1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. So off, Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show. 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Mark Jackson, Who's a bigger breakout star than Jamal Murray? 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Would you say that, Devin book who you know you're 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: already given him? Superstar him? Or where be a breakout saw? 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: He didn't he score seventy points in a game. I 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: thought we were gonna be friends. No, no, no no, we're 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: always friends. But this is how friends act. I just 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: slapped the floor, Mark. I'm ready to play some defense here. 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm not used to that for new movie. NBA Playoff 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: round to the Celtics two games to none on the Raptors. Surprised. Yeah, actually, 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: I really am. I really thought that Serge Ibaka Marcus 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: a former Defensive Player of the Year. These guys are champions. 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: I didn't think that they would be outplayed by Robert 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Williams and Tie or even Grant Williams for that matter. 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: And the Celtic beings have really done a great job. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long stories for Toronto Broadcasting from 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: the Mercedes Man. This is Dan Patchreck. Welcome to the 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: program already in progress. It's our two on this Thursday. 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Dan and the Dannets Dan Patrick Show. The Brooklyn Nets 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: have a new head basketball coach. It's not Greg Popovich, 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: but it's another Hall of famer, Steve Nash, the former 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: point guard, is taking over the Brooklyn Nets. I don't 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: think anybody saw this one coming because we were starting 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: to hear candidates and I was thinking jacque Vaughan, the 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: way they played in the bubble was probably going to 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: earn that job, or a hat earned that job. They 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 1: flirted with Greg Popovich, and your consolation prize is Steve 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Nash made a big splash here in the bubble. Absolutely 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: all right, welcome to the program. If you'd like get 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: in touch, you can donald us up. You can also 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: email and tweets. You can watch on Peacock and listen 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: on the great radio affiliates we have around the country. 34 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: In numbering three hundred and sixty two, I promised an 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: update on the Big Ten whether or not they're going 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: to be playing football. It's been quiet. We've reached out 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: to athletic directors, presidents, coaches, the conference, the commissioner, and 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: everybody is on lockdown right now. If you're not playing football, 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: you would think these coaches would probably want to talk about, hey, 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: the spring, or maybe they're recruiting, whatever it might be. 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Are they practicing We couldn't even get a comment back 42 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: from the Big Ten about the number of schools practicing football. 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: So something's going on here. I don't know if we're 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: going to get to judgment day where we actually have 45 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: a decision, another vote by the presidents. So I reached 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: out to my source and I said, kind of quiet 47 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten question mark, And my source said 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: they are very divided presidents, athletic directors, coaches, plus big 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: splits philosophically between schools. You're going to have a couple 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: of schools from what I'm told, Northwestern Illinois. Northwestern won't 51 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: be playing, Illinois probably won't be playing. I don't know 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: what happens with Rutgers probably not playing. And then is 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: Maryland going to play? Is there going to be a revote? 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: How many teams can constitute a Big Ten schedule here? 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Where are you going to play? Are you going to 56 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: play after Thanksgiving? And I was told October tenth. If 57 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: they got in and started playing on that Saturday, then 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: they could qualify for the Final four. And maybe you 59 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: get one of your teams in there like Ohio State 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: or Wisconsin playing for the national championship. That is the goal. 61 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: But right now, everything is quiet, and we reached out 62 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: to all the coaches. I think the only school we 63 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: heard back from was Michigan and they said that coach 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Harbaugh was taking a pounce right now. Some of the 65 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: other schools didn't even respond. I'm assuming quiet is a 66 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: good thing, assuming that it might be dangerous to assume 67 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: that with the Big Ten, because I don't think the 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Big Ten knew what it was doing and may not 69 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: know what it's doing right now because there are pressures 70 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: from all different angles here. But I do think quiet 71 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: might be a good thing as they're trying to keep 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: everything in house make a decision because before from what 73 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: I was told, the coaches and athletic directors didn't know 74 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: that the presidents were going to be unofficially voting to 75 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: not play. They were blindsided. And two coaches who listened 76 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: to the show. One watches the show and said, that's 77 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: how I found out. You came on that Monday morning 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: and said we're not going to be playing, And I went, well, 79 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: that's news to me. Called my athletic director and he said, 80 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: that's news. To me, and then they called the president 81 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: and then they found out it wasn't news to the 82 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: president there. But that's what's going on right now with 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Any updates once again, I'll make sure 84 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: that I provide them eight seven seven three D P 85 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: show mail address DP at dan Patrick dot com twitterhead 86 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: to a DP show. He'd go up two. Well on 87 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Rockets close out the Thunder, the Rockets 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: get the Lakers starting Friday night. Nuggets Clippers Game one, Tonight, 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Raptors Celtics Game three. Tampa Bay signs Leonard Fournette. Doesn't 90 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: even have to leave the state. You can't say Tom 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Brady doesn't have weapons because he's got a couple of 92 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: running backs Fournette and Ronald Jones. He's got three tight ends, 93 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and he's got a couple of Marque Wide receivers. The 94 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: only thing he doesn't have is a quality offensive line. 95 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: But he does have weapons. And now you bring in 96 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. I think the Patriots were involved in this. 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: There were probably three or four teams that were looking 98 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: to bring in Leonard Fournette because you're not going to 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: be paying that signing bonus and you can get a 100 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: quality running back. I mean, that's a guy who rushed 101 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: for what eleven hundred yards? He's catching the ball out 102 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: of the backfield. Now there's no risk, you know, as 103 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: long as he wants to play, and that's you got 104 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: to get him motivated to get another contract, that would 105 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: you know? So I understand, you know, Patriots want to 106 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: bring him in if you have him with Cam Newton 107 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're this you know, power team. 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: I get it. And now Tom Brady has another weapon 109 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: there in Tampa. So Leonard Fournette going to the Tampa 110 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers poll question mclovin from the first hour, Okay, 111 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: we actually did not put one up yet because I 112 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: want to narrow it that. Okay, we were talking about 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: whether makeup call is a good thing. Okay, let me 114 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: let me just give you my opinion from the first hour. 115 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have called either one of those fouls in 116 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: the heat Bucks game, Chris Middleton shot and Jimmy Butler shot. 117 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: I would not. I thought it was really really really 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: really really close, touchy. I didn't think anything was really blatant. 119 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: So that's why I said it felt like the call 120 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: on Jimmy Butler is a makeup call because you know, 121 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: you called Gore and Droggage for kind of invading this 122 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: space at Chris Middleton. He got to shoot three free throws, 123 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: so that's why we brought up. Is a makeup call 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: a good thing? And I guess it's got to be 125 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: game by game because I don't always agree in a 126 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: makeup call. But in this situation, they shouldn't have called 127 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: the foul on Draga, and then they shouldn't have called 128 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the foul on the Greek freak. So I don't know 129 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: if it's a makeup call. I'm curious how the NBA, 130 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: because they always grade the last two minutes of the games. 131 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious what that report looks like later on today. Yes, 132 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: we love. I saw a game a week ago where 133 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: they called six penalties on picks at the top of 134 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: the key where a guy fought through a pick. They 135 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: just blew the whistle again and again and again. NBA 136 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: officials drive me nuts. They called tiki tack stuff all 137 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: over the place. Well they did last night. Those those 138 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: were tikie tack. In my opinion, I would have just 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: played on. You know, no call play on? Would the 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: game revert back? To the eighties if you were let 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: everybody play though, is it just in control the physicality. Well, 142 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: you can't put your hands on people like you did 143 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: in the eighties. I mean I could rough you up 144 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: in the eighties, even the nineties, they're not allowing you 145 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: to do that. This is just I wouldn't have called 146 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: those I have to give you the I have to 147 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: give the defender the benefit of the doubt as well, 148 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: and they don't do that in that situation. Yeah, but 149 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: if you last night during the foul on Middleton, right, 150 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and Doris Burke is like, absolutely not, no way, is 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: that a foul. They bring on the rules official who 152 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: says yes, it is a foul. Then Jabby Then I 153 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: forget who is doing the game with. Doris's like, no, 154 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I think that is a foul. 155 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: If you look, I think this chest slightly moves in, 156 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: which would cut Really the chest slightly moves in and 157 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: that's going to be a foul, and I like, that's ridiculous. 158 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: And the official doesn't get the benefit of the replay 159 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: like the announcers do. They're calling something. Are they going, oh, yeah, 160 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: it looks like he kind of leaned in, or hey, 161 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: touched him after the shot went up, or Is chest went, 162 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't like games that come down 163 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: to that. If it's blatant, if it's egregious, then absolutely 164 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: call it. But there are times when you go that 165 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: certainly looked like a foul and nothing's called, or that 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: was a foul, and you're gonna call that, And I 167 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: know that we were very selective. We'll go at that 168 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: time of the game and I'm not even talking about that. 169 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: If that had been in the first quarter, you know, 170 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: you wouldn't know the magnitude of it, but you would say, 171 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: oh wow, I don't know if I'd call that. And 172 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: even Chris Middleton's jumper with gore and draggag. You got 173 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: to let the shooter come down, but the shooter goes 174 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: into your space, why don't you get that benefit of 175 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: the doubt there? And that was my only problem with 176 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: that last night. But the bigger issue is the Milwaukee 177 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Bucks have better find some mental toughness here because the 178 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: Miami Heat seemed to be quicker and smarter with a 179 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: better game plan. And I've got to have the great 180 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: freak play forty minutes at least, and the Heat had 181 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: the Bucks. The entire game allowed him to come back 182 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: and certainly made it interesting. The Rockets over the thunder 183 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: and they advance. I'm always fascinated with the Rockets, and 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if the Rockets had lost last night. We 185 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: had Chris Mannox on Sports Illustrated. He's in the bubble 186 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: and what happens. Writers will write columns sometimes they just 187 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: want to. They have a set up here, they have 188 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: almost like a form that they'll go, okay if the 189 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Rockets lose, So you've got you sort of create the 190 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: framework of what if. I remember talking to Dan Shaughnessy 191 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: of the Boston Globe years ago, and I said, how 192 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: many articles have you written related to Boston sports that 193 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: you had to rewrite during the game? And he started 194 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: rattling off all of these games, like the Patriots were 195 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: down twenty eight to three. You're writing your column, if 196 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: not basically in your head you're writing, You're like, Wow, 197 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: they're gonna get blown out here by the Atlanta Falcons. 198 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: Or what happened with the Boston Red Socks against the 199 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Yankees when they were going to be swept and then 200 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden came back to win. But I 201 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: would loved for columnists on columns you didn't publish. I 202 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: would just love to know that, like Bill Plashby with 203 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: the La Times or Woody Page Denver Post. I would 204 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: think it would be fascinating just to see what you 205 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: see or what you think is going to happen and 206 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: then publish those. Let us see what you were going 207 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: to write about a certain situation. All right, Uh, you 208 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: want to keep the poll question by way? I want 209 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: to say that shaunis he might have wanted to rewrite 210 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: some of those Brady has done columns. Wow ou oh, 211 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: come on, don't everybody makes fun to shaunas and boss say, okay, 212 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: but he's great. Moving on, who most needs playoff success? Uh? 213 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Jannis who you mentioned? James Harden? Those are the two 214 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: NBA guys. Lamar Jackson's getting that tag and he's very 215 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: very young for it, but he hasn't wonted his two 216 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: playoff I don't think he's won a game in the 217 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: two playoff appearances. And then Mike Trott and baseball, and 218 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: is Clayton Kershaw is still on that list for baseball? 219 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. Yeah, he's had a little more success, 220 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: but he still got a gig any other athletes that 221 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: jump jump to mine. I'm sure this audience will remind 222 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: us of a couple athletes we may have left out. Uh, Jannis, 223 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: you know last year, Okay, this year, I gotta have 224 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: to you can't bow out in the second round, can't harden. 225 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: I just don't expect anything out of it. Like I 226 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: don't go, boy, he's got to win a title. I 227 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: just think that they're they're they're built to be fascinating, 228 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: but also to flame out. I don't there's no there's 229 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: no consistency in what they do, and you have to 230 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: do it for times in a series, and then four 231 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: times in the next series, and then the quality of 232 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: play and then you go into finals Western Conference of 233 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Mike Trout, I don't know. It's hard 234 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: to not make the postseason. Now, let's get back into 235 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: the postseason. I'm not even asking him go deep. But 236 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: I put more of that on a pitcher than I 237 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: do a hitter, because a pitcher can control a whole 238 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: lot more than a hitter can. I can walk Mike Trout, 239 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: he won't beat me, but a pitcher that's different. Lamar, 240 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: this is a big year. This will be like if 241 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: they go thirteen and three, twelve and four. We're gonna 242 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: look at them again and go, Okay, now, let's see 243 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: you win a postseason game. And you don't know if 244 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is sort of a James Harden like that. 245 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: He's just fascinating to watch. He's great at what he does. 246 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: But when you need to win a game, when you 247 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: need to put up points, when you need to put 248 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: a ball on a number, can you do those things? Now? 249 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: He's still really young. Harden's been around, so I Harden's 250 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: window of opportunity has probably passed. Lamar Jackson still has 251 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: that opportunity. Talented team, great coach with him, and he's 252 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: a wonderful talent. Yes, point, it's really Kershaw and the Dodgers. 253 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: The Dodgers have finished first in the West. This will 254 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: be their eighth straight season. Yeah, and they're even this 255 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: is their best year as far as regular season. They're 256 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: they're going to double up their opponents and run scored. 257 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: That's never been done in the history of baseball. They've 258 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: outscored their opponents Dodgers this year by ninety four runs. 259 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: No one else in Baseball's over fifty five runs. Kyle 260 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: in California, joins us, Hey, Kyle, what do you have 261 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: for me today? But I've got an interesting be honestly here. 262 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: You know it's at Jefferson talking about is he a 263 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Pippin you know to somebody's Jordan. I don't know about 264 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: that going so far? But can your best guy and 265 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: he's the best guy by far. You a guy who's 266 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: so won demensia. I mean we the game plan that 267 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the last couple of years built the wall. Don't let 268 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: him get into the paint. He can't shoot free throws. 269 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: He can't shooting your best guy air balls, free throws. 270 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean he's the MVP. Come on, I get the 271 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: game plan there, Thank you, Kyle, But he does you 272 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: know you got brook Lopez. Brook Lopez has, you know, 273 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: resuscitated his career and become a great three point shooter. 274 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Chris Middleton All Star, third Team All NBA. I believe 275 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, Eric Bledsoe giveth and taketh away. I don't 276 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: think it's a great team, but I do think he's 277 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: a great player. I just think he's got to come 278 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: up with his signature move when all else fails, because 279 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: his signature move is basically going straight ahead. Usually in transition, 280 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: and if you can prevent them from getting out and 281 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: running and getting in transition, make them a half court team. 282 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: And this is what happens in the postseason. It usually 283 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: comes down to it's a half court game. And that's 284 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: where some of these teams struggle. You get to go 285 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: willy nilly up and down the floor during the regular 286 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: season and then all of a sudden, bod is it change? 287 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: They put up the stop sign, and Miami has done 288 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: a great and they have a great game plan. And 289 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: I wonder who has a better chance of coming back, 290 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: the Raptors against the Celtics or the Bucks against the Heat. 291 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: And unless I see something out of Pascalciakum, I would 292 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: probably say the Bucks have a better chance against the Heat, 293 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: because I think the Celtics if Kemba Walker's playing well, 294 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: and I Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum, and then if you 295 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: get the wild card in there, then Marcus Smart hitting threes. 296 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Boston is going to be really difficult here, and they're 297 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: going to remain difficult here because I love those forwards. 298 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: They play off, they play both both ends, man, and 299 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: then you put Kemba in there. Yeah, McLevin wonder the 300 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Vegas favorite in the East is if it's Boston or Miami. 301 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: Now they feel about exactly the same, right, I don't know, 302 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: check Paul if there's an update on odds there. Yeah. 303 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to talk about the 304 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: passing of Tom Sever because if you're a certain age, 305 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: you probably didn't or don't understand the magnitude of Tom 306 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: sever and what he meant for the New York Mets 307 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: for pitching in general. I passed away at the age 308 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: of seventy five. He was battling dementia and I think 309 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: he was living on a vineyard. He had basically said, 310 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: or his wife said that he was kind of removing 311 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: himself from public life a couple of years ago just 312 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: to protect him a battling dementia. But what he did 313 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: and when he did it and how he did it 314 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: was pretty special and earned the nickname Tom Terrific. More 315 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. We'll go back into the bubble 316 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: coming up next hour, and tonight it's Raptors Celtics that's 317 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: gained three Nuggets Clippers Game one. We're back after this 318 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: and The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The 319 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 320 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 321 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station 322 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: for the Dan Patrick Show at Fox sports Radio dot com, 323 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 324 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: by searching f s R. Kind of a sneaky little 325 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: story yesterday. Don't know if I caught your attention, but 326 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: George's starting quarterback Jamie Newman opted out of this season 327 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: because of coronavirus concerns. He announced it on social media yesterday, 328 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: and Newman, who has ranked number six in the latest 329 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: positional rankings by ESPN NFL analyst Todd McShay, instead says 330 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: he's going to prepare for the NFL draft. Now. He's 331 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: a transfer from Wake Forest, a graduate transfer, and he 332 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: was probably going to be the starting quarterback. That's probably 333 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: going to be the former USC quarterback JT. Daniels, I 334 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: believe who will now get that probably going to be well. 335 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: I got to see he received an NCAA waiver to 336 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: play this season, so I'm going to guess he's going 337 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback here. Jake from went to 338 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, but Newman decided that he wasn't going 339 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: to play and we saw a couple of LSU players, 340 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: including the best receiver in the draft, Jamar Chase, and 341 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: my source told me that this was the week you 342 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: were going to see if there were going to be 343 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: players who were going to opt out, this is it 344 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: was going to happen this week. So we've seen a 345 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: few of them so far, including George's starting quarterback. Tom 346 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: sever passed away at the age of seventy five and 347 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: known as Tom Terrific, and he came out of USC 348 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: I think originally drafted by the Dodgers, and I think 349 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: Tommy Lasorda was the scout who was going to sign 350 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: Tom Sever and Sever wanted like fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, 351 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers said no. He eventually, I think, got 352 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: drafted by the Atlanta Braves and then something happened and 353 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't know the full story, went back to school, 354 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: tried to go back to school. They wouldn't let him 355 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: pitch at USC, and then he went to the New 356 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: York Mets. And they understand that the Mets one year 357 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: they lost one hundred and twenty games, which is really 358 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: hard to lose that many games, And this was nineteen 359 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: sixty two. So Tom Sever I think got there in 360 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, and then you started to see where 361 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: he'd win like fifteen or sixteen games, and then all 362 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: of a sudden, something magical happened, and you know the 363 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: miracle Mets because but seven years later they're winning a 364 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: World Series and you had Tom sever you had Jerry Kuzman, 365 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: John Matt Lack I don't think got there until seventy, 366 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: had Gary Gentry. Nolan Ryan wasn't good enough to make 367 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: the rotation. He was a reliever on that team. But 368 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: Tom Severer and the Mets great pitching staff, colorful team, 369 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: colorful characters, but they know Cleon Jones and Art Shamsky 370 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: and Al Weiss. I mean, they didn't have a great 371 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: team as far as talent goes, but they had a 372 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: unbeatable team. They played, they complimented each other, and you 373 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: had that great pitching staff as well Gil Hodges as 374 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: the manager. But Tom sever I got I was fortunate 375 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: when he got traded from the metch to the Cincinnati 376 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: Reds and that was like Pat Zachary and Doug Flynn 377 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: and the Reds got Tom sever And it was like, 378 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: how did the Reds get Tom sever And you know, 379 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: he ended up throwing a no hitter for the Cincinnati Reds. 380 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: First ballot Hall of Famer, one of the highest percentages 381 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: of votes in Hall of Fame history. If you said, 382 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: if you were going to put one picture a picture 383 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: of a picture, or if I was going to do 384 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: a movie about a pitcher, he would look and perform 385 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: like Tom Siever Matten a idol looks and he just 386 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: had his ability to his form was spectacular, and he 387 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: won over three hundred games, over three thousand strikeouts, And 388 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: there was just something about Tom sever when he took 389 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: the mound, that confidence. And I got to see him 390 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: at Yankee Stadium when he pitched for the White Socks. 391 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: So he was going for his three hundredth win. And 392 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: he's forty years of age and he's completing games back then. 393 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how many games. He may have completed 394 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: six or seven games that year. He's forty years of age. Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Dan, 395 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: You're right. His last at age thirty nine and forty 396 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: with the White Sox. He was fifteen eleven, then sixteen 397 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: and eleven. He completed ten games and then six games. 398 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: No one in the baseball is going to complete six games. 399 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: Ye oh, any year. Yeah, but he was you know 400 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: they talked about being a workhorse. That's when you had 401 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: that number one guy, you feel really confident when you 402 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: send him out to the mound. And Tom sever exuded 403 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: that at age seventy five pass away. And you have 404 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: to understand who the Mets were before he got there, 405 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: and there were books written about how bad the you know, 406 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: and you had Casey Stengel, who was a colorful manager. 407 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: But they lost one hundred and twenty games, and to 408 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: prove that onn't a fluke. I think they lost like 409 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten and one hundred and fifteen and 410 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: other seasons. Sarah, Yeah, Poe. The first year he was 411 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: with the Mets, they were sixty one and one on one. 412 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: They were the worst. Two years later they won. They 413 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: were one hundred and sixty two and won the World 414 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: Series years later. Yeah, pretty remarkable beat the Baltimore Orioles. 415 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: And that Orioles team had a great pitching staff and 416 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: they had Hall of famers with Frank and Brooks Robinson, 417 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: you had book Powell, Mark Blanger your shortstop. You had 418 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: Paul Blair, Buford, Don Buford was on that team. They 419 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: had a really really good team, the Orioles, and a 420 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: really good rotation as well. So Tom Severer rest in 421 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: peace at the age seventy five. Anthony Joints is from California. 422 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: High a man. Good morning, Dan. Yeah, it's just a 423 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: really really sad day. It's my boyhood hero is no more. 424 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: Growing up in the sixties, every kid wanted to be 425 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: Tom sever Every kid wanted to do his drop down delivery, 426 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: and we came home with skin knees and ripped jeans 427 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: left and right. Our mothers would yell at us. But 428 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: in an era when pitchers were called to pitch deep 429 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: into the game every single time, you could spend hours 430 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: talking about his Hall of Fame stats and how they 431 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: hold up. And even now, more than a half century later, 432 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: just thinking about Tom brings you back to sixty nine 433 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: and how he put a hapless team on his shoulders 434 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and made made them in all of New York believed 435 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: that the impossible could and would happened. I cried in 436 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: seventy seven when they traded him. I was just beside 437 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: myself because of what Dick Young did and what the 438 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: the owners did at the time, And I cried last night. 439 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: It's just a very sad day. It's like a big 440 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: part of my childhood is over now. Well, thank you, Anthony, 441 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate your thoughts on that, your memories. Yeah, Dick 442 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Young was a columnist New York Daily News and he 443 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: was rough on Tom sever there. And I don't know 444 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: if the contract issues. I'm trying to remember this off 445 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: the top of my head, but I think there were 446 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: contract issues. And then they decided they were going to 447 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: trade him to the Cincinnati Reds, and I felt bad 448 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: for Doug Flynn and I think it's Pat Zachary. They 449 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: were sent to the Mats and people thought, well, what 450 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: are we getting for Tom Severer? And then you realized 451 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: you weren't getting Tom Severer. Mike in California, Hi, Mike, 452 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: what do you have for me? Hey? What's up? BP? 453 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Hey real quick. My uncle and Tom were really good 454 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: friends plateball in high school and a little bit after that. 455 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: And anyways, he flew my uncle and my grandfather out 456 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: to when he got inducted into the Hall of Fame, 457 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: stayed at his house and stuff like that. Anyways, my 458 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: uncle passed away about eleven years ago, and at the funeral, 459 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: I ran into Tom and seeing a bunch of pictures 460 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: with my uncle and Tom playing, uh, you know, golf together. 461 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: And I didn't know my uncle played golf. So I said, hey, Tom, 462 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Uh I didn't know my uncle played golf. Was he 463 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: any good? And uh, Tom said, you know what? Your 464 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: uncle was good at minu DP. My uncle's full blooded Italian. 465 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: I said, what's that, Tom? He said, Uh, never shutting 466 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: fu talk at your back swing. They'll talk whenever he wanted. 467 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: He didn't care about the game of golf. I'll tell 468 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: you that myself. We laughed about that and uh yeah, 469 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. And so he died almost eleven year, 470 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, through about three days apart. So they're together again. 471 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, started to share that with you. Have a 472 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: good day. Thank you, Mike. Tom Severer one of five 473 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: pictures all time with at least three hundred wins, three 474 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: thousand strikeouts and three Cy Young Awards. Steve Carlton, Randy Johnson, 475 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: Greg Maddox, and Roger Clement. Dave is an All Star 476 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: twelve times. The only other picture starting pitcher with more 477 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: All Star appearances Warren Spond, who had fourteen. Yeah, Paul, 478 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: outside of Cincinnati where you grew up, when you were 479 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: a little kid. Who was the first baseball player you 480 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: remember being the star, the famous guy, the one that 481 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 1: was a household name when you were a little kid 482 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: outside of Cincinnati. Probably Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays. They do 483 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: commercials and TV commercials and things. They did ads in magazines. 484 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: You would see print ads. Sometimes it'd be for ovaltine 485 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: or cigarettes, you know back then that you know went 486 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: a big deal. Joe Demigo there with cigarettes, smoking a heater, 487 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: but like Mickey Mantle. And then I eventually met Mickey 488 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Mantle late in his life, and you know, you just 489 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: have this build up of God, that's Mickey Mantle. And 490 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: my dad telling me about Mickey Manton, like my dad 491 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: would tell me, you know, Jerry West. I mean, that's 492 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: when I started following Jerry West. My dad said, this 493 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: guy plays the game the right way, like it there 494 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: was a specialness to that. Oscar Robertson, you know baseball players, 495 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: he would always talk about Mickey Mantle, and we didn't 496 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: know what Mickey was like off the field, but he 497 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: just said that ability that he had is god given, 498 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: like they're just not many players who are like that. 499 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: And I just remember when I got to meet him, 500 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: and I couldn't help but think of my dad where 501 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: I and I didn't have anything to say. Like I 502 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: was introduced by somebody to Mickey Mantle go oh, here's 503 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: a sports reporter and then introduced me and I just 504 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: stared at him and he looks at me like and 505 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: they looks over to his friend, like what is going 506 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: on here? And I said, I don't know what to say, 507 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: and he goes, you know, I have say and he 508 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: had said that Oklahoma drawl, you know, Yeah, I say anything, 509 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: It's all right, And I'm like, oh my god, I 510 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: just froze up. I didn't have anything to say to 511 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle, I think, and I'm sure that I'm not 512 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: alone when you meet some of these people when he 513 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: was one of those like Ali. When I first met 514 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali, You're like, I have no idea what to say, 515 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: but he had plenty to say. He'd always make you 516 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: feel comfortable, and Micky wanted to do that as well. 517 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: Mickey wanted to make you feel comfortable. Yeah, Poe, I 518 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: guess that was for me as a little kid. I'm 519 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: not the biggest baseball fan outside the Cubs, but I 520 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: can remember seeing like Reggie Jackson with the Yankees, like, oh, 521 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: that's a superstar. He was you knew his name no 522 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: matter what household you lived in. Her Even Steve Garvey 523 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: with the La Dodgers. I don't know if he was 524 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: the best player when I was a kid, but I'd 525 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: be like, that guy seems like a star. Well, we 526 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: hated the Dodgers because I was a Reds fan, so 527 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: they'd always talk about their line up and their infield, 528 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: and I go, they're not better than the big red machine. Stop. 529 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson had the famous quote about Tom sever He said, 530 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: blind men come to listen to Tom sever pitch because 531 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: that fastball, like there's certain eyes when they threw it. 532 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: You heard it, and you know that Reggie would have 533 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: that comment. Yes, it seems like in the so for me, 534 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: it was more the like mid eighties, right, So it's 535 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: like Ozzie Smith there seemed like I would really only 536 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: pay attention mostly to the Yankees and whatever the Mets 537 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: are doing, because that seemed to be in growing up 538 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. That was like the biggest rivals. But 539 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: there was always one player on other teams that you 540 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: knew of, like you know, of course, George Brett seemed 541 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: like he was just a massive superstar, you know, and 542 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: doing it in a big moment. Yeah, I mean, that's 543 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: really what it comes down to. I mean, George Brett 544 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: was a wonderful regular season player, but George Brett in 545 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: the postseason that's where legacies are made. Cal Ripken Junior 546 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: was just larger than life. You knew that Orioles are 547 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: coming to town, that that's the dude. Well, Plus, I've 548 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: been in this business such a long time that when 549 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: you are following somebody growing up and then all of 550 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, you become sort of an equal to them, 551 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: and you're able to just talk Like Johnny Bench watches 552 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: the show every day. And if you would have said 553 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: to me when I'm growing up going to Red's games 554 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: trying to sneak in and Johnny Bench is hitting forty 555 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: five home runs and like we're he's going to call 556 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: into your show, like you'll be friends with Johnny Bench, 557 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, like, Jerry West brought a cake 558 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: to our set in LA that morning. I don't know 559 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: what I look like when Jerry West walked in celebrating 560 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: our tenth anniversary of the show, but I just see 561 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: this guy off to the side and I go, man, 562 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: he is impeccably drink like they got somebody to deliver 563 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: the cake that looks like he came out of a catalog. 564 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: And then PAULI says, oh, yeah, it's Jerry's Cakes of Torrents, 565 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: and I go, all right, fine bringing the cake, and 566 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's Jerry West. I went, Jerry 567 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: West is delivering the cake for my anniversary. And then 568 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: al Michaels is there with us. I could just and 569 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: I grew up listening to al Michaels. So been very 570 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: lucky staying power a shelf life here, but to be 571 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: able to be around these people, very very fortunate. Yampoint. 572 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: When we were going to surprise you at Jerry West, 573 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: we made sure that there's a camera on you because 574 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: your faith, man, and you look and you see it 575 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: and you have like you go from a beat of 576 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: confusion and then you kind of looked down like, oh 577 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, you had to like collect yourself. It's cool. 578 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: And I think I said that to Jerry West when 579 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: I first met him, that every time I saw him, 580 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: I saw my dad because my dad told me that 581 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: Jerry when he was at West Virginia and he might 582 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: have been the most outstanding player during the Final four, 583 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: and they didn't win the championship. And it always and 584 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: I used to stay up late when the Lakers would 585 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: play the Celtics, and I cry because the Lakers would 586 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: lose to the Celtics, and I so wanted Jerry West 587 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: to win a title. And then it's nineteen seventy two, 588 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers come to Cincinnati. I go and 589 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: watch the Lakers. They have Will Chamberlain, and I get 590 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: Cherry West's autograph and his penmanship was perfect, still is perfect. 591 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: But to be able to then see him in person 592 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: play and then how many years later he's sitting there 593 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: on our set in Los Angeles. Though very very fortunate. 594 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: And the same thing happened with Pete Merevich because Pete Merevich, 595 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: he's putting up forty five a game, and I'd watched 596 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: the game. You know, we didn't have cable, they were 597 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: on cable back then, so you get like the SEC 598 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: Game of the week and you watch Pete Merevich put 599 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: up forty five and they'd losed against Kentucky. And then 600 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: fast forward to me seeing him in person in Cincinnati 601 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: when he played for the Hawks to then go into 602 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame speech, his Hall of Fame day, 603 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: and then sitting down to interview him. And then it 604 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: wasn't long after that that he passed away on a 605 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: basketball court in Los Angeles. All right, we'll take a 606 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: break here. It's we're away from the start of the 607 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: NFL season. It feels weird because there's no ramp up 608 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: to this. We'd have preseason, you'd have stories that were 609 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: coming out. The reporters would be able to have more 610 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: of a hands on feel. They would be giving us stories. 611 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know I'm ready for it. 612 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Paul, it'd be like if you went 613 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: to a movie theater. The movie just started playing and 614 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: there's no previews. You know, there's like eight minutes of previews, 615 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: and you settle in and you're used to it whether 616 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: you like them or not. This football season feel like 617 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: we got no previews in the movie just started. Yes, 618 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: that's good where you're you know, you're ease into the movie. Yeah, 619 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: you can ignore that the Bruce Willis action movie preview 620 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: and whatever, the Liam Neisson movie preview, but then boom, 621 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: movie starts. All right, we'll take a break. I think 622 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: we might have an update on the Big Ten and football. 623 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I gave you one at the top of the hour. 624 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: Just it's been quiet and there's still there's a great 625 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: continental divide going on inside the Big Ten with presidents, 626 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: athletic directors, coaches, you know, the politics of trying to 627 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: get back on the football field. But it looks like 628 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: there's another report out there that I'll have for you 629 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: coming up next here on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks 630 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 631 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 632 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 633 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 634 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day at YouTube dot com 635 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: slash the Dan Patrick Show once again if you're just 636 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: joining us. Steve Nash is the new head coach of 637 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets. I did not see that one coming. 638 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: They kept that under wraps because that's always in almost 639 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: like the bait and switch. Hey, we're trying to get 640 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Greg Popovich in here. Okay, that's a long shot. I 641 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: didn't hear anything else about Greg Popovich, and all of 642 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got Steve Nash come on down his 643 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: first head coaching job. Yes, boy, it does seem like 644 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: a different generation. Coaches used to have to work their 645 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: way up, like Phil Jackson. Wasn't he with the Albany 646 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: Patroons or something? Yeah? His first job wasn't the Knicks 647 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: or the Bulls? Yeah? Yeah, that's Nash's first job as 648 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: coaching Kevin Durant and don't know his first one. Probably 649 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna be some blowback on this, you know, should he 650 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: have gotten the opportunity? You know, does the NBA subscribe 651 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: to the Rooney rule? I don't know. Yeah, Love, I 652 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: saw a list of some guys who jumped into I 653 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: think Larry Bird, Doc Rivers I think might have had 654 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: his first job. I'll double check. I think Doc came 655 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: out of the broadcast booth. Yeah, and then he that 656 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: was That's kind of a thing people have done too, 657 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: come out like Steve Kerr. Well, wait was Doc in 658 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: Orlando and then when he got fired, went into the 659 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: broadcast booth to work with Al Michaels. I'm not sure. 660 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: And Steve Kerr was a GM in Phoenix and then 661 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: he became head coach. Oh, he was a GM there. 662 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: That's when you got him in trouble. That's when I 663 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: got him fine twenty five thousand dollars when I was 664 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: joking about, hey, could you sign Lebron for the veteran 665 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: minimum and then he joked about it. Yeah. See, that's 666 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: interesting about Steve kerk because he's sort of worn every 667 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: hat there is to wear, you know what I mean. 668 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: He's been a player at GM. I don't know what 669 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: else he could possibly do. It's kind of like the 670 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: ideal coach in that respect. Nash No, Steve Karr, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 671 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: he saw it from all angles there. Assistant coach, head 672 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: coach GM. Yeah. Absolutely. But Steve Nash was just kind 673 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: of a special consultant with Golden State, and I think 674 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: that's where the relationship with Kevin Durant probably was sparked. 675 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: All Right. I mentioned that an update on the Big Ten. 676 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: There are multiple reports right now that are saying the 677 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: Big Ten will have a revote to on return to 678 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: play and it should happen either on Friday or Saturday. 679 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't have any confirmation on this, but I will 680 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: trust those who are reporting on it given the sensitivity 681 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: of the topic. But several websites that cover the Big 682 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: Ten reporting the conference's chancellors and presidents are slated to 683 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: have a revote this week and potentially reverse the decision 684 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: and play football this fall. As I mentioned during the show, 685 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: there's a great divide going on here and you're going 686 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: to have a revote, and the fact that it's quiet, 687 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: Big ten has been very quiet. Nobody's been available. People 688 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: that are normally available have not been made available to 689 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: have any kind of conversation on the record here, and 690 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: that's where I thought this is probably a good thing here. 691 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: I viewed it as a positive and I even reached 692 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: out to my source here during the commercial break and 693 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: just say hearing that this is happening, what are you hearing? 694 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: And have not heard back from him. But I don't 695 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: know how much support Ohio State, Nebraska, and Iowa can 696 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: get from the other teams, the others schools, because that's 697 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: what it's going to come down to. I told you 698 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: initially the presidents had a informal vote and that's why 699 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: it was twelve to two, and then all of a 700 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: sudden you heard, oh no, it was eleven to three 701 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: and the third was Ohio State. So it started out 702 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: Nebraska and Iowa where the loan dissenters saying we want 703 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: to play and they've been very vocal, and we didn't 704 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: hear anything about Ohio State. At the same time, Nebraska 705 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: and Iowa we're talking about wanting to play football. Now 706 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we kind of shoehorned Ohio State 707 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: in there, and now Ohio State is leading the chart. 708 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: From what I was told, Ohio State was not in 709 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: favor of playing football to start, but I was told 710 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: Wisconsin was the leak that they wanted this to resurface, 711 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: and they leaked out some information that was last week 712 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: and maybe great work. We're going to look back on 713 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: this and say, you know, there's certain things that happened 714 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: that brought about this revote and maybe playing football. I 715 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: don't know how many votes you have to have. I'm 716 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: trying to find all this out, but can you have 717 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: ten schools play football and four that decide not to 718 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten and then what happens if you 719 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: go to a national title gang? Are you sharing your 720 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: revenue with those schools that decided that they did not 721 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: want to play. I'm gonna guess you shouldn't, but I 722 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, this is a while wild west 723 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: in the Midwest, right now, but you know the reports 724 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: are and they're multiple. They're probably four or five different 725 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: reports here. In fact, my sources just texting me. He says, 726 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: yes that I think that that will happen. They have 727 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: to do something now to put this to bed. So 728 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you revote either way? You just say, 729 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: let's let's all revote, But then are you ready to 730 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: deal with the consequences if all of a sudden you 731 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: realize that it's ten four to not play instead of 732 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: the other way around. And I'm not sure. I don't 733 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: know how many positives or yes votes that it takes 734 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 1: for you to say we're gonna play football. Does Ohio 735 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: State State get like two votes and let's go to 736 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: Ohio State? Yes? And Ohio State yes? Okay, wait you 737 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: got two votes? Yeah, we're the Ohio State. Yes, McLevin. 738 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: Let's face it, Northwestern should be covering Ohio State football journalistically, 739 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: not playing. And Northwestern is like Alabama in the seventies 740 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: compared to Rutgers. Yeah, I don't think Northwestern's playing. It 741 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: seems like they're kind of vocal against playing. Yes, they 742 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: have been from what I was told. And Illinois, but 743 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: I think it had something to do with statewide in 744 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: Illinois on testing just travel, same with Rutgers, with with 745 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, travel going into New Jersey and then I 746 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: don't know what's happening with Maryland. Haven't heard anything about Maryland. 747 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: But you might have ten schools that say, hey, let's 748 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: go and then four that don't go. Yes, if you're 749 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: a big ten coach, do you and you think it's 750 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: maybe not safe, that you're not into it, do you 751 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: have to publicly, or at least for your players in 752 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: the athletic department, pretend that you want to play. If 753 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: you're a Pat Fitzgerald or a great ciano, or school 754 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: that may not want to play, but you have to 755 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: put on the face that you're all bummed and disappointed 756 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: that you really wanted to be in on it. Well, 757 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you want to. I don't think you 758 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: want to cut out the knees, you know, cut off 759 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: the knees of your president or chancellor there. Now, Hey, 760 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: we decide as a school. I'm assuming Pat Fitzgerald at 761 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: Northwestern wants to play. Former player, you want to play, 762 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: that's you. You're a coach. But I think that's where 763 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: you have to be careful and say hey, whatever's best 764 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: for our school, I will comply with we want to 765 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: play football, my kids want to play football. But we 766 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: have to be respectful of those making the decisions higher 767 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: up on the food chain. Final Hour coming up.