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Speaker 2: It's spooky and you keep I'm pretty sure it's dead.

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Speaker 2: Kid's coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, hal said.

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Speaker 2: Hyros dresss e police, Hey boo, it's your girl, ros

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Speaker 2: Dress fales Hi. I have been all over the country

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Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks, having the time of my

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Speaker 2: life with our guest today, Peaches christ and I actually

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Speaker 2: spent a couple of days in northern California, and of course,

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Speaker 2: like always, I'm saying to all the local folks, hey,

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Speaker 2: where's where's the ghost spots? Where can I go to

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Speaker 2: find some ghosts? And everyone's like, you gotta go to

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Speaker 2: the Winchester Mystery House.

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Speaker 1: Did I know?

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Speaker 2: Because I didn't have a car and I didn't feel

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Speaker 2: like for a lift all the way out there. But

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about it, the Winchester Mystery House.

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Speaker 1: Have you been there?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of our listeners has and they actually sent

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Speaker 2: me this fabulous review and they included a story about

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Speaker 2: the Winchester Mystery House. And you can also tell me

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Speaker 2: your ghost stories for me to read on the air,

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Speaker 2: simply by writing them in a review a five star

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Speaker 2: review on Apple Podcasts, or you could actually send me

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Speaker 2: an email as well at ghostedbyras at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: This one comes from Sharon Hurt. I was taking a

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Speaker 2: tour of the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, California.

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Speaker 2: We were in the carriage hallway at the backsteps of

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Speaker 2: the original farmhouse. I was at the back of the

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Speaker 2: tour group, and suddenly I got that feeling you get

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Speaker 2: but not touching. Oh do I know that, well, Gonnie.

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Speaker 2: I looked over my shoulder and I saw a man

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Speaker 2: about five foot six with dark hair and a mustache. Hmm, okay,

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Speaker 2: could be my type. I don't know. He met my

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Speaker 2: eyes and smiled at me. Ooh girl, he was trying

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Speaker 2: to share with you. I smiled back and moved a

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Speaker 2: step away from him because I thought he was part

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Speaker 2: to see better. When I looked back at him, he

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Speaker 2: been several reports of people seeing workmen who apparently died

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Speaker 2: while working on the house. Okay, so what is the

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Speaker 2: Winchester Mystery House. It's why I haven't been but it

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Speaker 2: looks so cool according to the Internet, and I've heard

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen that started Helen Mirren as Sarah Winchester.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's worth the watch. I

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Speaker 2: looked it up on Google and it had like an

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Speaker 2: So the story starts in ps. I went to Prairie

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Speaker 2: Ghost dot com, which is a great resource, and this

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Speaker 2: is what they told me. Starts out with Sarah Pardi

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Speaker 2: from New Haven, Connecticut. She was four foot ten. She

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Speaker 2: I didn't say that, but it just seemed like it

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Speaker 2: at the same time in New Haven, William worked. Winchester

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Speaker 2: that that had that created the gun with the volcanic repeater,

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Speaker 2: They eventually developed the Henry rifle, which was the first

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Speaker 2: For the next thirty six years, she built and rebuilt,

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Speaker 2: they've made some appearances in recent times. Now this house

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Speaker 2: To ensure that the house was never finished, because again, remember,

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Speaker 2: Because you have to remember, if she ever stopped building

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Speaker 2: in her sleep. The house was sold to investors for

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Speaker 2: a tourist destination. It is now officially a historical landmark

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Speaker 2: Who knows? Many psychics say yes, there are some of

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Speaker 2: the spirits still lurking around. Visitors and employees have reported footsteps,

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Speaker 2: horror story tropes that happen in haunted houses. I would

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Speaker 2: love it if you would visit the Winchester Mystery House,

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Speaker 2: or maybe you have tell me, tell me about your experience.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it. But since we are doing

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Speaker 2: on over to my favorite spooky historical landmark of Northern California.

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Speaker 2: Beatus christ You guys, I just got back to Los

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Speaker 2: She is truly a legendary queen of San Francisco and beyond.

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Speaker 2: She is a director, a writer. She even has her

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Speaker 1: You Peaches christ Ah.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Ross.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, there's a long time no see.

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Speaker 1: I know, right.

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Speaker 2: We've literally been in airports and ubers, hotels, hotels, old theaters.

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Speaker 2: doing the show called Mean Gays, which is super cool

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Speaker 2: because if you're not familiar with Peaches, what Peaches geniusly

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Speaker 2: does is she parodies cult films. What was the first

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Speaker 1: Oh? God, I mean the first I guess this all

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Speaker 1: started with my midnight mass movie series where we actually

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Speaker 2: The performance based on the movie.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, So the first film we ever screened back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight with a performance was Faster Pussycat,

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Speaker 2: I love that movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so good, and we did like an opening number

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Speaker 1: we actually got to invite and work with Turis Atana.

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Speaker 2: I love her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was amazing.

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Speaker 2: And that movie is so so many good quotes, Like

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Speaker 2: every line is like a quote. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you ever wanted to see

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Speaker 1: something that truly inspired John Waters, check out that film.

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Speaker 1: You know, you really see where a lot of his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're such a horror horror queen.

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Speaker 1: I love horror.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you've even directed your own horror film

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Speaker 2: All about Evil, which I love. Where can people find that?

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Speaker 1: Well, right now, it's kind of out of print and

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Speaker 1: so they're going online. The international versions are available. We're

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Speaker 1: hoping that with a ten year anniversary, we're going to

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Speaker 2: You know, why do you in your do you have

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Speaker 2: we're seeing, right, I think it could kind of fill

435
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: your mind. I also think that like theaters where people perform,

436
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: there's just so many traumatic people that live there and

437
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: then they die and then they're just like I still

438
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: want to put on a show.

439
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think maybe in general

440
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: we walk through the world with kind of blinders on

441
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: to this other world, but when we're open to it

442
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: or we're looking for it, you know, we might be

443
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: able to sense its presence more. And I think in

444
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: old cinema's, old buildings, things that look creepy, we tend

445
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: to open our minds more to what might be there,

446
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: whereas in general maybe we're always surrounded by ghosts. But

447
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: I really we are, right, but we're not maybe looking

448
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: for it or it was open to it or yeah.

449
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: Well, plus, you know, those places attract creative people who

450
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: have creative minds, who are usually the ones or often

451
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: the kind of people that believe that there could be

452
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: more than what we see in this world. Right, you know.

453
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: That's why I mean, that's why so many in my

454
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 2: in my opinion, why so many creatives do you have

455
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: ghost experiences Because we're naturally curious people were naturally people

456
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: that believe the impossible as possible.

457
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do have another ghost story that's

458
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: a little more recent really, that's not in a theater

459
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: or a cinema. So I cause I've been I've been

460
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: thinking about all these things before coming on your fabulous podcast. Uh. So,

461
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: I lived in Provincetown are the last few summers doing shows,

462
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: and not this past summer, but the summer before. My

463
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: roommate was Trixie Mattel, world famous track queen now as

464
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: she was world famous when we lived together. But she

465
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: and I lived in this apartment building kind of a

466
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: cottage off Conwell, which is one of the big streets

467
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: in Province down not the main street that's commercial street,

468
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: but Conwell is also a street that people know because

469
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: it kind of bisects the town. And so we lived

470
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: there and we talked about whether or not it was

471
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: haunted and whether or not we you know, felt anything, and.

472
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: Just did you have a reason to or you're just

473
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: I think we did.

474
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: I think we did, but we didn't know it and

475
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: you know, kind of checked in with each other. But

476
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: I think she and I are kind of similar where

477
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: we're not like afraid of ghosts or anything like. So

478
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be more like like, you know, do

479
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: you feel like this is a good press like that

480
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: there's a sense of a good spirit here. Now at

481
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: the time, we noticed there was an abnormal amount of

482
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: these lamps that are made out of salt, like do

483
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: you know these salt rocks that like the big hunk

484
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: of Yes, there were like four in every room like

485
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: and we couldn't figure it out as like the lesbian

486
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: homeowners or are there like some spirits that need to

487
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: be in There was sage everywhere, and so again something

488
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: to lead you to believe like hmm, I don't know.

489
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: And I did feel like a little spooked out being there,

490
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: like there was the reasons, especially if you were there

491
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: at night, like you felt like you weren't alone, like

492
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: it was. It was a very clear feeling. So I

493
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't think about it, right. So that's two summers ago,

494
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't think about it for a while, And

495
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: then last summer these friends of ours, another artist who

496
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: was living in Province down doing shows. They were living

497
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: in the same house and one of them thought it

498
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: was haunted and wanted to talk to me and Tricksy

499
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: because he knew that we had lived there. Well. His

500
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: roommate had told me that he thought helt this way.

501
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: So like the giant jerk that I am, I prefaced

502
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: I pretend I played dumb, and then when I ran

503
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: into him, I said, I have a really weird question

504
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: for you, but you know, you're living in that house,

505
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: like have you experienced anything strange? And you know, his

506
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: whole face like just you know, he went wide eyed.

507
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, I can't believe it. Yes,

508
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, And I was, you know, sort of leading

509
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: him on in a way that I thought was fun.

510
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, you know, have they started

511
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: grabbing your feet yet, you know, stuff like that, have

512
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: the nosebleeds begun the eating exactly? So so the laughs

513
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: on me because I tell him like, oh no, I'm

514
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: just kidding. You know, Tricksy and I we never experienced

515
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: anything that intense, but we did kind of think it

516
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: was haunted, you know. And I was expecting him to

517
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: maybe be mad at me because I realized while I

518
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: was talking to him how much he believed and was serious,

519
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, like he was so serious. So the summer

520
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: goes on and we're talking to more and more people

521
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: about this, and now there's this story about me being

522
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, the practical joker who led him on or whatever,

523
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: and finally someone goes, well, you know, someone was murdered

524
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: there and we're like what and and sure enough we

525
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: research it and not in the unit we were in,

526
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: but right next doors. They're all connected.

527
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

528
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: Is this kind of famous murder that took place in

529
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: Provincetown where these tweakers were, you know, like hooking up

530
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: and on a meth bender and the one that lived

531
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: murdered the other one.

532
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, chopped off.

533
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: His arms, stuffed him in a closet, continued to have

534
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: tricks over while the dead.

535
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: Body like a full on party in play.

536
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a full on, like tweaker psychosis. People

537
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: were still living in other parts of the building because

538
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: that unit had multiple floors with different apartments in it.

539
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: But the dead body stayed in there the whole time.

540
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, for days, for days. Yeah, horrible. And there's like

541
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: a weird documentary that you can watch about it on YouTube.

542
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: So I watched the whole thing and then I felt

543
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: so terrible because I realized, like, not only is our

544
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: place probably haunted. When you watch the doc you realize

545
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: that the guy that got killed was in love with

546
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: the other one, but that the murderer was just using

547
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: that guy for the drugs. You know, that kind of thing.

548
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: So you feel like there's this real, like tragic part

549
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: of it where not only was he murdered by this guy,

550
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: but he had emotional and romantic feelings for him and

551
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: he was being used and then ended up being murdered

552
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: by this guy.

553
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: So looking back, you feel like that's you could totally

554
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: feel that energy.

555
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: I do. I feel like I don't think it's a

556
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: coincidence that me and Tricksy sort of felt something and

557
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: then that this guy, he's probably much further along. I

558
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: feel like, two, we all have different sort of wavelengths

559
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: with the spirit world, and you know, this guy, I

560
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: think was more open to it. And just this this

561
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: also too. He was if this this dead ghost is

562
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: you know gay guy? Well, this guy is extremely attractive,

563
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: so maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe

564
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: Tricksy and I weren't trade enough. Do you know what

565
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean?

566
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: That would be me as a ghost.

567
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, he'd be super horny.

568
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, Okay. You want to hear

569
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: a story from a listener?

570
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I've been ghosted too.

571
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: So I got a submission for a story from Gina

572
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: cp L. Now she left this story in the ratings

573
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: and reviews section of Ghosted by Ross dress Less on iTunes.

574
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: And you also can leave me a story there for

575
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: us to read on the air, but only if you

576
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: give me five stars. And luckily Gina did. Now she

577
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: actually has a story about Stull Cemetery And have you

578
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: heard about that? Okay, we had on a comedian named

579
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: Kyle Errs who had an experience at Stoll Cemetery. It

580
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: is located in Stoll, Kansas. It is terrifying. Peaches the episode.

581
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: I was so scared when we were in here. It

582
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: was the first episode I've done where I was like,

583
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: I think I need to take a moment to stop

584
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: this because it was so scary. Because it is this

585
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: they call it a gateway to Hell. It's this old

586
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: cemetery where tons of creepy shit happens. There's apparently stairs

587
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: that lead to hell. There is an old church that

588
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: doesn't have a roof and if it rains, it somehow

589
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: doesn't get wet inside of the church. Just weird, trippy shit. Yeah,

590
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: we also had some EVPs. So for anyone that's listening

591
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: that hasn't heard that episode about Stoll Cemetery the Gateway

592
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: to Hell, listen to the episode with Kyle Air, so

593
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Gina had sent me this. She said a little bit

594
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: more about Stall. I went to college near Stoll, Kansas.

595
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: A dear friend of mine and I attempted to go

596
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: there once and were deterred by a strange sighting as

597
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: we approached the cemetery. But that's neither here nor there,

598
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: and that's not a very exciting story to tell. Okay, jeez, Gina,

599
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: I heard so many creepy little tidbits about Stull throughout

600
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: my time living in Lawrence, Kansas. My favorite Stole story

601
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 2: has to do with the hidden steps that descend into hell.

602
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: While at a party, some guy was talking and she

603
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: wrote in parentheses loudly about his Stole adventure. He claimed

604
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: that he and his friends had found the steps. He

605
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: described a small number of stone steps descending into the earth.

606
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: They decided to walk down just a few steps. What

607
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: could possibly grow wrong? She also wrote in parentheses. I

608
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: love that she wrote her own color commentary because she

609
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: knew I was going to do that anyway. But when

610
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: one friend turned around to look back toward the entrance,

611
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: it was as if they had descended fifty steps. Understandably

612
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: freaked out, he yelled, everyone else saw what was happening

613
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: and they got out of there.

614
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh that's so crazy. I love that concept, or

615
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: just that they would start running up the stairs but

616
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: it wouldn't move like an escalator. That's you know, just

617
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: you weren't getting further.

618
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a step a StairMaster.

619
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that is my hell.

620
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: That is my hell being on a StairMaster. So I

621
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: also want to play a little game of EVP or

622
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: ev plicse wanted to make this a Peaches Christ edition. Okay,

623
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: so I've got some I've got my first EVP from

624
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: your home state of Maryland's ah okay.

625
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know how you were going to make it

626
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: a Peaches I was like, are they sassy?

627
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gossip.

628
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: Bid Rob stops spreading rumors. She is like trying to

629
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: spread it around that Peaches Christ is a gossip You

630
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: know what. Stop trying to make that happen. You're not

631
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: going to make it happen.

632
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: My favorite thing about Peaches is that she's very gossipy.

633
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: But she wanted to gossip about the fact that I

634
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: keep saying she's a gossip true story.

635
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: It does annoy me though, that you won't tell me

636
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: things what do you mean? Like, you're like, well, one queen,

637
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and then I'm like too, and you're like,

638
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: I can't tell you peaches.

639
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: No, Well that is true, but yeah, listen, you have

640
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: to understand you.

641
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: Admittedly, I love to share stories and I love to

642
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: hear them, and actually I admit that I even kind

643
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: of falsify them.

644
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's see. I like that about you, that you

645
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: can admit that I take people's stories and that make

646
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: them better.

647
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I do.

648
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: I do. Okay, Well, let's see if you can make

649
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: this better. Okay, here's an EVP that is from It's

650
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: from Maryland. It was posted onto YouTube by Paranormal or

651
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: not by Maryland Paranormal Research, that's their name. It was

652
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: taken at a private residence in Arnold, Maryland. Oh.

653
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I know Arnold very well. It's very close to where

654
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: I grew up.

655
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: Okay. It was recorded in twenty eleven. It starts by

656
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: hearing somebody. You hear someone say the words say something,

657
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: and then you hear a spirit. Now, I will say,

658
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: to be fair, I did edit the spirit's voice a

659
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 2: little bit louder, so it has a slight robotic sound.

660
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: To it, but because it was kind of a whisper.

661
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: But here it is. Tell me what you think it says,

662
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: say something?

663
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: What very brief.

664
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: We'll hear it a few times. I listen, this is

665
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: the I was.

666
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't find very many parents.

667
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: I know.

668
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: It has a little bit of a robot sound.

669
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah it does. And that's that's my fault because I was.

670
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: I was very quiet. So I've made letter. Okay, we go.

671
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: But you can hear like a.

672
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I hear like a breath, like what I don't

673
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: know where?

674
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: Okay, was it was it? He says, say something? Was

675
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 2: it a okay? B He goes say something and it goes,

676
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm giving up on you. Do you know that's not no?

677
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: Was it c I'm here or d something? You know,

678
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: like those of not just say something something. It's like

679
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: when you're a student and you go can I go

680
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and the teacher goes, I don't know,

681
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: can you that same kind of a ghost?

682
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Yes, No, it's not that. I guess I'm here.

683
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Say something.

684
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean that seems like I'm here might be the

685
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: closest to you.

686
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: You kind of hear it, Yeah it is, I'm here.

687
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: Listen say something.

688
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm here. It's a beach, it's a reach. I mean,

689
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they caught something. But I don't know

690
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: that you can necessarily tell what it's saying.

691
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Well, that's the fun of this game. It's just what

692
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: other people think that it says. Right, But I don't

693
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 2: doubt that. Yes, he does something.

694
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: I guess it's Evie. Please.

695
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 2: Well, I mean.

696
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. Is that Is that a Debbie Downer?

697
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: No, it's okay. Here's another one now, this one was

698
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: It's a really cool video I found that was posted

699
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: by Anthony Anderson. No relation to the actor from the

700
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: TV show Blackish or Kangaroo Jack. But his name is

701
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: Anthony Anderson and he recorded this, this whole video that

702
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: retells a ghost hunting adventure that he had at the

703
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: Market Street Theater in San Francisco.

704
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: I know that theater well.

705
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: And you know of its haunted.

706
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's considered one of the most haunted sites in

707
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: the city.

708
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. He says that some of the ghosts there are

709
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: a mysterious lady in white that performs on stage, caretaker

710
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: Gary who died of heart failure in the basement, and

711
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: mysterious JJ, who's also in the basement. Okay, so here's

712
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: another one, real brief, tell me what you think it says.

713
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: Run, it's a good.

714
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: Guess here it's one of these four options.

715
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I actually wait for you to get the options.

716
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: Is it a hunty, B, clumsy see or d whatever?

717
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: In due predictability? The Milkman, the Baby Book. That's the

718
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: full house theme song. That's what I think of when

719
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: I think of San Francisco.

720
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Right right, right, Okay, hmm, I guess I guess of

721
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: the those options, I'd say clumsy.

722
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: It is clumsy, it is. Okay, let's hear another.

723
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: Who decides what it is?

724
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: Anthony Anderson.

725
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so the YouTube, the recordists they say, this is

726
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: what this ghost is saying. Yeah, okay, I don't.

727
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: Ever like to play EVP, EVPs or ev please if

728
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: they say I think they might have said this.

729
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: This is what they said.

730
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So wait, let's hear another. We know it's clumsy.

731
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: Hm. Well, I mean I will say this, considering the

732
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: stories that have come out of the Market Street Cinema.

733
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, in San Francisco, you've got the Castro Theater

734
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: where we do a lot with all my shows, everyone

735
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: says it's not haunted. That's not true.

736
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I guess I talked to the rump.

737
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: You can talk to different staff members, especially over the years.

738
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: There was a long time in the eighties and nineties,

739
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: and maybe ghosts come and go, you know what I mean.

740
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: But there were many many employees at one time who

741
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: would claim a very similar story where when they would

742
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: open the balcony, which they don't do very often anymore,

743
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: but you know, for my shows they do. They used

744
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: to keep the balcony and the orchestra open for any screening,

745
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: and it was like less of an event space and

746
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: more like a repertory cinema, and they'd sell tickets and

747
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: some people would go upstairs and there was an usher

748
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: who would go and tell people, I'm sorry, but the

749
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: balcony is closed. And the people would come downstairs and

750
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: complain like, well, then why didn't you put the stanchions

751
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: out or why didn't you tell us? And then the

752
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: staff downstairs would be like, there's no one up there.

753
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: We don't have an usher, and we certainly don't have

754
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: an usher wearing an old usher uniform. Apparently he was

755
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: an old queen, you know, like this older gay man

756
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: who'd be like, I'm sorry, but the balcony is closed,

757
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: and so enough people had that customer complaint over the

758
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: years was usually customers who saw the ghost, not the employees.

759
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: I love the idea of an old queen ghost, right.

760
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Isn't it fabulous?

761
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know?

762
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: And who knows? I mean, you know part of Vito

763
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: Russo's ashes are stuffed into the wall at the Castro.

764
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: Is that true?

765
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: That is true? Yes?

766
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh I never heard that.

767
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, check out that Jeffrey Schwartz documentary veto Yeah, that's

768
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: so fabulous and they talk about how uh that Wait

769
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: did they talk about it in the documentary? Or I

770
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: might have heard that from Alan Sawyer, who's this fantastic

771
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: sort of local historian who was a manager of the

772
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Castro for years and years. Of course, I'm obsessed with

773
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: all this sort of history, and I used to have

774
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: a storytelling show and podcast in San Francisco and we

775
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: did a show about old theaters, and I'm pretty sure

776
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: Alan talked about how Vito's I think it's both. I

777
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: think both the film and Alan have talked about how

778
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: Vito's ashes are in the wall, and they know where

779
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: they are. But I don't know where they are.

780
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Would you do that? No?

781
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean I I guess I probably would want to

782
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: be cremated, but I don't know if I want to

783
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: be in the wall at the Castro.

784
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: But you are like the queen of the Castro Theater.

785
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: I am, but uh and I love the Castro Theater.

786
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: It is such a grand You know.

787
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: What's funny is I think because I work there so

788
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: much and I don't go there as much anymore, you know,

789
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: for for recreational screenings and things, it's changed my sentiments

790
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: about it. I consider it my one of my worst places.

791
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: Kind of Yeah, So let's talk before we go about

792
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: where people can find you this October. Oh, well, talk

793
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: about haunted. So you know, last year I got a

794
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: real dream project to be manifested after many years of trying,

795
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: and so I created an immersive theater company with this company,

796
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Non Plus Ultra, and they activate old buildings usually owned

797
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: by the city that are sitting empty. And this friend

798
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: of mine, David Flower, who's a professional haunt production designer

799
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: and producer, we joined forces, all of us and opened

800
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: our first ever haunted attraction in San Francisco at the

801
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Old Mint Building, which is definitely haunted. That's like how

802
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: they have.

803
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: The Queen Mary one here, Yes, exactly, Yeah, because that

804
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: would be so scary to be like what is real

805
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: and what isn't. But that's a great little hook.

806
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: I actually think sometimes it's it's scarier sometimes for the

807
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: people who work on the project. Like We'd be going

808
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: down to start the show, and I'd be walking through,

809
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, the project, and some of it would be

810
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: very very dark, and you know, and of course the

811
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: actors sometimes are jerks to each other and you know,

812
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: get into their spots and pop out and you know,

813
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: but I would start to think like, oh my god,

814
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: that's an actor and then realize there's no actor there.

815
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Why was that thing moving or you know, where did

816
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: that come from?

817
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: I love the idea of an attracted haunted attraction in theory. Yeah,

818
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't like to go through that stuff.

819
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: I think you'd like ours because I wrote a whole script.

820
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: It was a story. It was you know, like there

821
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: was there was a you know, it was part escape room.

822
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, the audience was very much a character in

823
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: the show. You know. It wasn't like you walked through

824
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: and you were passively observing it. You actually were engaged

825
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: by the actors.

826
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: I like that whole experience, yeah, situation. And you you

827
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: also made a few appearances, you said.

828
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: Right, my god, last year I was in every single show,

829
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: which I'll never do that again because that was just

830
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: too much. But I learned so much. I didn't realize

831
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: how hard it would be to do thirty eight shows

832
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: a night as Peaches and come down in an elevator,

833
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, and do the same scene over and over

834
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: and over again where I summoned Baphamet.

835
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 2: So what is the concept this year, Well, so it's

836
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: still the same.

837
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Terror Vault is all about the fact that the Mint

838
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: building was secretly used by the city as a prison.

839
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: They did a deal with the federal government after the

840
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: nineteen oh six earthquake before Alcatraz was opened in the

841
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: late thirties, where they were using the vaults to lock

842
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: up the city's worst criminals because they really didn't have

843
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: enough jails and the city was overrun with criminals. Now,

844
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: all of that is true, except for the notion that

845
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: the Mint was ever used as a prison. It was not.

846
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: I made that up. Okay, So the plot is still

847
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: the same. You sort of show up and you go

848
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: on this museum tour, and then you find out that

849
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: when Alcatraz was opened, instead of moving the prisoners to

850
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: the island, they just sealed the vaults and walked away.

851
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: Now we're going to take you downstairs and all hell

852
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: breaks loose. So it's the same plot, except that you're

853
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: going to meet all new prisoners. You know. So last year,

854
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, you met Ignatius Shelby, who was a serial

855
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: killer tax dermist who was fusing humans and Pacific heights

856
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: to animal you know, creatures and making new breeds of things,

857
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: And is that real? No? Okay, you know I made

858
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: it all up. There was a killer clown, turn of

859
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: the century clown who huffed poisonous gas called poppy. There

860
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: was oh, there was a lot of Catholicism, of course,

861
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: you know, there was a whole Satan thing, you know.

862
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: So I created these characters, and you learn about the

863
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: characters ahead of time as part of the exposition of

864
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: the show, so that when you're going through and you're

865
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: walking into these different vaults, and the vaults become these

866
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: worlds of these people, you understand the storyline behind them

867
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: and what they're doing. So this year, I don't want

868
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: to give too much away. But yeah, it's all new

869
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: settings and all new characters, and then we have a

870
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: whole other attraction. What's that, the Morbid Morgue. Because we

871
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: heard from enough people. We did very well last year

872
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: where we were turning people away for the last couple

873
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: of weeks, So instead of trying to cram more people through,

874
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: we're just designing a whole other show so that we'll

875
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: have two shows and you can go to both shows,

876
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: but just you know, so that we can you know, really,

877
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: i mean, let's face it, make as much money as

878
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: we can in one month with these pop ups because

879
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: we have the whole building. It's massive, it's huge, it's important,

880
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: it's historical. So if there's enough people that can support

881
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: two shows, So the Morbid morgu is going to be

882
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: more of a if Terror Vault's more of a fantastical show,

883
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: full of fantasy because you go into these these worlds,

884
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: these horror worlds, Morbid morg is more like the gritty

885
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: reality of what it would be like to be in

886
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: a prison there and you will be going in and

887
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: has met suits to clean it up?

888
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: And are they allowed to touch you?

889
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: Yes? Well, in Terror Vault, you wear a necklace a

890
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: glow in the dark necklace. Should you choose to opt

891
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: in for interactivity, which tells the actors, you can be touched,

892
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: you can be pulled away from your group, you can

893
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: be locked in a room. You can you know you're interactive.

894
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: You don't have to wear the necklace. If you don't

895
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: wear the necklace, you won't be touched with morbid morg.

896
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: Everyone has to sign a release of live and you

897
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: will be touched, shocked, prodded, a bag put over your head,

898
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: you know whatever.

899
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 2: Wait, but what is the real haunted history of that place.

900
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: Well, the real deal is that when the earthquake happened

901
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: in nineteen oh six, it was so devastating for that

902
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: part of San Francisco that the city was sort of

903
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: crumbling and on fire. Well not sort of, it was.

904
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean it just looks like you see these pictures,

905
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: these old ancient photographs, and like just just ruins, you know.

906
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: But the mint was still standing. It was built intentionally

907
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: on granite so that they could have these secure underground

908
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: vaults for the At the time, it held a third

909
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: of the country's gold, So it was a big important space.

910
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: And the people that were inside the mint locked themselves

911
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: in because they could do that. They could put these

912
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: metal shutters over the windows because it was it had

913
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: to be fortified, you know, it held all that money.

914
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: So they did that, and they had water inside, they

915
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: had a natural well, and so they were able to

916
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: survive while people were pounding on the walls, screaming and

917
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: burning to death outside. So the idea is that there's

918
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: a lot of unrest there, you know, both from the

919
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: people that died inside or you know, maybe have guilt

920
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: around locking themselves in and surviving while people died outside.

921
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: So you know, they have a lot of ghost hunters

922
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: have gone through the mint and described the ghosts, you know,

923
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: from being from that time.

924
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: Oh, there's so much haunted activity in San Francisco. I

925
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: love it.

926
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: It's a very haunted city. You know, it's foggy, it's spooky,

927
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: it's yeah, and it's filled with you know, historically just

928
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: the craziest characters.

929
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Well you're my favorite crazy character. Tell people

930
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: where they can find you.

931
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on you know all the social media, you know, Instagram, Facebook,

932
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: TWI just look up Peaches Christ Vpeaches Christ on Instagram

933
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: and peacheschrist dot com is another place.

934
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, follow her, and if you find out that one

935
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: of her shows is coming to your town, it is

936
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: worth every second. Go Well, thank you for listening to

937
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: this fabulous interview with Peaches christ. I hope to bring

938
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: some more drag queens on here. I've actually had a

939
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: couple of people send me some messages saying, hey, where

940
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: are the drag queen's at? And I know I know

941
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: a lot of them, and a couple of them have

942
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: some spooky old stories, so stay tuned for that. I

943
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: so appreciate you guys listening. This has been so much fun.

944
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: We've done a few of these episodes so far, and

945
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: I am just thrilled and just so honored that so

946
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: many people are listening. If you are enjoying the show,

947
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: please give me a five star rating on Apple Podcasts

948
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: and everywhere that podcasts are able to be rated. If

949
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: you have a ghost story, please leave it in your

950
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: five star review on Apple Podcasts, or if it's a

951
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: real long one, you can send it to ghosted by

952
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Raz at gmail dot com. Maybe you're a ghost hunter

953
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: and you have some EVPs that you want me to

954
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: figure out what they're saying.

955
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: Send those also to.

956
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: Me at ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com. Please

957
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: help my childhood dream come true of becoming a social

958
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: media superstar by following me at Raz Dress Flees on

959
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 2: Instagram and Twitter, and tell a friend about the show

960
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: so we can continue to grow. I'll be back next week.

961
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: I love you all, but as always, if I didn't

962
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 1: Hey b