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Speaker 3: Start Nightcap early because Alabama got this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, that's what I thought it was. Listen.
Speaker 3: The game was lopsided the whole first half.
Speaker 5: I had no idea that they were gonna mismanage the
Speaker 5: clock and allow Jeordian to get back into the game.
Speaker 5: This is this is a rule of thumb for coaches.
Speaker 5: Don't take your foot off the gas. You're allowed them
Speaker 5: to get back in the game. The game shouldn't even
Speaker 5: been that close. Continue to run the same office you're running.
Speaker 3: It's hard. It was no need to come off the gas. Huh.
Speaker 2: It's a lot easier said than done. We watched this
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl. A team be up twenty eight
Speaker 2: to three and still try to be aggressive and it
Speaker 2: bit them in the butt. You put Matt Ryan in
Speaker 2: the shotgun, the guy misses the block, you cost them
Speaker 2: a fumble.
Speaker 3: You know what you just said? Keyword.
Speaker 5: We saw a team still try to be aggressive. Alma
Speaker 5: try to be aggressive. They were very vanilla the second half.
Speaker 3: But they didn't be aggressive. They won. The other team
Speaker 3: was aggressive and lost. Now which would you rather be?
Speaker 2: The thing is the way I look at it, and
Speaker 2: what I try to explain to people Ohoe is like, look,
Speaker 2: when you have the momentum, how much separation can you
Speaker 2: put between you and the team that you have the momentum?
Speaker 2: Because eventually they're going to get it. They're going to
Speaker 2: get the momentum. And when they do, how much distance
Speaker 2: have you separated yourself?
Speaker 3: Enough? Now?
Speaker 2: Alabama? Because what happened they got conservative. Your defense they
Speaker 2: couldn't get off the field on fourth down. Ojo Georgia
Speaker 2: was one for thirteen on third down, but they were
Speaker 2: five for five on fourth down. Your defense can't get
Speaker 2: off the field, your offense can't stay on the field.
Speaker 2: So Georgia is keeping you on the field ten twelve plays.
Speaker 2: Alabama's going three and out. So if you're bringing that
Speaker 2: tired defense right back on the field, what do you
Speaker 2: think is gonna happen? And so the next thing you know,
Speaker 2: now you're out of rhythm. The other team is in
Speaker 2: the rhythm, and now you're holding on for dear life.
Speaker 3: So I get it. It's a lot. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: having been in both situations.
Speaker 2: On Joe, I believe it's easy to play from behind
Speaker 2: than it is with the lead, because you could throw
Speaker 2: caution to the win.
Speaker 3: O Joe, we already down twenty seven, So what the
Speaker 3: hell I got to lose? Let it RiPP You know,
Speaker 3: it's funny.
Speaker 5: Why couldn't Georgia play the way they did in the
Speaker 5: second half when you're throwing caution to the win and
Speaker 5: start off.
Speaker 3: The game like that, start off the game like that.
Speaker 5: But I think, listen, if you, if you were to
Speaker 5: write this story again or right how you would want
Speaker 5: this game to go.
Speaker 6: There was no better ending than the one they had
Speaker 6: the night.
Speaker 5: This has to be the best collegiate game of the year,
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure there's another another game that will
Speaker 5: top it. This year based on what we saw tonight.
Speaker 5: What we saw tonight was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: You got to heavy. Wait, I thought the game was over.
Speaker 5: I left, I stopped watching the game, and when they
Speaker 5: had a cigar break, I went to took a cigar break.
Speaker 3: I come back in and Georgie got a lead. I'm like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, but what happened. Well, now I got
Speaker 3: to rewind the TV back and then and then and
Speaker 3: let it run forward to catch back up.
Speaker 2: Alabama DB's and any defensive back ro stop celebrating when
Speaker 2: you break. If you can make a pig, make the
Speaker 2: pig right. In fact, they that's the difference between the
Speaker 2: good corners and the great corners. Ed Reed was a safety,
Speaker 2: but he came down with the ball. Brian came down
Speaker 2: with the ball. Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson, it's not good enough.
Speaker 2: I'm doing no, no, no, no no. I'm trying to take
Speaker 2: these possessions, the defensive possessions, and turn them into points.
Speaker 2: So that's the Alabama. You know, oh, you strapping him down,
Speaker 2: but you do realize they got too more. They got
Speaker 2: two more downs to try to get a first down
Speaker 2: or maybe a touchdown. So why you're celebrating and you
Speaker 2: should he you happy. But bro, if you get your
Speaker 2: hands on the ball, bro, you got to come down
Speaker 2: with it like the dB did in the last player
Speaker 2: of the game.
Speaker 3: That was a big time player.
Speaker 5: A freshman at that. Yeah, freshman at that And I
Speaker 5: like I like that he played to a strength too.
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if it was the defensive coordinator's choice to
Speaker 5: have him play off on that so he can get
Speaker 5: his head, so he can get his head around around
Speaker 5: and on the ball, as opposed to being impressed and
Speaker 5: be playing from trail and then having to turn around
Speaker 5: and look and losing the ball.
Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons why you got that pick.
Speaker 5: But another thing I want to say about about DB's
Speaker 5: is ninety five percent of dbs play not to get beat,
Speaker 5: and it's all percentage about five percent of them that
Speaker 5: play to make a play.
Speaker 3: And that for that that small percentage, that five percent.
Speaker 5: Are those that always turn out to be great, always
Speaker 5: turn out to be great.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest difference between the college dB and the
Speaker 2: NFL dB is the ability to attract the football.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but really.
Speaker 2: Good wall you hey, you know after certain hey, if
Speaker 2: you notice watch the watch the really great def the
Speaker 2: NFL DB's watch how soon they're like jam turned.
Speaker 3: They'll start looking to head back, head back right away.
Speaker 2: The ball got to be coming up. You too far
Speaker 2: down the field for the ball not to be coming Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so that's that's one of the difference. And the
Speaker 2: skill set. It is a skill I can't teach you
Speaker 2: that you're born with. That that is innate. Every reasonability
Speaker 2: to find the football, prime the ability to find the football.
Speaker 2: Rod Woodson charge even the great corners. Uh uh, Trayvon Diggs,
Speaker 2: that is God.
Speaker 6: Give hey, Trayvon is the goddamn ball home.
Speaker 3: That's that's God. I can't teach you that, O Joe.
Speaker 2: That's instinct that it is, and people don't understand that.
Speaker 2: And I made the comparison to day. If you watch
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, his ball skills are comparable to a because
Speaker 2: you think about it, he's made like two or three
Speaker 2: of those interceptions. He's like he's playing off and he
Speaker 2: watched the corner and he's diving and laying out. You
Speaker 2: watch him undercut that ball at colorad at Colorado State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's bro. Everybody can't do that.
Speaker 5: That's pure instinct to be able to come off. To
Speaker 5: be able to come off that and know it's coming. Yes,
Speaker 5: pure instinct. That he's you know who you remind me
Speaker 5: of another player.
Speaker 3: Has pure instinct, pure instinct.
Speaker 5: And superior ball skills that doesn't get the credit they
Speaker 5: deserve that.
Speaker 3: Samuel Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Samon.
Speaker 5: And Reeves is another one who doesn't get the credit.
Speaker 5: We know he's in the Hall of Fame. We understand
Speaker 5: how greedy is, we understand what he did that two
Speaker 5: thousand and nine season and locking up all time greats.
Speaker 5: But his ball skills on his ball skill, his technique,
Speaker 5: his patience, here ride you and once you get past
Speaker 5: ten yards, man, that head come around so goddamn fast. Yes,
Speaker 5: to be able to locate that ball. And that's what
Speaker 5: half is interceptions came from.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But see the thing is with him, like those other guys,
Speaker 2: you could tell they were offensive guys because when they
Speaker 2: they hey, they ain't trying to knock it down. Every
Speaker 2: was trying to take it and trying to pick it
Speaker 2: and go to the.
Speaker 3: House and go to the house every time. Ryme would it.
Speaker 2: If you look at those guys, that's why you see
Speaker 2: them guys seven eight nine, ten return touch returns for
Speaker 2: touchdown because they're trying to take defense and automatically turn
Speaker 2: it into offense, and that that is a god gift.
Speaker 2: I can't teach you that, son. I can't teach you
Speaker 2: how to find the ball. I just can't. I can't
Speaker 2: teach you to like. No, Okay, this is a two
Speaker 2: by one. They're gonna try to overlap this. I gotta
Speaker 2: play two by one. Yes, I got the inside. I
Speaker 2: gotta make sure the inside because I got the outside. Guy,
Speaker 2: I bout two by one because I got to worry
Speaker 2: about the scene also, O Joe. But I got the
Speaker 2: go route. Yeah, yeah, I know y'all try to do.
Speaker 2: I got this two by one. I'm an overlapp you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you think I ain't got this scene.
Speaker 2: But I'm a picket when you throw it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it is, it is. It is is an unbelievable
Speaker 2: game tonight Alabama. Jalen mill Rod was sensational again. Twenty
Speaker 2: seven or thirty three three seventy four two touchdowns. He
Speaker 2: had an interception and tight end has to understand on
Speaker 2: the pic on the pit he needs to widen because
Speaker 2: Jalen Millro can see what he can't if he'd a
Speaker 2: led him, he wouldn't have finished the rest of the
Speaker 2: game because that linebacker. Yeah, what decapitated the bojoe. And
Speaker 2: so that's what you have to do. You have to
Speaker 2: widen the guy. Widen him so Jalen Milro can fit
Speaker 2: it in that game. See, that's why he put it on
Speaker 2: his back shoulder because he's a ladd him.
Speaker 3: Yeah out, Oh for sure, sure, this is very smart.
Speaker 5: Mirror's part to know that the sometimes listen, a quarterback
Speaker 5: is save you every time.
Speaker 6: Of course you're doing can save you every time.
Speaker 2: That that that's the thing, the one that can save
Speaker 2: you because anytime you get a collision, it's the quarterback's fault. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he can see what you can. I'm trusting you
Speaker 2: that you're not gonna leave me the harm. I'm trusting you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do everything I can. Either I'm gonna catch
Speaker 2: it or I'm gonna break it up. All I ask
Speaker 2: you is not have the ambulance come on the field
Speaker 2: to get me. So so you're absolutely right. But the
Speaker 2: tight end he needs to understand. But he's young. You
Speaker 2: talked about something that I've over years old cho to
Speaker 2: know the whiden and sometimes you gotta get you gotta
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta get hit in your head to understand.
Speaker 3: That that it hurts. Whiden the guy.
Speaker 2: Give Jalen Milroe some room to protect you from the
Speaker 2: inside guy. But he went in there hard. Jaylen Milroe
Speaker 2: tried to back show him. He popped it up and
Speaker 2: in the process he was about to catch it, but
Speaker 2: the dB hit it. And now, hey, that's safety for
Speaker 2: Georgia seventeen. Yeah, he could play I'm thinking sixteen or
Speaker 2: seventeen of the white which one was it? Because he
Speaker 2: got a pick. He can play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he can play. He gonna play on Sundays.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely. He's got that. You don't see a
Speaker 3: whole lot of he got skills.
Speaker 5: This is the funny thing about it. When you talk
Speaker 5: about going to the next level. This is the closes
Speaker 5: you're gonna get to an NFL game because all the
Speaker 5: talent that are under seen. If you're gonna stand out
Speaker 5: on film in a game like this, when in Georgia,
Speaker 5: when in Georgia, Alabama, where it's a bunch of five
Speaker 5: four four star, five star players and you standing out
Speaker 5: on film like the safety you just called out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's professional. Yeah, that boy.
Speaker 5: Listen, that young bull that receive it, that's only seventeen
Speaker 5: years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah that right, Ryan Williams. Man, listen, man, Ryan Williams.
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna see this. Listen.
Speaker 6: I know you ain't old enough.
Speaker 3: I know you ain't old enough to party.
Speaker 6: But when you see this, boy, I need you to
Speaker 6: send me a DM.
Speaker 3: I a jersey sign. I need a jersey side.
Speaker 5: If I don't get a jersey sign in less than
Speaker 5: twenty five if you don't see me a DM in
Speaker 5: less than twenty four.
Speaker 6: Hours, he ain't getting none of that in il money.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact.
Speaker 5: Hold on, I know we're talking about Alabama Georgia, right,
Speaker 5: I got a message with two more players.
Speaker 6: Hold on so they know I mean Ben's hold on
Speaker 6: because they think hold on.
Speaker 2: But there was a big time game. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of big time talent on the fields. This game was
Speaker 2: littered with four and five star recruits. You look at
Speaker 2: the offense and defensive line, you look at the skill position,
Speaker 2: you look at the linebackers. This is a I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a reason why Georgia and Alabama naturally year in
Speaker 2: and year out in the top five and recruiting because
Speaker 2: when you played the brand of football, and they see
Speaker 2: all those guys going to the NFL from the University
Speaker 2: of Georgia, from the University of Alabama. Same thing with
Speaker 2: Ohio State and some of those Big ten teams, ain't hey,
Speaker 2: I want to be like that.
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to be like Amari Cooper. I want
Speaker 3: to be like.
Speaker 2: A Jerry Judy and all these other guys, uh that
Speaker 2: went from Alabama who is it Calvin Ridley? And so
Speaker 2: I look at Georgia and you see all those defensive players,
Speaker 2: Na Kobe Dean, they had Walker, and they had a Jalen,
Speaker 2: the big d tackle.
Speaker 3: They got two of them, Jorge Davis. What's his name?
Speaker 2: Oh man, uh huh, No, I know n Kobe Dean,
Speaker 2: but the Jalen number ninety eight for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 2: they got two of them, Jordan Davis and the what's
Speaker 2: Jalen's last name?
Speaker 3: Carter? Jalen Carter, Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: So when you see that pipeline, it's easy for because
Speaker 2: the recruiter, because the players recruits, cause you don't have
Speaker 2: to do a whole not Hey, y'all saw my resume.
Speaker 2: Y'all see, we got sixty guys in the NFL. We
Speaker 2: got fifty eight guys in the NFL. Hey, you see
Speaker 2: how much money.
Speaker 4: To a sign for.
Speaker 2: You see how much this got signed for. You see
Speaker 2: how much this got signed for.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So it's a lot easier to recruit when you
Speaker 2: have those guys do it doing that, y'all go ahead,
Speaker 2: don't your.
Speaker 6: So just letting the boy know I'm not even playing.
Speaker 5: I got three people, three people, everybody in the chat.
Speaker 6: Make sure they get this message. I know they gonna
Speaker 6: see the video.
Speaker 5: Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith and Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: I want a jersey. I want a jersey sign.
Speaker 5: In less than you got twenty four hours to send
Speaker 5: me a DM Get me a jersey down to Miami.
Speaker 5: If I don't have my jersey before Monday, before eight
Speaker 5: o'clock Monday, ain't nobody getting no nil money.
Speaker 3: And you know what that means. You see you see it?
Speaker 3: You listen.
Speaker 5: I ain't got this on for nothing. Ain't none of
Speaker 5: y'all getting no nil money, no mover the rest of
Speaker 5: the season. Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 3: And Travis Hunt.
Speaker 5: I want my jersey FedEx Monday morning. You know how
Speaker 5: to get my address? Ask your coaches that's it, and
Speaker 5: I ain't even playing.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: Georgia had twenty five first down Alabama had twenty one
Speaker 2: third down officials efficiency. Georgia was three or fifteen on
Speaker 2: third down. Alabama was three of eleven. On fourth down,
Speaker 2: Georgia was five or five, Alabama was one for two.
Speaker 2: Georgia had five hundred and nineteen yards of total off fense.
Speaker 2: Alabama had five forty seven of total offense completion completion
Speaker 2: with twenty seven and fifty for Georgia twenty seven of
Speaker 2: thirty three for Alabama. Russian yards. Alabama had one seventy three.
Speaker 2: Georgia had eighty penalties. Obama had ten for ninety Georgia
Speaker 2: had four for thirty five. I did think that that
Speaker 2: was a passing appearance right before the half on the
Speaker 2: on Georgia. I think the officials sometimes they get caught
Speaker 2: up in the games, like it's thirty, it's thirty to seven.
Speaker 3: It'll mean anything, but you gotta call it.
Speaker 2: That is PI And you're standing right there, and the
Speaker 2: bureau was he had every right to be hysterical because
Speaker 2: was p I. And you don't know that could have
Speaker 2: come back to Boytom, because you could have got the
Speaker 2: way they were rolling, I feel they're gonna probably get
Speaker 2: you know, three, maybe even seven out of that, push
Speaker 2: it to a thirty three to seven, maybe even a
Speaker 2: thirty seven to seven ball game. But give give Georgia credit. Uh,
Speaker 2: they didn't run. They could have easily like Fody shop.
Speaker 2: But give Kirbys mart and this staff for unbelievable job
Speaker 2: forgetting those guys to come out of the locker room
Speaker 2: and play extremely well. Carson Beck did not have his
Speaker 2: best game.
Speaker 3: He was horrible. Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, he threw, he threw, he threw a pick and
Speaker 2: had a fumble in the second half too. That was
Speaker 2: the reason why they got behind it. Remember I wasn't
Speaker 2: it behind like twenty eight nothing at one point?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So look, they're not very many They're not gonna see
Speaker 2: very many teams that can match that like Alabama.
Speaker 3: Alabama. Alabama's physical, Georgia physical.
Speaker 2: Uh. The offensive line is they're loaded with five star
Speaker 2: on both lines. They're loaded with five stars at this
Speaker 2: four and five start. The skill position players, very well coached.
Speaker 2: We know what Kirby Kirby is and he was the
Speaker 2: DC for Alabama in a lot of those years when
Speaker 2: they won national championships. He learned a lot under coach Saban.
Speaker 2: I like Alabama's hired to beer. He's sensation. He's a
Speaker 2: very good coach, very good offensive mind. And the guys
Speaker 2: played really well offensively. I just thought they got a
Speaker 2: little bit too conservative, O Joe. And when you get conservative,
Speaker 2: now you put your defense in a buying because a
Speaker 2: team takes them out there and they drag him out
Speaker 2: there ten twelve, fifteen plays. Your offense comes on the field,
Speaker 2: they go three and out, or maybe they get one
Speaker 2: first down. Put your tied defense right back on the field.
Speaker 2: They drag him out there again. Another ten twelve play drive.
Speaker 2: Your offense comes back in, it goes three and out. Now,
Speaker 2: O yo, Now you're asking for trouble. Yeah, you're asking
Speaker 2: for trouble. But give Alabama credit. They came out ready
Speaker 2: to fight tonight and they would take down the number
Speaker 2: two Georgia Bulldogs.
Speaker 3: If you think about it, nobody since.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one has beaten Georgia other than Alabama forty
Speaker 2: four and oh against every other.
Speaker 3: Team not yeah, but they'll be back. They will. They
Speaker 3: gonna they gonna meet, they gonna meet each other again.
Speaker 2: Uh, probably the CC Championship. Oh, yeah, probably the CC championship.
Speaker 2: But that was that was a ball game, and that
Speaker 2: was an unbelievable ball game. Xabi and Brown picks off
Speaker 2: Carson back in the end zone. He has a four turnovernight.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Oh so there's a viral photo College
Speaker 2: game day this morning. A guy had a sign saying,
Speaker 2: my wife is having a baby, but I chose to
Speaker 2: be here roll time.
Speaker 3: Oh no, ay, his wife is having a baby. You
Speaker 3: know what. Obviously, knowing if his wife.
Speaker 5: Is a is an Alabama fan, she probably told him
Speaker 5: to go to the game. Oh yeah, knowing, knowing, knowing
Speaker 5: how much they love they tied.
Speaker 6: I guarantee you she told him to go to the game.
Speaker 3: But hold on.
Speaker 2: You remember the criticism that we caught when an NFL
Speaker 2: player said he.
Speaker 3: Would choose to play. You remember how all the women
Speaker 3: came at us. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Game.
Speaker 5: This is the thing you have to understand too. It
Speaker 5: all depends on the woman you're you're dealing with. It
Speaker 5: all depends on the woman that's having the child. Some women,
Speaker 5: depending on how much they understand how much you love
Speaker 5: that game, Like baby, If you don't get out there
Speaker 5: and make that goddamn money.
Speaker 3: They paying you millions of dollars for a reason.
Speaker 5: Yea yeah, all right, Now you get out there, do
Speaker 5: what you got to do, and you come on home.
Speaker 5: What's the name of the movie, but with Mary Chestnut
Speaker 5: when old girl was in the hospital and he went
Speaker 5: out there and played, and then he came and seen
Speaker 5: it after.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yea yea, yea yeah, yah, yea yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 3: Well he's the football player. Yeah, I forget.
Speaker 5: Depending on who you're married to, not the situation in
Speaker 5: the movie might have been a little different, but still
Speaker 5: the depend on who he married to, or depends on
Speaker 5: who you having a child from. There's a there's an understanding.
Speaker 5: This is the way we eat, this is the way
Speaker 5: you provide for us.
Speaker 2: Now he came by better o Joe said, Baby, I
Speaker 2: was trying to get to the hospital, but the car
Speaker 2: broke down.
Speaker 3: You can't be on that and the TV would have
Speaker 3: signed my wife having the baby.
Speaker 2: If you saw the guys in Georgia, they're Georgia Bulldogs fan.
Speaker 2: Obviously the storm came through. I thought some prayers goes
Speaker 2: out to everyone. There were some fatalities, so our thought
Speaker 2: some prayers from Nightcap crew goes out to those impacted family,
Speaker 2: friends and loved ones that have been impacted by this
Speaker 2: storm up the East coast up into the Carolinas.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But he took a round, He took a round a
Speaker 2: floadia rubber and to go get his friend who was
Speaker 2: who was was rained in.
Speaker 3: So he's like, nah, we ain't missing that game. If
Speaker 3: you want to be with were going to Tuscaloosa. So
Speaker 3: he took his a little rubber.
Speaker 2: Boat and he went and got his man and unfortunately
Speaker 2: it didn't work out the way they wanted to. But
Speaker 2: that was that was that was a very good game.
Speaker 2: And you know fans are fanatic like that.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if you're from if you're in the South,
Speaker 2: if you're up north, you get you have no idea
Speaker 2: what we're talking about. But if you're in the South,
Speaker 2: Texas and you come all the way back all the
Speaker 2: southern states, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, I mean obviously you know
Speaker 2: Georgia and Florida we have a bit more population Texas.
Speaker 3: Football is life. Yeah, yeah, football is life. They closed
Speaker 3: down Friday's night.
Speaker 2: You're going to the game and if you haven't, Okay, no,
Speaker 2: everybody's closing up shop and they're going to the game.
Speaker 5: And you know the funny thing about it is, obviously
Speaker 5: you have a better a better not knowledge of the
Speaker 5: game of college football, maybe a better experience.
Speaker 3: You got to think.
Speaker 5: I went to Oregon State way back in two thousand
Speaker 5: and one, so I don't know what it's like to
Speaker 5: be at a PWI of that magnetude like an Alabama LSU. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but when my daughter before she chose, but she was
Speaker 5: gonna go to school before she went to Kentucky, I
Speaker 5: went to l s U LSU game.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 5: I ain't never seen nothing like that. Oh, yes, I
Speaker 5: went to LSU game. I played in the league eleven
Speaker 5: twelve goddamn years. I've never seen nothing like that at
Speaker 5: our level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to understand, oh Joe, the kids,
Speaker 2: so they gonna face paint. They gonna be yelling and screaming.
Speaker 2: Hey man, look here when you see when Georgia playing,
Speaker 2: you see all them jokers got them flags in the backroom,
Speaker 2: bulldof flags flying.
Speaker 6: It ain't been won the games. They're crazy out there.
Speaker 3: Huh what well, hold on?
Speaker 5: They crazy like that LSU game? Like, yes, well, I
Speaker 5: went to that Tennessee. But I've seen Tennessee play. Uh
Speaker 5: my baby went on the visit to Tennessee. Man, they
Speaker 5: played that god damn Rocky talk man, that's the boy
Speaker 5: and boy boy.
Speaker 3: But it was in that thing you rock. Can you
Speaker 3: hear me go down?
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, this is college. The NFL atmosphere.
Speaker 3: Ain't even like this.
Speaker 2: Drive down to ninety five when they played, when they
Speaker 2: played Florida, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Florida might not be that. Florida's not that good.
Speaker 2: Good now when they play with Georgia, Florida play in
Speaker 2: the world largest office, the cocktail party and you see
Speaker 2: all them flags here down ninety five, or when they
Speaker 2: come up and they play in the SEC Championship and
Speaker 2: you see Georgia, they coming up from they coming up
Speaker 2: from Tuscan loose in Birmingham.
Speaker 3: Man, o joy main. I got to experience that.
Speaker 5: I got experience that that that one that one little game,
Speaker 5: that one little game.
Speaker 3: I had a chance to.
Speaker 5: See LSU play, obviously Jaydon Daniels at the time, and
Speaker 5: I saw Tennessee play.
Speaker 3: Tennessee were playing. Matter of fact, they were playing Kentucky.
Speaker 5: If I'm not a stake man, ain't boy, I still
Speaker 5: got that that that Rocky Top song still locked in
Speaker 5: my head.
Speaker 2: But you got to understand o joke tradition like that,
Speaker 2: that's no, no, no, I mean NFL they ain't like
Speaker 2: they ain't like that, right because them college kids, them
Speaker 2: college kids, Oh, they're gonna be out there, especially when
Speaker 2: you go to a big school like that, because you
Speaker 2: got to get out there to get the tickets. So
Speaker 2: they gonna be ay, They're gonna be out there damn
Speaker 2: here all day, all night trying to get those especially
Speaker 2: for the big game. Can you imagine what those students
Speaker 2: were doing to get those Georgia tickets or to get
Speaker 2: the Albron tickets. Now, now you talk about Alabama Aubrey,
Speaker 2: or you talk about Ohio State Michigan, and you talk.
Speaker 3: Now, come on, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: What there's nothing like. There's nothing like Southern football. I
Speaker 2: get the right, I get the I get the Green
Speaker 2: Bay Chicago rivalry.
Speaker 3: In the NFL. I get Duke North Carolina.
Speaker 2: But when you talk about Alabama Auburn, when you talk
Speaker 2: about Georgia Florida, when you talk about Florida State Florida,
Speaker 2: or Florida State Miami or one of those those ain't
Speaker 2: nothing nothing South Carolina Clemson. You have to experience it
Speaker 2: to understand what I'm talking about. It's like when I
Speaker 2: tell people about going to an HBCU and homecoming week.
Speaker 2: You have to be on that campus to experience the pageantry,
Speaker 2: the the pageantry.
Speaker 3: D are the atmosphere? Oh Joe, Oh they do it? Ye?
Speaker 3: Are they in the yard? Oh?
Speaker 2: Hey them France, they up in the yard. The student
Speaker 2: center is buzzed because everybody.
Speaker 3: Know what I told.
Speaker 6: Listen you remember, mind you, I told you.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I didn't have the opportunity that most people that
Speaker 5: went to AHBCUS have.
Speaker 3: My first experience. Obviously, I listen.
Speaker 5: I've been supporting Fami you since got there in nineteen
Speaker 5: eighty four, but never was integrated in the atmosphere to
Speaker 5: know what the EIGHTHBCU experience was like. Because I go
Speaker 5: to the game, I listened to the band, and I
Speaker 5: watched football team blaate and then I go home when
Speaker 5: my daughter crossed over at PV A M. And I
Speaker 5: walked in there and seen that atmosphere. You got to
Speaker 5: see Roti's all the different fraternities. I never ever ever
Speaker 5: seen nothing like that, right man with them ma'am man.
Speaker 5: When them ak's came out, when they came out, Stephen,
Speaker 5: I want to be in Aka.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you the reason why.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh and dog, you got it. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't even I can't even put in the words because.
Speaker 2: It's like that, because like anytime Georgia plays, anytime a
Speaker 2: Southern team South Carolina, Clemson, Florida Tech. Just imagine Texas,
Speaker 2: Texas or Oklahoma, the Red River rivalry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that. It's like that. It's like that.
Speaker 2: It's like that every every every Sunday, every Saturday in
Speaker 2: the SCC country, and it's.
Speaker 6: Still the same as the teams aren't playing well, like Florida.
Speaker 3: State, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: If Floridas, my season is complete. If I beat you,
Speaker 2: I don't care. I just got to win one game.
Speaker 2: It's against you, Oklahoma, Texas, as long as I beat you, Alabama, Auburn,
Speaker 2: long as I beat you, Georgia, Florida, long as I
Speaker 2: beat you, it doesn't matter, Ohio State, Michigan. I'm putting
Speaker 2: all my eggs in this basket. I can go over,
Speaker 2: I can go one for ten as long as that
Speaker 2: ten against you, as long as that want to get
Speaker 2: your punk ass. That's all I care That's all I
Speaker 2: care about, man. But yeah, I mean they out there.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Look, I grew up in the South officely you know,
Speaker 2: lived in Georgia. Damn my whole life. Oh jo, they
Speaker 2: start a they start skewing the games at one o'clock,
Speaker 2: twelve o'clock, one o'clock. Man, they out there, they out there,
Speaker 2: got them, got them grills. They skewing them winn bagos
Speaker 2: back there. Oh yes, yes, they drunk at ten thirty
Speaker 2: in the game. They drew another two hours. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: they already to up. I like, go to suck, go
Speaker 2: to Grambling Southern like they have.
Speaker 3: Them a family pathoon. Man. Man, everybody got experienced that
Speaker 3: at least once. Oh joe yo.
Speaker 2: The Colorado Buffaloes beat u CF forty eight twenty one.
Speaker 3: Excuse men.
Speaker 2: The Buffaloes were fourteen point underdogs, improved the four and
Speaker 2: one two and on the big twelve. Travis Hunter called
Speaker 2: a touchdown pass intercepted the past in the same game
Speaker 2: for the second time in the last three weeks.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: It's the fourth time in his three year college career
Speaker 2: that he's done that. He struck the Heisman polls after
Speaker 2: he picked off kJ Jefferson with a diving interception in
Speaker 2: the third quarter.
Speaker 3: That's he was.
Speaker 2: He's transferred from Arkansas? Right, kJ Jefferson Wasn't he at
Speaker 2: Arkansas last couple of years?
Speaker 3: Oh Joe?
Speaker 2: Speaking of knowledge time for money moves presented by DraftKings,
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter now has the third best Heisman odds. Jalen
Speaker 2: Millrod from Alabama plus two twenty five is number one.
Speaker 2: Cam Ward Miami plus five hundred, Number two Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: plus seven fifty Number three Dylan Gabriel Oregon plus twelve hundred.
Speaker 3: He's four.
Speaker 2: Statistically, Hunter has put up elite numbers and receiver. He
Speaker 2: ended the weekend ranked fourth nationally in receptions, sixth in
Speaker 2: receiving yard tied for fourth, and TV catching with five.
Speaker 2: He called nine passes to day eighty nine yards and
Speaker 2: a touchdown, and grab one of the best cover corners
Speaker 2: in the game. Colorado came from behind with a winner
Speaker 2: of Baylor last week. Hunter had the game winning forrest
Speaker 2: fumble on the goal line. Hunter played one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty eight snaps on Saturday. According to Fox Ball Cast,
Speaker 2: he's averaging about one hundred and thirty snaps per game.
Speaker 5: Listen, when we talk about heyst and right, there's so
Speaker 5: many different factors that go into it, but when Travis
Speaker 5: Hunter is doing it needs to be taken into account.
Speaker 3: This is something special.
Speaker 5: There are very few players that are able to play
Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball. There are very few
Speaker 5: players are able to play on both sides of the
Speaker 5: ball and affect the game on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5: Ye in fact, Travis Hunter is able to do both.
Speaker 5: It speaks volumes. This is no disrespect to cam mord,
Speaker 5: This is no disresp back to Jaylemon Road and what
Speaker 5: they're doing quarterbacks. Most of the time, they always win
Speaker 5: the award based on what they're doing always, But what
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter is doing this year, it needs to be
Speaker 5: taking a little bit more serious, a little bit more serious.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 6: People really understand, especially those that are voting.
Speaker 5: I don't know who did the goddamn odds first.
Speaker 3: No matter what, based on what he's done so far
Speaker 3: this season or Ray, he should be first. He's affecting
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. It's it's not even heard of.
Speaker 6: It's been done before, but hasn't been done before like this.
Speaker 5: At this level, the way he's doing it, the interception
Speaker 5: affecting the game, winning the game, the fumble on the
Speaker 5: goal line at receiver, but a good number.
Speaker 2: Charles Woodson did play offense, but he did not play offense.
Speaker 3: He didn't play.
Speaker 2: If they had seventy snaps, he wasn't playing sixties five
Speaker 2: of those snaps. He had a package in which he played,
Speaker 2: and he played extremely well. We're not gonna minimize Charles Wilson.
Speaker 2: He did, he became the first defensive player to win
Speaker 2: the Heisman, but he did not play as many snaps
Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the football as Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: is playing. He's coming out of the game, they're running
Speaker 2: seventy five plays and he's only missing two or three
Speaker 2: of those plays, and he's missing five or six snaps
Speaker 2: on the defensive side. So basically he's playing all but nine,
Speaker 2: maybe ten snaps in a game.
Speaker 3: Unheard of.
Speaker 5: Yes, but young young bull condition is out this world.
Speaker 5: Young boy, listen, much respect to Travis Hunter. You know,
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna see this. I already gave you
Speaker 5: a message. I have my sisty on so I know
Speaker 5: you're gonna get this message. If I don't get that
Speaker 5: DM with that jersey, I'm telling you Monday FedEx. I
Speaker 5: don't want to hear nothing. I don't know excuses any
Speaker 5: inile money is coming straight to me, coming straight to me, period.
Speaker 3: Hey, holorada, no good today, Huh.
Speaker 2: This the most complete game that I've seen them played,
Speaker 2: maybe since Prime has been there. The ability to run
Speaker 2: the football, the way they protected your door, throw the football,
Speaker 2: the way they look. They got some I mean late
Speaker 2: in the ballgame, ucf ran the football got some players.
Speaker 2: But I thought they did a great job of containing
Speaker 2: him early on in the ball game, doing enough to
Speaker 2: disrupt this rhythm. I mean, I don't know when I
Speaker 2: look at him, but I don't think they should have
Speaker 2: ever been concerned about his ability to throw the football.
Speaker 2: He's more dangerous with his legs than he is his arm.
Speaker 2: But I thought this was the most complete game. The
Speaker 2: way they dominated this game, They got after the quarterback,
Speaker 2: They did a great job of protecting your door. Shadority,
Speaker 2: you had a great job of throwing the football. But
Speaker 2: I thought this was one of the more complete ball games,
Speaker 2: if not the most complete. I'm talking about when you
Speaker 2: look at running, throwing, stopping to run, getting after the quarterback, defending.
Speaker 2: I thought this was and it was on the road.
Speaker 2: I thought, so you played what hell of a ball game?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, they played really well. I'm happy for Prime.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for Prime.
Speaker 5: This is what one more week you get to you
Speaker 5: get to keep them off your back, one more week
Speaker 5: you get to keep him off your back and show listen, they.
Speaker 3: Formed one this year. They formed one so far.
Speaker 5: You know a lot of people say they wouldn't be,
Speaker 5: wouldn't even be in this position.
Speaker 3: What I like.
Speaker 5: What I like for Prime is improvement year the year. Yeah,
Speaker 5: improvement year the year. All they use is a little time.
Speaker 5: All I need a little time to get the right
Speaker 5: the right people, the right dogs in here.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: And next year it's gonna be even better, and it's
Speaker 6: gonna be continued.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a gradual build, nothing overnight, a gradual
Speaker 5: bill and improvement is there.
Speaker 3: We can see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had to be O Joe for the simple
Speaker 2: fact that man, they went one in twelve and y'all
Speaker 2: expect the man to go in there and go to
Speaker 2: the and to go to the damn Rose Bowl or
Speaker 2: the dam Peach Bowl.
Speaker 3: Is first year.
Speaker 2: And now if a team went one in twelve, where
Speaker 2: have they ever done that? Noell, hey all, he all hyped.
Speaker 2: I mean, coach Save Digg, Coach Saban dick win, No
Speaker 2: twelve games his first game his first year there. It's
Speaker 2: gonna take time. And coach Saban had a bunch of
Speaker 2: four and five star recruits. I'm not so sure how
Speaker 2: many four and five star recruits Prime had before he
Speaker 2: got to Colorado. Mm hm, But he's gonna take some time.
Speaker 2: But I was very impressed with the way they played today.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at Ojo, they had fourteen
Speaker 2: points in the first quarter, they got thirteen in the
Speaker 2: second quarter, they got another fourteen in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: was another seven, So they were complete. They didn't take
Speaker 2: their foot off the gas. They did an unbelievable job
Speaker 2: today of running the football. I thought they did a
Speaker 2: better job of protecting the football. I thought they did
Speaker 2: a great job of getting after the quarterback, attacking the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, did a good job in past coverage.
Speaker 2: There's nothing you know. Look, I'm sure coach Prime Is said, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm pleased with the win. But I heard coach Saby said.
Speaker 2: You know what he said, to win and play poorly
Speaker 2: is a kiss of death. I sent the way it
Speaker 2: was explained to me. You never accept anything in a win,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have a loss. But people don't understand that
Speaker 2: because you know why, they just, hey, we won the
Speaker 2: ball game. You can't let your players accept that type
Speaker 2: of attitude because that.
Speaker 3: Will get you beat. That'll get you beat.
Speaker 2: I don't want to wait till I get beat to
Speaker 2: get your undivided attention. I want to be in a
Speaker 2: situation where I can get your attention. That way, we
Speaker 2: don't be in this find ourselves in that situation. But
Speaker 2: I tried to tell y'all this was gonna happen. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe you'll listen next time.
Speaker 3: I loved.
Speaker 2: I love what coach Saban said. I love the way
Speaker 2: Prime Prime said. We can't be we can't be happy
Speaker 2: with just winning. That's not good enough.
Speaker 6: Who they got next, on who they got next?
Speaker 2: Who they played next in at Kansas State or at
Speaker 2: home their home against Kansas State. Kanas State really good.
Speaker 3: But they're good. They're really good, and I want to go.
Speaker 3: I want to go to the game. You get the ticket. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you called Rime, He'll get you one.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: I'm fun to go to the game.
Speaker 5: I hope it's cold too, so I can put on
Speaker 5: my Dickies, my love Dicky overalls in my hoodie and.
Speaker 3: My Tim's uh.
Speaker 2: Travis Horner wore a bland T shirt after Richard Sherman comments.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of buzzs on social media about
Speaker 2: some of the pregame interaction.
Speaker 3: We got that bit. What do we got what happened?
Speaker 6: We got what Sharon said about Buddy.
Speaker 3: We got, we got SARMs.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, he said he he was saying that his
Speaker 2: skills are defensively second or none. He's he's a true corner,
Speaker 2: he has tremendous instincts, great ball skills. But he said
Speaker 2: that he was playing as a receiver. I get what
Speaker 2: Sherman said that he's not a like like Chase and
Speaker 2: Jefferson polished receivers.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, that's what he said.
Speaker 2: Like he's an athlete playing receiver and because he's so
Speaker 2: much more athletic than a lot of people that's defending him,
Speaker 2: he's gonna make a play.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So that's not.
Speaker 5: The way he I think I think coach ll.
Speaker 2: I think time put sherm and and uh travel in
Speaker 2: contact with each other and they were able to have
Speaker 2: a conversation. Look, he says as a receiver, I just
Speaker 2: think he's kind of playing. Sherman, a former NFL cornerback,
Speaker 2: Remember shearm was a wide receiver he got he went
Speaker 2: to Stanford as a wide receiver, he ended up moving
Speaker 2: to a defensive back. Said on the Lions Am St.
Speaker 2: Brown podcast, Saint Brown as Sherman if he thinks Hunter
Speaker 2: can play both wide receiver and cornerback.
Speaker 3: In the NFL.
Speaker 2: Sherman said, hell, no, you know that right, You're talking crazy,
Speaker 2: But there's been a lot. There's been a lot. You
Speaker 2: and I think, yes, he can play packages.
Speaker 3: But nobody.
Speaker 2: I don't believe anybody fake he's gonna play every snap
Speaker 2: on offense, every snap on defense.
Speaker 3: Nobody believes that. Do we believe that he can be.
Speaker 2: A defensive back and have a package of plays on
Speaker 2: the offense. Yes, yes, because we've seen it before. We've
Speaker 2: seen Prime do it, Champ Bailey, Charles Woodson. That's been
Speaker 2: a couple of guys. JJ Watt had a couple of
Speaker 2: packages as a defensive alignment. But to play every snap.
Speaker 2: So the NFL say, to try to play one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty snaps in an NFL game.
Speaker 6: Right listen, You'll have to have the endurance of the
Speaker 6: Ethio of you know, the Ethiopian runners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fifth year. That's the kind of endurance you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to have.
Speaker 5: But when I when I think about it, I mean
Speaker 5: when when when I think about Travis Hunter and how
Speaker 5: special he is even at even at the receiver position,
Speaker 5: I understand what where Sherman's talking about in a sense,
Speaker 5: but I understand I'm also understanding how much work and
Speaker 5: how much time he has to work on his craft.
Speaker 3: From her receive a standpoint.
Speaker 6: He's so athletic and get it once they sharpen up
Speaker 6: all the tools.
Speaker 3: Man, it's a rap if he getting drafted.
Speaker 5: He has to get drafted, as I conceive anyway, because
Speaker 5: that's what the money is.
Speaker 3: That's what the money I see, Travis, to give them
Speaker 3: the money? Worthy? Where forget the money? Where can I
Speaker 3: where can I thrive?
Speaker 2: Where is my best chance to be the most productive
Speaker 2: player I could possibly be.
Speaker 3: I think it's side of the don't do.
Speaker 6: Like that, don't do me like that he got he
Speaker 6: got to play receiver.
Speaker 3: On he got to play receiver because you got.
Speaker 5: To understand the money is on the receiving end now,
Speaker 5: and then the packages, the packages at the dB.
Speaker 3: Boom, they got to give you like a little bonus
Speaker 3: for that. Oh Joe, you think what packages he.
Speaker 5: Gonna I'm saying when he when he gets to the NFL,
Speaker 5: he gonna have small packages like nickel.
Speaker 3: He could be he could be a niggas on the third.
Speaker 2: I bet I bet you he'll play more snaps on
Speaker 2: defense and offense.
Speaker 3: And I think he get.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5: Listen listen as his agent, as his agent, he probably
Speaker 5: gonna have me. But as his agent, I'm telling him, Man, buddy, man,
Speaker 5: listen here, man, let me tell let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: You want to play receiver.
Speaker 6: You got receivers making thirty million a year.
Speaker 5: So by the time it's time for you to get paid,
Speaker 5: you talked about forty five maybe fifty. Matter of fact,
Speaker 5: they got to pay you fifty because you play both sides.
Speaker 3: Of the ball. We can integrate that into your contract.
Speaker 3: You know, and and and you.
Speaker 6: Know to find the fine print what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Nah, you don't want him on the defense end underpaid.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at it from a skill set and
Speaker 2: where his skills are right now, he's a much better
Speaker 2: defensive back than he is a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: I don't agree with you, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't agree with you simply for the fact that
Speaker 5: what he's doing on defense is instinctive based on watching
Speaker 5: film and knowing what's coming, as opposed to looking at
Speaker 5: him what he can do at receiver.
Speaker 3: Oh, Joe, let me ask you a question. How many?
Speaker 3: How many? How many come back? Then? How many comebacks
Speaker 3: have you seen him run?
Speaker 5: Huh?
Speaker 3: How many comebacks have you seen him run? Well, I'm
Speaker 3: not what you mean. You have it. That's a wide
Speaker 3: receiver and you haven't seen him in two years. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6: Wait wait a minute, wait a minute, don't jump down.
Speaker 3: My throat now, I'm just asking nor run comeback.
Speaker 6: I've seen him he probably, you can probably run come back.
Speaker 3: Probably, I said, oh yo, how many comebacks have you
Speaker 3: seen him run? Well?
Speaker 6: Maybe they don't have comebacks in that offense.
Speaker 5: You asked me, how many come backs have I seen
Speaker 5: him run? Well, they don't have comebacks in that offense.
Speaker 5: What you want me to say?
Speaker 3: How many digs? Oh? I have seen him on the dig.
Speaker 3: I've seen him Uney didn't come out the back door.
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, yeah, I seen him take a I
Speaker 5: seen him. I seen him catch a slant and reverse
Speaker 5: and reverse field and come back out.
Speaker 3: We ran a slant at oh Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, looking at him, study for the since
Speaker 2: he since he's in at Colorado, watch him a little
Speaker 2: bit of Jackson State, because a lot of when they
Speaker 2: came on the s BEN I will pay attention. But
Speaker 2: watching him, I think his skill set for dB is far,
Speaker 2: far superior, because, like I said, he's a natural dB.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: He could just he just rolled out of bed like hey,
Speaker 2: I got old boy right here, his back, his back fedal,
Speaker 2: the way he can backfedal and the way he can transition. Now,
Speaker 2: you know, in order to play receiver, these guys are
Speaker 2: choke you out here if you can't release.
Speaker 5: Oh see that I don't know about I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know about that part of his game. I
Speaker 5: don't know about that. His ladder movement is uh.
Speaker 2: He seems like a long stride of though right he is?
Speaker 3: He tall, he taller than your fath he like six street. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we could work on that. We could work on that.
Speaker 3: He tall, he's taller than your think.
Speaker 5: We could work on that. He comes, he comes training
Speaker 5: with me, training me for three months. Man, listen, I
Speaker 5: get him open in the phone booth. I get him
Speaker 5: open into the phone booth. But then all we got
Speaker 5: to do is show showing up your gates, showing.
Speaker 3: Up your steps.
Speaker 5: And once once you once you, once you get, once
Speaker 5: you get at that dead area off the line, then
Speaker 5: you can open.
Speaker 3: Up all you want. I just like I said, I
Speaker 3: think he's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: He's as good as athlete that I've seen with my
Speaker 2: own eyes, and I've seen some pretty good ones. Like
Speaker 2: I said, but your your I was in the year,
Speaker 2: came into year after time, and so I watched him,
Speaker 2: and I was in the league when bo was in
Speaker 2: the league. They're two of the greatest athletes. You know,
Speaker 2: when you can play a professional sport two baseball and.
Speaker 3: Football two, I played three. But go ahead, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody in NFL played two sports, three sports
Speaker 2: in high school.
Speaker 3: But to do it professionally, right, that was me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's it's unbelievable. Like I said, I I I
Speaker 2: just I just want to see him. I think he's
Speaker 2: better suited. At the end of the day, he's gonna
Speaker 2: I don't think he has to make a decision. I
Speaker 2: think I think team's gonna help him make that decision.
Speaker 2: They're gonna say, son, we're gonna give you some pack
Speaker 2: just on the officer side of the football. See Ojo,
Speaker 2: you're looking at it from a pure monetary standpoint. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at it. I'm looking at it from the best
Speaker 2: look for me a monetary standpoint, tell a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: But where could I make my bones? What could I
Speaker 2: be the best at tight end?
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, I'm not if the fact.
Speaker 2: I give you an example. Now, if he had Tyreek's speed,
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, you're right.
Speaker 3: You don't have to have that kind of speed. That's
Speaker 3: that's so.
Speaker 2: But you have to don't have that kind of speed.
Speaker 2: What can they do? Tell the people at home? For
Speaker 2: guys that don't have Tyreek speed and they've played wide receiver,
Speaker 2: what can they do? Oyo, you couldn't touch them in
Speaker 2: the phone booth. They tactic they're technically sound. There's a
Speaker 2: reason why Steve Margin when he retired, had all the records.
Speaker 2: He ran four seven. But he was a route running technician.
Speaker 2: Guy that can't that aren't speed merchants. They can run
Speaker 2: the route tree and make every route look the same.
Speaker 2: The release, the slant looks just like the quick out
Speaker 2: looks just like the smoke looks just like the over
Speaker 2: looks just like the end to come back.
Speaker 3: He's fast though, he fast. He FO three three And.
Speaker 5: If you're not FO three here will be by the time.
Speaker 5: It's by the time in draft time like FO two
Speaker 5: is great. That's a that's a great tool to have
Speaker 5: in your tool box. But you don't literally have to
Speaker 5: be FOE two to be effective.
Speaker 3: Look at Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2: I just chase, Oh Choe, you're talking about the leaf
Speaker 2: receivers that run routes.
Speaker 3: You just said you haven't seen him run the whole tree.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm a having because it's not a part
Speaker 5: of their offense there, I mean their specific offense.
Speaker 3: But what I do see him?
Speaker 6: Do I know what he can do when you get
Speaker 6: that ball in his hands?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh Choe, do you know?
Speaker 2: Oh yo, you know how good these dvs are if
Speaker 2: you if you can't consistently release in your chest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any weakness we're gonna work on that. We're gonna
Speaker 3: work on that. I got you, That's what That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I don't know even if his releases will ever
Speaker 2: be where his dB skills are. Some things he just
Speaker 2: got just just God, he just hey, he just woke up.
Speaker 2: God made that angle, that long anglar body. He can
Speaker 2: be fluid, he can back because normally, you know, guys
Speaker 2: that are corners, that are long, you know, it's hard
Speaker 2: for them to flip the hips. He can flip his hips. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he can flip his hips. And that's what you gotta
Speaker 2: be able to do because you got to be able
Speaker 2: to turn and run. You gotta be able to turn
Speaker 2: and drive. You gotta be uh uh and come forward.
Speaker 3: Well, you know I iced to give him a hell
Speaker 3: boy back in eighty seven. Way huh shit. But I
Speaker 3: know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But and I and I you know, I told you,
Speaker 2: and Time said this, Tom said, had I just like
Speaker 2: focused on being a wide receiver, just focused on that,
Speaker 2: I could have went to the Hall of Fame, and he
Speaker 2: could have because he had that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: I realizing the time is go to oh too. It
Speaker 3: looked like he ain't got damn running. Damn it, it didn't,
Speaker 3: it didn't, but he could fly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys are oh, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you guys are old enough to like, I
Speaker 2: just wish, like some things that you needed to see,
Speaker 2: Like TV doesn't do it justice.
Speaker 3: No, you got to see that person. To watch Barry.
Speaker 2: Sanders in person, to watch Prime, to watch Jerry, to
Speaker 2: watch Steph Curry shoot of basketball, to watch Lebron, to
Speaker 2: watch Jordan, to watch Kobe. Some things can only be
Speaker 2: seen through the eyes. Yeah, watch Serena. To hear that
Speaker 2: ball come off Serena's racket. I know sometimes it gets
Speaker 2: drowned out, but to hear it, you like, oh my,
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like if you're from the South,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about, when you took the
Speaker 2: rug out and you're hung it over the fence or
Speaker 2: the clothesline, and you took the broom and.
Speaker 3: Your boot boom. Yeah, Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2: The ball sounds like jumping off Serena's racket. Then you
Speaker 2: got an appreciation. Okay, now I see what y'all talking about.
Speaker 2: To see Reggie at his prime to see to see that,
Speaker 2: to see the Bruce and see the ed Reids and
Speaker 2: the Ray Lewis is some things you really literally had
Speaker 2: to see. Yeah, in the States, you need to be
Speaker 2: in the stadium to really really appreciate it. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I mean I enjoy I mean I enjoyed watching it,
Speaker 2: watching him play. I mean, he's a phenomenal talent. I
Speaker 2: love watching him play. Oh till we got to move
Speaker 2: on to this next. There's a lot of them, So
Speaker 2: why are we rushing? We got no, we got another topic.
Speaker 2: We got another topic. There's a lot of buzzs on
Speaker 2: social media about some pregame interaction between Cam Newton, Shador Sanders,
Speaker 2: and Travis Punter. Now, okay, here, okay, here, okay, this pregame.
Speaker 3: What happened? Here for context, this is what we hold on.
Speaker 3: Can you see it? Yeah, I can see it. I
Speaker 3: can see it. I can see it. What they what they?
Speaker 3: It's hard to tell.
Speaker 5: I mean, look at looking at the mannerism and body language,
Speaker 5: it looked like they could be playing, but without without audio,
Speaker 5: it's hard to tell.
Speaker 3: It is it is? And well, and there was some
Speaker 3: interaction earlier. Okay, yeah, okay, they're good. They're good, They're good.
Speaker 2: There were some interactions earlier in the pregame with your
Speaker 2: Door and Cam and your door didn't see here it.
Speaker 3: Is right here. He wasn't very receptive. I'm gonna try
Speaker 3: to give you some context. O yo parody.
Speaker 2: What happened? Cam said on his fourth and one podcast.
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what Cam said and what
Speaker 2: may be caused your Door's reaction.
Speaker 1: Look, my whole thing with your Door is this. You
Speaker 1: followed him since he was at Jackson State, correct.
Speaker 3: Even when he was in high school? Right? What when.
Speaker 1: Can he hang?
Speaker 3: Like? What performance? Can you hang your head on?
Speaker 1: Can you hang your head on?
Speaker 3: In college?
Speaker 5: The only thing I have was like that that tcut
Speaker 5: at Nebraska game his first year.
Speaker 1: This year we're talking about t c U and they
Speaker 1: ended up not being a good team.
Speaker 3: Nebraska last year's up ain't like he beat That's true.
Speaker 3: And you can't say, well you you was at Auburn,
Speaker 3: he was at Colorado. Was like Auburn wasn't no favorite
Speaker 3: to win before you got that, nobody was picking Arburn
Speaker 3: to win the national champ for sure.
Speaker 5: I don't even think they even thought you was gonna
Speaker 5: have a winning season before you got Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was motherfuckers on our team that didn't even think that
Speaker 1: we was capable of.
Speaker 3: All I'm gonna say is this, And don't get a
Speaker 3: mistaken that beaming over.
Speaker 1: There, be careful with them comparisons.
Speaker 6: I guess I can see. I can see why you're
Speaker 6: doing being upset.
Speaker 3: That two days ago. Yo, just just yes, he said
Speaker 3: he said this two days ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you wanted to provide context to maybe why
Speaker 2: because you know, first of all, Taudeur is a pure
Speaker 2: pocket passer.
Speaker 3: He's not. He's not an athlete like Cam. He can't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't move like Cam. He's not Kyler Murray. He's
Speaker 2: not Lamar Jackson. That's not what he is.
Speaker 5: He is the way completely different based on teams in
Speaker 5: the times and when they played.
Speaker 2: We can't move like those guys he got when he
Speaker 2: went to the what you call him, Those guys were athletes.
Speaker 2: He is a pocket. He's a drop back, prototypical pocket passer.
Speaker 3: That's what he is.
Speaker 2: So the comparison can't be with a camp because Cam
Speaker 2: rushed for damn the fifty other yards, Lamar rush for
Speaker 2: fifty other yards.
Speaker 3: Kyler rushed for I think Kyler rushed.
Speaker 2: For over one thousand yards, trudeor he might not even
Speaker 2: rushed for one thousand yards in his career.
Speaker 3: He might have be like Brady, right.
Speaker 5: But I'm also I'm also speaking in context, not just
Speaker 5: to the comparison of the quarterbacks that they are, but
Speaker 5: also the comparison in the context of the team that
Speaker 5: they're playing for and playing with at that time. Completed
Speaker 5: apples and orangest completely different, you know, But based on
Speaker 5: the time that Shudur is in right now, he is
Speaker 5: still one of the best.
Speaker 3: Despite yes, maybe despite maybe not.
Speaker 5: Having any games to hang his tail on and not
Speaker 5: having him he's still one of the best.
Speaker 2: But that's not what they said when he went the
Speaker 2: TCU and threw for five hundred yards, because remember TCU
Speaker 2: had just lost in the National Championship game to Georgia.
Speaker 2: People thought they were pretty good, so he did that.
Speaker 2: Now they not any good?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, I mean to each it's it's
Speaker 5: it's football, it's it's sports.
Speaker 6: Everybody's gonna have an opinion. Some opinion you're gonna agree with.
Speaker 5: Some some opinion's not gonna like sometimes rub people.
Speaker 3: The wrong way. Sometimes I'm gonna ruffle some feathers.
Speaker 6: Now what I would like for the players to have.
Speaker 5: You know, when when it's I call him the ogs,
Speaker 5: when the ogs like the Cam Newton's you know, he
Speaker 5: Heisman went. You know you you take what they say
Speaker 5: with the grain and salt, but also respect some of
Speaker 5: these things they're just saying because they've.
Speaker 3: Already done it. They've done.
Speaker 5: But it's such a it's tough because today's era of
Speaker 5: kids or I don't want to use the word sensitive,
Speaker 5: but if you say something, they are they gonna remember everything.
Speaker 5: If you say, they're gonna remember everything you said and
Speaker 5: they gonna hang on to it.
Speaker 3: Now they're gonna hang on, even even the professionals.
Speaker 2: Because if you try to critique a player and they
Speaker 2: don't like what you say, you hate.
Speaker 3: But when you when you say I'm hating, I've.
Speaker 2: Given all all the players that come after me, I
Speaker 2: give them there.
Speaker 3: I got no problem. They say, look.
Speaker 2: Gronk and get and god gronking gonz whatever.
Speaker 3: I got no problem. I got the most out of
Speaker 3: my ability.
Speaker 2: People like, well, you don't criticize the black quarterbacks like
Speaker 2: you criticize Do y'all realize that, do y'all realize?
Speaker 3: I want to say this with yo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ended up leaving Fox because I criticized the
Speaker 2: guy that had seven Super Bowls. But y'all say, y'all
Speaker 2: just heard me I said about Joe Burrow. Y'all heard
Speaker 2: what I said about when I used to beat up
Speaker 2: Tony Romo. Y'all heard what I said about Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: Brent Farr. Y'all just look, I get it, I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: I'm black.
Speaker 2: But if a black quarterback doesn't play well, y'all can't
Speaker 2: expect me to go out there and say the man
Speaker 2: played well when he didn't.
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 2: I don't care what they're what the white commentators do,
Speaker 2: but I can't because I don't.
Speaker 3: We don't get that luxury.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get no thirty seven million dollars deal
Speaker 2: right at the box. If I do that too much,
Speaker 2: they gonna get my black ass off TV. So I've
Speaker 2: got to be honest in what I see. I'm not
Speaker 2: hating on nobody. I appreciate and understand what they've gone through.
Speaker 2: I remember when the black when Warren Moon had to
Speaker 2: go to Canada after winning the Rose Bowl. I'm old
Speaker 2: enough to remember. I remember a Shaq Harris who's a
Speaker 2: friend of mine. I know it, I know their history.
Speaker 2: But guys, when I critique a player, it ain't a
Speaker 2: jealous bone in my body. Y'all do know my resume, Mom, Peter,
Speaker 2: what it is. What they're doing. It cannot race what
Speaker 2: Shannon Shark did at Baltimore and in differ So I
Speaker 2: but come on, guys, and y'all get upset, Well you
Speaker 2: bro can y'all honestly think I don't watch the games.
Speaker 2: I mean, the lady told me today. I was trying
Speaker 2: to say Chelsea Gray blah blah blah. I said, I
Speaker 2: don't want y'all to look at her for what she
Speaker 2: did in the Olympics because she's coming out for an injury.
Speaker 2: But I think they can win. I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be tough. Oh shows that goal to show you, Shanna
Speaker 2: don't watch basketball. They won the championship without Chelsea. Know
Speaker 2: they didn't. Chelsea Gray played the first two games. She
Speaker 2: played superb. She got hurt in Game three. Now you win,
Speaker 2: gotta win three because it's the best three out of five.
Speaker 2: She got hurt in game three. They won Game four
Speaker 2: in New York or they were gonna have to come
Speaker 2: back to Las Vegas. You see, you see how people
Speaker 2: just throw that out there and a lot of people
Speaker 2: bought it. Yep, I knew he didn't watch the games. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 2: y'all know I watched the games. That's why I can
Speaker 2: tell you a specific play what happened. I don't watch
Speaker 2: the game to see who scores. I could care less.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to decipher how they scored,
Speaker 2: why they scored, What was the formation, what was the defense?
Speaker 2: What was the Coveragejojo, what was the front? Based on
Speaker 2: the front, based on the coverage, that ball shouldn't have
Speaker 2: been That should have been a knockdown. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking for. That's why I don't watch
Speaker 2: the sound because I don't want them to try to
Speaker 2: convince me. Nah, I know what I'm looking for. I
Speaker 2: know what I'm looking for. But I'm never gonna be
Speaker 2: jealous because I want the guys to make all the
Speaker 2: money because I remember when I came in Ojoe, when
Speaker 2: I started making big money. Hell, I'm sure Ozzie and
Speaker 2: Keller like with Damn, they're paying that kind of money now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I look at I'm looking at these guys.
Speaker 2: Now, these guys now making damn near tight ends, making
Speaker 2: damn there more in one year than I made in
Speaker 2: a career. But that's the evolution of the position, and
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. But I got to be honest, guys,
Speaker 2: I got to be. That's the only way I can be.
Speaker 2: And uh if if I can't when they say with Shannon,
Speaker 2: you can't say this. And I've been very fortunate. I've
Speaker 2: never been on a network where they try to sway me.
Speaker 2: I know, y'all think they tell me to say bruh.
Speaker 2: You think some of the stuff I'll be saying they
Speaker 2: tell me to say. They probably be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: did he did he just say that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did, and people people get upset on Yoe. Oh
Speaker 2: you see how he talk to women? You see how
Speaker 2: he talk to women. I don't debate gender. I debate
Speaker 2: whoever's in that chair. It could it could be a
Speaker 2: Saint Bernard sitting there. He gonna get it to Stephen
Speaker 2: A Swags d o rc uh, Andre Monica. It does
Speaker 2: not matter. Now, you can't ask to be treated equal.
Speaker 2: But when we come up from a topic that requires
Speaker 2: us to get a little animated and voices to ride.
Speaker 3: Oh don't talk. No, no, no, no, no, that's not no no.
Speaker 2: What we're gonna do now, y'all need to go in
Speaker 2: and skip me that there, go and pay me for
Speaker 2: that day and let me take off because I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep it staying. I'm coming. I'm coming because y'all know
Speaker 2: what y'all get when y'all get me. Y'all already know
Speaker 2: I have a voice. I have a voice that projects
Speaker 2: me to When have you ever known me not to
Speaker 2: be a passionate about something that I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: Name the time I want y'all to name the time that.
Speaker 2: Y'all seen Shannon Shark in the format that I've been
Speaker 2: in since twenty sixteen not be passionate about a particular topic.
Speaker 3: You had no problem when I was passionate Aboutkaeperdick.
Speaker 2: You had no problem when I was passionate about George Floyd.
Speaker 2: You had no problems when I was passionate about the
Speaker 2: Red Sox and what they said to the players or
Speaker 2: what that Seattle Planyer. You had no problems with that,
Speaker 2: but not shaying Can you dial it back just a
Speaker 2: little bit right, okay?
Speaker 3: I don't no, don't turn up to turn it up,
Speaker 3: turn it up. Hey what a little John say? Turned
Speaker 3: down for what
Speaker 2: The volume