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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show, we're firing the Easter Bunny

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Speaker 1: and looking for a replacement. That's right, ebee, you're getting

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Speaker 1: benched and we're sending in another animal out there to

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Speaker 1: make mary with the eggs and the flowers and the

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Speaker 1: chocolates and so on. We've got three candidates on the

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Speaker 1: show today, each of whom may be able to beat

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Speaker 1: the Easter bunny at his own game. From the mountains

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Speaker 1: to the deserts to the Australian outback. Our contenders aren't bunnies,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean they can't hop a dig and

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Speaker 1: maybe even deliver you a bouquet of fresh flowers. Discover

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Speaker 1: this and more as we answer the age old question

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Speaker 1: what did rabbits ever do? To the Foundation for Rabbit

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Speaker 1: Free Australia. Joining me today to give the Easter Bunny

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Speaker 1: the boot is front of the show, co host of

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Speaker 1: Quick Question with So and Daniel and comedy writer Soren Booie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, thank you very much for having me giving

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Speaker 2: this an opportunity to kick that Easter bunny and right

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Speaker 2: in thee on this.

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Speaker 1: I put a little quack sound over it, like a

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Speaker 1: little duck quack, so you can't it's funny. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's cute.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well I'll stick with butt for now. People

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Speaker 2: hear my voice.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, look, the Easter Bunny has had a

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Speaker 1: good run. But I think we can all agree that.

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Speaker 2: It gets two goods. I would say it gets old.

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Speaker 1: You know, the nose twitching, the ears, the floppy ears,

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Speaker 1: the cottontail. It's he's like he's a one trick bunny.

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Speaker 1: He's a one trick bunny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so.

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Speaker 1: So I actually thought of this idea because when I

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Speaker 1: asked you if you wanted to guess on the show,

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Speaker 1: you were really interested in talking about the pika.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I so I grew up. I grew up

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Speaker 2: among the pika. Ah.

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Speaker 1: They raised you from a feral time.

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Speaker 2: Up in the scree of the mountains. We lived in

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Speaker 2: the tiny holes of the screen, sort.

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Speaker 1: Of like the Jungle Book, except the Alpine book. And

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Speaker 1: you learned the way of the pika. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my sheir con was sort of like

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Speaker 2: an eagle. Yeah, because that was the natural enemy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a hawk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I grew up in Colorado and from an

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Speaker 2: early age, it's you're very encouraged from an early age

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Speaker 2: to climb mountains, like your parents are like, I think

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Speaker 2: And guaranteed as soon as you get above timberline, which

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Speaker 2: just means like where that there's not enough air for

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Speaker 2: the trees to survive, then you run into these. You

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Speaker 2: run into these, you'll hear these little, tiny, adorable squeaks

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Speaker 2: up there and it's up and I don't know who's

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Speaker 2: like been up above like twelve thousand feet, but there's

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Speaker 2: like it's all rock up there. It's giant boulders and

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Speaker 2: you just like they're deep. I mean you can kind

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Speaker 2: of like if you dropped a water bottle, you could

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Speaker 2: you could lose it inside these essentially crevasses of rock. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And that's where these pika would live and they come

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Speaker 2: out and they're so territorial, but it's adorable because they're

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Speaker 2: there look like little cotton balls, essentially, the gray cotton balls.

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Speaker 2: They're so cute. They're round and they come out and

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Speaker 2: they yell at you, and they're yell is so it's

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Speaker 2: just a little squeak and it's so nice. It's like

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Speaker 2: they're they're adorable little animals. And uh, I feel like

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Speaker 2: you don't even need to do like the laying egg piece.

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Speaker 2: You could just double up. You just have this round

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Speaker 2: animal be the egg itself. Yeah, so you get like

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Speaker 2: little pikas and then you just open up the pika

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Speaker 2: and your treats are in there.

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Speaker 1: Right wait right wait, yes, okay. So to give the

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Speaker 1: listener and sample of the pika call, it is it

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Speaker 1: is astounding. So this is but a pika sounds like

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Speaker 1: just to sort of eh.

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Speaker 2: E. That's and like in pika that means you get

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Speaker 2: out of here, get out of here, get up along.

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Speaker 1: Here, Yes exactly. Yeah. So pikas have a variety of

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Speaker 1: interesting thing so we are talking about replacing the Easter bunny,

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Speaker 1: the one that looks the least like a bunny, but

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Speaker 1: it is the most related to rabbits. It is not

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Speaker 1: a rodent. It is actually in the lagomorph order, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that. I mean, they look kind of

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Speaker 2: like hamsters, are like gerbils. But then I remember somebody

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Speaker 2: telling me, no, no, no, they're more like a rabbit. And

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you don't you don't know what

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Speaker 2: This is a hamster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they do. They look like large hamsters. They're

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Speaker 1: not big. They're like a sort of you could hold

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Speaker 1: And they have these round ears. They're very fluffy, like

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Speaker 1: you said, like little little egg shaped poofballs. They don't

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Speaker 1: have a visible tail. They actually do have a tail,

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Speaker 1: but it's just buried under all of their fluff, so

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Speaker 1: you can't really see it. But even though they look

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Speaker 1: like a rodent, they are in fact much more related

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Speaker 1: to a rabbit in fact, like lagomorpha. The order it's

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Speaker 1: rabbits and pike is and that's it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I have a question for you.

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Speaker 2: Do this is? This is going to sound like a

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Speaker 2: dumb question, but but I need to know.

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Speaker 1: I'll oh, yes they do. And the way I know

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Speaker 1: this is I have been peed on by a rabbit.

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Speaker 2: Uh my, oh very scientific.

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Speaker 1: Yes. My my friend had a rabbit when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, and it not only kicked me very hard,

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Speaker 1: it also flicked a bunch of pea on me, which

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Speaker 1: I've heard is like a I guess I don't know

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Speaker 1: sometimes flick their pe as, sort of like a territorial thing.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: It I'm going to steal that. I'm letting it down what.

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Speaker 1: We can learn from rabbits. But what I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: not a dumb question, but a weird one. So why

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Speaker 2: I asked, because I so, And maybe this I don't

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Speaker 2: telling me things about them. They said that because water

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Speaker 2: in the winter when there's snow fields everywhere. But during

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Speaker 2: they do it to save water, the pika is that

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Speaker 2: they get a lot of their water from the food

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Speaker 2: that they eat, and then they like birds, they just

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Speaker 2: it's all comes out of one place, like when they

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Speaker 2: poop and pee. It's all just like one collective. It's

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Speaker 2: just like this white blop that comes out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, they do not have a kloaca

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Speaker 1: It's like the magical hole that does it all, is

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Speaker 1: what I like to call it on the show. It's

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Speaker 1: where pee, poop, eggs, and sex all happens. But with pecas, no,

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Speaker 1: they do. They do not have a but they do

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Speaker 1: I think similar to bunnies. They produce a kind of

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Speaker 1: retain their moisture. But yeah, they get they get most

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Speaker 2: From treats for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, yeah, hot out of the oven, which is there,

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Speaker 1: but so so yeah. So the the pika, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: are found in mountainous regions, often where a lot of

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Speaker 1: in the mountains of Colorado. They're also found in Asia.

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Speaker 1: The American pika is found in the mountains of western

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Speaker 1: United States and southwestern Canada, and the colored pika is

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Speaker 1: found in Alaska, the Yukon, and British Columbia. So there

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Speaker 1: are many more species though, than just the American pika

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Speaker 1: and the collared pika. There are thirty four different species

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Speaker 1: of pika, all extremely adorable. They're typically around six to

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Speaker 1: eight inches big or fifteen to twenty centimeters long, sometimes smaller,

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Speaker 1: pound at like one hundred and twenty grams. The biggest

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Speaker 1: about two hundred and fifty grams, which wow, so large.

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Speaker 1: Good job, little buddies, you did it. But they're very cute.

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Speaker 1: They have very fluffy ears, and they're adorable.

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Speaker 2: Are they? Is this one of those situations where an

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Speaker 2: animal just walks over the bearing straight and we're all like,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, a hundreds and thousand miles And that's why

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Speaker 2: it's in both these plates, in both these continents. I mean,

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Speaker 2: is this like a animal?

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Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I actually don't know that

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Speaker 1: far back in their evolutionary history. It can be surprising.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there are animals and I'm not saying this is

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Speaker 1: there's some animals that actually originated in America that end

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Speaker 1: There is some evidence to suggest that marsupials actually originated

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Speaker 1: Australia except for one, which is the possum, which is

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Speaker 1: whereas like the rest of them are in Australia. So

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Speaker 1: that could be the case with the pika. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would be talking out of my butt, which unfortunately

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Speaker 1: does not produce tasty treats like the pika's butts do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking of our bus today. We're here

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Speaker 2: for kicking butts easter bunnies.

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Speaker 1: But that's right.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if U, like, if there was like a

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Speaker 2: prehistoric I went to the tar pits recently with my

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Speaker 2: son and we looked at all the there's just yeah,

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Speaker 2: seeing all the ice age creatures, it's just everything is

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Speaker 2: similar except bigger, Like there were just animals were just bigger,

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Speaker 2: a cow and maybe a bigger And I'm just sort

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Speaker 2: of hoping that like, at some point there was a

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Speaker 2: bigger pika out there that was just like contending with

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Speaker 2: a saber to a tiger in the mountains. And then

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Speaker 2: at a certain point it got small, but its attitude

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Speaker 2: did not. It still stayed. It still continued to believe

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Speaker 2: it was a kind of creature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sloms have a kind of confidence of like I

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Speaker 1: used to be bigger. I used to be big enough

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Speaker 1: to like icha and just like see ya slowly move away.

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Speaker 1: I actually just just quickly googled it. It looks like

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Speaker 1: the fossil evidence now points towards the pike is actually

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Speaker 1: originating in Central Asia and then dispersing from there. So okay,

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Speaker 1: me see bowen nose can air wait heat? There we go.

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00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Now I'm not seeing anything about it. I'm seeing well

431
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: they've figured. Oh you still sound disappointed. I guess that's fine.

432
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: They got air conditioner ears, but not air conditioner nose.

433
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, they should talk to the kangarooret.

434
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder who like plagiarized too in that scenario,

435
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: because they do look very similar. I think it's actually

436
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: a case of convergent evolution. So I don't I think

437
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: they're not super related. I think this is just like

438
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: a convergent evolution.

439
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the nose is any judge, these things are

440
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: most close related to piglets, not like piglets.

441
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so the huge feet though, we do have

442
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: to talk about those massive kangaroo feet. They allow them

443
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: to be highly mobile in the desert. They can run

444
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: up to fifteen miles per hour, which is twenty four

445
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: kilometers an hour. Faster than I think I can run

446
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: for sure, and yeah, it's it's incredible. They can also

447
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: jump two to three feet vertically, which is almost a

448
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: meter and ten times its own body lengthwise. And so

449
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: given that they're about the size of your palm, like

450
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: some are going to be smaller, like the pigmy Dribboa

451
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: is teeny tiny, and then other the long eared dribbo

452
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: is a little bigger than the pigmy dribbo. But let's

453
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: just say generally speaking, they're about the size of your palm,

454
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: maybe five inches or twelve centimeters, so scaled to human dimensions,

455
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: the speeds and distances that they can the speeds that

456
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: they can run in the distances they can jump. So

457
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: it would be like, first of all, having feet the

458
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: length of your torso and being able to run around

459
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: two hundred miles per hour or three hundred and twenty

460
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: kilometers an hour and jump fourteen feet or twelve meters

461
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: up in the air.

462
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I want that. I like that would

463
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: be nice. Yes, And and there's no like, there's no drawbacks.

464
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be like, oh but I'm not so cute anymore, right, No,

465
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: these are way cute.

466
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're adorable. I mean the drawback I guess

467
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: is you are small and everything wants to eat you.

468
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: So you know, usually when you're running, it's not because

469
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: you're just having a fun marathon with those like tiny little,

470
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: tiny little placards that you're wearing and little other drboas

471
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: are tossing tiny cups of water in your face. It's

472
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: usually because you're running for your life.

473
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: It would be fun, though, I know marathons. Now they've

474
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: got these, they've got tails that are like three times

475
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: as long as their body. Yes, By needs such a

476
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: long tail, Katie.

477
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: It helps them balance because they're actually typically by pedals,

478
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: so they will do a hopping motion for running and

479
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: for walking, and so having that tail helps them balance

480
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: when they are hopping on two feet at these really

481
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: high speeds, because if they stumble, if they trip over

482
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: and lose their balance, that could be death for them,

483
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: because they often are chased by things like the desert fox,

484
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: which can be faster than them. But the thing that

485
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: they have going for them is their mobility, so they

486
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: can the dubo can run in a zigzag pattern and

487
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: be really really agile as they're running, so outmaneuvering their

488
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: predator can be as important as being fast.

489
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: They know, Serpentine, Yeah, it's important. That's a good one.

490
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: I saw my son plays Freeze Tag. Now he's at

491
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: an age like that's that's that's the game. That's fun.

492
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: And I see him sometimes out there playing with the

493
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: older kids on the block and he just gets he

494
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: just gets chewed up by your kids, like they know,

495
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: especially when like he's it and somebody's frozen and he's

496
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: got to catch the last kid. Like he can't do

497
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: it because the kids are they're so fast because they're

498
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, two years older, and then he's like they're

499
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: two feet taller. But I went out with him once

500
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm gonna teach you some strategies

501
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: for for when you play Freeze Tag that it is.

502
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: They're gonna help you and like you're not gonna beat

503
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: these guys with speed, so you're like, you need these

504
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: you need some moves, is what you need. And so

505
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: I went out and we worked on it, and that

506
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: was the first time that we had like practiced a

507
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: sport where he was like he just saw the tangible

508
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: benefit right away and was like, ah, you can see

509
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: the light in his I where he was like, I

510
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: want to learn more.

511
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Oh, that is so cute. Did you learn that from

512
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: your time being raised by pikas or by jerboa's It.

513
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: Was the pika, Yeah, it was so. I'll you also

514
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: need a really long tail when you're up in the mountains.

515
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: The snow leopard will tell you all about it. When

516
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: you're like hunting and on the sides of mountains, you

517
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: need all that balance you can get.

518
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So so the jerboa, by by doing

519
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: that serpentine pattern that you are teaching your son, can

520
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: out maneuver things like desert foxes, owls, and snakes, which

521
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: is it's also good for your son. I'm I think like,

522
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: aside from freeze tag, the fact that your son can

523
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: now outmaneuver a desert fox is going to be really important.

524
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: It's gonna be very helpful.

525
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: They also, the jerboahs have tufts of hair on their

526
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: feet which act like little little running shoes because they.

527
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so cute.

528
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: It's so cute because they provide some traction against the sand.

529
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: So it's like these little palm palms on their titsies

530
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's just it's so cute. It's

531
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: every adaptation that they have that for them is very serious.

532
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: Like I need these these running tufts otherwise I'm going

533
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: to be eaten viciously by a snake. Oh would you

534
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: use you cute? It's like, no, seriously, I will die

535
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: if I do not have these topuffs. I will die, Yes,

536
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: you will.

537
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: I will eat you up. I'm going to eat you up.

538
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh, poor drabbos, it must be so hard to be taken.

539
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: Seriously, hard life to carve out when you're so darn cute,

540
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: so darn cute.

541
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: The long eared Drboa actually has one of the I

542
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: think actually the largest ear to body ratio in the

543
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: animal kingdom. I think their ears are like two thirds

544
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: the length of their body. It feels like if you

545
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: like kind of tossed one like a paper airplane, that

546
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: they would just like kind of take off. I'm not

547
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: don't do that, like not do that, but it seems

548
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: like that would be what would happen.

549
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got I mean they've got huge eyes, big ears,

550
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: tiny little nose. Like the baby schema is clicking on

551
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: all cylinders with this animal.

552
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to cuddle one of the so so bad.

553
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: They actually can carry some diseases, so you don't really

554
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: want to cuddle them. That is probably not they're actually

555
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I think they're banned in the US as pets, which

556
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: is good because pet trade can be bad for animals.

557
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: But I think the reason is that they can spread.

558
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a version of monkey pox actually geesus.

559
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just not In general, it's not a

560
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: great idea to have a pet's nocturnal anyway. Yeah, yeah,

561
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be doing it. They're the cutest ones, obviously,

562
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: because they've got the biggest eyes.

563
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Biggest eze. Yeah, I mean, god, I remember having a

564
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: hamster in my room going at the wheel all night long, just.

565
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: Like now it's time to exercise.

566
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: We've talked about maybe having the Easter Pika, the Easter driboa,

567
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: both I think already like a vast improvement over the

568
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Easter buddy.

569
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: Right, hands, hands down, head and shoulders, even though they're

570
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: so small. Yeah, I mean not literally head and shoulders

571
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: over these your money, but figuratively.

572
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Because the pika is like both an egg and an

573
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: adorable creature all in one. The jerboa is, you know,

574
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: just the the kangaroo style hopping allows it to hold

575
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: a tiny basket. So you know, so you know, we've

576
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: got our non non denominational springtime Pika Festival. We've got

577
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: our jerboah Jerboa Bonanza I like to call this.

578
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we do the It's like a spring,

579
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: like the fun run in the spring. Yeah, fun run.

580
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And just like instead of eggs, like little seeds

581
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: and insects that you feel that your BoA's basket with

582
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: this sounds like such a good holiday. Uh. And so

583
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: finally I want to talk about an animal that I

584
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: truly believe in to replace the Easter bunny, and that

585
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: is the Bilby of Australia.

586
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with this animal. I'm looking at it

587
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: right now and I'm like, yeah, I don't know what

588
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: this is.

589
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: This is it is an amazing and bizarre animal. And

590
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: I think people, I mean, certainly, I do underestimate how

591
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: many ding marsupials there are, because there are a lot

592
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: of weird marsupials. So this thing looks like uh, and

593
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: it looks like some kind of weird rabbit with a

594
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: long tail and a long snoot, or maybe even some

595
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: kind of ardwork. This is in fact a marsupial. This

596
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: is Australia's Easter Bunny, the bil b It's actually a

597
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: type of bandicoot, which are you know, they are a

598
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: group of marsupials, which is I guess that is the

599
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: inspiration for Crash Bandicoot the video game. Although if you

600
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: look at an actual bandicoot and you look at Crash Bandicoot,

601
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: it's that there's not it doesn't really look like a bandicoot.

602
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, something lost in translation. I think same way Donkey

603
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: Donkey Kong is a gorilla.

604
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: They definitely don't wear Jinko jeans real bandicoot. But yeah,

605
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: so bandicoots are long snooted marsupials. They tend to have

606
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: sort of a shrew like appearance, but the bill b

607
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: has these long rabbit ears that kind of I think

608
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: elevates them to this special position of cuteness in my

609
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: humble opinion. So they have these long, thin, furry tail.

610
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: It would be mouse like this tail, except that it's

611
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: covered in fur. They have like a black stripe on

612
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: their tails, pink noses, and their bodies are overall sort

613
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: of a grayish tan color.

614
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that this animal seems to solve

615
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: a lot of the problems of the possum. Like the

616
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: possum has like some aesthetic issues in my opinion, it

617
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: really needs to work past. One is that bald tail

618
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: that it's got that like pink rat tail. It's also got.

619
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: Its ears are so like clipped to its head in

620
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: a really gross, weird way, and its nose is really

621
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: sharp and angular. And this one it still has the long,

622
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: kind of narrow nose, but it it pulls it off

623
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: a lot better. And then obviously it's got way bigger ears,

624
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: that's yeah. And then the tail it has the decency

625
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: to cover its tail in f.

626
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I appreciate that it's rude.

627
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: It's so gross.

628
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: It's a decent Honestly, I actually do love possums. There

629
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: to me to me cute, but I also think spiders

630
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: are cute, so I may have as somewhat skewed uh

631
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: skewed sense. There's actually the US alien possum, which is

632
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: super super cute. It is, I mean, it doesn't look

633
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: too much like the North American opossum, but they are.

634
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: I would definitely definitely recommend, yeah, a Google images search

635
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: of the Australian possum.

636
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, some genius has gone has gone to the like

637
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: when you first just look up the Australian possum. They've

638
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: they've put us side by side of the American possum

639
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: versus the Australian ones, so you can see both of

640
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: them side by side and be like, oh yeah, what

641
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: is clearly better here? The even like the American possum

642
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: has these like narrow evil eyes. They kind of slip

643
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: down its face like it's it's angry all the time.

644
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: Oh man, this, let's get this one. Let's trade.

645
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Now. American opossums serve a very important ecological purpose. They

646
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: do they do they they awful lot of diseases. They

647
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: eat a lot of ticks, so they prevent a lot

648
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: of lime disease.

649
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: I keep them around.

650
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, so actually, the I should say, the Australian

651
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: possum is not really related to the North American opossum.

652
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: They're both marsupial, so they're both distantly related, but just

653
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: because they're both got possum and the name, they're not

654
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: actually that closely related aside from the whole marsupial thing.

655
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: Uh So, like probably the Australian possum is like I don't.

656
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Know her, Oh no, we don't, no, no.

657
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: No, relation. Yeah, so back to.

658
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: You're thinking of the opossum. You're thinking of the opossum.

659
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: That's not me. That's very different.

660
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So back to the bill buh. The it is.

661
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: The bilbi is an objectively adorable creature. The little, the pointy,

662
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: little snowt the long ears, the fluffy tail, the large

663
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: ears that they have actually worked similarly to the giboa ears.

664
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: They help keep the bill be cool by dissipating heat,

665
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: and of course it also helps them to hear threats.

666
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: They are actually the largest of the little critters that

667
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. They're around ten to twenty inches

668
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: or thirty to fifty centimeters long. Like other marsupials, they

669
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: have a pouch. They give birth to very premature young

670
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: that look more like a gross little jelly bean or

671
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: fetus than a newborn, and they actually give birth after

672
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: only fourteen days of development. And when they give birth,

673
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: that little tiny jelly bean with like tiny stubby legs

674
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: will crawl up into the mother's pouch and latch onto

675
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: a teat. Which is it is it's hardcore that they

676
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: expect so much like of course, we expect a lot

677
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: of our kids. Maybe we push kids too much with

678
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: extracurriculars and everything. But this is like, okay, now, climb

679
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: a hairy mountain that is your mom as soon as

680
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: you're born.

681
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like marsupials have got us.

682
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: They've got us. They're a step ahead of us in

683
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: this respect that they having that pouch is so valuable

684
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: because you gestation does not need to be nearly as long. Yeah,

685
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 2: it's like kangaroos. Kangaroos are born they don't even like tadpoles. Basically,

686
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: they don't even have back legs. Essentially, like they crawl

687
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: up into the pocket and then they just hang out

688
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: in the pocket until they're enough to come out and explore.

689
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: And that's God, that's so great. I wish we had

690
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: something like that.

691
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're telling me, yeah, it is. I am

692
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: very jealous of a lot of the way that a

693
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: lot of animals have decided to deal with bearing offspring.

694
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: I think that marsupials have a great system. In fact,

695
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: the bilby has such a good system here, you know

696
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: how like kangaroo pouch is open from the top. Billby

697
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: is like to burrow a lot, both in terms of

698
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: their dens but also for searching for food because they'll

699
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: eat anything from like spiders, insects, small animal seed, fruit, fungui.

700
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: So they'll dig for a lot of their food because

701
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: they love digging so much. If they their pouch opened

702
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: up at the top as they dig, their pouch would

703
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: just fill with dirt. So if they had they would

704
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: just like bury their young alive, which would be bad.

705
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: So instead their pouch actually opens up at the other

706
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: end at the bottom, and it's I mean, like the

707
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: entrance to the pouch is very like elastic, so it's

708
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: not just like this floppy kind of purse where the

709
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: babies are just gonna fall out, So that way, when

710
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: they're digging and burrowing, none of the dirt gets into

711
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: the pouch. But it also means that if they're just

712
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: like sitting there and you look at their butts, sometimes,

713
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: like for the females, sometimes you'll just see like a

714
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: little baby face come out from like where it looks

715
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: like she just has like a fully formed like little

716
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: baby like coming out of her butt. Of course, not

717
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: coming out of the butt, it's coming out of the pouch.

718
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: But it's very funny.

719
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: I made the mistake of just searching for the bilby

720
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: pouch that I could see it, and I feel like

721
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: I should have done this with safe search on incognito window,

722
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: because it is there's like humans basically opening these pouches

723
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: up like and showing a baby inside of it is

724
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: as invasive. I'm scandalized.

725
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just just leave the Bilbie pouch alone.

726
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: Don't touch them.

727
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: Don't touch them, so uh, Bilbie's unlike bunnies are omnivores,

728
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: so you know, already cooler than the easter bunny. I

729
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: love that they eat spiders. I mean, I do love spiders,

730
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: but I also really admire animals that eat spiders because

731
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's just it's just cool, you

732
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The legs don't bother them, they

733
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: have like uh you know, there's it's like, instead of

734
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: like smoking being cool, I feel like eating spiders should

735
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: be the new cool thing.

736
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very cool in my sleep. Then, from what I.

737
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: Hear, not true, Actually that is, don't worry you don't

738
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: eat spiders in your sleep. Spiders do not want to

739
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: be eaten. Like it's the idea that we eat a

740
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: bunch of spiders in earth sleep sort of supposes that

741
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: spiders are like oh, a big wet, moist cave. Let

742
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: me go right in there.

743
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: Let's see what we got in here rubbing their little

744
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: pants together. Let's see. Oh no, oh, this is worse.

745
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 1: This is bad little caving equipment. When of those little

746
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: helmets with a light on it. But yeah, so they

747
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: can actually that that long snowt of theirs. They can

748
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: smell food underground, and they actually have a long, sticky

749
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: tongue that they can use to lap up either insects

750
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: or seeds from dug upholes in the ground. And in fact,

751
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: this method of eating means they ingest a lot of sand,

752
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: and so the sand they don't digest, it passes right

753
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: through them. So you can tell what Bilby poop is

754
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: because it's mostly sand.

755
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: Oh gross, that's a terrible existence po sand. I don't

756
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: even like one of the beat Yeah, I don't like

757
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: going to the beach because I don't like getting Like

758
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: the idea of getting sand in your mouth is horrifying. Yes,

759
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: I it's the stuff of nightmare. It's just this whole

760
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: life is that. It's just everything tastes like that grain,

761
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: that sandwich that you accidentally dropped in sand, and you're.

762
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Like, oh no, I can tell it boogiey boarding and

763
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: stuff is like when you like going to shore and

764
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: then it's just sort of like sand getting into like

765
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: it's everywhere and it's bad and I sort of don't

766
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: understand people who enjoy the beach.

767
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be two days later you'll be like sand

768
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: will just fall out of your pants and you're like

769
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 2: where was that.

770
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: You'll sneeze and like your hands are just full of sand.

771
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: But I guess they're into it, so you know, and

772
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: it's it's it's good for the environment because they're such

773
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: proficient diggers. They actually help till the soil and make

774
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: the ground more fertile for plants to grow. So hey,

775
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, good for you.

776
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: That's a good Easter bunny animal, a good replacement. It's

777
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 2: all about fertility, right.

778
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: And probably people who are listening to this from Australia

779
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: are you know, saying like uh, yeah, no, we use

780
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: the bill be sometimes as our Easter bunny. And yes,

781
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: so in Australia there is a campaign to make the

782
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Bill be the official Easter bunny. And it's really interesting

783
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: why so Chocolate Easter Bilbies have been sold for almost

784
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: thirty years in Australia with the funds going to the

785
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: Foundation for Rabbit Free Australia. So suck it bunnies.

786
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: Whoa that is a Is that a genocide? What are

787
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: we talking about here.

788
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: But bunageddon rabbit geddon Uh yeah, So why does Australia

789
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: hate rabbits? What have rabbits ever done to Australia. Well,

790
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: rabbits invaded Australia. They are an invasive species. Australia is

791
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: an island that is extremely prone to invasive species. I mean,

792
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: cane toad, cough cough, wink wink. I mean, I think

793
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm among friends, say no more. And so these invasive

794
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: species can steal habitats resources, they can hunt native species.

795
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: Of course, rabbits are not predators. However, they you know,

796
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: breed extremely prolifically and they can eat a lot, and

797
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: so they steal resources from native animals like bill bees.

798
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: And so ecologists have declared war on invasive bunnies with

799
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: the easter bilby as their mascot. And I just love

800
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: I love that this. I don't know, it's such a

801
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: vindictive use of Easter.

802
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, just see you. It's like, well, we like this

803
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 2: other animal to be our Easter bunny and I was like, Okay,

804
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: that's fine, that's good, that's really cute. Yeah, and we

805
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: would also like to kill all the ones that you're using.

806
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: That would be nice if we just didn't have to

807
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: look at them anymore.

808
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, seriously, bunnies, get out, we will murder

809
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: you all. Yeah. No, it's I mean, I understand it though,

810
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: because when you have an island like Australia and you

811
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: have a lot of endemic species, that is, species that

812
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: are only found in Australia and nowhere else in the world,

813
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: and you have an invasive species that is threatening these animals,

814
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, yeah, it is. It is a

815
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: serious problem. But yeah, I just the the aggressive, the

816
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: aggressive and angry energy of the Easter Bilby is is

817
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: incredible and I do love it.

818
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 2: It does feel like nationalism to me, but that's fine, fine,

819
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: what's fine, sing animals. We haven't no one's no one's

820
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: decided to stick a claim in the ground over that,

821
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: so have added Australia.

822
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well, I'm going to agree with you.

823
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: I think the Bilby could be a really good choice.

824
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: And already it seems like there's already momentum built behind it,

825
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: so they rabbit, and let's kill all of them. Let's

826
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: kill him here too, Let's just kill him. Let's kill

827
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: the rabbits. I think this is a great idea. That

828
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: Looney Tunes had it right. Kill the rabbit.

829
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: Elmer Fudd had it right. Uncancel Elmer Fudd. He was right.

830
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: All So before we go, would you like to play

831
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: a little game?

832
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: This is like the main reason I come, Katie. And

833
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: I was, in fact, as you're asking me what animal

834
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: I want to do this time, I was like the

835
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: castaway and I was like, no, damn it, that was

836
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: the animal last time. That This is just to make sure.

837
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: This is the game where I get to you play

838
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: an animal noise for me and I say, ah, I

839
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: know what that is, and I tell you what it

840
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: is and then the fun is over. But I look smart.

841
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: Exactly. That is what this game. The game is makes

842
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: orn seem smart. Game.

843
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: A love games like that. So I hear dog.

844
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: That is the Great North Italian nesting dog. She gets

845
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: mad at the elevator, so I know it's it's a

846
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: it's a witchcraft that I think. I think science has

847
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: gone too far with the elevator. A people mover, excuse me,

848
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: people can move themselves, So ignore the dog the dog barking,

849
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: but please do listen to this, which is last week's

850
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: mystery animal sound. And the hint was could this be

851
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: the call of a unicorn? Wow?

852
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: It was like echoey.

853
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: So do you know who is squawking or talking or roaring?

854
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: Could be any animal.

855
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so deep and resonant, and it like sounds

856
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: like it's echoing wherever it is. I'm gonna say, hippo.

857
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Speaker 1: Is that your final answer? Remember remember that show, Remember

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Speaker 1: Milan who Wants to Be a Millionaire? It's topical.

859
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Speaker 2: Oh, does sound like here's the problem I'm having. It

860
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: sounds like so many savannah animals, but also like the

861
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: echo is really throwing me. It feels like it has

862
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: to be somewhere in a canyon. Uh, I'm gonna stay

863
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: with hippo.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well you're close than that. It is an

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Speaker 1: ungulate like a hippo, but it is not a hippo.

866
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Speaker 1: It is actually the Arabian oryx so x. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: I was very shocked to hear this is what an

868
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: orc sounds like. It's just much more imposing. But the

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Speaker 1: Arabian ors is a really interesting animal and it is

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00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: it is something of a unicorn, both in terms of

871
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: its rarity and the mythology behind it. So the Arabian

872
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: ORX lives in the desert and step area of the

873
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: Arabian Peninsula, and it is a an antelope that it's not.

874
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: It's got sort of a I would say, you know,

875
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: formidable body like. It's not one of these very very

876
00:52:55,080 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: lean and sleek antelope. It's medium sized. The it's mostly

877
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: sort of this whitish color with some black markings on

878
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: its nose and legs. But the most remarkable part about

879
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: it is that it has these incredibly incredibly long horns

880
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: which are just they're very long, in pointy and frankly

881
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: menacing looking.

882
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be hard for it to stab you

883
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: with those, though, I think because they're so long, they're

884
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: right unwieldy.

885
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: It's actually both. Sometimes you'll have ungulates, you know, these

886
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: foved animals, where like only the males will have horns

887
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: or antlers, but in this case, both sexes actually have

888
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: these horns, so congratulations to them for a gender equitable society.

889
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: And they can be up to around thirty inches or

890
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: seventy five centimeters long, which is just incredible.

891
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really big. Is it just they do they

892
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: use them like goats and sheep or they just are

893
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: button heads with each other.

894
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it is used in sort of

895
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: posturing displays. They like to avoid the conflict more and

896
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: they will use them to defend their territory. But they

897
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: when they're doing sort of like conflict amongst themselves, they

898
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: often will do a display kind of thing of like hey,

899
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: check out how big my horns are. Seriously, you don't

900
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: want to deal with these. So they like to avoid

901
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: injuring each other because and they would rather sort of

902
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: just intimidate each other with like the their horns.

903
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: That checks out because it goes with the old adage

904
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: you mess with the orcs, you get the horns.

905
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the classic adage. So yeah, And these orcs

906
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: actually may have helped contribute to the unicorn myth along

907
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: with other animals because the if people saw one of

908
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: these animals with just a single horn, or maybe found

909
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: one of these, it's thought that this may have led

910
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: people to believe that there is the mythical unicorn. And

911
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: because these are actually these are horns, therese are hollow

912
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: bones that don't regrow. If an orx loses one of them,

913
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: it will never grow it back, so it will appear

914
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: like a unicorn for the rest of its life.

915
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, I know it's kind of sad, right, Yeah,

916
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't know that that even happened. I

917
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: thought all animals were like elk and deer, where it's

918
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: just like you lose them every year and then you

919
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: grow them back.

920
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's really interesting because like elk and deer,

921
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: antlers are there there's a lot of living tissue in there,

922
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: so like they and they will like near the base

923
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: of the horn and you know, they will break off

924
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: and regrown. When they regrow, they actually have this sort

925
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: of velvety skin coating on it that supplies to the

926
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: horn or the antlers as it grows. But yeah, with

927
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: these horns, they actually don't go through that cycle of regrowth.

928
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, and well you stumped me, Katie.

929
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also, like unicorns, these are very they well,

930
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: they used to be exceedingly rare. They actually went extinct

931
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: in the wild in the seventies, but there was a

932
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: reintroduction program and now they do exist in the wild

933
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: and there's about over one thousand now in the wild.

934
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: So it's an incredible great. Yes, it's amazing, such good news.

935
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: Okay, feel good story at the end.

936
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: Yep, we got we gotta have those feel good stories

937
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: on this show.

938
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, considering the Pikes won't be around in six years,

939
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: this is good. It's good at least.

940
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: Unless they up. And you've got an angry riding on

941
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: an Oryx with its mouthful of flowers.

942
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: I think you just made the next Pixar movie. Yeah

943
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: that sounds great.

944
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So onto this week's mystery animal sound. The hint

945
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: does this ring a bell? So? Who do you think

946
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: is making that sound? God?

947
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: I at first I want to say a bird, but

948
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that that's a frog. If it's a bird,

949
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be really in the weeds because I just

950
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: don't know them well enough. But I'm going to say

951
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: that that is a That is a type of frog.

952
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: What an interesting guess, well, Soren. In fact, you'll find

953
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: out next week when we will reveal the answer to

954
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: this week's mystery sound next Wednesday for the next podcast.

955
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me today to talk.

956
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: About Yeah, my pleasure, talk about.

957
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: All the better candidates for I like bunnies. I gotta

958
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: say I gotta admit I do like buddies. I do

959
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 1: not hate bunnies. I think they're great.

960
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fine, They're beIN nine, They're good.

961
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: I guess So where can people find you?

962
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Soren Underscore Ltd.

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Speaker 2: You can find my podcast called Quick Question with Soren

964
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Speaker 2: and Daniel that I do with Daniel O'Brien, and you

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Speaker 2: can find my writings now on American Dad. Go watch

966
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: the show, and.

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Speaker 1: If you think you know the answer to this week's

968
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Speaker 1: mister Animal sound, you can write to me at Creature

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Speaker 1: Futurepod at gmail dot com. I'm also on Twitter at

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