peter Parker like so charming, love that kid.

993
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: But Batman is my guy, and he ain't been done

994
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: right in a long time. I'm sorry. I'm not a

995
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: ben athlete Batman, stand. I get it. You guys love him.

996
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm happy that you have him, But it wasn't doing

997
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: anything for me. I think Robert Pattinson can me By

998
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: matt My Batman. I'm looking forward to having him. Yeah,

999
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: just like real goff, like go real, real hard golf

1000
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: on it. You so you didn't like the sex scene

1001
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: from The Spider Man with like all four Spider Man

1002
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: and uh, you know when it got to the DP scene,

1003
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a little much. Uh. I

1004
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: wanted me to go back to the squeaky green it

1005
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: used to be. I think this is going to work

1006
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: on a different level. Plus it's got um oh my gosh,

1007
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: I can't think of his name. Andy serkis in it,

1008
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: and whenever that guy shows up, amazing things happened. Has

1009
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: not been in a bad series yet. His selection choice

1010
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: is superior in Hollywood. I have nothing but faith, Allison.

1011
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of p the well you're thing that you're excited

1012
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: about is Pam and Tommy. Oh yes, I have been

1013
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: very into Pam and Tommy. I am not. I didn't

1014
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: watch this week's episode yet, but the I watched the

1015
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: first episode and I was like, I'm so into this.

1016
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 1: And then I watched the second episode and I thought,

1017
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm over this, and then every subsequent episode

1018
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: I've been I'm like, no, I'm not. I can't. I

1019
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: cannot watch this fast enough. It's a real guilty pleasure.

1020
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: I have no attention span these days except for this show.

1021
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: I think it might only be half an hour. It

1022
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: goes by very quickly. So it is a guilty pleasure

1023
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: in that I saw the headline of an article. I

1024
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: did not read the whole article, but I think the

1025
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: gist I'm getting is that because pam the real one,

1026
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: did not consent, did not give her a oh wait,

1027
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: it's an hour apparently. What what show was I watching? Anyway?

1028
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: Who cares? There's some show that I was like, I

1029
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: can't do this. I'm getting to fifty something like, very

1030
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: different length running time. That's so odd, streaming that is weird. Yeah,

1031
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: it's not like the every chapter in a novel has

1032
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: to be the same length, you know. I mean, just

1033
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: the magic trick that is transforming Lily, James and Sebastian

1034
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: stand into Pamela and Tommy is amazing because they do

1035
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: look like it's like spitting it on prosthetics. Yes, it

1036
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: needed to be done. It's it's amazing, And I didn't

1037
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: know whatever I thought. I knew about that story. I

1038
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: didn't know that many of the details. Seth Rogan is

1039
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: great and but anyway, the article so so the real

1040
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Pamela Anderson did not consent to her life story being told.

1041
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: So I think that I think there's I feel like

1042
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: I read something about like, essentially it's kind of re

1043
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: traumatizing her for this to be told, so really we

1044
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't be watching it. So I feel guilty about the

1045
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: fact that I'm watching it, although, like I said, I

1046
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: only read the headline. I didn't read the whole article,

1047
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: so maybe it didn't even say that. But I have

1048
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: mixed feelings about the fact that I'm enjoying it. But

1049
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it nonetheless recommend that that's kind of the

1050
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: gits some people the and I'm paraphrasing a quote right now,

1051
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: but essentially that she was like shocked and a little

1052
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: disturbed that this whole thing was going to be rehashed. Um.

1053
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: I just sort of wishally had in her the screeners

1054
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: before they aired it, because I think she might have

1055
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: been comforted by the fact that apparently, at least it

1056
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: seems to a lot of reviewers that they're trying to

1057
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: make her out to be this feminist icon and to her, yeah,

1058
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Speaker 1: it is very simp affect her. She comes off well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So producer Justin is saying, and I thought I saw

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Speaker 1: something to this effect yesterday that now she's going to

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Speaker 1: tell the real story in a Netflix documentary. And I

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Speaker 1: do enjoy the way Netflix and Hullo are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they are real. Uh they really hate each other, it

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Speaker 1: seems uh no, they love each other. Listen, that's bolstering

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Speaker 1: because they don't have a lead in show that's like

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Speaker 1: a network does. And so now I have to watch

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Speaker 1: both fire documentaries and if I watched one, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: How wrong did Hulu get there? Pamela Anderson's story and

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Speaker 1: and that that's true. They standing right, they feed each other.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was doing like deck work for them or like

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Speaker 1: construction work at their house, like Tommy, Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: doing shift them and so payback he stole a safe yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the seth Rogen character who's actually had been a

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Speaker 1: porn star as well, he was doing construction work at

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Speaker 1: their house and then Tommy Lee like kept wanting to

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Speaker 1: change what was being done and all of it he

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Speaker 1: hadn't paid for any of it, but he kept saying like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm good for it. You know I'm good

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Speaker 1: for it. And then he wanted to change another thing

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Speaker 1: and it was going to be like another bunch of money,

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Speaker 1: and so the construction workers guys, we're having to front

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Speaker 1: it with their own money, and they were like, look,

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01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: we can do it, but we're going to need the

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Speaker 1: cash upfront, and he refused. So then um he like

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Speaker 1: fired them, claiming they've done shotty work, which supposed they

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Speaker 1: had not done shotty work. So then the Seth Rogan

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Speaker 1: character came to He realized he left his tools there,

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Speaker 1: and he came to pick up his tools and Tommy

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Speaker 1: was like, you're not taking your tools like I fired you,

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Speaker 1: and then he wanted his tools and then Tommy hold

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Speaker 1: a gun on him. So he like in the I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's true, but in the show he pissed.

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Speaker 1: He pissed himself, was completely emasculated. Left it was very sad.

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01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: He had a flashback to a sad thing from his

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Speaker 1: childhood as well. Left and then decided he wanted revenge,

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Speaker 1: so he came back and stole a safe. Did not

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Speaker 1: know what was going to be in the safe, but

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Speaker 1: in the safe was a whole bunch of stuff, including

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Speaker 1: this tape, started to do construction on your house. Did

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Speaker 1: not know he had been a porn star in the past. Yeah, interesting,

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Speaker 1: It does just seem like the setup of a porn

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Speaker 1: like it's like I forgot my tools, just forgot yeah. Right.

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01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: And in the series, the way he remembers that he

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Speaker 1: forgot his tools is he's at home having a little

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01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: wankin session watching porn, and in the porn he's watching,

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Speaker 1: he sees a toolbox and then he's like, oh, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I will talk about the thing that's making me happy

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01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: on the trending episode, which actually dropped yesterday. So if

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01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear what what's making me happy,

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01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: you can travel back in time and listen to that.

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: But Allison, such a pleasure having you on t d Z.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? Oh? Please

1113
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: follow me on social media at Alison Rosen on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram A L I S O N R O

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Speaker 1: s E N and please listen to my podcast. Alison

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Speaker 1: Rosen is your new best friend. I have preaka Wally,

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Speaker 1: who is a doctor and a comedian. On Monday's episode,

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: she is co hosts hypochondriactor with Shawn Hayes, and then

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Speaker 1: I have um the Dope Boys, uh, Nick and Mitch

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Speaker 1: on the Thursday show, and then My Lighthearted If you

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Speaker 1: like this show and you want more news, although mine's

1122
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: more lighthearted on Saturday's Upwarthly Weekly, and then Childish is

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Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. Go check those out as well. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work

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Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoyed? Yes, also a guilty pleasure.

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: I just discovered Spencer Pratt from The Hills US on

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01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: TikTok and is apparently, according to the comments, his n

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Speaker 1: d A has expired. So he's like angry and unhinged

1129
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: in the best way. So he is going back and

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01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: showing clips of the original Hills and the current Hills

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01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: and pointing out all the scenes that were scripted and

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Speaker 1: that the producers set up, and like he'll show a

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Speaker 1: phone conversation between him and Audrina and he's like, this

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01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: was this never happened in real life. I was on

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: the phone with Heidi. The producers had We're talking to Audrina.

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Speaker 1: They fed her the lines. They made it look like

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Speaker 1: we were talking. There's an old scene where heigh de

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Speaker 1: Tels Spencer, she took a pregnancy test and he's like, think,

1139
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 1: how fucked up that is? That was you know, fourty

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01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: year old producers telling a twenty year old girl to

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01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: to pretend that she was having trouble with birth control

1142
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: that never happened. Like he's basically just laying it all

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: out and I cannot get enough of it. That's on

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: TikTok's about your pride. Wow, so good, Joel, truly a

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: pleasure having you back, guest. Where can people find you

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: and follow you? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying?

1147
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: And Joel when he could can find me all over

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Speaker 1: the internet? Agee Monique that's j L E L E

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Speaker 1: m O and I q u E at Solomon, Missouri

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: posted photographs of a billboard from an insurance agency that's

1151
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: say show your mind, not your behind. It's images of

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01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: a man sagging his pants and a woman with an

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: A plus posterior and some white booty shorts juxtaposed with

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01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: those same people in graduation robes. And the tweet says

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do both because I can do all things

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01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: through Christ, who strengthens me and God bless get it.

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: People have an education and show your ass ain't no problems,

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01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: live your life. Insurance company? Are you doing? Get out

1159
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: of here. You can find me on Twitter at Jack

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien some tweets I've been enjoying. Amber Treadway tweeted

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01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: where did scars accent come from? Did he study abroad

1162
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: at Palavi Ganal And tweeted I had a friend who

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: put a frozen burrito on the microwave and when it

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01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: didn't heat up, she threw the burrito away and tried

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01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: heating up a different one. And that's just such a

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01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: good encapsulation of like my brain when I'm tired, like

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: and I just can't make decisions and I'm like on

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Speaker 1: a weird autopilot that doesn't work. So I appreciated that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have Facebook fan

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes on our foot notes to the information

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Speaker 1: that we talked about in today's episode, as well as

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Speaker 1: that song that we think you should go check out

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Speaker 1: Justin super producer Justin what song do we think people

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Speaker 1: should go check out. This is a very interesting track

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Speaker 1: by a I believe he's a UK artist. This song

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Speaker 1: is called under Waterfall one word by Bear Cubs. Very

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01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: interesting inspiration here. It sounds like a future garage, low

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Speaker 1: fi house inspired track, but that doesn't describe it so

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01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: well because it sounds like it's going to be one

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01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: of the most fire rap beats you've ever heard. And

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Speaker 1: then he just goes into this droning sing song voice

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Speaker 1: that's very hypnotizing and I love it. And when the

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Speaker 1: chorus comes in, the song just expands to this huge

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Speaker 1: soundscape that you can just get lost in, and then

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: he goes right back to the simple keys that you'll

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Speaker 1: hear um in the beginning. It sounds like a mix

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Speaker 1: between a light sound pad and a steel drum. So

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Speaker 1: you can check this out in the footnotes. That's bear

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Speaker 1: Cubs Underwaterfall. Awesome. Alright, we'll go check that out. The

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Speaker 1: Daily Zy guys the production of I Heart Radio. For

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us this morning. We're back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to y'all. Sam Spite