1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: As well as we have been reporting, Amazon has confirmed 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: plans to eliminate just a eighteen thousand jobs. Joining us 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: now to discuss some more. Spencer Soaper Bloomberg Tech Reporter 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: spends eighteen thousands more than what we heard about just 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: a few months ago. But put us in put it 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: in perspective for us. Amazon is a huge company, which 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: divisions are going to be affected here. Yes, so they've 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: got as of September thirty, they have more than one 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: point five million globally. So this is like, you know, 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: like a little more than of their overall workforce. Granted, 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: most of that workforce are you know, warehouse workers who 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: move inventory around. Uh, their their corporate ranks are more 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: about three and this eighteen thousand is going to come 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: out of the corporate workers. UM, it's largely going to 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: be it's most the most mature part of its business. 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's online UM store as well as 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: some of the brick and mortar initiatives that they've launched recently. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: And then also it's going to be like human resources 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: function like recruiting and onboarding people because they're not gonna 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: be doing that much because they're not hiring as many people. 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: That's that's sort of think it's interesting that they acknowledge 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: that they hired too many people during the pandemic. So 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: when we see these cuts now, is it because of 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: falling demand or that they just think they hired too 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: many managers and they don't need them. Yeah, it's part 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: of laying you know, leveling off. And it's also the 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: fact that because things leveled off, Amazon has always hired 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: like crazy, and generally when they decide that they don't 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: need a team, they've always been able to kind of 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: absorb people within some other new division that's doing well 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: or growing, and so that's not the case now. So 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: the rare thing here is that they had to resort 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: to a to a layoff, whereas whereas usually Amazon can 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: just kind of, um, you know, reassign people that that 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: are on something that's shutting down or that it's pruning 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: to some other function and they just don't have enough 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: enough spaces for all of these extra people. Right now, 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: we did see Amazon shares rise and after hours trade. 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: What does this mean for the company in terms of 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: costs and for its longer term future? Well, in terms 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: of cost definitely on the on the hiring and onboarding side, right, 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: it just means okay, they definitely expect to plateau for 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: a while in terms of the manpower because they're they're 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: letting go this whole basically teen that was this set 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: up to keep up with this rapid rapid demand expansion 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: that they had in terms where they just constantly needed 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: to constantly hiring and recruiting more and more people. So 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: it does look like it's gonna gonna uh, you know, 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: their their employment needs. They're expecting to plateau for a 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: bit and level off. We're probably just gonna see more 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: targeted and focused uh uh, you know investment and expansion 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: from Amazon going forward as opposed to really you know, 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: historically it's just been this this race to uh to 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: meet meet capacity spencer in thirty sentence or so, is 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: this the main way to cut costs with people or 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: are there other ways that Amazon is doing so as well. 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: They've had a couple of other things that they're doing. 58 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: You know, they've backed off some warehouse expansions. UM. We 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: had a scoop a couple of weeks ago about they 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: were looking to sell um excess space on their cargo planes. 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: So there's some other ways to try to, you know, 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: either either get some revenue from the extra space they have, 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: or cut or cut costs. Besides just besides this cutting job, Spencer, 64 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining US. Spencer Soaper, Bloomberg 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Tech reporter,