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Speaker 1: was hit and miss in twenty twenty one, and if

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Speaker 1: first the Super Bowl, or as we're referring to it,

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Speaker 1: the Zach Kerr Revenge Game. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: Four days MG, four days from Super Bowl fifty six

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Speaker 1: and four days from the last football game. That's a

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Speaker 1: little troublesome, but hey, we've got the Bengals and the

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Speaker 1: Rams in Super Bowl fifty six. Let's touch on this

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Speaker 1: matchup and right out of the gate, were regardless of

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Speaker 1: what you have to say, and breaking down this matchup

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Speaker 1: you're knocking to sway my mind one bit right off

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Speaker 1: the top. Bengals all the way. Oh, I don't disagree

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Speaker 1: with you. At the end of the year though, you know,

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Speaker 1: the fourteen teams that make the playoffs, thirteen are gonna

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Speaker 1: end their season. Were the loss. Of course, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: were part of that early in the process of wild

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Speaker 1: and zero again. But I want to give the Rams credit. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: see I understand that. But that's why I can't root

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like they they went all in. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: five billion dollars for that stadium. Now we'll see how

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Speaker 1: sustainable it is. Obviously, Sean mcvay's making his second appearance

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Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl within the last four years. I

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Speaker 1: think he got a little tight when he played against Belichick.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's learned something from that. And obviously Zach

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people think he's like Joe Montana.

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Speaker 1: But as I mentioned on the Red Seat report, I

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Speaker 1: I hope it's a close game. I hope it's on

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Speaker 1: And you know, Matthew Stafford took him thirteen years to

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Speaker 1: do something, you know, we bring that Lombardi Trophy back

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Speaker 1: to Arizona and the Arizona Cardinals and then just say

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Speaker 1: thank you for all the Arizona Cardinals did for him

429
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Speaker 1: to give them him this opportunity to make sure you

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Speaker 1: don't want to see the other team's trophy in the

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Speaker 1: facility here. I wasn't saying back to Arizona, you know, Gays,

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Speaker 1: thank you. You know. Yeah, it's the least that he

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Speaker 1: can do. But I love it. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: those It's one of those little stories, those little nuggets

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Speaker 1: that you get during Super Bowl Week. And because we

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that Zach Kerr was signed by the Bengals, but

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Speaker 1: and then okay, that's that seemed like three years ago.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden here in mid February, like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Zach Kurt his team was bounced from the

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Speaker 1: playoffs by the Rams. Now he can be on the

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Speaker 1: team that bounces the Rams and makes their offseason miserable. Well,

442
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: he's got more more games than anybody on that roster. Well,

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00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: I gotta figure when he came back. But I know

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Speaker 1: he's played at least in maybe the Monday night game. Yeah, okay,

445
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: so he's got some history. Um, you know the Rams.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, Craig. It does Whitworth come back? And then

447
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: they got two free agents, I want to say their

448
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 1: center and maybe the right guard or how Yeah, they

449
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: got like three guys that possibly won't be back. And

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Speaker 1: of course if they win, it doesn't matter. They'll find

451
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Speaker 1: a way to put somebody in there. Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday proud partner of The Arrows on a

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Super Bowl fifty six Bengals and Rams coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday four thirty on NBC. And it's not a

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Speaker 1: joke as far as this Zach kerrstory is. I'm I

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00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: love it. It's it's the best parts of sports when

457
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Speaker 1: you have these little nuances, these little nuggets that you get.

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Speaker 1: And fine, with respect to the Cincinnati Bengals, and Zach

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00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: Kerr's a defensive tackle kind of leads us into our

460
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: conversation here talking about the Cardinals defensive line overall and

461
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: what they have on the roster and what they might

462
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Speaker 1: need moving forward because and again This is not solely

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Speaker 1: on the defensive line, but when you look at this

464
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: team's weakness defensively stopping the run, occasionally they were able

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Speaker 1: to do it some times, but more times than not,

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00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: especially late, there was a lot of leakage when it

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Speaker 1: came to stopping the run. Of the first line of defense,

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Speaker 1: is that defensive line. Yeah, and to me, when we're

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Speaker 1: going to go through the you know who's under contract

470
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. But there were flashes. There

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Speaker 1: was a game. It seemed like every game there was

472
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Speaker 1: one drive where they're getting gashed. But again, when you're

473
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Speaker 1: putting up four hundred yards and thirty points, it gets

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Speaker 1: overlooked and it didn't really come back to hunt him

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Speaker 1: until the second half of the season. You look at

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Speaker 1: what the running backs did that first half of the season.

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Speaker 1: Going into Week eight against the Green Bay Packers, we

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Speaker 1: were all surprised. I wasn't I was gonna say stunned,

479
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Speaker 1: but not stunn surprise on how well the Cardinals defended

480
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry Week one, seventeen carries fifty eight yards. Cardinals

481
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: got a lead, forcing Ryan Tannell to throw the football.

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Speaker 1: We know what happened there, but Dalvin Cook one hundred

483
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Speaker 1: and thirty one yards. Cardinals beat the Vikings. James Robinson

484
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Speaker 1: eight eight yards rushing, Cardinals beat the Jaguars. Darryl Henderson

485
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: eighty nine yards, Cardinals beat the Rams. Kareem Hunt sixty

486
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Speaker 1: six yards. Cardinals beat the Browns, So not a lot

487
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: of yards. Only Cook went over one hundred yards rushing,

488
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Speaker 1: but he only had thirty five in that second half.

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Speaker 1: So those first seven games, to your point, MJ, you're

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Speaker 1: scoring thirty points, four hundred yards of offense and the

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Speaker 1: rush defense wouldn't say overlooked, but we didn't pay a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention to it. And they're unbeaten on the

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Speaker 1: road to those little lions, and they're forcing like at

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Speaker 1: the end, I think at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: before even before the playoff game against the Rams, I

496
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Speaker 1: think they had twenty one turnovers, eighteen and the plus. Yeah,

497
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: but you go back to the Packers game, no DeVante Adams,

498
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: and they got gashed by AJ Dillon and Aaron Jones.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, I mean I think he caught seven passes

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Speaker 1: for like fifty four yards, fifty one fifty one yards,

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00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, So and again they still had a

502
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Speaker 1: chance to win at the end, Jones and Dylan combined

503
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: as far as rushing yards are concerned one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty seven. Now, neither went over that one hundred yard mark.

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Speaker 1: Jones did have over one hundred yards as far as

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Speaker 1: total yards with his receiving yards. And then after week

507
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Speaker 1: Gates that last back end of the regular season, Christian

508
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: McCaffrey ninety five yards, David Montgomery ninety yards, Sony Michelle

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Speaker 1: seventy nine yards, and then the final four games of

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Speaker 1: the regular season, and this is where we kind of

511
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Speaker 1: pinpoint not where things went wrong defensively, but the inability

512
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: to stop the run did not allow this Cardinals team

513
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Speaker 1: to kind of reset and get the defense off the

514
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Speaker 1: football field and Kyler Murray company on the football field

515
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Speaker 1: Craig Reynolds one hundred and twelve yards rushing, Jonathan Taylor

516
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight yards rushing. They did slow down

517
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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and the Cowboys, but then Week eighteen, Seattle

518
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny one hundred and ninety rushing yards. So four

519
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: times this season the Cardinals defense allowed a one hundred

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Speaker 1: yard rusher three times in the last four weeks of

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Speaker 1: the regular season. Yeah, there was leakage there and when

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Speaker 1: they were winning, they were playing couplementary football, and all

523
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Cardinals defense was given up these

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Speaker 1: big plays. So it was kind of pick your poison.

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Speaker 1: We talked about how it was last five games, how

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Speaker 1: many touchdowns they gave up and a lot of guys

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00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: were wide open, and coach talked about it, the Dans

528
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: talked about it. Just it couldn't stop the bleeding because

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Speaker 1: you know, people don't want to talk about it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, the Malcolm Butler, they signed him to be

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Speaker 1: a number one corner. He obviously didn't like the fact

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't getting reps. I'm assuming when they signed him,

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Speaker 1: he said, you're going to be a starter. But to me,

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Speaker 1: if if you have Malcolm Butler, and again I wasn't

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Speaker 1: bringing this up there in the season when I want,

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Speaker 1: if you want to take a deep dive and look

537
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: back at the season, well may you don't have to

538
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: play markol Wilson every single snap, and then you healthy

539
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Robert Alford. You got some veteran guys there and Murphy,

540
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: so you're not relying on a rookie. Even though he

541
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: looked apart in training camp, but he could have been

542
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Speaker 1: your slot guy. He could have been at your rotation

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00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: guy and said Antonio Hamilton or Borders. Yeah, but it

544
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: all starts up front. And when you're getting gash now,

545
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know it's third and one,

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Speaker 1: third and two. Yeah, they may run it, but you

547
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: can do a pop pass to where, hey, listen, we're

548
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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna move the chains here and put those

549
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: guys on their heels versus their toes. And again it

550
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: doesn't all point to the defensive line, but that's where

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00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: it starts. Point of attack, the line of scrimmage. You've

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00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: got to be able to stop a running back from

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00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: getting to the third level, hard to stop him from

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00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: getting to the second level, but keep them under five

555
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: yards to carry. And late in the season Cardinals defense

556
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: not doing that, which opens up the entire playbook for

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in the offense as far as we're looking

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00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: at third and four as opposed to third and eight plus. Yeah,

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00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to single these two guys out.

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00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: It was just when you look at Borders again, he

561
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: was he was brought on late, he was throwing in

562
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: the mix because of injuries, and he missed a call

563
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: and so that was the Tyler lock of touchdown. And

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00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: then you look at the Canard play. He took a

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00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: bad angle and Penny runs for what sixty two or

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Speaker 1: sixty eight yards? Sixty six yards? Okay, yeah, so he

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have had one hundred and ninety. I mean, that's

568
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Speaker 1: but that's ten guys doing their job. And again I'm

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Speaker 1: boarders to me, that was a lot to ask for

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Speaker 1: a guy that just got here. I mean, it's we

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Speaker 1: know that Chase Whittaker's on the roster because he's had

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Speaker 1: a ton of reps. We know Kevin Peterson's on the

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Speaker 1: roster because he's had a ton of reps. And that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. Next man up. Well didn't go well. Overall,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals ranked twentieth and rushing yards allowed per game

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00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: almost one hundred and fifteen yards per game, ninety nine

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Speaker 1: yards allowed in wins, one hundred and forty three yards

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00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: allowed and losses again not all on the defensive line,

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00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: but it points to being able to slow down an

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Speaker 1: opposing teams running game. Doesn't need to stop it, but

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Speaker 1: slow them down. So there is some predictability for Vance

582
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: Joseph to call what he wants to do. And be

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Speaker 1: aggressive on second and third down. Yeah, and Advance is

584
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: a big fan of first and second down. But if

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00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: they're sitting there, you know, a third in ten, well

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00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: it's a passing down. If they're sitting there a third

587
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: and two, they can do anything. They can throw a

588
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: slant pass, they can take you know, if let's say

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00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: they're at the you know, the forty to forty and

590
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna go for it on fourth down, two down territory,

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: they don't have to run it, and that's where you

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00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: have to get them on. You have to limit them

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00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: on first and second down. So now they're in third

594
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: and long where you can start teeing off and maybe

595
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: you could bring that NASCAR package in and then you

596
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: go do yards per play rushing yards per play allowed

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00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: four point six. That's not a strong number, twenty sixth

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00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: in the league, but it is identical to what this

599
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: defense finished a year ago. So four point six you're running,

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Speaker 1: that's you got half of the ten yards that you

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Speaker 1: need to gain a first down on the first play

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00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: of that particular series. So that's where you get into

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00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: winning on first down to set up being a little

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00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: bit more aggressive on third down. So yeah, we hear

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00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: it all the time each week. Stop the run, contain

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Speaker 1: the run to make that offense one dimensional. And in

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00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: the second half of the regular season, Cardinals did not

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00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: do that. No, and we're starting to see teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: probably throw the ball seventy percent of the time and

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Speaker 1: run it. Two things you gotta do. A you gotta

611
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: score points, but you gotta be able to defend the pass. Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean we talk about stopping the run, the way

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00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: these teams are spreading teams out, and the way the

614
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: quarterback positions, you know, with these young quarterbacks and these

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00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks like Stafford and you know Garoppolo when he

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00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: was in there, And yeah, stopping then runs great, but

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00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: you gotta get them off the field on third down.

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00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: But now it's become a passing league like seventy to

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Speaker 1: thirty and then you have to be able to defend

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Speaker 1: a pass. And based on our conversation the other day

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Speaker 1: about the defensive backs, they were given up a lot

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Speaker 1: of yards. Now you've got to stand here. It says

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Speaker 1: third few is rushing touchdowns. Well, I wonder how many

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Speaker 1: passing touchdowns they gave up. Gave up thirty passing touchdowns,

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00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: ten rushing touchdown, and they made some stops on the

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Speaker 1: goal line, and they forced some teams to kick field goals.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of those, a lot of those big

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Speaker 1: plays where the Tyler locket was a touchdown, the Penny

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Speaker 1: run was a touchdown. So it kind of and now

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00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: it was yeah, but thirty and during the season the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals were in the top five, they were given up

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Speaker 1: like maybe a hundred and sixty yards through the air,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't it was you can live with that

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Speaker 1: where you're And again if they were giving up one

635
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five yards on the ground, because you

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00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: look at the yards per carry, they were only giving

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00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: up like one fifteen to one twenty. So it wasn't

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00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: like it it was a nail in the coffin or

639
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: achilles heel. It was just they couldn't overcome it when

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Speaker 1: they fell down. Cardinals certainly fell behind, certainly need to

641
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: address defensive line. But let's take a look at what

642
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: they have that we know will be on the roster

643
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: for next season. Seven players under contract, two unrestricted free agents,

644
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: JJ Watt, Jordan Phillips, Zach Allen, Lucky Foe two or Chard,

645
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence Matt Dickerson signed a futures deal and Michael Dogby

646
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: a restricted free agent. I fully expect Dogby to be

647
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: on this roster next season. Those are the seven players

648
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: as we speak here in mid February that we know

649
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: because they're under contract. JJ Watt going into his second season,

650
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips going into his third season, Zach Allen, Lucky

651
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Foe two, or Chard Lawrence. Those three I think took

652
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: a step four this past season. Zach Allen a gigantic

653
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: leap compared to Foe two and Lawrence. But you do

654
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: want to see more from Foe too and Lawrence if

655
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: they're healthy. And that's been the issue with Rochard Lawrence.

656
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: He hasn't been able to stay healthy. No, he started

657
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: seven games, played in the eleven, miss six games with

658
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: a calf injury, same injury last year limited to nine games. Yeah,

659
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: and to me, he's got more upside than Lucky. He's

660
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: a guy that can play nose tackling, you can. You

661
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: can line him up as a defensive end and a

662
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: three to four and Lucky it is just a run stuffer.

663
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: That's what he is. Six five, three hundred and thirty

664
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: five pounds. As he pointed out played the second most

665
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: defensive staffs among linemen, and that's because he was able

666
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: to be active every single game. So we got to

667
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: get more out of Richard Lawrence. Jordan Phillips gave this

668
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: team a spark, but when I look at his first

669
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: two years here, I don't see how you bring him back,

670
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: And obviously they're gonna have to figure that out because

671
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: obviously they're gonna be some dead money involved. But I

672
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm already to move on from Jordan Phillips. I just

673
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to see more. And you know, Vans had him,

674
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: was in Miami with him. He had one good year

675
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. They had a really good defense. They had

676
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: some good linebackers there, obviously some good safeties. But I

677
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: needed more from Jordan Phillips. So we'll have to wait

678
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: and see what they decided to do with him. Being

679
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: healthy certainly kept Jordan Phillips out a lot of people's minds,

680
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: just because this past season, I mean, he was m

681
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I a start of the year on ir with a

682
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: back injury, into the season with a knee injury, although

683
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: he did play in the postseason, but nine games in

684
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: each of his first two seasons with the Cardinals, and

685
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: in those two seasons, five sacks, thirty three tackles, four

686
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: tackles for lost, seven quarterback hits. You compare that to

687
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: his twenty nineteen season with the Bills contract year going

688
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: into free agency, ding Ding Ding nine and a half sacks,

689
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: thirty one tackles, thirteen tackles for lost, sixteen quarterback hits.

690
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: And I remember the conversation when the Cardinals signed Jordan Phillips.

691
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: You look at that number, nine and a half sacks,

692
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: most sacks for an interior defensive lineman outside of Aaron Donald,

693
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, Wow, there's that press you're up the middle.

694
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: We just haven't seen it in two seasons here with

695
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Yeah, I mean those are Aaron Donald numbers

696
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: right there. I mean you can probably more tackle for

697
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: losses just because he's in the back for more quarterback hits.

698
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: But from an interior alignment, to get nine and a

699
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: half sacks that that's not sustainable. But getting tackles for

700
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: losses affecting the quarterback that can be sustainable. That I

701
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: think Cardinals were expecting to me if he was healthy.

702
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a huge guy. He wears number ninety

703
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: seventies huge to me, that would have opened up things

704
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: for JJ Watt Zach Allen, even you're outside rushers, because

705
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he could push the pilot. He's got long arms,

706
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: he's got it. He's huge. I mean he's six six

707
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: three forty one pounds, and I just didn't see that

708
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: weekend and week out. And it's hard to judge a

709
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: guy that's dealing with injuries, especially a back injury. We

710
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: don't know how that affects any any person or player.

711
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: When it comes to football, it's it's a physical sport.

712
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: But I just think if he could have just not

713
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: so much sacks, just allowed other guys around him to

714
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: make plays where he's not so much getting double teamed,

715
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: but maybe he's facing one of the better guards or

716
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: tackles or sliding protection, and that would have freed up

717
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: some of these linebackers to shoot the gaps and make

718
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: tackles in the backfield. Just didn't see inconsistency consistent enough.

719
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: So you look at defensive tackles, someone to affect the

720
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: interior of an offensive line, and maybe that's free agency.

721
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Kim Hicks, Mollie Collins, the Baston, Joseph Deya, the Los

722
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, DJ Jones of the forty nine ers. Those

723
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: are some of the free agents out there as far

724
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: as draft prospects. At number twenty three, if you think

725
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: you've got a defensive tackle that can be someone that

726
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: you can not build around, but that could be here

727
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: for a long term. To Marvin Leal, Jordan Davis, Logan

728
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: Hall out of Houston, DeVante Wyatt from Georgia. I mean,

729
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how they rank as far as you

730
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: know your top one twenty board, sure, but defensive tackle certainly,

731
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: whoever falls like boy plays out. I like Winfrey from Oklahoma.

732
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: He played really well to Senior Bowl. Out Again, I'm

733
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, you start looking at the list.

734
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: I think they got to address the interior offensive line tackles.

735
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously Beacham's getting up there in age,

736
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: but we'll see what they do. They do have some

737
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: backups there. I would address the interior offensive line, in

738
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: the interior defensive line. And oh, by the way, I

739
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: gotta address the outside linebacker position because possibly he could

740
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: lose Chandler Jones. So that's three right there. And then

741
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: and then I need a corner, I need a tight end,

742
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: and I probably need another wide receiver. Now, they may

743
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: have seven to nine picks, if depending on the compensed

744
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: story picks that are announced, you're picking twenty third. I

745
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: think they have a pick in every round if I'm

746
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: not mistaken. Is there a pick that they gave up

747
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: for Art's Yes, yes they did, So they lose that one. Okay,

748
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: that's okay. But for the most part, and a lot

749
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: of times, you just go best available player. Now, if

750
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: somebody's on the board that wants to move up to

751
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: get that fifth year option doesn't happen as much. I

752
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: would think Steve would consider moving down to get another

753
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: third round pick, because that, to me, that's where you

754
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: got to make your hay. First round picks are a crapshoot, second, third,

755
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: and fourth those kind of your meat and potatoes of

756
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: the draft. So but again, there's enough areas, and like

757
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: any team, we got to wait for free agency to

758
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: see that some of these holes they fill. Now we

759
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna have to make some roster moves

760
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: by cutting players, ask some players to take pay cuts.

761
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: But I was told they have a plan and we'll

762
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: just have to wait and see. So what they don't

763
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: do in free agency can lead to what they want

764
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: to do in the draft, and maybe they could just

765
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: take the best available player and start stacking interior alignement, cornerbacks,

766
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: pass rushers, because you know, after Marcus Golden and Dennis

767
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: guard Deck, there's not a lot of meat on that bone.

768
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: And I don't and I don't see Kunard coming back.

769
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: I just I think we know what he is. I

770
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit. He worked hard. You

771
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: would have thought he'd get more playing time. I thought

772
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: he did a good job sudden he had his first

773
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: year here. That's just me thinking out loud. But I don't.

774
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: I know he's not part of the D line, but

775
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some changes on that side

776
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: of the ball, a couple of bright spots for that

777
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: defensive line. I think we'd give jj Watt an incomplete

778
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: because seven games and yeah, it was a great comeback

779
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: story against the Los Angeles Rams in the wild card game,

780
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: but he wanted to see more out of jj Watt

781
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: and see him healthy. So going into year two, let's

782
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: see JJ Watt on the field each and every week.

783
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: But when you look at Zach Allen, and I'll throw

784
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: another name out there, Michael Dogby who yes, is a

785
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: restricted free agent. But in looking at what he did

786
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: compared to everyone else on that defensive line, he played

787
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: all sixteen games or played sixteen games, but he finished

788
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: second behind Zach Allen for the most tackles among lyman.

789
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: That surprised me. Michael Dogbee doesn't get talked a lot

790
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: about twenty nineteen seventh round pick. He's kind of stuck around.

791
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: They like what he has, what he's capable of, not

792
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: saying he's an answer on that defensive line. But I

793
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: could certainly see depending on what happens free agency or

794
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: who's not here that we expect at least on paper

795
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: because they're under contract. But Michael Doggby could be someone

796
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: that has earned more playing time this coming season. No,

797
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan six three, two eighty. He's gotten

798
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot stronger. To me, he's a perfect rotation guy. Now,

799
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: could he become a starter down the road, Sure, But

800
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: right now, you know you got your JJ Watt and

801
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to replace. If they decided to go

802
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: in a different direction, you're gonna have to replace. Jordan

803
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: Phillips is that guy on the roster. Do you moved

804
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: Jack allenback over there, and then you got JJ Watt

805
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: possibly as a nose or a three technique, and then

806
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: you figure out who's on the left side. Because Zach Allen,

807
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: to me, is part of it. When we don't talk

808
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: when we talk pass rushers, we've got to include him

809
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: too because he can get to the quarterback. Now, again,

810
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: playing line, you're probably not going to get ten sacks,

811
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: but five to seven that's a lot more than Jordan

812
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Phillips got over two years. Spin and the key with

813
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: Alan this past season, he was healthy, first time in

814
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: his career he did not miss a game due to injury. Now,

815
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: he did miss a couple of games because he tested

816
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: positive for COVID nineteen, but when he was on the

817
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: football field, he was effective. Set career highs and tackles,

818
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: tackles for lost sacks, quarterback hits, passes, defense, fumble recoveries.

819
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: So very capable. Zach Allen in year three and a

820
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: piece on that defensive line. Not more snaps because he

821
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: played a lot of snaps, but maybe now more impact

822
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: plays be top of mind. Let's hear his name called

823
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: by Dave Passion Ron Wilfley on the broadcast. Yeah, I mean,

824
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: if you look at it on paper. Of course, this

825
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: is where you are in the off season. I mean,

826
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: the Cardinals could line up this week Zach Allen on

827
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: the right side Rashard Lawrence. He was starting in Week

828
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: one against the Titans. I think maybe because Corey Peters

829
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: was coming off the injury and kind of want to

830
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: ease him back in there. And then you got you

831
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: got J. J. Watt. So now now you gotta Usually

832
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: you address six or seven on game day. You probably

833
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: bring nine to twelve to camp. But again, it's a

834
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: position where they need to address, whether it's in free

835
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: agency of the draft, add another, you know, a B

836
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: plus player there to add some more rotation in depth

837
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: to that. But right now, they could line up those

838
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: three guys, and I would put Zach Allen as an

839
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: outside right defensive end. You brought up Corey Peters. He's

840
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: one of the two unrestricted free agents. The other one

841
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: is Jack Crawford. Everyone's going who Well, he spent the

842
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: entire season on injured reserve after getting hurts and training camp.

843
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: But Corey Peters one of those veteran presents. And we

844
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: talked about Peters a year ago at this time, Hey,

845
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: we'd love to see him come back because of his leadership,

846
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: how loud his voice is when he speaks. People listen.

847
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: Corey Peters fourteen games played, missed three games because he

848
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID nineteen, but still very capable at

849
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: a quote unquote young age in his thirties. But that

850
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: might be someone that we see late in the offseason

851
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Speaker 1: because I do think he wants to continue playing, likes

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Speaker 1: it here, has found a home here in Arizona, and

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Speaker 1: if you can find a way to make it work, yeah,

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Speaker 1: bring back Corey Peters. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a

855
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Speaker 1: couple of guys like that. I think Max Williams, Corey Peters,

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Speaker 1: Robert Alford. You know, I would load it up where

857
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: you have to be active on game day. That really

858
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: starts at forty six thousand, five hundred, so if you

859
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: play seventeen or fifteen games, that's another six or seven

860
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. But I would think those guys would

861
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: be minimum deals with incentives. I would definitely do it.

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Speaker 1: And the three guys I mentioned Alford, Max Williams, and

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00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: Corey Peters love Corey Peter and what he means not

864
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: only on the field, but off the field as well. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you pointed out thirty three percent of the snaps

866
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Speaker 1: and meant you mentioned that he missed three games. I

867
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Speaker 1: mean that's normal to me. Me maybe two years ago

868
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: it's forty percent. But that's what they want to do.

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00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: They want to get a rotation there now. Obviously, you

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Speaker 1: know if it's games tighten the fourth quarter, you want

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00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: to have the JJ Watts on the field. You want

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Speaker 1: to have the Corey Peters on the field, possibly Lawrence

873
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: or Lucky Foe too, and Zach Allen. So that's that's,

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Speaker 1: you know, for his age, that's probably what they anticipated.

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00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Cardinal's defensive line has pieces. I think more pieces need

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00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: to be added to really make that defensive line more effective,

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00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: especially as we talk about it when it comes to

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00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: stopping the run. You don't really need that defensive line

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00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: to record sacks. And when we talk about guys within

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00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: this defense with their hand in the dirts, I know

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00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: there are defensive ends free agents and the draft that

882
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: are listed as defensive end that get to the quarterback.

883
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: But within this defense, this three four defense that Vance

884
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Joseph wants to run, I don't think you're looking for

885
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: that defensive end to get to the quarterback. To get sacks,

886
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: looking to affect the quarterback but not get home. All

887
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Speaker 1: the time, you're looking for that defensive end to occupy

888
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: someone to allow an outside linebacker to rush. Well, let's

889
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: go back to that Houston game where they were basically

890
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: just playing for pride, naming the back of their jersey

891
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Mollie Collins. He was in the back room a ton

892
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 1: of you know, Cardinals end up winning that game thirty

893
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: one to five. But the way the first quarter win,

894
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, boy, don't be the first team and

895
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: so and I love the age there twenty six Yeah,

896
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: I mean he was splitting double teams. You know, Kim Hicks,

897
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: he's a great player. You know, he benefited from like

898
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: any other player, from Robert Quinn getting to the quarterback.

899
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: But he was a big fixture for that Bears defense. Unfortunately,

900
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: just couldn't put enough points on the board. Jones is

901
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: intriguing to me anytime he took a guy in the division. Yeah,

902
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some good names out there, just like

903
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: anything else. Twenty six year old guys though, the prime

904
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: free agents, but they're probably gonna want more money than

905
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: a guy like a Keem Hicks at thirty two or

906
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: Lynnville Joseph at thirty three, all the guys you mentioned

907
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty six, twenty six. That's the prime for

908
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: a free agent when it comes to giving deals out

909
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: for more than just one or two years. Well, let's

910
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: bring it full circle here on Cardinals Covered two presented

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00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: by Honday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. We began

912
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: talking about Super Bowl fifty six and the Bengals and Rams.

913
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: While the Bengals b J Hill twenty six years old

914
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: and has really flourished in that Bengals defense, free agent

915
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: to be maybe you do some scaling on Sunday Burg

916
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: Gang and Sebastian Joseph Day twenty six for the Rams

917
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: on that defensive line. So two players potentially that the

918
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals might have an eye. And again this is just

919
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: you and I am J speculating and talking to looking

920
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: at lists, figuring it out. I know nothing about free agency.

921
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: Play ends for the Ers on a Cardinal, so nobody

922
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: does unless you're in the building upstairs. Exactly, No, you

923
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: can work here. You're not gonna hear anything. It's just

924
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: how it works. But you know, I think Trey Hendrickson

925
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: is BJ Hills benefited from Trey Hendrickson. You gotta have

926
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: great players around you, and Sebastian Joseph Day he's benefited

927
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: from a guy like Aaron Donald. But that's the idea.

928
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: You could have stud like that, and you've got some

929
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: plug and play guys and all of a sudden they're

930
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: going to become household names. And hopefully the Cardinals find

931
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: one of those household names this coming season with respect

932
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: to the defensive line. And yes, the Cardinals have a

933
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: lot of needs, MJ. You chronicled it, and we'll continue

934
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: to talk about it as we get closer and closer

935
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: to free agency and then obviously the draft coming up

936
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Speaker 1: in late April. All right, before we call it a

937
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Speaker 1: day here, MJ. Need a score. I know your prediction

938
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Speaker 1: is the Los Angeles Rams, and I'm not gonna argue

939
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: with that. I hope it doesn't happen, but based off

940
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: of what we've seen, based off what we see on paper,

941
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams are the better team. But I

942
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: need a score from you here. Thirty one okay, so

943
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: two possessions. Okay, that's close enough to keep me interested

944
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I'm gonna hope it's even closer

945
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: than that and the score is reversed Bengals with the

946
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: I would sign up for that right now? Where do

947
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: I go sign up for that? Just right here on

948
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: the show? Yeah? Right now? Well, we'll make it happen. Okay,

949
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Speaker 1: so Thursday, normally it happens on a Saturday night NFL Honors.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if if Jonathan Ward's going to be

951
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: up for the Player of the Year. Probably not. Didn't

952
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: get a lot of love there like last year. So

953
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Speaker 1: let's start with MVP Aaron Rodgers. Although I'd like to

954
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Speaker 1: see Tom Brady winning selfish reasons, I agree Aaron Rodgers

955
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: Offensive and defensive Players of the Year Offense, Cooper cup

956
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Speaker 1: yep defense, t J. Watt. I agree with you on there,

957
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Speaker 1: all right, rookies offense, defensive Rookies of the Year, and

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Speaker 1: I think, okay, we're gonna see one on Sunday, Jamar

959
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: Chase without question far as offensive rookie Jamar Chase and

960
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. Yeah, so that that might be the easiest

961
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: decisions we've ever had when it comes to rookies. All right,

962
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year two names. I'm going Joe Burrow,

963
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: but I also would consider Dak Prescott. Okay, I can

964
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: understand that both coming back from devastating injuries. Coach of

965
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: the Year, and this is something that I think every

966
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Speaker 1: single coach at one point in the twenty twenty one

967
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Speaker 1: regular season was named coach of the Year for that

968
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Speaker 1: particular week. But Coach of the Year Mike Vrabel, Okay,

969
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Speaker 1: even though his team did not advance. But it's a

970
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: regular season award, and they were a number one seed,

971
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Speaker 1: missing for a lot of that. No, Derrick Henry, Amen,

972
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Speaker 1: Now if you want to vote now, Zach Taylor, that's true.

973
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: What happens when you get to the playoffs and you're

974
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Speaker 1: playing the Super Bowl? Vrabel. Difference between regular season and postseason.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see how we did when we reconvene.

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Speaker 1: He will hopefully super Hopefully we Jamar Chase of Michael Parsons.

977
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Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna be two for two there.

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers gonna win. I think T J.

979
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Speaker 1: Watt's gonna win. Now, Jonathan Taylor, there's a lot of

980
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: talk about him, But how they finish, Amen, And that's

981
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: that's what we talk about. And when you when you

982
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Speaker 1: win the triple Crown in football, receiving Triple Crown. Yeah, yeah,

983
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: that's Cooper Cup. Hard to argue with that. And on

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Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive

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Speaker 1: producer Jim Almahundro for Mike Drenkie. I'm preg Rael Loop.

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Speaker 1: Well doct you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.