1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: It is crisis that makes a show, single best idea, 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: and the crisis not so much coming out of Monday 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: or Sunday evening when we realized in Tokyo the world 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: was blowing up, but just really an extended crazy summer 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: culminating in last week, which was as nuts as I've 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: ever seen day after day, and then into the funny 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: games of Monday morning and the recovery that we've seen 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Tuesday and Wednesday. It's just about conversations where so many people, 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: quite frankly, are all saying the same thing. They're all 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: reading from the same Hymnoal, but there's nuances and distinctions. 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Here are two of the fifteen conversations I could give 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: you with distinctions, and here first is a bomb show. 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: No one has done the bond market better than Ian Lingen, 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: with a shout out to David Rosenberg in Toronto, but 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Ian Lingen and BMO Capital Markets absolutely nailed sub four 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: percent ten year yield price up, yield down. He goes further, 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 2: Ian Lingen, looking out twenty four months. 19 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: Well, we will be pushing back below three percent. Now, 20 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: that's not going to be this year. But that is 21 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: certainly on the horizon for let's call it the next 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: twenty four months. 23 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: You are modeling sub three percent, ten year, two point 24 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: ninety five percent. 25 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 3: Now by the end of two thousand and twenty six, very. 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: Doable, extraordinary. I can't tell you how lonely that call is. 27 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: Right now, we will see Ian Lingoln with BMO Capital Markets, 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: a very nuanced call which is linked directly into the economy. 29 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: And he kept circling back to where brusquee JP Morgan is, 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: which is not us disinflation and the worries we all 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: have at the grocery store, but the idea of global disinflation. 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: And I'm going to circle back. As I've said on 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: the show, I'm sorry from boring you, but way Lee's 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: comment from black Rock last week of her modeling of 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: her China it's three percent real GDP is without question 36 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: the most important thing for America. I've heard you get 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: a China slow down from five well from seven percent 38 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: ages ago to five percent, and you come down and 39 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: Stan Fisher would say five to three is two divided 40 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: by five. I think my math is that's a forty 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: percent lessening of real GDP. Oomph in China, I do okay, 42 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: and that Eric good I got it. I'm the only 43 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: one doing a podcast and the engineer has a Kufel 44 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: and us or slide rule out being sure my math 45 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: is okay andling in there with a shocking call below 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: three percent. Andre Chal Friedman holds at Bloomberg in London, 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: Queen Victoria Street, and she is writing for Bloomberg Intelligence. 48 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: You see it on the terminal. We keep it very 49 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: exclusive in that and she has a very twisted view 50 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: because she's truly continental. She's she's just got a different 51 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: view than what I'm gonna call Anglo Saxon and particularly 52 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: American FX analysis, ourd child Freeman trying to frame out yen. Remember, folks, 53 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: from one sixty dollars yen stronger yen down to one 54 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: forty something in the shock of trying to get back 55 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: to a weaker yen. 56 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: We've gone to one two inch a day. On Monday, 57 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: were back at one forty seven today just on the 58 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: bog rapes mentioned this morning. Yesterday we were at one 59 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: forty five. So what I need to see first is 60 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: is the new kind of range that we base ourselves 61 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: from one forty five to one fifty and that's where 62 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I kind of expected to be. And if so, what 63 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: do we do? And what I do is I wait for, 64 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, the next trigger to move lower. And I 65 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: kind of feel that that next trigger may come from 66 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: the US, but it won't be as extreme as what 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past few sessions. 68 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: In weeks odit. Jeff Friedman there on FX and on 69 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: the Japan effect really can't say enough about the value 70 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: I we're trying to do an economics, finance and investment 71 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: and international relations. It has just been I mean, it's 72 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: been like an eight month long summer. Is sort of 73 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: where we are. We're sort of benumb by it. We're 74 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: going to continue the energy forward here into this August 75 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, really yesterday was the first 76 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: day I put radar on Jackson Hall. This will be 77 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: a different Jackson Hall. We've got a different plan, a 78 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: different schedule, but many of the same people. I want 79 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: to keep the names private now because everybody's schedules are 80 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: in flux over who will be there. But all of 81 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: a sudden, Jerome Poull's speech at Jackson Hole is front 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: and center. We do that near in the vicinity of 83 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: August twenty second, we're out on Android Auto, Apple car Play, 84 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: both of them coming out with new software to win 85 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: the digital radio game. On YouTube, we are humbled by 86 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: the last three days response, thank you. And on YouTube 87 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: it's just simple. 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