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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we recognize Thanksgiving. That's the

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Speaker 1: best holiday on the board. I'm Greg Rosenthal, and I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to a group of skeptical people, Steve Weiss, Colleen Wolf,

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Speaker 1: and Jordan rod Rig You're not with me.

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Speaker 2: No, no, okay, I'm leaning all in.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 4: It's ours.

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Speaker 1: There's not as much like pressure, you know. It's just

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Speaker 1: like food. It's centered around.

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Speaker 5: The food, making food, and then we'll be defined on

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Speaker 5: the recipe and how you execute it.

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Speaker 2: That's a little bit of appeals, right, you know it? Well, Colleen,

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Speaker 2: you know the bigger issue with Thanksgiving is to clean up. Oh,

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Speaker 2: because people will bail in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 3: I can't with people who don't clean as they go.

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Speaker 1: Plus you know it. Plus you know what else? Thanksgivings

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Speaker 1: what it's American? You know, Christmas? I mean, what's caused

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Speaker 1: more strife and world history than religion that could divide

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Speaker 1: the people?

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: She brings it togetheriving the colonization.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it is, it is American.

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Speaker 3: Climb in the bed and read about it at night

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Speaker 3: too and feel real.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've lost my notes.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going nuts, said Steve a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: This is our Thanksgiving show, and this is going to

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Speaker 1: be the same crew for our Week thirteen preview. We're

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Speaker 1: really making some progress here. We're into the teens. But yes,

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Speaker 1: it is a double show day. The shows will go

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Speaker 1: up separate though, and man, we've got bangers on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I do want to warn you early in the show.

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Speaker 1: We are also going to tack on just a little

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Speaker 1: segment at the end. Colleen suggested this as a joke

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Speaker 1: over text, but I'm taking her up on that. We

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Speaker 1: will be drafting soup. What is the best soup at

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Speaker 1: the Eric famously last week said he did not believe

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Speaker 1: soup was masculine, and.

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Speaker 4: Essentially, I did not say not mastering.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like it's a waste. Like if you're

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Speaker 2: going on in your orders soup, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: He knows what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: He said, it's not really like a thing that men

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Speaker 1: should be doing.

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Speaker 3: The soup is for women.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thing that we said, Yes, that's what you're.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna prove how great

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Speaker 1: soup is one of the great things that you can

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Speaker 1: have in the world food Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: So we'll wrap the show. That's what people are going

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Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving dinner for soup.

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Speaker 1: No, it's the soup actually has nothing to do really

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Speaker 1: with the Thanksgiving show, but it's food.

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Speaker 4: The soup came up last week and let's talk.

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Speaker 6: Paul Greg just blowing up the group.

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Speaker 4: Chat Packers Lions.

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Speaker 1: This is potentially the best Thanksgiving slate since I've worked

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Speaker 1: here at NFL Network, but that's like thirteen years. And

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Speaker 1: in this game in particular, Packers Lions might be as

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Speaker 1: import in a game as we've had on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 1: Really, these two teams, Steve, who both started the year

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Speaker 1: with real Super Bowl hopes, And I'm not saying it's over,

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Speaker 1: but whoever who loses this game is in a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: They're really gonna be in third place in this division

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Speaker 1: with not that many games to go.

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Speaker 2: It means a lot.

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Speaker 7: For both these well, especially Detroit because in Green Bay

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Speaker 7: down to a tiebreaker swords, so that's huge. And I

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Speaker 7: think this is gonna play out the same way because

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Speaker 7: as much as the Lions can look good and this

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Speaker 7: and that their offensive line is not what it was,

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Speaker 7: they lost some people. They've had some injury issues. A

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Speaker 7: couple of guys are really held together by tape, you know,

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Speaker 7: and so that Packers defront they're they're coming for you,

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Speaker 7: and they're they're getting better overall. So I think if

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Speaker 7: this is gonna play out just like the first game

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Speaker 7: and Michael Parsons just showed up like Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: wreck everything, I think it could play out the exact

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Speaker 7: same way.

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Speaker 1: And the Packers defense is coming to this game playing

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Speaker 1: very well, coming off one of their best games. I

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Speaker 1: should have mentioned we don't have Patrick here, who usually

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Speaker 1: is like reading the.

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Speaker 4: Lines and the announcers and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a two and a half point line, and

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Speaker 1: of course because it's Thanksgiving, it's it's the most watched

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Speaker 4: You got the A team with Tom Brady and Burchard.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe it's striking how we've always known Jared Goff

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Speaker 8: in pressure do not go well together, right, We've always

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Speaker 8: known that, But it's so striking, especially with what Steve

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Speaker 8: mentioned is the issues with the offensive line. How dramatic

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Speaker 8: the jextaposition is with Jared Goff when he is getting

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Speaker 8: pressured and the Packers are doing it in a variety

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Speaker 8: of ways outside inside sending blitz. They're sending sims like

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Speaker 8: they're where it looks like they're gonna pressure, but then

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Speaker 8: they back off like it's just there. It's very confusing

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Speaker 8: for any quarterback to handle. Jared Goff is completing just

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Speaker 8: forty six percent of his passes against pressure with pronection stats,

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Speaker 8: two touchdowns, two interceptions. When he's clean without pressure eighty

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Speaker 8: percent completed passes, nineteen touchdowns and two interceptions. So the

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Speaker 8: name of the game for for Green Bay is hassel

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Speaker 8: and worry Jared Roff. Do everything you can to contain

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Speaker 8: Jamiir Gibbs, who's playing lights out right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly what I was going to say.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure how when they have Michael Parsons able

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Speaker 5: to put this much pressure on the quarterback and then

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Speaker 5: play this well against the run. How I mean, Obviously,

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Speaker 5: the Lions generate so many points and they have so

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Speaker 5: many different things that they can do, But with Jamiir

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Speaker 5: Gibbs being such a big part of the offense's success

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Speaker 5: and Jared Goff in general, how are they going to

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Speaker 5: get things going? Because I think that the defense for

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Speaker 5: the Packers is really going to be the star of

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Speaker 5: the show. On Thanksgiving when we're used to Dan Campbell

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Speaker 5: kind of being the guy and pulling things off. Because

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Speaker 5: it was that Thanksgiving game how many years ago now

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Speaker 5: where if they didn't where is it the Bills that

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Speaker 5: they were playing. They didn't quite win the game, but

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Speaker 5: it was the first time where everyone was like, oh

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Speaker 5: my god, wait the Lions.

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Speaker 3: They've put up a decent fight here and they looked

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Speaker 3: really good.

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Speaker 5: And then after that it was the second half of

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Speaker 5: the season that they completely took off, and.

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Speaker 4: That is a great memory.

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Speaker 1: They lost that game twenty eight to twenty five, and yes,

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Speaker 1: then they won five out of their next Bix games

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Speaker 1: to finish that season nine and eight.

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Speaker 2: How about the big brain eye, Colleen, that's great.

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Speaker 5: Everyone is shocked, including Colleagen.

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Speaker 7: Look, it's one of the few times we were like, wow,

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Speaker 7: that your good Lions Thanksgiving game, because usually was like, okay,

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Speaker 7: let's just blow through that until we get to the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys game.

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Speaker 2: But now it's mussy television. Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 7: The first time they played nine carries nineteen yards, that's different.

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Speaker 7: I mean they're a different football team right now. So

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Speaker 7: the Packers, I mean, if they clog up the middle

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Speaker 7: of that of that line, there's gonna be no lanes

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Speaker 7: for Gibbs to hit.

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Speaker 1: My head agrees with all that, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Packers are coming into this game overall having more answers,

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Speaker 1: and yet these teams are close enough to me. I

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Speaker 1: do think, you know, forget about you know, holiday magic,

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving magic for the Lions as a home team. And yes,

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Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs at a point last week where you know,

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Speaker 1: I saw someone point out like that game last week,

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Speaker 1: like that's what it was like being around when when

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Speaker 1: Barry was around, like a game where running back can

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Speaker 1: is a way to attack this Packers defense, They're good

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Speaker 1: overall in general, but I'd rather do it on the ground.

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Speaker 1: He is playing a higher percentage of snaps than he's

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Speaker 1: he's ever done, And so can I see Jamir Gibbs

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Speaker 1: just having a moment here on Thanksgiving. And when I

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Speaker 1: look at these teams overall, even though there's some weaknesses

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Speaker 1: here with the Lions, they seem like a pair of

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Speaker 1: teams that should split. And so I'm just believing in

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Speaker 1: like the Holiday magic of it all. Somehow Detroit finds

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Speaker 1: a way because that's that's a great home fan base.

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Speaker 1: Last week they were chanting, let's go Lions, let's go

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Speaker 1: Lines while they're losing to the Giants. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's another fan base in the league that wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: like so sad and disappointing them. Owment Instead they're lifting

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Speaker 7: No paper bags anymore, No, no paper bags. I mean

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Speaker 7: that's what Dan Campbell's got this team. This is gonna

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Speaker 7: be a good game. And you know what, the Lions defense.

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Speaker 7: This gives them credit.

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Speaker 6: Oh I love this defense.

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Speaker 7: I mean the way they're they're playing, they're not going

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Speaker 7: to make it easy for Jordan Love. Adon Hutchinson is

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Speaker 7: playing as well as any edge rusher outside of Miles

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Speaker 8: It's fantastic to see the combination of talent and coaching

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Speaker 8: meet at each other, where it has for Detroit's defense

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Speaker 8: this year under Calvin Sheppard.

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Speaker 6: These guys play fast, they're tough.

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Speaker 8: Even when they were known as the Legion of Whom

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Speaker 8: They they just brought it every single week, and they

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Speaker 8: Until last week, but I mean, jamis game weird stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna call that one an outlier on this season,

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Speaker 8: and it's this defense is so excellent and we cannot

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Speaker 8: forget guys. Jordan Love is playing with like basically one

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Speaker 8: working arm right now and just even handing on, handing

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Speaker 8: out off with the opposite arm last week, So you

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Speaker 8: really have to watch out for that in this game.

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Speaker 9: Quickly does Kelvin Sheppard gets of interviews even if he's

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Speaker 9: this is exactly where he's going exactly like not he

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Speaker 9: may not get a head coach job, but a lot

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Speaker 9: of people do these interview these guys like Okay, maybe

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Speaker 9: not this year, but next year we will have on

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: Just the way that he is on the sideline, I

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Speaker 5: feel like that his energy is so palpable and you

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Speaker 5: can see how his players respond to him. Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 5: was the same type of way in Detroit, but to

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Speaker 5: see Kelvin Shepard in that role is just, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: it's different. He has this like aura about him, almost

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Speaker 5: like I want to run through a wall for him.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of Rob Robert Sala.

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Speaker 2: When he was.

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Speaker 8: If Athley is going to be a darling of this

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Speaker 8: coaching cycle the way a lot of people are projecting

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Speaker 8: him to be, Kelvin Shepherd should be right up there

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Speaker 8: with him because of the job that he's done.

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Speaker 1: Well this This will be a big showcase for him

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving because I do think the Giants expose a

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Speaker 1: few things, Like in their zone coverage last week. You

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Speaker 1: got to be a talented quarterback to hit those honey

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Speaker 1: hole shots. Yeah, over and over in the zone, and

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Speaker 1: Jamous just kept doing it, and Jordan Love can do that,

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Speaker 6: I think it's all defense.

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Speaker 8: I think it's all defense, and I think Green Bay's

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Speaker 7: A lot of guys should freelance and try and get

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Speaker 4: I'll make you guys pick this this week.

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Speaker 6: I'm taking the packers.

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Speaker 2: I'm going pack all the Lions.

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Speaker 3: The Lions with you.

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Speaker 1: Colleen was in a tough spot because I know what

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Speaker 2: It's with the Falcon put out for yo.

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Speaker 5: It's just like all right, and I guess I'll go

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Speaker 8: Was a social media manager's version of the U up text.

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Speaker 2: I know. I was like hr because it was like

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Speaker 4: By the way, that works for NFL network.

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Speaker 1: Why was only one person taking the freaking Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 2: Give me a break?

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Speaker 1: I say Steve that I love that it's at this

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Speaker 4: What made you say wow?

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Speaker 7: Because it's in Dallas, because the home game, you know,

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Speaker 7: this game is going to be so good because both

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Speaker 2: Don't have an answer for Mahomes with his feet.

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Speaker 7: I know overshown can cover a lot of ground, but

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Speaker 7: is going to do his thing. But man, Dallas, they're

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Speaker 2: Was going to work.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I love it, But the fact that he tandems

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Speaker 8: I see Jordan m m Yes, I was the lone

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Speaker 6: And they're playing so much better. They have improved.

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Speaker 8: I'm not willing to put my faith in this defense

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Speaker 8: And the second thing that I absolutely love, one of

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was gonna be fine.

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Speaker 8: And this offense and how much fun it is and

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Speaker 8: they're doing it right now because they really have nothing

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Speaker 5: I think that Dak Prescott will outduel Patrick Mahome in

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Speaker 5: this game. I just think Ceede Lamb George Pickens has

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Speaker 7: I'll due him in yards or like impact plays and

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Speaker 3: The timing of the impact.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, and this is also Patrick Mahomes'

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Speaker 10: High school those championships down there, that's hard to believe, right,

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Speaker 10: Or maybe it is the first time he's starting there

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Speaker 7: See, this is where you know you talk about Dak

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Speaker 7: Sean Paton, which coach loves the screen game more than anyone,

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Speaker 7: They're gonna do these ten play drives, you know, type

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Speaker 2: And they did that so well last week.

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Speaker 7: Real quickly when you were talking about how you know

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Speaker 1: The problem is that's what That's what Patrick Mahomes I

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Speaker 10: Steve reads, Oh my God's beat deep.

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Speaker 8: Also, I also loved what you said, Steve about the

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Speaker 8: I think against the way that this mid season rebuild

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Speaker 6: For the Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: So I like what you said about the screen game

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Speaker 6: Your run game.

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Speaker 8: You're using more players in it as well, and that

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Speaker 5: By the way, I have the answer here, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: Good job, big one.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious too, how Spagnolo and Chris Jones in particular

444
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Speaker 1: play in this game, because last week it felt like

445
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs that we've known before. Yeah, in that Spagnolo

446
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: had so many different pressures in the second half of

447
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: that game that they it was gotta have it down,

448
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: and he completely won the matchup after he figured out

449
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: what Chane Stikeen was doing, Like he had a great game,

450
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: and then Chris Jones got them off the field like

451
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Speaker 1: three times, like three.

452
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Speaker 4: Different times on third down. He was the guy.

453
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Speaker 1: And so it's just that creeping feeling if you've watched

454
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Speaker 1: the NFL over the last seven years ago, this is

455
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Speaker 1: this happening again. But it's a really tough matchup against

456
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Speaker 1: this this Cowboys.

457
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Speaker 2: Often, if.

458
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Speaker 3: I don't want to do what the Chief's done, is

459
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Speaker 3: the dynasty over?

460
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Speaker 2: I will?

461
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say.

462
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Speaker 5: What I would they could survive like one more I

463
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 5: would like.

464
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Speaker 1: Like, damn, that's gonna be the rundown to I'm rooting.

465
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the Cowboys. So I'm just gonna take

466
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys just because I want. I want that feeling

467
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: of rooting for something that you almost know for sure

468
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. That's actually part of sports. That's

469
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Speaker 1: how I felt watching the Colts last I just build

470
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Speaker 1: them up to let them down. I just I just

471
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Speaker 1: I like, I almost know for sure they're going to lose,

472
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Speaker 1: because that's just what happens. Like the Chiefs will win

473
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: this game, and I just want to be disappointed.

474
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

475
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Speaker 5: I don't think you're right. I think that the Chiefs

476
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Speaker 5: all right, that the Cowboys will win.

477
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Speaker 2: But I'm okay the Cowboys. I'm picking the Cowboys.

478
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Speaker 8: Been on the Cowboys all year, so I gotta pick WHOA.

479
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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe Cowboys mix it up a little bit. Mahomes'

481
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: numbers against me in coverage have been terrible this year. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: mix it up, Cowboys, mix it up.

483
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Speaker 6: We also have.

484
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Speaker 2: They they got some guys who can play man.

485
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Speaker 1: A lot of the fell Dailiens out there listening to

486
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Speaker 1: this show. We got a couple more big games for

487
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Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving and Black Friday set up.

488
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Speaker 4: Will hit them after the break. We will also hit

489
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Speaker 4: that Super draft.

490
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a little lady for homework.

491
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Speaker 6: But I don't need to go.

492
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Speaker 1: Back on NFL daily tension in the room with the

493
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Speaker 1: soup draft coming up. No, I'm kidding, there's no tension.

494
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Speaker 1: The vibes are great. It's a pre holiday vibe is

495
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Speaker 1: and I'm bathing in it before the best.

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Speaker 7: Uh here, but bathing, But men don't take bath don't

497
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Speaker 7: take baths either.

498
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Speaker 4: Eric's okay. I will admit, Eric, don't you worry.

499
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Speaker 1: I misattributed the manosphere take that Eric didn't believe that

500
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Speaker 1: men have super He just has his own completely horrible

501
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Speaker 1: take That soup is unnecessary.

502
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Speaker 4: But it's not about the men. It's not.

503
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Speaker 2: It never is.

504
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Speaker 4: We'll get to that in the end.

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Speaker 1: First we're going to get to uh, We're gonna get

506
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Speaker 1: to a game that is a little spicier than we expected,

507
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a few weeks ago. Although if you

508
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: had said before the season that the Bengals would be

509
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: all but eliminated from playoff contention before this game, like

510
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Speaker 1: I would not have believed it. So it's better. But

511
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: it's not great. We also will not have Trey Hendrickson

512
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: in this game. We will not have t Higgins in

513
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Speaker 1: this game. Zack Taylor of the Bengals did confirm that,

514
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Speaker 1: but he does expect Joe Burrow to play. The Bengals

515
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Speaker 1: are going to Baltimore on Thursday night. The Ravens are

516
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Speaker 1: favored by seven in this game. Now, Chris Collinsworth takes

517
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Speaker 1: off Thanksgiving, and I support that spending the time with

518
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Speaker 1: the family, But I'm less excited about Jason Garrett being

519
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Speaker 1: on the call for this game with Tariko.

520
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Speaker 8: Don't they get a lot of family time together anyway?

521
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Speaker 8: On the broadcast? How do you mean Chris and Jack Collinsworth?

522
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Speaker 2: Oh, there you go?

523
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Speaker 4: Is Jack working the game?

524
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

525
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Speaker 4: I don't think he has the something to take that

526
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Speaker 4: game off.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that the Ravens are favored, maybe by this month,

528
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Speaker 1: just because of how they have looked. How concerned Jordan

529
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: are you with how the Ravens have played offensively in

530
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Speaker 1: particular over the last month.

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Speaker 8: Very concerned when you also factor in the equation that

532
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Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson is showing up on the practice report or

533
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Speaker 8: the injury report and practice this week again with something

534
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 8: completely This is a toe now and he's been banged

535
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Speaker 8: up all year. I don't trust the Bengals still defensively

536
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Speaker 8: at all, but they are coming off their best defensive

537
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Speaker 8: performance by by far leaps and bounds this season. This

538
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 8: was kind of crazy looking this up because I knew

539
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Speaker 8: that the Ravens, and you see it with your eyes

540
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Speaker 8: every week watching how they've struggled to put any sort

541
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Speaker 8: of consistency or like total true dominance together drive over

542
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Speaker 8: drive on offense. They're nineteenth in EPA per play really

543
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Speaker 8: on offense, and.

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Speaker 6: Like this they should be primed for a bounce back game.

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Speaker 8: I guess again, historically this season what we've seen against

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Speaker 8: the Bengals defense that minus last week, has allowed a

547
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Speaker 8: successful play on over half.

548
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Speaker 3: Of team of Bengals.

549
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Speaker 8: So but but this is this Ravens team. I don't

550
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Speaker 8: quite know what to make of them identity wise, other

551
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 8: than they look like they're limping everywhere.

552
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Speaker 2: And that's By the way, we talked about Lamar.

553
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Speaker 7: First it was a knee, then ankled, and tow Judy

554
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 7: Battista put the heade. No very good post by Judy

555
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Speaker 7: on that I'm with you on the Ravens, just like

556
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 7: man Lamar just doesn't look right because when he's health

557
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 7: the game looks too easy to right, Like he's just

558
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 7: out there playing with everybody like he's grinding through whatever

559
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 7: he's grinding through. And then we're talking about Joe Burrow

560
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Speaker 7: being back. Why are we not talking about Joe Chase

561
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Speaker 7: coming back. I like the Bengals in this game. Their

562
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Speaker 7: defense is going to be as terrible as it wants.

563
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Speaker 7: Those two You like them to win, I win. I'm

564
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Speaker 7: going upset here, that would be I'm going on well

565
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Speaker 7: because look the Ravens, they have been grated at home.

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Speaker 7: They have not been consistently great. And I just think

567
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Speaker 7: Joe sisty he's coming back, He's not gonna be limpid.

568
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Speaker 2: He's gonna be smoking, right, He's gonna be going It's

569
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Speaker 2: gonna be smoking. We'll find out. We will find out.

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Speaker 2: Those Ravens linebackers, I think.

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Speaker 7: They'll pick on him a little bit. I think they're

572
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Speaker 7: gonna be able to run a little bit on the Ravens.

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Speaker 7: D I I like Joe, I like Joe, I like

574
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Speaker 7: tight End.

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Speaker 5: I do feel like this is a game where it's

576
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Speaker 5: the night cap on Thanksgiving. Everyone's sort of already thinks

577
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 5: that the Bengals are sort of done and they're they're washed,

578
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 5: they're played. At this point, they like they have a

579
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Speaker 5: tiny little chance to get back in things, and it's

580
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Speaker 5: like everything has to.

581
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Speaker 3: Go the right way.

582
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Speaker 5: But that's the kind of thing that happens on these

583
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Speaker 5: like island games and primetime games, especially Thanksgiving when all

584
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 5: of you, like your family is there. And I can't

585
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 5: even imagine what that would cause if the Bengals upset

586
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 5: the Ravens at home Thanksgiving night.

587
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Speaker 3: What happened in Baltimore. We don't want to know.

588
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

589
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: That's a scary crowd there. They have had the best.

590
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Speaker 1: I just mean I got up for that.

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Speaker 6: It's great environment.

592
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: The environment.

593
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: It's all with the great environment.

594
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 4: You know, out fits and everything it is. It is incredible.

595
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 6: This is just us trying to uh have Eric's back here.

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00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: There we go. I uh.

597
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Speaker 5: Their game press honestly though, it's the best. It's the

598
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 5: best in the girl's I mean, it's so fun. They

599
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 5: lean into everything and there's so much to look at

600
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 5: before Like, they do an incredible job. If you ever

601
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 5: get a chance to go to a Ravens game, go

602
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 5: it's awesome.

603
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Speaker 1: And I think this is the best rivalry in terms

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that I've seen of two guys in the

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00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: same division. Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are in different divisions,

606
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: but they do play like once or twice a year usually,

607
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Speaker 1: And you know, Patrick, or rather Tom Brady and Peyton

608
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: Manning like that was incredible at the time, but if

609
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: you go look at the performances that these two do

610
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: have had when they've gone up against each other, it

611
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: is incredible. Especially last season it was next level. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope Joe Burrow can deliver. He's coming off of

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Speaker 1: an injury. He's always really struggled in September. He's very

614
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: often struggling to come off an injury in September and

615
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: not played pretty well. And this is almost a similar

616
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Speaker 1: type of spot because he's coming out. So I hope

617
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: he's not rusty for lack of a better word, and

618
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: Lamar absolutely is. He has seventy five yards rushing in

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Speaker 1: the last four weeks. The first play of last week's

620
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: game was an RPO where he kept it and the

621
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Speaker 1: Jets just like we're like, go man, and you see

622
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Speaker 1: the yellow line, which is imaginary and Lamar's just like

623
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: breaks creeping up to it like you see it on

624
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: the broadcast. That's not in real life. It's actually just

625
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: like a broad and it looked like it was a

626
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: force field. There's like there's ten yards of green grass

627
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: in front of him, and it looked like a force

628
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: field that he's tiptoeing and he's hesitant, and then eventually

629
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Speaker 1: he finally goes and then he gets hit pretty hard

630
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Speaker 1: because he was so hesitant. Like that is not the

631
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: Lamar that I loved. And I think part of it

632
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: is too that the passing games not having any flow.

633
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely has one hundred and twenty yards this season.

634
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: Kylan Wallace and DeAndre Hopkins are out there for a

635
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: lot of the game.

636
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Speaker 4: Tes Walker like, it's just it's just uneven.

637
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: And so we'll see if the Bengals, who have looked

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00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: a little better on defense.

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00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

640
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 6: Here's the thing this Bengals team.

641
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Speaker 8: I know everybody's excited about Joe Burrow coming back, and

642
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 8: first of all, everyone please keep.

643
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Speaker 6: Their saliva in their mouths.

644
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 8: With Jamar Chase coming back, I will say, like this

645
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 8: just is ripe to me for the exact scenario that

646
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow himself would have been facing all season anyway

647
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 8: if he had been healthy with which is maybe they

648
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 8: get close enough offensively to stay in a game like this,

649
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 8: but the defense will let them down in the end.

650
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 8: This has been last week was the exception, not the

651
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 8: rule of this Bengals team. And I just think we're

652
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 8: going to see a pissed off Joe Burrow back in

653
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 8: the sort of the Hell's cycle, partially of his own

654
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 8: creation here.

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Speaker 1: And ultimately they gave up a ton to the Patriots

656
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: when they needed to get stops in that game.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean every yeah, I mean, that's that's

658
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 7: what the Bengals do. Their defense is terrible. I just

659
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 7: think this is one where the Ravens have been so inconsistent.

660
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 7: There will be a couple of punts by them, you know,

661
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 7: and if the Bengals have more possessions than them, I'm

662
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 7: taking Joey Burrow and Jamar Chase and I'll say this.

663
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Speaker 2: You know a lot of people like, why is Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow even coming back? Because you know the team's not good,

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna go to the playoffs. This is what

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Speaker 2: players do, right.

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Speaker 7: Players would rather be fined than miss a game, right,

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Speaker 7: They only get seventeen of them a year. And to

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Speaker 7: see Joe Burrow work as hard as he did to

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Speaker 7: come back from the team that's already stuck.

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Speaker 2: You know. We may say, well, he's getting paid a

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Speaker 2: lot of money, that's what he's supposed to do.

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Speaker 7: This goes to show you how game he is, you know,

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Speaker 7: and I want people to understand.

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Speaker 2: This is what This is how football players are. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like that is how they are. Wise.

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Speaker 8: I guarantee you he's not thinking about the game check.

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Speaker 8: He's thinking about getting that sick feeling out of his

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Speaker 8: stomach finally, and it's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: Like Thanksgiving night with him back on the field, returning

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Speaker 5: from this injury that seemed like it was he wasn't

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Speaker 5: gonna play at all at first when he first got hurt,

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Speaker 5: and then it's like, oh, he might be back in time.

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Speaker 3: For the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: It's just this whole season for the Bengals has been

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Speaker 5: so I want to say it's a roller coaster, but

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Speaker 5: there haven't been a lot of ups. It's just closely downs.

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Speaker 5: But coming back on Thanksgiving Night with Chase there, with

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Speaker 5: te Hagen there, there's.

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Speaker 1: Just something about it. It is feeling kind of like

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Speaker 1: their Super Bowl. He had a quote and he kind

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Speaker 1: of announced his return. I'm not going to live my

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Speaker 1: life and play this game scared of what might happen,

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Speaker 1: you know. And one thing that has changed for this team.

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Speaker 1: They were one of the worst rushing teams of all time.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about it in September. They've been awesome

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Speaker 1: running the ball week after week. Chase Brown has been

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Speaker 1: playing well, so the offense Joe Flacco slowed down a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but I think overall there's the pieces there

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Speaker 1: for them to play well. Kyle Hamilton, by the way,

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Speaker 1: was back at practice, as was Lamar Jackson on the

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Speaker 1: estimated report on Tuesday, So they're gonna be playing and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's up It's up to Lamar to prove that he

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Speaker 1: can do it even when he's protected. There was no

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Speaker 1: pass rush on him last week and they still struggled.

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Speaker 4: Let's pick that. Are you the only one taking the Bengals?

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Speaker 6: I can't, Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why we're picking games on the Bengals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do it. Your picks have to be consistent, though, that

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Speaker 1: means you have to do it across every NFL property. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: we don't normally do that. Let's wrap up this previous

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Speaker 1: show with our Black Friday game.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is a great one.

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Speaker 4: Bears going to Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Love this for the Bears as a real test of

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Speaker 1: where they're at, a step up in class. They had

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Speaker 1: a medium step up last week with the Steelers and

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Speaker 1: they ultimately passed it. And now this is another one.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are favored by seven. We got it on

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Speaker 1: Amazon and then we got it on NFL Daily. Right afterwards,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be doing a recap show of all

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Speaker 1: four games. Looking forward to that one. How are you

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Speaker 1: feeling about your Eagles, Colleen, as a heavy favorite with

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Speaker 1: everything going on against a team that's only lost three

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Speaker 1: games this year.

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Speaker 5: I know it feels like they've lost a lot more

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Speaker 5: just based on all of the talk around the team,

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Speaker 5: but they are so inconsistent and it's on both sides

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Speaker 5: of the ball.

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Speaker 3: And the collapse against.

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys that's a huge hit for them.

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Speaker 3: And now you have a short week.

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Speaker 5: Yes, they'll be home, and they had so many injuries

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Speaker 5: in the secondary and they lost three dvs in that game,

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Speaker 5: so that played a huge role.

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Speaker 4: Uba broke an angle not coming back reed blankenship. He

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Speaker 4: was hurt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this was this was not a good performance.

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Speaker 5: And this is a team that relies on their defense

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Speaker 5: when their offense is not giving what it should give

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Speaker 5: based on the playmakers that are on that team. And

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Speaker 5: still we had they we saw so many penalties that night,

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Speaker 5: like fourteen penalties. It just was that's coaching to me,

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Speaker 5: This is they're undisciplined. But then there's no imagination to

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Speaker 5: the play calling whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: It's so stagnant.

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Speaker 5: You come out in the first half and it looks

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Speaker 5: like you are just going to steamroll the Cowboys, and

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Speaker 5: then how does that happen in the second half, Like

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Speaker 5: there's no adjustments at any point.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: It's crazy that Philadelphia goes three and out at the

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Speaker 8: highest rate in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Which I did not know that not only they've gotten

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Speaker 1: at the highest rate since any team in the NFL

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Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 4: This was from Dennis Felman on all people.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's crazy the twenty fourteen Raiders, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if anyone can name any part of that team.

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Speaker 2: Though, well, the culture trying to catch up in the

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Speaker 2: second half.

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Speaker 8: Just I love what you said about that, Colleen, about

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Speaker 8: just how many playmakers they have relative to the production

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Speaker 8: level that we would expect from this versus what they're

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Speaker 8: not getting. They're in the bottom third of the NFL

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Speaker 8: in both rushing and passing success rate. And we know

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Speaker 8: that this team is predicated on how it runs the ball,

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Speaker 8: but it seemed like they got so dependent on having

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Speaker 8: an outlier or at least above average run game. And

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Speaker 8: it is not, like I said, lower third of the

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Speaker 8: NFL in rushing success rate, so you when you don't

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Speaker 8: have that normally, they could hide their passing game a

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Speaker 8: couple weeks in a row behind some complaints obviously and

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Speaker 8: all of that, but like they could also hide that

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Speaker 8: behind a below or in a very above average run

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Speaker 8: game that lifted the entire floor of the operation and

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Speaker 8: also converted these these downs that they're not getting right

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Speaker 8: now and extending these drives and all of that. And

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Speaker 8: I think that when you see that, you see how

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Speaker 8: much substance they should have, but how hollow they actually are.

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Speaker 8: And that is that's really tough. I want to excite

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Speaker 8: to let.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a that's a great analogy, though, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I want to say so.

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Speaker 8: Like Eagles columnists, the retired Les Bowen Love legendary.

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Speaker 2: And he's great on Twitter.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and that's exactly.

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Speaker 8: I'm so glad you you mentioned that, because like legendary guy,

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Speaker 8: and he's still part of the conversation. He weighs in

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Speaker 8: a lot, and he obviously knows all of the coach

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Speaker 8: speak and everything. And he translated translates it abou as

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Speaker 8: well as any columnist has ever done, I think, on

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Speaker 8: any beat in any market. And he said this, and

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Speaker 8: I thought it was telling when Nick sirian He said

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Speaker 8: it on Blue Sky. He said, when nicks Ariani says,

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Speaker 8: it's never just one thing or one person's fault, as

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Speaker 8: was the tone Nick Sirianni took after the Dallas loss,

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Speaker 8: What I with less hears is we can't fix this

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Speaker 8: when it's never any one person's fault. What he hears

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Speaker 8: is we can't fix this. And I'm like, that's that's stark.

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Speaker 8: That means there's too many holes to patch in his mind.

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Speaker 1: I think the offensive line not being a difference maker,

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Speaker 1: just to your point, sort of makes the rest of

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Speaker 1: it look hollow. You have a good left tackle in

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Speaker 1: my latta, but there's questions now everywhere else since Lane

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Speaker 1: Johnson isn't there.

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Speaker 2: It banged the others banged to week.

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Speaker 1: The thing is they do do some things well, like

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Speaker 1: I've I was thinking about this. They they've turned into

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts as a pert, like as an offense, They've

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Speaker 1: turned into Jalen Hurts because they are monsters in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. And one of the reasons why I was

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Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, like, how are some

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Speaker 1: of these numbers so stark the worst three and out

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Speaker 1: rate since the twenty fourteen Raiders with our friend MJD

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Speaker 1: collecting his last NFL paycheck behind dark, I.

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Speaker 6: Didn't know how how relative relative to history?

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Speaker 1: Bad crazy Tony Sperano rest in peace coaching, coaching that

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Speaker 1: Raiders team, and I'm like, how are they even as

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Speaker 1: good as they are? And it's because every time they

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Speaker 1: get in the red zone they score because he is

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Speaker 1: one of the best red zone quarterbacks that we've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: in large part because of his legs, but he's made

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Speaker 1: good decisions too, and they just don't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: And that is Jalen Hurts in a nun is that

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Speaker 1: he is a little too tentative just not ripping it

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Speaker 1: into those zone coverages. But he does not make mistakes

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Speaker 1: and so it's just this. You just don't know what

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Speaker 1: to do, but you know it should be better when

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Speaker 1: you're paying all these guys and there's this much talent here.

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Speaker 2: Offensively to me, it may be completely fixable.

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Speaker 7: But you've got a mobile quarterback and a tough guy, right,

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Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts is a tough dude. Get him out of

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Speaker 7: the pocket a little bit. Press the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 7: He Dak Prescott does right when he runs. He doesn't

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Speaker 7: just float. He presses the line of scrimmage and gets

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Speaker 7: a defender to commit and then usually opens up a

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Speaker 7: void to throw it in.

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Speaker 2: They don't do that. Man.

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Speaker 3: Were they doing that with Kellen Moore?

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Speaker 2: I was trying to remember, all, look, I Kellen Moore,

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Speaker 2: you should go to Dallas. Maybe so Kellen Moore would.

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Speaker 8: Drop Jalen Hurts like sixteen steps back behind.

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Speaker 2: The lo's of vision seven.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we had this conversation at various points

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Speaker 1: with almost every one of their coordinators except maybe Stichen,

848
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Speaker 1: who early on it was a little slow, but basically

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Speaker 1: that was a moonshot ride and that was the best thing.

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Speaker 7: That way shorter quarterback and that was the whole thing.

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Speaker 7: You know, back when Russell Wilson first came. He was

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Speaker 7: a shotgun take in seven step drops. You have to

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Speaker 7: throw it eighteen yards to get the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: But this is a great test because the way it's

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Speaker 1: got to be called, and they're playing a defense that

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Speaker 1: they should be able to score against.

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Speaker 2: The Bears are not creating much pressure.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. We've been waiting week after week.

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Speaker 1: Is this game where Kyler Gordon or Jalen Johnson come

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Speaker 1: back for the Bears because they lost. I believe Tyrek

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Speaker 1: Stevenson got hurt last week last game? Did he and

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Speaker 1: I think he did.

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Speaker 7: I'm not positive on that. But let's let's go to the

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Speaker 7: Bears offensively though. I mean, their offensive line is playing and.

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Speaker 6: So Jon and Jackson's little banged up, little banged up.

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Speaker 7: So this is why I'm interested, because the Eagles defensive

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Speaker 7: front was so good up until they they came up

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Speaker 7: against Dallas. This is a pride thing. Now, Okay, are

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Speaker 7: they gonna dial this back up and start doing some

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Speaker 7: things against the Bears. We know we're gonna go a

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Speaker 7: lot twelve or thirteen type of personnel. They will match

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Speaker 7: up with that because they've got the linebackers to be

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Speaker 7: able to do that. But I just want to see

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Speaker 7: again how this front for the Eagles, how they doubt

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Speaker 7: this up because you know, Big Fangio is going to

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Speaker 7: do some stuff to make you know, Caleb Williams eyes cross.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 8: And what I think Ben Johnson's going to do in

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Speaker 8: response is exactly what we saw Brian Schottenheimer do with

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Speaker 8: Dak Prescott is boot him out, move him around, boot

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Speaker 8: him out, get him running on some of these like

882
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 8: nakeds and things like that, and move his launch point

883
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 8: around to really attack what Colleen mentioned was just a

884
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 8: totally battered secondary right now. Yeah, And I feel like

885
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 8: like I was talking to my good friend Kevin Fishbain

886
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 8: who works with me over at the Athletic and just

887
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 8: wrote a great feature about where Ben Johnson's Good, Better

888
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 8: Best comes from and trace its lineage back and like

889
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 8: pretty cool story, and he was talking he was talking

890
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 8: about like that every week the floor gets a little

891
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 8: bit higher for this team. We saw some Bears teams

892
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 8: in the past where when their floor would drop out

893
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 8: from under them, there was no bottom, right like it

894
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 8: just they would they would get they would get close

895
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 8: to their floor and chaos. Woul happened, and they wouldn't

896
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 8: swing it back positive. Now when they're in some of

897
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 8: these close games, especially at the end, you feel like

898
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 8: these Bears teams are starting to know how to win

899
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 8: these games versus because I think this will be close,

900
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 8: I think, I agree, an absolute dogfight, and I think

901
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 8: that this is one of those where you really see, situationally,

902
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 8: how much more developed or how much I guess higher

903
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 8: the floor is for a Bears team that's I think,

904
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 8: out record wise outperforming what a lot of its advanced

905
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 8: statistics say. But they're figuring out how to win games

906
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 8: and that is almost more important for them right now

907
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 8: than what a lot of these metric rankings are.

908
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: And a big game four CJ. Gardner Johnson, Yeah, start timer, start.

909
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 5: The timer, Philly, that that could actually be a serious

910
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 5: situation just because of the way that he left Philly.

911
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: He was unhappy with it, and now he might come back.

912
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: Like we always roll our eyes at revenge games, but.

913
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: Real one.

914
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 7: That's a great point because one thing about the Bears,

915
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 7: they are just rewriting the takeaway books. They are taking

916
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 7: the ball away at an an ordinate rate, and I

917
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 7: think the top three interception leaders in the NFL despite

918
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 7: all the injuries in the top four are like are

919
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 7: like with the Bears, Yeah, I mean Kevin Bayer, like

920
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 7: all these guys are.

921
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: So and their linebackers are hurt, like right, I don't.

922
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 6: Think people to understand that Johnson.

923
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: Exactly like two j Edwards and just that whole grouped.

924
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: I do think the health of the secondary is going

925
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: to be important. So Jalen Johnson was not playing last week.

926
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: They have they activated his practice window for a couple

927
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: of weeks, so both him and Kyler Gordon have been

928
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: practicing to come off. I are but they haven't been

929
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: back in the game. I do wonder if they've been waiting.

930
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the week that it happens. And then

931
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevenson, their other starter, like got hurt too, So

932
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: they're just down big and shout out to Nashan Wright

933
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: who has been making plays, yeah.

934
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: You know, day after day.

935
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: And look, if you were a fan of Last Chance You,

936
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: he he was kind of a secondary character in Last

937
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: Chance You because he's the brother of Rajeon Wright, who

938
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: also made it to the NFL. And and people I

939
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: think know this lately because the coach for that season,

940
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: John Beama, tragically killed like on campus, and he was

941
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: such a captivating guy and it was very emotional for

942
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Nashon Wright after he had an interception a couple of

943
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and he's talked about just honoring John Beeman

944
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: Man that season of last year's he was one of

945
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: my favorite like seasons of quote unquote reality like ever

946
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: and I hate that the other coach from Last Chance

947
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: You is the one that everyone knows who's an idiot?

948
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Who I'm forgetting about right now? It was just like

949
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: a total yeah, yeah that guy. Don't don't confuse the two.

950
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 4: Greg.

951
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 5: By the way, you asked if anyone could name anyone

952
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: from the twenty fourteen Raiders. Yeah, I did say that

953
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: Drew Christensen is checking in again, and he says that

954
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 5: might remember that that team started zero to ten and

955
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 5: then beat the Chief on Thursday Night Football for their

956
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 5: first win of the year. And it was Derek Carr's

957
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: rookie season.

958
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: And first win.

959
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 3: How about that time machine.

960
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 4: Run the mc Darren McFadden on that.

961
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's a good player. Who's the who is

962
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: the quarterbackings start of the season? Was it Jason Campbell.

963
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't think Derek.

964
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 4: Started the whole his rookie.

965
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Bears fans, you wanna you want to really get

966
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: in the mix, go win this game. Caleb a little

967
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: up and down last week, but I thought it was

968
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: good prep for him. He had his fastest time to

969
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: throw all season by far. It was clearly a game plan.

970
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: With his left tackle gone, he got out of the

971
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: got rid of the ball quickly. It wasn't a perfect game,

972
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: but it was good enough. And they're getting their rookies.

973
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: Luther Burden in Colston Loveland ten targets combined. Uh in

974
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: that game? So really good Black Friday game.

975
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: Who hates hearing that? Because you know they're getting their

976
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: rookies involved on like his Raiders.

977
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 6: I'm I'm picking the Bears.

978
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I will takes at home, but I definitely don't

979
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: trust them to cover a home.

980
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

981
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 6: I'm the I'm Colleen the loan, I'm the loan.

982
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: You are loan Rod.

983
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: But what what.

984
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Hey, we've reached the most important part of the show.

985
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: Go it's the soup draft.

986
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Go how many rounds?

987
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: I we usually plan these things out. We're just gonna

988
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: do one round because I want to put pressure that

989
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: you have to I'll go last.

990
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 4: Why don't we go.

991
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Why don't we go?

992
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: Ladies first, Colleen can get the one. Pick one, let's

993
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: go in order.

994
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 2: That's it? Wow?

995
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: All right, well, okay, do you guys want to do

996
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: two rounds?

997
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 6: I think I thought I don't need any prep on I.

998
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: Know, I just thought not about prep. It was more

999
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: pressure that you got to make a really hard choice.

1000
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: And also I would have brought this up ahead.

1001
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 6: Any soup is an easy choice, Greg Bear.

1002
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I would have brought this up before, but I know

1003
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: how Eric would have hated this segment idea, so I

1004
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: just had to.

1005
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: Be a surprise. Go too deep then?

1006
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: Oh god, that is can't it?

1007
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 5: Wow?

1008
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 6: No, stop, stop stop.

1009
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Okay, it's very easy for me there.

1010
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 5: I Since I love soup so much, I could go

1011
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 5: in so many different directions. But there is one soup

1012
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: that I can never say no to if I see

1013
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 5: it on a menu, and it's not going to be

1014
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: a popular number one overall pick. So congratulations to you guys.

1015
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 5: It's broccoli Cheddar is mine?

1016
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: Ober?

1017
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: Wow?

1018
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: Overall pick?

1019
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: Definitely? Oh my god, no, definitely.

1020
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: It's a little lunch box on Drexel's campus right on

1021
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: thirty fourth that NAT had the absolute best broccoli Cheddar.

1022
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: It was the number one hangover cure.

1023
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: It can be great. It's not like an La soup.

1024
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: You got to have that on a cold day on

1025
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: the East Coast. But it's like any soup. I think

1026
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: it made well. It can earn that number one pick.

1027
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: But streets are saying it's a reach, little little heavy.

1028
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: It's my draft, Jordan's.

1029
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 8: I'm going butternut squash, good fall pick sound draft returns.

1030
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 8: Butternut squash is my number one over.

1031
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: That's a good one in my mine is simple. That's

1032
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: the Italian wedding.

1033
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 7: Baby, I'm not really a huge fan.

1034
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Italian wedding. Eric.

1035
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Would you describe yourself as disgusted so far?

1036
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: Do you think less of Steve as a man?

1037
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Nothing against?

1038
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 7: You can think whatever he wanted me if I get

1039
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 7: some Italian wedding right, he gets.

1040
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: Greg, what's your pick?

1041
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, should I a strategy on something

1042
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: that someone else could take, or take what I believe

1043
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: should be the one I think you gotta go. I'm

1044
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: gonna go for like a student tofu soup at like

1045
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: a Korean So you can add it, now what you

1046
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: add to it, because they'll last like, what do you

1047
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: want with it? Like, do you want it with pork

1048
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: or dumplings, kim chi whatever? I think I'm gonna go

1049
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: with the dumplings because that it kind of combines it all.

1050
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: But that is some hot and spicy, bubbling soup because

1051
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: you get.

1052
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: The kimchi's in it. Anyway, you know, I love it.

1053
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 5: What about a soup dumpling? I mean, that's pretty good.

1054
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: That's not my pick.

1055
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: That's that's why it's it's sort of combined. I like

1056
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: it all.

1057
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 6: Regularly.

1058
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: Now you can you can you had the worst.

1059
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: The second round, but with the fifth overall pick in

1060
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty five soup draft, I am taking chili.

1061
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: That was my question. Is it chili or aunt? Make it?

1062
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 6: Make it a chili?

1063
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: Is a chili? Last week?

1064
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 6: That's not an I was wondering count all the time.

1065
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 8: But chili consistency, the consistency of chili as a non

1066
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 8: broth based concoction is more of a stew like texture

1067
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 8: versus a soup.

1068
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: I was this is actually I'm sorry to do this,

1069
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: but this is like when the Vikings took too long

1070
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: to make their pick and then they got skipped in

1071
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: the drafts.

1072
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: Actually, Jordan is going to go.

1073
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: You have to regroup and you can tell you can

1074
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: take another pick after.

1075
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: As a stew.

1076
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 5: Wait a second, then I will take Ramen? Or is

1077
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: that a problem to Romans?

1078
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: A soup wasn't your turn but because of the rules,

1079
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: But we'll take that.

1080
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: Chili should count. That's ridiculous.

1081
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 6: Chili is a stew.

1082
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: I think ultimately the clock is sticking based.

1083
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 8: Chicken tortilla, Baby, chicken tortilla all the way up in

1084
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 8: this system here, I love it. Weird, clean out my sinuses, baby, Okay.

1085
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: J Maican pumpkin soup.

1086
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: What spicy, sweet and spicy?

1087
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 2: Little got a great consistency, get you going right there?

1088
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 8: Lots of fiber, that's pretty good.

1089
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 6: Okay, Greg, you're on the.

1090
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Clock, your last one. I think, well, oh yeah, she

1091
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: picked m Yeah, Drew, what is it that you said

1092
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: to me? How many rounds to what you can get

1093
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: on the mic till?

1094
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Colleen?

1095
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: Uh, you get your pick? No, she got her pick.

1096
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 4: It was Ramen. It was wrong. We'll get We'll get it.

1097
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

1098
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: This is tough last pick of the draft. I mean,

1099
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: like the ultimate test when you're at.

1100
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: A lobster bisk is still on the.

1101
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: Or there's so much.

1102
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: There's so many, like mots of ball. Soup is out

1103
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 4: there the ultimate test of the Chinese.

1104
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: I get a hot and summer soup every time, but

1105
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: I think for value, I also get a wanton too.

1106
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll get both. But but hot and sour.

1107
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: You have to test that every place you go, because

1108
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: that's the ultimate test if that's going to be a

1109
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: good But I just think for value and overall versatility

1110
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: and everything, you got to take far here. I mean, yes,

1111
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: you can't let that go. That's like, that was hard

1112
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: to choose between those two.

1113
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm shocked that.

1114
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 6: I just want them all.

1115
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: I want them.

1116
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, apologize, you are what little lentil?

1117
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 8: Oh? I love a lentil soup. Yeah, but but yeah,

1118
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 8: I would yeah, I would take.

1119
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: That you'd like to throw in.

1120
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: He's just so you know.

1121
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Would have been controversial, but I think it would be

1122
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: a good mid to late round draft pick for value.

1123
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: I didn't need you guys to be prepped for that.

1124
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: You guys have been prepping your whole freaking lives.

1125
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: You know what else?

1126
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: You're ready for tomorrow's preview show. It's going to be

1127
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: a little bit different because we need to get out

1128
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: of here.

1129
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: At some point before the holiday, we're going to put

1130
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 4: a clock on our preview.

1131
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna have one thing that's going to blow your

1132
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: mind for each game, five minutes per game. Looking forward

1133
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: to that until then. Yes, you want to throw any

1134
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: other soups out there that didn't come out.

1135
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

1136
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 6: I like the broth of it. I love any broth.

1137
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Maybe put our drafts up. People get Greid, who came

1138
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: in second place behind me.

1139
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 6: Something with lemongrass, beef, lemongrass ginger.

1140
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, he's where the fig. You gotta get some

1141
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: lemon grass.