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Speaker 1: Now Podcasts this show. We got a Super Bowl matchup

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Speaker 1: A couple of questions for the two teams that lost.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for this Bengals team.

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Speaker 1: I mean they have been a bunch of badasses the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years that they have been complete war daddies,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just a fan of offensive football.

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Speaker 1: It is very, very fun to watch. But as someone

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Speaker 1: told me in the league, moving forward to something to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on, like, okay, now it's time to

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Speaker 1: break a couple of guys off. Joe Burrow and t

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Speaker 1: Higgins were taken in the same year in the draft.

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Speaker 1: In two twenty. Well, Burrow has the fifth year option,

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Speaker 1: but you always want to get ahead of it when

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Speaker 1: you have a star quarterback. And the Bengals have been

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Speaker 1: pretty open over the last couple of years, selling the

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Speaker 1: name and rights to the stadium, which they've never done.

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Speaker 1: But they needed some more income. They're gonna pay this

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Speaker 1: guy a lot of money. Well, te Higgins is also

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Speaker 1: pretty sweet, and Tie Higgins is going into his fourth year.

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Speaker 1: Time to pay him to because if you're gonna build

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Speaker 1: this team, you're probably gonna have the draft lineman and

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Speaker 1: signed Chase Higgins and Burrow, and I would imagine they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to invest in those two guys. Those two

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Speaker 1: guys are on cheap contracts. Burrows the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: so he's it's not like he makes seven grand, but

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Speaker 1: making ten million dollars is a lot make different than

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Speaker 1: making fifty million dollars. And Tee Higgins, as I think

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Speaker 1: he was the first pick in the second round, making

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Speaker 1: whatever that is, one million dollars is a lot different,

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Speaker 1: like he's a twenty million dollar receiver. So just between

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Speaker 1: those two guys, now you can manipulate the cap, amortize

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Speaker 1: the signing bonus, it's still gonna be a heavy, heavy

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Speaker 1: investment into those two guys. I would guess Burrow seventy

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Speaker 1: five million dollars guaranteed to me, Higgins is you know,

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Speaker 1: Mari a couple of years ago was a five for

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Speaker 1: twenty or five for a hundred, you know, sixty guaranteed

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Speaker 1: twenty a year to me, Higgins is that would be

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Speaker 1: like the starting point. So they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: heavily invest in these two guys. But they keep their

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Speaker 1: coaching staff together. Coach Lou stud on defense, Zach Taylor's

518
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Speaker 1: proven to be like his teams are not just prepared,

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Speaker 1: they're tough. You gotta be pretty bullish and pretty happy

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Speaker 1: if you're a Bengal fan, because you're just always going

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Speaker 1: to be in the mix if you keep drafting well,

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Speaker 1: which the Bengals historically have done a good job. Right

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Speaker 1: when the Marvin Lewis they were very competitive. Why because

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Speaker 1: they drafted well. So if you can draft well round

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Speaker 1: these core guys, you got a chance. And listen to Niners.

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Speaker 1: The number one things everyone is talking about as the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Rock Purdy is gonna be the starter assuming his arm

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Speaker 1: didn't fall off, and Tray Lance is probably going anywhere. Now,

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna sign Tom Brady or not? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a storyline over the next month and

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Speaker 1: a half. But Tom Brady can't move. He's forty six

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Speaker 1: years old. And Cow's offense, you gotta move. So, like

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Speaker 1: I know for a fact, Tray Lance and Brock Purdy

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Speaker 1: A're gonna be on this team. A fact would be strong.

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Speaker 1: I guess they could trade tray Lance, but I'd be

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Speaker 1: pretty I'd feel pretty confident those two guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: be around. To me, the number one question about They've

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Speaker 1: made the NFC Championship game right three of the last

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Speaker 1: four years, and even in two thousand twenty when Jimmy

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Speaker 1: got hurt and they just had a disaster of injuries,

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Speaker 1: basically every position their defense was really good. So basically

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00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: for four straight years, their defense has been awesome. And

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00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: they went from those two years with Robert Sala in

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty and then these last two years with Demiko Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Both guys are head coaches, and both guys are just studs,

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Speaker 1: and you get a lot of credit as a head

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Speaker 1: coach for winning playoff games. Kyla's six playoff wins in

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Speaker 1: the last four years. He gets a lot of credit

549
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: for being an innovative guy. One thing, he's done a

550
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Speaker 1: really good job of the offensive coordinator. So whoever his

551
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is is the head coach of the defense,

552
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Speaker 1: and it's hard to hit three straight really good future

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Speaker 1: head coaches. He did it with Robert Salo, who was

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Speaker 1: not some highly touted guy. It was pretty clear within

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Speaker 1: a couple of years to Miko was gonna be the

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Speaker 1: guy that took over for Salo. Who's gonna be his

557
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? Now there are rumors that Vick fan Joe

558
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: could be his defensive coordinator, even though their scheme is

559
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Speaker 1: dramatically different than Vick's three four scheme. Maybe if you

560
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Speaker 1: just take the philosophical belief you just always hire the best,

561
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: and he's the best, like I can't argue. And they

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00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of versatilet like Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw,

563
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Speaker 1: Eric Armstead, Nick Bosa. They would thrive in any defense.

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Speaker 1: But whoever is next defensive coordinator is, Uh, it's gonna

565
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Speaker 1: be a big deal because they have really relied on

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Speaker 1: this defense to have a lot of success, whether they're

567
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Speaker 1: the number one defense the number four defense like they've

568
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Speaker 1: been a big time defense, so I will be fascinated

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Speaker 1: to see who's next higher is and I think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna go. Like, to me, my biggest question mark if

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Speaker 1: they're gonna sustain the success. I know they'll figure it

572
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Speaker 1: out on offense, you know, because they always kind of do.

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Speaker 1: They have a lot of good players and basically Debo,

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Speaker 1: I you Kittle, McCaffrey, Trent Williams, all these dudes are

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Speaker 1: coming back, both guards, uh Purdy, it to me is

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator and that's probably play out in the

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Speaker 1: next week. Okay, before I get into my theory on

578
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I uh, I kind of got a theory

579
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Speaker 1: on Demiko from all I'm recording this Monday afternoon. By

580
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: all reports is that he could have gone to the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, and my theory on the Denver Broncos iss

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Speaker 1: I do wonder like their ownership a ton of money

583
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Speaker 1: and even though the structures a weird with the son

584
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Speaker 1: in law, one thing is pretty clear is that they're

585
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Speaker 1: gonna do whatever it takes to win. That they put

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Speaker 1: four thousand dollars in the last game when it came

587
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Speaker 1: to resting the field. I do wonder if their toxicity

588
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: is the quarterback who, let's face it, it's just not liked.

589
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy can come out. That's fine. The other guys

590
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Speaker 1: that are around him for a decade. No one in

591
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Seattle has the guys back. I was with someone the

592
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Speaker 1: other night that has some connections NFL players at a restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Actually we were talking about him and he was like,

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Speaker 1: he's a weirdo. I do wonder if people are just

595
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Speaker 1: turned off by Russell Wilson. Play seems to be diminishing

596
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: and the contract is massive, So it's an easy thing

597
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Speaker 1: to avoid because in theory, you would never go to

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans over the Denver Broncos, Right, but when

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Speaker 1: you factor in they don't have the draft picks because

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Speaker 1: they're stuck with Russell Wilson, Isn't that an easy one

601
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Speaker 1: to avoid? And you go to the Texans where a

602
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: ton of draft picks, they've just fired back to back

603
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: coaches as one and dones, they're not gonna fire you

604
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: was a one and done. You've played there before. And

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: to me, for Demiko, like you have a lot more

606
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: room to kind of grow, to mold the thing in

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Speaker 1: how you want to mold it. So when Demiko becomes

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Houston Texans, which all accounts

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Speaker 1: point to. I wonder if that's a direct reflection of

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Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson situation. And it's gonna be fascinating if

611
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Speaker 1: Denver can't find a head coach like people turned off

612
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Speaker 1: by this guy. I don't even think that's debatable at

613
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Speaker 1: this point. My theory on the Cowboys and Jerry Jones

614
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: is it's kind of an unwritten rule in football that

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Speaker 1: during the conference championship games and during the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: that you don't break news when it comes to Obviously

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of coaching movement, but you just stay quiet. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jerry and the Cowboys are in bed with Fox right there.

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Speaker 1: They are Fox's biggest property because Fox has the NFC

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Speaker 1: and they both print money together, and Jerry clearly both

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Speaker 1: have been good for each other. So when the news

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Speaker 1: broke during the a f C Champs of game, it

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Speaker 1: didn't hit me right away, but hit me today. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones has been one of the most, the most, the

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Speaker 1: most and the really only outspoken proponent that Roger Goodell

626
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Speaker 1: is way overpaid. And I think it stems back to

627
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Speaker 1: when Roger Goodell you know, suspended Zeke and he didn't

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Speaker 1: think it was justified. He's had it out for Roger

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Speaker 1: ever since. And listen, I can be a little vengeful

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Speaker 1: as well. Jerry breaking that story during the a f

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Speaker 1: two that was a massive s f you to Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 1: I'm breaking this story that we're firing Kellen Moore and

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Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy will take back over play calling duties.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do about it? What? There's nothing

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Speaker 1: he can do? That to me was a massive muscle

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Speaker 1: flex and Jerry flipping the bird at Roger now from

638
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Speaker 1: what it actually means is and me and Colin talked

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Speaker 1: about this one. I think Kellen Moore is a good coach.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a good hire by the l

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Speaker 1: A Chargers. And here's a reality for Kellen Moore and

642
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Speaker 1: the l A Chargers is if Brandon Staley in the

643
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: defense is still hit or miss and they get bounced

644
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: in the first round, but Herbert has improved and the

645
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: offense looks really good, they are more likely to hire

646
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is their next head coach than Sean Payton

647
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: because Kellen Moore would cost seven eight million dollars. Sean Payton,

648
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: as we know, cost million dollars. And one thing we

649
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: know with the Chargers they lack a good deal. They

650
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: like their savings account. So I would actually look if

651
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and Herbert. Kellen Moore's had success with Dak Prescott.

652
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: He's been around him since Dak Prescott was a rookie.

653
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: They played together and then once Kellen got right into coaching,

654
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: like he's pretty good with offense. I've been watching Kellen

655
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Speaker 1: Moore's career since boys the State as a player. I

656
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: believe in Kellen Moore. I think he's gonna have success

657
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: with the Charges. If Brandon's daily stumbles, I'd keep it

658
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: on Kellen Moore being the next head coach of the Chargers,

659
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: not Sean Payton. And last, but not least is Mike McCarthy.

660
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Is that if you're Jerry, you signed McCarthy or whatever

661
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: this five year deal we're now going going into your

662
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: four I gotta figure out, like, am I giving this

663
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: guy an extension? What are we doing with this guy? Well,

664
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: he's going, well, you forced me to hire Kellen Moore

665
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: or keep him on the staff and let him call

666
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: plays like, how about you let me run the show.

667
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: I think that's what Jerry did because he loves Kellen Moore.

668
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: He goes, Okay, Mike, you get to run the show.

669
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Clocks on one season. Let's see what you got now.

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00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: One thing, Mike really benefits from dan Quinn still on

671
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: the staff, and their defense is gonna be good, but

672
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of pressure on the offense now.

673
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: They benefit from being in the NFC. I think the

674
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys will be a playoff team next year. Now, I

675
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: don't think the winning one playoff game will be a nuns.

676
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: I think that Mike's gonna have to show that he

677
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: can play toe to toe with the Eagles and to

678
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: compete to win the division. But like now the Eagles

679
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: making the super Bowl, like, can you get us a

680
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: complish championship game? To me, if Mike's like one and

681
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: done next year in the playoffs, he's done because they'll

682
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: be going in his last final year of his contract.

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00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: See later. And I think Jerry's rightfully so putting it

684
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: all on Mike. You're time, buddy. Let's see what you got. Okay,

685
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: let's dive into the mailback. It's this little thing we

686
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: call the d m s in my Instagram at John

687
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those d m s

688
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: and get your question answered here on the show. Uh

689
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: from Scott quick question. I live in northern Arizona. Is

690
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: it worth going down to the valley to experience and

691
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: explore some of the Super Bowl activities. I have been

692
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: to a couple of Super Bowls. When it came to

693
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco, I had a radio show and was at

694
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Radio Row. And then a couple of years ago when

695
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: the Niners played the Chiefs, I went out to Miami.

696
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: You know, I had a podcast, but I really went

697
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: out there kind of screwing around. Uh. I enjoyed it.

698
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: I think there's just a lot going on. There's a

699
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: great vibe. One thing about that week. I mean, I've

700
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: never been here in Scottsdale for waste management, but that

701
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: is by far the big is fun golf tournament of

702
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: the year, which I now. I I'm a member at

703
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: TPC where they have the where they have the tournament.

704
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: The stadium out there is incredible. It is like a

705
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: party meets a football game with their all their stadiums

706
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: and seating, so that meet the Super Bowl it's gonna

707
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: be incredible. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.

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00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: There's a ton going on now. I don't like people

709
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: that much, like I'm doing this for business, so that

710
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: week is gonna be fun. I wouldn't actively seek it,

711
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: but that's my personality. I'm like, uh, introverted, extrovert. I

712
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: would say, but if you want to come down here

713
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: for a day or two, if you're not gonna go

714
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: to the game, go to some I don't even know,

715
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: go to parties, but just kind of take it in.

716
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: The NFL does a good job. I'm pretty sure everything's

717
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. Uh, don't quote me on that. You have

718
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: to ask Rog and his team with the NFL league office.

719
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I if you like people, if

720
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: you like booze, if you like football, I would say, yeah,

721
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: definitely do it. Hello, this is from Tia, my boyfriend

722
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: who doesn't have an Instagram. Listen to you what seems

723
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: to me daily. He wants me to send you a question,

724
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: John Middlcoff, I'd like to get your take on this

725
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: idea I had the other day. We all know that

726
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: Mahomes is the most talented quarterback in the league. And

727
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: already has a ring, but I believe Burrow will end

728
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: his career with more rings. Mahomes would be the Peyton

729
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: manning to Burrows Tom Brady. Peyton, as I saw it,

730
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: was always the more respected quarterback and his star was

731
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: bigger than Tom's. But Tom has the rinks. Do you

732
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: think this could play out the same way between Mahomes

733
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Speaker 1: in Borough. I would say the major difference is Peyton

734
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: was really famous by the time Tom won the Super

735
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Bowl that first year, right when they beat the St.

736
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Louis Uh I almost called him the St. Louis Cardinals St.

737
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Louis Rams, and then a couple of years later they

738
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Speaker 1: won back to back. He had three Super Bowls before

739
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: Peyton had one. The different in this analogy is because

740
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: I do think there's some parallels to Burrow, just I

741
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: think a lot of people compare him to Brady. He's

742
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: obviously a better athlete. If Mahomes wins in two weeks,

743
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: Patrick will have too. So if Patrick never wins another one,

744
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: Burrow would have to get to three. If the Bengals

745
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: and Burrow win three, that seems a little crazy. I

746
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: would say if the Bengals and Burrow were to win two.

747
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: That would be one of the great draft picks and

748
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: you know things of all time. So I would say

749
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: I would say it would be tard. If Patrick wins

750
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, that that that would be my take

751
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: on that one. Now, if Patrick loses, it definitely would

752
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: be in play. But if Mahomes has two Super Bowls

753
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: and he's got Andy Reid, like I would say, it

754
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: would be just as likely he wins another as Burrow

755
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: wins his first one. So I would push back against that.

756
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: But I hear you. Hey. John die Hard, eighteen year

757
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: old Niner super fan from Iowa checking in with a

758
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: difficult question after a weird, weird, sad day of nine

759
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: of football. When it comes to Demko leaving for a

760
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: head coaching job, would there be a sense in thinking

761
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: he has the talent he would ever want right now

762
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: and after the result of this Mickey Mouse NFC Championship game,

763
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: he has a massive chip on his shoulder with the

764
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: squad and wants to run it one more year. Go Niners.

765
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Don't count Tray out yet, No, I just think you

766
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: know money talks. He was a defensive coordinator on two

767
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: teams that went to NFC Championship games. You know, the

768
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: goal of a lot of these guys in coaching. Demiko's

769
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: unique because he made a lot of money playing, but

770
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: clearly he loves coaching is to be the head guy.

771
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: And I say it all the time, like not everyone

772
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: is meant to be the head guy. But I never, uh,

773
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, I always understand when a guy wants to

774
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: leave the number two seats for the number one seat.

775
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: I always pushed back when a guy it's clear you're

776
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: you're not a number one. Demiko is probably a number one.

777
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy who's team captain is like a rookie.

778
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: His nickname was Mustafa. He is beloved. Fred Warner calls

779
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: him the most important person he's ever been around in football,

780
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: changed his life. Ford warns the best middle linebacker and football.

781
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: So I think Demiko Robert Salo was a good candidate.

782
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: I think Demiko is traumatically better. And when you look

783
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: at the Texans um, they got a lot of picks, man,

784
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: and he gets to mold it like he just saw

785
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: he was there with Kyle the whole time and he

786
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: saw that franchise mold everything from the ground up. I

787
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 1: think you get to do that with Houston, and let's

788
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: face it, because Sarrio is gonna have to lean on

789
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Demiko as he should. So if those two can get along,

790
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: I think you know, Houston has a big upside. It's

791
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna take a minute, but it has a really, really

792
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: big upside. I now understand why you hate when former

793
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: reps come on TV. They don't have a clue what

794
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: they're doing and just waste time. The clown on CBS

795
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: was literally literally explaining why the Chiefs got five downs

796
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: towards the end of the game and that the game

797
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: ending personal foul was the correct call. This is probably

798
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: the twenty am you got about the officiating, but I'd

799
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: love to hear you complain about the refs and bozos

800
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: like that come on air and explain why they suck. Also,

801
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: as a casual golf fan, golfer excited to start listening

802
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: to your other pot so the go Low pod will

803
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: probably start after the super Bowl. And that's just you know,

804
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: we talk a lot of PGA golf, we talk a

805
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: lot of gambling, and uh, you know, I have some

806
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: some ideas. I've been brewing ideas now for a couple

807
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: of years about golf content. Now that I live in Arizona,

808
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: one of the meccas of the game. I think, uh,

809
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: I got a lot of curveballs in my back pocket,

810
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: I said my piece earlier. I I just I don't

811
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: have the energy anymore now. I I don't think the

812
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: Bengals won that game or lost that game strictly because

813
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: the referees. Every everyone gets screwed on bad coals. I also,

814
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: like I said earlier in the pot, I think the

815
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: right call was made when he was shoved out of bounce.

816
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: But I do not want to hear some inept former

817
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: ref talking to me. I'm I'm with you, but I just,

818
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: I just I've been that guy, and I don't even

819
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: disagree with you. I just don't have the energy of

820
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: constantly bitching about the reps. It never changes. It never changes,

821
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: you know why, because the NFL doesn't care. It doesn't

822
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: matter because they're printing money. No matter what, whether the

823
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: referees are the best in the business or whether they're

824
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: what we see now, which are bad. They haven't cared

825
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: for a long long time. They're not gonna start now.

826
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: What I don't understand either, is with all this technology

827
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: that play in the Niner game where Davante Smith caught it,

828
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: and Kyle didn't challenge it and it clearly wasn't a catch.

829
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: There are subjective calls, right, like the late hit on Burrow,

830
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: which I understand people saying that's the late hit on

831
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Burrow and Burrow should get the protection just like Mahomes

832
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: or Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers, Hi, I'm in agreement there,

833
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: but there are some calls. We're big on expediting the process. Now,

834
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, when a lot of these things get reviewed,

835
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: but they don't even get reviewed and we come back

836
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: from break, it's like they've been overturned or whatever. Why

837
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: can't the league on things that are just a catcher

838
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: and no catch, a challengeable play when it's clear, like

839
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: they know in the league office, just say that's not

840
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: a catch and just move on, right, instead of having

841
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: to do the challenge process. Couldn't they expedite that? Isn't

842
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: it on the league? Is that what Belichick said? Why

843
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: is it always my job to fix your funk up

844
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: with a challenge? I think there's some merit to that.

845
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Big fan of your work for the past half decade

846
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: or so, it made me feel old. I have a

847
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: question for the mailback diehard Raider fan from New York

848
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: if you were in Ziegler shoes, can you give me

849
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: a detailed plan and how you would turn around the Raiders.

850
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't help that we have the worst owner in

851
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: sports by far, and it's also looking like my Homes

852
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: is gonna do go on a Brady like run kick

853
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: in the A f C s Ass a f C

854
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: West ass every year, every year. Appreciate your great work.

855
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Mahomes has never lost in his

856
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: five year starting a divisional road game. Your defense is atrocious,

857
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: like really really bad. Max Crosby good player. The rest

858
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: of the guys suck. You need to find a way.

859
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: And I've been around the Raiders now pretty closely for

860
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: over a decade. I was around him really closely for

861
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: like six seven years, and I still watch all their games.

862
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: Your defense stinks. It is never any good. I'm not

863
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: saying you need to get a top five defense, but

864
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: you just need to find a way to get like

865
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: a top half defense, just somewhere in the middle. Teams

866
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, and you gotta be better on defense. And

867
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: both these guys come from the Patriots, who are always

868
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: good on defense. Your quarterback situation is a problem, right

869
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna let Derek go. Got no issue with that.

870
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: If I was Mark Davis and I watched that game

871
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: last night, We've had nine years a day, Eric, He's

872
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: never gonna be that. Okay, let's start. But like it's

873
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: easy to say that, what are you gonna do? Are

874
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: you gonna draft a guy really high? Are you gonna

875
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: trade up in the draft and try to get like

876
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: a C. J. Stroud, Bryce Young, Will Levis? Are you

877
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna sign Tom Brady? Even if you signed Tom Brady,

878
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: he's forty six years old, it's one and done. You

879
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: gotta figure out the quarterback position. And you've got to

880
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: improve on defense. You got Davanta, you got renfro, you

881
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: got Waller. You know, whatever you do with Jacobs, I'd

882
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: probably resign them. Your lines needs a little improvement, but

883
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: you can keep drafting and developing there. You gotta get

884
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: better players on defense, impact guys. They missed so many

885
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: guys on defense over the years. Man Cleveland Farrell instead

886
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: of um, what's his name? I almost said Davante White. Uh,

887
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: they can't even My head is not working right now.

888
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: The linebacker from l s U who's on Tampa Bay.

889
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: You know they take a couple of years later they

890
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: take the corner from Ohio State who's in jail because

891
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: of guns. I mean, they just they do things on

892
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: defense over and over and over again. Jonathan Abram, who

893
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: is a true box safety, can't do anything else in

894
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: the second round, like the Niners took who Funga in

895
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: like the sixth. You know you don't need to take

896
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: these guys they're drafting historically on defense is just so bad.

897
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Devin White, Devon White, is that the right guy, good player?

898
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: They should have taken him over Cleveland Ferrell. Okay from

899
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Daniel just finished watching the game with the Chiefs and

900
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals on the season ticket holder for the Bills,

901
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: lifelong fan. I hope we get Sean Payton because, my god,

902
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: the Bills have taken a step back. I think one

903
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: thing was really really clear that night with the Bengals

904
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs game. The Bills got a ways to go, man,

905
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: that they are not as tough, they're not as physical,

906
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: They're just not as good as those two teams, period,

907
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. They gave the Chiefs all

908
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: they could handle two years ago in the playoffs, but

909
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: Brian Abeles gone now and their offense with Ken Dorsey

910
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: was not as good and Josh Allen was not as good,

911
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: and they just do not have a physical element to

912
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: them that the Bengals in Chiefs. That there was a

913
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: grittiness and a toughness to those two teams, which was

914
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: just awesome to watch in person. I have a quick question.

915
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm in a dynasty fantasy football league and have to

916
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: option to trade for Tray Lance for cheap. Do you

917
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: think he has the starter next season or the starter

918
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: somewhere else? Uh? You know, I'm not selling all my

919
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: tray Land stock, but I've given up on thinking that

920
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be some transcendent player. And transcendent I just

921
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: mean like a top twelve starter. Uh, pretty had the

922
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, Tommy john or elbow surgery will be out

923
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: until training camp. If Purtty is healthy and training camp,

924
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the starter. Now. On the bright spot

925
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: for Trey Lance, with Purty's injury, they probably keep them.

926
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: They don't trade him this offseason, and he gets all

927
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: the off season reps, So coming off the injury, he

928
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: gets all the reps and O t s, which is

929
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: definitely not a bad thing. Him and Brock seemed to

930
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: have a good relationship, so if he ever could figure

931
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: it out, they are equipped right Kittle, deebo A, Christian McCaffrey,

932
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, like all those guys are under contract. Both

933
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: guards under contract. They're gonna need a do right tackle.

934
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell gets injured a lot, but he's also under contract.

935
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Jawn Jennings under contract. They got a lot of weapons, man,

936
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: they really do. But I would think about trading him

937
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: for sure. Good day, John Big fan of the Pot.

938
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I heard an interesting take on Lamar Jackson scenario. If

939
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: he were to be traded, he would see a straight

940
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: up swap for Justin Fields. I can see the fit

941
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields in Baltimore, but not so much with

942
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: Lamar in Chicago. What are your thoughts on the trade

943
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: fit and could Chicago look to involve a third team?

944
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: Three team trades don't happen in football. To me, the

945
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: trade would be Justin Fields to the Ravens, and then

946
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens would trade Lamar to like Miami or New York.

947
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Chicago would start from scratch. They have a ton of money,

948
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: they get a ton of picks. They would not take

949
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: Lamar to me, you just ride it out with Fields

950
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: before you pay Lamar all this money. You're not close

951
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: to being a player away. So to me, Lamar would

952
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: not go to the Bears. I'm with you, it does

953
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: not fit. If you're the Bears, you just draft one

954
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks and you use all these picks to

955
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: kind of restock the cupboard. But the Ravens would obviously

956
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: Fields does make some sense there, and then they would

957
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: get rid of Lamar so they don't have to pay them.

958
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Never forget and Bears fans like, you have to admit

959
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: your general manager said, what what does Justin Fields need

960
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: to improve on? This offseason? He said, throwing? What if

961
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: you saw Colin Cararty're like, what do you think? Uh?

962
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: If Colin looked at you and it it was like or

963
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: You're like, what does metal COFFI need to improve on?

964
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: He's like talking, I'd be like, uh, we got I

965
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: probably don't have the long future here podcasting, he said,

966
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: throwing like you know, he needs to work on this

967
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: one concept, he said, throwing the football. I got that

968
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: situation red flag from mile away. I really do I

969
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. I'm not and I'm not

970
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: a Justin Fields hater. I like Justin Fields, I'm wondering

971
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on Frank Reich. Colin thinks he's

972
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: a great head coach, but with no evidence. Frank had

973
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: many awful play calls and often seemed confused. I do

974
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: not like Frank as much as Colin. I think Frank

975
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: is a little too pro player for me, and I'm

976
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: not against being pro player. Pete Carroll, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan,

977
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: Shaw McVey are pro their players, but they also are

978
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: very they there's a high level of accountability. From what

979
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: I've heard about, Frank is kind of a woos when

980
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: it comes to that type stuff. It's never the player's fault,

981
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: it's always I don't know if he's a tough minded guy,

982
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: but I do think he's a solid coach. When he

983
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: had Andrew Luck, when he had Philip Rivers, like they

984
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: did have success, they went to the playoffs or statistics

985
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: were fantastic. So I heard Colin go on the ran

986
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: about you know, Rivers had to bounce back year. Luck

987
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: had his best year of his career. Frank, the Panthers

988
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: don't have a coach though, I mean a quarterback, so

989
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: like he doesn't have a quarterback he's in the same situation.

990
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: He just wasn't Indie. I just don't know if Frank

991
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of wired to be the tough guy, and

992
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you kind of need a tough guy.

993
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: I need a guy that can relate to players. I

994
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: need a guy that can obviously scheme offense. I need

995
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: a guy that obviously can interact with their human beings.

996
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: And he's really good at that. But sometimes like you

997
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of gotta be an asshole, like Sean Payton, Kyle Shanahan,

998
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: but like they got there there in their back pocket.

999
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: I don't know Frank's got it, But like I said,

1000
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: I understood why the Panthers hired him, even over Wilkes,

1001
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: Like I would never hire a defensive guy, especially an old,

1002
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: retread defensive guy. At least Amiko is like a young, innovative,

1003
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: potentially a transcending coach. Like sorry, sorry, Steve, I'm leading

1004
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: an offense and if I'm gonna go offense, and I

1005
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: just had this one and done not I guess he

1006
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: wasn't one, and he was there two and a half years.

1007
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: But this college coach, I'm going with an NFL guy,

1008
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: and that's what Frank is. But I think frank ceiling

1009
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: is kind of high, or excuse me, his floors high.

1010
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: His ceiling is kind of low. Could make the playoffs

1011
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: maybe if they somehow figure out the quarterback, but I

1012
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: don't see them being some like Powerhouse coming up. Okay,

1013
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: last question, big fan of your show, listen all the

1014
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: way from South Island on New Zealand. I went to

1015
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: New Zealand when I was thirteen with my dad. Very

1016
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: cool place. I'm a massive Bengals fan, ben a fan

1017
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: since Carson Palmer red shirt year behind John Kittna. My

1018
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: question to you is why is Joe Burrow not being

1019
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: have not been the m v P when he was

1020
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: out injured his rookie year, we look like the good

1021
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: old Bengals again. But when healthy duty covers flaws in

1022
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: the team like no one else name another quarterback with

1023
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: a revolving door o line and gets close to being

1024
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs, you could make the argument that Joe

1025
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: Burrow should be the m v P. And you could

1026
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: make the argument that going into next year he has

1027
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: a ton of m v P. Bus I think he

1028
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: is now Josh Allen. People are gonna root for him

1029
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: and want to vote for him, so I'm with you.

1030
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: I would vote Patrick Mahomes the m v P this year,

1031
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: and I think he validated that you know, last night.

1032
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: But if you told me you voted for Joe Burrow

1033
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: as the m v P, I'd have no qualms. I'd

1034
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: have no arguments with you. I think he's the second

1035
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: best player in the league. So yeah, I would do

1036
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: this instead of being bitter. And I'm not saying you're

1037
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: being bitter, but I would be so fired up that

1038
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: in your lifetime you got the best player of the

1039
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: franchise is ever gonna have? Is that guy? Like? It

1040
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that same thing with the Chiefs.

1041
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: This is as good as it gets, and they're both

1042
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: how olds Joe Burrow Like? You got a guy who's

1043
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: twenty six years old, who was the best player in

1044
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: the history of your franchise, who is a certified badass

1045
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: the way the football is at minimum. If he just

1046
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: stays healthy, you got ten more years of this sweetness.

1047
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: So just enjoy being a football. It doesn't get any better.

1048
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna win an MVP, and more than likely you're

1049
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: gonna win Super Bowl. As good as it gets, man,

1050
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: appreciate what you do well. Okay, this is truly last question.

1051
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: I know football is still going on, but we are

1052
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: basically back into golf season, So how long until we

1053
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: get Go Low back. I think I'm gonna throw something

1054
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: up on my YouTube channel, just my YouTube channel, John

1055
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: Middlecoff for for Go Low Uh this week and next week,

1056
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: and then I think we will started officially on the

1057
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: podcast feed after the Super Bowl. And yeah, I'm playing.

1058
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: I just watched every minute of Tory Pines, won a

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Speaker 1: couple of grand and then I gave it all back

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Speaker 1: when Brock Party's Arm Tour. So it's the gambling's fun

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Speaker 1: until it's not. So yeah, I've been watching a ton

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Speaker 1: of golf, so there is no hesitation in me. It's

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Speaker 1: just hard. You know, we got multiple It's not just

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Speaker 1: me on this podcast, We've got other people working. It's

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Speaker 1: just easier till after football season. I know everyone else

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Speaker 1: tries to get you out golfing, but we've seemed similar

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Speaker 1: in skill and I'd love to get you out for

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Speaker 1: a round. Scott's Dale is great, but how about a

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Speaker 1: private track up in Pasting check out Rim Club and

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Speaker 1: or Chaparral Pines and let's get it on the books

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Speaker 1: chairs Luke and a Zy. Never heard of those two places.

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Speaker 1: Sounds sweet. I'll hit you up man. I appreciate the invite. Okay,

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Speaker 1: have a good week. We will be back on Friday. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We'll just there'll be more football stuff going on, and

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Speaker 1: then super Bowl Week next week and we'll keep rocking

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Speaker 1: and rolling audios. May the peace be with you, see

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Speaker 1: people later. The volume