WEBVTT - Maxx Crosby 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.120 Carl would fucking lose his mind and fucking yell at Marcus. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:06.000 Fucking slowed down. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:26.480 We're not fucking running fifty leave. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.720 Down, Hey, get the mic clothes bro. Welcome to Busting 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.640 with the Boys. We have an awesome guest on today, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:39.199 Max Crosby. Everybody, we finally got the boy to Nashville. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.839 We finally got the boy in Nashville after after how 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:44.000 many letdowns are two? 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.160 Three? I think two? Possibly? It was disappointing. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:48.879 I'll say I was hurt because I felt like we 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.400 had a nice little friendship going on. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.840 Yeah, it was, uh, you know, a rough time. Yeah, 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.760 you know I had to get right. You know, I'm here. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:00:59.200 I told you I'll be here. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:00:59.440 You know. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.400 Let's h explain your voice because it's obviously. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:09.200 Yeah it's all the time. No, I just had a 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.959 little COVID bit so like a month ago, right, a 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.080 month ago. Yeah, it was, uh, it's not all right. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.520 I was a little congested. I'm still I'm finally getting 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.440 my my voice like back now. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.120 So oh wait, I haven't done this last couple of times. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.880 This podcast is presented by Barstool Sports. Shout out the 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.280 boys of Barstool Sports. I always got to say that. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.920 If not, like, it's just it's a bit of a deal. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.680 I gotta make them clip in this thing. Oh this 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.520 episode B with the Boys, the voice is brought presented 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.759 by Barstool Sports. If I don't do that, we gotta 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.240 say it. If we don't say it within the first 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.160 couple of minutes, you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.720 more of a bit of a deal for bloss back there. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.040 He gets a little angry with me, which is fair. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.360 It's meridian, but uh. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.680 He so COVID you had it last year though in 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:52.600 training camp, didn't you? 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.800 Technically I had it, but it was kind of my fault. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.600 So I went, how what do you that first two 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.000 days of camp, feeling good, I'm back in football, finally 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:05.960 back in the facility. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.360 Get a call at five point thirty in the morning 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.320 and he's like, you tested positive. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.160 Blah blah blah. It's like, how are you feeling? Yeah, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.760 you have symptoms whatever. He's asked me a bunch of questions. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.600 I'm like, listen, bro, I don't have it. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.600 I feel good. I was like, I'm a little bit 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:19.120 stuffed up. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.519 I have allergies around this time, but like I'm fine, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.880 He's like he's talking to me whatever. And then he's like, yeah, 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.920 you know, technically, since you know you have allergies and 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.880 you're stuffed up, that that's considered a symptoms, so you 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.120 have to sit at home for ten days. This was 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.120 greatest training camp started. So I'm like, I shouldn't even 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.079 have said anything. I was just being honest. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.000 So yeah, oh so wait, did you test positive for 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:41.400 it or not? 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.320 I tested positive, but they never retested me and I 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.760 never got sick because this was kind of the first 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:48.919 wave when all the that was, when it was thing 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.480 was kind of happenings like that. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:55.480 Yeah, and it was wrong. I got you, yeah, I had. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.680 Yeah. Yeah, I'm got to get naughty with that thing. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.200 Yeah I know you get it. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.880 Yeah, yeah you got a treat. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.040 Yeah, true to right. You know what I'm saying, like, 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.320 don't feel weird, there's nothing. Yeah, just grab that thing, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:19.720 get a little close to your mouth. But when, uh, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.720 what game was it? I want to say it was 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.520 it was Green Bay. I Charro was feeling a little 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.680 under the weather, but it was kind of like a 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.800 mild headache and a very low fever. Like I'm talking 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.720 like ninety nine and a half like, nothing serious. And 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.800 I leave the house and she's like, you know, babe, 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.560 I don't want to I don't want to worry you, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:42.960 but you know, I feeling like this, I would hate 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.960 for blah blah blah blah blah. So I basically take 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.440 a screenshot and send it to our head guy Todd, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.280 and he's like, we got to do the whole close 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.280 contact thing with you. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.040 And so I just just sit there and isolated. I 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.720 had to leave the facility. I had to go home. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.880 I felt nothing, and I knew in my mind, I'm like, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.000 there's nothing going on with her, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.840 Like it wasn't like she had the symptoms of COVID. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.440 But you have to play. You got to play. You 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:06.920 had to play it so safe. This year, it was 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:07.560 like I. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:08.680 Had to write a separate plane. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.440 Even on the way back, I was like, I was like, uh, boys, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.640 we win this game, Like oh wait, no, it's Texans. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.760 It was a Texas because we did win. That's when 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.400 we won the clinch the division. Because I was pissed. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.039 I had to isolate in the hotel room. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.640 I remember that that was when we all were kind 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.440 of under a lot of ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:28.480 and I was. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.880 Like, boys, we clinched the division, like I'm riding back 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.360 with the fellas, Like I'm not riding by myself home. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.360 But uh, because that you sit there and do retest, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.440 which it seems like you didn't get the retest in 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:39.159 training camp. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.120 No, I literally that was helpless. So you just chilled 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.160 at home for ten days? Yeah, middle of the training camp. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.720 I came. I came back and it was halfway through 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:52.200 training camp. Wasn't nice though? Wasn't mad? Was he mad? 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.440 Like after the first couple of days, did you really 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:56.200 lose there? Yeah? 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.880 I didn't really lose like it would have been if 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.640 you had COVID for real. But since you didn't you 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.240 get out of training camp middle of training camp, we 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:05.799 already had a shortened training camp. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.320 Yeah, it was. I mean I wasn't mad necessarily. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.760 It was just the fact I knew Rod Marinelli was 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.279 gonna kill me when I came back, So that was 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:16.360 what was lingering. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:16.440 In my head. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.280 I'm like, I just city for ten days. I was like, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.719 I really can't do that much at home. So I'm 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.120 like when I go back, I'm screwed. I'm gonna be dying, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.880 Like because the first two days, Marionelli was literally trying 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:26.360 to kill us. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.440 But you talk about the legend of Marinelli, bro I've heard, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:30.360 I've heard stories. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.400 I love that man. I love him. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:34.960 I heard the old school. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:40.080 Oh my god, he's a Vietnam veteran. He's straight from 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.320 the book. Like this dude, he walks up no matter 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.240 where you're at in the building, he just stirs the 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:46.479 pot at all times. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:47.360 He'll come up. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.040 He just tries to motivate you in so many odd ways. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.039 But like it helps a ton because he just he 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.960 loves the shit so much and he's been in it 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.560 for so long. It's like you have to respect what 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.560 he says. So like, yeah, matter how off the wall 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.840 some ship, he's just like, I fuck it, Like I'll 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:03.280 just do it. 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.680 What's the most off the wall ship? You heard that's appropriate. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.039 He's like, I don't know if there's anything a lot, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:17.120 but this is back to the COVID things, back to COVID. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.240 So I'm he calls me and he's like, you're fucking 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:23.479 you need some of my blood. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:24.680 My bloods fuckings up with. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.200 All this ship. I'm like, you're probably not wrong. I 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.400 fucking I would destroy that virus. That's fucking nothing. And 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.680 I'm just like, I don't even know what the fuck 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.400 to say. So he's just going on. I'm dying laughing, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.479 and he's like, he goes, that's what you need to do. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:42.600 He goes, go in your backyard. I know you got 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.880 palm trees, you got all that. He does need to 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.120 go in the fucking backyard, doesn't need to work our 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:47.760 hand drills. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.280 And he's sending me all this ship. He was dead 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.159 ass serious. He's sending you videos. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.359 He's sending me the drills, the name of the drills 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.680 that I need to do on a fucking stiff palm tree. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.800 And I'm like, he's fucking men. And he calls me 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.720 day in the middle meetings in front of Everybody's like Max, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.400 blah blah blah, this is what's on the palm trees. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.000 This is what I need to do today. This is 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.440 what we went over, blah blah blah. And he's like, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.520 I need you to send me videos. I'm in a 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.000 fucking I'm in my backyard, no no fucking shirt on, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.360 smacking doing handrels on a palm tree. And my hands 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.120 were fucking literally had splinters in my hands. And I'm 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.480 sending in the video and he's dead ass series. I 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.800 did it the whole quarantine in my backyard. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.400 Now was he coaching you through these videos that you 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.720 were sending him, He just like, you know, you gotta 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:29.600 fucking strike here. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.040 Knowing him, he probably just fucking dying laughing because he 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:34.920 just I would just send the videos. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.480 You go, great, way, that's it. He wouldn't even tell. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.560 He wasn't even too you know what a legend. 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.520 He's a legend, bro, He's I've never been around someone 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:42.920 like him. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.440 I heard heard. I heard he's tough on the on 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:51.200 the field. Oh yeah, I'm talking like running ship conditioned. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.960 It's called edds Our everyday drills. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.400 We do him every single day and started training camp 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.400 to the end of the season week seventeen, we're fucking 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.080 first ten minutes, we're going like, yeah, flying through bags, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.120 get off, different from last year, change direction. Yeah, in 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.280 a way, like Coach Buck was pretty tough on us too. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.680 But I feel like as the season went on, like 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.920 you know, we kind of took the foot off the 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.480 gas er and practice a little bit. But man Nell, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:16.880 he was just like he took care of us, so 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.080 he didn't try to right necessarily kill us. But like 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.680 that first ten minutes, we're fucking, we're getting you're working, Yeah, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.400 you're you're ready to go. Yeah, right off the bath. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:29.160 So that's that's hilarious. Yeah, he's the next level. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.480 How Uh, let's talk about the season. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.040 Yeah, let's talk about it. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.880 Because the boys had it up and down year again. Yeah, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.800 you guys started off solid, similar to the year before. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.560 Yeah it was. It was six and three. Huge, Yeah, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.240 huge win over the Chiefs too. And then it's like 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.439 it's like the back half. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:51.280 Every time. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:56.600 Here, Hang on a second, my age is calling me, Neil, what's. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:02.560 Up, little content superstar? What's up? Boss? Just wanted to see. 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:03.400 What you thought of TJ. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.000 Hockinson and how that Boston radio interview went. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:13.600 Well, I'm actually uh about to interview Max Crosby, but TJ. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.560 Hockinson was phenomenal. I didn't ask the question. I didn't 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.000 ask the would you cat your dig off for a 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:19.480 Super Bowl? 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.040 I'm glad, thank god. I know I told people you're coachable. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:25.760 Uill beus Hall of Famer. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.160 Yeah, but he he was awesome. Were we're gonna have 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:29.760 him on again? 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.000 Good? So you're glad. I can't up on that. Oh absolutely, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.680 And Max Crosby is the kicker. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.720 No, no, he's a d N for the Raiders. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:46.040 Mason. You're thinking a Mason h okay, yeah yeah. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.120 But yeah, I'm about to interview him, so I gotta 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.520 get off, all right, I'll see you. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.800 So I're like, oh, yeah, fuck that kid, all about 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.520 that guy? Fucking ale Hey. 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.640 When he goes Max Crossby, I was like, oh, man, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:04.640 I hope you don't say. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.680 Some shit about what I'm saying. I was just ready. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.559 I'm like, oh, were what is he about to say? 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.439 You know, I talked to Rob Marinelli and he told 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:17.360 me that Meg is a fucking cow. Yeah yeah, Palm 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.839 Tree game is weak, but talk about the ebbs and 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:21.680 blows of the season. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:23.360 It was. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.719 It reminded me a lot of our time when we 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.840 when you were there my rookie year, it was more promising, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.360 even you know, that was the fucking the hardest part 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:34.959 about it was worth. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:35.440 Six and three. 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.160 We've beaten the Chiefs, we've beaten the Saints, we beat 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:44.720 the fucking Browns. We're beaten all top tier teams. So 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.400 just our confidence level was like we couldn't do anything wrong, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.640 like we just fell in, practiced our confidence. It almost 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.880 got to a point where like we were too fucking 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.120 like we're like, oh, we got this ship. So it 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.200 almost felt like and you could see it, like people started, 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.880 you know, workouts, people are doing the same, you know, 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.000 doing the same. Do you feel like guy's got more 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.880 loose about it? Yeah, I feel I feel like so 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.360 in in a way. And that's something we talked about, 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.240 you know, after the season. It is like staying locked 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.680 in from second you get in the training camp to 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.520 the week seventeen, we're fucking dialed. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.160 And that's something that bothered me. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.520 And that's you know, it's it's tough, but yeah, you 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.080 know it's tough, but you know, we have a ton 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.600 of potential and if we're playing as a team and 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.600 at our best, can beat anyone. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.520 Oh absolutely, I think it. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:33.160 I mean every team who's like playing well, they do 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.400 feel theirself a little bit like I mean, everybody kind 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.720 of goes through it a little bit. Yeah, because like rape, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.719 he always does such a good job, like when we win, 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.400 Like when we're winning, you almost sit there and you're like, yo, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.360 do you even feel like we won? Because he's so 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.360 like wants to humble you, wants to humble you about it, 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.640 like stay the course, like stay, keep your blinders and 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.439 blah blah blah, and you'll leave a meeting like does 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.840 he know, Like we're like we're winning. But that's like 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.120 that's the athlete in us, Like that's like you know, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.960 as the coaching in them to where they're trying to 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.360 keep you levelheaded about it. But you know, messing with 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:08.040 all every different type of person in the locker room. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.719 It's always it's always a little different, it is. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.320 And that's like I can see both sides, like and 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.839 I get it. Being a coach, you're like, Okay, I 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.120 don't want these fucking guys think they're you know, they've 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.719 they've made it now, right because they whatever had a 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:21.400 couple of good games. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.080 You won a couple of games, Like I get it. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:24.480 But as a. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.600 Player you're like, okay, like you feel good and like 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.480 me personally, like I really care about every single game, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.880 like my individual performance. I know if I'm at my best, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.040 I'm gonna help my team win, Like I'm gonna give 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.959 my team a better chance to win. So like I 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.720 try to be as diued as I possibly can. And 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.880 you can fall into that. The media, there's so much 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.280 different shit going on. It's like you can fall into 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.440 that trap. But you know that's why I feel like, 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.520 you know, just as a team, we got to be 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.920 locked in and like I feel like Gruden does a 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:52.480 great job. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.400 Like he you know how Gruden is. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.760 Oh, he's just stuck on at twenty four to seven 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.640 in the offseason, Like I'm there rehabbing every day. Now 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.720 he's fucking he pulls me in. I'll be in the 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.240 in the training room yesterday. It's like, Manx, come up here. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.520 I want you to fucking watch a little bit of 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:06.800 film and they I got, I got some guys I 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.720 want you to see, like little ship like that. Like 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.600 he's locked in fucking all year round. So as a team, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.000 it's tough. There's so many personalities and there's so much 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.240 shit going on that Like it's a tough job to 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.000 really win at and fucking win a super Bowl. Bro, 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.600 everyone's got to be fucking on the same page. Oh yeah, everyone, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:25.560 It's it's different. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:25.720 Bro. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.600 Like Tampa Bay won and they weren't even the best 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.839 in their division coming going into the playoffs, you know 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:30.600 what I mean, they were zero. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:31.440 And to against the Saints. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.640 Yeah, they got blown out, like they got blown out 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.640 by the Chiefs. Tyreek Hill had like two fifty against him. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.720 He come, he goes in the Super Bowl, he didn't 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.520 have he had like seventy yards. But it was like 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:41.520 towards the right game. 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.720 But r Bro, they I don't know what they do 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.800 or what they did. But like, isn't. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.200 Dialed in at Isn't it insane? Like just Tom Brady 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.840 just still doing it? And he just signed, like he 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.480 just signed again. He just signed the day. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:03.280 God, it's unreal, bro, it really is unreal. This Yeah, yeah, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.120 my bad, Yeah I got you. Yeah, as we get 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.760 to edit, so no, you're good. But yeah, no, it's uh, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.080 it's unbelievable tom Brady, Like this is ship he's done 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.600 is It's unbelievable. And I just get to play against him. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.640 He's the only guy I've been like like, that's fucking 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.760 Tom Brady. Yeah, like bro Field, Like before the game, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.640 I'm usually I try to get out there before everyone 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.040 kind of just do my little stroll and my you know, 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.320 my pregame little outfit. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:30.960 I fucking walk out. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.000 I'm in the opposite end zone in Vegas, in Vegas, 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.160 and I fucking I see Brady walk out of the 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.680 tunnel by himself. He's like around the fifty yard line. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.120 I'm like, it's fucking wild, Like I kind of look 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:46.000 you want to say, like some top what up? But yeah, 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.040 like after the game, like they fucking they smacked us, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.920 and it was it was a tough game. But like 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.080 getting to talk to him after the game, I like 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.760 I looked at him. I looked like I was looking 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.160 at a guy. Yeah it's different, bro, Like I see 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.480 my homes and I Drew Breeze and those guys like 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.560 no disrespect to him, the fucking great players like something. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.160 It was just different, bro, it was like not a human. Yeah, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:06.360 it was different. I don't know what to do. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.440 We played against the Patriots. When I was watching and 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.120 he pointed, He's like Jack's fifty one. I'm thinking, oh shit, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.600 that's me. Yeah, you know, like yeah, like I get 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.560 you get mics like every game. You know what I'm saying, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.480 but like what's coming out is not oh shit, that's 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.880 Tom Brady. He's fucking yeah, he's talking about me. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.520 Like it's it's different, bro. I don't know what it 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.080 is with him, but he's just he's on disputed go. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.920 It's like being a basketball player. And you're going against Jordan, 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.200 they're getting to meet him. It's like yeah, like that's 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.480 the few to go play the game. It's a football 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.880 for sure. Yeah, there's like all arguments. What do you 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.480 think about the arguments when people are making he the greatest? 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.320 Is he have the greatest resume of all time. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.720 As far as like like if you're. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.120 If you're measuring him up to like the goats of 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:48.480 the other sports, like Jordans. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.240 Yeah, well you look at it. The first thing everyone 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.480 says is your rings? How many rings you have? Yeah, 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.440 he just passed Jordan's, so he's got seven. But the 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.640 only thing with Brady that just makes it weird. It's 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.440 like he's he's the greatest athlete of all time. That's 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.480 what people say. He's an athletics that white dude. Yeah, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.120 so just like fuck. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.000 Like he's it's hard to say, Yeah, he's the greatest 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:12.560 athlete of all time and he. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.640 Couldn't outrun my dog. Yeah right, he's a meeta. Yeah, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.440 Like that's why it's just weird. Like that's why I 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.920 think I guess a little tricky, Like you can't really 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:21.680 cross sports. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:22.600 It's hard, it's too hard. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.440 He's like he gets real tricky, But what's impressive about 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.440 it is he's won more championship Jordan in this in 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.840 the team game that is football. Yeah, because football is 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.520 like the most like you were saying it earlier, like 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:34.720 you need everybody. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.320 It doesn't matter how well you start. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.240 It's like you got to hit the stride going into 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.360 playoffs and you have to be on your ship because 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:42.280 there's only one game. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:43.400 There's no best of seven. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.880 You get one weekend between every game, like you're prepping 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:47.880 for that one game. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:49.480 And it's just different, Like. 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.680 You have fifty three guys on a roster and you're 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.240 trying to get everybody drinking the same kool aid to 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.040 go after and win a Super Bowl when anything can 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.800 happen too. It's not like somebody can just take over. Yeah, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.280 I mean Tom can, but you know you need everybody. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.359 Yeah, you need a receiver to run the right route 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.080 and needs to catch it. He's got it. There's so 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.080 much to it. But when you look at him, you 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:09.639 don't win. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.040 Fucking seven super Bowls by coincidence. Yeah, that just doesn't 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.040 happen by accident. Like he's it's his aura. I just 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.119 feel like that's what it is about him. Like the team, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.159 Like when he came to the Buccaneers, they basically have 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.920 the same roster, Like why is he at the Buccaneers 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.600 there's seven to nine and like they're like, shit, Jamie 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.760 super five thousand yards. Like, Bro, Brady came in and 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.040 changed everything. They all bought in on Brady basically, right, 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.600 you come in you have a guy that's that highly respected. 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.560 It's that's it makes a difference. Bro, He's just yeah, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.560 especially when he's your quarterback running the show. It's like 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.399 you don't want to disappoint him almost, That's what I 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.720 feel like, Like, yeah, four Nette was on his shit 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.600 like everybody was just clicking. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:52.960 It's got to be different too, Like when you're one 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.320 of the players, Yeah and Tom's on your team. Yeah, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.520 and he you speaks on basically anything, You're just like, oh, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.399 that is that is fact. Whatever he's saying, you know 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.720 what I mean, Like, how do you how do you 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:05.640 think any differently? 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.240 You know what I'm saying, and debate him about like 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.400 argue like you're just like it's time like you yeah, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.800 like we got to pick our shit up. Yeah, we 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:14.679 got to pick our up. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.959 He knows how it looks, he knows how it's supposed 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.639 to look in practice. He's yeah, it's just powerful, It 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.040 really is, especially in football, there's too many moving pieces. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.240 Like you have a guy like that, It's makes it easier, 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:27.800 no doubt. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.120 Year one to year two, What are some of your 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.679 biggest what are the biggest differences going from year one 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.159 to year two? What you learn because you were you're 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.320 not a rookie anymore. Yeah, yeah, it was especially coming 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.439 off the rookie year you had. You had what ten sacks? 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.480 Yeah, ten sacks? I mean you were the big dog 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.480 on campus. Yeah, a little bit, but it was. It 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.520 was awesome. Like my whole experience from year one to 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.000 year two are completely different. And like for me, I 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.520 knew coming in, I'm a fourth round pick. I went 0:18:55.560 --> 0:19:00.720 to Eastern Michigan trash cool. Yeah, okay, relax, well you 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:01.720 do beat Nebraska. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.359 Okay, let's take it easy. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:09.240 I'm serious. But anyway, we just going into that year. 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.280 Okay, I'm coming from Eastern. I have a fourth round guy, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.280 I have no expectations. Like just for me, I'm like, okay, 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:15.760 I'm gonna just come in. I got to just prove 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.600 every single day that I've deserve to be on the team. 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.960 Like I wasn't even guaranteed the spot, like that was 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.200 a third string DM slotted in going into camp. 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:29.440 And y'all, y'all drafted, y'all drafted top five, same spot exactly. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.240 So it was like, okay, Like I knew you would 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.080 have a lot more pressure than me. And for me, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.440 it's like if I just come in, do my thing 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.040 every day, do what I've done all the college, come in, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.479 I'll work people and just make plays. 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:42.399 That's all I gotta do. 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.800 And for me, my mindset never changed and it was 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.679 the same thing. You know, I just had an opportunity. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.679 That's what it basically came down to. And you know, 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.040 I got my opportunity and everything, you know, panned out well. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.359 But going into my second year, it was like, okay, 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.840 now it's flipped like now, okay, boom, you had ten 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.680 sacks of a rookie. Now everyone knows who you are. 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.040 You're getting expectation, more expectations. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.280 You know. It's just a lot that goes with it. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.240 And for me, like I didn't go to a big school, 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.920 so there's no social media outlet, it's like talking. 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.040 About you all the time. It was just a little 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:14.600 bit different. So like Eastern Michigan. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.600 Yeah, it's Eastern Michigan where yeah, in the middle of Ipsila. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.040 No one goes there for vacation, but that's trash. 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So yeah, for just mentally was the 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:33.800 hardest thing for me. 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.760 But what was the hardest part mentally? Shit? Well, like 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:37.720 when you're sitting here. 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.840 Talking about like what's what's flashing in your head, like 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.640 what are the things that were the hardest mentally? 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:46.119 Yeah, Well, for me, coming off my rookie year, I'm 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.520 fucking it felt like nothing could go wrong for me, 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.600 and just like I got lost in the sauce a 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.840 little bit. And for me, I've always you know, been 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:56.840 a person who loves the fucking party and I like 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.600 to I was that kind. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:21:59.879 Of guy in college and growing up. 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.600 So for me, shit, I always kind of it was 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.439 kind of an issue for me, but I just was 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.040 able to get through and shit like that. But once 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.560 you know, you have your first NFL off season, you 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.600 have four months off completely yeah, no rules, you know, 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.000 no class you gotta be at. For me, I just 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.560 you know, I was lost in a way. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.440 Oh so you're you're saying like you started to get 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.199 after it and get in the deep end with when 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:26.080 it comes to getting lost in the sauce parties. 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.919 I was just partying, and you know, I just I 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.200 was drinking way too much and got to a point 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.640 where I was like, Okay, what the fuck am I doing? 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.360 I woke up one morning, I'm like, I need help, 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:38.680 Like I can't even. I was at a point where 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.760 it was just it was I didn't I had no 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.119 management in my life. I was fucking all over the place. 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.840 So yeah, I went and got out. What happened that 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.439 made you realize, like, oh, this is fucking bro. I 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.960 was just I was lost. I was lost just mentally. 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:55.119 I couldn't. 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.000 I was so just my decision making and my fucking 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.560 my priorities were so backwards that it was just like, okay, 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.080 what am I doing? Like I just had a great 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.479 rookie year. I fucking I have money to take care 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.840 of myself. I have a beautiful house now in Vegas. 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.520 Like from the outside, everything looked. 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.040 Like you got it together, like figured. 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.560 It out, if it's got life under control. But incidebro, 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:21.600 I was fucking I was dying. Bro. 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:22.280 I was lost. 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.240 I was going through so much ship just dealing with 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.439 you know, different just distractions and shit going on, and 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.520 I was fucking just lost. So for me, I was like, 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.639 I need help. I call my agent. I fucking like, 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:36.560 what month? 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.640 Year? This is a day? Ago is a year. 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:44.080 I'm a year sober, So yeah, yesterday, Hey, let's fucking 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:48.200 go man. Yeah. So uh yeah it was. It was 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.560 big time. So for me, I'm I'm doing great. I'm 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.120 fucking in the building every day, training my ass off, 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.800 you know, I'm working the program. 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:58.200 Doing everything I need to do. 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.240 So like, just for me, I need I needed to 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.320 get everything reeled in, and I knew I needed help. 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:04.720 I wasn't at first. 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:06.960 It's the hardest thing is just walking in the door 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.680 accepting that you got a problem. 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:10.640 And for me, that's the hardest thing. And you see 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:11.480 people struggle with it. 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.879 They go to fucking rehab eight times and they still 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.280 can't you know, they can't deal with it. 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:17.199 There's so much going on. 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.159 So for me, it was just like, literally, this is 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.760 what I need to do. I got sold, everything is 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.360 going this way, but this is off the field. I'm 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:30.040 fucking just diving off a cliff. So I just yeah, 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:31.879 I fucking I talked to my team, I talked to 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.480 my family, my friends, my girl. Fucking it was the 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.040 hardest thing I ever had. 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:40.080 To do every day and go to go to La 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.280 get all my I just I had to go get right. 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.400 So you went to rehab in March. 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.040 Fuck yeah, bro, I was out there till yeah, March. 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:51.200 I left April eleventh. I was there for thirty days, 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:56.040 fucking in Hollywood and it was crazy, Bro. They fucking yeah. 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:57.399 I had to I had to get my shit together. 0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.040 But it was the best thing that ever happened to me. 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.240 I knew life now a year later, I can't even 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.720 tell you. Just like for me, it's like I never 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.199 was grew up religious and shit like that. So for me, 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.600 it was I didn't know what it was, just like 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.280 me figuring it out. And my family were all we're 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.120 all in sports, and we just kind of figured out 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:18.879 what we did and found our way. And for me, 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.520 I was just lost, bro, and I needed to get 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.800 back on track. And for me, I knew this is 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.520 the one thing that's always been a crutch, like even 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.080 in college, like I gotta I got a duy in college, 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.320 I got in trouble. I tried to get sober, but 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.399 I wasn't working any program. I was just fucking my coach. 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.520 You know, he's more so just liear. 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.680 Like yeah, I'm gonna switch it up, and yeah, well. 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:37.280 It wasn't even that. 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.560 It was like boom, I got in trouble and I 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.760 got a duy. I'm like this, I'm going into my 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.600 last year. I'm like, listen, coach, I can't be out 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.360 two games. Like my second game, we're playing Purdue. It's 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.560 a big ten game for Eastern. Like that's huge. 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.040 I know it all out. I need to be on 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.160 the field. This is like huge. 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.440 I knew I was going to the going to the 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.600 league that year, So I was like, coach, I'll fucking 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.560 do anything, like you got to get me. I'll fucking 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:03.359 I'll do community service, do whatever you need to do. 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.359 So he's like, give me a couple of weeks. He 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:07.800 had a plan for me and whatever. But I wasn't 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.880 in AA, I wasn't working, you weren't actually fixing, white 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.240 knuckling and road trying to just I was just staying sober. 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.399 I will still go to parties and be in that 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:19.800 environment sobers the motherfucker miserable And now like I can 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.080 my girl can have wine and do her thing whatever. 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:26.359 But like it's completely different. I'm working a program I 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:30.480 have built in you know, fucking it's just a whole 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.160 program that I really you gotta unfold everything that you've 0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:34.680 been through and going through it. 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.439 And I know you have Waller on here and Bro. 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.560 I don't know if you listened to that of course, 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:39.600 of course. 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.919 And Waller's me and Waller where we work with the 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.159 same people and we're fucking this my guy, like Bro, 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.360 that's awesome a ton. So it's it's awesome and it's 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.520 literally a day by day thing. But it's like my 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.000 life now off the field is going that way now 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:59.200 instead of fucking that way. So football is football. I 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.520 love football everything. I put everything into it. But if 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.679 I don't have the off the field shit right and 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.160 do that, I'm not gonna be to where I want 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:06.320 to be. 0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:06.840 Yeah. 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.800 For me, like I fucking I want to be a 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.640 Hall of Famer. And people think probably right now, they're 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.080 probably like, damn, he's fucking arrogant. 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:14.760 Whatever, that's how I think. 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:16.760 Yeah, And nobody thought I would fucking go and have 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:17.680 ten sacks of rookie. 0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:18.879 No one thought I'd get drafted. 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.600 I left school a year early at Eastern and everybody 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.920 told me, I'm fucking nuts, don't leave, You're gonna fucking 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.840 go undrafted. But I said, no, I'm ready, and I 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.840 fucking just better myself, went to the combine, did my thing. 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.560 I've always better on myself. That's how I do things. 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.480 So yeah, for me, this is another thing. It's like, Okay, 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.639 this is another path. I had, something I had to 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.560 figure out, and I've been fucking doing everything I can 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.080 to to do it. 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:44.119 And I'm a year sober. 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:45.960 I can't like at the time last year, if you 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.320 told me I'll be year sober today, fucking on the 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.280 bus with you, I'll be like, it's fucking. 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.119 Well, yeah, I mean, well it makes sense why like 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.520 not that you're flaking And now I feel bad that 0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.359 I'm giving you shit for flaking because you know what 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.360 I'm saying, and you're like, you never use you never 0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:01.440 know what people are going through. 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.560 Yeah, like you never know, you really know, no idea. Yeah, 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:05.880 not a lot of people knew. 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.920 Because we're trying to navigate through the super Bowl. 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:09.879 We can't remember, like we're trying to oh you know, 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.560 I got deals, Like, yeah, I was I was doing 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.320 that feeling man like feeling yourself finding like the funnest opportunity. 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.280 Yeah, just trying to have as much fun as I could. 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.720 But I was just lost, Like I was not happy 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.000 deep down. It was fun in the moment, but I 0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:25.920 was just it got worse and worse, and I was like, Okay, 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.480 if I could fucking do everything I've accomplished so far 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.119 in my life, I can this. I'm a fucking attack 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:33.919 this shit just the same way as I do everything. 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.399 And that's what I've done. And it's been awesome, bro, 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.320 Like I've fucking I've met so many, so many people. 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.600 I've been in rooms I never thought I would be in, 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.760 just like it's unbelievable. 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.560 But is this stuff you were dealing with in the season? 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.560 Oh fuck yeah, Bro, I was. I was doing doing 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.120 the whole deal. But I like, Bro, I was there 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:53.520 was a couple of times that showed up, you know 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:54.080 what I mean. 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.880 Like I'm asking because you're like, you went thirty years 0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.720 into the rehab and then like, what's thirty days? 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:02.920 Not thirty years, not thirty days. 0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.479 But like but say yeah, and then you're talking, You're 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.280 talking about you know, you were you were still in 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.240 it in the season, Like what's the process that goes 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.520 on after the thirty day thing. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.240 I'm sure you're a d wall and you said you 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.240 meet people and talk about like what's the process that 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.360 you're continuing to work as you're going into the season 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:21.440 and also in season. 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.040 Yeah, So, like I said, I got out April eleventh. 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.440 Then after that, I was like, okay, like Mai rehab, 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.280 Like this is like crazy to me. I'm like, we're 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.360 you nervous? Yeah, fuck yeah a little bit because I 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.960 just I didn't know it, like the thirty days I 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.520 had that. It's not like you just think you hear 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.720 the word rehab and ityone's like oh fuck, like what 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:43.520 like you're crazy? 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:44.800 Like people look at you like you're crazy. 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.320 Before me, it's like I'm comfortable with my skin, so 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.360 I don't give a fuck, Like I'm doing what I 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:50.760 need to do. 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.720 Yeah, so absolutely whatever. 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.720 At first, I was a little freaked out, and once 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.000 I got out, I was like, Okay, I did my 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.640 re I did my thirty days. Like I'm trying to 0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.680 just go home and build my girl and the dogs 0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.160 and do thing I mean in Vegas. 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.080 Yeah, like I but it was in Vegas. You know 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:05.560 what I'm saying, like you're going to Vegas. 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.120 Yeah, but like our you know, our front office people, 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.920 and like all the people I was working with, like 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.360 they're like, okay, next now you're gonna go to sober living. 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.400 So it's basically like in a way, it's. 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.120 Like getting out of jail and going to a halfway 0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.920 house like so as I was like I got out 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.640 and I'm like, damn, I had to go fucking to 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.479 another place and do this. And I was like whatever, 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.560 I called my agent the first time, I'm like, fuck this, Yeah, yeah, 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.440 for sure home Like fuck that, like the first like 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:32.920 I did it, Man, I did it. 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.720 I fucking did it. I need to go home. 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:36.760 But I was at the end of the day I 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.200 made it was the best decision I ever made, was 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:38.640 staying there. 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:38.800 Bro. 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.880 I was in La all the way up into the 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.880 training camp. Week before training camp. I ended up staying 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.960 all the way April all the way to August, and 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:47.560 it was amazing. 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:47.720 Bro. 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.600 I found a trainer out there, and I was it's 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.960 basically sober living here in a house like eight guys 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.760 and everybody it's the same shit. You reab whatever. Then 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.440 you go to sober living and everybody they got. You 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.720 go like a weight room outside and everyone like they're lifting, 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.080 people are lifting and shit, and and you just chill, 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.400 like you do your meetings and shit like once a 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:09.760 couple times a week, and you. 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.360 Do like your stuff that you're supposed to do. But 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:12.880 it's basically just chilling. 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.920 Like it was a nice house and in California, and 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.160 like we just all hung out, like we became boys. 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.239 And at first I was so against it. I'm like, 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.360 fuck this bro, Like get me out of here. Like 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.200 I'm trying to be with them. I'm trying to go home. 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.800 And you know, it took a while. I was kind 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.840 of just like in my own little for a minute. Yeah, 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.760 but then like I you know, I started meeting, you know, 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:33.920 talking a couple of the guys, and like everybody was 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.160 super cool, and like I still talk to them, you know, 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.840 to this day. It was a few guys, and like 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.200 I got people that I was in rehab with that. 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:41.840 I fucking still talk to right now. 0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:45.880 Like the relationships I made and like it's like fucking 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.720 the biggest blessing I've ever had my life. And it's 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.160 like the hardest thing I've ever had to overcome. And 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.520 then that's why I like, I carry that shit on 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.440 my sleeve. I talk about it because it's like somebody 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.440 else is gonna need it, because like right now someone's 0:31:58.440 --> 0:31:59.800 going through the same shit I went through. 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:00.760 And Waller. 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:04.080 Having Waller in that locker room, he saw, he knew 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.560 what was going on with me being sober, Like during 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.960 the season, you probably didn't know, but like people knew 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.280 I was partying fucking hard like during the season, but 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.200 I was. You know, we're in the building six seven 0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.840 days a week, so like you can't really do it now. 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:17.240 I do it, like you know what I mean. 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:19.600 Yeah, yeah, So like I was able to keep my 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.000 shit together, and but you hit that off season, you 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:23.200 got all the time on your hands. 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.040 It's just like yeah, because. 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.480 There's no structure, like you said, there's no collar I need. 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.440 I love structure, and I need structure. Like I love 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.920 having a schedule. I fucking like right now, I'm five 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.960 days a week, I'm at the facility, I'm lifting eight 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.440 thirty in the morning, doing all my rehab. I literally 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.520 go up and meet with our coaches all the time 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.640 like during the week. Like I like having that because 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.480 I don't need to just be sitting at home fucking 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.440 ten hours a day playing video games. Like I come 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.240 home around two o'clock, my girl's there, the dogs, We 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.760 do our thing and like I got my meal prep 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.040 on point. Like I'm just like that's how my brain 0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.480 needs to for me. It's like I need that schedule. 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.600 I need that playing Okay, boom, I'm eating this time 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.640 of the day. I'm I like having my ship planned 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.320 out because for me, just our minds being a having 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:08.520 that addictive personality. 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.800 Oh, you need structure, bro, That's that's what I need. 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.320 And it's life is a lot more fucking easy now 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.360 and simple and I'm not looking over my shoulder worried 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.520 about fuck what do I do to this person? What? 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.720 Like now it's like, Okay, I get everything out. I 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.240 fucking I've been talking to people that I've wronged, people 0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:28.080 that I've you know, had fucked up situations while I was, 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.000 you know, going through what I was going through, and 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.760 like just getting that shit out instead of holding it in. Like, bro, 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.040 it's the best feeling in the world. And like people 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.880 see that, they see what I'm doing for people. I'm 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:42.640 fucking helping multiple people and reaching out and doing things 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.520 like everything I can do because it's just it's that's 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.320 what like drives me now. It's like not the fame 0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.000 and all that shit, Like it's cool. Everyone likes that, 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.640 like everyone loves for sure, everyone does. And for me, 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:56.360 I love football. I want to be the best, so 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.440 I want to know that people know, you know what 0:33:58.480 --> 0:33:58.880 I'm doing. 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.560 That's how it is. But for me, like having all 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.640 that shit off the field and doing the right things 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.000 in life, that shit makes me makes me so much 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.959 more comfortable in my skin. It's fucking it's crazy, dude. 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.319 Good for you, man, Yeah, that's mean. I appreciate you 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:13.799 sharing that. 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:18.359 Oh yeah, I mean I had no clue obviously, But 0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.040 and you never know who's watching either or listening right now, 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.080 you know what I'm saying, Like somebody could be going 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:27.040 through something thinking because everyone thinks everybody perception of like 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.880 an NFL player or a professional athlete, like they have 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:30.720 everything together. 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.279 Oh you know, people don't get that everyone is a 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.839 human being and they all have their own shit. Absolutely, bro. 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.560 I I was in college, I thought people were going 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.239 through issues and shit. When I came to the league, 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.920 I'm like, damn right, there's some wild shit going on 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:43.920 and people really don't. 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.400 Know and we're all so masculine in alpha and we 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.719 have a hard exterior, and you always want to seem 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.120 like you have the right shit going. 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.440 On exactly, no matter what's going on, you always got to. 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.120 Put on that like I'm good, like I could fucking 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.000 you know, I can handle anything, right. That's what a 0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.800 lot of people are scared of doing, is like fucking 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.839 something that you know, people got issues going through shit 0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.919 and just like facing that ship out on and so. 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:06.000 I don't know if I was. 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.360 I don't know if it was like Gary Vee or 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.120 Rogan recently, but one of them made like the comment 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:14.000 I was listening to some like YouTube inspirational thing and 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.080 it was like, our insecurities are ours to own if 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.480 we just own them, like if we just if we're 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.640 vulnerable enough to just talk about them and own them 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.440 and admit that, like we have these issues going on, 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.640 then it just kind of liberates who you are because 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.200 you're able to talk about it and just be like, 0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:30.759 you know, I mean, I'm a human. 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:32.840 Everybody has their own shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.759 Literally, Like my favorite quote of all time is like 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.120 I heard a few here in a million times being 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.080 in the program and shit. But it's like if you don't, 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.279 if you've done nothing wrong in your life, then don't 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.040 judge me. Like if you're perfect, then you can judge me. 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.600 But at the end of the day, bro, every every 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.600 fucking person in this room hast ship. You're just like fuss, 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:56.360 I'll never tell any Yeah, bus my bad. Like everybody 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.520 has that thing. He's like fuck oh no, I won't say, like. 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.560 Oh absolutely, like college, I did some fucking crazy shit, 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.400 like some ship you try to like you know what 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.880 I mean, everybody has that. So like for anybody to 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.560 judge me because I've done what I've done, fuck that, 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.480 Like that's cool. Like if you want to hate out 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.520 of me and do that, I'm fine. I'm happy with myself. 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.600 I know what I'm doing, and I know I'm doing 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:18.560 the right shit right. 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.360 Right right right, you can say, and you're you're in 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:21.920 your own like awareness about it too. 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.719 Yeah, I see everything so much more clear, and it's 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.319 just like it's the best feeling, bro, And it's it took. 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.160 It took a lot because I was the same person 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.640 I was so like I really cared about my image 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.000 and I was like I need to be known as 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.520 like you know, hard ass like football player, blah blah blah. 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.719 Like that's just how we are. Like, that's how are bro, 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:40.720 it's our natural nature. 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.120 But our insecurities only grow because you have to be 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.560 a macho athlete all the time. 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.040 All the time in public with your family, everyone looks 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:50.800 at you like, oh shit, he's an NFL player, So 0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.320 you got everything. You got to act like everything's fucking together. 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.200 But like, at the end of the day, bro, if 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.359 you admit the ship, that's what's being a man. Bro. 0:36:58.480 --> 0:36:59.319 I don't care. I don't. 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.399 I don't people that try to put on a front 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.240 and do all that shit, that ship unravels eventually. 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.040 Yeah, at the end of the day. And shit, if 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.880 I I have none to hide. 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.960 It's just like for me, that feels good, like just 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.480 absolutely able to talk to people and let people know 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:13.839 what I went through because. 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.440 It's gonna help me. Yeah, it's gonna help them who 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.120 you don't know is paying attention. And it also like 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.440 you put your own accountability in there too, because you're 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.239 kind of, you know, saying it over and over and 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.719 you're putting it out there and you're kind of giving 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.520 yourself an accountability that you have to you know, continue 0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:31.120 to kind of stay on the path. 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.200 One when did you and Waller first have a conversation 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:35.640 about it? 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.480 That's what I'm curious about, Like was there something you 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.239 sat back and looked at with Waller and You're like, 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.719 you know what I need to I need to fucking 0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:44.600 admit that I have something going on here and he's 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.240 able to do it, and it kind of gives me, uh, 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.200 I guess, courage to fucking you know, feel better. But 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.120 I'm not saying it's him, but I'm saying no, it 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.600 had to have felt good knowing that somebody like Waller's out. 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:56.279 There talking about it. 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.160 Yeah, And you see, like so for me, like it 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.880 wasn't me going like talking to Waller one on one. 0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.960 That's not how it necessarily happened. 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.799 But I had, you know, our same people work with 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:10.319 each other, so like we have you know, mentor sponsors, 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.600 people were dialed in with all the time. So his people, 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.239 like I, they worked with Waller. So then his guy 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.880 kind of got what I was going through. And then 0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:21.800 Waller found out. So it was like, yeah, They're like 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.640 just come to a meeting one night. And at first 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.920 I'm like, fuck that shit. I'm not like I'm so 0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.560 nervous and like at first you're terrified. Like now like shit, 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.200 we have we have our meetings every week and like 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.160 it's the best fucking time. All the guys, all you 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.799 know former you know, guys that have gone through the 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.200 same shit, you know from different backgrounds and stuff. We 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.920 just as me Waller and good group of guys. Bro 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.480 Like we literally just it's an hour and we just 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:50.000 talked and just talk about what you're going through and 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.280 it's your story. Like the biggest thing is your story 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.160 is gonna help. Like we just talked about that, but 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.520 like just hearing like what Waller's going through, Like shit, 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.239 he's sober, he used to over three years sober, but 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.759 he's still a fucking human. He's gonna have problems and 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.640 you're gonna have issues and shit come up. 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:07.400 And that's what helps me. 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.359 It's like, Okay, boom, he's been sober for three years, 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.359 but shit he doesn't have everything together, right. 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:12.400 I don't have everything together. 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.400 I've been sober for a year, but I'm still learning 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:18.040 and growing so much. So for like me, it's like 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.319 there's fucking you see you hear from guys who are 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.880 forty five years sober and they're still dealing with, you 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.400 know this, fucking the littlest shit. 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.600 That would bother that they know they are, Like what triggers, Yeah, 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:29.800 like a triggered. 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:33.479 Any little thing, like just family, wife, kids, Fucking there's 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.160 so much shit too it to life in general. So like, 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.719 dealing with all that sober is not easy, especially for 0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.239 someone who's an addict. Like that shit makes it even harder. Bro, Like, 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.120 you got to think about it. Normal people they like, oh, 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.920 I need to go go get a drink, like it 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:49.319 was a long day, but they could just have their 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:52.040 wine and go to bed. Like for us, it's different, bro, Like, 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:53.959 I can't just have you know, just have a beer. 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:55.279 You gotta get up. 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.800 Oh what the first drink is the bro, first drink 0:39:59.000 --> 0:39:59.479 is the problem. 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.799 It's not the same the team once that have the 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.480 first beers open and I shild it's it's on, like. 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.480 Frank to take once just touches your lift and. 0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.160 You never know where the fuck's gonna happen. Like that's 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.719 just the reality of how it is. So I'm not 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:14.560 afraid to say that, bro, Like, I've been through a 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.400 lot of ship in my life, and this has definitely 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.360 been the hardest one. That I've gone through, like just 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.799 fucking going through it, bro, Like the first few months 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.080 I was struggling hard. Oh yeah, I can only imagine. 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:27.920 Like the first week you're like if it's like the 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.239 biggest relief. It's like you're getaway, like okay, I'm out 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.200 of this ship like my fresh star. 0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:35.480 Then like okay, a couple of weeks go by, like okay, 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:36.560 now what the fuck do I do? 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:38.840 In a month? A couple of months ago, I'm like 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.080 this fucking sucks. And now but in the again, you're 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:45.279 in Vegas. Yeah, that's the crazy part Vegas. Yeah, but 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.239 like I'm in Henderson, fucking quiet neighborhood. So it's like 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.319 it's it's cool, but it's like my point is like 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.320 you're you just got to stay the course. 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.719 It's one day at a time. You're never at the end. 0:40:57.800 --> 0:40:59.440 You're never at the end, bro. It doesn't matter if 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:01.839 you're fifty five years in, if you fucking like both, 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.160 if you started letting the hand off the wheel, kind 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.680 of sitting back, doing kind of jumping over a little 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.719 fucking you know, little obstacles and shit you're usually doing that, 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:12.839 shit adds up and that could fucking that can lead 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:13.480 to that drink. 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.719 That's what it is for me. Bro, you gotta be 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.480 fucking two hands on the wheel. I'm dialed in. 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:18.680 Bro. 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.080 I wake up every morning, every night, I do the 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.280 same thing, do my little you know, say my little prayer. 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.000 I fucking have my meetings. I'm doing everything I need 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:28.960 to do because that's what I need. And like I 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.759 love it because it's a part of that structure. I 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.640 love that structure. Like that's what makes me, you know, 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.080 be successful. Right, So it helps a ton. It's just 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.280 like it's life in general. It's not even just alcohol. 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.160 It's like this, oh absolutely life, bro. Like a normal 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.760 person who's going through it, they deals with depression. 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.880 If you just sit in a room and talk. 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.360 To people and have that conversation and open up about 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.560 certain shit, it helps. It helps so much, Bro. It 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.560 doesn't matter what's going on with you, so and talk 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.040 about those insecurities. Oh fuck yeah, because that's all that 0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.680 shit buried up. That that shit builds up, and it's 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.800 like that's where you just explode eventually. 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.279 So yeah, I mean that it is too. Like that's 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:07.000 like with life. 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.120 Like if you like you're using an analogy, sitting back 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:11.799 and get a little loose with the wheel because you 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.400 you know, you have two hands on the wheel right now. 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.800 And with anything like you start to get comfortable or 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.719 feel yourself or think like you've made it, or you're 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.879 at the end of something like literally it never ends, 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:21.360 all right. 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.440 Callan said it on the on the pod, like, be 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:24.400 careful what you practice. 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.279 You might get really good at it, or you might 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.080 get really good at the wrong thing. Yeah, you start 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.880 to let loose, You're starting to practice being lazy or 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.239 doing this, or letting yourself, you know, get off track 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.000 a little bit, and then all of a sudden you're 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:37.239 in it. 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:38.479 You're in that lane. Yeah. 0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.640 You it's literally all it takes a Habit isn't hard 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.440 to you know, hard to grow. Oh yeah, you do 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:46.200 it one time like, oh shit, and then I can 0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.560 I I could, you know, sleep in a little bit more. 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:48.959 I can. 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.080 I don't really need to hit all eight reps on 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.279 a fucking reverse hyper, like I don't need to do 0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:54.040 you know what I mean? 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.680 Ready, terminology, you lose it, he said, eight reps of 0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.880 the reverse hypers, getting them hamstrings. 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:02.680 Yeah, but. 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.320 That's just how it is, bro. It's like life in general. 0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.520 And that's what I'm that's the main thing for me. 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:12.680 It's like football. It's the same ship. Every little detail 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.960 in life, bro. If you're doesn't matter what it is, 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.719 your family, taking care of your kids, every little thing. Yeah, 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.120 all of all that, ship, Bro, you get to relaxed 0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.840 and comfortable. Ship's not gonna go well, it's. 0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.920 Just yeah, well good for you, man, Like, that's an 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:27.960 awesome fucking story. 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.279 I am. I did not know we were gonna go 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:35.279 down that kind of you started going. I was like, oh, ship, Like, no, 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:36.920 that's just I mean, but I do. 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.440 I think it's a It says a lot about you 0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.560 growing in it because you're able to talk so openly 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.799 about it. Like similar you know, we keep talking about 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.040 d Wall but similar with him, he's just able to 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.200 talk so freely about it. And like I, I haven't 0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:52.680 had to go through something like that, but just something 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.920 as small as I've been doing premarial counseling with my 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.000 fiance and even that stuff, it's like you start learning 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.240 about what therapy is really like talking to a therapist 0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:03.839 or somebody that can help you get this emotions out 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:05.719 of your basement that you didn't even know you had. 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.160 You know what I'm saying, Like you're sitting there talking. 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:09.919 I'm talking one time because we were talking about living 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.160 in different places, and I'm talking about how I like 0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.920 living in Nashville, and she wants to live around like, 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.279 you know, the beach or nature or something like that, 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.200 somewhere that's not around people that I already know. And 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.600 you're sitting there talking about it, and you start to realize, like, oh, 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.520 I've just been comfortable moving around because I'm always going 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.160 to my next city, to a next football team. Because 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.279 she's like, well, when you moved to Nashville, you didn't 0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.400 nobody in Nashville. But in my head, I'm like, but 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.360 I knew I was going to a locker room, like 0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.400 I knew I was going around people that I knew. 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.320 So anytime I've had to move from Nebraska to DC 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.879 to Oakland and Nashville, like, I always know, I'm going 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.799 in an environment that I recognize. So that fear of 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.000 not wanting to live somewhere where she's talking about living 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.400 because she's not in the bubble that we'rer in my 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.759 whole life Like that's where my fear comes from. And 0:44:57.960 --> 0:44:59.960 you sit there and you talk about your transition with football, 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.840 how do you feel about your train like not playing 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.000 football anymore will And I'm like, you know, I'm not 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.160 like too nervous about her. It's scared about it because 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.359 i feel like I've built I've prepared myself for this 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.960 transition with busting with the boys and being like, you know, 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.319 an advocate for doing things off the field that keeps 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:16.360 my mind where I just. 0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.200 Don't identify as a football player. So I'm like, you know, 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:19.320 I'm not too nervous about it. 0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:21.279 And she's like, you sit there and you talk about 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.880 your life with and she's like, no, like you're scared, 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.759 like you're sad, like you fear it, and I'm like, 0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:29.920 I'm like, I mean, she's like, listen, you don't have 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:31.879 to be macho, like just talk about why you might 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:33.640 fear it. And you're sitting there talking and you're going 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.080 around and you're like as a kid going from little 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.000 league to high school and just the next segment was 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:42.840 paid for you or paved the way, was paved, paved 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:44.799 the way, whatever you want to say, but you just 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.239 go from locker room to the locker room and you're 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.640 just always for thirty one years, it's just been my yeah, 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.719 thirty years, right, it's already installed with the next move 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.680 is going to be for me sort of like there's 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.680 some unknown, but I know I'm playing ball and just 0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:59.839 being on the other side. She's like, no, like that 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.120 is hard, Like that is tough, Like you don't have 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:03.239 to act like it's not tough. 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.200 And you're sitting there. She's like, you know, pick a 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.080 word on the table, you pick a word from that sheet. 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.120 Thing that everybody knows about. You said, you pick a 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.640 word stuff. She's like, talk about it, and you're just 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:13.400 sitting there. You're like, I I've kind of thought I 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.160 already did talk about it. Like they're like, no, like 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.920 you elaborate more, like what do you think it is 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:19.640 that you're fearing? 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:21.359 And you go on and on and the next thing 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.760 you know, you're crying. You got tears coming. 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.640 Out of your eyes and you don't know why. And 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.440 I'm uncomfortable with big emotions. So I'm like, you know, 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.319 I'm sitting there trying to use humor to get out 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.640 of this conversation, you know what I'm saying. And you 0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:36.080 got to sit there and live in this world, in 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.440 this basement of your your vulnerabilities that you didn't even 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.279 know you had or have words to even come up 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:43.800 with it, and like, you know, I've been in tears 0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.279 like five out of the seven appointments and you just 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.160 don't know why. But I know at the end of it, 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.440 I like love it. Feel amazing, dude, I feel amazing. 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:53.279 You sit there, you know, you're like wiping your eyes 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.239 and stuff. You get out with your girl and you're like, 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.840 you know, this is awesome. You just have an awareness 0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.560 about like that you're learning with yourself that you're just 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.680 like now I see, like you see that side of 0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:05.520 it where people talk about therapy, whether it's they're going 0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:09.080 through an addiction or just going to regular therapy or 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.200 just they're battling things where you just go and talk 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.680 with somebody, Like I do think there's there's something to it. 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.040 I love it, Like I just absolutely love it. Shout 0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:19.399 out Sagegi by the way, because they're the ones. They're 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.719 the that's the spot I go to in Nashville. But 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.000 you're talking about all that stuff, and I dig it 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.040 because I'm sitting here and you're saying things that you 0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.799 were once very uncomfortable talking about like you did. Like 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.600 you you've told me, You're like, you know, you didn't 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.000 want people to know, and now you're able to talk 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.759 about it and you just kind of feel liberated about it. 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.160 And it's like you're You're coming up with these things 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.800 in therapy that I've realized that I've had in the basement, 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.960 and you just feel so much better actually talking about 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.319 it and owning these insecurities that you actually have. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:50.960 It's the fear of the unknown, bro. 0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.880 It's like every like you said, everything in life, the 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.799 fear of going in just walking in the door. 0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.200 It's just like me getting sober. 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.480 It's like the fear of the unknowns, Like, Okay, you 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:01.920 have a million things going through your head. How the 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.359 fucking I lives over? How can I not party? How 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:05.880 after a game on a plane, how am I not 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:07.360 gonna want to drink a beer with the guys? 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.479 How? Like a million things you're going through your head. 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.560 But you'll never figure the shit out unless you walk 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.319 through that door and actually like. 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.359 And you're like, do I actually like I know I'm 0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:17.080 going in to gets over, but do I actually want 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:17.600 to get you? 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:18.880 Just all these. 0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.279 Conversations, it's just like you with the wife and all that. Bro, 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.520 I've had to deal with it, my my girl. We 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.120 fucking we've gone through all that. Like I've been with 0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.440 my girl since college, Like we've had our ups and downs. 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.600 You've seen it all, bro, So it's like and. 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:32.320 You got to get some stuff out that you're like 0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.040 nervous to talk about everything. 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:35.760 Bro, we couldn't even have the normal conversation. 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.080 But you have someone that's you know, not that doesn't 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:42.080 have a motive or an objective behind like just narrating 0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.319 basically laying out the floor for you and your girl 0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:45.120 or whoever. 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.120 It is just yourself right, Like it's you. 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:49.640 Just you talk to you and talk to your girl, 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.279 and you'll be like damn, like why the fuck did 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:52.640 we just talk about this before? 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:53.920 Like this is so simple? 0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.319 Yea, this shit like we've been stressing about for a 0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:59.040 fucking year, right, all we had to do is have 0:48:59.080 --> 0:48:59.880 one conversation. 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:01.560 But like that's life, bro. 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:05.319 Everything I feel like that shit always ties to it, 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.080 ties to everything, bro, just being just like the fear 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:09.960 of the unknown like stops a lot of people from 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:11.640 doing what they really want to do with their life. 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.839 Like for me, that's why the sobriety, Like back to it. 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.880 I know I've talking about It's the same thing, bro, 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.880 Like the fear of the unknown. When I was leaving 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:24.319 in college, Bro, my coaches, my decordinating, all them, They're 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.279 blowing my phone up, bro for days and like, and 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.719 I don't blame them, because it was tough. Like they 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.520 didn't really know I was leaving. I told my coach 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.560 right before the bowl game, my head coach. I told them, coach, 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.839 I'm I'm really I think I'm leaving. I think I'm 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.520 gonna declare whatever, go out to the Phoenix. I got 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.640 everything set up. I already knew who I wanted as 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.040 my agent and shit, and you know, we got that 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.840 all dial But it was just like that fear of 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.920 the unknown. It's like you're terrified, like, oh, fuck, Like 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.520 what if I leave school right now and like I 0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.600 go undrafted fucking doesn't go this way, blah blah blah blah. 0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:58.239 And then like I just what if I just went 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.279 back to school and didn't do it, Like I don't 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.200 even know where I'll be right now. Yeah, Like, but 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.279 just fucking getting in that doorbell, taking this leap of 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.160 faith is like that's the number one thing, Bro. 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:09.120 It's the hardest thing. 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.800 That's the hardest thing is just choosing to take action. 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.120 Fuck it, Bro, just saying fuck it. And it's funny. 0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:17.200 You're like you're talking about you and your girl, and 0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.120 it's like you just needed that third party person to 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:20.600 sit there and kind of lay it out. Because the 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.680 way I explained it, like doing the premieritial counseling, is 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.480 like you have all these things that you wish you 0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.280 could kind of have those conversations about. 0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:28.799 Yeah, but anytime it. 0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:32.080 Does so like for instance, say Charles comes home and 0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.799 I haven't cleaned up something, and she's like, I know 0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.720 in her mind she's doing the best way to be Hey, babe, 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.120 you know, do you think you can clean this up? 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:42.840 Or would you like me to clean this up? Or 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:44.080 I know you said you're going to clean up, but 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:45.600 you would you like me to go ahead and do 0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.600 it for you? And in my mind I know she's 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.399 even though she's doing it in a very extremely nice way, 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.880 I know she has in my mind an angle about it. 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.880 Or something usually happens for you to have a conversation, 0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.000 so somebody's guard is usually up going into any convers 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:01.200 you're just gonna. 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:01.719 Sit there and watch TV. 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.680 Hey, let's talk about you know, when you didn't do 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.640 laundry a few weeks ago, you know what I'm saying. 0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.399 You're usually your guard's usually up. 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.680 About something, or something usually happens to make you talk 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.920 about it. We're going to primoral counseling or therapy with somebody. 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.279 You're sitting there taking these personality tests and you're doing 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.600 all these things, and they're bringing up conversations for you, 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:21.239 and you're kind of like, oh, yeah, this is a 0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.080 good thing to talk about, and then you dive in 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:24.960 and you're reaching back and stuff in your childhood, your 0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:26.480 history that you didn't even know. 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:30.360 Yeah, right, but it's awesome. 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.520 Man, A huge advocate, huge advocate for the premoral counseling. 0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:36.200 We're going to continue to do it. But therapy in general, 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:39.120 I mean, and it's cool. 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:42.360 Too because we've had better help as a as a sponsor, 0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:46.759 which has been awesome. 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Yeah, what was it like having having Marcus, 0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:34.320 having a fellow boy from the Titans over. 0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:36.400 Over on the Raiders. I know he's quiet, So you 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.520 might not even have a whole lot, see I do. 0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.560 And this is I'm happy you ask. Like, so when 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.520 I first got you know, we got back in the 0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:46.440 building and went, you're any camp and stuff. One is 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.920 you know, part of my routines and my structures. I 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:51.520 have to go in the hot tub and cold tub 0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:54.120 after every practice no matter what, or I don't, I 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:54.960 can't sleep at night. 0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:59.640 So I literally what a life has full life to live? 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.160 Bro? Like if I'm not if I if I don't 0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.359 get in the colto after practice and like something goes 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.399 wrong the next day, I'm like, I'm like, that's why 0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:08.120 my fucking legs aren't where they need to be. 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:09.600 I'm fucking crazy like that. 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.520 You guys know me now, But that's just how so 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.400 I'm in the hot tub shilling after a day of practice, 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:17.960 and fucking Marcus was always you would always be in 0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:19.520 there with me. It was just me and him, and 0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.440 I got to meet him and got to talk to him, 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:22.839 and he's super cool. 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.680 He's one of the most humble dude. He's so genuine 0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:26.640 good dude. Bro. 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:31.640 I fucking love Marcus and his girl now fiance. I 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:35.040 believe she played soccer at Oregon and my girl played 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.000 at Eastern Michigan with me when we. 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.359 Were at school. She was I see both of you. Yeah, 0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.640 so you know, the genetics are very strong. 0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:45.000 But anyway, so she met, you know, me and Marcus 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:48.680 met each other, and then Rachel and Marcus's fiance they 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:51.279 met each other and they started playing like rec league 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:54.520 basically soccer, just the same guysy and stuff, and they became, 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.080 you know, good friends and everything like that. So me 0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:00.399 and Marcus this offseason, we're gonna sometime soon we're gonna go, yeah, 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:02.879 you know or something and have dinner. And but yeah, 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.360 he's just a he's a really good dude. And I 0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.560 don't like practicing against him at all because he was 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:12.160 playing scout quarterback and he's fucking flying around the field 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.319 and it like it helped a lot, just cardio wise, Like, 0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:17.440 you know, you gotta chase this motherfucker. 0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:19.800 He's running, he's trying to get his in. You know 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:21.919 he's not. He's going all out. 0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:25.000 So I'm like, I respected it, and I'm in practice 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:27.080 we will get irritating a little bit, but I knew 0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:31.160 I had to run. Fucking Carl Nasa big shout out 0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:32.920 to Carl, this is my guy, bro. 0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.920 He would lose his mind in practice. 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.880 It was like week sixteen, like week fifteen, late in 0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:43.600 the year, and Marcus is still scrambling, juking, running fifty 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.200 hours on the field, and Carl he's you know, he's 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.000 a bad He's been to leave us six years now. 0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:52.000 He's other big white defensive end. Carl would fucking lose 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:54.359 his mind and fucking yell at Marcus like. 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:56.040 Fucking slowed down. 0:55:56.239 --> 0:56:00.920 I'm not fucking running fifty I'm like, Carl, it's okay. 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:02.840 Like after it would be over, He's like he's like 0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:11.160 we're playing Drew, but like he would lose a ship. 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.439 I'm like, Carl, just breathe, baby, come on, we're good. 0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:16.560 We gotta get it in and he's like be like nah, 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:18.640 like he would be happy. You know, we had to 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:21.719 go through it, but in the moment, he would absolutely Bro, 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:23.000 he lost. 0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:25.400 His ship, especially legs you're a little heavy. 0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:28.200 Carl is a character, Bro. He would fucking go just 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.640 something the little ship would he would just it would 0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:32.719 just set him off. Bro, we would fucking die. 0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:38.839 Staying on quarterback Derek Carr is everybody. 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:43.200 Aware of all the bullshit he and he endures in 0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:46.239 the media, social and all that. 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:50.760 Ship Dude, Yeah, well it's it would be impossible unless 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:52.400 you literally have no social media. 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.160 Is that not some craziest thing? 0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:57.920 Bro? He trends like every other day. It's unbelievable because 0:56:57.920 --> 0:56:58.840 he's fucking good. 0:56:59.120 --> 0:56:59.279 Bro. 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:03.160 He had his best season, his best season of his career, 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:07.640 and you look at every number, every stat whatever, and 0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:09.840 people still look for a reason to try to shoot 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:11.840 on him. And it, like, for me, it bothered me 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.319 because I know Derek. I me and Derek have an 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:18.680 awesome relationship and he's like the one guy. If everyone 0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:21.000 just knew him and had a conversation with no question, 0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:23.160 you would feel like a piece of garbage trying to 0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.280 downgrade him. So he's some fucking the dude's in the 0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:29.080 building every day. Five o'clock first due in the building. 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.320 He fucking the dude is dialed twenty four to seven 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.000 and he's a quarterback. 0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:36.200 So you know he's busy. But he literally not. 0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:38.480 A time goes by where he doesn't text back. You 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:40.920 know what I'm saying, Like he's the most genuine dude. 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:43.280 Yes, goes out of his way and he just he's 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:46.160 a great dude, and his place speaks for itself. You 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.760 look at our season. We went eight and eight. Our 0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:53.200 defense was not good. It's a fact. It sucks, and 0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:55.800 I was a part of it. I could be better home. 0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.160 You guys shoulder some of that, like the heat he takes. 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:00.080 You're like, man, if we just fucking played better. But 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:02.520 you look at our offense. We're ranked top ten. We 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.680 averaged twenty eight points a game. We should not be 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.840 a name. Yeah, that's not on Derek Carr. Derek Carr 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:08.720 is bawling. 0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:11.880 Fucking hurdling in mid air and trying to get a 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:12.360 first down. 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.400 Like I respect the ship out of that. There's nothing 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:17.840 I can say bad about him. The dude is awesome, 0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:20.920 and it is annoying, Like people love for some reason. 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.880 He's like whatever, guy, I know, they just. 0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:27.360 Go after like there's always trade rumors, there's always like yo, 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.960 were bringing them back? Like it's just I don't know. 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.240 I don't know where it comes from, but it's unbelievable. 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:34.040 I don't either. 0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:34.280 Man. 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:37.880 It might be them eyelashes he's got he's got them eyelashes. 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:40.760 That makes you kind of like, what's this fucking guy about? 0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:48.160 You know what I'm saying. I mean maybe no, yeah, 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:52.040 but what this family played in the NFL, Like yeah, 0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:54.120 like I don't I feel you on that. 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:55.040 That was just kind of before. 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:59.000 Yeah, that is true, that is true. 0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:01.400 But I mean he's he's like, Derek's a baller dude. 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:02.920 He's been to three Pro Bowls. 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.920 Is it's wild to me because you see something probably 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.040 every other day. It's hilarious and I just don't I 0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:14.040 don't know. It's it's fascinating, especially when the d struggled. 0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:19.080 The defense we struggled heavily. We would do coaching changes. 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.080 You did I did a little I did a little 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:22.760 segment on that. 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.320 Yeah, yeah, we had a you know, new coach. 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.720 We had a bunch of new pieces that came in 0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:35.280 no offseason. Every level, we had new guys playing that 0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:38.560 have never played together. Communication, wise was not where it 0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:42.680 needed to be. Leadership wise wasn't where it needed to be. 0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:46.960 And I take responsibility. That's something I definitely am gonna 0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.280 work towards and being a better leader and more vocal. 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.560 But like, yeah, we just weren't on the same page, 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:55.880 Bro at all, and it was tough. I felt it's 0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:58.439 just like this is the worst thing, Like you could 0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.800 lose a game whatever, a tough game. You like you're 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.520 back and forth, but it's like everyone knows this is 1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:05.760 a fucking elephan in the room. Like the defense is 1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:08.640 struggling that ship that bothers the ship out of me, Bro, 1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:11.800 I can't lie, Like, yeah, it was rough, but yeah, 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.320 they try to use DC as like a scapegoad for 1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:16.680 every issue. I'm like, he's the one dude on the 1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:19.600 team that you don't have to worry about like DC, oh, 1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:23.080 no question, Like that's it's it's crazy, Bro. I feel 1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:26.080 like Stafford was similar to Stafford, like in Detroit, he 1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:28.240 had to go through all that ship, but like everyone 1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:31.640 knows Stafford's a baller Broster Like, so. 1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:33.240 Yeah, it's it's interesting. 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:37.560 Yeah I had to I talked about PG on one episode. Yeah, 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:39.400 I know, did you hear it did you listen to 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:46.160 PG called? PG called after that segment, and I was nervous. 1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:48.720 I was definitely nervous about it because I'm like, he called, Yeah, 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:51.240 he called, you know, give me Yeah. 1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:56.040 Yeah, He's like, hey, COM's PG. Give me a call 1:00:56.120 --> 1:00:57.720 back when you get this. I'm like, oh man, he's 1:00:57.720 --> 1:01:02.240 calling about that episode. Yeah, and the the the person 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:04.720 inside me did not want to call him back. But 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:07.440 I'm thinking to myself, like, Okay, if I'm going to talk, 1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:09.280 if I'm going to talk about him and I'm going 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:12.200 to talk about that issue on the pod, then I 1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:13.920 need to be I need to have the stones to 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:17.680 call him back and talk to him. And so you know, 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:22.840 he we had we hit. We had a productive conversation. 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.000 But uh but yeah, he wasn't he wasn't a big 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:28.000 fan and rightfully, so like it's fair and it's not. 1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:30.960 It's never on just one guy at all. It's not 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:31.520 on one. 1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:35.320 Guy that goes into it, bro especially in the NFL, 1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:37.520 Like there's a lot of a lot of things that 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:39.919 go on, and like, yeah, no, I don't I don't 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:42.080 blame him for being mad. I don't blame yeah, yeah, 1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:44.600 for sure, I know you like just it's another thing. 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:46.960 It's like the pride thing is, pride is everything and 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:49.200 at the end of the day, and like I get it, 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:52.800 Like I'm me personally. I have my relationship with him, 1:01:53.280 --> 1:01:55.120 never had a problem with him. Dude is always good 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:57.800 to me. Yeah, so like yeah, like you know, everybody 1:01:57.800 --> 1:02:00.640 has their own opinion, and it's like that's a that's fine. 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.400 Like you don't have to agree with everybody, that's for sure. 1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:05.600 For sure. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, like I get 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:08.480 into everything. It's just this is what it is. But yeah, 1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:09.040 it's funny. 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:12.440 Yeah, it was a conversation. Was it was awkward, it 1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:15.360 was tough, for sure. I'm glad I did it. I'm 1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:20.040 glad I didn't puss out by calling back broad Yeah, 1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:22.320 I'm glad I did it. And you know, it was 1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:24.960 it was fair that he didn't like he didn't like it, 1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:26.760 but again, like you're just talking about your own player 1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:30.360 perspective of everything. He's like, look, I can't help I 1:02:30.360 --> 1:02:32.400 couldn't get you back to Vegas. I'm like, bro, I 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:35.560 promise it had nothing to do with that because I 1:02:36.200 --> 1:02:38.560 was close to coming. I was close to coming that 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:42.080 uh and fortunately the boys, the Titans offer what do 1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:45.360 you say. 1:02:44.240 --> 1:02:45.440 I was close to close. 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:51.640 I was close to climax. But yeah, man, you know 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:53.760 it's it suck because I did want to go. I 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:55.760 did want to go play for the Raiders again, but 1:02:55.840 --> 1:02:58.640 it was like you couldn't not you know, having a 1:02:58.640 --> 1:03:00.760 home here and everything else and playing for the Titans. 1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:05.160 Like I don't blame you. You saw the jersey swap. Yeah, 1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:06.360 when I was on the Raiders. 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:09.600 Not only did you, but it was it was an 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:11.640 awkward room because I was like last coming in the 1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:12.920 locker room, and then it was kind of awkward the 1:03:12.920 --> 1:03:15.960 next day, Like it ain't like it rich. 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:20.560 She's like a motherfucker, dude, I know I taking pictures. 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:22.360 Yeah, I know, dude, I know. 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:26.160 Like I struggled with that, but like also I knew 1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.480 it was just in the moment, Like I knew it 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:30.680 was just anger and emotion. Like in the moment, I 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:33.360 was trying to like be outside of that and like, look, 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:36.720 I know him on the back end. These moments don't 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:38.880 just happen, Like you don't just play in the NFL forever. 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:40.840 Like this is a game that I don't even remember 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:43.200 what the score was now, but like it's gonna be 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:46.960 an afterthought, like this moment, I just did it, but 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:49.840 I knew. I knew I was gonna have some like looks, 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:52.360 some side ice from it, rightfully, so like it was merited. 1:03:52.440 --> 1:03:54.640 No, I'm like I got it. 1:03:54.800 --> 1:03:57.040 Yeah, it's like you're gonna bust my balls. But people 1:03:57.080 --> 1:03:58.120 you like just do it. 1:03:58.120 --> 1:04:02.800 To piss off and just because he was like oh boys, yeah, 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:04.400 I'm like you fake motherfucker. 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:08.720 I knew that would flock to it. Oh I know, yeah, 1:04:08.760 --> 1:04:09.480 but yeah I get it. 1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:11.520 Bro. It's like me, I'm playing what if I played 1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:14.360 ten years of the Raiders or whatever? And then I 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:16.240 go somewhere else and I come back and like, I 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:18.040 know all the coach, I know people on the team, 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:19.280 they probably do the same thing. 1:04:19.440 --> 1:04:22.200 Like, yeah, I don't blame him, Yeah, Rich Cherty, I 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:25.280 love Rich. I respect this ship out of coach Rich. 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:31.400 Fucking guy Masachia. No I I I written cover that. No, no, no, no, 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:33.200 I actually. 1:04:32.880 --> 1:04:34.680 Do though, Like I fuck with Rich Like he's a 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:37.400 he's a. He's a he's a he's a good leader. 1:04:37.680 --> 1:04:40.840 He's a fucking leader amongst men, wrong fucking leader. 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:42.320 Phenomenal speeches too. 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:45.520 He's a realist, bro. He will tell you exactly how 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:48.040 it is. And he's another dude that when I was 1:04:48.040 --> 1:04:49.520 going through what I was going through, that was one 1:04:49.600 --> 1:04:51.720 motherfucker that I would face high me all the time. 1:04:52.040 --> 1:04:53.800 Just see I didn't want to see your face. Man, 1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:56.680 that's fucking awesome. Yeah, he's a fucking real one. 1:04:56.680 --> 1:04:56.840 Bro. 1:04:56.880 --> 1:04:59.240 I go and see him all the time. I just 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:02.560 go in his office and the ship. Yeah, he's a 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:04.560 good fucking dude. No, he's fucking awesome. 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.280 When I wrote that undrafted blog or whatever, he's like, Hey, 1:05:07.320 --> 1:05:09.640 I fucking love this and stuff, and you just he's 1:05:09.680 --> 1:05:11.640 just dope. If you are around him, you know what 1:05:11.680 --> 1:05:13.800 I'm talking about. 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Guys are getting cut, deals are getting restructured. 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:57.880 You're seeing these new deals like Levante he signed my 1:06:57.920 --> 1:07:00.600 boy Levonte David, he just signed a baby two years 1:07:00.640 --> 1:07:03.840 twenty five twenty guaranteed seventeen and a half that signing. 1:07:03.920 --> 1:07:06.440 But so instead of, like I want to say, it's 1:07:06.440 --> 1:07:08.560 like the signing bonus that they might be spreading. Instead 1:07:08.560 --> 1:07:11.200 of spreading it out over two years, he signed for 1:07:11.280 --> 1:07:14.280 like five years, right, three voidable years, So they're able 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:16.480 to spread that signing bonus out for like five years. 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:20.000 Like teams are getting savvy and creative. Yeah, but it's 1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:23.200 been a uh it's been a crazy week. How do 1:07:23.240 --> 1:07:26.800 you feel about, uh, the Chiefs because they're in the 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:32.080 division letting go of both of their both of their tackles. 1:07:32.360 --> 1:07:33.960 What did you think when you saw that come across 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:34.320 the ticker? 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:38.280 Well, it's honestly, it definitely surprised me, like everything. 1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:40.480 It was funny. I woke up, I woke him in 1:07:40.520 --> 1:07:42.720 the morning, and I had so many people fucking doing 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:45.680 like different memes and shit. They're like Max Crosby when 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:47.880 he wakes up this morning, blah blah blah. It's like 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:50.440 these crazy ass memes and I'm like, what the fuck? 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:52.920 But yeah, like I don't know, bro, it's tough. Like 1:07:53.840 --> 1:07:56.720 Eric Fisher tore his achilles, Like that's the fuck. That's tough. 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:58.800 Like oh yeah, So it's like, yeah, like I don't know. 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:00.600 To put the team in a hard spot, it puts 1:08:00.680 --> 1:08:03.480 the player in a hard spot. And like Mitchell Schwartz is, 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:05.640 he's been dealing with a lot of bad like back 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:08.520 problems and he's had issues too, So I don't know 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:10.560 if they're gonna bring the guys back. But like I 1:08:10.600 --> 1:08:13.480 played the Chiefs this year. The first time I played, 1:08:13.600 --> 1:08:16.160 they were both playing, and the second time, I think 1:08:16.200 --> 1:08:20.439 Schwartz was out. Yeah, so Schwartz was out and Fisher 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:22.960 was a little bit banged up, so like, yeah, you 1:08:23.080 --> 1:08:26.120 saw what happened, Like, yeah, was struggling, bro, they and. 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:27.840 Now they just let go both them started out. So 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:30.320 obviously you know they have a plan. They're not domb Yeah, 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.639 they're not gonna not do We're gonna revamp and get 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:34.800 some guys for sure. So I peel. 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:37.320 I saw one funny when it was like mahomes because 1:08:37.400 --> 1:08:38.640 you know, he was trying to put the team on 1:08:38.680 --> 1:08:40.719 his back in the Super Bowl, but he's like throwing 1:08:40.760 --> 1:08:42.880 the ball laterally, and they're like, you know, fuck it, 1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:45.040 Like we'll put it all on Patch Mahomes. Like yeah, 1:08:45.040 --> 1:08:46.920 we saw him, you know, get rid of the whole line, 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:48.760 crypt clear up the cast pace and just let Pat 1:08:48.760 --> 1:08:52.200 Mahomes do his thing. But that stuff's wild. And then 1:08:52.320 --> 1:08:56.160 Dak he signs a huge deal with the Cowboys. Uh, 1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:59.040 Jerry Jones ponies up and pays him, and some people 1:08:59.040 --> 1:09:00.879 were saying that that could be tipping off. 1:09:02.160 --> 1:09:04.080 The TV money. 1:09:04.200 --> 1:09:06.000 Yeah, I saw something where it's like he could be 1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:08.000 tipping off what the TV deals might look. 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:11.360 Like between the NFL. Uh. But I mean it's it's 1:09:11.400 --> 1:09:13.720 been a wild off season already and honestly hasn't even 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:16.240 started because for agency opens up next week. I'm excited. 1:09:16.560 --> 1:09:18.200 I look, you love this time of the year, just 1:09:18.200 --> 1:09:20.360 like seeing all the ship as a kid, and like 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:22.320 in high school and shit, I was so fucking into like, 1:09:22.320 --> 1:09:24.960 all right, who's signing here? But yeah, I grew up 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:28.080 a fucking diehard Lions fan. Ironically, it's kind of funny. 1:09:27.720 --> 1:09:29.960 But you grew up a diehard Lions fan. 1:09:30.080 --> 1:09:32.000 I lived in Michigan all was ten and I moved 1:09:32.040 --> 1:09:33.960 to Texas and went to middle school, high school. 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:34.280 O day. 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:36.680 So I've bro was a big Lions fan. So I 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:39.720 was always locked in on free agency. Like now, like 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:41.320 being in the league is I go ship? Now you 1:09:41.360 --> 1:09:44.559 really know what's going on and like it's interesting. It's scary, 1:09:44.640 --> 1:09:47.360 but yeah, I kind of like it's it's entertaining for sure. 1:09:47.479 --> 1:09:49.519 All Right, Has there anybody that's gotten the acts from 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:50.320 the Raiders? 1:09:50.920 --> 1:09:51.160 Yeah? 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:54.719 We uh oh I saw Trent Brown. You guys dealt Trent. 1:09:54.840 --> 1:09:58.479 Yeah, we we cut three of our starting alignment. Damn 1:09:59.000 --> 1:10:03.840 got Ritchie and we cut Trent no Way? Yeah fuck man. 1:10:03.880 --> 1:10:06.400 Yeah, I don't know if people are coming back like 1:10:06.479 --> 1:10:07.800 some maybe. 1:10:07.760 --> 1:10:09.799 You guys got you guys got some big free agents 1:10:09.880 --> 1:10:10.200 up too. 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:13.120 Yeah, Bro, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. I 1:10:13.120 --> 1:10:14.519 don't know. It's it's crazy. 1:10:14.560 --> 1:10:19.280 Bros do something every day. Yeah, like he's up, Nick 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:25.880 morro elly Yeah, Aglaura had a fucking amazing season. I 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:28.360 don't know what it's gonna have with Jonathan Hankins, my boy, 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:31.040 big Hank. Yeah me, it's a free agent. I don't 1:10:31.080 --> 1:10:33.880 know what they're go You know. Uh, it's interesting. 1:10:33.520 --> 1:10:35.200 Bro Mayak and Grudener in the lab. 1:10:35.280 --> 1:10:38.000 Dude, you know they're in the lab, bro may I 1:10:38.000 --> 1:10:40.439 I know Mayok is in there like he's having like 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:42.720 eighteen hour days or something ridiculous. 1:10:43.080 --> 1:10:44.519 He seems like he just loves the ship. 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:44.840 Dude. 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:47.240 Oh yeah, I've had a conversation with him. He's like, 1:10:47.720 --> 1:10:50.360 it's my dream job. I worked the NFL that way. 1:10:50.400 --> 1:10:50.760 I did that. 1:10:50.960 --> 1:10:53.960 I just studied players twenty four to seven. They they 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:56.120 came with this opportunity, and now I really get to 1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:58.519 do it. Like this is what I've always wanted to be. 1:10:58.720 --> 1:11:01.400 Like Boom, Now he's a fucking real NFL GM and 1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:02.479 like that dude. 1:11:02.400 --> 1:11:05.599 Knows football like no other inside out, inside out. Brow 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:08.320 and Gruden's the same way. I love as Tate too. 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:10.960 Oh yeah, tape, you gotta watch the tape and fucking 1:11:11.080 --> 1:11:14.640 he's so serious about everything. But I love Mayoc though, 1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:16.679 and Gruden that fucking brother dialed. 1:11:16.800 --> 1:11:18.600 Are you gonna see him next week? Oh yeah, I 1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:22.200 see them all the time in the work. You know 1:11:22.240 --> 1:11:26.639 what I'm saying, got this guy? Well come hey. 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:30.800 Remember hey, remember something goes you know left you got them? Yeah, 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:34.759 you know you got well yeah growing up. You mentioned 1:11:34.800 --> 1:11:37.320 playing ball in Texas? Yeah, oh yeah, what was it 1:11:37.400 --> 1:11:39.200 like playing high school football in Texas? Were you were 1:11:39.240 --> 1:11:41.080 you actually in it? Like where you where'd you actually 1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:42.880 play at? Like what it is? So I played at 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:45.920 college Ohritage, we played Trinity play South like Carrol. 1:11:46.280 --> 1:11:48.120 Some of the best teams in the country. Bro. 1:11:48.280 --> 1:11:51.360 Like our our division my senior year was one of 1:11:51.360 --> 1:11:54.720 the highest ranked like conferences in the country. Like there 1:11:54.800 --> 1:11:57.160 was dudes, like I I was telling you on the 1:11:57.160 --> 1:12:01.600 way here. Like we played played Cedar Hill in the 1:12:01.600 --> 1:12:04.280 first round of the playoffs the Cowboys Stadium. They had 1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:07.360 like fifteen to twenty Division one players. Like in my 1:12:07.479 --> 1:12:09.560 school we were six A. So we're the highest of 1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:12.519 the high ranking. So we of our school, like we 1:12:12.520 --> 1:12:15.920 were the one school that didn't have crazy talent, because 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:17.519 a lot of those schools of South Lay Carroll's they 1:12:17.520 --> 1:12:20.280 have like six thousand kids, like Allen's thirty minutes down 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:22.120 the road where Kyler Murray went. Yeah, oh, they have 1:12:22.200 --> 1:12:25.280 like fucking it's like a college campus. It's unbelievable. So 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:28.439 like us, we were just below. We were just at 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:30.160 the limit where we had enough kids where we could 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:32.599 be six A. But once I left, we went down 1:12:32.680 --> 1:12:35.439 like we lost a couple hundred kids and we went 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:38.320 down to five A. So like my last two years, 1:12:38.320 --> 1:12:40.280 like high school, like we were bro. Every game was 1:12:40.280 --> 1:12:44.040 a war, like in the environment, like we have fifteen 1:12:44.080 --> 1:12:46.840 thousand in our in our high school and we have 1:12:47.000 --> 1:12:50.439 big ass stadiums, Like our stadium was sick. 1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:53.599 Oh, so you're playing Texas football. We're playing real like 1:12:54.040 --> 1:12:55.120 every every week. Bro. 1:12:55.240 --> 1:12:57.679 I played like there was a stretch during that season 1:12:57.720 --> 1:12:59.800 we played like ten was ten games. In high school, 1:13:00.200 --> 1:13:02.040 I played like six weeks in a row of Division 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:04.760 One Power five tackles. It was my first year playing 1:13:04.800 --> 1:13:07.320 d n B. I was a linebacker my whole life 1:13:07.320 --> 1:13:09.439 and just hit a girl spur and they're like I 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:11.719 was six or five and goofy and fucking awkward. 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:17.040 They're like yeah, and we got new coaches and everything, 1:13:17.040 --> 1:13:17.639 and I'm like all. 1:13:17.640 --> 1:13:19.360 Right, like hey man, you run like a giraffe. You 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:20.639 cannot play linebacker anymore. 1:13:20.800 --> 1:13:21.240 Move them up. 1:13:21.280 --> 1:13:23.479 They're like, put them on the line. So I played 1:13:23.520 --> 1:13:27.280 DM BRO I was playing played against Alabama. An Alabama kid, 1:13:27.840 --> 1:13:31.559 fucking Connor Williams. He was a starting tackle for Coppell 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:33.960 and he's like he's a starting guard for the Cowboys. 1:13:33.960 --> 1:13:37.640 Now there's fucking every fucking week, bro, kids at a 1:13:37.640 --> 1:13:38.800 big school, Texas Tech. 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:41.439 It was like, this was my first year playing. 1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:44.800 I'm just trying to not in Missouri my thing, bro, Hey, 1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:45.759 not in Missouri. 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:48.000 Yeah, like I was. I was able to do my thing. 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:50.479 I was making I was, I was making plays. But 1:13:50.600 --> 1:13:53.799 like it was real football, Like this ship was fucking life, 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:58.560 like the parents are, bro. The tailgates were fucking insane. 1:13:58.600 --> 1:14:01.639 The whole parking lot. Everybody's at the game, bro, every 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:03.759 Friday night. It was like fucking party. 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:07.320 Bro. It was nuts. Like I loved it. Oh, it 1:14:07.439 --> 1:14:09.160 was unreal. Yeah, not Missouri. 1:14:09.200 --> 1:14:11.240 I'm just sitting here listening to him, like, man, it's like, damn, 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:12.280 Missouri wasn't shit. 1:14:12.479 --> 1:14:15.679 You went to fuck in Nebraska, you have that's true. Yeah, 1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:20.040 he went to Eastern Chigan. We literally had fifteen thousand, 1:14:20.120 --> 1:14:23.040 twenty thousand other games maybe at college games. 1:14:23.040 --> 1:14:25.559 Did you see the shit going on with Nebraska? No 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:27.559 talking about I'm trying to not play ou. 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:29.120 I don't know. 1:14:29.160 --> 1:14:32.640 I think it's money. I'm not listening. Scott Frost and 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:37.799 the boy Yeah, Scott Frost and the Boys anytime anywhere, 1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:40.519 he said it. You know what I'm saying, anytime we 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.840 might lose. You know what I'm saying, the probability is 1:14:42.920 --> 1:14:46.080 higher based on though we've been performing. But the boys, 1:14:46.120 --> 1:14:48.559 they ain't backing down from Oklahoma. It's the suits. There's 1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:50.040 some shit going on, you know what I mean. 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:53.760 I'll bet you right now they lose by thirty. 1:14:54.360 --> 1:14:56.280 You're gonna give me a thirty points. Friend, you're gonna 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:57.080 give me thirty. 1:14:57.000 --> 1:15:01.320 Thirty points Nebraska verus OU thirty five, Give me thirty four, 1:15:01.400 --> 1:15:06.000 give me thirty four board, Okay, thirty four relat twenty eight, 1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:13.120 I'll do thirty a thirty Yeah, saw it here. 1:15:13.479 --> 1:15:15.679 That's gonna be bad. You see his sigh. 1:15:16.080 --> 1:15:18.040 No, I love him, No, dude, And it's gonna be 1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:19.920 I think it's gonna be at Lincoln. But some's gonna 1:15:19.920 --> 1:15:22.240 get figured out. Somebody from the OU side leak something 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:24.640 because they're not getting their way in some negotiation. You 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:28.120 know what I'm saying. Like it's it's involved inside four 1:15:28.160 --> 1:15:30.040 walls that have nothing to do with the guys on 1:15:30.080 --> 1:15:32.360 the field, nothing to do with the coaches. Those boys 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:35.559 in Nebraska are ready to go anytime anywhere. Scott Frost said, 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:38.559 it and again you might get your ship pushed in, 1:15:39.920 --> 1:15:41.439 but we ain't backing down. 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:43.880 You know what I'm saying. Wait, I have a question. 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:45.200 Did you play with Malik? 1:15:46.200 --> 1:15:49.000 Uh No, he he just got there when I left. 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:50.760 But I know Malik. I know he's a He's an 1:15:50.760 --> 1:15:51.400 awesome dude. 1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:54.000 That's that's my dude. Yeah. 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:56.360 I get to watch him on uh I see him 1:15:56.360 --> 1:15:57.160 on Instagram. 1:15:57.280 --> 1:15:59.439 Yeah, he's a grinder. Looks like a grinder out there 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:01.120 with that dude des all the handshit. You know what 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:01.599 I'm saying. 1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:03.519 Moli can fucking hit some bags. 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:06.800 He said, fucking hits. He makes the drills look like. 1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:09.000 He was a hell of a player at Nebraska. He 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:11.759 was single digit, wasn't it. Yeah, he was number seven. 1:16:12.040 --> 1:16:14.360 You see a single digit the lineman with a fucking gut, 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:15.760 You're like, oh, he's fucking Yeah. 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:18.439 He had some sauce too. First round, him and Randy 1:16:18.439 --> 1:16:20.120 Gregory were on the same line as scrimmage. 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:23.200 Randy was He was one of my favorite players, bro, Dude, 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:24.280 he had some sauce. 1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:27.360 I love his fucking table and he's he came back 1:16:27.400 --> 1:16:28.880 this year and balled the funk out. 1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:31.880 Yeah, he's had those off field issues. He's he's got 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:34.280 like nine lives. But he's like a fucking cat is. 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:37.200 He's lucky, he is, and he's getting all those opportunities 1:16:37.520 --> 1:16:40.080 because he's a stud I'm talking about genetics. 1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:40.320 Bro. 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:42.760 He he housed one in Nebraska and it looked like 1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:44.280 he belonged to the ball in his hand. 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:47.200 I forget who they were playing, but I remember watching 1:16:47.240 --> 1:16:47.880 them all like this. 1:16:48.200 --> 1:16:51.840 Yeah, bro, fucking gliding Bro. Yeah, drop back and pick 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:54.400 all the time. Bro. I love watching him. Dude, he 1:16:54.439 --> 1:16:57.000 was a monster. Who did you play with that? Eastern Michigan? 1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:01.720 We didn't have any guys get draft in my year 1:17:01.880 --> 1:17:05.200 besides me, but yeah, I have a bunch of my guys. 1:17:05.280 --> 1:17:06.720 You go to any good bowl games? Did you go 1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:08.559 to a bowl game? Yeah? Fuck yeah? Bro? 1:17:08.640 --> 1:17:10.920 Like when I that was the thing, Like, you're fucking 1:17:12.280 --> 1:17:15.320 fucking hater, Bro, what bowl games did you go to? Listen, 1:17:15.320 --> 1:17:17.040 I'm gonna tell you the story. Eastern we went to 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:20.840 what bowl games? Bahamas ball and went to the fucking 1:17:20.920 --> 1:17:21.599 Chamellia ball. 1:17:21.880 --> 1:17:23.719 What's that? Alabama? Baby? 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:25.920 You said, Chlamenia ball flat ball? 1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:29.960 Yeah? It was Uh, it was great. No, but we've yeah, Bro, 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:34.400 it's a great, great venue. 1:17:35.320 --> 1:17:37.479 The Bahama Bowl, like I was gonna he was just 1:17:37.479 --> 1:17:39.320 gonna eat like he hit me with that one. 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:41.479 You know what I'm saying, Always say that Atlanta, so 1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:44.200 you have to be in. It was awesome. It's a 1:17:44.200 --> 1:17:48.400 great time. Human that now you bring up a good point. 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:50.559 I've been to Atlantis. It's a great time. We had 1:17:50.560 --> 1:17:53.799 a fucking blast. I was a freshman. I was fucking partying, 1:17:53.920 --> 1:17:55.160 having a fucking ball. 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:55.400 Bro. 1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.439 We were wild. Oh my boys, we were fucking We 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:01.040 didn't care. It was so much fun. But yeah, it 1:18:01.120 --> 1:18:01.519 was Uh. 1:18:02.040 --> 1:18:02.639 It was great. Bro. 1:18:02.720 --> 1:18:04.400 I went to Eastern. We were one and eleven my 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:06.479 red shirt year. When I read shirted it, I was 1:18:06.479 --> 1:18:08.000 like two hundred ten pounds. When I got there, I 1:18:08.120 --> 1:18:11.080 fucking looked like a I don't even know. I was 1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:14.240 just looking like a child, a baby deer. And I 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:17.600 fucking I ended up, you know, doing my thing, and 1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:19.960 my recruiting class came in, the next one came in, 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:22.000 and we fucking we changed the whole thing. My coach, 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:25.519 coach Creighton, big shadow of coach Creighton, he changed the 1:18:25.560 --> 1:18:28.000 whole program. Bro. We went there. We were the worst. 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:30.960 We were the laughing stock, laughing stock of Division one. 1:18:30.960 --> 1:18:31.400 Football. 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:33.680 We were ranked one twenty eight. I think that's how 1:18:33.680 --> 1:18:35.400 many D one teams are. We were ranked one twenty 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:38.799 eight when I got there, the worst of the worst, 1:18:39.040 --> 1:18:40.720 and we went there bro We went to fucking two 1:18:40.760 --> 1:18:43.080 bowl games one year. We didn't make it, were one 1:18:43.080 --> 1:18:44.920 game off, but like we really changed that shit around 1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:45.519 and competed. 1:18:45.560 --> 1:18:47.880 Like I guess everybody was so sick. 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:50.960 You learned something every day. I thought you were in AIA. Okay, 1:18:51.040 --> 1:18:54.240 let's relax. Run the mac, baby. What do you know 1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:54.800 about Max? 1:18:55.640 --> 1:18:58.599 Hey, I'll tell you what I enjoy it. I enjoy 1:18:58.720 --> 1:18:59.679 We'll show ever play anywhere. 1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:03.000 Were playing fucking Tuesday night and fucking in ball at 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:06.320 ball stay in Lorraine in fucking November, freezing. 1:19:07.240 --> 1:19:11.280 I do enjoy the Max social media, the big cat Max. 1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:18.200 Hilarious Max. It's hilarious big time. So Max, Max is 1:19:18.240 --> 1:19:20.120 the one I always talk about when I say, like, 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:22.639 when I got to the Raiders, there's a teammate that says, like, oh, 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:24.920 busting with the boys. Who knew of busting with the 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:27.639 boys When I got there, Max was the first player 1:19:28.040 --> 1:19:30.599 to You're like, oh, fuck yeah, Like you know, other 1:19:30.680 --> 1:19:33.640 guys know about it, other pro other pro guys know about. 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:35.760 It and Max Max is the one. Max is the 1:19:35.760 --> 1:19:36.680 one I always refer to. 1:19:36.840 --> 1:19:41.160 Oh yeah, bro, yeah, oh yeah, I remember that ship always. 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:41.639 Yeah. 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:44.600 Yeah, No, I watched I watched the show before I 1:19:44.640 --> 1:19:47.920 even knew you and ship. So they saw us we 1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:51.640 signed Will Compton. I'm like, that's fucking us busting with 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:54.439 the boys. Well I'm like, no, fucking let's go through 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:56.439 what I saw. I'm like, oh, I gotta say something. 1:19:56.640 --> 1:19:57.840 I had to get your hat. I had to get 1:19:57.880 --> 1:19:58.840 a lot of guys in the. 1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:01.439 Whole team out of having them. But yeah, yeah, bro, 1:20:01.600 --> 1:20:02.720 no it's cool. 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:03.880 You still rock the head. 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:06.479 I haven't seen it in a while. Nah, not all 1:20:06.520 --> 1:20:09.200 the time. I really don't wear it much, but I 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:11.400 would they, Bro, I got like a hundred of these. 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:14.000 They give us this this company shoutout residency. 1:20:14.040 --> 1:20:14.719 You know, they're no. 1:20:14.640 --> 1:20:18.680 Free shoutouts to companies, but big shoutout, you know. But 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:21.320 they fucking they give me hats on hats and this 1:20:21.560 --> 1:20:24.840 every color, just the LV, just the LV, Bro, And 1:20:24.880 --> 1:20:25.880 I'm a snapbag guy. 1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:28.280 You enjoy living out in Vegas? I love it, Bro, 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:29.320 I love it. 1:20:29.720 --> 1:20:32.720 I love it like it's pretty out there right, Hell yeah, 1:20:32.760 --> 1:20:36.479 it's like literally, Vegas is a bowl. Like it's literally 1:20:37.040 --> 1:20:41.120 there's Vegas. You got Henderson, Summerland. Then it's just surrounded 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:45.240 by fucking desert. But everything's right there. Like everyone thinks, Okay, Vegas, 1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:47.400 it's the fucking strip and it's just going on twenty 1:20:47.400 --> 1:20:50.439 four seven. But that's only the strip, like that direct 1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:54.120 little spot. But I live twenty minutes away. I'm in Henderson, 1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:57.680 a quiet ass old gated community. I don't hear anything. 1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:02.480 It's like I have a homie like feel. Like in California, 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:05.080 it was the opposite. Oh look in a tiny apartment 1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:07.679 with my fucking dogs and me and my girls stuff, 1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:10.000 and we hated it. And like now we have have 1:21:10.040 --> 1:21:12.400 a house, we got a pool. You know, we fucking 1:21:12.439 --> 1:21:16.360 just relaxed, like it's it's really cool. Soday. 1:21:16.640 --> 1:21:18.080 He's talking about his situation. 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:20.160 Yeah, you know, were you ever in the extended Say 1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:21.400 what do you mean? 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:24.120 I stayed when I was getting ready for my pro 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:26.360 day and even after my pro day, I was in 1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:30.400 a fucking extended state in uh ann Arbor in Michigan. 1:21:30.439 --> 1:21:33.640 Have you been in Alamedas? No, I would love to have. 1:21:33.640 --> 1:21:36.639 Compared to you always talk about it. Yeah, you guys 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:37.200 stand there. 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:38.800 I would walk in and I would have to get 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:41.160 checked by the skin doctor because I'd have all these 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:42.519 bites on my fucking body. 1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:44.320 Literally bad bucks. 1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:48.000 Yeah, dog, I'd come. 1:21:47.880 --> 1:21:49.880 Home, there'd be a little bit of like uh, some 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:52.880 eas essential meno assides, like a little bit of powder 1:21:53.000 --> 1:21:55.760 like dust on the table, and I'd come in there 1:21:55.880 --> 1:21:58.080 just be a frenzy of ants. Dude, I had to 1:21:58.120 --> 1:22:00.839 move rooms, no situ which would happened. 1:22:01.240 --> 1:22:07.040 Yeah, rough, But I like the one that people we're. 1:22:06.920 --> 1:22:11.040 Talking rough just smelled like weed the whole time. Dude, 1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:11.680 Oh alla meat. 1:22:11.720 --> 1:22:15.000 It was fucking yeah. 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Oh what do you say? 1:25:05.600 --> 1:25:05.920 Guys? 1:25:06.000 --> 1:25:09.680 Drinking before games on the Ryan Mascillo podcast, and he 1:25:09.720 --> 1:25:11.439 said there was a time when he played a game 1:25:11.479 --> 1:25:13.000 with a guy that was drunk in the huddle who 1:25:13.080 --> 1:25:15.040 ended up going for like two hundred yards that game. 1:25:15.160 --> 1:25:16.880 And uh and and. 1:25:16.880 --> 1:25:18.920 There's a bunch of other quotes that they pulled up to, 1:25:19.000 --> 1:25:20.920 like Clinton Port has said that he and Santana Moss 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:23.400 would take shots a Hennessy pregame to boost adrenaline. 1:25:23.439 --> 1:25:24.000 That's true. 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:25.920 Josh Gordon said he would take a couple of shots 1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:28.400 of Grand Marnier and take the biggest bong rip he 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:31.040 could like like. 1:25:30.920 --> 1:25:33.479 Bro, Like, I don't It's Josh Gordon, So yeah, you 1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:34.280 would assume. 1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:36.280 He's taking Hennessy shots a normal thing. I had people 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:37.840 out of Eastern and they were fucking before the game 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:39.560 before it. Cos pulled us up. Had a couple of 1:25:39.600 --> 1:25:41.799 my boys were running the fucking they'll run in the shower, 1:25:42.160 --> 1:25:44.720 smack the shop and they're like fucking ready to go. 1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:46.559 I never did that. I don't know. 1:25:46.560 --> 1:25:48.280 It kind of freaks me out, like yeah, I never 1:25:48.479 --> 1:25:50.880 be in my fucking mind. Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't. 1:25:51.200 --> 1:25:52.960 Too many checks going on. Then I got to hit 1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:53.960 with hey, check it empty? 1:25:53.960 --> 1:25:56.240 What aways like I don't know if I fucking take 1:25:56.240 --> 1:25:58.360 a shot for a game doing some crazy shit. 1:25:58.520 --> 1:26:03.280 But yeah, the Clint Port of Santana Moss sayings true 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:06.519 because teammates of Washington would say them in Santana like 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:09.360 they had all rip shots of Hennessy before a game. 1:26:15.640 --> 1:26:15.920 Whatever. 1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:21.000 Yeah, I mean yeah, at least three, that's right. Yeah, 1:26:21.040 --> 1:26:21.880 I've heard stuff like that. 1:26:21.960 --> 1:26:22.479 I heard him. 1:26:23.200 --> 1:26:25.479 I heard Antonio Brown would show up like right at 1:26:25.479 --> 1:26:27.879 game time, like when he was on the Steelers. 1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:31.439 Yeah, I mean he didn't really Yeah, yeah it was yeah, 1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:32.519 he was gone for the season. 1:26:32.600 --> 1:26:34.880 But yeah, that was that was wrong. 1:26:34.920 --> 1:26:37.000 But yeah, I know that Santana like all like yeah, 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:39.680 people take hitty to the head. I'm more like, you know, 1:26:40.160 --> 1:26:42.800 pass a doggie bag around a pre workout type of guy. 1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:45.720 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, what was it like 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:50.639 playing against Taylor? It was it was a tough game. God. Yeah, 1:26:50.720 --> 1:26:51.599 Now as you bring that. 1:26:51.640 --> 1:26:53.880 Up, you know, I think, what did I offer you 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:55.479 every sack that you got? What was it a few 1:26:55.520 --> 1:26:56.040 hundred dollars? 1:26:57.200 --> 1:27:00.840 You probably probably shouldn't say that, you know, running bounding program, 1:27:00.880 --> 1:27:02.240 We're not we're not in college anymore. 1:27:02.960 --> 1:27:06.600 But this was sacks on Taylor wasn't like hurt somebody, 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:09.040 but yeah, it was tough, bro, Like I don't know, 1:27:09.160 --> 1:27:11.360 I felt like, you know how the Titans are. 1:27:11.400 --> 1:27:13.120 They literally just pound the ball, pound the ball, and 1:27:13.160 --> 1:27:15.479 then they hite you with play action, so you're not 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:17.760 really getting a good feel of, you know, as a 1:27:17.840 --> 1:27:20.320 d M getting off the ball and like because you 1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:22.040 know most of the time they're running that ball, but 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:23.800 the one time you kind of get off slow because 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:26.679 you think it's a run, they're fucking launching that bitch 1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:27.479 down field of AJ. 1:27:27.640 --> 1:27:30.120 So like I already knew, like it was tough. 1:27:30.840 --> 1:27:33.640 Taylor's good too, So Taylor is different ship, And like 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:35.880 when you know you're protected in that way when you 1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:38.320 got to play action, you know it helps your line. 1:27:38.760 --> 1:27:41.719 And I and I was, Taylor, I want to play 1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:45.240 you again. I do, And I think it's going to 1:27:45.280 --> 1:27:49.960 be it is and I'm I'm gonna take up Will 1:27:49.960 --> 1:27:52.680 on that bet. And I think Taylor's a Pisa big 1:27:52.680 --> 1:27:53.400 shots of Taylor. 1:27:53.479 --> 1:27:56.559 But yeah, I remember walking up the Max that week, 1:27:56.560 --> 1:27:59.720 I like, hey, I need you to get sacks on 1:27:59.760 --> 1:28:01.920 the ball. Way, like, I'll give you five hundred per bro, 1:28:02.680 --> 1:28:03.719 but you gotta get sacks. 1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:05.880 On the boy. Uh but yeah it did. 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:07.559 It didn't work out the way we thought it would. 1:28:07.800 --> 1:28:08.479 We were sick. 1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:13.080 See what happened was first played the game. I've talked 1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:13.759 about it before. 1:28:13.840 --> 1:28:17.200 I'm fucking sitting on the bench because Saffold almost put 1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:19.160 me there, but it wasn't. 1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:23.479 It didn't go the way we thought it would. Yeah, 1:28:23.640 --> 1:28:25.559 he's a horse, he's a huge bro. 1:28:25.680 --> 1:28:26.639 The whole old line. 1:28:26.439 --> 1:28:29.120 As fu Oh yeah, the boys got a nice whole line. 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:33.760 Shout out the boys, man. But and one more thing 1:28:33.800 --> 1:28:36.879 on the stitch with the with the with the Washington 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:39.800 football team. As I just thought of this, there was 1:28:39.800 --> 1:28:42.200 somebody I won't say names, but a safety that played 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:46.120 on Washington who at halftime would go into the bathroom 1:28:46.160 --> 1:28:50.760 stall with basically, uh what do they call the I'm 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:54.280 jhonna blank right now, the fishing boxes tackle box with 1:28:54.439 --> 1:28:59.920 like a tackle box of you know stuff. The solves 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:05.680 it at halftime, but people knew that this guy was 1:29:05.680 --> 1:29:07.200 doing it. I'm not gonna say, you know, I'm not 1:29:07.240 --> 1:29:09.280 gonna you know, be for the boys. 1:29:10.439 --> 1:29:14.080 People probably figure it out, but yeah it's normal. 1:29:14.320 --> 1:29:16.160 Yeah, I mean you see you see you see some 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:16.800 ship man. 1:29:17.720 --> 1:29:19.840 What in my two years I've seen some of the 1:29:19.840 --> 1:29:21.240 crazy ship I've ever seen in my life. 1:29:21.320 --> 1:29:23.520 What's the craziest thing you've seen in your two years? 1:29:25.520 --> 1:29:27.560 I have a cap talking to fucking well, you know 1:29:28.280 --> 1:29:30.720 names or anything like that. It's just like, yeah, I 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:32.599 don't want you say names because we like we gotta 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:33.960 protect the boys. 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:37.040 Of course, but like, yeah, just the environment is not 1:29:37.160 --> 1:29:40.040 what I expected. I did not feel like there would 1:29:40.080 --> 1:29:42.800 be so many people as wild as myself when I 1:29:42.800 --> 1:29:43.799 first came in the league. 1:29:43.960 --> 1:29:46.479 I thought I was by myself. Get after it, dude. 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:48.680 I would come in, I would come in on a 1:29:48.720 --> 1:29:51.519 Saturday travel day days you travel, and there would be 1:29:51.600 --> 1:29:54.720 a couple of dudes sleeping in their lockers because they 1:29:54.760 --> 1:29:56.840 went out hard in DC the night before on a 1:29:56.880 --> 1:29:59.559 Friday night. Yeah, I've seen people just drunk and have 1:29:59.600 --> 1:30:01.000 to go at the facility. 1:30:01.720 --> 1:30:04.519 The crazy shit I've seen for me is like we 1:30:04.560 --> 1:30:06.479 play on a Sunday and I've seen guys go out 1:30:06.520 --> 1:30:09.759 on Friday Friday nights like four am and drinking strip 1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:11.479 clubs shit like that. 1:30:11.520 --> 1:30:13.679 And I'm like, what the dudes get after it? Yeah, 1:30:13.680 --> 1:30:14.479 they get after it. 1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:17.880 I mean there's there's the stereotypical life that people try 1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:21.360 to imagine, like it's out there. Sometimes it's a fucking wildlife. 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:23.599 Do to last or is it guys who don't stick 1:30:23.640 --> 1:30:24.040 around long? 1:30:24.160 --> 1:30:28.000 No, guys said, I'm referring to with that shit or 1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:29.280 like not even on the team anymore. 1:30:29.360 --> 1:30:31.760 Yeah, yeah, and the two I'm thinking the two I 1:30:31.800 --> 1:30:33.719 was thinking of that slept at the lockers, like, yeah, 1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:34.200 they weren't. 1:30:34.640 --> 1:30:36.800 It didn't last long, like maybe a year or two, 1:30:36.840 --> 1:30:37.360 you know what I mean. 1:30:37.720 --> 1:30:39.799 But there are guys who are ballers who are fucking 1:30:39.800 --> 1:30:42.760 crazy too. They'll do some wild ship like there's some 1:30:42.800 --> 1:30:46.880 pro bowlers who fucking get after it too, like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:48.800 you know what I mean. Yeah, there's some guys that 1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:50.720 just know how to handle like I don't know, you're 1:30:50.720 --> 1:30:53.040 just surprised. They just have They just have the gift. Yeah, 1:30:53.080 --> 1:30:54.960 Like you would never expect in a million years that 1:30:55.000 --> 1:30:57.559 they're like they party like that or anything like that. 1:30:57.720 --> 1:30:58.519 They just from there. 1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:00.920 I mean, Ocho Sink was in a partier, but it's 1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:03.200 very well documented that he just ate McDonald's every day. 1:31:03.320 --> 1:31:05.960 I mean, some guys can just do shit that makes 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:12.040 zero sense, no crazy, no, Like one of my boys 1:31:12.080 --> 1:31:13.920 would come in and he'd be like have a bag 1:31:13.960 --> 1:31:16.160 of fast food or something right in evening a meeting, 1:31:16.400 --> 1:31:17.680 you know what I mean. And it's just like, yo, 1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:20.160 what the fuck we got practice? 1:31:20.760 --> 1:31:26.240 If I hate that, like i'd had the same time. 1:31:28.520 --> 1:31:31.880 Hey, we had to strength coach at Nebraska Willie Jones. 1:31:31.920 --> 1:31:34.240 I think he's a strength coach at Illinois now, but 1:31:34.920 --> 1:31:37.640 for he got like initiated into the strength staff with 1:31:37.720 --> 1:31:40.160 Dallson and them, and they pushed a prowler, I think 1:31:40.160 --> 1:31:43.960 a sled like maybe a thousand yards and they had 1:31:43.960 --> 1:31:46.439 to put their body weight on the sled and push 1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:47.320 it a thousand yards. 1:31:47.360 --> 1:31:48.240 So you pushing how. 1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:51.320 Much do you weigh seventy on a prowler and you'd 1:31:51.360 --> 1:31:52.760 have to push it a thousand yards or it was 1:31:52.800 --> 1:31:55.599 something crazy like that. But they said Willy was shaking 1:31:55.640 --> 1:31:58.840 and fucking hurting so bad he had to go puke. 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:03.599 And while he was in the stall, he started shitting himself. 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:08.080 Shit just started running down his leg. Oh my god, 1:32:08.920 --> 1:32:11.760 I'm seen. We had a kid at Eastern Bro. We 1:32:11.760 --> 1:32:13.519 we did shit similar to that. When we would have 1:32:13.560 --> 1:32:16.760 our fucking stadium days. Bro, we had like twenty four 1:32:16.800 --> 1:32:18.559 of them or twenty two or whatever. It's a crazy 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:21.000 number running all the way up the stadium. You fucking 1:32:21.479 --> 1:32:24.560 jogged down and you're fucking hitting it, and we'd have overtime, 1:32:24.800 --> 1:32:26.240 so we're already fucking dead. 1:32:26.720 --> 1:32:28.559 Go overtime blah blah blah, and we're like. 1:32:28.640 --> 1:32:32.000 No, you would have to pick up whoever is fucking you, 1:32:32.040 --> 1:32:34.200 figure out who you team up was, you have a buddy, 1:32:34.560 --> 1:32:36.639 and you have to throw them on your fucking back 1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:40.559 and run up the stadium. Ye back down, bro, it 1:32:40.640 --> 1:32:45.679 was fucking shit getting speed wobbles like the There would 1:32:45.720 --> 1:32:47.920 be guys like it's your group, so you got ten guys. 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:50.720 There'll be one fucking dude who's like a running back 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:53.360 and he'll get stuck with a fucking moose, three hundred. 1:32:53.160 --> 1:32:54.439 Twenty pound guy and that's the car. 1:32:55.120 --> 1:32:57.360 I'm like, bro, I'm I'm not doing that because I'll 1:32:57.439 --> 1:33:00.599 drop your fat ass down the whole stadium like it's crazy, 1:33:00.760 --> 1:33:03.160 like we were, Oh my gosh, I had a roommate. 1:33:03.560 --> 1:33:09.080 I had a roommate, Alfonso, and he faked like passing out. 1:33:09.120 --> 1:33:12.400 He faked the cramp because we it got to you 1:33:12.479 --> 1:33:13.599 were gas after this. 1:33:13.600 --> 1:33:15.960 Huge uh uh what do they call it? County fair? 1:33:16.000 --> 1:33:18.160 Like workout one of those county fair workouts where you 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:20.720 got like eight stations, you're doing all these drills with 1:33:21.000 --> 1:33:23.640 vest On, push your prowlers, doing the most bro, and 1:33:23.680 --> 1:33:27.240 you're destroyed at the end. And he's like, all right, 1:33:27.320 --> 1:33:29.640 not overtime. But it was like, you know, it was 1:33:29.680 --> 1:33:32.040 basically that's what it was. We're gonna do extra get 1:33:32.080 --> 1:33:34.000 on the line. We're gonna do jingle jangles where you 1:33:34.120 --> 1:33:36.800 just run certain ladders like five back, ten back, or 1:33:36.840 --> 1:33:39.320 ten back, fifteen back, ten back, twenty back, shit like that, 1:33:39.479 --> 1:33:41.040 and you don't know when you're gonna stop. 1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:42.960 It's like all right on the line jingle jingles. 1:33:43.200 --> 1:33:45.640 And my roommate Fonso, he just he screamed with his 1:33:45.720 --> 1:33:48.920 high pitched voice, ah, and just literally acted like he 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:50.559 just fainted and passed out. 1:33:50.920 --> 1:33:53.599 And they literally they sprayed him down like right there with. 1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:55.599 The cooler water and they had to pick him up, 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:57.840 and he got picked up by like four people and 1:33:57.880 --> 1:33:59.679 they went and just dropped him in the cold tub. 1:34:00.080 --> 1:34:02.000 They just talked. They talked up as like a full 1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:05.920 body cramp. No, but we were freshmen, like it was 1:34:05.920 --> 1:34:07.000 our first hard work out. 1:34:07.040 --> 1:34:09.960 We were freshmen, bro, your first couple of weeks in 1:34:10.000 --> 1:34:11.719 college of the fucking they. 1:34:11.600 --> 1:34:12.439 Try and break you. 1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:14.360 We had a kid when I was my sophomore year. 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:16.240 There was a kid that shipped himself in the meeting. 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:20.439 He was so tired and exhausted in the meeting. It 1:34:20.439 --> 1:34:23.120 was an whole liveman, and this dude was dying. Bro, 1:34:23.200 --> 1:34:26.439 he was so exhausted. We had meetings after He's literally 1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:28.960 crawling into the meeting room and he got up out 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:30.679 of his chair after he was done at the meeting, 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:33.760 and there was literally a ship streak in his chair. Bro. 1:34:34.680 --> 1:34:38.080 Fucking it was. It was fucked up. Bro. 1:34:38.280 --> 1:34:40.559 Did you see some ship when you're in college man, 1:34:41.479 --> 1:34:43.680 and you think that wife, and then when you're on 1:34:43.720 --> 1:34:45.679 the other side of it, you're like, you know, how 1:34:45.800 --> 1:34:47.240 ridiculous is college? 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:50.160 What it was? Fucking oh my god the first couple 1:34:50.160 --> 1:34:52.440 of weeks or just unbelievable. 1:34:52.960 --> 1:34:56.639 Yeah, well, thanks for coming on, bro, Max Crosby Busting 1:34:56.640 --> 1:34:57.200 with the Boys. 1:34:57.840 --> 1:35:04.519 I appreciate you, man, and blast yah. Big shout out 1:35:04.560 --> 1:35:08.679 to you guys. If you enjoyed this episode and love 1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:12.679 and support Bustle with the Boys, go to whatever podcast 1:35:12.680 --> 1:35:15.839 platform you're on and subscribe to us. Leave a review 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:21.080 rate five stars. 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