1 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Hey, Marlins fans, thank you for checking out this new 2 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: episode of Swimming Upstream here on the Fish On First 3 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: podcast presented by MPT College Consulting. This is Eli Sussman 4 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: here to explain what you're about to hear on this episode. 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: We had to call an audible for the best of 6 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: reasons as infield prospects Connor Norby, called up by the Marlins, 7 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: made his debut on Monday for the big league team, 8 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: number two overall prospect on our fof Top thirty list, 9 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: so of course we had to include him in this show, 10 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: and what you're about to hear for the first portion 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: of this podcast is his meeting with the assembled media 12 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: at Loan Deebo Park prior to Monday's game, reflecting on 13 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: what he's done in his career, what he's done in 14 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: this season in particular, and what he's expecting to contribute 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: to the Marlins moving forward. Then, on the other side 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: of the break, our pre done interview with right hander 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Adam Miser, number nine overall prospect on our Top Prospects list, 18 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: as recorded by Kevin Barrall and Isaac Zout interviewing Maser 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: while he's there with Triple A Jacksonville knocking on the 20 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: door himself to join this team and then not too 21 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: distant future. I think you'll enjoy that conversation on the 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: other side of the break so too. Top ten prospects 23 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: in the organization back to back on this episode of 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: Swimming Upstream. Hope you enjoy, rate and review the pod 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: wherever you get it and share it around if you 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: enjoy what you hear on this upcoming episode. 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Connor, I remember we got to look at here in 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: the Baltimore series when we all kip about you just said, 29 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: you know, you're a tough player, that that is really 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: real with a lot of powers. 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: What do you feel that you can add to this team. 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: I think I can add everything, a little bit of everything. 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: I think I can do many different things, and I 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: can get back to the game both defensively offensively, and 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 4: I think a year ago I would have just said 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: offensively I could have helped. But I've worked really hard 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: defensively this year and I've taken a step forward with 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: my game on that side of the ball, but you know, 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 4: still trying to get better. It's obviously first time here. 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: I'm super excited to be here. I'm glad to be 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: part of this organization going forward and helping get us back. 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: To where we want to be. 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 4: But I mean, those are all good words to hear 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: from your manager, right, I was just. 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: Joking around with Kyle Sowers. He said that he was 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: giving you a tour as one of the veterans. Now, 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: how nice is it, though, to see a guy that 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: you have familiarity with. I mean, I couldn't get away 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: from him too long. 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: But no, he's the best obviously been with him the 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: last couple of years, and he's a super talented player. 52 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: And I know he's been scuffling a little bit, but 53 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: hopefully he sees my face. And I told him this 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: morning when I saw her when I got here, you 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 4: know you're gonna start raking again now that I'm here, right, 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: He's like, I know, but no, it's it's been really 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: comforting knowing that I we both came together. Obviously, Uh, 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: you don't want to go through it alone, but and 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: to help having each other it helps a lot. But 60 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: we're both super excited to be here, and I'm grateful. 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: You mentioned that you're working really hard on defensive side 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: of the ball. We heard you're getting repset third base 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: just what specifically are you. 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Working on defensively and how comfortable. 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: Are you feeling a third? 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: Just making the routine play obviously last I've been a 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: second basement for since college, so that's all I've been 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: working on. Just making the routine play consistent, consistently and 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: I can make those tougher plays when they need to happen, 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: but just making the outs that need to be outs 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,559 Speaker 4: have to happen. And but then played some outfield with Orioles. 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: But now I'm playing third and feel better. Brand new 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 4: to me for sure. Haven't taken a ground ball there 74 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: since five or six years ago. It's been a long time, 75 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: but I've actually it's been It hasn't been too bad 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: at all. The staff down in Jacksonville was awesome and 77 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 4: I was working with them every day and they were patient. 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: We got a lot of good working. 79 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: And I feel I feel pretty good, better than I 80 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: thought I would when they told me, like. 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: Hey, we want you to learn to play third. Feel 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: way better now that dude back then. 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 5: What's what's the biggest challenge The biggest difference between playing 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 5: middle endfield, especially second, based on the right side of 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 5: the fields the last it's second. 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: You can kind of stay back a little bit and 87 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: on your heels. It's not a far throw, so you 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: have time. But at third it's in short, it's reaction. 89 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: It's instinct and just trusting that and trusting my first step, 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: trusting my eyes and what my body wants to do 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 4: and not fighting it. 92 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: And if it's wrong, we can correct it after. 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: But as long as I'm being aggressive with it, I 94 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: would say, then I'm gonna put myself in a good spot. 95 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: I think that's the big thing. Just trust, trust my 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: first instinct. How do you get used to I mean, 97 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: the ball gets on you real quick at their How 98 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: do you get used to that? 99 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: A lot of reps, different type of stuff, drop the ball, 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: try to simulate game reps as much as you can. 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: Probably turn get a machine out there or something, or 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: have a coach just smoke. 103 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: I at you. I don't know. Well, I'll let you 104 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: know when when I figured how. 105 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: But I think in the game it's it's instinct and 106 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: it's adrenaline plays a role, and I think game reps 107 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: are the best way to learn. 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 6: How did you find about about the trade and what 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 6: was your initial reaction. 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: To the move? 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: Actually, I might be one of the few that didn't 112 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 4: find out on Twitter. First I did get a call. 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 4: Jam for the Orioles called me. Then I had to 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: call everybody and tell him. And then I saw it 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: on Twitter, and then I saw Sali's name, so I 116 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: was I was pumped when I saw his name, So 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: I know we both were excited to come here. 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: What about getting the call when you were coming up 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: here today? 120 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 4: A little bit of relief, but also understand it and 121 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm super excited to be here. 122 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: It's like I was joking yesterday with my mom. I 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: was like, Wow, I'm gonna play my first home. 124 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: Game, like debut at home or whatever you want to say, 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: because I was a road warrior with them. But it's 126 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: it's cool, for sure, and I'm excited to be always. 127 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: I've played here once and I had a pretty good 128 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: night that day, so I hope to continue to that here. 129 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: I didn say You've already got your first homer in 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: this fall. Yeah, so I'm looking for your second. 131 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 4: Oh, you're always looking for him, right, Yeah, trying to 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: get a winternet for sure. 133 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 7: How do you feel you've improved your game from last season? 134 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: Very similar numbers the Triple A last. 135 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 6: Season and this seasons. What do you think you can 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 6: proved on in this year? 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: I actually just recently ditched the toe tap, which I've 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: been sticking with since I got into Pro Bowl. So 139 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: it's weak in progress so far, but I think I'm 140 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: walking more, I'm stealing more. I think my number power 141 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: numbers are a little bit better right now. If you're 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: going base off numbers. I don't really keep up with 143 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: them too much, but just trying to be an overall 144 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: consistently better in the box, whether it's hitting fastballs within 145 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: hitting off speed, working counts, taking ific you're supposed to 146 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: swing at the ones you're supposed to. 147 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: There's so many things you can get. 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: Better at and what I've been trying to get better at. 149 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: And I'm feeling pretty good right now and just trying 150 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: to build off what I've done in the last week, 151 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: trying to build off what I've done the last month. 152 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: And keep going. Why did you ditch the toe tap? 153 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: I just felt like I don't want to. I like 154 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: it was it was just kind of like a plateau. 155 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: I felt like I was it was as good it 156 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: was going to get. It's it's hard to control it 157 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: with timing, and I thought mine was pretty good and 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: it's been working for me so far, but I just 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: needed to get to a better spot more consistently. And 160 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: so I was messing with it just in a drill 161 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: like a week ago, and I said, screw it, I'll 162 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: try it. And they got a homer the first day, 163 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: then first av the next day, so I was all right, 164 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: we'll keep it, but not like sometimes you gotta be 165 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: willing to try new things. I did in Double A 166 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: when I was scuffling when I first got there in 167 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: twenty two, and they brought a suggestion up to me 168 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: and tried it. 169 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: And. 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: I think I went one for my first fifteen with 171 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 4: the suggestion they told me, and then they were just like, 172 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: stick with it, give us a week, and I think I. 173 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: For the next month. I had like twelve homers that month. 174 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: So it worked then. 175 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: So I'm trying just trusting that something's going to click 176 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: this time, and I'm feeling good with it right now. 177 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 7: But you weren't there for that long. 178 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 6: Was there anyone in Jacksonville that you got close with? 179 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: With thumbs trump you play we play them all the time, 180 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: and when we were in Norfolk, so I knew like 181 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: Christian Gray Troy Johnston Dale Santos pretty good, pretty good hitter, 182 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: Augustine who else so Noha Forests. So I've faced a 183 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 4: lot of those guys over the last two years. Obviously 184 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 4: their pitching staff is they got some pitchers, which is 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 4: which is nice and coming. That's what Baltimore wanted, right 186 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: pitching and Bolton Miami's got a lot of it. 187 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: So it's always cool. And I don't have to face 188 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: those guys anymore, which is nice because there's like four 189 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: of them that throw like ninety eight. 190 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: Two on her. 191 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,119 Speaker 7: Alrighty, swimming upstream. 192 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: Very very special interview here today we are with Adam 193 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: Maser of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp, recently traded from the 194 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: San Diego Padres. 195 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 7: Adam, thank you so much for hopping on men. 196 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: We're excited to have thank you for having me. 197 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: So I think we need to start with the trade. 198 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: You know, trade deadline's going down as bad an hour left, 199 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden the news breaks that Tanner, 200 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: Scott and Brian Holding are headed over to the San 201 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Diego Padres for four prospects and one of those was 202 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: you Just what was your reaction to the trade. How 203 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: did you find out about just everything that went down 204 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: that day. 205 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just getting ready for a bullpen because 206 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 5: I was gonna throwed later in the week, and so 207 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: I was kind of playing catch my pitching coach, getting 208 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: warmed up, and then the manager came out and was like, hey, 209 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 5: kind of hold off right now. There's kind of stuff 210 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: up in the air, so we'll see what's going on 211 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 5: with that, and so kind of just hung out and 212 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 5: then basically just walked back in the clubhouse and Grand 213 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 5: Pauli was on my team too, so we kind of 214 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: found out together. 215 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: Right. 216 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 6: Well, you've made a handful of starts already with Jacksonville. 217 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 6: I'm curious any similarities, any differences you've seen with the 218 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: two organizations thus far this year, and just you know what, 219 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 6: what are your main takeaways in pitching for the Marlins organization. 220 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 5: I feel like both organizations allowed me to be me. 221 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 5: They allowed me to attack my fastball and then kind 222 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 5: of let my off speed play off of that. So 223 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 5: it's been nice kind of taking a step back and 224 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 5: getting used to being in one spot for a little 225 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 5: bit and kind of slowing life down a little bit. 226 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 5: At this point, I want. 227 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: To take you back to your high school days I 228 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: think it was your sophomore year you were with now 229 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, current teamate of yours, Max Smyer, talk to 230 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: us about that experience, how much you guys maybe bonded 231 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: and just well, did did you talk to him after 232 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: the trade? 233 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 7: Did you kind of reach out to What was that? 234 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: You know? 235 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 7: How was that like. 236 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: In high school? 237 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 5: Was it was awesome for me, especially you know, being 238 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 5: a younger kid. Getting to see Max every single day 239 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 5: pitch and then I could to play shortstop behind him 240 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 5: was really cool. So, you know, it was always fun 241 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 5: having him throw and then having the scouts stare and everything. 242 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: It was super cool to see. And then kind of 243 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 5: once the trade went down, I didn't really haven't talked 244 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 5: to him since, which is understandable. We're both in the 245 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: bulk of our seasons and I'm just kind of focusing 246 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 5: on on what's going on at this point. 247 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 6: It seemed like you stayed pretty much home during that 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 6: time you worked on your craft. Did what did Woodburry 249 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 6: do for you without needing to do much traveling. 250 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: I think it allowed me to just kind of develop 251 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: and then also play other sports and develop that way 252 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 5: as well. I was able to play three sports for 253 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 5: however long I wanted to, and then when I decided 254 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 5: to finally stop playing football, it was mainly just basketball 255 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 5: and baseball from that And once that kind of hit, 256 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: I did fall baseball, and I think that's kind of 257 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: where I made a little bit of a jump. But 258 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 5: also just you know, getting time off from baseball was big. 259 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: Being able to just relax and focus on a different 260 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: sport for for a period of time and then train 261 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: that muscle group, train that kind of athleticism and then 262 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: bring it into baseball. 263 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: Right. 264 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 6: Well, I'm curious because Cape Cod League is really where 265 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 6: you know, prospects become you know, it's really a good 266 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 6: test for them. And I'm curious because it's South Dakota State. 267 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 6: You struggled a little bit, you know, you were not 268 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 6: related particularly, and then you just came out in the 269 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 6: Cape Cod and absolutely shoved and became one of the 270 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 6: better pitching prospects out there. 271 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 7: Just what changed for you? 272 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: What click? 273 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think it was kind of not having a 274 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 5: school going out there, already being in the transportal kind 275 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: of having you know, target to go and want to 276 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: be at a bigger school, better school, and then also 277 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 5: just really trust my stuff and gaining a two scene 278 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: and really working on the curveball out there, I think 279 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: helped a lot. 280 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: So you're drafted by the Padres and you really just 281 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: fly up through the system. 282 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 7: You know, just talk to us a little. 283 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: Bit about what that experience was like with the Padres organization. 284 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: What did they help you focus on when it came 285 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: to maybe your arsenal or maybe some sort of mechanics, 286 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: and just yeah, just your overall experience, because you know, 287 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: the fastball definitely saw an increase in velo and we're 288 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: seeing that now with the Marlins as well. 289 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 7: Just just what was that like? 290 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 5: It was? It was a lot of fun, a lot 291 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 5: of great people over there. I can't thank them enough 292 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 5: for the opportunity, but they really with me A big 293 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 5: folkus was waight, So that's kind of every year was 294 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 5: the big target was to keep getting weight, keep gaining weight, 295 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 5: and then also just secondary stuff like change of pur ball. 296 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: Those are two big focal points for me, and just 297 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 5: trying to get those better attacking in the zone and 298 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 5: then also be able to play with them out of 299 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: the zone. 300 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 6: You you did what most kids dream of doing. You 301 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 6: made it to the major leagues last year. Just tell 302 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 6: me about that call. First of all, how did they 303 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 6: tell you? Was it a special moment and it will 304 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: go out from there? 305 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: So we were in Round Rock and my start that 306 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: week was pretty short, and then kind of after the fact, 307 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: I found out that that was coming from the higher 308 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 5: ups that were like, hey, keep them on a shorter 309 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: pitch count, and then my pitching like usually it's a 310 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 5: good sign. I can't see anything set in stone, but 311 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: usually it's a good sign. And I was like, okay, 312 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 5: and that was I think on a Thursday, didn't hear anything, Friday, 313 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 5: didn't hear anything, Saturday, and I was like, okay, that's fine, 314 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: Like I'll just get ready for my next start and 315 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 5: just keep working towards that goal. And then Sunday, before 316 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: the day game or the afternoon game, we had a 317 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: team meeting and my manager kind of sat us all 318 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: down and it was just like, you know, we've had 319 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 5: this mentality all year, being the sixth man of the Padres, 320 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: and every time we go up there, we try to 321 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 5: help them win. And Adam measured me doing that Tuesday 322 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 5: against the Anaheim Angels. 323 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 6: Wow, then what can you really take away? Because I 324 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 6: think it was eight starts at the big league level. 325 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 6: What were your main takeaways? And different Obviously, you know, 326 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 6: the difference of talent is insane, but just what. 327 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: Were your main Yeah, it's a different level base but 328 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: at the same time, it is just baseball. So and 329 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: then kind of keeping it in the back of your 330 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 5: mind is like, Okay, it's still just a game that 331 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 5: I've grown up loving and I have loved to play 332 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: it every single day, and so just kind of going 333 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 5: with that mentality, and then you know, just got to 334 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: be a little bit finer with things and really get 335 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 5: down to the nitty gritty with stuff. 336 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 6: What about the non baseball side of it. I know 337 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 6: a lot of fans know the difference in talent, but 338 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: you know, the clubhouse, the food, the travel, just touch 339 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 6: on the differences when it comes to major league baseball 340 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: and minor league baseball. 341 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was different going from having like 342 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: a private playing this year and also being in the 343 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: Texas League earlier in the year and having ten to 344 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: twelve hour bus rides. So yeah, the type of travel 345 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 5: is very, very different. 346 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: So, yeah, the one thing that certainly stands out is 347 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: the VLO difference between your fastball and change up. 348 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 7: It's just only I think five mile per hour difference. 349 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: Just talk to us a little bit about that and 350 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: how that kind of came to be in terms of 351 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: just you know, that difference in Villa, you don't really 352 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: see that toot. 353 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: I mean, for me, it'd be nice to get less 354 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 5: fila with the change up, but at the same point, 355 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 5: you don't want to do that if it's risking your 356 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 5: mechanics or kind of your arm speed or movement of 357 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: the pitch. So I feel like I'm at a pretty 358 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: good spot right now where I've gotten able to take 359 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 5: a little bit more off and it's kind of now 360 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 5: more around eighty nine to ninety and still gets a 361 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: good movement. 362 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 6: That out of that twenty twenty two draft where the 363 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 6: Padres got you snelling Polly, Marcy and Martarella, is all 364 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 6: those gus all with the Marlins organization. One does that 365 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 6: give you a sort of a decent level of comfort 366 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 6: knowing that, hey, you were drafting, you've come up with 367 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 6: a lot of these same guys. 368 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, those guys are great. Got to 369 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 5: spend most of last year and a good chunk of 370 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: this early on the year with them, and yeah, they're 371 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: all great guys. I'm super happy that that was kind 372 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: of the group that came over and excited for our 373 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 5: future together. 374 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 6: Well, can you tell us about some of those guys 375 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 6: on and off the fields just or I guess mainly 376 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 6: off just you know, what can you say about their 377 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 6: personalities and how they go about things. 378 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: I don't know off the field too much about Polly, 379 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 5: Marcy and Marty. I actually lived with Snelling in San Antonio, 380 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: so I know a little bit more about him. But 381 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 5: he's he's great. We would always just kind of hang 382 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: out in the main main room of our apartment, play 383 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: cards or just kind of watch TV together at night 384 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 5: after games. We'd watched Padre games since they're on West 385 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 5: Coast and we were Central time zone, so that their 386 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 5: games were kind of lined up with ours and it 387 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: would work out nicely where the three of us could 388 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 5: just watch pretty much all the games afterwards. And for us, 389 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: there's always about my watching Meryl and because that was 390 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 5: another guy that we kind of came up with last year, 391 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 5: and so it's super cool to see him make the 392 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 5: opening day roster this year. 393 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 7: What's made what you know? You talk about Snelling? Just 394 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 7: what made him so good last year? I believe he 395 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 7: was named Minor league pitcher of the year. 396 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: Just what made him so good? And now, I mean 397 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: he's starting today for pensal Cole. I'm sure you're probably 398 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: gonna watch that during your off day here, So just 399 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: what's made him so good? 400 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 7: You know, these last couple. 401 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: Of years, he's just full on attacking no matter what. 402 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 5: And I love watching him pitch because it's it's fast paced, 403 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 5: but it's also controlled, and so he's gonna attack you 404 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: with whatever he's got that day, and he's gonna go 405 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: out there and try to get outs and and give 406 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 5: his team a shot to win. 407 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 6: I'm curious, man, is there any current or former Major 408 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 6: leaguer that you would compare your pitching style, your game two. 409 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: Compare. I'd say maybe like zachmar Where because his change 410 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 5: up is not too far off his fastball minus the 411 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: epist but like his true change up isn't too far 412 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 5: off his fast one. I think he's able to pitch 413 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 5: a couple of different ways and just go out there 414 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 5: and get outs. 415 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: Well, would you say, maybe it didn't work for you 416 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 2: too much at the major league level when he got 417 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: up there, the walk rate went a little bit up, 418 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: but still, I mean, you found some success at times, 419 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: but it was a little on and off sometimes. 420 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: I'd say, just trying to be too fine, trying to 421 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: be too perfect, trying to hit the perfect corner edge, 422 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: or just trying to paint too many fastballs and not 423 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: really attacking much stuff to the zone. 424 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 7: Last one, yeah to. 425 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 6: Me, Adam, Sorry Kevin, last time for me, Just what 426 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 6: would be your goal for in the off season in 427 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 6: the twenty twenty five season, what is your main objective 428 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: to work on prove? 429 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 5: For me, it's it's still to continue to gain weight, 430 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: but also to be in a better spot I think 431 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 5: with my change up and then my curve ball went 432 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 5: in the spring training and really have a good forty 433 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: five pitch mix going next year. 434 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: When you did get her to the Marls organization, where 435 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: did they give you some sort of things that they 436 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: would like to see you work on? 437 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 7: You know, maybe mechanically. 438 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: With your arsenal and we know that the Marlins are 439 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: huge on developing that change up. Maybe is that something 440 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: that they kind of spoke to you about at some point. 441 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 5: Honestly, they didn't talk to me too much about the 442 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: change up when I got here. They kind of just 443 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 5: let me throw a bullpen in front of who was 444 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 5: there and kind of just saw how I went about 445 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 5: things and how I did things. And then we've kind 446 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 5: of gone from there and talked just a little bit 447 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: about like a couple of mechanical things and then just 448 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: different like mentalities, I guess. But with the change up, 449 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: they kind of like that it is harder and it's 450 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 5: more of movement. 451 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 6: I'm curious in a situation like that where you're you know, 452 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 6: you're assay throw a bullpen in front of us, is 453 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 6: that nerve wrecking in any way? 454 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say nerve wracking. I'd say it's more exciting. 455 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: You know. 456 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 5: It's different set of eyes on you, different set of 457 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 5: thoughts and and just different ways to get better. At 458 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: the end of the day, do. 459 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 7: You know who you threw in front of. 460 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: Ah? 461 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: I do. 462 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: It was. 463 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 5: I had a car, remember you're good. Yeah, it was 464 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 5: because our pitching coach was gone get some family stuff. 465 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 5: So it's Tommy Phelps. 466 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: Very nice, all right, And so I think we're gonna 467 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: wrap it up here. Thank you so much for joining us, 468 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: very very on it. I've had you on where we're 469 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: gonna be watching you from afar and hopefully get to 470 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: see you in Miami, hopefully at some point this year 471 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: and maybe even next year. So thank you so much 472 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: for joining us from Isaac, Adam and I. We'll see 473 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: you guys all from the next one.