Speaker 1: What's that at the bed?
Speaker 2: It's spooky and you keep I'm pretty sure it's dead.
Speaker 2: Kid's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, hal said.
Speaker 2: Hyros dresss e police, Hey boo, it's your girl, ros
Speaker 2: Dress fales Hi. I have been all over the country
Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks, having the time of my
Speaker 2: life with our guest today, Peaches christ and I actually
Speaker 2: spent a couple of days in northern California, and of course,
Speaker 2: like always, I'm saying to all the local folks, hey,
Speaker 2: where's where's the ghost spots? Where can I go to
Speaker 2: find some ghosts? And everyone's like, you gotta go to
Speaker 2: the Winchester Mystery House.
Speaker 1: Did I know?
Speaker 2: Because I didn't have a car and I didn't feel
Speaker 2: like for a lift all the way out there. But
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it, the Winchester Mystery House.
Speaker 1: Have you been there?
Speaker 2: Well, one of our listeners has and they actually sent
Speaker 2: me this fabulous review and they included a story about
Speaker 2: the Winchester Mystery House. And you can also tell me
Speaker 2: your ghost stories for me to read on the air,
Speaker 2: simply by writing them in a review a five star
Speaker 2: review on Apple Podcasts, or you could actually send me
Speaker 2: an email as well at ghostedbyras at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: This one comes from Sharon Hurt. I was taking a
Speaker 2: tour of the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, California.
Speaker 2: We were in the carriage hallway at the backsteps of
Speaker 2: the original farmhouse. I was at the back of the
Speaker 2: tour group, and suddenly I got that feeling you get
Speaker 2: in a crowd where someone is standing in your space
Speaker 2: but not touching. Oh do I know that, well, Gonnie.
Speaker 2: I looked over my shoulder and I saw a man
Speaker 2: about five foot six with dark hair and a mustache. Hmm, okay,
Speaker 2: could be my type. I don't know. He met my
Speaker 2: eyes and smiled at me. Ooh girl, he was trying
Speaker 2: to share with you. I smiled back and moved a
Speaker 2: step away from him because I thought he was part
Speaker 2: of the tour and I had been on that tour
Speaker 2: once before, so I was trying to give him room
Speaker 2: to see better. When I looked back at him, he
Speaker 2: was gone. I found out years later that there have
Speaker 2: been several reports of people seeing workmen who apparently died
Speaker 2: while working on the house. Okay, so what is the
Speaker 2: Winchester Mystery House. It's why I haven't been but it
Speaker 2: looks so cool according to the Internet, and I've heard
Speaker 2: from many people that have been there that it's something
Speaker 2: you gotta check out if you're ever in the San Jose,
Speaker 2: California area. There's All So, a movie that came out
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen that started Helen Mirren as Sarah Winchester.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's worth the watch. I
Speaker 2: looked it up on Google and it had like an
Speaker 2: eighteen percent on Rotten Tomatoes. But you know, Helen Mirren
Speaker 2: gotta love Helen Mirren. I'm sure she's amazing in it.
Speaker 2: So the story starts in ps. I went to Prairie
Speaker 2: Ghost dot com, which is a great resource, and this
Speaker 2: is what they told me. Starts out with Sarah Pardi
Speaker 2: par Dee. That's a great last name, Sarah Party. She's
Speaker 2: from New Haven, Connecticut. She was four foot ten. She
Speaker 2: was beautiful. According to the website. She had a personality
Speaker 2: and loveliness. It really sounds like she was that type
Speaker 2: where it's like all the girls wanted to be her
Speaker 2: and all the guys wanted to be with her. She
Speaker 2: said what everyone wanted to say but was too afraid to.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that, but it just seemed like it
Speaker 2: seemed like she was that kind of person. Sarah Party. Now,
Speaker 2: at the same time in New Haven, William worked. Winchester
Speaker 2: was growing up. He was the son of a businessman
Speaker 2: who made a fortune because he obtained assets to affirm
Speaker 2: that that had that created the gun with the volcanic repeater,
Speaker 2: which made it much easier to load and fire guns.
Speaker 2: They eventually developed the Henry rifle, which was the first
Speaker 2: gun that was really you know, at this time they
Speaker 2: had the muskets and the you know, and you had
Speaker 2: to pack the thing in and all that. This this
Speaker 2: was a gun where you could shoot an average shot
Speaker 2: every three seconds. So this was huge. So that of
Speaker 2: course they made a fortune. It was one of the
Speaker 2: favorites among the Northern troops in the Civil War. They
Speaker 2: ended up changing the name to Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Now,
Speaker 2: in September thirtieth, eighteen sixty two, at the height of
Speaker 2: the Civil War, William and Sarah married. So she goes
Speaker 2: from this is the after party, after party, she goes
Speaker 2: from Sarah Party to Sarah Winchester. Four years later they
Speaker 2: had a daughter and sadly she died. The daughter died
Speaker 2: of a children's disease called miramus, which it sounds horrible.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 2: Apparently the body just wastes away. So of course she's
Speaker 2: completely devastated. And then her husband, William dies, he has
Speaker 2: a pulmonary tuberculosis. Now she ends up inheriting over twenty
Speaker 2: million dollars. We're talking eighteen hundreds twenty million dollars and
Speaker 2: forty eight point nine percent of Winchester Repeating Arms Company,
Speaker 2: and she got about one thousand dollars a day. But
Speaker 2: you know, she's still grieving. It's terrible, terrible loss because
Speaker 2: actually her husband had at that point become the heir
Speaker 2: to the Winchester Repeating Arms Company fortune. So she's grieving.
Speaker 2: She goes to a psychic after a friend suggests it.
Speaker 2: Psychic says, your husband is here. He says, for me
Speaker 2: to tell you that there is a curse on your
Speaker 2: family which took the life of your child. It will
Speaker 2: soon take you too. It is a curse that has
Speaker 2: resulted from the terrible weapon created by the Winchester family.
Speaker 2: Thousands of persons have died because of it, and their
Speaker 2: spirits are now seeking vengeance. Sarah was then told that
Speaker 2: she must sell her property in New Haven and head
Speaker 2: toward the setting sun. She would be guided by her husband.
Speaker 2: When she found her new home in the west, she
Speaker 2: would recognize it. You must start a new life, said
Speaker 2: the medium, and build a house for yourself and for
Speaker 2: the spirits who have fallen from this town. Terrible weapon. Two.
Speaker 2: You can never stop building the house. If you continue building,
Speaker 2: you will live. Stop and you will die. So she
Speaker 2: sells her home in New Haven. Guided by the hand
Speaker 2: of her husband, she ends up in Santa Clara Valley, California.
Speaker 2: Originally it was a six room house that she finds
Speaker 2: that sits on one hundred and sixty two acres of land.
Speaker 2: For the next thirty six years, she built and rebuilt,
Speaker 2: changed and constructed and demolished one section after another. Twenty
Speaker 2: two carpenters year round twenty four seven. There was banging
Speaker 2: and sawing NonStop. Now, according to Sharon Hurt, there might
Speaker 2: have been some workers that died while building this, and
Speaker 2: they've made some appearances in recent times. Now this house
Speaker 2: is crazy. Though rooms were added to rooms, they turned,
Speaker 2: they turned it into entire different way. Wings of the
Speaker 2: insections of the house were doors joined into windows. The
Speaker 2: house's seven stories, three elevators, forty seven fireplaces, countless staircases
Speaker 2: leading to nowhere, blind chimneys that stop at ceilings, closets
Speaker 2: that open to blank walls, trap doors, double back hallways,
Speaker 2: doors that opened to steep drops that if you open
Speaker 2: the door, you would just fall all the way down
Speaker 2: to the ground. She also had an obsession with the
Speaker 2: number thirteen. Nearly all the windows contained thirteen panes of glass,
Speaker 2: the walls had thirteen panels, Many of the wooden floors
Speaker 2: contained thirteen sections. Some of the rooms had thirteen windows,
Speaker 2: and every staircase but one had thirteen steps. So nineteen
Speaker 2: oh six, the Great San Francisco earthquake hits, the top
Speaker 2: three floors collapse, the fireplace in the room where Sarah
Speaker 2: was sleeping collapse, trapping her inside. Now she's convinced that
Speaker 2: this earthquake was a sign from the spirits that were
Speaker 2: furious because she had nearly completed building this gigantic mansion.
Speaker 2: To ensure that the house was never finished, because again, remember,
Speaker 2: she can't stop building it, or these ghosts are gonna
Speaker 2: kill her to ensure that the house is never finished.
Speaker 2: Because you have to remember, if she ever stopped building
Speaker 2: this house, the ghosts are gonna kill her. She ends
Speaker 2: up boarding up the front thirty front thirty rooms, and
Speaker 2: she also apparently did that to trap the spirits that
Speaker 2: had fallen from the earthquake inside of that room, to
Speaker 2: keep them in because these spirits, I guess were not
Speaker 2: the kind like a walk through walls. Nineteen twenty two,
Speaker 2: at the age of eighty three, she ends up dying
Speaker 2: in her sleep. The house was sold to investors for
Speaker 2: a tourist destination. It is now officially a historical landmark
Speaker 2: in California. Now is it haunted? Was it ever haunted?
Speaker 2: Who knows? Many psychics say yes, there are some of
Speaker 2: the spirits still lurking around. Visitors and employees have reported footsteps,
Speaker 2: banging doors, mysterious voices, windows that bang so hard they shatter,
Speaker 2: same cold spots. You know, all that, all those great
Speaker 2: horror story tropes that happen in haunted houses. I would
Speaker 2: love it if you would visit the Winchester Mystery House,
Speaker 2: or maybe you have tell me, tell me about your experience.
Speaker 2: I want to hear it. But since we are doing
Speaker 2: a Northern California theme show today, I'm gonna send it
Speaker 2: on over to my favorite spooky historical landmark of Northern California.
Speaker 2: Beatus christ You guys, I just got back to Los
Speaker 2: Angeles today because I've been on the road with a
Speaker 2: hero of mine, an icon, someone that I'm going to
Speaker 2: say as a mentor, because you said that you're a
Speaker 2: mentor of mine, So I'm just gonna take that and
Speaker 2: run with it. I'm honored to call her a friend.
Speaker 2: She is truly a legendary queen of San Francisco and beyond.
Speaker 2: She is a director, a writer. She even has her
Speaker 2: own haunted house attraction that you can go to in
Speaker 2: San Francisco called the Terror Vault, And we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about that later, but first, let me introduce to.
Speaker 1: You Peaches christ Ah.
Speaker 2: Thank you Ross.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: Gosh, there's a long time no see.
Speaker 1: I know, right.
Speaker 2: We've literally been in airports and ubers, hotels, hotels, old theaters.
Speaker 2: We've been having the time of our lives. We've been
Speaker 2: doing the show called Mean Gays, which is super cool
Speaker 2: because if you're not familiar with Peaches, what Peaches geniusly
Speaker 2: does is she parodies cult films. What was the first
Speaker 2: one you ever did?
Speaker 1: Oh? God, I mean the first I guess this all
Speaker 1: started with my midnight mass movie series where we actually
Speaker 1: did a performance before we screened a cult movie. And
Speaker 1: that's really the genesis of where this was all born, was.
Speaker 2: The performance based on the movie.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, So the first film we ever screened back
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight with a performance was Faster Pussycat,
Speaker 1: Kill Kill.
Speaker 2: I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good, and we did like an opening number
Speaker 1: with the three ladies, and then we did a tourists
Speaker 1: Satana lookalike contest and we did like a little you know, skit,
Speaker 1: and then we screened the movie. And years later, you know,
Speaker 1: the show had Midnight Mass had grown big enough that
Speaker 1: we actually got to invite and work with Turis Atana.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was amazing.
Speaker 2: And that movie is so so many good quotes, Like
Speaker 2: every line is like a quote. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you ever wanted to see
Speaker 1: something that truly inspired John Waters, check out that film.
Speaker 1: You know, you really see where a lot of his
Speaker 1: inspiration came from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're such a horror horror queen.
Speaker 1: I love horror.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you've even directed your own horror film
Speaker 2: All about Evil, which I love. Where can people find that?
Speaker 1: Well, right now, it's kind of out of print and
Speaker 1: so they're going online. The international versions are available. We're
Speaker 1: hoping that with a ten year anniversary, we're going to
Speaker 1: get like a new look at all about evil and
Speaker 1: negotiating with the streaming services and all of that. So,
Speaker 1: but right now it's actually kind of hard to find.
Speaker 1: So hopefully that'll change in the next year or so.
Speaker 2: It'll be worth it. Yeah, So Peaches, let's talk about ghosts.
Speaker 2: That is, have you had experiences? Do you believe?
Speaker 1: You know, I do believe, and I believe I've had experiences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you're like me, You're were raised a Catholic,
Speaker 2: and that's a great way to beat the beliefs into
Speaker 2: your head that there is holy spirits, that there is resurrections.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, every thing. I mean, you know, demons possessing
Speaker 1: your body, all of that is allowed when you're raised Catholic.
Speaker 2: So what was your first experience?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I since being asked to be on
Speaker 1: your podcast. It was kind of like searching my brain,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just remembered that me and this
Speaker 1: little girl in my neighborhood, you know where I grew up.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the eighties when kids were allowed
Speaker 1: to run free, you know, there. There was no no
Speaker 1: like limit. I mean, I think I had to be
Speaker 1: home before dark. But as like a little kid, you know,
Speaker 1: you could explore the woods. You know, you kind of
Speaker 1: had these boundaries where you couldn't cross this major road
Speaker 1: or this major road and the you know, hundreds of
Speaker 1: acres of I'm.
Speaker 2: Picturing the movie.
Speaker 1: It's very like those eighties movies, you know, like Gooni's Poultergeist,
Speaker 1: you know, et it, what are the New Ones? Stranger
Speaker 1: things like that, you know, the BMX kids like that
Speaker 1: was us, you know, and me and this little girl
Speaker 1: were convinced that we would see this lady and we
Speaker 1: called her the lady, and you know, she was really spooky,
Speaker 1: like in our minds, she was uh, we didn't call
Speaker 1: her a ghost, she was just the lady. But I
Speaker 1: think we knew that what we were seeing was supernatural.
Speaker 2: So where would you see her?
Speaker 1: Well, often in the woods. But then I'll remember very specifically,
Speaker 1: and she wore all black and she was.
Speaker 2: Sorry if you see anything any human in the woods,
Speaker 2: and you're just in the woods and there's another human
Speaker 2: that's already terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she would creep out from behind a tree
Speaker 1: or you know, she would she would you know, appear
Speaker 1: off in the distance and maybe you know, look like
Speaker 1: a tree, but then be the lady and uh. And
Speaker 1: we would tell our parents about the lady, and we
Speaker 1: would draw pictures of the lady, and our parents would
Speaker 1: convince us that we just had really active imaginations. Of course,
Speaker 1: growing up the weirdo that I was, you know, my
Speaker 1: parents thought everything I was interested in was bizarre, you know,
Speaker 1: because I loved spooky stuff from the time I was
Speaker 1: really little. Yeah, so they just kind of dismissed it.
Speaker 1: But there was once that I'm convinced. I went down
Speaker 1: in the basement of our house. And the basement wasn't
Speaker 1: at the time a finished basement. It was kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, a storage like a scary basement, a storage
Speaker 1: space for old stuff. And there was a couch down there,
Speaker 1: and I just remember going down there. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: maybe we you know, kept toys and stuff down there,
Speaker 1: bigger toys. And the lady was behind the couch and
Speaker 1: like stood up from behind it and like looked at me,
Speaker 1: and I just remember like running up the stairs screaming
Speaker 1: and screaming and you know, telling my mother, the lady's
Speaker 1: down there. The lady's down there, and you know, my
Speaker 1: parents again of course convincing me that it was my imagination.
Speaker 1: Now as an adult being asked to be on your
Speaker 1: pot podt, I haven't thought about the lady in many, many,
Speaker 1: many years, but I did think, oh, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe there was something to that, Maybe there was someone there.
Speaker 1: Why did me and this other girl share this imagination?
Speaker 1: Like did we really convince each other we were seeing
Speaker 1: the same thing?
Speaker 2: Or what happened to that girl?
Speaker 1: She's you know, I've seen her on Facebook. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I should reach out to her and ask her
Speaker 1: if she remembers the lady.
Speaker 2: Like do you guys keep in touch, because that could
Speaker 2: be a very weird, like.
Speaker 1: We do it very like our sisters are closer friends,
Speaker 1: so you know, we don't really keep in touch. But
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be very easy for me to reach
Speaker 1: out to her.
Speaker 2: That would be interesting to me. Did you ever think
Speaker 2: that that lady was a ghost or a witch?
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. So years later, a friend of
Speaker 1: mine contacted me about being part of a movie they
Speaker 1: were going to shoot in Maryland, And when she described
Speaker 1: what the movie was, I remember thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is a movie. The Lady like other people in
Speaker 1: Maryland have experienced the Lady, like they know the Lady.
Speaker 1: I remember as a young adult thinking the Lady was
Speaker 1: real because of this this movie that my friend was
Speaker 1: gonna make. And of course I was like, I'd love
Speaker 1: to come back from San Francisco, but your extremely low
Speaker 1: budget movie doesn't sound like it's gonna be much fun
Speaker 1: to shoot, because they were going to be filming in
Speaker 1: the woods with no trailers, you know, sleeping in tents,
Speaker 1: and of course the movie sounded like it wouldn't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: And you know what movie I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Star Wars.
Speaker 1: No, it was the Blair Witch Project.
Speaker 2: In your defense, that sounds like a terrible experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because.
Speaker 2: There was nothing had really been like that. You know,
Speaker 2: that kind of started that found footage phenomenon. As far
Speaker 2: as I know, it's true, and so yeah, if I
Speaker 2: would have heard that, I'd be like, have fun with
Speaker 2: your mosquitoes.
Speaker 1: You know, I actually did really consider it, because you know,
Speaker 1: I was just so hungry to make movies, and I
Speaker 1: studied filmmaking and you know, was making short films in
Speaker 1: San Francisco at the time. I was running a movie
Speaker 1: theater Ironically, the movie theater that a year later had
Speaker 1: the exclusive engagement in Northern California of the Player Witch Project.
Speaker 2: Was the movie Theater Haunted.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I actually believe that most of these old
Speaker 1: buildings have spiritual presence.
Speaker 2: They have to. I have never been to a theater
Speaker 2: that's not haunted. However, we were just doing a tour
Speaker 2: exclusively in old, amazing movie houses and performance venues, in
Speaker 2: silent movie houses where we were performing, and the people
Speaker 2: that I talked to, most of them were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we hear sounds, but like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were well, so I having worked in old theaters,
Speaker 1: so I ran this movie theater in San Francisco called
Speaker 1: the Bridge Theater before that, when I first started with
Speaker 1: Landmark Theaters, that's the company I worked for, who at
Speaker 1: the time was really the largest exhibitor of foreign film
Speaker 1: and American independent cinema in the country. They had a
Speaker 1: lot of acquisitions where they had taken over old, abandoned
Speaker 1: cinemas or cinemas that people no longer wanted to operate.
Speaker 1: So here they still have the new art, you know,
Speaker 1: And at the time they had a lot of old cinemas. Now,
Speaker 1: since then the model has been to create multi screen
Speaker 1: theaters and kind of compete with the sort of mainstream exhibitors.
Speaker 1: But back then, like the company was really a chain
Speaker 1: of old, beat up, run down art house movie theaters.
Speaker 2: Something I love so much about that. I said that
Speaker 2: to you when we were I think, where was the
Speaker 2: Chicago the Patio theater?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the past show.
Speaker 2: Outside of Chicago, and I that's what I was just
Speaker 2: sitting there looking around, and there's something I just love
Speaker 2: about something that's so grand but no longer in its heyday,
Speaker 2: but still feel amazing, this beautiful relic of something that
Speaker 2: like was fabulous.
Speaker 1: You know that people would go to see movies in
Speaker 1: these beautiful palaces, and now we go see movies in
Speaker 1: blank boxes, you know, with refliners or whatever. But back then,
Speaker 1: going to the movies was all part of going to
Speaker 1: a show, and the theater itself, the cinema was part
Speaker 1: of the show. Yeah, it's not like that anymore, not
Speaker 1: too much. But anyway, my feeling, having worked in so
Speaker 1: many of these spaces is that while one or two
Speaker 1: of them was like haunted in the traditional poultrygeist sense,
Speaker 1: you know, you'd hear you know, it's like almost like
Speaker 1: the walls were bleeding, you know thing.
Speaker 2: It's always in the projection room. You see a little shadow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well most of them, though, I would say, and
Speaker 1: people who work in theaters had an energy and you
Speaker 1: could describe it to each other. And I think the
Speaker 1: fact that a lot of us, especially as managers, were
Speaker 1: in these buildings at one two in the morning, you know,
Speaker 1: counting money, locking up the safe, locking the building, and
Speaker 1: they're big and going through and closing a projection room
Speaker 1: and turning all the lights off. You when you talk
Speaker 1: to enough people and you have the same sense of
Speaker 1: a place that's more than just you know what's physically there,
Speaker 1: there's a spiritual presence. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's like with your friend as a kid. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have a shared experience like that. It legitimizes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean there was so the Bridge where
Speaker 1: I worked for many many years. Whatever spirits were there,
Speaker 1: and I do believe there were, they were really nurturing
Speaker 1: and loving. They were happy to have us there. You
Speaker 1: wanted to spend time in the bridge. It was really
Speaker 1: really a nice place to be. It felt comfortable, it
Speaker 1: was warm feeling. The Lumiere Theater over in California Street
Speaker 1: the opposite you did not want to be there alone
Speaker 1: late at night. It felt very, very creepy. Something was
Speaker 1: lurking around every corner. It was just an unpleasant place
Speaker 1: to be. What we found out later was the Lumiere
Speaker 1: sat over partially an old morgue and funeral home, so
Speaker 1: I think that there was something to that. Probably, Wait,
Speaker 1: but how old was the theater it was? It wasn't
Speaker 1: as old as the bridge, which was built in nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty nine, so Lumiere was probably in the later forties
Speaker 1: or fifties.
Speaker 2: But there was a morgue before that.
Speaker 1: Well, so this restaurant that's underneath the Lumire and next
Speaker 1: to it used to be a morgue. So they did
Speaker 1: exist together at one time, the Dead Bodies and the cinema. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then there was another cinema where we worked where
Speaker 1: it wasn't a feeling as much as it was like,
Speaker 1: did you hear that door slam? Did you leave that
Speaker 1: door open? Did you hear that screaming? Was that projector on?
Speaker 1: Why did it just turn off? You know? Stuck like that?
Speaker 1: Was the Belmont Theater, which has since been not demolished,
Speaker 1: but it's transitioned into a rock climbing center, which I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go rock climbing in there because
Speaker 1: someone's gonna push you off the wall.
Speaker 2: You know, why do you in your do you have
Speaker 2: a theory why theaters are haunted? Hmmm, good question, because
Speaker 2: it seems like they're always haunted.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean maybe again, imagination might be part of it,
Speaker 1: you know, uh where maybe we're more open to experiencing,
Speaker 1: you know, we want theaters to be haunted because there's
Speaker 1: such dramatic, fabulous spaces. They're you know, they're they're dark,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're they we live in the shadows
Speaker 1: and these spaces, and you know, there's just sort of
Speaker 1: a dramatic narrative already built into the idea of a
Speaker 1: haunted theater rather than I don't know, a haunted office
Speaker 1: building or whatever.
Speaker 2: You Plus, there's like backstage areas right to you. When
Speaker 2: you're in an audience and there is a backstage, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like, what's mysteriously going on back there? I wonder,
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's more to the story than what
Speaker 2: we're seeing, right, I think it could kind of fill
Speaker 2: your mind. I also think that like theaters where people perform,
Speaker 2: there's just so many traumatic people that live there and
Speaker 2: then they die and then they're just like I still
Speaker 2: want to put on a show.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think maybe in general
Speaker 1: we walk through the world with kind of blinders on
Speaker 1: to this other world, but when we're open to it
Speaker 1: or we're looking for it, you know, we might be
Speaker 1: able to sense its presence more. And I think in
Speaker 1: old cinema's, old buildings, things that look creepy, we tend
Speaker 1: to open our minds more to what might be there,
Speaker 1: whereas in general maybe we're always surrounded by ghosts. But
Speaker 1: I really we are, right, but we're not maybe looking
Speaker 1: for it or it was open to it or yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, plus, you know, those places attract creative people who
Speaker 2: have creative minds, who are usually the ones or often
Speaker 2: the kind of people that believe that there could be
Speaker 2: more than what we see in this world. Right, you know.
Speaker 2: That's why I mean, that's why so many in my
Speaker 2: in my opinion, why so many creatives do you have
Speaker 2: ghost experiences Because we're naturally curious people were naturally people
Speaker 2: that believe the impossible as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do have another ghost story that's
Speaker 1: a little more recent really, that's not in a theater
Speaker 1: or a cinema. So I cause I've been I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about all these things before coming on your fabulous podcast. Uh. So,
Speaker 1: I lived in Provincetown are the last few summers doing shows,
Speaker 1: and not this past summer, but the summer before. My
Speaker 1: roommate was Trixie Mattel, world famous track queen now as
Speaker 1: she was world famous when we lived together. But she
Speaker 1: and I lived in this apartment building kind of a
Speaker 1: cottage off Conwell, which is one of the big streets
Speaker 1: in Province down not the main street that's commercial street,
Speaker 1: but Conwell is also a street that people know because
Speaker 1: it kind of bisects the town. And so we lived
Speaker 1: there and we talked about whether or not it was
Speaker 1: haunted and whether or not we you know, felt anything, and.
Speaker 2: Just did you have a reason to or you're just
Speaker 2: I think we did.
Speaker 1: I think we did, but we didn't know it and
Speaker 1: you know, kind of checked in with each other. But
Speaker 1: I think she and I are kind of similar where
Speaker 1: we're not like afraid of ghosts or anything like. So
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be more like like, you know, do
Speaker 1: you feel like this is a good press like that
Speaker 1: there's a sense of a good spirit here. Now at
Speaker 1: the time, we noticed there was an abnormal amount of
Speaker 1: these lamps that are made out of salt, like do
Speaker 1: you know these salt rocks that like the big hunk
Speaker 1: of Yes, there were like four in every room like
Speaker 1: and we couldn't figure it out as like the lesbian
Speaker 1: homeowners or are there like some spirits that need to
Speaker 1: be in There was sage everywhere, and so again something
Speaker 1: to lead you to believe like hmm, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And I did feel like a little spooked out being there,
Speaker 1: like there was the reasons, especially if you were there
Speaker 1: at night, like you felt like you weren't alone, like
Speaker 1: it was. It was a very clear feeling. So I
Speaker 1: didn't think about it, right. So that's two summers ago,
Speaker 1: and I didn't think about it for a while, And
Speaker 1: then last summer these friends of ours, another artist who
Speaker 1: was living in Province down doing shows. They were living
Speaker 1: in the same house and one of them thought it
Speaker 1: was haunted and wanted to talk to me and Tricksy
Speaker 1: because he knew that we had lived there. Well. His
Speaker 1: roommate had told me that he thought helt this way.
Speaker 1: So like the giant jerk that I am, I prefaced
Speaker 1: I pretend I played dumb, and then when I ran
Speaker 1: into him, I said, I have a really weird question
Speaker 1: for you, but you know, you're living in that house,
Speaker 1: like have you experienced anything strange? And you know, his
Speaker 1: whole face like just you know, he went wide eyed.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, I can't believe it. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, And I was, you know, sort of leading
Speaker 1: him on in a way that I thought was fun.
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, you know, have they started
Speaker 1: grabbing your feet yet, you know, stuff like that, have
Speaker 1: the nosebleeds begun the eating exactly? So so the laughs
Speaker 1: on me because I tell him like, oh no, I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. You know, Tricksy and I we never experienced
Speaker 1: anything that intense, but we did kind of think it
Speaker 1: was haunted, you know. And I was expecting him to
Speaker 1: maybe be mad at me because I realized while I
Speaker 1: was talking to him how much he believed and was serious,
Speaker 1: you know, like he was so serious. So the summer
Speaker 1: goes on and we're talking to more and more people
Speaker 1: about this, and now there's this story about me being
Speaker 1: you know, the practical joker who led him on or whatever,
Speaker 1: and finally someone goes, well, you know, someone was murdered
Speaker 1: there and we're like what and and sure enough we
Speaker 1: research it and not in the unit we were in,
Speaker 1: but right next doors. They're all connected.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Is this kind of famous murder that took place in
Speaker 1: Provincetown where these tweakers were, you know, like hooking up
Speaker 1: and on a meth bender and the one that lived
Speaker 1: murdered the other one.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, chopped off.
Speaker 1: His arms, stuffed him in a closet, continued to have
Speaker 1: tricks over while the dead.
Speaker 2: Body like a full on party in play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a full on, like tweaker psychosis. People
Speaker 1: were still living in other parts of the building because
Speaker 1: that unit had multiple floors with different apartments in it.
Speaker 2: But the dead body stayed in there the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for days, for days. Yeah, horrible. And there's like
Speaker 1: a weird documentary that you can watch about it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: So I watched the whole thing and then I felt
Speaker 1: so terrible because I realized, like, not only is our
Speaker 1: place probably haunted. When you watch the doc you realize
Speaker 1: that the guy that got killed was in love with
Speaker 1: the other one, but that the murderer was just using
Speaker 1: that guy for the drugs. You know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So you feel like there's this real, like tragic part
Speaker 1: of it where not only was he murdered by this guy,
Speaker 1: but he had emotional and romantic feelings for him and
Speaker 1: he was being used and then ended up being murdered
Speaker 1: by this guy.
Speaker 2: So looking back, you feel like that's you could totally
Speaker 2: feel that energy.
Speaker 1: I do. I feel like I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: coincidence that me and Tricksy sort of felt something and
Speaker 1: then that this guy, he's probably much further along. I
Speaker 1: feel like, two, we all have different sort of wavelengths
Speaker 1: with the spirit world, and you know, this guy, I
Speaker 1: think was more open to it. And just this this
Speaker 1: also too. He was if this this dead ghost is
Speaker 1: you know gay guy? Well, this guy is extremely attractive,
Speaker 1: so maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe
Speaker 1: Tricksy and I weren't trade enough. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: That would be me as a ghost.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, he'd be super horny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, Okay. You want to hear
Speaker 2: a story from a listener?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I've been ghosted too.
Speaker 2: So I got a submission for a story from Gina
Speaker 2: cp L. Now she left this story in the ratings
Speaker 2: and reviews section of Ghosted by Ross dress Less on iTunes.
Speaker 2: And you also can leave me a story there for
Speaker 2: us to read on the air, but only if you
Speaker 2: give me five stars. And luckily Gina did. Now she
Speaker 2: actually has a story about Stull Cemetery And have you
Speaker 2: heard about that? Okay, we had on a comedian named
Speaker 2: Kyle Errs who had an experience at Stoll Cemetery. It
Speaker 2: is located in Stoll, Kansas. It is terrifying. Peaches the episode.
Speaker 2: I was so scared when we were in here. It
Speaker 2: was the first episode I've done where I was like,
Speaker 2: I think I need to take a moment to stop
Speaker 2: this because it was so scary. Because it is this
Speaker 2: they call it a gateway to Hell. It's this old
Speaker 2: cemetery where tons of creepy shit happens. There's apparently stairs
Speaker 2: that lead to hell. There is an old church that
Speaker 2: doesn't have a roof and if it rains, it somehow
Speaker 2: doesn't get wet inside of the church. Just weird, trippy shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we also had some EVPs. So for anyone that's listening
Speaker 2: that hasn't heard that episode about Stoll Cemetery the Gateway
Speaker 2: to Hell, listen to the episode with Kyle Air, so
Speaker 2: Gina had sent me this. She said a little bit
Speaker 2: more about Stall. I went to college near Stoll, Kansas.
Speaker 2: A dear friend of mine and I attempted to go
Speaker 2: there once and were deterred by a strange sighting as
Speaker 2: we approached the cemetery. But that's neither here nor there,
Speaker 2: and that's not a very exciting story to tell. Okay, jeez, Gina,
Speaker 2: I heard so many creepy little tidbits about Stull throughout
Speaker 2: my time living in Lawrence, Kansas. My favorite Stole story
Speaker 2: has to do with the hidden steps that descend into hell.
Speaker 2: While at a party, some guy was talking and she
Speaker 2: wrote in parentheses loudly about his Stole adventure. He claimed
Speaker 2: that he and his friends had found the steps. He
Speaker 2: described a small number of stone steps descending into the earth.
Speaker 2: They decided to walk down just a few steps. What
Speaker 2: could possibly grow wrong? She also wrote in parentheses. I
Speaker 2: love that she wrote her own color commentary because she
Speaker 2: knew I was going to do that anyway. But when
Speaker 2: one friend turned around to look back toward the entrance,
Speaker 2: it was as if they had descended fifty steps. Understandably
Speaker 2: freaked out, he yelled, everyone else saw what was happening
Speaker 2: and they got out of there.
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh that's so crazy. I love that concept, or
Speaker 1: just that they would start running up the stairs but
Speaker 1: it wouldn't move like an escalator. That's you know, just
Speaker 1: you weren't getting further.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a step a StairMaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that is my hell.
Speaker 2: That is my hell being on a StairMaster. So I
Speaker 2: also want to play a little game of EVP or
Speaker 2: ev plicse wanted to make this a Peaches Christ edition. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I've got some I've got my first EVP from
Speaker 2: your home state of Maryland's ah okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how you were going to make it
Speaker 1: a Peaches I was like, are they sassy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gossip.
Speaker 1: Bid Rob stops spreading rumors. She is like trying to
Speaker 1: spread it around that Peaches Christ is a gossip You
Speaker 1: know what. Stop trying to make that happen. You're not
Speaker 1: going to make it happen.
Speaker 2: My favorite thing about Peaches is that she's very gossipy.
Speaker 2: But she wanted to gossip about the fact that I
Speaker 2: keep saying she's a gossip true story.
Speaker 1: It does annoy me though, that you won't tell me
Speaker 1: things what do you mean? Like, you're like, well, one queen,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and then I'm like too, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you peaches.
Speaker 2: No, Well that is true, but yeah, listen, you have
Speaker 2: to understand you.
Speaker 1: Admittedly, I love to share stories and I love to
Speaker 1: hear them, and actually I admit that I even kind
Speaker 1: of falsify them.
Speaker 2: Oh that's see. I like that about you, that you
Speaker 2: can admit that I take people's stories and that make
Speaker 2: them better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 2: I do. Okay, Well, let's see if you can make
Speaker 2: this better. Okay, here's an EVP that is from It's
Speaker 2: from Maryland. It was posted onto YouTube by Paranormal or
Speaker 2: not by Maryland Paranormal Research, that's their name. It was
Speaker 2: taken at a private residence in Arnold, Maryland. Oh.
Speaker 1: I know Arnold very well. It's very close to where
Speaker 1: I grew up.
Speaker 2: Okay. It was recorded in twenty eleven. It starts by
Speaker 2: hearing somebody. You hear someone say the words say something,
Speaker 2: and then you hear a spirit. Now, I will say,
Speaker 2: to be fair, I did edit the spirit's voice a
Speaker 2: little bit louder, so it has a slight robotic sound.
Speaker 2: To it, but because it was kind of a whisper.
Speaker 2: But here it is. Tell me what you think it says,
Speaker 2: say something?
Speaker 1: What very brief.
Speaker 2: We'll hear it a few times. I listen, this is
Speaker 2: the I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't find very many parents.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It has a little bit of a robot sound.
Speaker 2: Yeah it does. And that's that's my fault because I was.
Speaker 2: I was very quiet. So I've made letter. Okay, we go.
Speaker 2: But you can hear like a.
Speaker 1: Yes, I hear like a breath, like what I don't
Speaker 1: know where?
Speaker 2: Okay, was it was it? He says, say something? Was
Speaker 2: it a okay? B He goes say something and it goes,
Speaker 2: I'm giving up on you. Do you know that's not no?
Speaker 2: Was it c I'm here or d something? You know,
Speaker 2: like those of not just say something something. It's like
Speaker 2: when you're a student and you go can I go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and the teacher goes, I don't know,
Speaker 2: can you that same kind of a ghost?
Speaker 1: Yes, No, it's not that. I guess I'm here.
Speaker 2: Say something.
Speaker 1: I mean that seems like I'm here might be the
Speaker 1: closest to you.
Speaker 2: You kind of hear it, Yeah it is, I'm here.
Speaker 2: Listen say something.
Speaker 1: I'm here. It's a beach, it's a reach. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they caught something. But I don't know
Speaker 1: that you can necessarily tell what it's saying.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the fun of this game. It's just what
Speaker 2: other people think that it says. Right, But I don't
Speaker 2: doubt that. Yes, he does something.
Speaker 1: I guess it's Evie. Please.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. Is that Is that a Debbie Downer?
Speaker 2: No, it's okay. Here's another one now, this one was
Speaker 2: It's a really cool video I found that was posted
Speaker 2: by Anthony Anderson. No relation to the actor from the
Speaker 2: TV show Blackish or Kangaroo Jack. But his name is
Speaker 2: Anthony Anderson and he recorded this, this whole video that
Speaker 2: retells a ghost hunting adventure that he had at the
Speaker 2: Market Street Theater in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I know that theater well.
Speaker 2: And you know of its haunted.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's considered one of the most haunted sites in
Speaker 1: the city.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He says that some of the ghosts there are
Speaker 2: a mysterious lady in white that performs on stage, caretaker
Speaker 2: Gary who died of heart failure in the basement, and
Speaker 2: mysterious JJ, who's also in the basement. Okay, so here's
Speaker 2: another one, real brief, tell me what you think it says.
Speaker 1: Run, it's a good.
Speaker 2: Guess here it's one of these four options.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I actually wait for you to get the options.
Speaker 2: Is it a hunty, B, clumsy see or d whatever?
Speaker 2: In due predictability? The Milkman, the Baby Book. That's the
Speaker 2: full house theme song. That's what I think of when
Speaker 2: I think of San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Right right, right, Okay, hmm, I guess I guess of
Speaker 1: the those options, I'd say clumsy.
Speaker 2: It is clumsy, it is. Okay, let's hear another.
Speaker 1: Who decides what it is?
Speaker 2: Anthony Anderson.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the YouTube, the recordists they say, this is
Speaker 1: what this ghost is saying. Yeah, okay, I don't.
Speaker 2: Ever like to play EVP, EVPs or ev please if
Speaker 2: they say I think they might have said this.
Speaker 1: This is what they said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So wait, let's hear another. We know it's clumsy.
Speaker 1: Hm. Well, I mean I will say this, considering the
Speaker 1: stories that have come out of the Market Street Cinema.
Speaker 1: I mean, in San Francisco, you've got the Castro Theater
Speaker 1: where we do a lot with all my shows, everyone
Speaker 1: says it's not haunted. That's not true.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I guess I talked to the rump.
Speaker 1: You can talk to different staff members, especially over the years.
Speaker 1: There was a long time in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: and maybe ghosts come and go, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But there were many many employees at one time who
Speaker 1: would claim a very similar story where when they would
Speaker 1: open the balcony, which they don't do very often anymore,
Speaker 1: but you know, for my shows they do. They used
Speaker 1: to keep the balcony and the orchestra open for any screening,
Speaker 1: and it was like less of an event space and
Speaker 1: more like a repertory cinema, and they'd sell tickets and
Speaker 1: some people would go upstairs and there was an usher
Speaker 1: who would go and tell people, I'm sorry, but the
Speaker 1: balcony is closed. And the people would come downstairs and
Speaker 1: complain like, well, then why didn't you put the stanchions
Speaker 1: out or why didn't you tell us? And then the
Speaker 1: staff downstairs would be like, there's no one up there.
Speaker 1: We don't have an usher, and we certainly don't have
Speaker 1: an usher wearing an old usher uniform. Apparently he was
Speaker 1: an old queen, you know, like this older gay man
Speaker 1: who'd be like, I'm sorry, but the balcony is closed,
Speaker 1: and so enough people had that customer complaint over the
Speaker 1: years was usually customers who saw the ghost, not the employees.
Speaker 2: I love the idea of an old queen ghost, right.
Speaker 1: Isn't it fabulous?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know?
Speaker 1: And who knows? I mean, you know part of Vito
Speaker 1: Russo's ashes are stuffed into the wall at the Castro.
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 1: That is true? Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh I never heard that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, check out that Jeffrey Schwartz documentary veto Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: so fabulous and they talk about how uh that Wait
Speaker 1: did they talk about it in the documentary? Or I
Speaker 1: might have heard that from Alan Sawyer, who's this fantastic
Speaker 1: sort of local historian who was a manager of the
Speaker 1: Castro for years and years. Of course, I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: all this sort of history, and I used to have
Speaker 1: a storytelling show and podcast in San Francisco and we
Speaker 1: did a show about old theaters, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: Alan talked about how Vito's I think it's both. I
Speaker 1: think both the film and Alan have talked about how
Speaker 1: Vito's ashes are in the wall, and they know where
Speaker 1: they are. But I don't know where they are.
Speaker 2: Would you do that? No?
Speaker 1: I mean I I guess I probably would want to
Speaker 1: be cremated, but I don't know if I want to
Speaker 1: be in the wall at the Castro.
Speaker 2: But you are like the queen of the Castro Theater.
Speaker 1: I am, but uh and I love the Castro Theater.
Speaker 2: It is such a grand You know.
Speaker 1: What's funny is I think because I work there so
Speaker 1: much and I don't go there as much anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: for for recreational screenings and things, it's changed my sentiments
Speaker 1: about it. I consider it my one of my worst places.
Speaker 1: Kind of Yeah, So let's talk before we go about
Speaker 1: where people can find you this October. Oh, well, talk
Speaker 1: about haunted. So you know, last year I got a
Speaker 1: real dream project to be manifested after many years of trying,
Speaker 1: and so I created an immersive theater company with this company,
Speaker 1: Non Plus Ultra, and they activate old buildings usually owned
Speaker 1: by the city that are sitting empty. And this friend
Speaker 1: of mine, David Flower, who's a professional haunt production designer
Speaker 1: and producer, we joined forces, all of us and opened
Speaker 1: our first ever haunted attraction in San Francisco at the
Speaker 1: Old Mint Building, which is definitely haunted. That's like how
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 2: The Queen Mary one here, Yes, exactly, Yeah, because that
Speaker 2: would be so scary to be like what is real
Speaker 2: and what isn't. But that's a great little hook.
Speaker 1: I actually think sometimes it's it's scarier sometimes for the
Speaker 1: people who work on the project. Like We'd be going
Speaker 1: down to start the show, and I'd be walking through,
Speaker 1: you know, the project, and some of it would be
Speaker 1: very very dark, and you know, and of course the
Speaker 1: actors sometimes are jerks to each other and you know,
Speaker 1: get into their spots and pop out and you know,
Speaker 1: but I would start to think like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's an actor and then realize there's no actor there.
Speaker 1: Why was that thing moving or you know, where did
Speaker 1: that come from?
Speaker 2: I love the idea of an attracted haunted attraction in theory. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like to go through that stuff.
Speaker 1: I think you'd like ours because I wrote a whole script.
Speaker 1: It was a story. It was you know, like there
Speaker 1: was there was a you know, it was part escape room.
Speaker 1: You know, the audience was very much a character in
Speaker 1: the show. You know. It wasn't like you walked through
Speaker 1: and you were passively observing it. You actually were engaged
Speaker 1: by the actors.
Speaker 2: I like that whole experience, yeah, situation. And you you
Speaker 2: also made a few appearances, you said.
Speaker 1: Right, my god, last year I was in every single show,
Speaker 1: which I'll never do that again because that was just
Speaker 1: too much. But I learned so much. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: how hard it would be to do thirty eight shows
Speaker 1: a night as Peaches and come down in an elevator,
Speaker 1: you know, and do the same scene over and over
Speaker 1: and over again where I summoned Baphamet.
Speaker 2: So what is the concept this year, Well, so it's
Speaker 2: still the same.
Speaker 1: Terror Vault is all about the fact that the Mint
Speaker 1: building was secretly used by the city as a prison.
Speaker 1: They did a deal with the federal government after the
Speaker 1: nineteen oh six earthquake before Alcatraz was opened in the
Speaker 1: late thirties, where they were using the vaults to lock
Speaker 1: up the city's worst criminals because they really didn't have
Speaker 1: enough jails and the city was overrun with criminals. Now,
Speaker 1: all of that is true, except for the notion that
Speaker 1: the Mint was ever used as a prison. It was not.
Speaker 1: I made that up. Okay, So the plot is still
Speaker 1: the same. You sort of show up and you go
Speaker 1: on this museum tour, and then you find out that
Speaker 1: when Alcatraz was opened, instead of moving the prisoners to
Speaker 1: the island, they just sealed the vaults and walked away.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to take you downstairs and all hell
Speaker 1: breaks loose. So it's the same plot, except that you're
Speaker 1: going to meet all new prisoners. You know. So last year,
Speaker 1: you know, you met Ignatius Shelby, who was a serial
Speaker 1: killer tax dermist who was fusing humans and Pacific heights
Speaker 1: to animal you know, creatures and making new breeds of things,
Speaker 1: And is that real? No? Okay, you know I made
Speaker 1: it all up. There was a killer clown, turn of
Speaker 1: the century clown who huffed poisonous gas called poppy. There
Speaker 1: was oh, there was a lot of Catholicism, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, there was a whole Satan thing, you know.
Speaker 1: So I created these characters, and you learn about the
Speaker 1: characters ahead of time as part of the exposition of
Speaker 1: the show, so that when you're going through and you're
Speaker 1: walking into these different vaults, and the vaults become these
Speaker 1: worlds of these people, you understand the storyline behind them
Speaker 1: and what they're doing. So this year, I don't want
Speaker 1: to give too much away. But yeah, it's all new
Speaker 1: settings and all new characters, and then we have a
Speaker 1: whole other attraction. What's that, the Morbid Morgue. Because we
Speaker 1: heard from enough people. We did very well last year
Speaker 1: where we were turning people away for the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, So instead of trying to cram more people through,
Speaker 1: we're just designing a whole other show so that we'll
Speaker 1: have two shows and you can go to both shows,
Speaker 1: but just you know, so that we can you know, really,
Speaker 1: i mean, let's face it, make as much money as
Speaker 1: we can in one month with these pop ups because
Speaker 1: we have the whole building. It's massive, it's huge, it's important,
Speaker 1: it's historical. So if there's enough people that can support
Speaker 1: two shows, So the Morbid morgu is going to be
Speaker 1: more of a if Terror Vault's more of a fantastical show,
Speaker 1: full of fantasy because you go into these these worlds,
Speaker 1: these horror worlds, Morbid morg is more like the gritty
Speaker 1: reality of what it would be like to be in
Speaker 1: a prison there and you will be going in and
Speaker 1: has met suits to clean it up?
Speaker 2: And are they allowed to touch you?
Speaker 1: Yes? Well, in Terror Vault, you wear a necklace a
Speaker 1: glow in the dark necklace. Should you choose to opt
Speaker 1: in for interactivity, which tells the actors, you can be touched,
Speaker 1: you can be pulled away from your group, you can
Speaker 1: be locked in a room. You can you know you're interactive.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wear the necklace. If you don't
Speaker 1: wear the necklace, you won't be touched with morbid morg.
Speaker 1: Everyone has to sign a release of live and you
Speaker 1: will be touched, shocked, prodded, a bag put over your head,
Speaker 1: you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Wait, but what is the real haunted history of that place.
Speaker 1: Well, the real deal is that when the earthquake happened
Speaker 1: in nineteen oh six, it was so devastating for that
Speaker 1: part of San Francisco that the city was sort of
Speaker 1: crumbling and on fire. Well not sort of, it was.
Speaker 1: I mean it just looks like you see these pictures,
Speaker 1: these old ancient photographs, and like just just ruins, you know.
Speaker 1: But the mint was still standing. It was built intentionally
Speaker 1: on granite so that they could have these secure underground
Speaker 1: vaults for the At the time, it held a third
Speaker 1: of the country's gold, So it was a big important space.
Speaker 1: And the people that were inside the mint locked themselves
Speaker 1: in because they could do that. They could put these
Speaker 1: metal shutters over the windows because it was it had
Speaker 1: to be fortified, you know, it held all that money.
Speaker 1: So they did that, and they had water inside, they
Speaker 1: had a natural well, and so they were able to
Speaker 1: survive while people were pounding on the walls, screaming and
Speaker 1: burning to death outside. So the idea is that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of unrest there, you know, both from the
Speaker 1: people that died inside or you know, maybe have guilt
Speaker 1: around locking themselves in and surviving while people died outside.
Speaker 1: So you know, they have a lot of ghost hunters
Speaker 1: have gone through the mint and described the ghosts, you know,
Speaker 1: from being from that time.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's so much haunted activity in San Francisco. I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 1: It's a very haunted city. You know, it's foggy, it's spooky,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, and it's filled with you know, historically just
Speaker 1: the craziest characters.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Well you're my favorite crazy character. Tell people
Speaker 2: where they can find you.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on you know all the social media, you know, Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 1: TWI just look up Peaches Christ Vpeaches Christ on Instagram
Speaker 1: and peacheschrist dot com is another place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, follow her, and if you find out that one
Speaker 2: of her shows is coming to your town, it is
Speaker 2: worth every second. Go Well, thank you for listening to
Speaker 2: this fabulous interview with Peaches christ. I hope to bring
Speaker 2: some more drag queens on here. I've actually had a
Speaker 2: couple of people send me some messages saying, hey, where
Speaker 2: are the drag queen's at? And I know I know
Speaker 2: a lot of them, and a couple of them have
Speaker 2: some spooky old stories, so stay tuned for that. I
Speaker 2: so appreciate you guys listening. This has been so much fun.
Speaker 2: We've done a few of these episodes so far, and
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Speaker 1: Hey b