1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: He's a Swiss Army knife, you know, Like if you 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: take away one part of his game, he's got another 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: part that he can go to. He's not one dimensional, 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: and that's what's nerve racking. You really have to be 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: detail when you play Lamar Jackson. You can't. You can't 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: go after the sack. When you go after the sack, 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: that's when he burns you for eighty yard touchdown in 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: a three under yards passing. But you can still beat him. 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Minnesota Vikings podcast. This is episode 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: one eighteen. I'm Tatum Everett alongside Gabe Henderson and Jay Nelson. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: We're still slowly recovering from a late night on Halloween night. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: But to help us in that recovery process on today's podcast, 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: we've got Biking staff writer Lindsay Young. You know her, 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: You love her, you love her writing, especially Lindsay. Thanks 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: for being here. Yeah, thanks for having me you guys, 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: how are you feeling after Sunday? I am still tired 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, honestly, I feel like I haven't caught up 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: yet at all. No, but I feel like this season 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: in general, just like I read about this the other day, 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: like the games have been draining, you know, and so 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what it feels like to actually 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: be on the team or be a coach. But it's 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: been it's been a drag so far. Um so yeah, 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm touch good, but like your anxiety levels have been 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: at the like every every game, your heart be broken anymore, 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: like every game, even the games we've won, Like it's 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: been down to the very end to have already been 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: in overtime twice, like before going into a week seven 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: buys crazy. Rick Spellman used the word exciting, which I 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: don't agree with. I mean, if that's if that's what 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: gets you excited, great, But for me, I'm I can't 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: take too much more. The craziest part about this whole 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: season is we talked about it from the very beginning 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: the roller coaster, you know, the close games and everything 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: put you putting you on the emotional roller coaster, and 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: this one you're you're sitting there saying, okay. One is 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: when are we fully engaging for what we think is 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: going to happen and to get to the end the 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: way it did, still have a chance, still have a 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: chance to try and punch something in and just to 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: fall at the very end the way we did it. 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Just it was this very unsatisfying game, and people were 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: asking me my thoughts earlier in the week, and I 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: just said, it felt kind of like Cleveland all over again, 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: where it's like you had that first drive that was 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: super successful and you're like, Okay, we got something here, 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: let's do what we can do for the rest of 48 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: the game, and the rest of the game you're basically 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: stuck in the mud and you're only kicking field goals 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: and couldn't punch multiple chances inside the red zone in 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: for touchdowns. I think that was the huge issue that 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: we had in that game. I think Adam feeling nail 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: it on the head when he was like, we just 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: let teams hang around, hang around, hang around. Like there 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been a single game that's been really a blowout 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: in either direction. It's just start of this like plotting 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: along right, having the lead, feeling okay, but then that 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: team hangs around and it came back to buy us 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: big time on Sunday. I feel like we kind of 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: felt that maybe like a tad bit comfortable in the 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: second half of that Seahawks game. But the only problem 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: with that is still no second half touchdowns, you know, 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: and haven't scored a touchdown in the second half at 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: us Bank Stadium, So yeah, I mean that that's I mean, 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: you felt comfortable in that game, but at the same time, 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: it was unsatisfying to end that way. Yeah, and not 67 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: scoring points in sudden change it's probably the biggest thing 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: to me, because, yeah, you want to score points in 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: the second half, and when you have the momentum on 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: your side, that's a that's a whole nother nugget right there, 71 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, well, granted they stopped us on 72 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: a drive, but when the defense forces are turnover and 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: you got the momentum and you got a shorter field 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: to go and you don't put up points, it's like, 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like come on, like what are we 76 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: doing here? And granted last week I was like, all right, well, 77 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: we usually run the ball out of a sudden change 78 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: when it's a turnover. We usually try to get a 79 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: run game downhill, and I'm like, all right, let's let's 80 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: take some shots. Well this past Sunday we actually took 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: three shots in three setden changed moments and that still 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: resulted in zero points. So I think it's one of 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: those weeks where you just got to go back to 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the drawing board and say, Okay, what works best for 85 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: this offense? What do we do best? Is Dalvin healthy? 86 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Can we run the ball? Like? Do we need to 87 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: run the ball to the love versus the right vice? Versa? Like? 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: What do we do best? And let's stick with that. 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: We do have a lot to get to to talk 90 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: about this game, because now we take the show on 91 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: the road to Baltimore and face Lamar Jackson and the 92 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: Ravens this weekend. Before I get there, though, I just 93 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to the Vikings 94 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: game presentation staff because if you were in the building 95 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: for the Halloween matchup on Sunday, it was just such 96 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: a vibe. I mean I felt the energy. I've never 97 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: heard it louder between you know, the spooky video tie 98 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: ins and the music and the even though obviously the 99 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: cheerleaders danced to Thriller, that like made my whole night, 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: there was just like so many elements of it that 101 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: really just made that atmosphere amazing. I know is for 102 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: my first night game, I was just blown away. Yeah, 103 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: it was my first night game also, and just I 104 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: mean she shout out to Darius, Greg Bostrom, Tom but 105 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: all the guys involved in the game. They productions, Arthur Coo, 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: j Nelson, Jesse had that video that was the eyeball. 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: I was like it was it was amazing, Like US 108 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium the game presentation. Whether you're a fan or not, 109 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: there were so many Cowboys fans there that that left 110 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the game saying, man like this is this is much 111 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: better than Jerry Rold and you know Jerry Rold and 112 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: at and T Stadium in Dallas. They they they make 113 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: a name from themselves by doing everything big and I 114 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: think US Bank Stadium was a lot bigger than what 115 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: any end game experience in the NFL can and will 116 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: be this year. Also shout out to Lindy for your 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Hulk professional wear. At the same time, I was like, 118 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: how did you pull this off? I had to just 119 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: have a little, a little touch of Halloween, so I 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: feared I'm going to be wearing a mask. Anyways in 121 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: the press box COVID you know protection and had to 122 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: go with my Hulk mask And did you already have 123 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: that on Dan Bay or did you get it for 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: the night? I got it for the night. Okay, just 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: making sure. I wasn't sure if that's something you rocked 126 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: around to, like Target on a Sunday morning or something. 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I got it for the night, but well I rewear it. Yeah, 128 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: absolutely did. Mark Ruffle will ever retweet you, No, oh no. 129 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: But as we know with Lindsay, you went't like her 130 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: when she's angry. It's just like, you know, you got 131 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that keep everything good. When I do 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: get mad, people tell me that it's like cute, and 133 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never seen you mad. Ever, you can 134 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: ask Alan. Alan could pull it out at anybody at YEA. 135 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: One thing I will say about game presentation, we did 136 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: hear from multiple people, including some cowboy people and everything too, 137 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: just saying hey, kudos for all the effort you put in. 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: And I think in general we try to do everything bigger, 139 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: especially for a night game, a primetime game. We know 140 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: that the fans are usually more geeked for those kind 141 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: of games. Just even the atmosphere, especially getting dark and 142 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: you can really control the lightning grid and all that 143 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I think the amount of time and 144 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: effort that guys like you said Arthur Coop and Jesse 145 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: Marquette and Tom and Darius and Greg and everybody put 146 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: into planning for this game, knowing how big it was. 147 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: It was the Cowboys, it was Sunday Night football. I 148 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: think it really showed, and like you said, kudos to 149 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: those guys for all of the efforts they did. I 150 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: think there was We can only control so much. You know, 151 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: we can't control what happens on the field, but we 152 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: can't control the atmosphere, and I think do everything they 153 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: can to put their best foot forward. It was just 154 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: really cool to see. Well back to the bad news, 155 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: that was the best thing that happened on Sunday, the 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: actual game presentation because the on field performance, Man, I 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: wish it would have been a little bit better. Yeah, 158 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: speaking of that, you know how we do it on 159 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: losses Here on Minnesota Vikings Podcast. We have event Session, 160 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: and I just feel like, I know we kind of 161 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: talked touched on this a little bit more in the beginning, 162 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: but I'd like to have you guys have just your 163 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: full sixty second stream of thought after the twenty to 164 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: sixteen lost to a Cooper Rush led Cowboys team, which 165 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: obviously still stings, but to put that in the past, 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: so we'll do so with Events Session so we will. Actually, 167 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: I like, Gabe, go first, just so you can kind 168 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: of get a feel for it, like table game. That's good, 169 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: all right, breath before we do this, all right, and 170 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on a timer. Oh there's 171 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: an actual time. Yea weep, you get sixty seconds. Don't 172 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: go over. You don't want to know if you don't 173 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: want to find out. Yeah, you don't want to find 174 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: out what happens if you go over? Okay, teething, all right, Gabe, 175 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: three two one, um. One thing I want to vent 176 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: about is the fact that we knew coming in whether 177 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Deak would play or not, that we were going to 178 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: force the Cowboys to throw the ball. Stopping the run 179 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: was the number one thing. The Dallas Cowboys the number 180 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: one most efficient first down team, which means they average 181 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: four plus yards on first down. We knew stopping the 182 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: run would be key. We did that, and we still 183 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: lost to a Cooper rush team. And a lot of 184 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: that goes to not being efficient on third down on 185 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. But since I'm on the 186 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: defensive side of the all the Cowboys are seven or 187 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: fourteen on third down, which means, you know, we got 188 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: them in third and medium, third and long situations, but 189 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: we weren't able to get them off the field. And 190 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush throwing for a three hundred and twenty 191 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: five yards, that says a lot about this Dallas Cowboys 192 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: team as far as like they are a good team. 193 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: They can keep their quarterback up. But still, we have 194 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: guys on our defensive side of the ball too that 195 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: should be able to stop them, and we weren't able 196 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: to do so. And hopefully we can do this upcoming 197 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Sunday and be better on third down against the Baltimore 198 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Ravens boom right on time. Yeah, it's such a good 199 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: point because you know, we have I would say one 200 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. He has the talent, 201 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: we have the offensive weapons clean and Cooper Rush and 202 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: his guys looked much better. And it's frustrating because I 203 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: think that we all know it's there. We all know 204 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: it's there. It's just putting it together. And I mean, 205 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: hats off to Kellen Moore and those guys. The Cowboys 206 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: play caller, offensive coordinator who still looks like he's probably 207 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: my age, Like he looks so young, but he has 208 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: it all figured out. Get Doc's not there plugging Cooper Rush. 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: It was just fine, and honestly, I don't want to 210 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: be too negative, but I do feel like a lot 211 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: of their third down success was due to Danille not 212 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: being in um I think when he was in the game, 213 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: they were one of five something like that, and then 214 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: he got hurt and then they go on this long run. 215 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: So if Danille is healthy, of course he won't be 216 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: healthy the rest of the year. So we got to 217 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: figure out a way to make up for that. Yeah, 218 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: make up for that, but that that was a big 219 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: presence with him being out. Tyren Smith was out also, 220 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: so you can say, okay, well you should still have there. Yeah, 221 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: but Danille is Danille, and we got to find a 222 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: way to be better without him. I know I'm not crying, 223 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: you are, and I know that was one of the 224 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: things even just watching when when we first got the 225 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: news in the second quarter that all of a sudden 226 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: he was out. Yeah, you're just like, oh, okay, like whatever, 227 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: back to what level will he be back? When they 228 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: came back from halftime and said he's out for the game, 229 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, yeah, that was I think 230 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: defensive believe that was a tipping point and like you 231 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: were saying, and just that trying to get pressure on 232 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: any any kind of pressure against their offense. You saw 233 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: them come out in the second half. You know what, Honestly, 234 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bite my tongue right now because this is 235 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: something that I'll ben sush. Oh that sounds good. I 236 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: like it. I like it. Yeah, no, no no, no, we're good. Well, 237 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Lindsay you're the guest. We'll let you go second. Sweet, 238 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: So you're ready, I'll count you down in three two one, Okay. 239 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I think, out of everything from Sunday's game, the thing 240 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: that frustrated me the most, and I know we touched 241 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: on this just a little bit, but was the inability 242 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: to capitalize with points on offense after turnovers, just because 243 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: we all know that football is a game of momentum. 244 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: When you create turnovers, it creates so much energy and 245 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: juice and you give the ball back to your team, 246 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: and then when you can't make something happen after that, 247 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: it somehow feels more defeating even than like a right 248 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: a quote regular offensive drive. Right. And so I think 249 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: that kind of goes right into the the inconsistencies where 250 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: we know we've got the guys on offense to make 251 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: things happen, and on defense as well. But when you 252 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: get out there and you have three three and ounce 253 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: in a row and you can't capitalize on what your 254 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: defense just did, that feels super, super deflating. So for me, 255 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: that was the biggest thing in going into Baltimore. It's like, 256 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: if we can create turnovers, can we flip that and 257 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: create points off nice on the money like a real borrow. Yeah, 258 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: it's something that I think that they've struggled with the 259 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: entire season, and you think after a bye week, like 260 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: hopefully some self scouting will help shore up those problems. 261 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: And every time we see that in the scripted section, 262 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: we get I feel like there's this like hope and 263 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: optimism that kind of creeps back into the picture we 264 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: watch on the first drive and then the game just 265 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: continues to go on and it just feels like same old, 266 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: same old. But Jay will let you get to your 267 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: VET session next. All right, I'm going out for it, 268 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: all right, release the session three to what one of 269 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: the biggest moments I thought in the game was something 270 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: that we've all been bracing against the entire season, which 271 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: has happened repeatedly, is what's going to happen come the 272 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: beginning of the second half, and when the Cowboys came 273 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: out hit the deep shot on you right away and 274 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: essentially evened up the game and won ten ten, And 275 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: the first words that came out of my mouth was, 276 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: all right, even game at this point. It's like, whoever 277 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: wins the second half has got the game. And to 278 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Lindsay's point, that was something that I really focused on 279 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: as well, was thinking about how you had a guy 280 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: like Xavier Woods have such a great game against his 281 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: former team and then only be able to get essentially 282 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: three points out of the two turnovers that were created. 283 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: I think for me, it was just wasted opportunity on 284 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: those things. And I think that that has been the 285 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: common theme this season, is just saying like you've had 286 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: opportunities in different spots to try and capitalize, and to 287 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: only get three points or go three and out on 288 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: those kind of pieces has been just something that's on 289 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: an absolute achilles heel for those team. No, you're totally right, 290 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: and I think I might pickyback off that a little 291 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: bit in my VENT session myself, because it's just one 292 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: of those things where I feel like, oh, I probably 293 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: should should hold on a second, hold, I gotta let 294 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Jake get the timer going. Um, I think Jake to 295 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: that point, Like, going into the game last week, we 296 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: knew the Dallas Cowboys they were They're the second best 297 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: third quarter scoring offense, so they always score points after 298 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: the break. They scored a touchdown on the first drive 299 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: of the second half and every single game that they played, 300 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: so Zimmer knew that going in. And then in fact, 301 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: the third play of the game, you give up a 302 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: third play of the second half, you give up a 303 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: seventy three yard touchdown. It's like, ah, like come on, 304 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: like what are we doing? So yeah, to that point 305 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: of like being good to end the half and then 306 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: being better to start the half in the second half, 307 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: that's something this Minnesota Vikings team has to be really 308 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: good at. Zimmer said it on X's and O's with 309 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: PA earlier this week. So ye, gotta continue to be better. 310 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: But let me ask you, let me I'm sorry, let 311 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: me ask you this though we're what seven, eight weeks, 312 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: eight weeks in at this point, like not yeah, I 313 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: guess nine growing on nine weeks, Like is that just 314 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: going to be who we are? Like at some point 315 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: you have to say we're just that's where we're not 316 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: getting better at. I don't know, does that make sense. Yeah, 317 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of like point of it's point of emphasis. 318 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: It's a point of emphasis that you have to talk 319 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: about if you're a coaching you're a team, Like, guys 320 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: know that, I mean every interview that they do, they 321 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: know that, and other teams know that's who we are. 322 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: But as a team, you don't want to say that 323 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: is so you are. You have to look yourself in 324 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: the mirror and say like, Okay, this is who we 325 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: have been, but this is not who we want to be. 326 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: So right, I don't think you can never accept it 327 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: and swallowing. Sure, you have to face it, but you 328 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: can't you can't know to be a good team or 329 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: to say that we want to have a bounce back here. 330 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean last year we bounce back after the Cowboys game. 331 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: So they say like, hey, this is what we want 332 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: to be after this Cowboys game. No, you can't say 333 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: that's who we're going to be. Well, I mean I don't. 334 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily. What I was saying is like, 335 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: that's who they're going to be. But that's just part 336 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: of the identity at this point. Yeah, right, And it 337 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: feels almost like like where is the when is the 338 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: switch going to flip to figure it out to finally 339 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: execute in that way you know we're all saying and 340 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: if we're all saying it, they've definitely been saying it 341 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: at least for the first chunk of the season here. 342 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: And I think in general, when you look at this stuff, 343 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, the whole definition of insanity is doing 344 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: the same thing and expecting a different result. I don't 345 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: feel like every single week they're coming out and saying, well, 346 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: this is how we do things and this is what 347 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: we're going to get it. It's been more of a 348 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: what have we done and what have we tried and 349 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: what changes have happened? But we're still getting this similar result. 350 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: So really digging into it and saying what is the 351 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: core crux of the issue that we're having. I think 352 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: eventually it gets to a point where a lot of 353 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: it is going to stem from people saying I'm just 354 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: tired of this. I'm tired of having the same result 355 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: over and over again. So how what do we have 356 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: to do internally to change it? And I know there's 357 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: probably going to be scheme changes, is especially now there's 358 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna be personnel changes, given you know, Daniel's injury and 359 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: stuff on defense, Like, there's going to be changes that 360 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: are going to be had, and some will probably be 361 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: positive and some are probably going to be negative as well. 362 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: But it's it's the you just came off to buy 363 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: the self scouting trying to change things up. Still had 364 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: a similar result against this Cowboys offense that you know 365 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: has got some definite weapons. But for me, it's it's 366 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: looking at this and saying, Okay, we all know what 367 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: hasn't worked for these these first games. It's what do 368 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: we need to do again this week going into Baltimore 369 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: to figure out how do we not do this again? Right? Well, 370 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are a good team, right, Like, it's not 371 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: like we lost to an awful team. Sure, but I 372 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: think part of the discouragement is the fact that it's 373 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: at home. You've got this crazy stadium, home field advantage, 374 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: prime time, and like you mentioned, you know, dacks out 375 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: And I think to Tatum's point, they were able to 376 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: have a good enough plan and they have enough weapons 377 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: on their team to just plug Cooper Rush in and 378 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: make it still work. But there's all those factors that 379 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: make it just feel really discouraging. But the Cowboys are 380 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: a good team. I don't think you can ignore that 381 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: they will be the best team we play all year. 382 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: This year, I think the Packers are six and one, 383 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: but I don't think the cow the Packers could hold 384 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys weight. Right now, Tatum, you're up for VENT sesh. 385 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: All right, cool, cool, all right? Three two one. One 386 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: thing we haven't talked about is third down, And I 387 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: know I know that I kind of figured it wouldn't 388 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: last this long in the VENT sessions, but to go 389 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: one and thirteen, it's an eight percent conversion rate. It's 390 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: the worst mark they've had with Kirk Cousins as the starter. 391 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: And conversely, you know, I think getting third down stops 392 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: is something that we didn't do a terrible job at. 393 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: But when you can't sustain drives, it's it's feel like 394 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: it's like I said earlier, it's the same old story 395 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: we've talked about every week. I feel like this has 396 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: been my event session for a while now. But in 397 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: that regard, I feel like taking more chances on first 398 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: and second down. We saw a couple of times it 399 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: almost felt like they were discouraged after not hitting those 400 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: chances or those shots. Necessarily, nine of twelve possessions lasted 401 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: five plays or fewer, and I just you can't win 402 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: games like that. The fact that we were hanging in 403 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: there though, is a good sign. But this offense needs 404 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: to come Yep, there we go. This offense needs to 405 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: find themselves. As the best way I could probably put it, 406 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: like you said, you've been talking about this week after week, 407 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, but when you really you get the stats 408 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: page at the end of the game, you look at it. 409 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just this giant flashing red light sitting 410 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: there saying like you were one for thirteen on third downs, 411 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: and we're talking about trying to sustain drives, We're talking 412 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: about trying to move the ball, especially even inside the 413 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: red zone. You know, you're inside the ten yard line 414 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: and you end up going negative yards, you know, instead 415 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: of scoring touchdowns. It's like those are those missed opportun tunities. 416 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: And you're sitting there saying, we only gave up twenty 417 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: points on defense and lost by four points, like you're 418 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: even last week, I was saying, you can't trade field 419 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: goals for touchdowns against this team, and this is exactly 420 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: what we did. So it's just that third down piece 421 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: of saying why aren't we able to convert those things? 422 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like there were a ton of opportunities 423 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: where you saw guys like dropping passes or just not 424 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: getting past the sticks. It was more of you need 425 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: eight yards and you were thrown for six or something 426 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: like that, Like too many chowns that and that's that's 427 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: the frustrating part. I remember even in a couple of 428 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: plays you saw them hitting the check down because the 429 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: pressure was was, you know, in Kirk's face and a 430 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: guy like kJ Osbourne streaking down the center of the field, 431 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: You're like, man, just loft that thing to him and 432 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: he's he's gone. It's we're seeing things and I know 433 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: that it's different when there's a guy in your face 434 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: trying to trying to tackle you. But those are the 435 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: pieces that I think when they go in and start 436 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: break down the film, whether it's the coaches or the 437 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: players and in their meetings, that they just got to be, 438 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, shaking their heads, going, man, those are the 439 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: opportunities that we're missing right now, and if we hit 440 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: those things, it's completely different ball game. I feel like 441 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to third down, we kind of took 442 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: a step back as far as what we have shown 443 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: on film versus what we did on Sunday. We were 444 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: forty one percent on third down the past two games 445 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: twelve of twenty nine, and we showed promise. Yeah, you 446 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: brought it up a couple of weeks ago. I was like, man, 447 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: the fact that we were really good on third down 448 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: is its key here. So I feel like we took 449 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: a step back and not being able to execute there 450 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: we were. I thought we were okay on first down 451 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: this week, like Dalvin had a few, he had a 452 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: few eight yard runs, but it was those checkdowns on 453 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: second down that we weren't good at that put us 454 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: back in a third and six or a third and seven. 455 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, just just being more consistent on second down, 456 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: which is people don't really talk about that, right, It's 457 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: just like, all right, be good on first and then 458 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: set yourself up for third down. But second down we 459 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: weren't really good at all on Sunday, And I feel 460 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: like that kind of change the momentum when you get 461 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: it pushes you back, pushes you back. When you get 462 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: like a minus three yards on a catch on second down, 463 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: it's like, oh shoot, we were going forward. Now we're 464 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: going back. Now, now you got to go back on you. 465 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: If you're Clint Kubiak, now you're you know, rewinding back 466 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: on your place sheet to say, okay, well all right, 467 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: we didn't expect you getting this three and two. You're 468 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: you're flipping a third nine, second and two and then 469 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: be third and two and then thirty five. Oh yeah, 470 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: another point emphasis this week, Yeah for sure. Well, speaking 471 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: of this week, it's going to be a tough matchup 472 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: against a Ravens team who is coming off by themselves. 473 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the podcast, you may recognize this. 474 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: Next segment, we're going to go around and give one 475 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: thing today that we're excited about and one thing that 476 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: we're nervous for in this matchup. The kickoffice set for 477 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: noon in Baltimore, so it's away from us Bank. I 478 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: know that if you look at the odds and stuff, 479 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: we're looking like we're the end our dogs in this one. 480 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean can't come out Swigan. So let's 481 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: start with something that you're excited about this matchup, and Lindsay, 482 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I'll let you start this one awesome. Well, I think 483 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cheat a little bit on this one just 484 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: because what I'm excited about is to see if Michael 485 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: Pierce will get to play against his former team. I 486 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: know we've all been ancy to get Pierce back in 487 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: the lineup. We don't have an answer yet on whether 488 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: or not he'll be healthy and ready to go on Sunday, 489 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: but I think if he is, it would be an 490 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: awesome game to see him come back. Obviously, he hasn't 491 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: been in Baltimore for two years because he opted out 492 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: of last season his first year with the Vikings, but 493 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: I think it would be great to see just to 494 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: have that energy in Baltimore against his former team, and 495 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: also regardless of team, just having Pierced back in there 496 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: against the run I think would be huge, you know, 497 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson against Baltimore trying to move the ball 498 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: on the ground. If you have Pierced back in there, 499 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: I think that would be really significant. So I'm kind 500 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: of a wait and see. But that's what I'm most 501 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: intrigued by this week, is to see if he will 502 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: bounce back, because I can't think of a better week 503 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: for that to happen for him, So definitely rooting for that. 504 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: It'd be nice to get another veteran presence back in 505 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: the lineup, especially since I feel like this line hasn't 506 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: all really played together since the first week, and now 507 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: with to Kneel out, it is good to get Pierced 508 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: back in the mix, hopefully fingers crossed. I like your out. Yes, 509 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: what if he has like an Xavier Woods type game 510 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: against his former taow right, it would be incredible. So 511 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm I'm trying to be optimistic. 512 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that this will be the week we're gonna 513 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: will Will it to happen? Yeah, especially in a week 514 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: like you said, with Daniel being out, it's like there's 515 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: the subtraction if you can get Michael Pierce to help 516 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: fill in on that, Yes, it's different. Yes they're gonna 517 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: try and you know, exploit going to the outside. I'm 518 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: sure with Daniel not necessarily out there putting as much pressure, 519 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: but to get someone like Michael and be able to 520 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: get some pressure then at least up the middle, I 521 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: think would be huge. And you know, last week, my 522 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: thing that I was excited to see was Xavier Wood 523 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: and Everson Griffin going against the Cowboys. Michael Pierce is 524 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: going to have that extra motivation if he gets on 525 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: the field, and I think you're dead on with that. 526 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: Is just to say, it's going to be exciting to 527 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: see if he actually gets out there and plays, and honestly, 528 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't, it's always great to have somebody 529 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: on your side who is has familiarity with the team 530 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: that you're going against. Like so, I think that you 531 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: know his presence is important in the meeting rooms. Is 532 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: this weekend hopefully on the field? Two cavee you want 533 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: to go next. One thing you're excited about for this matchup. 534 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited about Dalvin Cook in the past game versus 535 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: this Baltimore Ravens defense. They're the number I think they're 536 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: top five run defense in the NFL, having given up 537 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: one hundred yard rusher, but they have given up over 538 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: three hundred sixty rush receiving yards to running backs. So 539 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: Dalvin hasn't had that big receiving game yet. I think 540 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: he only has like seventy three reception yards. He hasn't 541 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: been involved in the past game much. And this Baltimore 542 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Ravens team they like to blitz. They blitz a lot's 543 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: thirty two percent at the time they were seeing the 544 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks sending five six guys and if Dalvin's not setting up, 545 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, blocking upping in the interior, leaking him out 546 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: in space, getting him one on one against a linebacker. 547 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I take my chances with Dalvin versus any linebacker in 548 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I think this week, if they're going 549 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: to try to double up JJ or failing like teams 550 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: have been doing the past couple of weeks, that leaves 551 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: opportunities for Dalvin in the past game to be able 552 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: to create some space and create some long catches. Similar 553 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: like I'm expecting a Green Bay Packer s in the 554 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: receiving game for Dalvin cut this upcoming Sunday. Would you 555 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: compare at all the type of pressure that the Cowboys 556 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: were able to put on the Vikings in any way 557 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: to the Ravens. Not really, because the Ravens they show blitz. 558 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Now they show Okay, the Cowboys they'll more they're more 559 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: so disguise it. And then they're saying guys late. So 560 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: I mean they like, Justin Houston is amazing. So Justin 561 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: Houston isn't better than Randy Gregory, but he's he's up there. 562 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: But you got I mean six guys at the line 563 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: of scrimmage on any given play just literally coming at you, 564 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: so you know what's coming. I'm just wondering how many 565 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: checkdowns we would say this week. I think a lot. 566 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: I think a lot. Yeah, I mean which is I 567 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: guess your point too, Yeah, I think that's why Dalvin 568 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: will have That's what That's why I'm very excited about that. UM, 569 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: good deal. Their secondary isn't that great, so they were 570 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: trying to double team somewhere. Plus, go, Jay, what are 571 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: you excited for this matchup? They've been minimally piggybacking off 572 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: of your take because I had a similar take. But 573 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: here's my question. What does Anthony Everett, Patrick, Queen Chuck Clark, 574 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey, and Brandon Stevens all have in common besides 575 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: playing in the secondary. Oh, they've all played like four 576 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: years in the NFL. I don't know. They are currently 577 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: their top five leading tacklers on their defense, so they 578 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: give up a ton of plays deep, especially and UM. 579 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: In past weeks, there's been a couple of times where 580 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, they you know, two of their top 581 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: three tacklers are their secondary. They're top five tacklers are 582 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: their secondary. So that to me, says with giving up 583 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety eight yards in the air on 584 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: average for this season, that has to be our exploitation 585 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: for this week. We have to get some pass plays, 586 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: which means offensive line wise, they have to give Kirk 587 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: time and if they do that is going to be something. 588 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: As you were just saying, as aggressive as they are defensively, 589 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: we have to have the time in order to make 590 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: sure that we can get feeling jj kJ and even 591 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: the tight ends out in space Dalvin as well, and 592 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: get some time because there will be some big plays 593 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: to be had there. It just turns into how much 594 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: of a ropead out game are you going to play 595 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: or is this going to be a bunch of haymakers 596 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: and trying to hit some big shots deep. And for me, 597 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: that the consistency piece of this has been how much 598 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: time is Kirk going to get? If he gets the time, 599 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: he can kill you. That is the same going to 600 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: be the same kind of success against this Baltimore team, 601 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: because if they're going to line up I mean in 602 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: some situations on film they were showing they were lining 603 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: up ten guys on the line, like that's how aggressive 604 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: they were getting. That just means there's going to be 605 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: one on one on the back end, and so hopefully 606 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: our receiving options are going to have those one on 607 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: one matchups. And I feel confident knowing JJ and Feeling 608 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: especially can shake a guy. And with kJ, if he 609 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: can get out in space as well, he can definitely 610 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: burn someone. So that that is my biggest thing I 611 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: think for this game is going into it saying you 612 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: got to give Kirk time so that you can hit 613 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: those those shots down the field. Well, it always feels 614 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: like the offensive line has bounced back performances after you know, 615 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: especially when you look at the first two games of 616 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: the season, if it was a game where they weren't 617 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: allowing Kirk to have some more mobility in the pocket 618 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: to have some time back there, that the next game 619 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: they really just stepped up. And so that's what I'm 620 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: hoping to see from them this week for sure. For sure, 621 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: I know if you get the balling your playmakers hands 622 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: against this Baltimore Ravens defense, there will be opportunities to 623 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: make plays. I think they give up the They've given 624 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: up the most yards after catch more than any team 625 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, So the opportunities will be there. You 626 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: can turn the film on and say, well, c j 627 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Uzama from the Bengals had that long catch and then 628 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase had the long catch. But outside of that, 629 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: they are still giving up a lot of passing yards. 630 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: I think it's like right now and they're giving him 631 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: like over two thousand passing yards most Enfranchise history in 632 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: the first seven games. So just get the ball, Just 633 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: get the ball out quick and let those guys make plays. 634 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he Kirk took longer against the Cowboys 635 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: to get the ball out I think than he has 636 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: all game. And I'm not I'm not putting that solely 637 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: on him either, because like you guys said, I mean, 638 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: if the on line isn't keeping him clean and giving 639 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: him that little bit of time to get the ball out, 640 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: then he's having to check down and whatnot. But I 641 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: think getting the ball out quickly is going to be 642 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: key to Gabe's point, because I do think that we 643 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: can make something happen against this defense. All right, Well, 644 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: I will go with what I am excited about, and 645 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just kind of piggyback off of my vent 646 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: session because when you're one of thirteen on third down, 647 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: you can only go up. And that's what I'm excited 648 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: about this team to this point of allowing big plays 649 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: and this kind of leaky defense. They're allowing opponents to 650 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: convert on third down. The only with thirty third down 651 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: stoppage rate, So it's unfortunately similar to ours. I think, 652 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: so I am ready to go. I think that we 653 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: need to take advantage of those take some shots, and 654 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: I just I'm excited to see these guys have fun. 655 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: And I think, to me, that's my biggest takeaway from 656 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: this past week. It didn't feel fun, and football's fun, 657 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: and I want, you know, I think when the players 658 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: are having a good time, they feel like they're like 659 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: like they're not like feeling the pressure of the situation. 660 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: They're loose, They're playing the game. That's what I think 661 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: you love to see. And I think sometimes you have 662 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: to take a step back and realize, like it's just 663 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: a game, Like let's just go out there, do our 664 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: jobs and have a good time. Because I play football 665 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: for a living, yeah, so I do. In order to 666 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: do that, I think they have some success early in 667 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: order to just start, you know, not spiral a little 668 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: bit and go, oh no, here we go again. It's 669 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: like you know, hup, hit a couple early shots, hit 670 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: a couple of nice plays to either move the sticks, 671 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: but definitely punch it in the end zone, and just 672 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: get that feeling of Okay, we got this. At least 673 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: we're doing something here. I think the frustrating part of 674 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: the game for me again with Dallas was it felt 675 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: similar to Cleveland and that you marched on the field 676 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: and we all know I mean Zimmer's done in the 677 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: past to other teams, which is we're going to play 678 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: a certain kind of defense. Let's see what they do. Okay, 679 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: once we know what they want to do with their 680 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: game plan, take that away and see how they react 681 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: to it. That is the point. I think that if 682 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: you can then turn around and have not just one, 683 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: but at least a couple of sustained drives and really 684 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: make that happen, I think that'll mentally just put them 685 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: in the right frame of Okay, today's a different day, 686 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: let's do this. There was no rhythm on Sunday, and 687 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: when you can get into a rhythm, then it's fun, 688 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: right because because when you're going three and out, you're 689 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: not finding any sort of rhythm or groove for your team. 690 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: This might be a weird thing to say, but I 691 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: think even if you have a drive sometimes that maybe 692 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: doesn't end in a touchdown, but it eats up a 693 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of clock, It gets you into a rhythm, It 694 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: gives your defense time to rest. Like you have to 695 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: put together longer drives even though knowing that you know 696 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: probably not everyone is going to end in a touchdown, 697 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: but the three and outs have to stop. Yeah. Fun, 698 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: I feel like fun is complementary. Yeah, Like fun is 699 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: the kicker making a forty yard field goal, like Lindsay said, 700 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: after a long drive and the defense having a stop 701 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: and then the offense going on like that, capitalizing on 702 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: a turnover or something. And I'm not trying to make 703 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: an excuse here, but I do think playing on prime 704 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: time after a bye week, after winning two games in 705 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: a row, that's a lot of pressure. It's and that 706 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: can make you tight. And I feel like we played 707 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: very tight to start the game off after that first drive, 708 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: So I feel like now the nerves are out of 709 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: the picture. We know we got to start winning these games. 710 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, let's just go out here and just 711 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: enjoy this thing and play assignment oriented football. They know 712 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: how talented they are. They know they have the pieces, 713 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: it's just coming up with that full, complete game performance. 714 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: So speaking of what complete game performances, let's talk about 715 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: what makes us a little bit nervous about this matchup. 716 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: And I'm actually gonna just open the four up to 717 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: this one and we're just gonna all say it at 718 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: one time what we're nervous about in three two one 719 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Jackson. I thought we were all gonna say, Jackson, 720 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: that was poorly time, guys, mister Jackson, Yes, mister Jackson, 721 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: mister Lamar Jackson. Yeah. Well, I mean, Lindsay, it's always 722 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: tough when you face an NFL MVP, but when you 723 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: face someone as talented as Lamar Jackson, you know what 724 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: makes you nervous about. I think the biggest thing with 725 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is just he's a Swiss army knife, you know, 726 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: Like if you take away one part of his game, 727 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: he's got another part that he can go to. He's 728 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: not one dimensional, and that's that's what's nerve racking um 729 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: for me. The thing that I'm thinking about is, I'm 730 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: sure everybody else in this room here can touch on 731 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: his ability to run, and I think he has like 732 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: the fifth most rushing yards or something like that in 733 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: the league right now. It's crazy. So that obviously, I 734 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: think is the first thing that people think of, But 735 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm just nervous too to see sort of how they 736 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: attack our defense because without Denial being there with the 737 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: pass rush, it makes things a little bit more difficult 738 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: on the secondary, which is also missing Patrick Peterson right now. 739 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: And so I'm just you know, I think in the 740 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: past game and the run game, it can be tough, 741 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: but that the aspect that he's not one dimensional is 742 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: what makes me nervous because you can't really key in 743 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: on just one aspect of his game and shut him down. 744 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: We've seen a couple of those kinds of quarterbacks already 745 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: this season, though, yep, and we're going to see some more, um, 746 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: you know. For for him, though you really look at 747 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: the stats and you say he's the leading rusher, he's 748 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: the leading passer. My guess is if he could throw 749 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: the ball to himself, he'd be the leading receivers probably. 750 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: He's just he's one of those guys that if you 751 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: go through and you watch even like the micd Up 752 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: segments from earlier this season and some of those pieces 753 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: Harball just looks at him when it gets to crunch 754 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: time especially, and says, what do you want to do? 755 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: And it's I want to go for a coach, But 756 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: that's just it. It's it's the cool part about seeing 757 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: that is just seeing even Hardball looking at him and saying, 758 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, I trust you to make the play. So 759 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: what are you feeling right now? And it's like, Okay, 760 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: if you want to go for it, we're gonna go 761 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: for it if you don't. And here's the thing. When 762 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: you get a guy like that and he looks at 763 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: him and says, you know, what do you want to do? 764 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever going to say, yeah, I'm 765 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: going to sit this one out, coach. You know, it's more, 766 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: but it's more of an empowering thing just to say 767 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: you are the guy you are, you are a playmaker, 768 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: you are the best playmaker on the field. What do 769 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: you want to do? And I think for him having 770 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: faith in him with a coach like that just has 771 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: to be even putting him to that next level. So 772 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: I think that is the scariest part is to say 773 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: we all know what the game plan is, we all 774 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: know who's going to have the ball, and it's how 775 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: do you stop? So I that is why for me, 776 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: the nerves are just going, like yeah, he It begins 777 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: and ends with Lamar Jackson million dollar question, how do 778 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: you stop him? Gabe? Would you like to answer the 779 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: million dollar question? How do you stop him? I don't 780 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: think you can. I think it's more so containing. Yeah, 781 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: you contain him, because he's gonna like if Lamar doesn't 782 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: have fifty yards rushing on Sunday, like that'll shock everybody. Yeah, 783 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: there's gonna be at least one or two big plays 784 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: like they're just it's going. There's going to be and 785 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: I think you have to be okay with that. But 786 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: I think you have to be assignment oriented. Also, the Bengals, 787 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: after watching film what they did. They just blitz them 788 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: through the A gap and then told their defensive answer, 789 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: just hold their tackles and say, okay, well, if he 790 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: gets outside of you, he's gonna run run into your arm. 791 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: So don't get a filled, don't go under, just do 792 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: your assignment. Let everybody else do their job. And you 793 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: really have to be detailed when you play with Lamar Jackson. 794 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: You can't you can't go after the sack when you 795 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: go after the sack. That's when he burns you for 796 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: sixty yards. Now, it's just, hey, my gap is five 797 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: yards wide and three yards up the field, and after that, 798 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about anything else. I did 799 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: my job. Opposed to playing gay Ryan Tannehill, where you 800 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: can get pressure and put pressure in his face. Now 801 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: is drawn up some nice blitzes in the interior and 802 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: telling your exterior to just hold the guy up. But 803 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: still you can do all of that in Lamark and 804 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: burn you for eighty yard touchdown in a three hundred 805 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: yards passing but you can still beat him. That's the 806 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: same game plan we've used in the past for Russell Wilson. 807 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: It's the same thing we had talked about doing for 808 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It's the same kind of thing. It's like, Yeah, 809 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: as nasty as they can be inside the pocket is 810 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: one thing, but when they get outside the pocket, that's 811 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: when bad things happened, right and hopefully now, I mean 812 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: this is where even missing Denil even more, being able 813 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: to squeeze on that edge is something that's that's potentially 814 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: an issue. But you know that's going to be up 815 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: to Patterson and the Zimmers to you know, put a 816 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: game plan in place in order to try to neutralize 817 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: him as by as they can. Lucky for them, the 818 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: Bengals lay in a nice little blueprint for everyone in 819 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: the league to see how how you can potentially contain 820 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: and try to keep Lamar Jackson under wraps. Um you know, 821 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't I think this game Sammy Watkins maybe coming back, 822 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: Latavius Murray maybe coming back, so they do get some 823 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: more offensive weapons into the mix. So so at the 824 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, though, like you said, the million 825 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: dollar question, how do you stap Lamar Jackson? And I 826 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: have a feeling that that will be much discussed this 827 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: week over here at Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance Center. But 828 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: for now we're gonna slowly wrap up the day in 829 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: this podcast Minism of Vikings podcast, Lindsay, is there anything 830 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: that you are working on that people should look out for? 831 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: We do have some some fun stuff coming up. Always 832 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for Purple Pubs content that's going 833 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: to be coming up here in the few weeks. I mean, 834 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: I can never not plug that, right, So it's just 835 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: haven't seen that you're really missing out, especially if you're 836 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: a dog lover. Absolutely, I also have a already coming 837 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: out here in probably a week or two about I 838 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: don't want to give too much away, but kind of 839 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: of another piece of Eric Hendricks and his fiance and 840 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: kind of some stuff that they're doing in in the 841 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: community to really give back. And I can just never 842 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: say enough good things about Eric and what he's doing. 843 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: I know that he was featured recently on The Today 844 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: Show for his work with All Square and things like that. 845 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: So um, some off field things that I'm really excited about. 846 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: And I always appreciate, you know, fans checking in and 847 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: seeing what we're working on. That's awesome. Gabe the Audible 848 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: this week, who's we got Brian O'Neill and he's bringing 849 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: in Christian Darisaul very nice. So we're talking to the 850 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: two anchors, the exterior anchors of the offensive line. So 851 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: we haven't heard too much from Christian. That'll be great 852 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: to have him. Yeah, glad, glad to have him on 853 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: this team. He is a beast and I think a 854 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: lot of Vikings fans are starting to see that. So 855 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: to be able to get to know who he is 856 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: outside or when his helmet is off, that'll be pretty 857 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: cool to do today. So he's from Maryland too. It's 858 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: from Maryland, so going home Brano. No, it grew up 859 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: an hour from Baltimore. So to Christian Darisa, all so nice. 860 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 1: There's some kind of tied version. Yeah, so that'll be fun. 861 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: And Jay, we've got Vikings Vantage this Friday. We've got 862 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: Saint Paul Native and former Raven who want to ring 863 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: with those guys. Matt Burke joined in the show here 864 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: for this Friday, so it'll be good to catch up 865 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: with Matt and get his take on not only this 866 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore team, but his time in Baltimore. So I'm looking 867 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: forward to being able to catch up with mister Burke 868 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: and see what he's got to say about this upcoming 869 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: matchup this weekend. Yeah, we've got Friday Football Feast this 870 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: week out in Elk River, so I will be is 871 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: my turn on the rotation, gave it. I always have 872 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: to pitch off. Yeah, so I'm going to Elk River. 873 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: I'm pumped. I like it. It gives me a little 874 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: quick tour of Minnesota every time we go out to 875 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 1: these things, and we love to see fans out there. 876 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: It's nine to noon on Kfan. If you can't make 877 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: it to Elk river. But if you can make it 878 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: a person, it's always fun when there's a crowd. Or 879 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: if you can't make it, make sure you tune in 880 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: out eleven because that's Tatum will be on. Oh probably 881 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: around listen, just listen to a like eleven o'clock. That 882 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: that timeframe, she'll be one. We like to have a 883 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: little fun around there. But guys, we have a chance 884 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: to get back to five hundred this weekend on the 885 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: road at Baltimore facing Lamar Jackson and the Ravens Tall task. 886 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: But again, you know, it's another week to start over 887 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: to bounce back after this past weekend. Thank you so 888 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: much to vikings dot Com staff writer Lindsay Young for 889 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: being our guest on the podcast this week. Thank you 890 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: next to her. We always love having her here. For 891 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: Gabe Henderson, Jay Nelson, I'm Tatum Everett. Thanks for listening.