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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Buck Brief. On this episode, we've got our

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Speaker 2: friend John Cardillo back in the mix. He is formerly

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Speaker 2: the NYPD's conservative commentator. He's an entrepreneur. John has dove

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Speaker 2: right into it. You, if I may say, knew very

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Speaker 2: early on about the second assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: You know, you said you didn't tell everybody to go

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Speaker 2: out with the early details, but you had the details

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Speaker 2: before anybody else that I know of in the entirety

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Speaker 2: of the media, and got all of them right. So

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Speaker 2: everything that you were hearing before it was reported anywhere

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Speaker 2: was accurate. Let's just start with this from a security standpoint,

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Speaker 2: I had to say, look, at least this time shots

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Speaker 2: didn't get fired at the president didn't get hit, and

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Speaker 2: they and the Secret Service seemed to fire a lot

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Speaker 2: faster than they did in Butler, Pennsylvania. But I mean

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Speaker 2: that was Butler was basically catastrophic failure. They just got

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Speaker 2: lucky the president wasn't killed. Right in this case, how

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Speaker 2: do you assess the security, what went down, failures, things

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Speaker 2: they did right? Walk me through it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was getting my information from people in

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Speaker 3: the Sheriff's office. I've been down here in South Florida

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Speaker 3: twenty years, have a pretty good network of sources, and

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Speaker 3: I had told everybody, like you say, Buck initially, look

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Speaker 3: take this with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 1: I'm just hearing it. Let's let it unfold.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, people were asking me, let me kind

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Speaker 3: of delve into what I think has been the wrong

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Speaker 3: question being asked when we talk about some of the

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Speaker 3: shortcomings or how this bad guy was able to set

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Speaker 3: up for twelve hours. We're going to get back to that.

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Speaker 3: People said, well, how did he know Trump was golfing?

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Speaker 3: That's not really the question, because when you've been down

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Speaker 3: here in South Florida long enough, you realize whenever Trump

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Speaker 3: is at Mara a Lago, he's at that golf course

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Speaker 3: every Saturday and Sunday and some weekdays, that really becomes

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Speaker 3: his own I've actually had lunch there with him. I

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Speaker 3: was invited to lunch with him when he was president.

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Speaker 3: And that's where he does business on the golf course,

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Speaker 3: political business. He has friends and allies. Then he goes

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Speaker 3: into the sports bar area of the club and has brunch,

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Speaker 3: and again he holds meetings at tables there, one or

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Speaker 3: two tables that he puts together. So knowing he was there,

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Speaker 3: that's a no brainer. People line up on the roads

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Speaker 3: leading up to that golf club to wave flags and

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Speaker 3: to greet the motorcake. The bigger question is the more

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Speaker 3: important question, the question how was the bad guy able

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Speaker 3: to set up a sniper's hide on the property for

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Speaker 3: twelve hours? And I think that's where we need to

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Speaker 3: start analyzing the shortfall and the shortcomings. So we've heard

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Speaker 3: these statements from Rick Bradshaw, the Palm Beach County Sheriff

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Speaker 3: and Secret Service.

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Speaker 1: Well, because he's.

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Speaker 3: Only a candidate or a former president, he's not entitled

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Speaker 3: to the same level of protection we saw. Our good

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Speaker 3: buddy Dan Bongino, former Secrets has put out the Secret

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Speaker 3: Service treats this as it's called an OTR and off

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Speaker 3: the record event.

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Speaker 1: It's not a scheduled event.

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Speaker 3: Well that's kind of crazy, and I think that was

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Speaker 3: Dan's point as well, in that they know he's at

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Speaker 3: the club every weekend when he's in Florida. He was

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Speaker 3: shot in the head two months ago. Why are they

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Speaker 3: still treating this so casually? So that's the question. How

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Speaker 3: was this guy able to set up for twelve hours?

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Speaker 3: I mean buck canines? Where were the canines? Trump owns

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Speaker 3: large properties mar A Lago, the golf club, another golf

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Speaker 3: canine is incredibly effective and incredibly inexpensive. So it seems

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Speaker 3: to me the ball was dropped by law enforcement, especially

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Speaker 3: the Secret Service, because they have been sent in command

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Speaker 3: yet again and the results.

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Speaker 1: Again could have been deadly. Really, but for the grace

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Speaker 1: of God.

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Speaker 2: Now, the fact that the gunman was able to get

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Speaker 2: clarified it was four to six? Was it with a

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Speaker 2: side arm? Do we know at what distance? That's one

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Speaker 2: thing that I've never heard. Have we gotten any details?

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Speaker 3: Haven't seen you know, I've heard conflicting reports, anything from

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Speaker 1: I've consistently heard four rounds. But again, like you say,

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Speaker 1: six has been the narrative.

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Speaker 3: What I heard from law enforcement was anything head to

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Speaker 1: But you raised a good.

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Speaker 3: Point with your question where was pombe Sheriff's offices and

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Speaker 3: the Secret Services chase vehicles. Yes what your audience probably

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Speaker 3: doesn't know. Maybe they do, maybe some don't. The bad

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Speaker 3: guy was apprehended. Ruth was apprehended by Martin County sheriff

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Speaker 3: set up near the highway. He wasn't apprehended immediately after

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Speaker 3: fleeing the property. Now, for geographical reference, Martin County is

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Speaker 3: a fifteen to twenty minute drive from the club on

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Speaker 3: a good day without traffic, so pretty close by. Those

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Speaker 3: two agencies co ordinate quite a bit the border county

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Speaker 3: It wasn't Secret Service, it wasn't Pombee Sheriff. So a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like there's an obvious need for enhanced

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Speaker 2: security measures for Trump between now and election day. John, Well,

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Speaker 2: what do you think are the chances that actually happens.

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Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, people say, oh, he should

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Speaker 2: go private, he needs blackwater, and it's not called blackwater anymore,

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Speaker 2: but something along those lines. And my understanding is you're

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Speaker 2: not operating overseas in a war zone. So if you're

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Speaker 2: just going to try to go private, unless they're going

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Speaker 2: to be deputized by the FEDS or something, you're talking

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Speaker 2: about having to run through all kinds of hoops and laws.

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Speaker 2: You know, Secret Service can carry whatever they want, have

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Speaker 2: whatever tools they want, you know, your private security guys.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like that's not necessarily the answer. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Well, what Secret.

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Speaker 3: Service has said over the last couple of days is

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Speaker 3: now they're affording Donald Trump trump presidential level security, and

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Speaker 3: so he's going to have the same security had while

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Speaker 3: he was in office.

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Speaker 1: The other issue, so I'm not adverse to private.

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Speaker 3: Contractors, you know, former Tier one and two special operators

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Speaker 3: in a limited capacity at the private properties. But you

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Speaker 3: correctly point out federal agents can carry firearms anywhere in

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Speaker 3: the United States and there's there there are international compacts

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Speaker 3: where they're able to carry globally when they're with their protectee.

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Speaker 3: The private guys won't have that, they won't have those privileges.

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Speaker 3: The other thing they won't have is direct access. US

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Speaker 3: Secret Service has its own intelligence division, they have an

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Speaker 3: integrated communication system.

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Speaker 1: Those earbuds.

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Speaker 3: The private guys probably wouldn't be given access to that,

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Speaker 3: so as well trained as they might be, whatever their

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Speaker 3: lack of access to communications, intel and the ability to

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Speaker 2: And I mean going forward, I just I feel like

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Speaker 2: the Secret Service in all of this obviously has taken

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Speaker 2: a big repute hit. I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: I would say more a lot more for Butler than this.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Butler thing, because the video people say, hey,

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Speaker 2: look there's a shooter up there, and the most obvious

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Speaker 2: you know, in this case, they did. They did find

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Speaker 2: the guy before he was able to take shots. He

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Speaker 2: was there for twelve hours. But you know Trump wasn't

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Speaker 2: there at one am, So I don't you know, you can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we can expect security to be camped

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Speaker 2: although you know, I don't know what they're.

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Speaker 1: Going to be.

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Speaker 2: It's difficult, right because to your point about the West

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Speaker 2: Palm golf course, I mean this, I remember this from

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Speaker 2: from back in the CIA. Your most vulnerable when you're

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Speaker 2: when you can be analyzed by pattern, right, when you're

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Speaker 2: setting pattern exactly right, that's when that's when the bad

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Speaker 2: guys can set up on you. This is why a

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Speaker 2: lot of the time, people who know what they're doing

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Speaker 2: will go after people in the morning when they're groggy

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Speaker 2: and their routine is most consistent. Right. This is just

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Speaker 2: you know, if you read enough spy novels or whatever,

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Speaker 2: you'll see that's sure. People are moving slower doing what

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Speaker 2: they do, leaving at the same time time to get

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Speaker 2: to work, leaving it, you know. But the golf course

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Speaker 2: thing to treat this as as you mentioned are from

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Speaker 2: Bongino said, it's off the record movement. It's off the

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Speaker 2: record unless you're in the Florida area and everybody knows

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Speaker 2: that he goes there all the time, right, So I

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Speaker 2: do think they probably have to up the security there

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Speaker 2: going forward. You're saying they're going to give him presidential

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Speaker 2: level security, so maybe that that handles some of it,

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Speaker 2: but it just feels like, yeah, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Buck, you know, you raise a couple

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Speaker 3: of great points, right, so the presidential level security, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's going to certainly increase the size of the bubble

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Speaker 3: the proficiency will probably see more full time Secret Service

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Speaker 3: But let me say this, I still can't reconcile and

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Speaker 3: I can't excuse why nobody did an advance thorough perimeter

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Speaker 3: search before Trump arrived there. Now that said, Trump doesn't

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Speaker 3: is a creature of habit, right. He wants to guy.

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Speaker 3: I get it, it's his club, he's comfortable. I don't golf,

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Speaker 3: but people say it's an outstanding golf course. He owns

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Speaker 3: the place. I get why he wants to go there.

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Speaker 3: But he has set a rock solid pattern for a

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Speaker 3: bad guy to follow on the weekends.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't miss his motor cad. Right.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's time for him to start choppering in and out,

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Speaker 3: taking a helicopter in and out. But that said, why

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Speaker 3: those twelve hours an hour before he got there, a

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Speaker 3: half hour before That to me is another massive failure.

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Speaker 2: So, John, my feeling on the Trump Kamala showdown here

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Speaker 1: Here today, he should and I believe will win the election. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Kamalist strategy objectively from her campaign is don't let

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, well, Buck, I was raised a middle

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Speaker 2: You were unburdened by what has been John.

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Speaker 3: I was unburdened by what has been. I mean that

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Speaker 2: for you, John, I just think it's uh sure this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you said it best. I think you

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Speaker 1: Teach this for decades.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean it's it is the most sort

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Speaker 2: much better place. John Cardilla, everybody, John always good to

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Speaker 2: see you, man. And I'll be up in Fort Lauderdale soon.

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Speaker 1: We'll hang out absolutely, man, dinner's long overdue. Good to

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