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Speaker 1: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps,

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Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross. It's gonna be a two hour preview

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Speaker 1: of the seahawks upcoming game, the home game or the

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Speaker 1: home finale, this one against the Detroit Lions. Maybe in

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Speaker 1: a field that's a little less snowy, although it's not

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Speaker 1: great out there in Seattle right now. And Dave, just

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Speaker 1: so everyone at home if you aren't streaming it sevententh

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Speaker 1: sports dot Com slash video, you look very dapper today, Wyman.

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Speaker 1: What are you up to? I just had to go

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Speaker 1: into town and tape Seahawks Saturday night. Very exciting. Not

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Speaker 1: doing it out at the Seahawks anymore. So, Yeah, to

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Speaker 1: put on a fancy tie and the whole thing. If

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Speaker 1: you look at Jake and Stacy's profile shot, I kind

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Speaker 1: of have the same outfit as Jake, kind of a

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Speaker 1: reddish tie with the blue shirt. Very death right. If

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Speaker 1: I look like Jake Keeps, I mean, that's all I need.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say like me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm also assuming here, Dave, that I just thought you

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Speaker 1: got dressed up for the huddle. It's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite times of the week, one of my favorite days.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that this was just excitement about the preview. Now,

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Speaker 1: as part of the preview, as you guys all know,

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Speaker 1: we do take a look back. So let's start with

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Speaker 1: that one. And Dave, as always, i'll start with you here. Look,

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Speaker 1: there's sometimes, like famously like a turning point to games.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you were going to look at

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Speaker 1: this game, this loss against Chicago, you'd say, oh, the

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Speaker 1: turning point was that touchdown to Jimmy Graham. But how

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Speaker 1: about before all of that, how did they get there? Dave?

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Speaker 1: What happened? Yeah? Well, and you mentioned that throw. And

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Speaker 1: here's the thing that really frustrated me about that. That's

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Speaker 1: how we should have used Jimmy Graham when he was here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, throw it up. Throw it up, man. We

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Speaker 1: talked to John Reid this week. I think we're going

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Speaker 1: to run that today. But you know, he was, he

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Speaker 1: was on Jimmy Graham. Jimmy Graham posted him up, used

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Speaker 1: his height and you know, and that was a third

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Speaker 1: and fourteen. So guys, the defense gave up first downs

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Speaker 1: you see, they were fifty percent on first downs. The

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Speaker 1: you know. So I was just, you know, filming a

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Speaker 1: thing with Steve Rabel, and he always talks about finishing,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's about you know, concentrating, and that

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Speaker 1: kind of applies to third down. You've got to finish,

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Speaker 1: You've got to make plays on third down. So I

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Speaker 1: to me is the biggest problem, because look, there were

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Speaker 1: things that were problems throughout the game, but ultimately, after

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throws that touchdown pass to Gerald Everett, they're

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are the that's the name of the game.

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Speaker 1: And I know what is being taught by Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: at that time when it comes down to, you know,

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Speaker 1: no end by Pete Carroll and this coaching staff. And

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Speaker 1: that's got to be incredibly frustrating when the fundamental principles

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Speaker 1: And you come back to the offensive side, Dave. When

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Speaker 1: offense really get going these last couple of weeks, you

428
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Speaker 1: and me both and all of us. He is John Boyle,

429
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Speaker 1: a reporter for Seahawks dot Com. He joins us every

430
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Speaker 1: week for the Huddle. Thanks so much, John, Thank you,

431
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Speaker 1: thanks for having me all right. Back to back player

432
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Speaker 1: interviews or first we'll go to Ryan Neil. We'll talk

433
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Speaker 1: to Will Disley a bit after that that we'll go

434
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Speaker 1: in the trenches with Ray Roberts. Lots of great stuff

435
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Speaker 1: coming your way. Next on the huddle. You are listening

436
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Speaker 1: to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross.

437
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Speaker 1: We're going to be joined by Ryan Neil, joined by

438
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Speaker 1: Will Disley, and then get into a couple of conversations

439
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Speaker 1: with a few Seahawks experts before we get to any

440
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 1: of that, though, both you, Dave and you Jake and

441
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: your girl have been doing our own research into this

442
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: Lions team. Dave, I'll start with you, though, let's specifically,

443
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Speaker 1: since we'll be starting with a conversation with Ryan Neil,

444
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: talk about what the Detroit Lions defense brings. I know

445
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: they're not stellar against the run. They've kind of struggled

446
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: all year long. But Dave, is there anything that stood

447
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: out to you when you were studying this team? Well,

448
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean you look at if you look at all

449
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: of their categories. You know, I've seen some timely plays

450
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: having watched you know, so they're getting off the field

451
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: in key situations and stuff, especially during this winning streak

452
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Speaker 1: that they have where they've gone two and three. I mean,

453
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Speaker 1: that's a winning stream for them. I shouldn't be making

454
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: fun of them. Uh, the combined Seahawks wins. Yeah, exactly, so,

455
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 1: but you you look at you look at their defense,

456
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Speaker 1: and they rank, you know, pretty much at the bottom

457
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Speaker 1: of almost every category. So yeah, it's it's it's a

458
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Speaker 1: defense that you should be able to. They can be had,

459
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Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's something that I think it's

460
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Speaker 1: not going to be so much about their defense as

461
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Speaker 1: it is going to be about, you know, whether or

462
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Speaker 1: not they can run the ball, establish some kind of

463
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Speaker 1: rhythm offensively. And how about this get the ball to

464
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Speaker 1: the tight ends, both of our tight ends and Everett.

465
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Speaker 1: I'll ask you guys this maybe later, but I think

466
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Speaker 1: he's been the biggest surprise by far. And um and

467
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Speaker 1: I've both of them, both him and Will distally have

468
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Speaker 1: eighty percent catch ratio. So I mean, look, that's a

469
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty nice easy throw. And I'd love to

470
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Speaker 1: see the tight ends get a little bit more involved. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: certainly would. And I think that Gerald Everett has been fantastic.

472
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but he's certainly somebody

473
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Speaker 1: that I would love to see the Seahawks bring back

474
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: next year. I think he's done enough is showing what

475
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: he's capable of doing, the mentality that he has, the

476
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: way that he approaches the game. Uh, just really love

477
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Speaker 1: him as a football player in general. But yeah, I

478
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Speaker 1: mean I think that that part of it is something

479
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: that they've got to get going. But you know, in general, guys,

480
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Speaker 1: instead for me pointing to one particular area that I

481
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Speaker 1: would love to see them, you know, highlight or get involved.

482
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Speaker 1: H it really, to me, it comes down to playing good,

483
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: clean football and making good clean decisions. And you know,

484
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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson this year, you have seen glimpses and

485
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: flashes of of what he what he we all know

486
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Speaker 1: that he is capable of doing, but we have not

487
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Speaker 1: seen it on a consistent basis for a full sixty minutes.

488
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Speaker 1: And and still you see, even amongst the good things

489
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Speaker 1: that he has done since his return coming back from

490
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: the finger injury, you still see some of those unusual,

491
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: inaccurate throws. And those are the things that you want

492
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 1: to see cleaned up through this game. And if you

493
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Speaker 1: can see that, I do believe that the Seahawks rolled

494
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Speaker 1: in this one that they handle the game pretty easily

495
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint, that they're able to move the

496
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Speaker 1: ball effectively. Now, the tough part is it's easy to

497
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: say that, and normally it's it's a no brainer, but

498
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 1: this season it hasn't been the case. And so I

499
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: think that that is a big part of this thing

500
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Speaker 1: is is, you know, continuing to take the easy completions.

501
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: Part of that being the tight ends, Dave, But the

502
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: other part of it is when you make your decisions,

503
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: being able to deliver an accurate throw, and that, to

504
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: me has been the name of the game, or at

505
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Speaker 1: least been the Achilles heel of the second half of

506
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Speaker 1: the season for Russell Wilson, for either of you. How

507
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: does chemistry that sometimes has been there get offset? Is

508
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: it sometimes injury? Is it guys missing time and not

509
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Speaker 1: working with each other? I mean, it's such a it's

510
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: such an important but I think sometimes misunderstood element of play.

511
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Speaker 1: What do you think is factored in for Seattle? Well,

512
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Speaker 1: number one, when you have guys that miss time and

513
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: come back, that's always a difficult thing. But I'm going

514
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Speaker 1: to point to one one particular play that I that

515
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Speaker 1: I highlighted earlier in the week and reacted to was

516
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: the simple third down miss to DK Metcalf on a

517
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Speaker 1: on a choice route. And the reason why I point

518
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: to that is not the inaccuracy of the throw, but

519
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: it caught Russell Wilson off guard what DK Metcalf was

520
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: going to do to try and set up the outbreaking

521
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: route and you see Russell Wilson double clutch and he's

522
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: caught off guard by what DK does. Well, that is

523
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: a new element to the offense that they haven't done before.

524
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: They haven't really implemented choice routes in Russell Wilson's ten

525
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: years here in Seattle. They finally have done that this year.

526
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Speaker 1: And these are new things that they're experiencing on the

527
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: field together for the first time, and they've got to

528
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Speaker 1: do a better job of being on the same page

529
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: so nothing catches them by surprise, and that is what's

530
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: been really surprising, especially with two very talented players that

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Speaker 1: have had a ton of success together. All Right, Dave,

532
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: hold off on your answer, because I do want to

533
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: get back to it. It's an important factor for the Seahawks.

534
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: Before that though, We're joined right now by Ryan Neil

535
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Speaker 1: of the Seattle Seahawks. Ryan, how's it going. Everything's going good.

536
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: How's it going? It's going pretty well. You guys are

537
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: going to face a Detroit Lyons team and we aren't

538
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: entirely sure who's going to be at quarterback. How do

539
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: you prep for a team, especially this year, when you

540
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: aren't quite sure who you're going to face on offense? Well,

541
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Speaker 1: you know you got your a couple of guys who

542
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: was meant in a lineup, and you know you get

543
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: information on who hasn't taken snaps in case to start

544
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: a dig go down, and you know you got the film.

545
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Speaker 1: So really you just prepare for each and every one

546
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: of them, like as a championship week. I guess you

547
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Speaker 1: know the starting quarterback, just so you can get your

548
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: mind right. You never want to approach a game feeling

549
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: a little different just because a backup quarterback is in.

550
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: Doesn't really matter. You gotta approach it all the same.

551
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna approach it like as ai haampionship opportunity. Hey, Ryan,

552
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: who stands out to you? You? You look at you

553
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: got Jared Goff kind of I know this team is

554
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: familiar with him. And then uh a mon rauh Saint Brown,

555
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: that guy looks really good. Who's who on their offense

556
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: stands out to you. Uh, definitely Saint Brown. He's a

557
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: good player, a great player for a rookie, is kind

558
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: of coming to his own this year and has become

559
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: a top guy for him. And of course you know

560
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: they're running back Deanjre Swift already has a reputation, so

561
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: look forward to that matchup. And uh, you know another

562
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: one who I don't think he's playing is there, tight

563
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: End Hockinson, who's always been a good player for him.

564
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: So you know, they had great guys, and you know

565
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: those are kind of the guys that you know, I

566
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Speaker 1: expect to see besides Hockinson, h Ryan. There's an interesting

567
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: point at this this point for you guys being an

568
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: unfamiliar territory um and Bobby talked about it yesterday about

569
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: how there's still plenty to play for. There's a lot

570
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: on the line, but uh, you know that you guys

571
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: are still playing, and there's also another aspect to this

572
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: where you guys are continuing to put together your own

573
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: resumes in terms of the film that you put out there.

574
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: You know how much of that factors in in terms

575
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: of the mindset that you have going into each and

576
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: every single week. You know, no matter whether you're in

577
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs or not, that you're still going to play hard. Well,

578
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, I think you hit it right on the head. Man.

579
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: It's just about, you know, showing who you are. And

580
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: I think times like these, this is my first rodeo

581
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: being on the team that didn't make it to the playoffs,

582
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: and really it's just about, okay, do you really love

583
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: the game like you say you do? Do you really

584
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: love playing football? Or are you gonna be one of

585
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: those guys who are gonna make business descisions and just

586
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: try to make it out. And you know the attitude

587
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: of our team is, you know, we approached everything like

588
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: we always approach it, full till ears, paying back, ready

589
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: to go, you know what I mean. And you gotta

590
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: be willing to come out hand and step out here

591
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: and put that film on because like you said, it's

592
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: your name, it's your name on the film. Is you

593
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: on that film? And an eye and the Scott doesn't lie,

594
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: And you know, in situations like these, you gotta just

595
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: put on. You love this game for a reason. You've

596
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: been playing it, as you know, since you were a kid.

597
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: So go show to people while you love it still

598
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: even though you're not gonna go any further. Hey, Ryan,

599
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: we will get back to football in just one minute,

600
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: since I don't want to waste an opportunity to talk

601
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: to you about that. But first, I'm loving this back

602
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: and forth that you and fellow Seahawk Quandre Digs have

603
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: now on the huddle, because Ryan, there's a little bit

604
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: of a disagreement here. Now. You came on with us.

605
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: We had such a fun interview with you, and you said,

606
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Quandary Digs number one trash talker on the team. He

607
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: never stops talking. This guy could be in his grave

608
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: and still wake up and pop out of the casket

609
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: and start talking. We played that sound for Quandre and

610
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: he just said, lives it's all lies. Do you have

611
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: a rebuttal? Oh? Do I gotta rebuttal? Man? And if

612
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I wish I could give him the rebuttal I want

613
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: to give. He know, Quadre know exactly what I mean.

614
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: That's exactly the type of move quand real pool, the

615
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: perfect evil villain moves. Well, you know we talked, man

616
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: do talk to her us every day. I don't want

617
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: to hear that. I just got to catch him in.

618
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: I gotta catch him in the life y'all can see it. Yeah, yeah,

619
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: you need to film. You need to get some evidence

620
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: here man, all of it. Yeah, he full of it.

621
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: He full of bit of a show. Hey. First of all,

622
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: I just want to say I love that it's still

623
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: that way. So I played, you know, probably before you

624
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: were born, Ryan, But the fact that what you put

625
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: on film is your pride full about that and it

626
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: goes around the league and your peers see that, and

627
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: not only coaches but also you know, the guys that

628
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: you play against. I love that. But I want to

629
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: make sure did you celebrate your birthday? Because it was

630
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve for everybody else, but it's your birthday. And

631
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: I've asked you before, like do you get screwed on

632
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: your birthday? Did they truly celebrate your birthday on the

633
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: twenty fourth? You know, these during days like these, these

634
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: times around. You know, I spoiled myself now, so you

635
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: know I fully enjoyed my birthday. I don't got to

636
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: depend on nobody getting me stuff. So yeah, I celebrate

637
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: about birthday. Yeah, I had a good time. Man bought

638
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: me a couple of stuff. So I'm all good now

639
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: in this day and age, that's good. Well, Ryan, I,

640
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: every time we interview who I always wish we have

641
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: more time. It's always so fun. So this will be

642
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: one of our last shows. Hopefully we can get you

643
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: back on next season though, until then, have a good

644
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: game Sunday. All right, thank you, guys, Thank you so

645
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: much for happening me. It's been fun. See ya. Thanks Ryan.

646
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: All right, Will Disley is going to join us next

647
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: on the Huddle. Don't go anywhere. You are listening to

648
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross

649
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: and guys, it feels like the theme of today is

650
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: having fun, right and that seems like a silly thing

651
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: to talk about given the Seahawks have five wins, not

652
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: a lot of fans having fun right now. It's not

653
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: fun not being in the playoffs. But when you start

654
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: talking about how to get back on the same page

655
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: and how to get back into it, Dave, you said,

656
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: one thing you're going to talk about on Wyman and

657
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Bob later today is about having fun. How you would

658
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: tell Russell Wilson just to have fun and find joy. Jake,

659
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: you said that Russell Wilson talked about finding that joy.

660
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: We just spoke with Ryan Neil who talked about wanting

661
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: to have plays on tape that he's proud of and

662
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: have some pride in his play and just have fun

663
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: out there. Is that one of the things that factors

664
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: into making sure that chemistry is right for either of you. Yeah,

665
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's uh And I love,

666
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: like I said to Ryan Neil, I love hearing him

667
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: talk about that, because that's the thing that you that

668
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: um that you want to you want to make sure everybody.

669
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: It really mattered to me what my peers thought, what

670
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL thought. And I've told this

671
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: story before, but there was a linebacker for the Giants

672
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: that came across the field and we had been watching

673
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: each other on film, and you know, he's like, hey, man,

674
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: I think you do a good job on the inside.

675
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, I've been watching you two.

676
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean that those kinds of things mean so much

677
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: to you. So, you know, people talk about, well, what

678
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: are you playing for? At this point? Obviously there's nothing

679
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: on the line. Like Ryan Neil said it perfectly, Yeah,

680
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: they're not playing for anything. There's nothing on the line.

681
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl votes have been uh, you know, already tabulated.

682
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: They're not going to make the playoffs, but you know what,

683
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you? How are you playing

684
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: when it really doesn't matter? And that's that's the thing.

685
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: I think that that should motivate guy guys. And I'm

686
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: not sure if I answered your questions. Stay, No, I

687
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: loved I love the idea of how are you playing

688
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: when it doesn't matter? Yeah? Exactly, Jake, how about you?

689
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: What do you think? Well, it's always a pride thing.

690
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean from that aspect, and that's where you know

691
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: professional football becomes professional football. Here is is that when

692
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: you're in this situation, you know, unfortunately you're not playing

693
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: for the playoffs, but you are hopefully you've built enough

694
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: of a culture that you're playing for the guys next

695
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: to you. But there's also a selfish aspect of this

696
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: where you know, as as Ryan Neil said, the eye

697
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: and the guy don't lie, and that is what you're

698
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: being evaluated on by your peer, by people that are

699
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: making personnel decisions, and ultimately how much money you end

700
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: up making in this league and how long you stick around.

701
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: And so that part of it alone should be the

702
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: motivating factor for you to play full tilt at your

703
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: very best, showing that you're a guy that you're putting

704
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: your resume together and raising your hand on the field

705
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: with your film and saying I am part of the solution.

706
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: I am part of the answer. I am not one

707
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: of the guys that you watch on film and say

708
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: we've got to move on from this guy. We can

709
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: do better. That's how we improve our team. You want

710
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: to be part of the solution. And I think for

711
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who love the Seattle Seahawks, who

712
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: love the culture here and want to continue to be

713
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: members of this team, they've got an opportunity to put

714
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: that that stamp on these final couple games here and

715
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: say that they should be a part of this run.

716
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: And that is an important factor of it. We're going

717
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: to be speaking with Will Tisley in just a couple

718
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: minutes here. Before we get Will on the line, Jake,

719
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: I'll start with you for this one, and then Dave,

720
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: I'll pop back to you because they've actually brought this up,

721
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: that idea of the tight Ends getting involved involved. Really

722
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: loved what you've seen from Everett lately, Jake, this is

723
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: something that I think we all expected to see earlier

724
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: in the season from Waldron himself. A former tight end,

725
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: former tight ends coach, Have you been surprised it's taken

726
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: a little while to get going. I mean yes and no.

727
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: There are certain aspects of it. Like I said and

728
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: described about the DK Metcalf choice routes, there's some newness

729
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: to this offense that has taken some time to work through.

730
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: And when you have a new player like Gerald Everett,

731
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: no matter how much you go through the offseason working together,

732
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be new things that you hit the field

733
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: with or you don't know how they're gonna win. In

734
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Manda Man coverage here, and when you don't get those

735
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: preseason games and those opportunities to work through that and

736
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: see it, you're doing it on the fly. And unfortunately

737
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: it has not been a smooth transition for them, and

738
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: it has taken some time. But I do believe that

739
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: you've gotten enough of a snapshot of Gerald Everett what

740
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: he brings to your team, and ultimately you know the

741
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: dynamic play that he can bring that you feel comfortable about,

742
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: you know signing him for this year, that it was

743
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: the right decision and that you're probably gonna work to

744
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: try and bring him back again this next season. So

745
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: I really like what Gerald Everett brings to the table

746
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: for this team, and I think he's a I think

747
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: he's a direct fit for the culture and attitude that

748
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll wants to have out on the field. What

749
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: have you seen from the tight ends? Well, I just again,

750
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: I feel like when you throw it to him, they

751
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: catch it, you know, I mean that's done disilely. Disilely

752
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: was the guy I thought was going to be the

753
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: number three receiver. Um, you know, and I think Freddie

754
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Swaine is very good. I just don't I'm not sure

755
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: about his upside. Uh. Not a knock on him. I

756
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: just think that that's the reality of it. Gerald Everett,

757
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: I see a tremendous upside, like he could he could

758
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: be like one of the elite tight ends, just from

759
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: what I've seen the way he plays, okay said, he

760
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: just stabs the ball out of the air and then

761
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, he's so good at not letting anybody tackle him,

762
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: and he runs great routes. I just didn't see that

763
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: from him with the with the rams. So I really

764
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: like what he brings in. Um. But yeah, with with

765
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: this who We're going to get a chance to talk

766
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: to you. He's a great blocker, and you know, maybe

767
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: a better blocker than Gerald Everett, but but you see

768
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: that Gerald wants to block. I mean, and that's half

769
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: the battle, right you know. Yeah, Jimmy Graham didn't want

770
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: to block, and they continue to use him in that

771
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: regard and I thought that was a huge mistake. So um,

772
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's uh to me, I feel like it's

773
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, not an easy throw jake to the

774
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: tight ends. But you know, typically they're running, you know,

775
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: and people forget about the tight ends for whatever reason.

776
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: It's weird how they get open. It seems like they

777
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: get open just because everybody's thinking about Tyler Lockett and

778
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and uh, and that those guys end up

779
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: finding little creases and especially Everett, Yeah, he's just been

780
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about that kid joining us right now.

781
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: Speaking of the tight ends, it's tight end Will Disley, Will,

782
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: how's it going. It's good. It's gonna be uh back

783
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: playing football game after the short little off time, but uh,

784
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be back on the air. I was, well,

785
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: we're glad to talk to you. I mean, you might

786
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: play a game. I know you didn't necessarily, but you

787
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: might play another game here in the snow. What's one

788
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: of the most I guess, uncomfortable, coldest, hottest, whatever conditions

789
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: you've ever played in. I mean I'm playing. I'm from

790
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: montanas I'm playing quite a few everywhere. I think it

791
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: was my eighth grade we did the crosstown rival between

792
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: the two middle schools and it was negative six with

793
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: windshill play. Oh yeah, it was awesome. You know what. No,

794
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: they made parents watch eighth graders that that crime right there? Yes, yes, Will,

795
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: would you have a good game? Well do you remember?

796
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: Were you good in the snow? Yeah? They moved me

797
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: to fullback because they didn't think they could throw me

798
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: the ball at tight end positions, so we just ran

799
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: fullback dive like thirty times. Yeah, hey, that's kind of

800
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: like now. No, I'm Joe King, I Will. I've been

801
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: the I've been the chairman of the get Will Disley

802
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: the ball committee. And uh yeah, you twenty five targets,

803
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: I think in twenty catches and and I mean I

804
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know, is it frustrating or are

805
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: you just like, hey, this is just the way the

806
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: offense is going. I mean, you know, I know you

807
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: you're not a complaint or anything, but I'm gonna complain

808
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: for you. I feel like they got to get you

809
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: the ball more. Well, I appreciate that I got to ally,

810
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: you know somewhere out there, but uh, you know, it's

811
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: hard I think that. You know, obviously, my mindset is

812
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: to help the team win, and you know, when you're

813
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: not being able to produce to help the team when,

814
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: I think that's you know where the frustration lies in.

815
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: And you know, we we have the few snumber plays ran,

816
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: so you can kind of look at that as why

817
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: there's not as many targets here there. But uh, you know,

818
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm just a guy who tries to help team win.

819
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we're a lot of different hats,

820
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, special teams, you know, boxing for us, walking

821
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: for Painty, balking for Chris, and then catching the ball

822
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: as well. So um, you know, when you don't get

823
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: those targets, you kind of got to lean on your

824
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: other hats that you wear and just trying to be

825
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: great at your job. And that's kind of the way

826
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: I approached the game. But um, you know, I certainly

827
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I would love to get the ball more. I think

828
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: I can help the team win, and um, you know,

829
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: be a factor down in these last two games. Now, Uh,

830
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: we'll have to ask you first. When you were out,

831
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: we were were you were you doing okay? Were you

832
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: feeling symptoms or were was was it you know, asymptomatic

833
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: and and having to do you know, your your you know,

834
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: normal standard procedure corn. Uh. Yeah, No. I did come

835
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: down with a little bit of a head cold, um,

836
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: but no lingering symptoms and they went away. Um, you know,

837
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of frustrating. I felt like I was, you know,

838
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: healthy enough to play on Sunday. Yeah, you know, and

839
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: if it was a different sickness, I certainly would have played.

840
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: But um, you know, obviously there's some severity with COVID

841
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: and um precautions that we have to take for others.

842
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: So I understand, Um you know that's kind of the rules,

843
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: and you got to bide by them. But um, you know,

844
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: it was frustrating being out and not being able to

845
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: help my team win, and um, you know, as a

846
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Montana boy, not being able to play in that snow.

847
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: So it was tough to watch on Sunday. Yeah, Well

848
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: oh I could I you know, I can only imagine.

849
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: And as you're sitting back and watching it from a

850
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: different perspective that you you know, you haven't luckily you

851
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: haven't had in quite some time. UM, you know, what

852
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: was that like for you? How hard was that to

853
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: to sit back and watch from afar rather than being

854
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: on the field and being a part of the action. Yeah,

855
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, certainly, you know my first two years, uh,

856
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, kind of being forced to sitting on the

857
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: sidelines with injury. Um, you know, I worked tremendously hard

858
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: to make sure my body is ready to go, and

859
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I've shown that the last two seasons that I've been

860
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: able to play in every game, And so that's that's

861
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: behind me, and I work really hard to keep it

862
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: behind me so I can stay as healthy as I

863
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: can to be on the field. And so when you're

864
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: forced to sit on the sidelines and not being able

865
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: to contribute, um, you know, it takes a mental toll

866
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: for sure. I think that's you know, every player wants

867
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: to play, every player wants to help team win, and

868
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, when you can't, Um, it's something that you

869
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: got to deal with. But at the same time, you know,

870
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: I had to, you know, do my role, and I

871
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: kind of knew I wasn't going to play because of

872
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: the covered protocol. So it was all about helping Colby

873
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: get ready, helping g get ready, and helping Tyler Maybury

874
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, you guys name called. So just trying to

875
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: do the little things to help everyone win. And you know,

876
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: but it was tough. You know. I wish I could

877
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: have been out there. I'm ready to unleash it this

878
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Sunday for sure, well, and fans are ready to watch you.

879
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: It'll be the final home game for the Seahawks, certainly

880
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: not the last game. You guys are still going to

881
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: take on the Cardinals. But but until then, we know

882
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: it's not the outcome of the season you guys wanted,

883
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: but we also know that you're still giving it. You're all,

884
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: you still got two more games to play, and fans

885
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: are really excited to see you back out there. This

886
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: weekend will have a good one. I'll appreciate that. Thanks, well, yeah, thanks,

887
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: all right. Coming up next an hour or two of

888
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: the huddle, We're going to talk to a couple experts here,

889
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel, Ray Roberts. Also, we got an opponent preview

890
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: with Detroit Lions reporter Danny Rogers. It's all coming your way.

891
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Next you are listening to The Huddle with Dave Wyman,

892
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Jake Keeps and Stacy Ross. We are going in the trenches.

893
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: It's how we kick off hour or two of every

894
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: episode of The Huddle with Ray Roberts. Ray, how's it going.

895
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: It's going all right, trying to deal with all this holding,

896
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: uh and the snow. You know, the Cadillac isn't a

897
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: good sled, so you get stuck in the house a lot. Hey, Ray, Well,

898
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: what's one of the worst conditions you've ever played in? Oh,

899
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: I've played in uh Green Bay and like lots of

900
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: snow and below freezing weather where I mean I came.

901
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: We came into the stadium they had to like third

902
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: to feel like several times before the game, the fans

903
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: had little shovels digging their seats out in the up

904
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: in the stands and all that kind of stuff. And uh,

905
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: it was that kind of cold where the only contact

906
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: you wanted to have was during the play because after

907
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: you didn't want want anyone patting you on the back

908
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: or anything, because it all things when that happens. And

909
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: so so it was like, hey, you run off the

910
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: sideline to go play, don't touch me. No hot fives, nothing,

911
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: We're good. Let's let me get to the bench. Yeah,

912
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 1: high five, like one of your fingers might break off,

913
00:43:51,600 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah exactly. Hey, uh go ahead. Great. You

914
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: know we've seen a little bit of a transition here

915
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: when you when a come shot Penny and you know,

916
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: seeing him hit the hole, seeing him be able to

917
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: be effective and doing so, you know, consistently for him,

918
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: and he's got he's got another great opportunity to do

919
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: that again against the Detroit Lions. But how much of

920
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: that has been the offensive line doing a really good

921
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: job in the running game, creating holes and creating lanes. Well,

922
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean during the Rams game, you could really see

923
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: the Sehaws can get to run the ball as much

924
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: as they liked. But but you can see the lanes

925
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: that were being created by the offensive line. But the

926
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: thing to me, Jake, though, is that I swear to

927
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: rush out Penny kind of energized the offensive line just

928
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: because of the way he came back and was running

929
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: hard and finishing his runs and giving up his body

930
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: and not really like planning to not get hurt, but

931
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: just you know, running through tackles and and the long runs.

932
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: And I think it really energized those guys to have

933
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: them in the in the backfill running like that. So

934
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: I think they grind a little harder, strain a little more.

935
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: It was a little bit quicker with you know, with

936
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: their with their footwork, finishing a little more, and so

937
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: sometimes it just takes a little extra of those types

938
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: of things to get those lanes created. That's interesting, you

939
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: know that, Penny. I mean, I don't know if at

940
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year anybody would have ever thought

941
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: to utter those words that you just said, you know,

942
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: energizing the offensive line and you know, and the things

943
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: I see Ray are and see find out you know

944
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: what you're seeing. But to me, number one, when he

945
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: makes contact, his feet are going now, and that was

946
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: something that wasn't happening. The other thing is he had

947
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: a seven yard run the other day where at the

948
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: end he ran a guy over and stead of stepping

949
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: out of bounds. I loved seeing that. But do you

950
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: think it was something that somebody said to him that

951
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: he clicked for him? What do you think has made

952
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: the difference, because we haven't really seen that consistently out

953
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: of him. Well, I think the one thing that was

954
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: really telling was his uh, postgame interview when he was

955
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: talking about um just rate. I don't know if it

956
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: was you know, some some of other running backs in

957
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: the in the meeting room or whatever, but but he

958
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: was saying that, you know, I forgot that I was

959
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: taught in thirty pounds, you know, like like he was

960
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: really open and honest about where he was, you know

961
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: and mentally, and so I think when he first got here,

962
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: it was like, hey, like, you gotta be some combination

963
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: of Chris Carson and Marshawn Lynch, and that really wasn't

964
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: his style. And then he started getting hurt, and then

965
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: he didn't quite you know, have an identity as a

966
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: running back. And then somehow either you know, Adrian Peterson

967
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: or Chris Carson, and you know, he talked a lot

968
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: about some of those guys, like really encouraging him and

969
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: telling him, you know, shan him what he's capable of,

970
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: and those kinds of things reminding him of who he is.

971
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: And then now it seems like he's kind of settled

972
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: into like who he is as a runner, Like he

973
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: can run with power, he can hit the whole fast

974
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: and and break through some of those arm tackles. He

975
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: can finish the run hard and uh, you know, like

976
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: like one of the first games he was back as

977
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: a play like Grits on my day, they were running

978
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: towards the locker room and he was going out of

979
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: bounds and typically he would just step out of bounce,

980
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: but he kind of threw a form into a guy

981
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: and like that kind of stuff we just didn't see

982
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: in the way he picks up blitzes and things like

983
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, you know, giving his body up to pick

984
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: up the blitz pick up and stuff like that. So

985
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: I feel like he just, uh, some plock came on

986
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: or some he was turned to someone kind of unlocked

987
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: something enough in him to remind him that this dude

988
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: had a tremendous career in college and it was a

989
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: tremendous kickoff returner, running back. He do a lot of

990
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: different things, and so now it seems like, uh, that

991
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: stuff has kind of come full circle for him. Hey, Ray,

992
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: this is feels like kind of a stupid question, but

993
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: I can't really think of anyone better to ask when

994
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about run blocking and talking about what that

995
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: can do. Um, knowing that the Seahawks might have to

996
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: be replacing three stars on the offensive line, and so

997
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: you start talking about whether your strength is pass blocking

998
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: or run blocking. Why does it sometimes feel like offensive

999
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: lines excel in one area but not the other. YEA, yeah,

1000
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I think a lot of

1001
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: times it depends on Um, you don't. You don't always

1002
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: have a really good quarterback and a really good running back.

1003
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: You know. It's like you either have a gud it

1004
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: can like sling it all over the place that you

1005
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: put more emphasis on pass blocking and things and then

1006
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: or and and not. As you know, not that you

1007
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: don't put it on run blocks as much, but you

1008
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: tend to build your offensive line around dudes that can

1009
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: pass block. Um, And it is kind of strange that

1010
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: happens sometimes. Like, but I would say when I played,

1011
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: I prided myself on there were dudes that were that

1012
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: could pass block better than me. There were dudes that

1013
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: could run block better than me, but there wasn't a

1014
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: dude that could do both equally as well. And so

1015
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: that's the kind of the way I looked at it

1016
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: for myself. Um. But but yeah, it is kind of strange.

1017
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what really calls it. Um, you know,

1018
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't because I don't think people put extra emphasis

1019
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: on whatever. I think it's just a way they build

1020
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah, makes sense, and they're going to

1021
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: have some building to do. I mean, we'll see who

1022
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: they bring back or resign. But I'm eager to u

1023
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: you know when we get you back on kind of

1024
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: as the offseason goes and we start seeing them, ad

1025
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: to to talk about what direction they might be going in.

1026
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: Until then, this has been in the trenches with Ray Roberts. Ray,

1027
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend and have fun on the pre

1028
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: and postgame show. Yea, sir, you gotta have We're going Yeah,

1029
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: thanks Ray? All right. Voice of the Seahawks Steve Rabel

1030
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: joins us next on the Huddle, Don't go anywhere. This

1031
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keebson, Stacy Ross,

1032
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: joined now by the Voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel raves,

1033
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: how's it going, Stacy? I have a bone to pick? No,

1034
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: we yes, not with you? Not you is wondering how

1035
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: many more times am I going to have to hear

1036
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: that commercial with Jake and the Chip on the windshield? Jay? Oh,

1037
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: come on, you know you're not a big fan of chip.

1038
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh my God, it one more time and I'm gonna

1039
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: have to park the car and leave it. You know

1040
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: who does that voice for Chip? That's me Rapes. Did

1041
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: you know that I'll do voices? Oh? Yeah? Is it

1042
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: really No, it's not. That'll make you hate it even more.

1043
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: The fact that Rabel that you believed it for a minute, though,

1044
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: is all I needed to make my whole day. And

1045
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: and the other thing that's bugging me, since we're on

1046
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: the subject, Dave, when we were Dave and I just

1047
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: finished doing some taping at Q thirteen here in the city.

1048
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: When you parked your car, Dave, when you came back

1049
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: to it, did you have Did you find that a

1050
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: flock of birds came by the car at some point? No,

1051
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: but I did throw some bird seed on your windshield. Okay,

1052
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: that's what That's what it was. Because my car looks

1053
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: like the surface of the moon right now. It is

1054
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: such a mess. Every bird in town found me and

1055
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: hit me. So okay, now I feel better. Thank you. Yeah,

1056
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: you're listening to airing of grievances on the huddle. Lyman's

1057
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: got your first question, Lyman, take it away, all right, Rage,

1058
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: What you know we talked a lot about you. You

1059
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: talked about finishing today on when we were taking our

1060
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks Saturday night thing. But you know, I feel like

1061
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: it's fairly easy for a bunch of especially this is

1062
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: a pretty veteran group. Carlos Dunlap, Now he knows what

1063
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: it's like to be in this situation, right, Carlos Dunlap

1064
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: coming from Cincinnati, Quandre Diggs from Detroit, Dwayne Brown from Houston.

1065
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, these guys all know what the drill is.

1066
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: And but some of these guys, like Bobby, he's never

1067
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: been in this situation. But I feel like there's enough

1068
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: veteran leadership that there's gonna be some voices in there

1069
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: talking about how important it is to win this game. Yeah,

1070
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: and again, as we talked about today, it is all

1071
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: about finishing, and it's it's whether you're thinking in terms

1072
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: of just finishing an individual play or finishing the season

1073
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: the right way. And I thought it was interesting because

1074
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: Bobby talked about it yesterday. I think somebody brought it

1075
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: up to him in a question, and you know, what

1076
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: is your sense for this team after this season? And

1077
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: he said something to the effect that, well, you know,

1078
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: you have to believe that they're going to be changes made.

1079
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: You don't go five and ten up to this point

1080
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: and not have some changes made. And he said, and

1081
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: whether I'm a part of that or not, well, you know,

1082
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: we'll see. He's been around long enough to understand that

1083
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: there are, you know, those kinds of repercussions. And still

1084
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: you have to be professional about what you do and

1085
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: go out there and play hard and make plays for

1086
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: your team, as I expect he will do for these

1087
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: next two games. But you've got to believe that there

1088
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: are guys who are kind of looking ahead and thinking, man,

1089
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: we have to do well, we have to play, we

1090
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: have to finish, because our futures may may ride on it. Yeah,

1091
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And it's it's unusual territory for them

1092
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: to be in as we've known, and it's been over

1093
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: a decade since they've as a team have kind of

1094
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: been in that situation. But Rabel, you go into this

1095
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: game against Detroit and on paper, this should be a

1096
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: no brainer the Seattle Seahawks win. But it's not that simple.

1097
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: You thought the same thing against Chicago this last week

1098
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: and they weren't able to get it done. What is

1099
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: the I guess the number one key to you for

1100
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to be able to do what they should do,

1101
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: which is win this game. Well, I would love to say,

1102
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, a finish as we talked about, but maybe

1103
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: more specifically, get out there on top and stay on top.

1104
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 1: Put your foot on the back of their next Make

1105
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: plays that you know you can make and you've made

1106
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: them in the past. And whether that means Rush connecting

1107
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: with his receivers or the offensive line you know, protecting him,

1108
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: being able to run the football. It appears that they

1109
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: found that with Rashad Penny. They have found the ability

1110
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: to run the football here, yes late in the going,

1111
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: and then the just the ability to defensively make plays

1112
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: when you have to make them, when they're in front

1113
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: of you. Somebody has to step up to make those plays.

1114
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: We talked about this a couple of weeks ago against

1115
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: the Rams. Guys, your best players have to play their

1116
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: best in these critical games. Well, here we are two

1117
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: games left. You have a chance to make the season

1118
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: a little more bearable. But your best players still have

1119
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: to go out there and make their make their best plays.

1120
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: And that starts with Russ. It starts with Pete and

1121
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and defensive coordinators making the calls, and

1122
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: then when your numbers called, you have to make the play.

1123
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: And it really is kind of simple as that execute. Hey,

1124
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: speaking of the best plays, this has less to do

1125
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: with a preview for this specific game, but more to

1126
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: do with what might happen this game, which is in

1127
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: this game, which is some crazy moments. What's for you

1128
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: personally see one of the more fun things or satisfying

1129
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: things to call. Is it a running back like Rashad

1130
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: Penny kind of breaking loose and picking up you know,

1131
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: sixty yards on a touchdown? Or is it something like

1132
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: a pick six that kind of catches you by surprise. Wow,

1133
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: That's that's interesting, Stacy, because I've asked defensive players what

1134
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: would you rather have a big sack and a forced

1135
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: fumble or a pick six? And they have to think

1136
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: about that for a bit, and as do I. Now,

1137
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to think what is the more fun call?

1138
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: Oftentimes it's that quick. It's like a pick six. It's

1139
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: like an interception or a fumble return or a touchdown

1140
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: because it's such a change kind of agent. Even if

1141
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: it's not a pick six, a big interception and a

1142
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: big return or something like that, or just just think

1143
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: about I can think back to last year the Dallas game,

1144
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: the interception by Ryan Neil in the end zone to

1145
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: end that game. Virtually, you know those plays. They don't

1146
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: come any bigger than that play. And so I guess

1147
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: anything that makes me get excited is the most fun

1148
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: play that I have to call. If it gets me

1149
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: jumping out of my chair and yelling so loud that

1150
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: Wyman can't hear himself think, then that to me has

1151
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: been a successful play. I was gonna say, you and

1152
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: Wyman both have to note so much about this team,

1153
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: but not only that you're around this team. The story

1154
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: probably matters too. When you were talking about those big plays,

1155
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I guess just not calling any pick,

1156
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: but maybe it's Quandre Diggs six, which would be a

1157
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: career high, or maybe when Jamal got his first right.

1158
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: It's like the story behind it too, Exactly when Jamal

1159
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: ripped off a couple of those big runs a couple

1160
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and scored, and you could see all

1161
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: that potential that he had, the reason why John and

1162
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: Pete drafted him four years ago, and now you finally

1163
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: get to see some of that show up and we're

1164
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: seeing it more and more each week. You just have

1165
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: to feel good for a guy like that and the

1166
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: play that he has that he has had the last

1167
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: few weeks. And on the defensive side, obviously a big

1168
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: play by Bobby you're a big interception, a big sack,

1169
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, at a crucial time. Dunlap had one, a

1170
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: couple of them this last weekend. Rahimme Green had a

1171
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: couple of them. I love those kinds of plays, and

1172
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: then the stories of the guys who maybe have struggled

1173
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: a little bit to get to that point and then

1174
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: are making the most of that opportunity. Hey, Steve, talk

1175
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: about some of your coaches, because we've got kind of

1176
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: an interesting and this is what I love about the NFL.

1177
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: You can do it so many different ways. You know,

1178
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: you look at a Vrabel in Tennessee and he's kind

1179
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: of a kind of like a player. You've got Bill

1180
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: Belichick who is, you know, stoic and doesn't doesn't show

1181
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: a lot of personality. And then you've got Dan Campbell

1182
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: who was talking about biting kneecaps and everything we talked

1183
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: today about how he's very Uh, I wonder what that

1184
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: tastes like by the way his kneecap. But but you know,

1185
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: he genuine, very genuine and he I mean, his players

1186
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: love him. But I think it's interesting how you can

1187
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: get it done a whole bunch of different ways personality wise,

1188
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: as far as coaches go. Yeah, and you know, Pete

1189
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: is a great example of that. Pete really hasn't changed now.

1190
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: He was probably somewhat different when he first started, he

1191
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: would probably agree when he first got started with as

1192
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: a head coach, that is with the Jets, and then

1193
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: his opportunity with the New England and eventually which went

1194
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: to Southern cow But he really developed his coaching philosophy

1195
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: and that is what it is for Pete Carroll, which

1196
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: makes him, I don't want to say completely unique, but

1197
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: makes him really unique among coaches that I've associated with

1198
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: over the years. A philosophy that includes players personalities and

1199
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: how to achieve the best out of a player by

1200
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, kind of letting them be who they are

1201
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: instead of trying to mold them into something you think

1202
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: they should be. And I think that's one of the

1203
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: things has made Pete unique and has made him the

1204
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: kind of guy that players want to play for. I,

1205
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: on the other hand, go back to the old school

1206
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: where I played for a guy who was a great

1207
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: person and a great personality and a fun guy to

1208
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: be around. But on the field he was all business

1209
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: and it was you know, he was just kind of

1210
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: a tough guy. He smiled sometimes but not often, and

1211
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: when he got mad, you knew it, and he demanded

1212
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: certain things. Chuck Knox, as you know, was a certain

1213
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: kind of coach. Don't tell me how rough the water is,

1214
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: just bring in the ship. And they're all different to

1215
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: a certain extent, but I think one of the things

1216
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: that they all have in common day was something that

1217
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Mike Homeran always used to talk about. The best coaches

1218
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: are great teachers, and that was what Mike was. That's

1219
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: what so many good coaches are. Excellent teachers to be

1220
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: able to relay their ideas to their players and get

1221
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: them to perform. So you have a whole lot of

1222
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: different ones and they all can be successful. And we

1223
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: have seen one of the best in the business here

1224
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: for the last decade or more. He is the voice

1225
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Steve, I know we won't

1226
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: see any playoff ground made up in this one, but

1227
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: I do hope we see some really good stories and

1228
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear your column. Don't don't disrupt

1229
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: Wyman too much. We got to get him fresh in

1230
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: next week. No, no crazy hearing loss there from you screaming.

1231
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: Okay herey, I'll do my best on that. Thanks Raves.

1232
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: Have a good one, Thanks guys. Happy new Year, don't

1233
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: don't worry, and happy new Year. And good luck cleaning

1234
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: all the bird crap off of your car. Oh my god,

1235
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: it's just disgusting. Thank you though, Thanks thanks Raves. All right, guys,

1236
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: we are going to step over enemy lines for an

1237
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: opponent preview. Detroit Lions reporter Danny Rogers joins us next

1238
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. You are listening to the huddle with

1239
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross. Joining us now

1240
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: for an opponent preview step across enemy lines is Danny Rogers,

1241
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: the reporter for the Detroit Lions Detroit at Lions dot com. Danny,

1242
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: how's it going nice, Stacy, thanks for having me. It's

1243
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: going well. Of course. We're actually really really excited to

1244
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: preview this game. It's Seattle's final home game. They have

1245
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: a chance to close out with a win and the Lions. Uh,

1246
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, they're a team that struggled, and yet they've

1247
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: still had some wins, some surprising wins thanks to some

1248
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: some good play. So so I know people are overlooking

1249
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: the Lions. So Danny tell us in advance some players

1250
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: that we should not be overlooking on this Lions team. Yeah.

1251
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's so many young players that have

1252
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: really risen up to these these really important roles because

1253
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: the Injured Reserved List has not been nice to the

1254
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions UM this season. It's it's actually crazy because

1255
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: there's this big billboard on board field and there's about

1256
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: eight or nine Detroit Lions players on it. Seven of

1257
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: them are now on IRUM. So it's it's saying the

1258
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: namesake players and the Detroit Lions that you're probably used to,

1259
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: they're on IR So you've had to see a lot

1260
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: of a player step up. And then of course you've

1261
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: got COVID that's been taking a hit. But you've got

1262
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for the rookie wide receiver

1263
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: Amra st Brown. He was thrust into that role after

1264
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: some veteran receivers had gone on IR or just didn't

1265
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: make the cut, So he is now the Rookie of

1266
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: the Month in the NFL. So you've got to look

1267
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Speaker 1: out in the receiving game for Amanras Saint Brown. Khalif

1268
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: Raymond is another name in there that can sneak some

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: touchdowns in. He's more of a veteran but is really

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Speaker 1: starting to make a name for himself here in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: And then from the running back position, I mean, you've

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01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: got to bet Jamal Williams. DeAndre Swist is supposed to

1273
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: be coming back this week. He's missed the last few

1274
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: weeks dealing with an injury, but the staff says they

1275
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: aren't going to shut him down. We'll do that after

1276
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: the season. So second year DeAndre Swist, he's looking to

1277
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: come back. And then Craig Pronold has been awesome in

1278
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: the run game for the Detroit Lions, back to back

1279
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,959
Speaker 1: one hundred plus yard games. So those are a couple

1280
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: of the big names to look out for. Covid is

1281
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: still taking a hit on this roster, but there's some

1282
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: good pieces that can definitely help these lines finish out

1283
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: strong this season, Danny, And that is one of the

1284
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: things that has stood out to me about the Detroit

1285
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: Lions is that you really look at their games and yeah,

1286
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: you could point to about maybe four or five where

1287
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: they did get blown out, But for the most part,

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01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: these are close losses. These are heartbreaking losses that the

1289
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions have had, and they've been playing hard for

1290
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. Now towards the end of the season, starting

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01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: to build some confidence. They're two and two. What has

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01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: this experience been like under Dan Campbell the first season

1293
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: and how the players have reacted to him. Yeah, I

1294
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: mean it takes a lot for for players to really

1295
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 1: bounce back and to be in this position of being

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01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: on the Detroit Lions in a rebuilt But when Dan

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01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Campbell is your coach, I mean he just he invigorates

1298
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: this team and act so much energy into them. I

1299
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: mean Week eight against the Philadelphia Eagles was the horse

1300
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: game on this stocket for the Lions. Thirty four to

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01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: six was the final they come back bounce back against

1302
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Should have won that game had it

1303
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: not been for a missed field goal and extra point,

1304
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: but they tie the Steelers. So, I mean, all of

1305
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: these games except maybe two, two or three have been

1306
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: extremely close. I mean that went over the Arizona Cardinals.

1307
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: It speaks volumes. This Lions team, no one picked them,

1308
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: they were not favored, No one had any optimism in

1309
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: that winning in the Lions winning that game. So but

1310
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: then to pull out of big win against Clift teams

1311
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: Barry's Cardinals. I mean, it just goes to show that

1312
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: these Lions do not go down without a fight. Everything

1313
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: that they embody is because of their head coach, San Cambell,

1314
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,479
Speaker 1: who if you've heard any crusters a sound bite after

1315
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: sound bite for the national media, he's always been on

1316
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 1: ESPN Sports Center a Good Morning Football as of late

1317
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: because of his personnel and he's really even keeled. So

1318
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: these players know what they're going to get every single day,

1319
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of energy, and it's a head

1320
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: coach that's going to fight for its players. Hey, out

1321
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: of curiosity, just to stay in this vein. We were

1322
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: just talking about Dan Campbell yesterday and actually when the

1323
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: news came down that Urban Meyer was fired, we were

1324
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: kind of looking at a couple programs that did have

1325
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: new coaches that were rebuilding, and it was just such

1326
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: an insane juxtaposition to look at the way that it

1327
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: seems on the outside players really fight for and play

1328
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: for Dan Campbell a team that also has two wins,

1329
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 1: whereas urban Meyer just clearly wasn't a great fit with Jacksonville.

1330
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Do you see kind of the foundations of something special

1331
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: that can be built in Detroit? Like, what have you

1332
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: seen so far as far as the direction of this franchise.

1333
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm a Michigan alue too, so safety full disclosure. What

1334
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: a scenario down in jack ball? Yeah, it's from Detroit.

1335
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: It's completely different. You have a first year head coach.

1336
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: Granted he did have some interim time four However, you

1337
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: have a first year head coach, but he has implanted

1338
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: these other coaches. I mean, you have Aaron Glenn, he

1339
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: gets his first shot as defensive coordinator. The defense has

1340
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: been lights out as of late, and they have been

1341
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: the most impacted in terms of IR in COVID. But

1342
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: every single game you have a new person stepping up

1343
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 1: and they're probably an undrafted free agent or rookie. That's

1344
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: It's just the direction is that there's a lot of

1345
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: good coaches put in place that can develop players. Here.

1346
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: You have Charles Harris, who people he just it was

1347
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: underwhelming what he had done so far. He comes into

1348
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and spends time with Aaron Glenn, one

1349
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: of the youngest, newest defensive coordinators in the league, and

1350
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: you're hearing his name again and he's having one of

1351
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: the best seasons of his entire career. So the direction is, Okay,

1352
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: get all of these young players in right now. Granted

1353
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: they probably didn't mean to play all these young players

1354
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: due to IR and COVID, but they're getting reps. They're

1355
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: getting really really good reps, and they're they're being developed.

1356
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: You're seeing it here in the latter part of the season. Um,

1357
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: these rookies and these players who haven't worked out on

1358
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: other teams come here and get developed. So that's the direction. Um,

1359
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: I knew. I know the record is not what Lions

1360
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: fans want to see, just two wins on the season, um,

1361
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: but there is some room to pick up at least

1362
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: one more, one more game going up against Seahawks maybe, Um,

1363
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: so who's having more of a down year? I know

1364
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: you guys know that. So the direction is is really

1365
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: good for this organization. Danny, we're still in denial that

1366
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are in a bad year, Okay, So you

1367
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: know we're going to live in a world where the

1368
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks are still winning, They're still in the playoff. Fune,

1369
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: We're we're we're having a hard time here accepting this

1370
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: reality right now. You're trying to be too honest, Yeah,

1371
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: making too much. I'm I'm from Detroit, so you nothing

1372
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: you say is going to make me feel bad or

1373
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, oh man, but you're you're one hundred percent right.

1374
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: And that is why I view this game as as

1375
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: a game that is going to be really close. I

1376
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: really firmly believe that. And you watch how the game

1377
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: went with Chicago, uh this last week for the Seahawks,

1378
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: they were in control for a lot of it. But um, Detroit,

1379
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: they're playing so hard right now. You could just see

1380
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: them when I watched them on film, a team that

1381
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: really believes in what they're doing right now and just

1382
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: gaining a lot of confidence to finish the season. And

1383
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: they're a team despite like the Seahawks who are having

1384
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: to learn how to play through a new situation and

1385
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: be motivated, the Detroit Lions are are playing extremely motivated.

1386
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: They've got a lot to play for these these next

1387
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: two games. Despite their record. To set up twenty twenty two,

1388
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: what have they done to be able to put themselves

1389
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: in a position to really put the rebuild process moving

1390
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: forward for Dan Hamble and this crew, and what do

1391
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: they have to do to continue to build upon what

1392
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: they did in year one. Yeah, Jake, that's a very

1393
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: timely question because to jay coordinators and assistant coaches, we're

1394
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: getting the free agent question, like what is it going

1395
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: to take to bring mis free agent back? Or would

1396
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: you like to see this guy in twenty twenty two.

1397
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: So these are two big games, although the Lions only

1398
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: have two wins and they're not in the playoff hunt,

1399
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: but it shows these free agents who have the opportunity

1400
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: to go out and pick another team that hey, Detroit

1401
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: is building something here and it's really good. The culture

1402
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: is awesome. The coaches on the staff. Someone our our

1403
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: PR guy Greg extraordinaireor tweeted out Madden a Madden picture yesterday.

1404
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: Seven of our coaches we're in Madden oh six. So

1405
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot of former players, so they know how

1406
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: to coach these players, these current players currently. So you

1407
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: have some really good young coaches who are going to

1408
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: give it. They're all a lot of them are going

1409
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: to go on to coordinating positions, so they have to

1410
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: give this job everything they've got. So Detroit really is

1411
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: making a good case for free agents that despite the record,

1412
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: the rebuild process is in motion that Detroit Lions they

1413
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: can develop talent, which hasn't happened necessarily to a great

1414
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: extent over the last few years. So the case is

1415
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: being made if they can get one or two wins

1416
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: here to close up the season. Of course, Lions will

1417
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: end the season in four field against the Green Bay Packers.

1418
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: There have been talks of some more retor players getting

1419
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: getting some reps, so that'll be interesting to see. I

1420
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: know Screenby's still playing for their seeding. So to end

1421
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: the season on a high note, like this team has

1422
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: not given up even a single out during this entire season,

1423
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: it means a lot in twenty twenty two in terms

1424
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: of bringing back the free agents. But you also have

1425
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: the undrafted free agents who are here in Detroits doing

1426
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: incredibly well, like Craig Reynolds who assigned through twenty twenty two.

1427
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: So you're already building some really great some blocks and

1428
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of the whole stacking the brick by brick

1429
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: mantra on a daily basis. So it's just a really

1430
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: good direction the foundation is there. The Lions are showing

1431
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: that they can give undrafted three agents a shot, that

1432
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: they can develop them, and then the rookie work. I'm

1433
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,879
Speaker 1: in Ross and Brown like, hey, you should be excited

1434
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: when you get drafted to Detroit because you're going to

1435
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: get developed barring no injuries. So a really good foundation

1436
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two has certainly been set. She is

1437
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: Danny Rogers, the Detroit Lions reporter. Danny, I'd tell you

1438
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: to be careful of the snow when you get here

1439
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: in Seattle, but I think you guys are a little

1440
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: more familiar with it out there in Detroit, so otherwise,

1441
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: we'll see you here in Seattle. Danny, Yep, getting some

1442
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: snow as we speak. I appreciate it. Safety and day.

1443
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Sharon, our final thoughts from today.

1444
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: It's coming your way next on the huddle. This is

1445
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Woman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross

1446
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: and guys. Before I ask you what stands out out

1447
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: about the Detroit Lions the Seahawks next opponent, I need

1448
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: to put both of you on blast for disrespecting me

1449
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: during the break and doubting my ability if there was

1450
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: a contest between the three of us to see who

1451
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: could bring in the most grocery bags from the car

1452
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: to the house. All bags are plastic. I think I

1453
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: could bring in the most. What makes you think that?

1454
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: I just I feel like you guys are underestimating the

1455
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: strength in the fact that I am closest to the

1456
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 1: ground and have the least gravitational pull on the bags

1457
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: with hand size arm length. Yes, yeah, I don't know.

1458
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: I think over carried twenty bags. Will and determination, Stacy,

1459
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: I've heard you complain about, you know, colds or little

1460
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: alleys that you've had, and I don't think you have

1461
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 1: the sheer will and determination from the car into the

1462
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: kitchen to match what Dave and I could do. I

1463
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: just I have a hard time believing me. I'll show

1464
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: both of you Sea Rode with the big burly beard

1465
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: and Jake and myself. You're not in a conversation, and

1466
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: remember that picture of Jake at University of Miami sledge hammer. Yeah,

1467
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. We'll have to test this theory

1468
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: one day. Well, Dave, I'll start with you for this

1469
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: one one thing that stood out looking at this Lions

1470
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,520
Speaker 1: team when you talk about the Seahawks matchup this Sunday. Yeah,

1471
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: this Monross Saint Brown guy. I really like he was

1472
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder or a third rounder out of USC

1473
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: and he kind of exemplifies the sort of I don't know,

1474
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: they're they're obstinate this team, like they they want to

1475
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: go out and look at the two wins coming late

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01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: in the season. But you look at the way that

1477
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: he plays. He's got a little bit of an attitude.

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01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 1: You know, he blocks hard. He's one of those guys

1479
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: that you know, it's not going to be taken down.

1480
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: And if he gets a defender who you know, grabs

1481
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: him and push him, pushes him out of bounds, he's

1482
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: going to rip his you know, arm away from him.

1483
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: He's just one of those nasty players that I appreciate.

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I've been on these

1485
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: kinds of teams before and you're angry, you know, you're

1486
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: you're mad, you want to and that's the way that

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01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: you play. So he kind of he kind of exemplifies that.

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01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Also, I'm looking at the

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: website Detroit Lion website, So Dan Quinn, if you go

1490
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff and you guys should go look

1491
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: at his picture and his tie is totally crooked. He

1492
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: put a tie on, but it's it's crooked in his profile.

1493
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: But you know, you were talking to the reporter there

1494
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,879
Speaker 1: in Detroit. They have Mark Brunell, Anthony Lynn, Douce Staley,

1495
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: a guy named Hank Freeley who played in the league,

1496
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: Antoine Randall Ell on defense, I got Aaron Glenn, a

1497
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: guy named Kelvin Shepherd. So they got a lot of

1498
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: X players that you know, have been through these kinds

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: of things. And so yeah, what did she say? There

1500
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: was like seven coaches or six coaches on the O

1501
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: six Madden video game or something like that. Yeah, yeah,

1502
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: this is a this is a scrappy team. They're gonna

1503
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: come in here with an attitude and they're gonna come

1504
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: in here and thinking, you know, and which is interesting

1505
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: because you know, you think I almost asked this guy yesterday,

1506
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: like do you guys expect to win when you come

1507
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: in here? Because it was a reporter from Detroit. I'm like,

1508
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: of course they do. Of course they do. Many they

1509
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: got two wins and a tie and they're coming in

1510
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: here and playing a team that's five wins. It's just

1511
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. It just kind of brings you back

1512
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: to what did you think at the beginning of the year.

1513
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: I think my prediction was like thirteen and four. Two

1514
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: things why I'm in First of all, the receiver you

1515
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: were talking about, Saint Brown, he was a fourth rounder,

1516
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: you were right. And also, yes, Dan Campbell having a

1517
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: crooked tie and this photo feels very on brand and

1518
01:15:54,160 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: here I am absolutely here you can. We've been talking

1519
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: about a couple of things today, either what you've seen

1520
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: from Detroit at what stands out outside of obviously the

1521
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: playing experience of their coaches. Really great white receiver that

1522
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: that Wyman talked about, or you could, um, you could

1523
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: look at too like what the seatoks playing for in

1524
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, there's no doubt one of the cool things,

1525
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: you know. As as Wyman mentioned about the coaching staff

1526
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 1: that they've collected with Dan Campbell, it was a conscious

1527
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: decision by him to show that, hey, former players they

1528
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: can coach. And I think that that's also an experiment

1529
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: that they are going through right now, that they can

1530
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: put a collective staff together of former players. Um. And

1531
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for them because I think it would open

1532
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: the door for a lot of those guys that are

1533
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: looking to get into coaching UM and represent UM. You know,

1534
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: those those players that have played and that they can

1535
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: get it done on the other side of it too,

1536
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: if if that's what they want to do. But um,

1537
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: in terms of the matchup in the game, Uh, you know,

1538
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to come back to, you know, things that

1539
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: I really think have to get done. One, a good

1540
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: clean football game for Russell Wilson from start to finish.

1541
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: Number two Rashad Penny in the running game, continuing to excel,

1542
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: continuing to build off of a performance that they had

1543
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: list last week against Chicago and then finally Detroit. When

1544
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: they want to come in here and establish that physical play,

1545
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: they're going to do it through the run game and

1546
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: winning the line of scrimmage is going to be key.

1547
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: And if you can do those three things, if those

1548
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: three things can be accomplished, you're going to win the

1549
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: time of possession battle, which is ultimately going to help

1550
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: you win the game. And it's going to allow you

1551
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: to control the game from start to finish. And that's

1552
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: ultimately what you want to see because why because they're

1553
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: capable of it. And that's what's been so frustrating and

1554
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: as We've talked through all these things. That's why this

1555
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: season has been so incredibly difficult and frustrating is because

1556
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: they are capable of doing so much more and producing

1557
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: at a higher level, and they have fallen short of expectations.

1558
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, guys, but I don't

1559
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: know if I can handle watching this team lose to

1560
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: Detroit and be two and six at home to finish

1561
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: the year. It's just high. Yeah, I'll be besides beside myself,

1562
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: I hate the sound of that. I know we all do,

1563
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: and I you know, my final thought is going to

1564
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: be echoing you guys, which is a that there are

1565
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 1: a couple of players on this team you got to

1566
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: keep an eye out for h and they're they're more

1567
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: than just the record. And two that maybe the key

1568
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: is looking at how the Lions might be playing right now,

1569
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: which is you might be losing, but if you're playing,

1570
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: if you're playing the game thinking that you're playing towards

1571
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: something and you're building up, it's probably a lot mentally

1572
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: emotionally easier than playing in a losing season thinking that

1573
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: you're losing something or you're heading towards something bad. So

1574
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: I can only imagine Detroit is looking at their road

1575
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 1: as moving up. I would imagine the Seahawks have to

1576
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: challenge their mindset to do the same and we'll see

1577
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: what this what this game brings, It should be a

1578
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: good one. Have some snow out there. Wyman will be

1579
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: on the call along with rabes And and Jake and

1580
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: I will be back on Monday to break this down.

1581
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: Until then, you guys, don't forget this game between the

1582
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: Lions and the Seahawks going to be at Luminfield. Everyone's

1583
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: stays safe, stay warm. We'll talk to you next week.