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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody, Welcome back, Happy Thanksgiving week, and welcome

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Speaker 3: back to our guy, Terrence Cam. We call him tk TK.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, my man?

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Speaker 1: Doing well?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving coming up? Years flying by, it's almost over.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say, I love the slick back hair you're

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Speaker 3: giving me. Jack Nicholson vibes here but like seventies Nicholson,

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Speaker 3: Like you know one flew over the Cuckoo's nest Nicholson.

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Speaker 2: You got it. You're an actor, do you have a

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Speaker 2: Nicholson impression?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: It's kind of wait till they get a load of me.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic, man, that's fantastic, really too, So that

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Speaker 3: was good. I'll give you some time to work on it,

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Speaker 3: and we'll try it again next off season and we'll

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Speaker 2: But we got something special for you this week.

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Speaker 3: We got a two part episode. So in this episode

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Speaker 3: we are going to talk a little bit about Fernando

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Speaker 3: Tastiste Junior, the sort of I don't want to say rant,

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Speaker 3: but I guess the exposition by Michael Kay that the

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Speaker 3: Yankee should go out and get tattoos. It's something we've

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Speaker 3: talked about on this channel before, but I talked about

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Speaker 3: it with Ryan Garcia, and I wanted to give Terrence

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Speaker 3: a chance. We're gonna talk about hal Steinbrenner. We had

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Speaker 3: a call last week about his legacy, and at the

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Speaker 3: guess that's not really true. You can cement a legacy

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Speaker 3: before it's done, and you know, you can change your

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Speaker 3: I kind of wanted to go through what is Hol's

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Speaker 3: we'll do the same thing for Brian Cashman. So TK,

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Speaker 3: are you ready for an action packed two part episode

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Speaker 3: and we'll tell them what episode two is about at

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Speaker 3: the end.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. I've been kind of itching to get

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Speaker 1: let's do it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's let's go ahead and start with tech

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Speaker 3: tease here. So Michael Kay basically said on his show

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Speaker 3: the other day that the Yankees should go ahead and

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Speaker 3: get Fernando tattoos or try and swing a trade. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna play a little bit of that right now. In

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Speaker 3: case you haven't heard, Now, what did the.

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Speaker 2: Eighties need this year?

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Speaker 4: We need a right hand to bat right. Fernando Tatis

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Speaker 4: is twenty six years old. He'll be twenty seven the

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Speaker 4: beginning of January, coming off a year we hit two

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Speaker 4: sixty eight twenty five home run seventy one ribies, one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty nine hits. He's a brilliant outfield. He

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Speaker 4: plays right, he could play left easily. We know that

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Speaker 4: he came up as a shortstop, so he could do

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Speaker 4: that too. At the end of twenty twenty, he signed

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Speaker 4: a fourteen year deal for three hundred and forty million

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Speaker 4: gast not anymore, you know. The average annual value of

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Speaker 3: All right, So that's that's the basics there. He is

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Speaker 3: a steal at just twenty six years old. He'll be

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Speaker 3: give me your thoughts on this proposal by Michael Kay.

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Speaker 2: Where do you land?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the Padres possibly being sold could

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Speaker 1: I'm in one hundred percent lockstep with Michael. You want

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Speaker 1: I think that the ownership situation with San Diego definitely

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Speaker 1: I think exactly what this Yankees team needs, Platinum Glove

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Speaker 1: But Yankees will have some pretty large contracts that they

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Speaker 1: But we know Stime runners in favor of that.

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Speaker 3: But I agree with you. I'm in lockstep with Michael Kay.

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Speaker 3: There was a time where I wanted no part of

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Speaker 3: you know, but I think that he's maturing as a

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Speaker 3: I mean, two sixty eight doesn't sound amazing, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: having his prime in front of him. He's twenty six

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Speaker 3: So this is a guy who would completely completely change

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Speaker 3: A Rod trade, or like when you got Gambi or Sheffield.

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Speaker 3: Like now, I know that those didn't result in like

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Speaker 3: They went out and got Stanton when he was an MVP.

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Speaker 3: Yankees fans bullied cash Men into trading for Sodo because

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Speaker 3: Fans were calling for him to get fired. He would

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Speaker 3: never have traded Michael King if they hadn't, you know,

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Speaker 3: and this would be a move in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean they signed Look, they lost Soto

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the same star power that he Well.

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Speaker 1: And as far as him, like he's had some immaturity

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Speaker 1: But I honestly, I'm looking at his numbers, I think

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Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, it's just I feel like

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Speaker 3: Available, Yeah, well, we'll see. I wouldn't count on it.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet on it, but it is a wild

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit about the man who might be able to pull

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Speaker 3: the strings to make this happen, Mister al Steinbrenner. I

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Speaker 3: can't believe he's only fifty four years old. I thought

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Speaker 3: he was like in his mid sixties from looking at him,

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Speaker 3: But he was, you know, basically my age.

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Speaker 2: When he took over the Yankees, he was in his

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Speaker 3: He has been the owner since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 3: He won the championship right away, and I feel like

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Speaker 3: he was flexing in that moment, like I'm the new owner,

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Speaker 3: Let's go out and get CC, Let's get let's get

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll start with some He spends money. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, Yeah, it's it is. It's because it's so true.

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Speaker 1: So my question is Starnbutner would be I know you

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Speaker 1: That would be my question.

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Speaker 2: So two things.

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Speaker 3: One, I like how you said think Differently, because Apple

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Speaker 3: The other thing, I agree with you all one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred pege educated.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a little bit of just a little rant

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Speaker 3: You don't you don't want as much turnover as his

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Speaker 3: dad had, George right where you're firing the manager three

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Speaker 3: I'm at on on how and and and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: Well, just the thing about the GM thing is like

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Speaker 1: I wanted to doo Epstein so badly. I think you

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Speaker 2: That's what that money on steroids exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what the Dodgers did. So I'm just kind

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Speaker 3: And you know, part of part of what the Dodgers did,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the Yankees have gotten that create

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Speaker 1: It's the Guggenheim Group. Yeah, they're they're like investors and

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Speaker 3: let's talk a little bit about Brian Cashman, fifty six

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Speaker 3: years old, GMS since Groundhog Day of nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Four time champion. He is the architect of the current roster.

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Speaker 3: Some people would call him a prospect hugger. There have

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Speaker 3: been many instances and I feel like we're gonna go

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Speaker 3: so much up and down with him, and he's so

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Speaker 3: much more visible. But he has built a steady contender.

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Speaker 3: The Yankees are in the playoffs most years, they're relevant always.

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Speaker 3: He drafted Aaron Judge. This is his best draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Three time MVP should be a four time MVP. Late

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Speaker 3: in the first round, he hired Boone, he hired Girardi.

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Speaker 3: He also fired Girardi. So, thinking about you know, what

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Speaker 3: we know about Cashman's career, like, what stands out to

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Speaker 3: you is like his Let's start with his best move

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Speaker 3: other than drafting Judge. That's the obvious one. What do

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Speaker 1: The jish Ism move was good. I don't really recall.

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Speaker 1: It's funny though with the whole prom prospect hugger thing.

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Speaker 1: It is true, but at some but it's also not

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Speaker 1: I think the most significant prospects that he's given up

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Speaker 1: at least in the last in the Judge Hear, let's

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Speaker 1: that really didn't materialize and become anything with the prospect hugging.

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Speaker 1: You don't want a prospect hug but you gotta be careful.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about Fernando Tatis. He was on the

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Speaker 1: White Sox and he got traded for James Shields. Dude, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's wild and James.

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Speaker 1: Shields was awful for the White Sox, terrible. Another one

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Speaker 2: So that was a pretty awful bet for the Guardians.

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Speaker 1: But my point being is, like I think it's important

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Speaker 1: a good move. I honestly think those traded for Bellinger,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, that was a great move. I think trading

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Speaker 1: for Soto, I mean, we didn't retain him, but and

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Speaker 1: it was a pretty obvious move, but I still think

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Speaker 1: it's it's a good move. They went to the World Series,

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Speaker 1: he was hit a great season. So you know it's

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Speaker 1: funny though, because like you asked me the good moves,

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Speaker 1: and I got more bad moves coming in my head

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Speaker 1: than good moves.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me through my favorites. It's my favorite, so

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Speaker 3: obviously the first one that comes to mind is a

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Speaker 3: little Bit before your Time, Scott Brocious for Kenny Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Rogers was awful.

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Speaker 3: Rodgers was not meant for New York, and he proved

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Speaker 3: that not only with the Yankees, but he we went

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Speaker 3: to the Mets and he walked the season away against

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Speaker 3: the Braves. Look, I think that Brocius might might be

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Speaker 3: his best trade. World Series MVP all that stuff. He

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Speaker 3: also made some clunkers. He traded Mike Lowell for Ed Yarnall,

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Speaker 3: Mike Lowell went on to become a World Series MVP.

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Speaker 3: Ed Yarnall became nothing, and I think he's called that

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Speaker 3: his his worst move ever. There was, you know, sneaking

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Speaker 3: up to sign mark to Cherah. I thought was a

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Speaker 3: savvy move coming out of nowhere. The Stanton one is

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Speaker 3: one I go back and forth on one.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was out of nowhere and it was

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Speaker 2: a surprise. It was fun and.

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget that grin. You remember the the photos

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Speaker 3: of him at the press common friends, where he just

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Speaker 3: got this grin like, look what I just did?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like it's like when you get your girl a really

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Speaker 3: good present for Christmas and you see her open it

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Speaker 3: and she's loving it or whatever, and you're just like, yep,

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Speaker 3: I did that. I feel like he felt like he

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Speaker 3: gave us a great gift in that moment. Unfortunately, like

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Speaker 3: you know, he's been injured a lot, right, but he

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Speaker 3: has also had his huge postseason moments. He was the

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Speaker 3: ALCS MVP, So that's a bit of a mixed bag.

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Speaker 3: The injuries were kind of predictable, you know, And people

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Speaker 3: might say the same thing about Anando trade, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: a guy who's had some injuries. He's twenty six. You know,

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Speaker 3: what will he look like at thirty four, thirty five,

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Speaker 3: having used steroids and having had motorcycle accidents and so forth.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But to me, it's just a mixed bag with cash Man.

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Speaker 3: I like that he will spend obviously, like he'll out

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Speaker 3: bid guys to go. You know, he'll get max free.

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Speaker 3: You know, he'll he'll make those moves.

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Speaker 2: But he also Steinbrenner, though, Well, that's true. I guess

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Speaker 2: you need you need he's a roster architect. Step. Yes,

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Speaker 2: at a certain price level, you have to go to

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Speaker 2: the owner to get approval. Right.

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Speaker 3: It's like if you're if you're buying lunch for the team,

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Speaker 3: you know Cashman. If you're like, I'm gonna get a

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Speaker 3: food truck for the guys this weekend, you don't need

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Speaker 3: to ask Steinbrenner. You can put that in the expense chart.

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Speaker 3: If you're committing him to five hundred million, four hundred million,

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Speaker 3: three hundred million, he's got to be in the room, right,

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Speaker 3: He's got to be the one that signs off on it.

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Speaker 3: So above a certain level, I think it always goes

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Speaker 3: to cash or to Steinbrener, But I feel like Cashman

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Speaker 3: wanted he was the architect to plan B right. And

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Speaker 3: you can make the case that even though we didn't

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Speaker 3: get to the World Series, this year's team was better

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Speaker 3: than twenty twenty four. I thought it was more athletic,

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Speaker 3: the pitching was better even without Garrett Cole, and they

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Speaker 3: won ninety four games. You know, if you had Garrett Cole,

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Speaker 3: you probably win the American League East. You probably win

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Speaker 3: ninety seven ninety eight games, right. So I have some

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Speaker 3: faith in cash Man. I have faith that he'll figure

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Speaker 3: out a way to make the Yankees relevant with his budget.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's got the cojones to go

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Speaker 3: out and make the big deal, to go out and

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Speaker 3: make the Nando deal, or to you know, to to

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Speaker 3: empty the farm for Paul Skeins if he becomes available,

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Speaker 3: although he did say that's one of the few times

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Speaker 3: he's spoken about a player on another team. He said that, like,

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Speaker 3: the only guy I would have traded Lombard and Jones

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Speaker 3: for was Paul Skeins. He said that, so, like, if

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Speaker 3: that offer came on the table, right, how's that not tampering?

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Speaker 2: First of all?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I think you get fined for that.

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Speaker 2: He probably did.

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Speaker 1: He probably get a fine for that. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: other players like that.

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Speaker 3: I'd like what he got pulled over by the cops,

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Speaker 3: remember that when he was and I thought he was

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Speaker 3: the seaside strangler or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Like the positive with him though, First of all, the

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Speaker 1: Chapman deal with Glabor Torres where they sipped him off

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Speaker 1: to Chicago and then he signed Chapman, so that was

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Speaker 1: that was almost like a rental like in soccer you

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Speaker 1: can rent players to other teams for money like that.

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Speaker 1: So I think that was a good move. That was

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Speaker 1: pretty savvy. And then I'll give him the gold star.

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Speaker 1: And he can always build except last year. He can

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Speaker 1: always build a bullpen out of nothing. I've seen him

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Speaker 1: like sign guys, trade guys where I'm like, who who

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Speaker 1: is this and then they come out and they're like

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Speaker 1: a lockdown seventh eighth in a guy. So I'll give

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Speaker 1: him the kudos on that one.

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Speaker 3: Our Penn had some problems this year, but it's pretty

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Speaker 3: unus not last year. But yeah, yeah, Well, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: we are going to continue this conversation. We are going

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Speaker 3: to talk about Yankees pitching. Who they might go after

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Speaker 3: in terms of starting pitching, what we can expect from

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Speaker 3: Garrett Cole coming off of Tommy John surgery in his

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Speaker 3: age thirty five season. We're going to talk about year

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Speaker 3: two of Cam Schlitzer. We're going to talk about the

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Speaker 3: Devin Williams rumors. We're going to talk about some potential

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Speaker 3: bullpen fits, you know, Edwin Diaz, Pete Fairbanks. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about all of that, and that pisode will

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Speaker 3: come out tomorrow. It's possible that moves will happen between

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Speaker 3: now and then, but you know, the studio is gonna

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Speaker 3: be under construction.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 3: I've been using the same desk for like, I guess

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Speaker 3: four years now, and it's starting to sag because I

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Speaker 3: got so many monitors on it. So I ordered I

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Speaker 3: ordered two new desks. I ordered two standing desks that

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Speaker 3: are coming tomorrow, and I'm gonna put them together. And

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Speaker 3: I'm switching from having three monitors. I got one big

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Speaker 3: forty nine inch monitor and I'm just gonna use my

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Speaker 3: iPad as like a little sidecar. So I'm setting all

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Speaker 3: that up tomorrow. Everything starts arriving tomorrow. It's gonna take

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Speaker 3: me a couple of days. Probably to take everything apart

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Speaker 3: and set everything back up so if something happens, you

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Speaker 3: might get an update from my phone or whatever. But otherwise,

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Speaker 3: enjoy tomorrow's episode with me and TK, where we talk

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Speaker 3: Yankees pitching, and we'll see you then