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Speaker 3: We're not fucking running fifty leave.

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Speaker 4: Down, Hey, get the mic clothes bro. Welcome to Busting

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Speaker 4: with the Boys. We have an awesome guest on today,

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Speaker 4: Max Crosby. Everybody, we finally got the boy to Nashville.

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Speaker 4: We finally got the boy in Nashville after after how

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Speaker 4: many letdowns are two?

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Speaker 2: Three? I think two? Possibly? It was disappointing.

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Speaker 4: I'll say I was hurt because I felt like we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, uh, you know, a rough time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I told you I'll be here.

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Speaker 5: Let's h explain your voice because it's obviously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's all the time. No, I just had a

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Speaker 4: So oh wait, I haven't done this last couple of times.

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Speaker 4: This podcast is presented by Barstool Sports. Shout out the

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Speaker 4: boys of Barstool Sports. I always got to say that.

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Speaker 4: If not, like, it's just it's a bit of a deal.

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Speaker 4: He gets a little angry with me, which is fair.

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Speaker 4: It's meridian, but uh.

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Speaker 5: He so COVID you had it last year though in

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Speaker 5: I heard the old school.

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Speaker 2: And he's sending me all this ship. He was dead

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Speaker 1: He's sending me the drills, the name of the drills

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Speaker 4: Now was he coaching you through these videos that you

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Speaker 2: You go, great, way, that's it. He wouldn't even tell.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't even too you know what a legend.

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Speaker 1: He's a legend, bro, He's I've never been around someone

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Speaker 2: It's called edds Our everyday drills.

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Speaker 1: We do him every single day and started training camp

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Speaker 1: first ten minutes, we're going like, yeah, flying through bags,

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Speaker 5: How Uh, let's talk about the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Because the boys had it up and down year again. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you guys started off solid, similar to the year before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was six and three. Huge, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Every time.

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Speaker 5: Here, Hang on a second, my age is calling me, Neil, what's.

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Speaker 2: Up, little content superstar? What's up? Boss? Just wanted to see.

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Speaker 1: What you thought of TJ.

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Speaker 2: Hockinson and how that Boston radio interview went.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually uh about to interview Max Crosby, but TJ.

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Speaker 4: Hockinson was phenomenal. I didn't ask the question. I didn't

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Speaker 4: ask the would you cat your dig off for a

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: I'm glad, thank god. I know I told people you're coachable.

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Speaker 2: Uill beus Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he he was awesome. Were we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Good? So you're glad. I can't up on that. Oh absolutely,

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Speaker 2: And Max Crosby is the kicker.

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Speaker 5: No, no, he's a d N for the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm about to interview him, so I gotta

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Speaker 1: everyone's got to be fucking on the same page. Oh yeah, everyone,

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Speaker 1: It's it's different.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: Like Tampa Bay won and they weren't even the best

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Speaker 2: And to against the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got blown out, like they got blown out

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Speaker 2: But r Bro, they I don't know what they do

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Speaker 4: Dialed in at Isn't it insane? Like just Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: God, it's unreal, bro, it really is unreal. This Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I looked at him. I looked like I was looking

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's different, bro. I don't know what it

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Speaker 2: As far as like like if you're.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't outrun my dog. Yeah right, he's a meeta. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's hard, it's too hard.

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Speaker 4: You get one weekend between every game, like you're prepping

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Speaker 2: And it's just different, Like.

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Speaker 4: You have fifty three guys on a roster and you're

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Speaker 1: Fucking seven super Bowls by coincidence. Yeah, that just doesn't

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Speaker 1: It's that's it makes a difference. Bro, He's just yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and debate him about like

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Speaker 1: He knows how it looks, he knows how it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to Eastern Michigan trash cool. Yeah, okay, relax, well you

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Speaker 1: do beat Nebraska.

436
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Speaker 5: Okay, let's take it easy.

437
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Speaker 2: I'm serious. But anyway, we just going into that year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm coming from Eastern. I have a fourth round guy,

439
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Speaker 1: I have no expectations. Like just for me, I'm like, okay,

440
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just come in. I got to just prove

441
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 1: every single day that I've deserve to be on the team.

442
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Speaker 1: Like I wasn't even guaranteed the spot, like that was

443
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Speaker 1: a third string DM slotted in going into camp.

444
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Speaker 4: And y'all, y'all drafted, y'all drafted top five, same spot exactly.

445
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Speaker 1: So it was like, okay, Like I knew you would

446
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Speaker 1: have a lot more pressure than me. And for me,

447
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Speaker 1: it's like if I just come in, do my thing

448
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 1: every day, do what I've done all the college, come in,

449
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,479
Speaker 1: I'll work people and just make plays.

450
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Speaker 2: That's all I gotta do.

451
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Speaker 1: And for me, my mindset never changed and it was

452
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Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, I just had an opportunity.

453
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,679
Speaker 1: That's what it basically came down to. And you know,

454
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Speaker 1: I got my opportunity and everything, you know, panned out well.

455
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Speaker 1: But going into my second year, it was like, okay,

456
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Speaker 1: now it's flipped like now, okay, boom, you had ten

457
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Speaker 1: sacks of a rookie. Now everyone knows who you are.

458
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 1: You're getting expectation, more expectations.

459
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Speaker 2: You know. It's just a lot that goes with it.

460
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Speaker 1: And for me, like I didn't go to a big school,

461
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 1: so there's no social media outlet, it's like talking.

462
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Speaker 2: About you all the time. It was just a little

463
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Speaker 2: bit different. So like Eastern Michigan.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Eastern Michigan where yeah, in the middle of Ipsila.

465
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Speaker 1: No one goes there for vacation, but that's trash. I'm

466
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Speaker 1: giving a shout out to Ipsilanta because I love I

467
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Speaker 1: love Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Boys and it was just yeah, it was it was

485
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Speaker 1: a tough year mentally for me. I would say, you know,

486
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Speaker 1: early on, just trying to you know, battle, trying to

487
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Speaker 1: meet expectations and deal with a lot of shit I

488
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Speaker 1: had going on. So yeah, for just mentally was the

489
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Speaker 1: hardest thing for me.

490
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Speaker 2: But what was the hardest part mentally? Shit? Well, like

491
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Speaker 2: when you're sitting here.

492
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Speaker 4: Talking about like what's what's flashing in your head, like

493
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Speaker 4: what are the things that were the hardest mentally?

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, for me, coming off my rookie year, I'm

495
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: fucking it felt like nothing could go wrong for me,

496
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Speaker 1: and just like I got lost in the sauce a

497
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Speaker 1: little bit. And for me, I've always you know, been

498
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Speaker 1: a person who loves the fucking party and I like

499
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Speaker 1: to I was that kind.

500
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Speaker 2: Of guy in college and growing up.

501
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Speaker 1: So for me, shit, I always kind of it was

502
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Speaker 1: kind of an issue for me, but I just was

503
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Speaker 1: able to get through and shit like that. But once

504
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Speaker 1: you know, you have your first NFL off season, you

505
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: have four months off completely yeah, no rules, you know,

506
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: no class you gotta be at. For me, I just

507
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, I was lost in a way.

508
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Speaker 4: Oh so you're you're saying like you started to get

509
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Speaker 4: after it and get in the deep end with when

510
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Speaker 4: it comes to getting lost in the sauce parties.

511
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Speaker 1: I was just partying, and you know, I just I

512
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: was drinking way too much and got to a point

513
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Speaker 1: where I was like, Okay, what the fuck am I doing?

514
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 1: I woke up one morning, I'm like, I need help,

515
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Speaker 1: Like I can't even. I was at a point where

516
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Speaker 1: it was just it was I didn't I had no

517
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Speaker 1: management in my life. I was fucking all over the place.

518
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I went and got out. What happened that

519
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: made you realize, like, oh, this is fucking bro. I

520
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: was just I was lost. I was lost just mentally.

521
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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

522
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Speaker 1: I was so just my decision making and my fucking

523
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Speaker 1: my priorities were so backwards that it was just like, okay,

524
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Speaker 1: what am I doing? Like I just had a great

525
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 1: rookie year. I fucking I have money to take care

526
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: of myself. I have a beautiful house now in Vegas.

527
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Speaker 1: Like from the outside, everything looked.

528
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Speaker 4: Like you got it together, like figured.

529
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Speaker 1: It out, if it's got life under control. But incidebro,

530
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Speaker 1: I was fucking I was dying. Bro.

531
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Speaker 2: I was lost.

532
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Speaker 1: I was going through so much ship just dealing with

533
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Speaker 1: you know, different just distractions and shit going on, and

534
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: I was fucking just lost. So for me, I was like,

535
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Speaker 1: I need help. I call my agent. I fucking like,

536
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Speaker 1: what month?

537
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Speaker 2: Year? This is a day? Ago is a year.

538
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Speaker 1: I'm a year sober, So yeah, yesterday, Hey, let's fucking

539
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Speaker 1: go man. Yeah. So uh yeah it was. It was

540
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Speaker 1: big time. So for me, I'm I'm doing great. I'm

541
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Speaker 1: fucking in the building every day, training my ass off,

542
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm working the program.

543
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Speaker 2: Doing everything I need to do.

544
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Speaker 1: So like, just for me, I need I needed to

545
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Speaker 1: get everything reeled in, and I knew I needed help.

546
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Speaker 2: I wasn't at first.

547
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: It's the hardest thing is just walking in the door

548
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Speaker 1: accepting that you got a problem.

549
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Speaker 2: And for me, that's the hardest thing. And you see

550
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: people struggle with it.

551
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Speaker 1: They go to fucking rehab eight times and they still

552
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: can't you know, they can't deal with it.

553
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 2: There's so much going on.

554
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Speaker 1: So for me, it was just like, literally, this is

555
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: what I need to do. I got sold, everything is

556
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: going this way, but this is off the field. I'm

557
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: fucking just diving off a cliff. So I just yeah,

558
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Speaker 1: I fucking I talked to my team, I talked to

559
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Speaker 1: my family, my friends, my girl. Fucking it was the

560
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: hardest thing I ever had.

561
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: To do every day and go to go to La

562
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Speaker 2: get all my I just I had to go get right.

563
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Speaker 2: So you went to rehab in March.

564
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Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, bro, I was out there till yeah, March.

565
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: I left April eleventh. I was there for thirty days,

566
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: fucking in Hollywood and it was crazy, Bro. They fucking yeah.

567
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: I had to I had to get my shit together.

568
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Speaker 1: But it was the best thing that ever happened to me.

569
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Speaker 1: I knew life now a year later, I can't even

570
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Speaker 1: tell you. Just like for me, it's like I never

571
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: was grew up religious and shit like that. So for me,

572
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: it was I didn't know what it was, just like

573
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: me figuring it out. And my family were all we're

574
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: all in sports, and we just kind of figured out

575
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: what we did and found our way. And for me,

576
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: I was just lost, bro, and I needed to get

577
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Speaker 1: back on track. And for me, I knew this is

578
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Speaker 1: the one thing that's always been a crutch, like even

579
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Speaker 1: in college, like I gotta I got a duy in college,

580
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: I got in trouble. I tried to get sober, but

581
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: I wasn't working any program. I was just fucking my coach.

582
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Speaker 2: You know, he's more so just liear.

583
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Speaker 5: Like yeah, I'm gonna switch it up, and yeah, well.

584
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Speaker 2: It wasn't even that.

585
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Speaker 1: It was like boom, I got in trouble and I

586
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Speaker 1: got a duy. I'm like this, I'm going into my

587
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Speaker 1: last year. I'm like, listen, coach, I can't be out

588
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: two games. Like my second game, we're playing Purdue. It's

589
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: a big ten game for Eastern. Like that's huge.

590
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: I know it all out. I need to be on

591
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Speaker 2: the field. This is like huge.

592
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Speaker 1: I knew I was going to the going to the

593
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Speaker 1: league that year, So I was like, coach, I'll fucking

594
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Speaker 1: do anything, like you got to get me. I'll fucking

595
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: I'll do community service, do whatever you need to do.

596
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: So he's like, give me a couple of weeks. He

597
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: had a plan for me and whatever. But I wasn't

598
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: in AA, I wasn't working, you weren't actually fixing, white

599
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: knuckling and road trying to just I was just staying sober.

600
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: I will still go to parties and be in that

601
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: environment sobers the motherfucker miserable And now like I can

602
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: my girl can have wine and do her thing whatever.

603
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: But like it's completely different. I'm working a program I

604
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: have built in you know, fucking it's just a whole

605
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: program that I really you gotta unfold everything that you've

606
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: been through and going through it.

607
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Speaker 2: And I know you have Waller on here and Bro.

608
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you listened to that of course,

609
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 5: of course.

610
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Speaker 1: And Waller's me and Waller where we work with the

611
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: same people and we're fucking this my guy, like Bro,

612
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: that's awesome a ton. So it's it's awesome and it's

613
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: literally a day by day thing. But it's like my

614
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: life now off the field is going that way now

615
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: instead of fucking that way. So football is football. I

616
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: love football everything. I put everything into it. But if

617
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: I don't have the off the field shit right and

618
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: do that, I'm not gonna be to where I want

619
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: to be.

620
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

621
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Speaker 1: For me, like I fucking I want to be a

622
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. And people think probably right now, they're

623
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: probably like, damn, he's fucking arrogant.

624
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Whatever, that's how I think.

625
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And nobody thought I would fucking go and have

626
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: ten sacks of rookie.

627
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: No one thought I'd get drafted.

628
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: I left school a year early at Eastern and everybody

629
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: told me, I'm fucking nuts, don't leave, You're gonna fucking

630
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: go undrafted. But I said, no, I'm ready, and I

631
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: fucking just better myself, went to the combine, did my thing.

632
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: I've always better on myself. That's how I do things.

633
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, for me, this is another thing. It's like, Okay,

634
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: this is another path. I had, something I had to

635
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: figure out, and I've been fucking doing everything I can

636
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: to to do it.

637
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: And I'm a year sober.

638
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: I can't like at the time last year, if you

639
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: told me I'll be year sober today, fucking on the

640
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: bus with you, I'll be like, it's fucking.

641
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, well it makes sense why like

642
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: not that you're flaking And now I feel bad that

643
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: I'm giving you shit for flaking because you know what

644
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and you're like, you never use you never

645
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: know what people are going through.

646
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you never know, you really know, no idea. Yeah,

647
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: not a lot of people knew.

648
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 5: Because we're trying to navigate through the super Bowl.

649
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: We can't remember, like we're trying to oh you know,

650
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: I got deals, Like, yeah, I was I was doing

651
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: that feeling man like feeling yourself finding like the funnest opportunity.

652
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, just trying to have as much fun as I could.

653
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: But I was just lost, Like I was not happy

654
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: deep down. It was fun in the moment, but I

655
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: was just it got worse and worse, and I was like, Okay,

656
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: if I could fucking do everything I've accomplished so far

657
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: in my life, I can this. I'm a fucking attack

658
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: this shit just the same way as I do everything.

659
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: And that's what I've done. And it's been awesome, bro,

660
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Like I've fucking I've met so many, so many people.

661
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: I've been in rooms I never thought I would be in,

662
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: just like it's unbelievable.

663
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 5: But is this stuff you were dealing with in the season?

664
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, Bro, I was. I was doing doing

665
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: the whole deal. But I like, Bro, I was there

666
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: was a couple of times that showed up, you know

667
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: what I mean.

668
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: Like I'm asking because you're like, you went thirty years

669
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: into the rehab and then like, what's thirty days?

670
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 5: Not thirty years, not thirty days.

671
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 4: But like but say yeah, and then you're talking, You're

672
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: talking about you know, you were you were still in

673
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: it in the season, Like what's the process that goes

674
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: on after the thirty day thing. You know what I'm saying, Like,

675
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: I'm sure you're a d wall and you said you

676
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: meet people and talk about like what's the process that

677
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: you're continuing to work as you're going into the season

678
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: and also in season.

679
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I said, I got out April eleventh.

680
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: Then after that, I was like, okay, like Mai rehab,

681
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: Like this is like crazy to me. I'm like, we're

682
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: you nervous? Yeah, fuck yeah a little bit because I

683
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: just I didn't know it, like the thirty days I

684
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: had that. It's not like you just think you hear

685
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: the word rehab and ityone's like oh fuck, like what

686
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: like you're crazy?

687
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: Like people look at you like you're crazy.

688
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: Before me, it's like I'm comfortable with my skin, so

689
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, Like I'm doing what I

690
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: need to do.

691
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so absolutely whatever.

692
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: At first, I was a little freaked out, and once

693
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I got out, I was like, Okay, I did my

694
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: re I did my thirty days. Like I'm trying to

695
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: just go home and build my girl and the dogs

696
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: and do thing I mean in Vegas.

697
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I but it was in Vegas. You know

698
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like you're going to Vegas.

699
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like our you know, our front office people,

700
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: and like all the people I was working with, like

701
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, next now you're gonna go to sober living.

702
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: So it's basically like in a way, it's.

703
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Like getting out of jail and going to a halfway

704
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: house like so as I was like I got out

705
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I had to go fucking to

706
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 1: another place and do this. And I was like whatever,

707
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: I called my agent the first time, I'm like, fuck this, Yeah, yeah,

708
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: for sure home Like fuck that, like the first like

709
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: I did it, Man, I did it.

710
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: I fucking did it. I need to go home.

711
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: But I was at the end of the day I

712
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: made it was the best decision I ever made, was

713
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: staying there.

714
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: Bro.

715
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: I was in La all the way up into the

716
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: training camp. Week before training camp. I ended up staying

717
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: all the way April all the way to August, and

718
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: it was amazing.

719
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: Bro.

720
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: I found a trainer out there, and I was it's

721
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: basically sober living here in a house like eight guys

722
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: and everybody it's the same shit. You reab whatever. Then

723
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: you go to sober living and everybody they got. You

724
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: go like a weight room outside and everyone like they're lifting,

725
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: people are lifting and shit, and and you just chill,

726
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: like you do your meetings and shit like once a

727
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: couple times a week, and you.

728
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Do like your stuff that you're supposed to do. But

729
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: it's basically just chilling.

730
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Like it was a nice house and in California, and

731
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: like we just all hung out, like we became boys.

732
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 1: And at first I was so against it. I'm like,

733
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: fuck this bro, Like get me out of here. Like

734
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be with them. I'm trying to go home.

735
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: And you know, it took a while. I was kind

736
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: of just like in my own little for a minute. Yeah,

737
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: but then like I you know, I started meeting, you know,

738
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: talking a couple of the guys, and like everybody was

739
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: super cool, and like I still talk to them, you know,

740
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: to this day. It was a few guys, and like

741
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: I got people that I was in rehab with that.

742
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: I fucking still talk to right now.

743
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Like the relationships I made and like it's like fucking

744
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: the biggest blessing I've ever had my life. And it's

745
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: like the hardest thing I've ever had to overcome. And

746
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: then that's why I like, I carry that shit on

747
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: my sleeve. I talk about it because it's like somebody

748
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: else is gonna need it, because like right now someone's

749
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: going through the same shit I went through.

750
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: And Waller.

751
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Having Waller in that locker room, he saw, he knew

752
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: what was going on with me being sober, Like during

753
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: the season, you probably didn't know, but like people knew

754
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I was partying fucking hard like during the season, but

755
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: I was. You know, we're in the building six seven

756
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: days a week, so like you can't really do it now.

757
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: I do it, like you know what I mean.

758
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So like I was able to keep my

759
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: shit together, and but you hit that off season, you

760
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: got all the time on your hands.

761
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: It's just like yeah, because.

762
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 5: There's no structure, like you said, there's no collar I need.

763
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: I love structure, and I need structure. Like I love

764
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: having a schedule. I fucking like right now, I'm five

765
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: days a week, I'm at the facility, I'm lifting eight

766
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, doing all my rehab. I literally

767
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: go up and meet with our coaches all the time

768
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: like during the week. Like I like having that because

769
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't need to just be sitting at home fucking

770
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: ten hours a day playing video games. Like I come

771
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: home around two o'clock, my girl's there, the dogs, We

772
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: do our thing and like I got my meal prep

773
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: on point. Like I'm just like that's how my brain

774
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: needs to for me. It's like I need that schedule.

775
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: I need that playing Okay, boom, I'm eating this time

776
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: of the day. I'm I like having my ship planned

777
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: out because for me, just our minds being a having

778
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: that addictive personality.

779
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Oh, you need structure, bro, That's that's what I need.

780
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: And it's life is a lot more fucking easy now

781
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: and simple and I'm not looking over my shoulder worried

782
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: about fuck what do I do to this person? What?

783
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Like now it's like, Okay, I get everything out. I

784
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: fucking I've been talking to people that I've wronged, people

785
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: that I've you know, had fucked up situations while I was,

786
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, going through what I was going through, and

787
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: like just getting that shit out instead of holding it in. Like, bro,

788
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: it's the best feeling in the world. And like people

789
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: see that, they see what I'm doing for people. I'm

790
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: fucking helping multiple people and reaching out and doing things

791
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: like everything I can do because it's just it's that's

792
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: what like drives me now. It's like not the fame

793
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and all that shit, Like it's cool. Everyone likes that,

794
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: like everyone loves for sure, everyone does. And for me,

795
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I love football. I want to be the best, so

796
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I want to know that people know, you know what

797
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing.

798
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: That's how it is. But for me, like having all

799
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: that shit off the field and doing the right things

800
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: in life, that shit makes me makes me so much

801
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 2: more comfortable in my skin. It's fucking it's crazy, dude.

802
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 5: Good for you, man, Yeah, that's mean. I appreciate you

803
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 5: sharing that.

804
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean I had no clue obviously, But

805
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: and you never know who's watching either or listening right now,

806
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like somebody could be going

807
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: through something thinking because everyone thinks everybody perception of like

808
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: an NFL player or a professional athlete, like they have

809
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 4: everything together.

810
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: Oh you know, people don't get that everyone is a

811
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: human being and they all have their own shit. Absolutely, bro.

812
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I I was in college, I thought people were going

813
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: through issues and shit. When I came to the league,

814
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn right, there's some wild shit going on

815
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: and people really don't.

816
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 4: Know and we're all so masculine in alpha and we

817
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 4: have a hard exterior, and you always want to seem

818
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: like you have the right shit going.

819
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: On exactly, no matter what's going on, you always got to.

820
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Put on that like I'm good, like I could fucking

821
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, I can handle anything, right. That's what a

822
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: lot of people are scared of doing, is like fucking

823
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: something that you know, people got issues going through shit

824
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: and just like facing that ship out on and so.

825
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was.

826
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was like Gary Vee or

827
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: Rogan recently, but one of them made like the comment

828
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: I was listening to some like YouTube inspirational thing and

829
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: it was like, our insecurities are ours to own if

830
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: we just own them, like if we just if we're

831
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: vulnerable enough to just talk about them and own them

832
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: and admit that, like we have these issues going on,

833
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: then it just kind of liberates who you are because

834
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: you're able to talk about it and just be like,

835
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I'm a human.

836
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: Everybody has their own shit, you know what I'm saying.

837
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Literally, Like my favorite quote of all time is like

838
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: I heard a few here in a million times being

839
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: in the program and shit. But it's like if you don't,

840
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: if you've done nothing wrong in your life, then don't

841
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: judge me. Like if you're perfect, then you can judge me.

842
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, bro, every every

843
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: fucking person in this room hast ship. You're just like fuss,

844
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: I'll never tell any Yeah, bus my bad. Like everybody

845
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: has that thing. He's like fuck oh no, I won't say, like.

846
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, like college, I did some fucking crazy shit,

847
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: like some ship you try to like you know what

848
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has that. So like for anybody to

849
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: judge me because I've done what I've done, fuck that,

850
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Like that's cool. Like if you want to hate out

851
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: of me and do that, I'm fine. I'm happy with myself.

852
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing, and I know I'm doing

853
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: the right shit right.

854
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: Right right right, you can say, and you're you're in

855
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: your own like awareness about it too.

856
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see everything so much more clear, and it's

857
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: just like it's the best feeling, bro, And it's it took.

858
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: It took a lot because I was the same person

859
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: I was so like I really cared about my image

860
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: and I was like I need to be known as

861
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: like you know, hard ass like football player, blah blah blah.

862
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: Like that's just how we are. Like, that's how are bro,

863
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: it's our natural nature.

864
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: But our insecurities only grow because you have to be

865
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: a macho athlete all the time.

866
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: All the time in public with your family, everyone looks

867
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: at you like, oh shit, he's an NFL player, So

868
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: you got everything. You got to act like everything's fucking together.

869
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: But like, at the end of the day, bro, if

870
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: you admit the ship, that's what's being a man. Bro.

871
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't.

872
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: I don't people that try to put on a front

873
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: and do all that shit, that ship unravels eventually.

874
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day. And shit, if

875
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: I I have none to hide.

876
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: It's just like for me, that feels good, like just

877
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: absolutely able to talk to people and let people know

878
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: what I went through because.

879
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: It's gonna help me. Yeah, it's gonna help them who

880
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: you don't know is paying attention. And it also like

881
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: you put your own accountability in there too, because you're

882
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, saying it over and over and

883
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: you're putting it out there and you're kind of giving

884
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: yourself an accountability that you have to you know, continue

885
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: to kind of stay on the path.

886
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: One when did you and Waller first have a conversation

887
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: about it?

888
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: That's what I'm curious about, Like was there something you

889
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: sat back and looked at with Waller and You're like,

890
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: you know what I need to I need to fucking

891
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: admit that I have something going on here and he's

892
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 4: able to do it, and it kind of gives me, uh,

893
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: I guess, courage to fucking you know, feel better. But

894
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's him, but I'm saying no, it

895
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: had to have felt good knowing that somebody like Waller's out.

896
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: There talking about it.

897
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you see, like so for me, like it

898
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: wasn't me going like talking to Waller one on one.

899
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: That's not how it necessarily happened.

900
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: But I had, you know, our same people work with

901
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: each other, so like we have you know, mentor sponsors,

902
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: people were dialed in with all the time. So his people,

903
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: like I, they worked with Waller. So then his guy

904
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: kind of got what I was going through. And then

905
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: Waller found out. So it was like, yeah, They're like

906
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: just come to a meeting one night. And at first

907
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck that shit. I'm not like I'm so

908
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: nervous and like at first you're terrified. Like now like shit,

909
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: we have we have our meetings every week and like

910
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: it's the best fucking time. All the guys, all you

911
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: know former you know, guys that have gone through the

912
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: same shit, you know from different backgrounds and stuff. We

913
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: just as me Waller and good group of guys. Bro

914
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: Like we literally just it's an hour and we just

915
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: talked and just talk about what you're going through and

916
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: it's your story. Like the biggest thing is your story

917
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: is gonna help. Like we just talked about that, but

918
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: like just hearing like what Waller's going through, Like shit,

919
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: he's sober, he used to over three years sober, but

920
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: he's still a fucking human. He's gonna have problems and

921
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna have issues and shit come up.

922
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: And that's what helps me.

923
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, boom, he's been sober for three years,

924
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: but shit he doesn't have everything together, right.

925
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't have everything together.

926
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: I've been sober for a year, but I'm still learning

927
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: and growing so much. So for like me, it's like

928
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: there's fucking you see you hear from guys who are

929
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: forty five years sober and they're still dealing with, you

930
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: know this, fucking the littlest shit.

931
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: That would bother that they know they are, Like what triggers, Yeah,

932
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: like a triggered.

933
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 1: Any little thing, like just family, wife, kids, Fucking there's

934
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: so much shit too it to life in general. So like,

935
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: dealing with all that sober is not easy, especially for

936
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: someone who's an addict. Like that shit makes it even harder. Bro, Like,

937
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: you got to think about it. Normal people they like, oh,

938
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: I need to go go get a drink, like it

939
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: was a long day, but they could just have their

940
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: wine and go to bed. Like for us, it's different, bro, Like,

941
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 1: I can't just have you know, just have a beer.

942
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: You gotta get up.

943
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: Oh what the first drink is the bro, first drink

944
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: is the problem.

945
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: It's not the same the team once that have the

946
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: first beers open and I shild it's it's on, like.

947
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: Frank to take once just touches your lift and.

948
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: You never know where the fuck's gonna happen. Like that's

949
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: just the reality of how it is. So I'm not

950
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: afraid to say that, bro, Like, I've been through a

951
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: lot of ship in my life, and this has definitely

952
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: been the hardest one. That I've gone through, like just

953
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: fucking going through it, bro, Like the first few months

954
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: I was struggling hard. Oh yeah, I can only imagine.

955
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Like the first week you're like if it's like the

956
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: biggest relief. It's like you're getaway, like okay, I'm out

957
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: of this ship like my fresh star.

958
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: Then like okay, a couple of weeks go by, like okay,

959
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: now what the fuck do I do?

960
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: In a month? A couple of months ago, I'm like

961
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: this fucking sucks. And now but in the again, you're

962
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: in Vegas. Yeah, that's the crazy part Vegas. Yeah, but

963
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: like I'm in Henderson, fucking quiet neighborhood. So it's like

964
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: it's it's cool, but it's like my point is like

965
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: you're you just got to stay the course.

966
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: It's one day at a time. You're never at the end.

967
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: You're never at the end, bro. It doesn't matter if

968
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: you're fifty five years in, if you fucking like both,

969
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: if you started letting the hand off the wheel, kind

970
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: of sitting back, doing kind of jumping over a little

971
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: fucking you know, little obstacles and shit you're usually doing that,

972
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: shit adds up and that could fucking that can lead

973
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: to that drink.

974
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: That's what it is for me. Bro, you gotta be

975
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: fucking two hands on the wheel. I'm dialed in.

976
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: Bro.

977
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: I wake up every morning, every night, I do the

978
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: same thing, do my little you know, say my little prayer.

979
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I fucking have my meetings. I'm doing everything I need

980
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: to do because that's what I need. And like I

981
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: love it because it's a part of that structure. I

982
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: love that structure. Like that's what makes me, you know,

983
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: be successful. Right, So it helps a ton. It's just

984
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: like it's life in general. It's not even just alcohol.

985
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: It's like this, oh absolutely life, bro. Like a normal

986
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: person who's going through it, they deals with depression.

987
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: If you just sit in a room and talk.

988
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: To people and have that conversation and open up about

989
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: certain shit, it helps. It helps so much, Bro. It

990
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what's going on with you, so and talk

991
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: about those insecurities. Oh fuck yeah, because that's all that

992
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: shit buried up. That that shit builds up, and it's

993
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: like that's where you just explode eventually.

994
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean that it is too. Like that's

995
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: like with life.

996
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: Like if you like you're using an analogy, sitting back

997
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: and get a little loose with the wheel because you

998
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, you have two hands on the wheel right now.

999
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: And with anything like you start to get comfortable or

1000
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: feel yourself or think like you've made it, or you're

1001
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: at the end of something like literally it never ends,

1002
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: all right.

1003
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 5: Callan said it on the on the pod, like, be

1004
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 5: careful what you practice.

1005
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: You might get really good at it, or you might

1006
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: get really good at the wrong thing. Yeah, you start

1007
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: to let loose, You're starting to practice being lazy or

1008
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: doing this, or letting yourself, you know, get off track

1009
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: a little bit, and then all of a sudden you're

1010
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: in it.

1011
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 2: You're in that lane. Yeah.

1012
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: You it's literally all it takes a Habit isn't hard

1013
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: to you know, hard to grow. Oh yeah, you do

1014
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: it one time like, oh shit, and then I can

1015
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: I I could, you know, sleep in a little bit more.

1016
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 2: I can.

1017
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't really need to hit all eight reps on

1018
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: a fucking reverse hyper, like I don't need to do

1019
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1020
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: Ready, terminology, you lose it, he said, eight reps of

1021
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: the reverse hypers, getting them hamstrings.

1022
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

1023
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: That's just how it is, bro. It's like life in general.

1024
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm that's the main thing for me.

1025
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: It's like football. It's the same ship. Every little detail

1026
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: in life, bro. If you're doesn't matter what it is,

1027
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: your family, taking care of your kids, every little thing. Yeah,

1028
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: all of all that, ship, Bro, you get to relaxed

1029
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: and comfortable. Ship's not gonna go well, it's.

1030
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 4: Just yeah, well good for you, man, Like, that's an

1031
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: awesome fucking story.

1032
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: I am. I did not know we were gonna go

1033
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: down that kind of you started going. I was like, oh, ship, Like, no,

1034
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: that's just I mean, but I do.

1035
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a It says a lot about you

1036
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: growing in it because you're able to talk so openly

1037
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: about it. Like similar you know, we keep talking about

1038
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: d Wall but similar with him, he's just able to

1039
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: talk so freely about it. And like I, I haven't

1040
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: had to go through something like that, but just something

1041
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: as small as I've been doing premarial counseling with my

1042
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: fiance and even that stuff, it's like you start learning

1043
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: about what therapy is really like talking to a therapist

1044
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: or somebody that can help you get this emotions out

1045
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: of your basement that you didn't even know you had.

1046
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like you're sitting there talking.

1047
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 4: I'm talking one time because we were talking about living

1048
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: in different places, and I'm talking about how I like

1049
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: living in Nashville, and she wants to live around like,

1050
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: you know, the beach or nature or something like that,

1051
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: somewhere that's not around people that I already know. And

1052
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: you're sitting there talking about it, and you start to realize, like, oh,

1053
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: I've just been comfortable moving around because I'm always going

1054
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: to my next city, to a next football team. Because

1055
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: she's like, well, when you moved to Nashville, you didn't

1056
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: nobody in Nashville. But in my head, I'm like, but

1057
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 4: I knew I was going to a locker room, like

1058
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: I knew I was going around people that I knew.

1059
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: So anytime I've had to move from Nebraska to DC

1060
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 4: to Oakland and Nashville, like, I always know, I'm going

1061
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: in an environment that I recognize. So that fear of

1062
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: not wanting to live somewhere where she's talking about living

1063
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: because she's not in the bubble that we'rer in my

1064
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 4: whole life Like that's where my fear comes from. And

1065
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: you sit there and you talk about your transition with football,

1066
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: how do you feel about your train like not playing

1067
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: football anymore will And I'm like, you know, I'm not

1068
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: like too nervous about her. It's scared about it because

1069
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 4: i feel like I've built I've prepared myself for this

1070
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: transition with busting with the boys and being like, you know,

1071
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: an advocate for doing things off the field that keeps

1072
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: my mind where I just.

1073
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: Don't identify as a football player. So I'm like, you know,

1074
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm not too nervous about it.

1075
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: And she's like, you sit there and you talk about

1076
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: your life with and she's like, no, like you're scared,

1077
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: like you're sad, like you fear it, and I'm like,

1078
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, I mean, she's like, listen, you don't have

1079
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: to be macho, like just talk about why you might

1080
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: fear it. And you're sitting there talking and you're going

1081
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: around and you're like as a kid going from little

1082
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: league to high school and just the next segment was

1083
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: paid for you or paved the way, was paved, paved

1084
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: the way, whatever you want to say, but you just

1085
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: go from locker room to the locker room and you're

1086
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: just always for thirty one years, it's just been my yeah,

1087
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: thirty years, right, it's already installed with the next move

1088
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: is going to be for me sort of like there's

1089
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: some unknown, but I know I'm playing ball and just

1090
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 4: being on the other side. She's like, no, like that

1091
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: is hard, Like that is tough, Like you don't have

1092
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: to act like it's not tough.

1093
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: And you're sitting there. She's like, you know, pick a

1094
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: word on the table, you pick a word from that sheet.

1095
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: Thing that everybody knows about. You said, you pick a

1096
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: word stuff. She's like, talk about it, and you're just

1097
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: sitting there. You're like, I I've kind of thought I

1098
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: already did talk about it. Like they're like, no, like

1099
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: you elaborate more, like what do you think it is

1100
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 4: that you're fearing?

1101
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 2: And you go on and on and the next thing

1102
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: you know, you're crying. You got tears coming.

1103
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: Out of your eyes and you don't know why. And

1104
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 4: I'm uncomfortable with big emotions. So I'm like, you know,

1105
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there trying to use humor to get out

1106
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: of this conversation, you know what I'm saying. And you

1107
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: got to sit there and live in this world, in

1108
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: this basement of your your vulnerabilities that you didn't even

1109
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 4: know you had or have words to even come up

1110
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: with it, and like, you know, I've been in tears

1111
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: like five out of the seven appointments and you just

1112
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: don't know why. But I know at the end of it,

1113
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: I like love it. Feel amazing, dude, I feel amazing.

1114
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: You sit there, you know, you're like wiping your eyes

1115
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: and stuff. You get out with your girl and you're like,

1116
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: you know, this is awesome. You just have an awareness

1117
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: about like that you're learning with yourself that you're just

1118
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: like now I see, like you see that side of

1119
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: it where people talk about therapy, whether it's they're going

1120
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: through an addiction or just going to regular therapy or

1121
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: just they're battling things where you just go and talk

1122
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: with somebody, Like I do think there's there's something to it.

1123
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: I love it, Like I just absolutely love it. Shout

1124
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Speaker 4: out Sagegi by the way, because they're the ones. They're

1125
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 4: the that's the spot I go to in Nashville. But

1126
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: you're talking about all that stuff, and I dig it

1127
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: because I'm sitting here and you're saying things that you

1128
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: were once very uncomfortable talking about like you did. Like

1129
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: you you've told me, You're like, you know, you didn't

1130
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: want people to know, and now you're able to talk

1131
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: about it and you just kind of feel liberated about it.

1132
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: And it's like you're You're coming up with these things

1133
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 4: in therapy that I've realized that I've had in the basement,

1134
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: and you just feel so much better actually talking about

1135
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: it and owning these insecurities that you actually have.

1136
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: It's the fear of the unknown, bro.

1137
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: It's like every like you said, everything in life, the

1138
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: fear of going in just walking in the door.

1139
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: It's just like me getting sober.

1140
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: It's like the fear of the unknowns, Like, Okay, you

1141
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: have a million things going through your head. How the

1142
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: fucking I lives over? How can I not party? How

1143
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: after a game on a plane, how am I not

1144
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna want to drink a beer with the guys?

1145
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 2: How? Like a million things you're going through your head.

1146
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: But you'll never figure the shit out unless you walk

1147
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: through that door and actually like.

1148
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 4: And you're like, do I actually like I know I'm

1149
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: going in to gets over, but do I actually want

1150
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: to get you?

1151
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Just all these.

1152
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: Conversations, it's just like you with the wife and all that. Bro,

1153
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: I've had to deal with it, my my girl. We

1154
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: fucking we've gone through all that. Like I've been with

1155
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: my girl since college, Like we've had our ups and downs.

1156
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: You've seen it all, bro, So it's like and.

1157
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 4: You got to get some stuff out that you're like

1158
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: nervous to talk about everything.

1159
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 2: Bro, we couldn't even have the normal conversation.

1160
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: But you have someone that's you know, not that doesn't

1161
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: have a motive or an objective behind like just narrating

1162
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: basically laying out the floor for you and your girl

1163
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: or whoever.

1164
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: It is just yourself right, Like it's you.

1165
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Just you talk to you and talk to your girl,

1166
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: and you'll be like damn, like why the fuck did

1167
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: we just talk about this before?

1168
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: Like this is so simple?

1169
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: Yea, this shit like we've been stressing about for a

1170
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: fucking year, right, all we had to do is have

1171
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: one conversation.

1172
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: But like that's life, bro.

1173
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: Everything I feel like that shit always ties to it,

1174
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: ties to everything, bro, just being just like the fear

1175
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: of the unknown like stops a lot of people from

1176
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: doing what they really want to do with their life.

1177
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: Like for me, that's why the sobriety, Like back to it.

1178
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: I know I've talking about It's the same thing, bro,

1179
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Like the fear of the unknown. When I was leaving

1180
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: in college, Bro, my coaches, my decordinating, all them, They're

1181
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: blowing my phone up, bro for days and like, and

1182
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't blame them, because it was tough. Like they

1183
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: didn't really know I was leaving. I told my coach

1184
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: right before the bowl game, my head coach. I told them, coach,

1185
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really I think I'm leaving. I think I'm

1186
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna declare whatever, go out to the Phoenix. I got

1187
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: everything set up. I already knew who I wanted as

1188
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: my agent and shit, and you know, we got that

1189
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: all dial But it was just like that fear of

1190
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: the unknown. It's like you're terrified, like, oh, fuck, Like

1191
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: what if I leave school right now and like I

1192
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: go undrafted fucking doesn't go this way, blah blah blah blah.

1193
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: And then like I just what if I just went

1194
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: back to school and didn't do it, Like I don't

1195
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: even know where I'll be right now. Yeah, Like, but

1196
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: just fucking getting in that doorbell, taking this leap of

1197
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: faith is like that's the number one thing, Bro.

1198
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: It's the hardest thing.

1199
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: That's the hardest thing is just choosing to take action.

1200
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: Fuck it, Bro, just saying fuck it. And it's funny.

1201
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: You're like you're talking about you and your girl, and

1202
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: it's like you just needed that third party person to

1203
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: sit there and kind of lay it out. Because the

1204
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: way I explained it, like doing the premieritial counseling, is

1205
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: like you have all these things that you wish you

1206
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 4: could kind of have those conversations about.

1207
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anytime it.

1208
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: Does so like for instance, say Charles comes home and

1209
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: I haven't cleaned up something, and she's like, I know

1210
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 4: in her mind she's doing the best way to be Hey, babe,

1211
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: you know, do you think you can clean this up?

1212
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: Or would you like me to clean this up? Or

1213
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 4: I know you said you're going to clean up, but

1214
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: you would you like me to go ahead and do

1215
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: it for you? And in my mind I know she's

1216
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 4: even though she's doing it in a very extremely nice way,

1217
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 4: I know she has in my mind an angle about it.

1218
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: Or something usually happens for you to have a conversation,

1219
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: so somebody's guard is usually up going into any convers

1220
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 4: you're just gonna.

1221
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: Sit there and watch TV.

1222
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: Hey, let's talk about you know, when you didn't do

1223
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: laundry a few weeks ago, you know what I'm saying.

1224
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: You're usually your guard's usually up.

1225
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: About something, or something usually happens to make you talk

1226
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: about it. We're going to primoral counseling or therapy with somebody.

1227
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 4: You're sitting there taking these personality tests and you're doing

1228
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: all these things, and they're bringing up conversations for you,

1229
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: and you're kind of like, oh, yeah, this is a

1230
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: good thing to talk about, and then you dive in

1231
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 4: and you're reaching back and stuff in your childhood, your

1232
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: history that you didn't even know.

1233
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, but it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Man, A huge advocate, huge advocate for the premoral counseling.

1235
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Speaker 5: We're going to continue to do it. But therapy in general,

1236
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Speaker 4: let's get let's give it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 4: Playing with Marcus Marcus Mariota, yes, somebody. He came from Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: He goes over to the Raiders. I know he's an

1270
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Speaker 4: offensive guy. Yeah, what was it like having having Marcus,

1271
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 4: having a fellow boy from the Titans over.

1272
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: Over on the Raiders. I know he's quiet, So you

1273
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: might not even have a whole lot, see I do.

1274
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: And this is I'm happy you ask. Like, so when

1275
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: I first got you know, we got back in the

1276
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Speaker 1: building and went, you're any camp and stuff. One is

1277
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Speaker 1: you know, part of my routines and my structures. I

1278
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: have to go in the hot tub and cold tub

1279
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: after every practice no matter what, or I don't, I

1280
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: can't sleep at night.

1281
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 5: So I literally what a life has full life to live?

1282
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Bro? Like if I'm not if I if I don't

1283
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: get in the colto after practice and like something goes

1284
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: wrong the next day, I'm like, I'm like, that's why

1285
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: my fucking legs aren't where they need to be.

1286
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Speaker 2: I'm fucking crazy like that.

1287
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: You guys know me now, But that's just how so

1288
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm in the hot tub shilling after a day of practice,

1289
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: and fucking Marcus was always you would always be in

1290
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: there with me. It was just me and him, and

1291
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: I got to meet him and got to talk to him,

1292
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: and he's super cool.

1293
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: He's one of the most humble dude. He's so genuine

1294
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: good dude. Bro.

1295
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: I fucking love Marcus and his girl now fiance. I

1296
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: believe she played soccer at Oregon and my girl played

1297
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: at Eastern Michigan with me when we.

1298
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: Were at school. She was I see both of you. Yeah,

1299
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: so you know, the genetics are very strong.

1300
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, so she met, you know, me and Marcus

1301
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: met each other, and then Rachel and Marcus's fiance they

1302
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: met each other and they started playing like rec league

1303
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: basically soccer, just the same guysy and stuff, and they became,

1304
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, good friends and everything like that. So me

1305
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: and Marcus this offseason, we're gonna sometime soon we're gonna go, yeah,

1306
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: you know or something and have dinner. And but yeah,

1307
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: he's just a he's a really good dude. And I

1308
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: don't like practicing against him at all because he was

1309
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: playing scout quarterback and he's fucking flying around the field

1310
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: and it like it helped a lot, just cardio wise, Like,

1311
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta chase this motherfucker.

1312
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 2: He's running, he's trying to get his in. You know

1313
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 2: he's not. He's going all out.

1314
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I respected it, and I'm in practice

1315
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: we will get irritating a little bit, but I knew

1316
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: I had to run. Fucking Carl Nasa big shout out

1317
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: to Carl, this is my guy, bro.

1318
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: He would lose his mind in practice.

1319
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: It was like week sixteen, like week fifteen, late in

1320
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: the year, and Marcus is still scrambling, juking, running fifty

1321
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: hours on the field, and Carl he's you know, he's

1322
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: a bad He's been to leave us six years now.

1323
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: He's other big white defensive end. Carl would fucking lose

1324
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: his mind and fucking yell at Marcus like.

1325
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: Fucking slowed down.

1326
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking running fifty I'm like, Carl, it's okay.

1327
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 6: Like after it would be over, He's like he's like

1328
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 6: we're playing Drew, but like he would lose a ship.

1329
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 6: I'm like, Carl, just breathe, baby, come on, we're good.

1330
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 6: We gotta get it in and he's like be like nah,

1331
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: like he would be happy. You know, we had to

1332
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 6: go through it, but in the moment, he would absolutely Bro,

1333
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 6: he lost.

1334
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 5: His ship, especially legs you're a little heavy.

1335
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: Carl is a character, Bro. He would fucking go just

1336
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: something the little ship would he would just it would

1337
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: just set him off. Bro, we would fucking die.

1338
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 5: Staying on quarterback Derek Carr is everybody.

1339
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: Aware of all the bullshit he and he endures in

1340
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: the media, social and all that.

1341
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: Ship Dude, Yeah, well it's it would be impossible unless

1342
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: you literally have no social media.

1343
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: Is that not some craziest thing?

1344
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Bro? He trends like every other day. It's unbelievable because

1345
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: he's fucking good.

1346
00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: Bro.

1347
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: He had his best season, his best season of his career,

1348
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: and you look at every number, every stat whatever, and

1349
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: people still look for a reason to try to shoot

1350
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: on him. And it, like, for me, it bothered me

1351
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: because I know Derek. I me and Derek have an

1352
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: awesome relationship and he's like the one guy. If everyone

1353
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: just knew him and had a conversation with no question,

1354
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: you would feel like a piece of garbage trying to

1355
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: downgrade him. So he's some fucking the dude's in the

1356
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: building every day. Five o'clock first due in the building.

1357
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: He fucking the dude is dialed twenty four to seven

1358
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: and he's a quarterback.

1359
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: So you know he's busy. But he literally not.

1360
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: A time goes by where he doesn't text back. You

1361
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like he's the most genuine dude.

1362
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: Yes, goes out of his way and he just he's

1363
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: a great dude, and his place speaks for itself. You

1364
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: look at our season. We went eight and eight. Our

1365
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: defense was not good. It's a fact. It sucks, and

1366
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: I was a part of it. I could be better home.

1367
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 4: You guys shoulder some of that, like the heat he takes.

1368
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 4: You're like, man, if we just fucking played better. But

1369
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 4: you look at our offense. We're ranked top ten. We

1370
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: averaged twenty eight points a game. We should not be

1371
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 4: a name. Yeah, that's not on Derek Carr. Derek Carr

1372
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 4: is bawling.

1373
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: Fucking hurdling in mid air and trying to get a

1374
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: first down.

1375
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: Like I respect the ship out of that. There's nothing

1376
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: I can say bad about him. The dude is awesome,

1377
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: and it is annoying, Like people love for some reason.

1378
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 5: He's like whatever, guy, I know, they just.

1379
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Go after like there's always trade rumors, there's always like yo,

1380
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: were bringing them back? Like it's just I don't know.

1381
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know where it comes from, but it's unbelievable.

1382
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't either.

1383
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1384
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: It might be them eyelashes he's got he's got them eyelashes.

1385
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: That makes you kind of like, what's this fucking guy about?

1386
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I mean maybe no, yeah,

1387
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: but what this family played in the NFL, Like yeah,

1388
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 4: like I don't I feel you on that.

1389
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: That was just kind of before.

1390
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true, that is true.

1391
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: But I mean he's he's like, Derek's a baller dude.

1392
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: He's been to three Pro Bowls.

1393
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: Is it's wild to me because you see something probably

1394
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 4: every other day. It's hilarious and I just don't I

1395
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 4: don't know. It's it's fascinating, especially when the d struggled.

1396
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: The defense we struggled heavily. We would do coaching changes.

1397
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: You did I did a little I did a little

1398
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: segment on that.

1399
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we had a you know, new coach.

1400
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: We had a bunch of new pieces that came in

1401
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: no offseason. Every level, we had new guys playing that

1402
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: have never played together. Communication, wise was not where it

1403
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: needed to be. Leadership wise wasn't where it needed to be.

1404
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: And I take responsibility. That's something I definitely am gonna

1405
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: work towards and being a better leader and more vocal.

1406
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, we just weren't on the same page,

1407
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: Bro at all, and it was tough. I felt it's

1408
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: just like this is the worst thing, Like you could

1409
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: lose a game whatever, a tough game. You like you're

1410
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: back and forth, but it's like everyone knows this is

1411
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: a fucking elephan in the room. Like the defense is

1412
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: struggling that ship that bothers the ship out of me, Bro,

1413
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: I can't lie, Like, yeah, it was rough, but yeah,

1414
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: they try to use DC as like a scapegoad for

1415
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: every issue. I'm like, he's the one dude on the

1416
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: team that you don't have to worry about like DC, oh,

1417
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: no question, Like that's it's it's crazy, Bro. I feel

1418
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: like Stafford was similar to Stafford, like in Detroit, he

1419
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: had to go through all that ship, but like everyone

1420
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: knows Stafford's a baller Broster Like, so.

1421
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting.

1422
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah I had to I talked about PG on one episode. Yeah,

1423
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 4: I know, did you hear it did you listen to

1424
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: PG called? PG called after that segment, and I was nervous.

1425
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: I was definitely nervous about it because I'm like, he called, Yeah,

1426
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: he called, you know, give me Yeah.

1427
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, hey, COM's PG. Give me a call

1428
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 4: back when you get this. I'm like, oh man, he's

1429
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: calling about that episode. Yeah, and the the the person

1430
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: inside me did not want to call him back. But

1431
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, like, Okay, if I'm going to talk,

1432
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: if I'm going to talk about him and I'm going

1433
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 4: to talk about that issue on the pod, then I

1434
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: need to be I need to have the stones to

1435
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: call him back and talk to him. And so you know,

1436
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 4: he we had we hit. We had a productive conversation.

1437
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: But uh but yeah, he wasn't he wasn't a big

1438
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: fan and rightfully, so like it's fair and it's not.

1439
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 5: It's never on just one guy at all. It's not

1440
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 5: on one.

1441
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: Guy that goes into it, bro especially in the NFL,

1442
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of a lot of things that

1443
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 1: go on, and like, yeah, no, I don't I don't

1444
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: blame him for being mad. I don't blame yeah, yeah,

1445
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: for sure, I know you like just it's another thing.

1446
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: It's like the pride thing is, pride is everything and

1447
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and like I get it,

1448
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm me personally. I have my relationship with him,

1449
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: never had a problem with him. Dude is always good

1450
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, so like yeah, like you know, everybody

1451
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: has their own opinion, and it's like that's a that's fine.

1452
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to agree with everybody, that's for sure.

1453
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: For sure. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, like I get

1454
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: into everything. It's just this is what it is. But yeah,

1455
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: it's funny.

1456
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a conversation. Was it was awkward, it

1457
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: was tough, for sure. I'm glad I did it. I'm

1458
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 4: glad I didn't puss out by calling back broad Yeah,

1459
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 4: I'm glad I did it. And you know, it was

1460
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: it was fair that he didn't like he didn't like it,

1461
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 4: but again, like you're just talking about your own player

1462
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 4: perspective of everything. He's like, look, I can't help I

1463
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: couldn't get you back to Vegas. I'm like, bro, I

1464
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 4: promise it had nothing to do with that because I

1465
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 4: was close to coming. I was close to coming that

1466
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: uh and fortunately the boys, the Titans offer what do

1467
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 4: you say.

1468
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 2: I was close to close.

1469
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 4: I was close to climax. But yeah, man, you know

1470
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 4: it's it suck because I did want to go. I

1471
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 4: did want to go play for the Raiders again, but

1472
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: it was like you couldn't not you know, having a

1473
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 4: home here and everything else and playing for the Titans.

1474
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't blame you. You saw the jersey swap. Yeah,

1475
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: when I was on the Raiders.

1476
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 4: Not only did you, but it was it was an

1477
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 4: awkward room because I was like last coming in the

1478
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 4: locker room, and then it was kind of awkward the

1479
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: next day, Like it ain't like it rich.

1480
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: She's like a motherfucker, dude, I know I taking pictures.

1481
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, dude, I know.

1482
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: Like I struggled with that, but like also I knew

1483
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 4: it was just in the moment, Like I knew it

1484
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 4: was just anger and emotion. Like in the moment, I

1485
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 4: was trying to like be outside of that and like, look,

1486
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: I know him on the back end. These moments don't

1487
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: just happen, Like you don't just play in the NFL forever.

1488
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 4: Like this is a game that I don't even remember

1489
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 4: what the score was now, but like it's gonna be

1490
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 4: an afterthought, like this moment, I just did it, but

1491
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 4: I knew. I knew I was gonna have some like looks,

1492
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: some side ice from it, rightfully, so like it was merited.

1493
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm like I got it.

1494
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you're gonna bust my balls. But people

1495
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 5: you like just do it.

1496
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: To piss off and just because he was like oh boys, yeah,

1497
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm like you fake motherfucker.

1498
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: I knew that would flock to it. Oh I know, yeah,

1499
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: but yeah I get it.

1500
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: Bro. It's like me, I'm playing what if I played

1501
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: ten years of the Raiders or whatever? And then I

1502
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: go somewhere else and I come back and like, I

1503
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: know all the coach, I know people on the team,

1504
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: they probably do the same thing.

1505
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I don't blame him, Yeah, Rich Cherty, I

1506
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 4: love Rich. I respect this ship out of coach Rich.

1507
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: Fucking guy Masachia. No I I I written cover that. No, no, no, no,

1508
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: I actually.

1509
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 4: Do though, Like I fuck with Rich Like he's a

1510
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: he's a. He's a he's a he's a good leader.

1511
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 4: He's a fucking leader amongst men, wrong fucking leader.

1512
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: Phenomenal speeches too.

1513
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: He's a realist, bro. He will tell you exactly how

1514
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: it is. And he's another dude that when I was

1515
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: going through what I was going through, that was one

1516
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: motherfucker that I would face high me all the time.

1517
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Speaker 1: Just see I didn't want to see your face. Man,

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Speaker 1: that's fucking awesome. Yeah, he's a fucking real one.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

1520
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Speaker 1: I go and see him all the time. I just

1521
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: go in his office and the ship. Yeah, he's a

1522
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: good fucking dude. No, he's fucking awesome.

1523
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Speaker 4: When I wrote that undrafted blog or whatever, he's like, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I fucking love this and stuff, and you just he's

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1526
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about. He's just fucking awesome.

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Speaker 5: They look phenomenal? And I always tell him every.

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Speaker 4: cap the it's been like, what everybody's going on?

1555
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: What massacre Week?

1556
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,479
Speaker 4: I think Pat McAfee show credit to Pat McAfee show

1557
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 4: calling it massacre week, but dudes have been getting cut.

1558
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 4: Guys who had big deals, they might be getting longer

1559
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 4: in the tooth. Guys are getting cut, deals are getting restructured.

1560
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 4: You're seeing these new deals like Levante he signed my

1561
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 4: boy Levonte David, he just signed a baby two years

1562
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: twenty five twenty guaranteed seventeen and a half that signing.

1563
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 4: But so instead of, like I want to say, it's

1564
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 4: like the signing bonus that they might be spreading. Instead

1565
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 4: of spreading it out over two years, he signed for

1566
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 4: like five years, right, three voidable years, So they're able

1567
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 4: to spread that signing bonus out for like five years.

1568
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 4: Like teams are getting savvy and creative. Yeah, but it's

1569
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 4: been a uh it's been a crazy week. How do

1570
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 4: you feel about, uh, the Chiefs because they're in the

1571
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 4: division letting go of both of their both of their tackles.

1572
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 5: What did you think when you saw that come across

1573
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 5: the ticker?

1574
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: Well, it's honestly, it definitely surprised me, like everything.

1575
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: It was funny. I woke up, I woke him in

1576
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: the morning, and I had so many people fucking doing

1577
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: like different memes and shit. They're like Max Crosby when

1578
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: he wakes up this morning, blah blah blah. It's like

1579
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: these crazy ass memes and I'm like, what the fuck?

1580
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I don't know, bro, it's tough. Like

1581
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher tore his achilles, Like that's the fuck. That's tough.

1582
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, So it's like, yeah, like I don't know.

1583
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: To put the team in a hard spot, it puts

1584
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: the player in a hard spot. And like Mitchell Schwartz is,

1585
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: he's been dealing with a lot of bad like back

1586
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: problems and he's had issues too, So I don't know

1587
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: if they're gonna bring the guys back. But like I

1588
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: played the Chiefs this year. The first time I played,

1589
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: they were both playing, and the second time, I think

1590
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: Schwartz was out. Yeah, so Schwartz was out and Fisher

1591
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit banged up, so like, yeah, you

1592
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: saw what happened, Like, yeah, was struggling, bro, they and.

1593
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: Now they just let go both them started out. So

1594
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: obviously you know they have a plan. They're not domb Yeah,

1595
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: they're not gonna not do We're gonna revamp and get

1596
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 2: some guys for sure. So I peel.

1597
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 4: I saw one funny when it was like mahomes because

1598
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, he was trying to put the team on

1599
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 4: his back in the Super Bowl, but he's like throwing

1600
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 4: the ball laterally, and they're like, you know, fuck it,

1601
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 4: Like we'll put it all on Patch Mahomes. Like yeah,

1602
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 4: we saw him, you know, get rid of the whole line,

1603
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 4: crypt clear up the cast pace and just let Pat

1604
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 4: Mahomes do his thing. But that stuff's wild. And then

1605
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 4: Dak he signs a huge deal with the Cowboys. Uh,

1606
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones ponies up and pays him, and some people

1607
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,879
Speaker 4: were saying that that could be tipping off.

1608
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: The TV money.

1609
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw something where it's like he could be

1610
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 4: tipping off what the TV deals might look.

1611
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: Like between the NFL. Uh. But I mean it's it's

1612
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: been a wild off season already and honestly hasn't even

1613
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: started because for agency opens up next week. I'm excited.

1614
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: I look, you love this time of the year, just

1615
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: like seeing all the ship as a kid, and like

1616
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: in high school and shit, I was so fucking into like,

1617
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: all right, who's signing here? But yeah, I grew up

1618
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: a fucking diehard Lions fan. Ironically, it's kind of funny.

1619
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: But you grew up a diehard Lions fan.

1620
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: I lived in Michigan all was ten and I moved

1621
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: to Texas and went to middle school, high school.

1622
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: O day.

1623
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: So I've bro was a big Lions fan. So I

1624
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: was always locked in on free agency. Like now, like

1625
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: being in the league is I go ship? Now you

1626
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: really know what's going on and like it's interesting. It's scary,

1627
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, I kind of like it's it's entertaining for sure.

1628
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 5: All Right, Has there anybody that's gotten the acts from

1629
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 5: the Raiders?

1630
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1631
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 4: We uh oh I saw Trent Brown. You guys dealt Trent.

1632
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we cut three of our starting alignment. Damn

1633
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: got Ritchie and we cut Trent no Way? Yeah fuck man.

1634
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if people are coming back like

1635
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: some maybe.

1636
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 5: You guys got you guys got some big free agents

1637
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 5: up too.

1638
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. I

1639
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: don't know. It's it's crazy.

1640
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: Bros do something every day. Yeah, like he's up, Nick

1641
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: morro elly Yeah, Aglaura had a fucking amazing season. I

1642
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: don't know what it's gonna have with Jonathan Hankins, my boy,

1643
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: big Hank. Yeah me, it's a free agent. I don't

1644
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: know what they're go You know. Uh, it's interesting.

1645
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: Bro Mayak and Grudener in the lab.

1646
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: Dude, you know they're in the lab, bro may I

1647
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: I know Mayok is in there like he's having like

1648
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: eighteen hour days or something ridiculous.

1649
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: He seems like he just loves the ship.

1650
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: Dude.

1651
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had a conversation with him. He's like,

1652
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: it's my dream job. I worked the NFL that way.

1653
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 2: I did that.

1654
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: I just studied players twenty four to seven. They they

1655
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: came with this opportunity, and now I really get to

1656
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: do it. Like this is what I've always wanted to be.

1657
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: Like Boom, Now he's a fucking real NFL GM and

1658
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: like that dude.

1659
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: Knows football like no other inside out, inside out. Brow

1660
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: and Gruden's the same way. I love as Tate too.

1661
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tape, you gotta watch the tape and fucking

1662
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: he's so serious about everything. But I love Mayoc though,

1663
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: and Gruden that fucking brother dialed.

1664
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: Are you gonna see him next week? Oh yeah, I

1665
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: see them all the time in the work. You know

1666
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, got this guy? Well come hey.

1667
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: Remember hey, remember something goes you know left you got them? Yeah,

1668
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 1: you know you got well yeah growing up. You mentioned

1669
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: playing ball in Texas? Yeah, oh yeah, what was it

1670
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: like playing high school football in Texas? Were you were

1671
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: you actually in it? Like where you where'd you actually

1672
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: play at? Like what it is? So I played at

1673
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: college Ohritage, we played Trinity play South like Carrol.

1674
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: Some of the best teams in the country. Bro.

1675
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: Like our our division my senior year was one of

1676
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: the highest ranked like conferences in the country. Like there

1677
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: was dudes, like I I was telling you on the

1678
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: way here. Like we played played Cedar Hill in the

1679
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs the Cowboys Stadium. They had

1680
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: like fifteen to twenty Division one players. Like in my

1681
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,560
Speaker 1: school we were six A. So we're the highest of

1682
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: the high ranking. So we of our school, like we

1683
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: were the one school that didn't have crazy talent, because

1684
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: a lot of those schools of South Lay Carroll's they

1685
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: have like six thousand kids, like Allen's thirty minutes down

1686
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: the road where Kyler Murray went. Yeah, oh, they have

1687
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: like fucking it's like a college campus. It's unbelievable. So

1688
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: like us, we were just below. We were just at

1689
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: the limit where we had enough kids where we could

1690
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: be six A. But once I left, we went down

1691
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: like we lost a couple hundred kids and we went

1692
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: down to five A. So like my last two years,

1693
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: like high school, like we were bro. Every game was

1694
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: a war, like in the environment, like we have fifteen

1695
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: thousand in our in our high school and we have

1696
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: big ass stadiums, Like our stadium was sick.

1697
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: Oh, so you're playing Texas football. We're playing real like

1698
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: every every week. Bro.

1699
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 1: I played like there was a stretch during that season

1700
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: we played like ten was ten games. In high school,

1701
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: I played like six weeks in a row of Division

1702
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: One Power five tackles. It was my first year playing

1703
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: d n B. I was a linebacker my whole life

1704
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: and just hit a girl spur and they're like I

1705
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 1: was six or five and goofy and fucking awkward.

1706
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: They're like yeah, and we got new coaches and everything,

1707
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 2: and I'm like all.

1708
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: Right, like hey man, you run like a giraffe. You

1709
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: cannot play linebacker anymore.

1710
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: Move them up.

1711
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: They're like, put them on the line. So I played

1712
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: DM BRO I was playing played against Alabama. An Alabama kid,

1713
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: fucking Connor Williams. He was a starting tackle for Coppell

1714
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: and he's like he's a starting guard for the Cowboys.

1715
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: Now there's fucking every fucking week, bro, kids at a

1716
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: big school, Texas Tech.

1717
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: It was like, this was my first year playing.

1718
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to not in Missouri my thing, bro, Hey,

1719
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 4: not in Missouri.

1720
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was. I was able to do my thing.

1721
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: I was making I was, I was making plays. But

1722
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 1: like it was real football, Like this ship was fucking life,

1723
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 1: like the parents are, bro. The tailgates were fucking insane.

1724
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: The whole parking lot. Everybody's at the game, bro, every

1725
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 1: Friday night. It was like fucking party.

1726
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: Bro. It was nuts. Like I loved it. Oh, it

1727
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: was unreal. Yeah, not Missouri.

1728
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here listening to him, like, man, it's like, damn,

1729
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: Missouri wasn't shit.

1730
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: You went to fuck in Nebraska, you have that's true. Yeah,

1731
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: he went to Eastern Chigan. We literally had fifteen thousand,

1732
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: twenty thousand other games maybe at college games.

1733
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 4: Did you see the shit going on with Nebraska? No

1734
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 4: talking about I'm trying to not play ou.

1735
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1736
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 4: I think it's money. I'm not listening. Scott Frost and

1737
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 4: the boy Yeah, Scott Frost and the Boys anytime anywhere,

1738
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 4: he said it. You know what I'm saying, anytime we

1739
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: might lose. You know what I'm saying, the probability is

1740
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 4: higher based on though we've been performing. But the boys,

1741
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 4: they ain't backing down from Oklahoma. It's the suits. There's

1742
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 4: some shit going on, you know what I mean.

1743
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: I'll bet you right now they lose by thirty.

1744
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna give me a thirty points. Friend, you're gonna

1745
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: give me thirty.

1746
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: Thirty points Nebraska verus OU thirty five, Give me thirty four,

1747
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: give me thirty four board, Okay, thirty four relat twenty eight,

1748
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: I'll do thirty a thirty Yeah, saw it here.

1749
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: That's gonna be bad. You see his sigh.

1750
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 4: No, I love him, No, dude, And it's gonna be

1751
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be at Lincoln. But some's gonna

1752
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 4: get figured out. Somebody from the OU side leak something

1753
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 4: because they're not getting their way in some negotiation. You

1754
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like it's it's involved inside four

1755
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 4: walls that have nothing to do with the guys on

1756
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 4: the field, nothing to do with the coaches. Those boys

1757
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 4: in Nebraska are ready to go anytime anywhere. Scott Frost said,

1758
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 4: it and again you might get your ship pushed in,

1759
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 4: but we ain't backing down.

1760
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Wait, I have a question.

1761
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 5: Did you play with Malik?

1762
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: Uh No, he he just got there when I left.

1763
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 4: But I know Malik. I know he's a He's an

1764
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: awesome dude.

1765
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: That's that's my dude. Yeah.

1766
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 5: I get to watch him on uh I see him

1767
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 5: on Instagram.

1768
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a grinder. Looks like a grinder out there

1769
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 4: with that dude des all the handshit. You know what

1770
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1771
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: Moli can fucking hit some bags.

1772
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: He said, fucking hits. He makes the drills look like.

1773
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: He was a hell of a player at Nebraska. He

1774
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 1: was single digit, wasn't it. Yeah, he was number seven.

1775
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: You see a single digit the lineman with a fucking gut,

1776
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he's fucking Yeah.

1777
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 4: He had some sauce too. First round, him and Randy

1778
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 4: Gregory were on the same line as scrimmage.

1779
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: Randy was He was one of my favorite players, bro, Dude,

1780
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: he had some sauce.

1781
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: I love his fucking table and he's he came back

1782
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: this year and balled the funk out.

1783
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's had those off field issues. He's he's got

1784
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 4: like nine lives. But he's like a fucking cat is.

1785
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 4: He's lucky, he is, and he's getting all those opportunities

1786
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 4: because he's a stud I'm talking about genetics.

1787
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

1788
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 4: He he housed one in Nebraska and it looked like

1789
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: he belonged to the ball in his hand.

1790
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 5: I forget who they were playing, but I remember watching

1791
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 5: them all like this.

1792
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, fucking gliding Bro. Yeah, drop back and pick

1793
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: all the time. Bro. I love watching him. Dude, he

1794
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 2: was a monster. Who did you play with that? Eastern Michigan?

1795
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: We didn't have any guys get draft in my year

1796
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: besides me, but yeah, I have a bunch of my guys.

1797
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: You go to any good bowl games? Did you go

1798
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: to a bowl game? Yeah? Fuck yeah? Bro?

1799
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: Like when I that was the thing, Like, you're fucking

1800
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: fucking hater, Bro, what bowl games did you go to? Listen,

1801
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the story. Eastern we went to

1802
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: what bowl games? Bahamas ball and went to the fucking

1803
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: Chamellia ball.

1804
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 2: What's that? Alabama? Baby?

1805
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 5: You said, Chlamenia ball flat ball?

1806
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was Uh, it was great. No, but we've yeah, Bro,

1807
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: it's a great, great venue.

1808
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 4: The Bahama Bowl, like I was gonna he was just

1809
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 4: gonna eat like he hit me with that one.

1810
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Always say that Atlanta, so

1811
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: you have to be in. It was awesome. It's a

1812
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: great time. Human that now you bring up a good point.

1813
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: I've been to Atlantis. It's a great time. We had

1814
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 1: a fucking blast. I was a freshman. I was fucking partying,

1815
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: having a fucking ball.

1816
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: Bro.

1817
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: We were wild. Oh my boys, we were fucking We

1818
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: didn't care. It was so much fun. But yeah, it

1819
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: was Uh.

1820
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 2: It was great. Bro.

1821
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: I went to Eastern. We were one and eleven my

1822
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: red shirt year. When I read shirted it, I was

1823
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: like two hundred ten pounds. When I got there, I

1824
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: fucking looked like a I don't even know. I was

1825
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: just looking like a child, a baby deer. And I

1826
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 1: fucking I ended up, you know, doing my thing, and

1827
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: my recruiting class came in, the next one came in,

1828
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: and we fucking we changed the whole thing. My coach,

1829
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: coach Creighton, big shadow of coach Creighton, he changed the

1830
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: whole program. Bro. We went there. We were the worst.

1831
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: We were the laughing stock, laughing stock of Division one.

1832
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: Football.

1833
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: We were ranked one twenty eight. I think that's how

1834
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: many D one teams are. We were ranked one twenty

1835
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 1: eight when I got there, the worst of the worst,

1836
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: and we went there bro We went to fucking two

1837
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: bowl games one year. We didn't make it, were one

1838
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: game off, but like we really changed that shit around

1839
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: and competed.

1840
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: Like I guess everybody was so sick.

1841
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: You learned something every day. I thought you were in AIA. Okay,

1842
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: let's relax. Run the mac, baby. What do you know

1843
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: about Max?

1844
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you what I enjoy it. I enjoy

1845
01:18:58,720 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 2: We'll show ever play anywhere.

1846
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: Were playing fucking Tuesday night and fucking in ball at

1847
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: ball stay in Lorraine in fucking November, freezing.

1848
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 4: I do enjoy the Max social media, the big cat Max.

1849
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 4: Hilarious Max. It's hilarious big time. So Max, Max is

1850
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 4: the one I always talk about when I say, like,

1851
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 4: when I got to the Raiders, there's a teammate that says, like, oh,

1852
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 4: busting with the boys. Who knew of busting with the

1853
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 4: boys When I got there, Max was the first player

1854
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 4: to You're like, oh, fuck yeah, Like you know, other

1855
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 4: guys know about it, other pro other pro guys know about.

1856
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 5: It and Max Max is the one. Max is the

1857
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 5: one I always refer to.

1858
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bro, yeah, oh yeah, I remember that ship always.

1859
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1860
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I watched I watched the show before I

1861
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: even knew you and ship. So they saw us we

1862
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: signed Will Compton. I'm like, that's fucking us busting with

1863
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: the boys. Well I'm like, no, fucking let's go through

1864
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: what I saw. I'm like, oh, I gotta say something.

1865
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 5: I had to get your hat. I had to get

1866
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 5: a lot of guys in the.

1867
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: Whole team out of having them. But yeah, yeah, bro,

1868
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: no it's cool.

1869
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: You still rock the head.

1870
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in a while. Nah, not all

1871
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: the time. I really don't wear it much, but I

1872
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: would they, Bro, I got like a hundred of these.

1873
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: They give us this this company shoutout residency.

1874
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 2: You know, they're no.

1875
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: Free shoutouts to companies, but big shoutout, you know. But

1876
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: they fucking they give me hats on hats and this

1877
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: every color, just the LV, just the LV, Bro, And

1878
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm a snapbag guy.

1879
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: You enjoy living out in Vegas? I love it, Bro,

1880
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: I love it.

1881
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: I love it like it's pretty out there right, Hell yeah,

1882
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: it's like literally, Vegas is a bowl. Like it's literally

1883
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: there's Vegas. You got Henderson, Summerland. Then it's just surrounded

1884
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: by fucking desert. But everything's right there. Like everyone thinks, Okay, Vegas,

1885
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: it's the fucking strip and it's just going on twenty

1886
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: four seven. But that's only the strip, like that direct

1887
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: little spot. But I live twenty minutes away. I'm in Henderson,

1888
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: a quiet ass old gated community. I don't hear anything.

1889
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,480
Speaker 1: It's like I have a homie like feel. Like in California,

1890
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: it was the opposite. Oh look in a tiny apartment

1891
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 1: with my fucking dogs and me and my girls stuff,

1892
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: and we hated it. And like now we have have

1893
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: a house, we got a pool. You know, we fucking

1894
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: just relaxed, like it's it's really cool. Soday.

1895
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: He's talking about his situation.

1896
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, were you ever in the extended Say

1897
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 5: what do you mean?

1898
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: I stayed when I was getting ready for my pro

1899
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: day and even after my pro day, I was in

1900
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: a fucking extended state in uh ann Arbor in Michigan.

1901
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: Have you been in Alamedas? No, I would love to have.

1902
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: Compared to you always talk about it. Yeah, you guys

1903
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: stand there.

1904
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 4: I would walk in and I would have to get

1905
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 4: checked by the skin doctor because I'd have all these

1906
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 4: bites on my fucking body.

1907
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: Literally bad bucks.

1908
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, dog, I'd come.

1909
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 4: Home, there'd be a little bit of like uh, some

1910
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 4: eas essential meno assides, like a little bit of powder

1911
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 4: like dust on the table, and I'd come in there

1912
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 4: just be a frenzy of ants. Dude, I had to

1913
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,839
Speaker 4: move rooms, no situ which would happened.

1914
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, rough, But I like the one that people we're.

1915
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 5: Talking rough just smelled like weed the whole time. Dude,

1916
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 5: Oh alla meat.

1917
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: It was fucking yeah. I don't even know how to

1918
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: explain it. It's like the Cecil Hotel.

1919
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: Yes, hey, serial killers, everybody's going through.

1920
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 5: That, cigarettes, homeless people and sex.

1921
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: Dude. But hey, shout out all of meat ext big shot.

1922
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 4: God, But that was a grind. I had to perseverere

1923
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 4: in that one. But can we have anything else? Heading

1924
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Speaker 2: Guys?

1971
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Speaker 7: Drinking before games on the Ryan Mascillo podcast, and he

1972
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Speaker 7: said there was a time when he played a game

1973
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Speaker 7: with a guy that was drunk in the huddle who

1974
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Speaker 7: ended up going for like two hundred yards that game.

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Speaker 2: And uh and and.

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Speaker 7: There's a bunch of other quotes that they pulled up to,

1977
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Speaker 7: like Clinton Port has said that he and Santana Moss

1978
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Speaker 7: would take shots a Hennessy pregame to boost adrenaline.

1979
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Speaker 2: That's true.

1980
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Speaker 7: Josh Gordon said he would take a couple of shots

1981
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Speaker 7: of Grand Marnier and take the biggest bong rip he

1982
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Speaker 7: could like like.

1983
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Speaker 2: Bro, Like, I don't It's Josh Gordon, So yeah, you

1984
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Speaker 2: would assume.

1985
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Speaker 1: He's taking Hennessy shots a normal thing. I had people

1986
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: out of Eastern and they were fucking before the game

1987
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Speaker 1: before it. Cos pulled us up. Had a couple of

1988
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,799
Speaker 1: my boys were running the fucking they'll run in the shower,

1989
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: smack the shop and they're like fucking ready to go.

1990
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Speaker 2: I never did that. I don't know.

1991
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Speaker 1: It kind of freaks me out, like yeah, I never

1992
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Speaker 1: be in my fucking mind. Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't.

1993
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Speaker 1: Too many checks going on. Then I got to hit

1994
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Speaker 1: with hey, check it empty?

1995
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Speaker 2: What aways like I don't know if I fucking take

1996
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: a shot for a game doing some crazy shit.

1997
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Speaker 4: But yeah, the Clint Port of Santana Moss sayings true

1998
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 4: because teammates of Washington would say them in Santana like

1999
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 4: they had all rip shots of Hennessy before a game.

2000
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Speaker 2: Whatever.

2001
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, at least three, that's right. Yeah,

2002
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Speaker 4: I've heard stuff like that.

2003
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Speaker 2: I heard him.

2004
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 4: I heard Antonio Brown would show up like right at

2005
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,879
Speaker 4: game time, like when he was on the Steelers.

2006
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he didn't really Yeah, yeah it was yeah,

2007
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: he was gone for the season.

2008
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was that was wrong.

2009
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I know that Santana like all like yeah,

2010
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 4: people take hitty to the head. I'm more like, you know,

2011
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 4: pass a doggie bag around a pre workout type of guy.

2012
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, what was it like

2013
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 2: playing against Taylor? It was it was a tough game. God. Yeah,

2014
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Speaker 2: Now as you bring that.

2015
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Speaker 1: Up, you know, I think, what did I offer you

2016
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Speaker 1: every sack that you got? What was it a few

2017
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars?

2018
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Speaker 2: You probably probably shouldn't say that, you know, running bounding program,

2019
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: We're not we're not in college anymore.

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Speaker 4: But this was sacks on Taylor wasn't like hurt somebody,

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01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was tough, bro, Like I don't know,

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01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 4: I felt like, you know how the Titans are.

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Speaker 1: They literally just pound the ball, pound the ball, and

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Speaker 1: then they hite you with play action, so you're not

2025
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Speaker 1: really getting a good feel of, you know, as a

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Speaker 1: d M getting off the ball and like because you

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01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: know most of the time they're running that ball, but

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Speaker 1: the one time you kind of get off slow because

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Speaker 1: you think it's a run, they're fucking launching that bitch

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Speaker 1: down field of AJ.

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Speaker 2: So like I already knew, like it was tough.

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Speaker 1: Taylor's good too, So Taylor is different ship, And like

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Speaker 1: when you know you're protected in that way when you

2034
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: got to play action, you know it helps your line.

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Speaker 1: And I and I was, Taylor, I want to play

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01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: you again. I do, And I think it's going to

2037
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: be it is and I'm I'm gonna take up Will

2038
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 1: on that bet. And I think Taylor's a Pisa big

2039
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: shots of Taylor.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I remember walking up the Max that week,

2041
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 4: I like, hey, I need you to get sacks on

2042
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 4: the ball. Way, like, I'll give you five hundred per bro,

2043
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 4: but you gotta get sacks.

2044
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Speaker 2: On the boy. Uh but yeah it did.

2045
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Speaker 5: It didn't work out the way we thought it would.

2046
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: We were sick.

2047
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 5: See what happened was first played the game. I've talked

2048
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:13,759
Speaker 5: about it before.

2049
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 4: I'm fucking sitting on the bench because Saffold almost put

2050
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Speaker 4: me there, but it wasn't.

2051
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Speaker 1: It didn't go the way we thought it would. Yeah,

2052
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: he's a horse, he's a huge bro.

2053
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: The whole old line.

2054
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Speaker 4: As fu Oh yeah, the boys got a nice whole line.

2055
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 4: Shout out the boys, man. But and one more thing

2056
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,879
Speaker 4: on the stitch with the with the with the Washington

2057
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 4: football team. As I just thought of this, there was

2058
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 4: somebody I won't say names, but a safety that played

2059
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 4: on Washington who at halftime would go into the bathroom

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01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 4: stall with basically, uh what do they call the I'm

2061
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 4: jhonna blank right now, the fishing boxes tackle box with

2062
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 4: like a tackle box of you know stuff. The solves

2063
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 4: it at halftime, but people knew that this guy was

2064
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 4: doing it. I'm not gonna say, you know, I'm not

2065
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 4: gonna you know, be for the boys.

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Speaker 1: People probably figure it out, but yeah it's normal.

2067
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you see you see you see some

2068
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 2: ship man.

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01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: What in my two years I've seen some of the

2070
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: crazy ship I've ever seen in my life.

2071
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,520
Speaker 4: What's the craziest thing you've seen in your two years?

2072
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 4: I have a cap talking to fucking well, you know

2073
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 4: names or anything like that. It's just like, yeah, I

2074
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 4: don't want you say names because we like we gotta

2075
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 4: protect the boys.

2076
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Of course, but like, yeah, just the environment is not

2077
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: what I expected. I did not feel like there would

2078
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: be so many people as wild as myself when I

2079
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 1: first came in the league.

2080
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: I thought I was by myself. Get after it, dude.

2081
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 4: I would come in, I would come in on a

2082
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 4: Saturday travel day days you travel, and there would be

2083
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 4: a couple of dudes sleeping in their lockers because they

2084
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 4: went out hard in DC the night before on a

2085
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 4: Friday night. Yeah, I've seen people just drunk and have

2086
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 4: to go at the facility.

2087
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: The crazy shit I've seen for me is like we

2088
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: play on a Sunday and I've seen guys go out

2089
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 1: on Friday Friday nights like four am and drinking strip

2090
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: clubs shit like that.

2091
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the dudes get after it? Yeah,

2092
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 2: they get after it.

2093
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 4: I mean there's there's the stereotypical life that people try

2094
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 4: to imagine, like it's out there. Sometimes it's a fucking wildlife.

2095
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 2: Do to last or is it guys who don't stick

2096
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: around long?

2097
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: No, guys said, I'm referring to with that shit or

2098
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: like not even on the team anymore.

2099
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and the two I'm thinking the two I

2100
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 4: was thinking of that slept at the lockers, like, yeah,

2101
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 4: they weren't.

2102
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 2: It didn't last long, like maybe a year or two,

2103
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

2104
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 1: But there are guys who are ballers who are fucking

2105
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: crazy too. They'll do some wild ship like there's some

2106
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: pro bowlers who fucking get after it too, like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

2107
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, there's some guys that

2108
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: just know how to handle like I don't know, you're

2109
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: just surprised. They just have They just have the gift. Yeah,

2110
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: Like you would never expect in a million years that

2111
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: they're like they party like that or anything like that.

2112
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: They just from there.

2113
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Ocho Sink was in a partier, but it's

2114
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 4: very well documented that he just ate McDonald's every day.

2115
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 4: I mean, some guys can just do shit that makes

2116
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: zero sense, no crazy, no, Like one of my boys

2117
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 4: would come in and he'd be like have a bag

2118
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 4: of fast food or something right in evening a meeting,

2119
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it's just like, yo,

2120
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 4: what the fuck we got practice?

2121
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: If I hate that, like i'd had the same time.

2122
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 4: Hey, we had to strength coach at Nebraska Willie Jones.

2123
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 4: I think he's a strength coach at Illinois now, but

2124
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 4: for he got like initiated into the strength staff with

2125
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 4: Dallson and them, and they pushed a prowler, I think

2126
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 4: a sled like maybe a thousand yards and they had

2127
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 4: to put their body weight on the sled and push

2128
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 4: it a thousand yards.

2129
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: So you pushing how.

2130
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 4: Much do you weigh seventy on a prowler and you'd

2131
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 4: have to push it a thousand yards or it was

2132
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 4: something crazy like that. But they said Willy was shaking

2133
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 4: and fucking hurting so bad he had to go puke.

2134
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 4: And while he was in the stall, he started shitting himself.

2135
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: Shit just started running down his leg. Oh my god,

2136
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm seen. We had a kid at Eastern Bro. We

2137
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: we did shit similar to that. When we would have

2138
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 1: our fucking stadium days. Bro, we had like twenty four

2139
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 1: of them or twenty two or whatever. It's a crazy

2140
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: number running all the way up the stadium. You fucking

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Speaker 1: jogged down and you're fucking hitting it, and we'd have overtime,

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Speaker 1: so we're already fucking dead.

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Speaker 2: Go overtime blah blah blah, and we're like.

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Speaker 1: No, you would have to pick up whoever is fucking you,

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01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: figure out who you team up was, you have a buddy,

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01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 1: and you have to throw them on your fucking back

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01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: and run up the stadium. Ye back down, bro, it

2148
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 1: was fucking shit getting speed wobbles like the There would

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01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: be guys like it's your group, so you got ten guys.

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01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: There'll be one fucking dude who's like a running back

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01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: and he'll get stuck with a fucking moose, three hundred.

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01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 2: Twenty pound guy and that's the car.

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01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I'm I'm not doing that because I'll

2154
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: drop your fat ass down the whole stadium like it's crazy,

2155
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: like we were, Oh my gosh, I had a roommate.

2156
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: I had a roommate, Alfonso, and he faked like passing out.

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01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: He faked the cramp because we it got to you

2158
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: were gas after this.

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01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 4: Huge uh uh what do they call it? County fair?

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01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 4: Like workout one of those county fair workouts where you

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01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 4: got like eight stations, you're doing all these drills with

2162
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 4: vest On, push your prowlers, doing the most bro, and

2163
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 4: you're destroyed at the end. And he's like, all right,

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01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 4: not overtime. But it was like, you know, it was

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01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 4: basically that's what it was. We're gonna do extra get

2166
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 4: on the line. We're gonna do jingle jangles where you

2167
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 4: just run certain ladders like five back, ten back, or

2168
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 4: ten back, fifteen back, ten back, twenty back, shit like that,

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01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 4: and you don't know when you're gonna stop.

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Speaker 2: It's like all right on the line jingle jingles.

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Speaker 4: And my roommate Fonso, he just he screamed with his

2172
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 4: high pitched voice, ah, and just literally acted like he

2173
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 4: just fainted and passed out.

2174
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 2: And they literally they sprayed him down like right there with.

2175
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 4: The cooler water and they had to pick him up,

2176
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 4: and he got picked up by like four people and

2177
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:59,679
Speaker 4: they went and just dropped him in the cold tub.

2178
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 4: They just talked. They talked up as like a full

2179
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 4: body cramp. No, but we were freshmen, like it was

2180
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 4: our first hard work out.

2181
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: We were freshmen, bro, your first couple of weeks in

2182
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 1: college of the fucking they.

2183
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 2: Try and break you.

2184
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: We had a kid when I was my sophomore year.

2185
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: There was a kid that shipped himself in the meeting.

2186
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: He was so tired and exhausted in the meeting. It

2187
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: was an whole liveman, and this dude was dying. Bro,

2188
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: he was so exhausted. We had meetings after He's literally

2189
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: crawling into the meeting room and he got up out

2190
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 1: of his chair after he was done at the meeting,

2191
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: and there was literally a ship streak in his chair. Bro.

2192
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 2: Fucking it was. It was fucked up. Bro.

2193
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 4: Did you see some ship when you're in college man,

2194
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 4: and you think that wife, and then when you're on

2195
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 4: the other side of it, you're like, you know, how

2196
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 4: ridiculous is college?

2197
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 2: What it was? Fucking oh my god the first couple

2198
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,440
Speaker 2: of weeks or just unbelievable.

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01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thanks for coming on, bro, Max Crosby Busting

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01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 4: with the Boys.

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