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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Greenbrier Resort and Sports

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Speaker 1: and Training Camp twenty twenty four, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Bally Bett Now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Nathan Zegura and the Voice of

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Cleveland Browns Daily live from the Green Briar

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Speaker 2: in White Sulfur Springs, West Virginia. The Browns looking forward

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Speaker 2: to training Camp date number five. Nathan Zegura alongside the

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Speaker 2: Voice of your Cleveland Brownsjim and Jim. Mother nature not cooperating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, rain, rain, rain, rain this morning, and so we

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Speaker 2: It is looking good and our weather man Gibbe says

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it'll be fine. Yeah, maybe maybe they need to

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Speaker 2: who knows. So yesterday practice supposed to be every day

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Speaker 2: five Today. Due to the weather, it has been moved

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Speaker 2: back to two thirty now. Yesterday was the first day

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Speaker 2: a light day. Today will be in shells. They will

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Speaker 2: have kind of a walkthrough and team building exercise tomorrow

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Speaker 2: practice in the morning and they will fly home Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: And I saw Kevin Spanski, o On's head coach in

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Speaker 2: the hall and I said, mother nature is not cooperating.

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Speaker 2: He said, it's good. We need to be adaptable. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everything nothing doesn't Things don't always go according to plan.

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Speaker 4: In the national football they take.

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Speaker 3: Everything that comes their way and they kind of turn

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Speaker 3: it into a lesson. Yes, you know, we'll make the

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Speaker 2: You know, absolutely got to turn some lemons into That's

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Speaker 2: exactly right. And so last time we did a show

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Speaker 2: was after kind of that light practice. Today, we had

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Speaker 2: hoped to have a new practice for you to break

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Speaker 2: down and dissect, but we will not. We will have

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Speaker 2: training camp insider that you can get on the Browns

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel and all of the Browns platforms. We did

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Speaker 2: that yesterday as well and kind of take you in

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Speaker 2: and we'll do that after today's practice and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: with Amari Cooper, which will be excited.

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Speaker 3: You know what it will be and it and it

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Speaker 3: is and you know, he is a fascinating guy. He's

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Speaker 3: a really cerebral guy. Don't you think he really thinks

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Speaker 2: So that's I love the way that you say that.

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Speaker 2: And he is he is. I've said it before and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever said it to you,

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Speaker 2: but he is very much. He approaches the game in

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Speaker 2: terms of the preparation, the film study, the notes that

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Speaker 2: if he's shown any tendencies and then what could be

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Speaker 4: So that his moves are more effective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he talks about flexibility and the ability to have

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Speaker 3: No, and has every right to be like that, but

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Speaker 3: He really likes practicing, loves it. Yea, he loves practice,

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Speaker 3: which is really something, and he practices all the time.

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Speaker 4: I did love that.

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Speaker 2: You know, so much was made well he might hold out,

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Speaker 2: I need to practic for myself. Forget that. I would

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Speaker 2: with Andrew Berry later on today in our program at

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Speaker 2: around two o'clock. We'll talk with the Browns general manager

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Speaker 2: here on Cleveland Browns Daily. You're also going to hear

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Speaker 2: from head coach Kevin Stefanski in just a little bit

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Speaker 2: from earlier this morning. So this will be the latest

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Speaker 4: That's from earlier today. And boy, he's he's been great.

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Speaker 2: He is really and he is having an absolute bless

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you were to rank everybody in

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Speaker 2: as possible that Mike Rabel would be number one on

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Speaker 3: I think you're right about that. And he's very open

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Speaker 3: Does somebody want him? I think should? I think in

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Speaker 2: He absolutely, he absolutely should be one right now. And

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna hear from from those basically some real luminaries,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 3: And Nathan, the thing when when we talk to Andrew Bury,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you exactly call it for long exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he you're right, because and I don't know how

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Speaker 2: much people realize this, but it's always it's continually a

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Speaker 2: three pronged approach to scouting. At any point in this offseason, right,

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Speaker 2: so you have your your self scouting, you're evaluating your team,

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Speaker 4: All of those things.

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Speaker 2: Concurrent with that, you've got your college scouts all out

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Speaker 2: All right, let's find the teams around the league that

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Speaker 3: take a look at contracts. Yep, you know what's going

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Speaker 4: Where are they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got some flexibility with the Amari Cooper or

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Speaker 2: the way that that restructuring happened with Amari Cooper. They

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Speaker 2: were able to save about fourteen million on this year's

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Speaker 2: next year. And I don't know if you saw Jerry

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Speaker 2: slowing the acceleration of the salary cap over the next

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Speaker 3: Well, that was a hefty There was a hefty number

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Speaker 3: that came down, right, Yes, yea.

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Speaker 2: And I know that will be appealed and where it

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Speaker 3: Those lawyers are going, Wow, we've got a couple of

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Speaker 4: We've got some billible hours coming our way.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, big Sam Mulah in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: I know you can chubble wubba hubby.

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Speaker 3: Guy waite boy. I mean gosh, I think that will

442
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Speaker 3: be electro. I think it will be I think it

443
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Speaker 3: should be at home. I would like it to be

444
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Speaker 3: at help.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me take a look here at the

446
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Speaker 2: schedule here real quickly, and we can kind of see

447
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Speaker 2: where we think. How about the Steelers, oh man, listen,

448
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 2: big returns against the Steelers at home have led to

449
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Speaker 2: great success.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that very very well.

451
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Speaker 2: Let's see we got to I'm thinking Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Okay,

452
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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 3: You know the team that it happened against, that would

454
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Speaker 3: be oh man, you come back and you come back home? Wow?

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Speaker 2: All right, look at there there we are talking on

456
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Speaker 2: the US up on the app for a second there.

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Speaker 4: All right, So home.

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Speaker 2: Games week three, if we're getting, if we're being ambitious,

459
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Speaker 2: week one of the Cowboys Week three, the Giants Week seven,

460
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Speaker 2: the Bengals October the twentieth, that could be a good one. Sunday,

461
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Speaker 2: October twenty seventh, the Ravens November the third, the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: The only problem I think with the Steelers, we'd have

463
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Speaker 2: to wait all the way till November twenty first. I

464
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Speaker 2: don't know if we want to wait. Yeah, how about

465
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Speaker 2: the Bengals Week seven? Coming home? I'm in stretch of

466
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Speaker 2: division games. Yeah, I would certainly be. I would be

467
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Speaker 2: in for that. You know who else would be excited

468
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Speaker 2: about that? That'd be Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski. He

469
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Speaker 2: is from the podium Familiar Today, presented by Vivid Seats,

470
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Speaker 2: official Fan Experience partner of the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: Take a listen.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna move the schedule around a little bit.

473
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Speaker 6: We were hoping to get lucky with those clouds back there.

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Speaker 6: But as as you can see, we're not gonna get lucky.

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Speaker 6: So we'll move the walk through up. So we'll do

476
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Speaker 6: the walk through this morning and then plan is to

477
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Speaker 6: practice around two thirty this afternoon. So we'll keep you

478
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Speaker 6: guys posted, uh on that. Questions weather related questions fire away, Yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 7: In the last year, Jim talked about the next step

480
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Speaker 7: of Jeremiah maybe being time. Do you see him for

481
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Speaker 7: guys toward that and if so, could he be uh,

482
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Speaker 7: you know, called the players.

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Speaker 4: Kind of guy?

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Speaker 5: I do, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think Jeremiah now and as he gets older becomes

486
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Speaker 6: a veteran, better understanding of what we do, more comfortable

487
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Speaker 6: out there, uh calling the defense if we need him to,

488
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Speaker 6: we can signal the defense from.

489
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Speaker 5: The sideline as well.

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Speaker 6: Uh So, certainly you want to keep your you know,

491
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Speaker 6: best players on the field as much as possible, and

492
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Speaker 6: that's that's up to Jeremiah in a lot of ways

493
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Speaker 6: to be comfortable in the roles.

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Speaker 5: Kevin, what have you seen form Michael Woods after a year?

495
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Speaker 5: Win continues to do a nice job.

496
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Speaker 6: As we get going into these practices, I think you'll

497
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Speaker 6: see more and more reps where he's kind of showing

498
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Speaker 6: what he does. I think he's a really good separator

499
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Speaker 6: versus man in particular, catches the ball well, has a

500
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Speaker 6: good understanding what we're doing. Grant help it this season,

501
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Speaker 6: just continue to come on. I think everybody saw what

502
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Speaker 6: Grant was able to play, how he's able to play

503
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Speaker 6: in our system, the physicality that he brings what we do,

504
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Speaker 6: has great ball skills, taking on as he becomes a

505
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Speaker 6: veteran in this league, takes on more of a leadership

506
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Speaker 6: roles in a really good room with some guys that

507
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Speaker 6: understand what it takes to play.

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Speaker 5: Ball, and Grant's right there at the top of it.

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Speaker 8: Jim System sort of unlocked some of the potential that

510
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Speaker 8: Graham had.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of goes back to what I think we

512
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Speaker 6: talked yesterday about tight ends. Versatility is key in football,

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Speaker 6: and certainly safeties. You've seen safeties that can play down

514
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Speaker 6: on the line of scrimmage, can play in the post,

515
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Speaker 6: can play a half field, can play at the linebacker level,

516
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Speaker 6: you can blitz them. So I see safety similarly with versatility,

517
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Speaker 6: it allows a coordinator to do a bunch of different things.

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Speaker 3: Fut that David Andrew about who Mike Radwell is kind

519
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Speaker 3: of ever changed.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was curious in your perspective like that in

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Speaker 9: the building.

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Speaker 6: Like is he in the position room or we have

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Speaker 6: Raves really focusing with the offense. I mean, Braves were

524
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Speaker 6: having him do a bunch of different things, and I

525
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Speaker 6: know you guys are going to talk to him and

526
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Speaker 6: he can kind of, you know, tell you what he's doing.

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Speaker 6: But helps me a ton in all the head coaching areas,

528
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Speaker 6: I can bounce things off of him. Helps our personnel

529
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Speaker 6: group because he's got a very good I for personnel.

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Speaker 6: And then I just think it's valuable to have a

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Speaker 6: former defensive player, former defensive coach in the offensive meeting.

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Speaker 6: So Braves in there with us on offense going kind

533
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Speaker 6: of giving that perspective from a defensive side and then

534
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Speaker 6: in particular working with the tight ends when we get

535
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Speaker 6: to an individual perspective is just a.

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Speaker 8: Coransition to that.

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Speaker 9: I know that on How thinks like that you guys

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Speaker 9: are on comleade together and maybe bout him person how

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Speaker 9: the month.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, coach Frames is somebody you know. We've talked about this.

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Speaker 6: We've gotten to know each other pretty well over the years,

542
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Speaker 6: but never you know, when you're opposing teams in the

543
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Speaker 6: same conference. You got to be careful with sharing too

544
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Speaker 6: much information. So we've talked a lot about different Catholic

545
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Speaker 6: school gyms in Northeast Ohio, but that transitioned into more

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Speaker 6: actual football discussions now that he's wearing Browns gear.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, can you tell him as ask what coach Grape says.

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Speaker 6: He talks about the org chart a lot, so we'll

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Speaker 6: find out who his direct report is.

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Speaker 3: Uncertainly a running back, But what are the ways that

551
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Speaker 3: deans forman.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, has played a really good football in his career,

553
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Speaker 6: runs hard, as you see just turning the tape. As

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Speaker 6: a physical runner, you can catch the ball out of

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Speaker 6: the backfield.

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Speaker 5: So I do think he.

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Speaker 6: Brings an element to this this room and then see

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Speaker 6: how it all shakes out. But certain uh is a

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Speaker 6: veteran that you can turn on the tape and see

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Speaker 6: what he's been able to do.

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Speaker 9: Team about that.

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Speaker 4: You have that state that have the state between It's.

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Speaker 6: A it's a very good group. Like you mentioned, Ephraim

564
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Speaker 6: does a great job with those guys. But I really

565
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Speaker 6: like that you have some older players, some veterans, some

566
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Speaker 6: young guys. You have guys that can do a variety

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Speaker 6: of different things on the job.

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Speaker 5: So, but there it's a really really cerebral group.

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Speaker 10: It's the energy change when you're going through drills, when

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Speaker 10: you have guys like Grades and Bubba getting right in

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Speaker 10: the middle of those drills and actively participating.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's part of coaching.

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Speaker 6: I think that's part of good coaching, is being an

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Speaker 6: active participant, showing the guys the drills that you're gonna

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Speaker 6: be taking part in. Uh, there's a bunch of different

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Speaker 6: ways to do it. There's a bunch of different styles.

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Speaker 6: But I do think active coaching is really beneficial to

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Speaker 6: the players. I don't know, as long as they as

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Speaker 6: long as Rape stays upright, I don't think we're putting

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Speaker 6: them on on the clock though. Yeah, yeah, it's just

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Speaker 6: a little rain. I mean, honestly, it's like I mentioned yesterday,

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Speaker 6: Mary Kay, it's easy for us as coaches.

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Speaker 5: We just gotta go to the next meeting.

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Speaker 6: We don't have to be so responsible for setting up

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Speaker 6: this field and setting up the video, so.

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Speaker 5: Our group does a great job. You can't predict the weather.

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Speaker 6: As I found out and mentioned as a young coach,

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Speaker 6: I was the weather coach for Brad Childrens back in

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Speaker 6: the day.

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Speaker 5: That is a very thankless job. You can you have

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Speaker 5: no idea.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday we had walked through it looked like it was

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Speaker 6: gonna rain, and it didn't rain at all. So you

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Speaker 6: just gotta roll with the punches and know that you

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Speaker 6: can't predict it. We'll just go inside for a walk through. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it'll be just move some tables out of the way

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Speaker 6: and do a walk to inside.

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Speaker 5: Is it when you have to go one field on

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Speaker 5: jerk to take to one Brad you had to talk.

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Speaker 6: Back at people, no, shouldn't and and a lot of

601
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Speaker 6: things you're taking into account here is we want to

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Speaker 6: make sure when we go on these fields that they're safe.

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Speaker 6: Uh So I want to give it enough time where

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Speaker 6: where Scott Springer and our our ground.

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Speaker 5: Scroup can get to work on those fields. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just got to be able to.

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Speaker 2: Adjust the weather coach, the weather coach in the midst

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Speaker 2: of weather.

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Speaker 3: I was in there, and I was in there and

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Speaker 3: it was like, uh, the I don't know who was

611
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Speaker 3: the guy playing in Caddyshack, You're eminence. I don't think

612
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Speaker 3: the heavy stuff that is come end the bishop? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who would deny me? My greatness? Browned in my life

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Speaker 3: it was like that it really coming back for That's

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Speaker 3: exactly right. Hey, he talked about Deonta Foreman. I like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: how big a role We're not being ready, I am.

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Speaker 3: You know at the beginning of the year. How big

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Speaker 3: a role do you think Foreman is? I think substantial.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we were up there avoiding the weather

620
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Speaker 2: earlier and I got a chance to talk with Browns

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Speaker 2: running back coach Duce Staley and he is a big

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Speaker 2: fan of Deontay Foreman's. I think that you imagine the

623
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Speaker 2: role Kareem Hunt played last year, uh huh, But you

624
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Speaker 2: have somebody who's a little bit younger, a little bit

625
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Speaker 2: more explosive, a guy who in his career, when he's

626
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Speaker 2: been given nineteen carries in a game that's happened eleven times,

627
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Speaker 2: he's run for one hundred yards and seven of them

628
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Speaker 2: over eighty and nine of them. So he can be

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Speaker 2: a bell cow. I think that that's what you're that's

630
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Speaker 2: what you're looking at. He is going to be the powerback.

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Speaker 2: I think he could have an opportunity to play a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll be the guy in the fourth quarter

633
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Speaker 2: that's kind of the closer, and then you'll mix in

634
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Speaker 2: Pierre Strong, and you'll mix in obviously Jerome Ford. I'm

635
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Speaker 2: not suggesting he's the number one out of that group,

636
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Speaker 2: but I do think he will play a valuable role,

637
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Speaker 2: and I do think he will be the guy that

638
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Speaker 2: from those three probably leads the group in rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he would become maybe the goal lineback.

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Speaker 4: That's what I think role.

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Speaker 2: He's where twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody right, smooth.

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Speaker 2: Transition there, but yeah, that's that's kind of where I

644
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Speaker 2: see the role. And I think it'll be interesting when

645
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Speaker 2: we actually get into some game situations. I'm gonna be

646
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Speaker 2: very curous for the joint practices what it looks like,

647
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Speaker 2: because that's where you're really trying to see where you stand.

648
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody in the organization and they said,

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Speaker 2: you know, two years ago when Philly came to Cleveland.

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Speaker 11: I thought that was eye opening and not a great way,

651
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Speaker 11: not a good way, and you were not necessarily ready,

652
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Speaker 11: and they are and they went to the super Bowl

653
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Speaker 11: that year, and then last year we went there and

654
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Speaker 11: more than held our own with them and certainly looked

655
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Speaker 11: absolutely every bit like we belonged on the field with them,

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Speaker 11: and obviously both teams went to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So Minnesota is a team that I would say, on paper,

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Speaker 2: you know, we need to look, we need to be

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Speaker 2: the bullies. We need to do what Philly did to

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Speaker 2: us a couple of years ago in those joint practices.

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Speaker 2: But that's where I think we'll maybe get a little

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Speaker 2: bit more of a sense of the roles that people

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Speaker 2: are going to have. You know, for example, you'll see

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Speaker 2: some team short yardage situations. You know, is that is

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Speaker 2: that Deontay Foreman getting the bulk of the work there,

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Speaker 2: And that's where we'll have I think a better idea.

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Speaker 2: But he's a better pass catcher than I think people

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Speaker 2: realize out of the backfield, and certainly is that kind

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Speaker 2: of a power runner that will be very effective in

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Speaker 2: this offense, especially as we talked about against lighter boxes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, another name mentioned there was Michael Woods. Michael Woods

672
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Speaker 3: has been around and they like Michael Woods if he

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Speaker 3: can stay healthy, right, I mean Michael Woods. But Michael

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Speaker 3: Woods has always intrigued them, and of course they drafted him.

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Speaker 3: So here you go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, six round ro out of Oklahoma and made some catches

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Speaker 2: his rookie season. I think he had five catches for

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Speaker 2: forty five yards that year. He's got some size to him,

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Speaker 2: he's got some ability. He was very productive in college

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Speaker 2: at Oklahoma. I looked at that receiver room, Jim, and

681
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Speaker 2: to me, you've got four locks right, barring injury, Amari,

682
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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy, Elijah Moore, and Cedric Tillman. Beyond that, I

683
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Speaker 2: think it's wide open now.

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Speaker 4: David Bell.

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Speaker 2: I think David Bell's competing for a roster Scott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And part of the problem for David Bell is, you know,

689
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Speaker 2: while he is a good route runner, he is smart,

690
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Speaker 2: he does everything right, he just doesn't necessarily have that

691
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Speaker 2: juice and the speed that that some other people in

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Speaker 2: the league have.

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Speaker 3: I thought it right at the end of the year

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Speaker 3: last year, I thought he kind of found himself. Not

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Speaker 3: only that touchdown that kind of you know, opened up

696
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Speaker 3: that game against Jacksonville, but I thought that all of

697
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Speaker 3: a sudden on third down, he was finding that spot

698
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Speaker 3: beyond the sticks and getting them the first down. I

699
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Speaker 3: thought he found that part of the grass, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it seemed to me that was his role anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen catches one hundred and sixty seven yards last year. Obviously,

702
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Speaker 2: his first career touchdown on that fourth down play against

703
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Speaker 2: the Jags where they forgot to cover David Bell and

704
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: he went for forty one yards. Best game, though, the

705
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Speaker 2: most encouraging thing if you're David Bell, that you're trying

706
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Speaker 2: to build on was Week eighteen.

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Speaker 4: We rest the starters.

708
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Speaker 2: He gets to start that game, but Cincinnati did not

709
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Speaker 2: rest their starters. You were playing them certainly on the

710
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. And he had four catches

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Speaker 2: sixty yards and caught two touchdowns in that.

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Speaker 3: Game, and one of them was a beauty, a beautiful

713
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Speaker 3: catch show in the right corner. He got his feet down,

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Speaker 3: made a great play.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're hoping that he can build on that

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Speaker 2: and kind of cement himself. You know, talking to some

717
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: people in the organization, they think that. And you know,

718
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: the option ruts, the choice ruts, the freedom those are

719
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Speaker 2: the things route running, those are the things that he does.

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Speaker 2: Wel just does he have enough juice? You know, they've

721
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Speaker 2: liked Jamari Thrash so far. I think Jamari Thrash would

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Speaker 2: probably be you know, if you're saying six today, you

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Speaker 2: probably say Bell and Jamari Thrash. But you know, Jalen

724
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Speaker 2: Darden's got some abilities, certainly as a returner as well.

725
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Speaker 2: You got Mike Woods, you got Matt Landers, who has

726
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Speaker 2: unique size and speed in terms of what they've got

727
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: a Marie and Brown's i know, and undrafted free agent

728
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: who never was really all that productive in college, although

729
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Speaker 2: he does have one cool little fact about him. In

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, as a freshman at George Attack and they

731
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Speaker 2: don't throw it a ton, he had twenty one catches,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety six yards and seven touchdowns, which

733
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Speaker 2: actually tied Calvin Johnson's record for most touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: They didn't throw it at all. They were like a

735
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Speaker 3: service academy because of Paul Johnson, their head coach. They

736
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Speaker 3: didn't and they had and they had Calvin Josh and

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Speaker 3: then Jamarius Thomas. Yeah, I mean they would throw it

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Speaker 3: at all, you know, really army throw it more than

739
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Speaker 3: they did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's you know again, these are guys that

741
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: are competing. Brown's got four three, seven forty, same with Landers.

742
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: Landers though, does that at six or four, whereas Brown's

743
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Speaker 2: a smaller receiver.

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Speaker 4: It to me, this is a group of four.

745
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: We're going to see more ten personnel than we've seen

746
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: ever out of out of Kevin Stefanski and it's possible,

747
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: quite frankly, that the Browns lead the league in ten

748
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: personnel this year, which is four receivers, no tight ends.

749
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: This team is those four are there. I think everything

750
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Speaker 2: else is open. I think if you go out there

751
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Speaker 2: and you have a big time preseason, you know you

752
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: have a chance potentially to move kind of up the

753
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: ladder here with this Cleveland.

754
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Speaker 4: Browns football team.

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Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we're going to go

756
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: around the league a little bit. We're going to talk

757
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 2: at some linebacker lists from the ESPN as well as

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus. We'll hear about that, and then coming

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Speaker 2: into our number two, we kick things off with the

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Speaker 2: general manager of your Cleveland Browns, an exclusive interview you

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Speaker 2: can only hear on Cleveland Brown's Daily Good.

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Speaker 1: Talk, broadcasting live from the Greenbrier Resort and Training Camp,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. This is Cleveland Browns Daily Front to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett, now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: to fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Fans Come Party with Josh Cribbs, Kevin Mack,

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Speaker 2: Joe Hayden and more.

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Speaker 2: has joined the Las Vegas trip. There will be a

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Speaker 2: boat party on the Mississippi for Browns fans the night

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Speaker 2: before the game featuring Kevin Mack.

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Speaker 4: That's got to be in in New Orleans. That is

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Speaker 4: in New Orleans. Oh, on the Mississippi. They're doing so.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Mac going to New Orleans. Hayden's in Vegas, yep. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I thought you had.

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Speaker 3: I thought you had.

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Speaker 4: Both of them.

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Speaker 3: If you can't have a good time with Joe Hayden,

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Speaker 3: you can't have a good time. I think that is

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Speaker 3: fair to say you will.

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Speaker 2: He's so positive, so much energy, so positive. Guy, loves golf,

787
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: obsessed with the game of now. Oh yeah, becoming he

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00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: is an avid, avid golfer now and doing well, playing well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, playing well. Yeah. It's one of those things he

790
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: wants to Concker.

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Speaker 3: Did you open him to the game?

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Speaker 2: I did not, but he and I have had many

793
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: a discussion about oh, yeah, he is, he's he actually

794
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: plays with uh. I think Nick Jonas and Jonas out

795
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Speaker 2: in l A playing golf together all the time, and

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Speaker 2: Nick Jones is a big.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're in l A c C.

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Speaker 4: But maybe bel Air. Yeah, it's there and there Riviera, who.

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Speaker 2: Knows, someplace, someplace lovely, a lovely place to play, to play,

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Speaker 2: you're in golf, for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: No, it is not all right. We're gonna go around

803
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: the league right now. The Bengal have unveiled a state

804
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: of the art locker room renovation that includes upgraded lockers,

805
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: rhythm lighting that sinks to music in a new sound system,

806
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: increased Wi Fi. Joe Burrow on the new locker room quote,

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Speaker 2: it's sick. We're gonna love coming into work. I'm really

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00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: happy with it. It's quite an upgrade.

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Speaker 3: You know, one time I was doing a Bengals game

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00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: on NBC and you would go in on Friday, you know,

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Speaker 3: to meet with the players and coaches, and so the

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: Friday practice is kind of you know, fast Friday, informal

813
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: fast Friday, and the big excitement that day in the

814
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Speaker 3: Bengals locker room was they were getting pizza for lunch

815
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: and they went, Wow, this is really this is changing

816
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: the culture here. We're gonna have pizza.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing. I think they do things down there.

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Speaker 3: I think they do them, you know, a little lower,

819
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: a little slower, that's right, but you know they're getting there.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, I think a lot of it has

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00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: to do with Mike Brown's daughter, who is heavily investing

822
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 4: in that football team and like getting their own endoor facility. Yeah,

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00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: you know, she's really been adamant, like we're gonna we

824
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: need to spend money to keep up here.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's amazing when you watch them practice and

826
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Speaker 3: where they practice, Yes, I mean right in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Of the city. Yes, right right around there's a break

828
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Speaker 4: there and.

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Speaker 2: I got to drive through it literally on my way

830
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Speaker 2: home from Atlanta. We went right by their practicality, right

831
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Speaker 2: by the stadium.

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Speaker 3: And remember that's a movie that's coming out in about

833
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 3: a year my the remake of the Yeah No doubt. Planes, trains,

834
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Speaker 3: and automobiles. We almost needed all of them to get

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Speaker 3: our way home.

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Speaker 2: One thing I was just saying, coming off of that report,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you talk about the Bengals.

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Speaker 9: Is that.

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Speaker 2: One thing Browns fans feel very good about is that

840
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 2: their owners are sparing no expense to give these players

841
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: the absolute best environment and the one that is most

842
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: conducive to them maximizing their potential and successful.

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: Well, and look at where we are.

844
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Speaker 4: Look where we are?

845
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: Is that the Motel six they have taken and.

846
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: Moved camp all the way out here to US Virginia.

847
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: And you know, if you go ranking and file the players,

848
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: really they're all in on this, they.

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Speaker 4: Are, and that comes.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, this is not free for

851
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: the Haslms, not by a logshot.

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: So it's another investment.

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00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: And it's one of the things that you know, you

854
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: hear players come in and they say, man, I've been

855
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: a lot of places. I haven't been a place where

856
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: I've been treated as well as this, And it's a

857
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: good thing for rookies to hear that, Hey, the grass

858
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: is not always greener out there. This is this is

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00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: a place you want to be and you're getting a sense.

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Speaker 2: You know, we heard we heard a phrase today that

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you and I have ever heard

862
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: in a such a positive light.

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00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: Cleveland culture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I first of all, I thought for a long

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00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: time we didn't have it. Then I worried we had it.

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00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: But we are on the wrong side of it. But

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Speaker 3: that has completely turned right now, and I mean it

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00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: is it is there, and it is there, and it

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00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: is building and it's become kind of a tradition now

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Speaker 3: and that's where you want it.

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00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's a place that people want it

872
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: be to come. They want to coming. Guys who were

873
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: here don't want to leave, and so that I think

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00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: is it's a very good thing for the Browns, that's

875
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: for sure. A video of Tampa Bay defensive tackle Vinevilla

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Speaker 2: shotgunning a gatorade during a Bucks practice is going viral.

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Speaker 4: Do you say pretty amazing? Brock shouted to me yesterday

878
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: the big bottles.

879
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Louise literally shotguns. He just needs that hydration. Good

880
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: for him. Got to get to the warf lights, yeah,

881
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: got to hit the field early.

882
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: There.

883
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: In some not so good news out of Pittsburgh, although

884
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 2: the lots of reports now of Justin Field's throwing picks

885
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: and now everybody there is down on him. In Steelers

886
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: rookie wide receiver Roman Wilson was carted off the field

887
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: of today's practice. Reports that it looked like an apparent

888
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: left foot or ankle injury. Obviously, hope he does well.

889
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: Was a very productive player at Michigan and actually fell

890
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: a lot. People thought he's gonna go in the second

891
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: round of this drift.

892
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: I remember that, yeah, yeah, And I thought he was

893
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: very very effective at Michigan. Best catcher's big plays at

894
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: big times and games. Absolutely, you know one of those

895
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: guys that when I.

896
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: Needed to play, they went, They went to Roman Wilson.

897
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: There's no doubt, all right, Gibbey, let's get you in here.

898
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus has put out their top thirty two

899
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: linebackers ESPN Jeremy Fowler now talking about the different you know,

900
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: with the executives and coaches around the league to put

901
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: together the top ten. These are off ball linebackers, not

902
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: outside linebackers.

903
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: I believe it's true for both of them. Might not be,

904
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: but we'll see here as we go.

905
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get

906
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: to ten, but I think I got I've got some

907
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: good guesses for you. When you got the ESPN list

908
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: at the at the and Jim, you do you throw

909
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: out names too. Let's see if we can nail the

910
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: top ten, Roqwan Smith.

911
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: Number two, number two on your list, very good player,

912
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 4: not Matt Mulano. Let's see number three on the ESPN list,

913
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 4: number four list. Let's think.

914
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got very good Fred Warner.

915
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: Number one on the ESPN list, number one on the PFF.

916
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 3: And I'm going to go home. J Okay.

917
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 4: I can't believe it took you this long. Number six

918
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 4: on the ESPN's or.

919
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: Four for four, Bobby, what do you think of that?

920
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: Number eight on the PFF list.

921
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: Number six? Yes, yeah, the guy Dida saw what we

922
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: saw last year, especially at the end of the year.

923
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: He did something that only two linebackers have done since

924
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: twenty ten. And I think I want to say I

925
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: know was Luke Keikley and I want to say the

926
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: other it was one of the Buccaneers guys at David.

927
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: It could have been Levante. I think it was Levante David.

928
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: He had twenty tackles for loss and one hundred tackles

929
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: in the same season as an off ball linebacker. That

930
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: doesn't happen twentyut this last he was third in the

931
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: NFL behind two pass rushers Danil Hunter. I think in

932
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: Max Crosby were one and two he was number three.

933
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: So you talked about making impact plays. He can sack

934
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: the quarterback, he can play the run, he can cover

935
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: in space, he can do it.

936
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely do it all and listen.

937
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: There wasn't much positive to take out of that playoff

938
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: loss in Houston. But if there was one thing, it

939
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: was a j ok was not the best player on

940
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: the Browns that day. He was the best player on

941
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: the field.

942
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 3: All over the field. He was all over the field. Yeah, yep, yeah,

943
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: are we going?

944
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: So we got four for four for four so far?

945
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Patrick Queen on the ESPN list, number four, What

946
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 4: a pickup by the squealers.

947
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: I know, you leave the Ravens, get out of the

948
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: divisionionet out of here, me alone like seven at PFF.

949
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: All right, so we have five for five, Bobby Wagner,

950
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: we get one hundred and eighty tackles last.

951
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: Year, scrolling scrolling, Uh oh, you might not be getting

952
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 4: this one twenty for on the PF twenty Honorable mention

953
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: of the Yes.

954
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: We won't we won't dig ourselves too bad for that

955
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: one to Mario Davis, former Cleveland Brown.

956
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 4: Number eight on the ESPN list, number three on PFF.

957
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh, Tomorrio, we only knew you for such such a

958
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: short period of generous on Levante David. Is he on

959
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: the list?

960
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: He's sixth on the PFF list Honorable Mention on ESPN

961
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 4: Honorable Mention Edmunds. Yeah, who's on the Bears now, yep,

962
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: number seven the ESPN list. All right, so I think

963
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: we've got car Be eleven on the PFFN them. I'll

964
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 4: throw another one.

965
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: Uh, the guy from the Jets, Quincy Williams.

966
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: He's twelve on the PFF honorable mention, on the honorable mention,

967
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 4: I've got uh. So that there's one that PFF didn't

968
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: count because they didn't think they don't know if he's

969
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: going to play this year or not. That's green Law

970
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: from the forty nine. ESPN had him ninth. Okay, so

971
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: so two more give us some hints. One plays for Jacksonville. Oh,

972
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: he's number ten on the list of one place for

973
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: the defending Super Bowl champs. And he's number five on

974
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: the list.

975
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 2: Oh the guy, the kid from Bolton, Yes, Nick Bolton,

976
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: that was the guy that was. The Browns were very

977
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: high on Nick Bolton and that year they may have

978
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: taken him when shocked a lot of people with a

979
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: big mike linebacker, but the Browns were very high on

980
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: Nick Bolton. You said, the other one's for the Jags.

981
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: The Jags a number ten.

982
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: Hm, That Devin Lloyd.

983
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to pronounce

984
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 4: his name.

985
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the guy that was from the Falcon.

986
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: He from Yale. Didn't he play at Yale Olacon? Yeah? Yes, yeah,

987
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: was gonna call him f F. I'm gonna pull a

988
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: dec and just use his first initial is like F O,

989
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: Y E S A D something like that. AD.

990
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I remember that guy. Yeah, we had them.

991
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: That was my first game ever in the booth with you.

992
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: Was outside of London and obviously oh yeah yeah. Continental

993
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: US was JAG's preseason game.

994
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 3: But he had a very good game against We recapped

995
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: that last year.

996
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he came when he came to the

997
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Jags the year before Atlanta had something like one hundred

998
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: and ninety tackles.

999
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: He led the league in tackles. All right, rock any

1000
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: other linebackers on the PFF Top thirty two. The Honorable

1001
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: mentions for ESPN C J Mosley Lead, Quincy Williams, Logan

1002
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 4: Wilson of the Bengals, Franklin, TJ. Edwards, Franklin, Bobby Wagner.

1003
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner deserves a little bit of boy.

1004
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of these are really older linebackers. Yeah, is

1005
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: the position getting old?

1006
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: What do you think j Ok is the young.

1007
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's young. Patrick Queen's young, but.

1008
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: He's into his second contract. But yes, relatively, Yes, I agreed, Yeah,

1009
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: a lot of them are older. I think it's one

1010
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 2: of those positions that with you get a good guy

1011
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: in there and they can play for a long long

1012
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: time and be very very effective for you to play.

1013
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: The position doing that.

1014
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: That's interesting. That's interesting j Ok getting there. Quite frankly,

1015
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: it's just it's deserved. It is absolutely it is his

1016
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: just due, as they like to say.

1017
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: But they've also this team went out and addressed a

1018
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: major need to help those linebackers make plays. Yeah, up

1019
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 4: the defensive line, Dalvin Tomlinson, are you talking about Yeah, yeah,

1020
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 4: but I meant I just met it like last year.

1021
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: You know, j Ok had had a great year And

1022
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm not taking anything away. He's he's deserving of the

1023
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: extent of an extension at some point, and he like

1024
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 4: as you guys said in that playoff game, he was

1025
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: the best player on the field. But it also has

1026
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: helped that this team addressed the guys in front of

1027
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: him that allow him to go around and not right, he's.

1028
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: Not taking on lineman at the second level, and he's

1029
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: got a unique ability.

1030
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: And they did that after that that Eagles joint practice.

1031
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: They knew Morgan, Yeah they did, and they did do that,

1032
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: and that's one of the reason they draft a guy

1033
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: like Saki as well. You need your playmakers free to

1034
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: make was or where did Jordan.

1035
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: Hicks land on that? On PFF? Was he on that?

1036
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 4: He wasn't there. Nope. That's interesting to me because he's been.

1037
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: So productive, so consistent, and he is, you know, five

1038
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: straight seasons over under tackles, excellent in coverage. That's interesting

1039
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: and I think I know he'll benefit from being here

1040
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: with the guys in front, like you talked about. And

1041
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: I think j Okay, you know you talked to Jim

1042
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: Schwartz about it, or Jason tarveror they think jok is

1043
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: going to benefit tremendously from being next to Jordan Hicks.

1044
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: I don't doubt it. I think he is boy his arrow,

1045
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: his way up. I mean it really is you thrilling

1046
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 3: to watch play?

1047
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 9: He is?

1048
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: He is, and that's just not the Golden Domer coming

1049
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: out in dominant.

1050
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no no. And the other thing is he

1051
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: really he knows the game?

1052
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: Now? Yeah? No.

1053
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: I think you know, early on he counted on his

1054
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 3: natural ability and really didn't understand the NFL game. Now

1055
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 3: he does, and you put that together with a lot

1056
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 3: of athletic ability, and wow, you have a great player.

1057
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: Used to always say, and you see too much, you

1058
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: see too little, and and I think for a long

1059
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: time he was seeing too much. And now he knows

1060
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: exactly what he's supposed to be seeing. And that's great

1061
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: for the Browns, bad for the rest of the NFL.

1062
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: When we come back, WHOA, what a treat. We're gonna

1063
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: be joined by the general manager of your Cleveland Browns,

1064
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: Andrew Berry, live from the Greenbrier in West Virginia.

1065
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: The field's getting set up.

1066
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: Brown's training Camp practice number five just about a half

1067
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: hour away.

1068
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Speaker 4: Here you're listening to eight fifty ESPN.

1069
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Speaker 1: Cleveland broadcasting live from the Greenbrier Resort and Training Camp

1070
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

1071
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,759
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1072
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1073
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,359
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1074
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,359
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1075
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: at the Green Briar, Nathan Zegura, the voice of your Browns,

1076
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: Jim Donvan, and we are joined now by a big

1077
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: il luminary, the general manager of your Cleveland Browns, Andrew

1078
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: Berry Ab.

1079
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: How you doing.

1080
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 9: I'm doing well, Nathan, Jim, thank you for having me.

1081
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to have you back at the

1082
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Greenbrier this year. How's it been going so far?

1083
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 9: It's besides the rain today, it's been it's been going

1084
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 9: really well.

1085
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 5: You know.

1086
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 9: We love it here. It's it's secluded, allows us to

1087
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 9: focus on us. The facilities are great, the staff's fantastic.

1088
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 9: So we're we're excited to be back here for a

1089
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 9: second year.

1090
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: So you you saw work coming here last year, Yeah,

1091
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: and easy decision.

1092
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 9: Then took, Yeah, incredibly easy decision to come back.

1093
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: Jim.

1094
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 9: We just felt like to be away from the distractions

1095
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 9: to allow the team to come together, both personally and professionally.

1096
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 9: It was the right way to start camp. You know,

1097
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 9: set the set the tone, so to speak, before we

1098
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 9: go back to Bria.

1099
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna talk about this team in a second.

1100
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: But I've been told, you know, on the day off,

1101
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: that you lead a hike that is not for the

1102
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: faint of heart. And I've heard that two years ago.

1103
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: So people almost didn't survive this hike and maybe opted

1104
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: out this year. Tell us about the yearly ab hip.

1105
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 9: So it was actually h recommended by one of our

1106
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 9: local beat writers, Terry Pluto. He he had done the

1107
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 9: the paths and he was basically like, hey, just as

1108
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 9: a heads up, like the last you know, may be

1109
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 9: three fourths of a mile. It's super steep and it's

1110
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 9: really you know, it's really hard, and you know, we

1111
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 9: so we went as a group last year and we

1112
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 9: started off it's like, oh this is so bad. Oh,

1113
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 9: Terry just you know, he just he just like built

1114
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 9: this up. And then we got to the ascent and

1115
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 9: it was it was it was pretty brutal. Now the

1116
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 9: lookout point was was worth it. Now here's the thing.

1117
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 9: We did it again this year. So it was about

1118
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 9: we hiked two and a half miles last year and

1119
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 9: we were doing the i'll say, quote unquote same hike

1120
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 9: this year. Well, we made a comedy of theirs and

1121
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 9: got lost multiple times. The two and a half mile

1122
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 9: hike turned into nine and a quarter miles, and it

1123
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 9: was it was rough.

1124
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 5: It was rough.

1125
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. It was it was. It was.

1126
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: It was rough. Next year you might be alone.

1127
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 9: Yeah no, that well, so I'm gonna I'm gonna blame

1128
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 9: our personnel Operations director Meghan rock uh and say that

1129
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 9: she can no longer be navigator this year, so our

1130
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 9: next year. So we'll get it right third times in turn.

1131
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 9: That's right, that's exactly right.

1132
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: Well, you guys got shape nine miles on a bonus workout.

1133
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, my feet and knees and ankles, I'm like all

1134
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 9: sort of like cut. Coming up these stairs was just

1135
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 9: like a cree send people out. So funny thing is

1136
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 9: we got we actually got lost at the lookout point

1137
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 9: the first year, and then one of our ops interns, Jacqueline,

1138
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 9: I just take the vand to to to get us

1139
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 9: back down to the entry point. So uh, don't follow

1140
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 9: us with the hyke now.

1141
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: No, don't do that, but follow this football team on

1142
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: the field. Man, I'll tell you what. It just we're

1143
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: just easing into things. Obviously the first day in pads

1144
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: today and no team periods anything like that, but you

1145
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: can just see that the talent that is out there

1146
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: and obviously some more guys you want to get back

1147
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: on the field. But how are you feeling about just

1148
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: a state of the roster right now?

1149
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 9: I feel like this is you know, we're we're encouraged

1150
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 9: with the state of the roster. We like the mix

1151
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 9: of talent, youth, experience, believe that everybody on our team

1152
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 9: can either has a role or we'll fight for a role.

1153
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 9: So we're we're very optimistic. We want to make sure

1154
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 9: we're healthy. That's why, you know, that's probably the big thing.

1155
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 9: And uh, we're also you know, hum enough to realize

1156
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 9: that that hits a competitive league and you never know,

1157
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 9: you know how things will surprise you in both directions

1158
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 9: going into it. So you know, we're we're cautiously optimistic.

1159
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 9: We feel like we have a lot of talent, you know,

1160
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 9: in the mix, but we still have a long way

1161
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 9: to go and a lot of work to do before

1162
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 9: we get to where we need to be.

1163
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 3: You know, David and was speaking with the media today

1164
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: and he goes, I'm in my eighth year and I go, wow, yeah,

1165
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 3: is it an older roster, right because I look at

1166
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: them and you know, Dene, Yeah, you know, he's a kid,

1167
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: you know.

1168
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, Jim, I think we have a nice

1169
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 9: mix of youth and experience. Like for I think for

1170
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 9: the longest time, you know, particularly call it six seven

1171
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 9: years ago, we were always like the youngest team in

1172
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 9: yest right bye by like we were like historically young,

1173
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 9: and now I think we're you know now, The way

1174
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 9: we think about it is like basically snap adjusted age,

1175
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 9: so waight age by how many SNA apps the players

1176
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 9: actually take. We're really more middle of the pack, which

1177
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 9: is kind of where you want to be in your

1178
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 9: you know, in your competitive windows. So we think it's

1179
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 9: it's the right mix.

1180
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: As we see her today, one of those veterans. And

1181
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: you made Jim very happy by resolving whatever the situation

1182
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: was with a Mari.

1183
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: Cooper.

1184
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: Talk to us about kind of that decision and what

1185
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: that sets up not only for this year maybe some

1186
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: flexibility for the football team, but also for the future.

1187
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 9: No, we we we love Amar. We love a Mari

1188
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 9: and and we know our fans of a Mari. He's

1189
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 9: a he's an excellent player. He's an excellent human being.

1190
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 9: He's a big piece of our locker room. And so

1191
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 9: we were we were able to you know, get that,

1192
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 9: get that resolved. And you know, I think a Mari

1193
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 9: a Mario was good at communicating throughout the whole time.

1194
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 9: I know, you know, he talked a little bit about

1195
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 9: his decision to sit out at mini camp, and you know,

1196
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 9: we knew he wasn't gonna sit out at training camp.

1197
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 9: But but we understood his position in terms of not

1198
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 9: you know, taking on injury risk something you know, flu

1199
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 9: you know, flu cap and but we were you know,

1200
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 9: we were happy to to to to get it to

1201
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 9: a good place. You know, as we enter enter camp

1202
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 9: and enter the season. He's a big part of he's

1203
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 9: a big part of what we do. And uh, we

1204
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 9: have a lot of love and respect and appreciation for him.

1205
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: Now you don't have this going on and a Maria

1206
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: is here and you know it's all done. But there

1207
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: are teams that have this new thing of guys coming

1208
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: in but they don't perform because they're waiting on a deal.

1209
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: You know that it's nice that we don't have that,

1210
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: but that's trouble.

1211
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think each organization handles it differently. I mean,

1212
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 9: I think you can look at so look at the

1213
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 9: two teams that went to the Super Bowl last year.

1214
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 9: Kansas City dealt with that with their longest tenured or

1215
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 9: one of their longest tenured players, and Chris Jones he

1216
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 9: didn't he actually didn't play Week one. Didn't really impact

1217
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 9: their culture or their their season.

1218
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1219
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 9: San Francisco they dealt with that with you know, with

1220
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 9: Nick Bosa and Deebo and they're having a couple of

1221
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 9: you know, situations this year. Didn't really impact their their

1222
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 9: their culture or their season. So it's it's you know,

1223
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 9: it's in un fortunate part of the part of the business.

1224
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 9: I think, you know, for us, a big way that

1225
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 9: we've prevented that is being proactive, you know, with our guys.

1226
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 9: And then the other thing is like our guys you

1227
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 9: know generally know we have a long standing policy that

1228
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 9: you know, for for holdens or holdouts, we don't you know,

1229
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 9: we don't negotiate. So we're just being consistent, but also

1230
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 9: more importantly being proactive with our guys.

1231
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: That's that's the important part. And it's good you got

1232
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 4: that done.

1233
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: There's really kind of now it's just when will some

1234
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: of the guys coming off injury be back. That's kind

1235
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: of the biggest question right now for this team. And

1236
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: as you kind of look at the roster with some

1237
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: of those guys, you know, when are you kind of

1238
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: hopeful for maybe some of these tackles, especially to say,

1239
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: on the offensive line, so we can kind of see

1240
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: what this this line is gonna look like.

1241
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1242
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 9: I won't go into specifics with the timeline other than

1243
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 9: to say the guys they're they're progressing appropriately for their

1244
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 9: respective injuries. You know, we want them back on the

1245
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 9: field as soon as possible, no different than our fans,

1246
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 9: and you know, no different than than you do, Nathan,

1247
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 9: and you do, Jim. But we're gonna we're gonna deal

1248
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 9: with it day by day and week white week and

1249
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 9: make sure that they're ready to go so that when

1250
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 9: they do get on the field they don't have to

1251
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 9: come back off.

1252
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: Do you think when we watch the offense, we're going

1253
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: to go when it's finally out there, we're going to go, wow,

1254
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: really different?

1255
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1256
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: Or is it?

1257
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 9: You know, it's a good it's a good question, Jim. I.

1258
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 9: I think when we watch the offense, it will be

1259
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 9: a scheme that maximizes the skill sets of our players,

1260
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 9: and that can look a number of different ways depending

1261
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 9: on the opponent or depending on the personnel grouping that

1262
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 9: we have out here. But I think it'll be a nice,

1263
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 9: a nice blend of different things. And but part of

1264
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 9: it is, you know, part of training camp in the

1265
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 9: early part of the season is figuring out, Okay, well,

1266
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 9: what are we actually good at. Just because you do

1267
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 9: have a lot of things in doesn't mean that you're

1268
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 9: necessarily going to do all of it if you're you know,

1269
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 9: if you're not good at it. And and I don't

1270
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 9: want our fans to lose side the fact that you know,

1271
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 9: there are a number of things that that we've did

1272
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 9: in the past that were that were really good, that

1273
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 9: were going to stay, that are going to stay staples

1274
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 9: of the offense. So you know, I'm I'm excited about

1275
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 9: seeing it all come together, but you know, we're we're

1276
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 9: still in the lap, so to speak, tinkering and figuring

1277
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 9: out how how everything's going to look.

1278
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: I know that you enjoy probably some of the process.

1279
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: So you bring in Ken Dorsey and we know that

1280
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a percentage and Kevin said, you wouldn't

1281
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: put a number on it, but that will be different

1282
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 2: and so that maybe you know, we've heard more choice routes,

1283
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: option ruts, so maybe some different skill sets than perhaps

1284
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: what we were looking for before. So was that kind

1285
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: of fun for you to sit down with coach the

1286
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: Fanski coach Doris Scene and say, okay, here's give me

1287
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,479
Speaker 2: the vision.

1288
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: What are the traits you're looking for?

1289
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: What are the things that you really want to have

1290
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: in the skill position player so that we can maximize that.

1291
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think any healthy relationship or healthy dynamic between

1292
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 9: a coaching staff in our front office, there is that

1293
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 9: communication in terms of okay, here's the playing philosophy and

1294
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 9: the specific roles that we need to maximize the playing

1295
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 9: philosophy and then ultimately, you know, marrying that with with personnel.

1296
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 9: So that's a that's a yearly discussion for us. Obviously.

1297
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 9: You know, when you change your coordinator, it's you know,

1298
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 9: it's it's more more significant, and it was it was

1299
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 9: it was fun to to put together the pieces with

1300
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 9: with that group this year.

1301
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: You know, it was a great defense last year and

1302
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: a lot of wild moments.

1303
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: What is their next step?

1304
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the next step and and you know

1305
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 9: Jim has been very proactive is really making sure that

1306
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Speaker 9: we have a number of you know, counter punches because

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Speaker 9: as good as we were last year, one every every

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Speaker 9: year is different.

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Speaker 4: And two.

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Speaker 9: Teams now have a full year of you know, what

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 9: we do, and and and and and it would be

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Speaker 9: silly of us to think that we're gonna be there

1313
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 9: aren't gonna be some adjustments in terms of how we play.

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Speaker 9: So Jim and the defensive staff, they've been very mindful

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00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 9: of that we're still gonna be, you know, at our core,

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00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 9: uh you know attack defense that that you know, plays

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00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 9: a lot of one high coverage and pressed man, but

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00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 9: making sure that we have the things that play off

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00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 9: of that that give us another first for you know,

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00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 9: some of the new ways that that offenses may try

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Speaker 9: and exploit us.

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Speaker 2: When you think about your your first time with the Browns,

1323
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: and I imagine it was difficult maybe to get people

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00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: to want to come be Cleveland Browns, and then you

1325
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: think about the fact this year Zadarius wanted to come back,

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: Shelby wanted to come back, Mohurst wanted to come back,

1327
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: Jordan Hicks wanted to join the fold, Rodney McLeod had

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00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: to come back, that guys want to be Cleveland Browns.

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00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: When you kind of think of what that means from

1330
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: a culture perspective, how kind of proud are you of

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00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: that development?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think I think players, coaches, staff,

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00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 9: they want to be able to win, and they want

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00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 9: to feel like they're treated well. And I think it

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00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 9: really just kind of boils down to that, and especially

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00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 9: those vets who we have such a high amount of,

1337
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 9: you know, respect, our high degree of respect for to

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 9: be able to bring them back and for them to

1339
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 9: want to come back. It's it's just something that's very

1340
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 9: important to us.

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00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 4: You know.

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: I was telling the birthday guy over there about this,

1343
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: but Dustin Hopkins, we did an interview with him and

1344
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: it may as well have been a ps A for

1345
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: the Browns, and he spoke a lot about what you

1346
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 2: were talking about. That it's at the football is great,

1347
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: but the values being able to spend time with your family,

1348
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: things like that that are clearly important to this organization

1349
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: and aren't maybe in some others, is a pretty special thing.

1350
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: And I think you guys have done a great to

1351
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: George Hicksett already. This is completely different than anything I've

1352
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: ever experienced in a very positive way.

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Speaker 9: It's it's always great for the guys who have been

1354
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 9: other places to be able to say that, to give

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01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 9: the p s a so to speak, because it certainly

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01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 9: helps with recruiting y and but but also just as

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01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 9: importantly it helps, you know, our younger players who have

1358
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 9: only come up in Cleveland to hear that from people appreciate,

1359
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 9: but yeah, appreciate, appreciate what's here. So that's always that's

1360
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 9: always really good to hear. And we're going to continue

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01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 9: to strive and be better, be be top of class

1362
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 9: in those areas so we can get the best talent.

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Speaker 3: Part I've r at the end of it, he said,

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Speaker 3: I'm Dustin Hopkins, and I approve. I approve this football

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Speaker 3: one on. I'm really interested your staff right now, scouts,

1366
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Speaker 3: personnel people, what are they doing right now?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so it depends on what area that you're in.

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Speaker 9: So I'll break it down simply just to the scouts. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: so I'll touch on our our college scouting staff. They're

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Speaker 9: already out on the road. They're yeah, they're they're going

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Speaker 9: out to you know, different training camps for colleges in

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Speaker 9: their areas, talking with coaches, seeing you know, propects because

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01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 9: all summer, they had been setting our initial draft board.

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01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 9: They they had gone gone in there done the rising seniors,

1375
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 9: draft eligible juniors so they could budget their.

1376
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Speaker 4: Time in the fall.

1377
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Speaker 9: So that's that's where they are. Our pro scouting staff.

1378
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 9: They're doing a combination of internal scouting with our team

1379
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 9: as we think about cutting the roster the next couple

1380
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 9: of weeks and really preparing for preseason scouting, which is

1381
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 9: scouting all thirty one other teams so we have the

1382
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 9: ability to acquire players that could help us. So that's

1383
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 9: what led to the Pierre Strong trade last year. It

1384
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 9: led to claiming high yeah, yeah, and it led to

1385
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 9: us training for Dustin Hopkins. That that process led to

1386
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 9: those to those three transactions. Our contract management team, we

1387
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 9: usually take this time to think about, Okay, how are

1388
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 9: we going to handle things from here to the trade deadline,

1389
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 9: if different opportunities come up, if we're dealing with different extensions,

1390
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 9: like August is a big time for that, and then

1391
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 9: maybe some early initial planning around twenty twenty five, and

1392
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 9: you know, twenty twenty five and beyond.

1393
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get you out of here on this

1394
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: one and appreciate the time as always, So training camp underway,

1395
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: obviously exciting preseason games coming. What are you just kind

1396
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: of hoping to see maybe even top level, not getting

1397
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: into the weeds with positions or battles or anything like that,

1398
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: but what are you just kind of hoping to see

1399
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: from this football team? Is you ramp up with all

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01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: eyes on September eight against the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 9: And beyond Number one is health, which I probably I

1402
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 9: think every general manager will say that.

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01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: Kevin we agree.

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01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 9: Kevin always jokes with me because I'm like, I'm like,

1405
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 9: if you ask me, I would say, like, we never

1406
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 9: practice because I just want to put everybody in all

1407
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 9: the recks.

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: They're healthy for the help season. I'm with you.

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Speaker 9: Number two, come together as a group that likes being

1410
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 9: around one another. Why this green prior time is really

1411
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 9: important because that's the stuff that helps when you go

1412
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 9: through the moments of adversity. And then number three, it's

1413
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 9: maximizing our potential within the respective systems that we have

1414
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 9: on all three sides of the ball. And that's going

1415
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 9: to come with practices and reps because I think if

1416
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 9: we hit those three aiming points, we'll look up and

1417
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 9: be happy where we are. In September eighth, and December

1418
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 9: eighth and February eighth, you know, so really focusing on

1419
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 9: the daily process and then we think the outcomes will

1420
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 9: be pleased.

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Speaker 2: With Well, thanks for the time and best of luck

1422
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: achieving those three things and then getting into this season

1423
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: and letting this team re.

1424
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Speaker 9: Up appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, General Manager Andrew Berry with us. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more. Cleveland Browns Daily Live from the Green

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Speaker 4: They don't have the desire to go sprints.

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Speaker 3: They're all about the tree, okay, right, nothing about the race,

1444
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Speaker 3: nothing about the word.

1445
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Speaker 4: Just give me the tree because I'm cute.

1446
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: And then I wear the shirt that says sucker on it.

1447
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: You know, I give them the tree. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: My kids yell at me all the time because I

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: and our dog is she did have to go on

1450
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: a die, but she's in very good shape now. But

1451
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: my dog lives for our affection and for food. And

1452
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: I always tell my kids, I say, imagine this. Imagine

1453
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: if tomorrow a one hundred foot giant came and plucked

1454
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: you away from your family and said, you're going to

1455
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: live with us.

1456
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 4: Now. You're never going to see any of us again.

1457
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: And perhaps when you get to go walk around the neighborhood,

1458
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: you see other humans and they know that what really

1459
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Speaker 2: makes you happy is a little bit of affection and food.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be mean if they denied you food?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 3: Yes, right?

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Speaker 2: So if that makes if if Asa wants a treat, fine,

1464
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: she wants a bite of steak, She's she's a she's

1465
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: a great carnivore. Fine, try to make her life as

1466
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Speaker 2: happy as it can be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice and smooth. But anyway, you should go to

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Speaker 3: the races down at the stadium. They're great.

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: They are very they are they certainly are. The crop

1470
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: really does get into it. Yes, it's a great halftime event.

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Speaker 4: They lock on just one little cute guy and.

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Speaker 2: Boom they get their face and favorites and hopefully they

1473
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: can get across the finish line. Much like spoiler alert

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: Olympics if you're not watching, the women's rugby sevens team

1475
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: had probably one of the most dramatic finishes you will

1476
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 2: ever see to earn the bronze medal.

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Speaker 3: They have been a great opening act in the Olympics

1478
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 3: for the United States. I think that's you know, not

1479
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: that I know it, you know the background of it,

1480
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: but I would think this is a bit of a surprise.

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Speaker 4: It is a surprise.

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01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a massive upset to beat Australia and

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01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: they get that bronze medal. On literally it would be

1484
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Speaker 2: it was kind of somebody said it was like the

1485
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen Alabama Auburn Iron Bowl, with just the shocking

1486
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: nature of the return when it was over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about the kid we did yesterday in

1488
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: a different veins.

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Speaker 4: It all comes full circle here.

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Speaker 3: Incidentally, on that down note, the men's gymnastics team we watched, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not good for them, Good for them, bronze medal, Yeah,

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: well done they hark.

1493
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Speaker 2: Kent now the new hero on the pommel horse, locked

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01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: in his glasses, Superman get ready?

1495
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Speaker 4: He was How about that guy?

1496
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: He was in his own I have to tell you

1497
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 3: he was making me nervous.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of memes on social media saying,

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: you know, telling that people's bosses don't get mad at

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Speaker 2: me when I'm napping at work. I'm really just locking

1501
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: in so that I can I could do my job

1502
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: at a high level. But yeah, that was incredible.

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Speaker 4: Good for that. And the Olympic ratings are through the roof.

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Speaker 2: People are really enjoying the Olympics this summer from Paris,

1505
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: and it's been it's been fun to see the US

1506
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Speaker 2: doing a very good job.

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Speaker 4: And we'll more to come.

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Speaker 3: Think about it, you know, four years ago they were

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Speaker 3: in Tokyo and nobody was at it right. So I

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Speaker 3: think the fact that they're you know, first of all,

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Speaker 3: in a great city and that people are there. I

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Speaker 3: think it has really.

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Speaker 4: Added to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the venue sites they've chosen beautiful. Yeah,

1515
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: get a little too on two Beach volleyball with the

1516
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: Eiffel Tower literally right behind you has been awesome, all right.

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Speaker 2: The Browns are on the field now, going through kind

1518
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: of the individual period, getting warmed up, a little walk

1519
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Speaker 2: through before we get practiced. Underway here and probably a

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Speaker 2: five or so minutes. One of the things came across

1521
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Speaker 2: in was the social media from Dove Climbing Estraam was

1522
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: NFL divisions reimagined to try to make them as geographically

1523
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: close to one another as possible, and so they have

1524
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: different names for the divisions that we're used to, but

1525
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: I actually thought it was it was pretty cool. And

1526
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: so it starts off with the Pacific, which has everybody

1527
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: on the Pacific Ocean, the Seahawks, the Niners, the Rams,

1528
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 2: so those three stay the same, and then you add

1529
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: the Chargers and I kind of like the idea of

1530
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: having that some of the two city teams be in

1531
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 2: the same division together. I think that's actually pretty fun.

1532
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: Then the Big Sky Region, and this is geographically by

1533
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: far the biggest because it goes as far west as

1534
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. You got the Arizona Cardinals, and then you

1535
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: have got the Denver Broncos and the Kansas City Chiefs.

1536
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: So you could have the Raiders, the Rams, the Chargers

1537
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals in one, but then that would be

1538
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: with Seattle's just so isolated.

1539
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 4: I think that's what they felt keeping it that way

1540
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 4: made the most sense. Tell us.

1541
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: We'll be there ten eastern for the kickoff of the

1542
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 2: final preseason game, which I will tell you caught everybody

1543
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: in this organization off guard.

1544
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 4: Everybody yes, and still not answers as to why this

1545
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: has happened.

1546
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: The South would be Dallas and Houston, New Orleans and Tennessee.

1547
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: The Atlantic would be which is really they call it

1548
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: the Florida Georgia Line.

1549
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 4: Is what they should call. This one is the Falcons,

1550
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:14,759
Speaker 4: the Jags, the Bucks, and the Dolphins.

1551
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 9: Like that.

1552
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 4: I like that one. The mid Atlantic is Bengals, Ravens,

1553
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 4: Commanders and Panthers, Northeast Philly Giants, Jets, Patriots. I like

1554
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 4: that division.

1555
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty That would be a fun division

1556
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: with a lot of already very natural rivalries. The Great Lakes,

1557
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: West Minnesota, Green Bay, Chicago, Indie, and then the Great

1558
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: Lakes East, which I think would remain the best division

1559
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 2: in football Detroit Brown's, Bills, Steelers. Wow. Yeah, that would

1560
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: be a pretty fun division as well. So that's just

1561
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: kind of trying to put it geographically.

1562
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 4: We still can't get out of the best division in

1563
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 4: the end that happens. That's a loaded division.

1564
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean the Chiefs, I think would be rilled with

1565
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: this because they get they drop the the Chargers for

1566
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, so I think they would they would like

1567
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: their division. I think Cowboys and the Texans would be

1568
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: pretty fun in that South, the Atlantic Falcons, Jags, Bucks,

1569
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins pretty good as well. And that Patriots one,

1570
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 2: the Patriot and the Northeast would be that would be

1571
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 2: I think that those are the two best. Yeah, Buffalo Browns, Lions, Steelers,

1572
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: and then the other we were referencing would be Patriots, Jets, Giants, Eagles.

1573
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 3: You would almost not need a plane, you would not

1574
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 3: or the train or the train.

1575
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, they used to that. Well we bust.

1576
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 4: I know we would.

1577
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: We bust to Detroit every time I've ever gotten.

1578
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 4: So it's an awful bus ride. An awful only because

1579
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 4: I've never won.

1580
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: Ye only because of the retault, right right, I think

1581
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm the only one to hear who's who's at least

1582
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: in the last since I started, I'm the only one

1583
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: who's seen a win in Pittsburgh in person.

1584
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: I have seen one in your whole time, yeah, Tim Couch, Yeah,

1585
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 3: I mean now in this stadium, I saw another one.

1586
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: Let me see.

1587
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: Well, when they first came back, their first year back,

1588
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 3: they wonted Three Rivers. I think it was the last

1589
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: game at three Rivers Stadium.

1590
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 4: So Dawson so winning field goal, But that's amazing. Oh,

1591
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 4: you've only seen one at Heinz Field and right that

1592
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 4: was it like a Monday night or.

1593
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 3: Sunday night came Yeah, he never been had played better.

1594
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 3: He ran one in right, Yeah, and they had orange pants.

1595
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 4: On that night they did.

1596
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were really good. Yeah. Dayala mccushion had

1597
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: a big inner exception in the game and they dominated

1598
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 3: the game. And really it was really nice because they

1599
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: finally won there. The other thing was that particular night

1600
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: post game wise, I think the city of Pittsburgh felt

1601
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 3: the sky was falling.

1602
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, we need to win more than in Pittsburgh.

1603
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 2: I think that's that's a big takeaway from this segment

1604
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: the Browns, We're not getting away from him, even if

1605
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 2: they do this kind of reimagined divisions.

1606
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 4: We've got to be able to go ahead and do that.

1607
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: Some news from around the league preseason stuff might as

1608
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 2: well get into that some of the dip. We've talked

1609
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 2: so much about the different philosophies, what's going to look

1610
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: like in the preseason for various teams. Well, the Hall

1611
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: of Fame Game with the Chicago Bears, you will not

1612
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 2: be seeing Caleb Williams or any of their starters, So

1613
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: probably not a surprise. But you've heard a lot of

1614
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: people Dan or Lovsky other pundit say, you know, get

1615
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: him as many him being Caleb Williams, as many reps

1616
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 2: as you can so that he's ready to hit the

1617
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: ground running week one. The Hall of Fame Game is

1618
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: it's such a great celebration of the NFL and you

1619
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: see all the greats come back, all the gold jackets

1620
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 2: and at last year so special. We were involved in

1621
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: it obviously as Joe Thomas went into the Hall. But

1622
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: it is not a game where the people you will

1623
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: expect to see playing in Week one.

1624
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 4: Will play no, no, no, not at all. Yeah, Jo

1625
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: going to be at the thin, I don't think so.

1626
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 4: I think he is. He is in Germany.

1627
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 2: Last I saw him, he was on a like bob

1628
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 2: sled tracks going through the mountains and.

1629
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 4: I think the family was at Taylor Swift. They were

1630
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: just at tailor over the Where was that Germany and Munich, Muich, Munich. Yeah,

1631
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 4: he's in Munich. Yeah, so he's been.

1632
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: They've been all Swiss family, Thomas over there. They've been

1633
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: all over the place, adventuring.

1634
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 4: Every part of Europe, every part of it. I think

1635
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 4: they've covered it all.

1636
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then now they covered they got Taylor

1637
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: Swift as well. So no, I don't I don't think

1638
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: he will be back. But it is such a it's yeah,

1639
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: it really is a special and no doubt. Yeah, good

1640
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: luck to Canton. They do a great job down there too.

1641
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: You know they're well into it right now.

1642
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1643
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 3: Every night there's five different things going on, and you

1644
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 3: know it's everybody gets involved in it, which is really cool.

1645
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean it's a civic kind of you know experience

1646
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 3: with them well.

1647
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: And you know the other point is that sometimes while

1648
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: look we haven't had football in so long, so you'll

1649
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: watch it on Thursday night.

1650
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 4: We will watch it. I'm sure together here on Thursday night.

1651
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 3: But packing that was.

1652
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 4: I think is already packed. He was packed two.

1653
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: I hope.

1654
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: I think we'll have ample the sad parties. I think

1655
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: we'll have ample time back on Friday as before.

1656
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 4: We had home. Oh no, I think when you come

1657
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 4: here Friday morning, you'd have to have your back. Yeah

1658
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 4: that's it. Yeah, you might have to turn it in

1659
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 4: Thursday night. All right, let's just relax, it will be done.

1660
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 4: Let's deal with that when we need to deal.

1661
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I was gonna say something fun, like

1662
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: you got a glimpse of DTR and said, oh, maybe

1663
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: there's something there. Austin Watkins became your preseason standout, you know,

1664
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: in that game Ronnie Hickman looking at So there will

1665
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: be some things to watch, probably for other for you know,

1666
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: the teams that are participating, they'll be more interested.

1667
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 4: But it's fun to see.

1668
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: I know our scouts, the pro scouts will be watching

1669
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: because a lot of the guys that will be playing

1670
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: are guys that potentially could be available at the fifty

1671
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: three man cutdown days. All right, when we come back,

1672
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 2: you're gonna hear from Mike Rabel talking about his experience here,

1673
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: what it's going to mean to him to have his

1674
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: jersey retired at his high school Alma Modern, grown up,

1675
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 2: eating dog bones, all of it. It's all coming your

1676
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: way next here when Cleveland Brown's Daily returns from the

1677
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: Greenbrier as Brown's training Camp day five is just about

1678
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: officially underway.

1679
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Greenbriar Resort and Training Camp, twenty

1680
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: twenty four. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you

1681
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: by Bally bat Now live in Ohio on eight to

1682
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,879
Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1683
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 4: All right, we are back and you can hear it.

1684
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: The Brown's on the field stretching underway here training camp

1685
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: day number five at the Greenbrier. Nathan Zigura, Jim Donovan.

1686
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: But right now we're going back to the podium, baby,

1687
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,839
Speaker 2: and you're gonna hear from Brown's consultant Mike Frable.

1688
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 5: How are you good? This is experience has been Mike,

1689
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 5: and we see you everywhere on the fields.

1690
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 9: Conferent line with Jambis, some songs with b Locklin David,

1691
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 9: some time you want to scouting minebackers?

1692
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 5: Was this experiionst Pestily.

1693
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 12: Well, it's been A, it's been amazing to be able

1694
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 12: to get back on the field and and coach UH

1695
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 12: and and try to help UH where I can and

1696
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 12: most importantly learn be a part of a great staff

1697
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 12: with some really great veteran coaches, with some really great

1698
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 12: young and up and coming coaches.

1699
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 5: So wherever I can help, I'm I'm more than willing.

1700
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 4: To try to do that.

1701
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 11: And UH.

1702
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 9: When Andrew and Kevin kinds and stout to you opportunity, UH,

1703
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 9: Andrew was saying that he didn't think that he would

1704
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 9: even like be up for it. I'm sure you've had

1705
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 9: an opportunity, maybe you could have taken to your offen

1706
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 9: time with the family.

1707
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 5: What felt rough right about this opportunity? Well, I think

1708
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 5: that UH one have a lot of respect uh for

1709
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 5: this organization, what UH, Jimmy and d UH have done.

1710
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 12: Have a ton of respect for Andrew and Kevin and

1711
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 12: what they've been able to do in a short amount

1712
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 12: of time.

1713
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 5: A and it you know, I trust them. I trust

1714
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 5: them that they would UH do right.

1715
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 12: By me and that they would help me in that

1716
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 12: the position and the fit would be beneficial to everybody.

1717
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 5: Mike, You've been very hands on with tight ends pull

1718
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 5: off season. Then here why that position?

1719
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 12: Well, I mean think that's that's my role, That's what's

1720
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 12: been asked of me from from the head coach, from Kevin.

1721
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 5: He felt like that would be the.

1722
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 12: Best place to to be and so tried to absolutely

1723
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 12: embrace that and and get to know those players on

1724
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 12: a personal level and then a professional level, and you know,

1725
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 12: and help Tommy and Nemo where I can. Well, I

1726
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 12: think that's an easy transition for me. That's something that

1727
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 12: I've always been a part of, and I have history

1728
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 12: with with Bubba we were teammates and what he's been

1729
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 12: able to do transitioning from a player to a coach

1730
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 12: to be able to help him and Bravo where I can.

1731
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 12: I've played some of those positions, I've helped coach some

1732
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 12: of those positions, so that that's been something that's been

1733
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,839
Speaker 12: pretty easy with The races.

1734
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: With James have been between high light and hit off game.

1735
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: So tell us how those guts.

1736
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: Started and how are they go?

1737
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 12: You know, I think the quarterbacks, to their credit, they're

1738
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 12: not trying to waste any time or waste any reps.

1739
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: And so.

1740
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 12: You know, we do the routes on air and after

1741
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 12: the last ball is thrown, they started taking off and

1742
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 12: in off season, and I thought, well, it probably wouldn't

1743
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 12: be a bad idea to get these old bones moving.

1744
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 12: And then you know, so now we just try to

1745
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 12: have a little bit of fun with it, and and

1746
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 12: certainly those guys are trying to to get their work

1747
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,440
Speaker 12: in and and focus on the timing with the receivers.

1748
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 12: But then also you know, they're they're not wasting a

1749
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,440
Speaker 12: rep and they're taking advantage of of getting their conditioning

1750
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 12: in and then and also getting back down to the

1751
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 12: other side to where you know, we can get going again.

1752
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 9: Like what more you've heard about Tommy's because you've gotten

1753
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 9: any work, ty or.

1754
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 12: You know, I've always you know, kind of you know,

1755
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 12: known of Tommy, I've never worked together a lot of

1756
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 12: respect for really what he's been able to provide from

1757
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 12: from an overall offensive perspective.

1758
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 5: I think quarterbacks have.

1759
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 12: A unique way of doing that and seeing things from

1760
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 12: protection and from the route concepts to the run game.

1761
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 12: You know, quarterbacks have always had a great grasp of that,

1762
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 12: and he's carried that through as a tight end coach,

1763
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 12: which is always critical. Tight ends are involved in both

1764
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 12: of those phases.

1765
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 5: You know, really all three of.

1766
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 12: The phases in a run blocking and sometimes you know,

1767
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 12: we even are in protection in some different past concepts,

1768
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 12: and then you know what we're doing in the passing game.

1769
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 12: So that's been helpful for me to kind of learn

1770
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 12: the system well enough to be able to explain or

1771
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 12: answer something.

1772
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 5: And you know, Nemo has been able to do the

1773
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 5: same thing.

1774
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 12: Being here with with the Browns for a few years,

1775
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 12: you're a timeline of from Janie ury off thinking maybe

1776
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 12: you'd get another job or wondering.

1777
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 5: What was actually going to be as well.

1778
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 12: I certainly wanted to take every opportunity me and talk

1779
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 12: to everybody that that called and had some uh some

1780
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 12: great interviews, met with some some great organizations. They decided

1781
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 12: to go in a different direction, which you know happens sometimes,

1782
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 12: and then was able to you know, hear from from

1783
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 12: Andrew and Kevin and keep those conversations going. Met at

1784
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 12: the Combine and and visited and talked and got to

1785
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 12: know their staff. I mean, there's a lot of great

1786
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 12: people here. They've they've hired great people, and they may

1787
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 12: empower them to do their job. They give them ownership

1788
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 12: from a personnel perspective, From an analytics perspective, from a

1789
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 12: player development perspective, and then you know, ultimately a coaching perspective.

1790
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 5: Agency of tell surprising to you or oh, nothing surprising me.

1791
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 12: This is my twenty fifth NFL training camp, so I

1792
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 12: would say that nothing surprises me in the National Football League.

1793
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 5: Uh, that's part of the job.

1794
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 10: You know.

1795
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 12: I think it's you know, disappointing. And I think you're disappointed,

1796
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 12: you know that you couldn't you know, do the job

1797
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 12: the way that they wanted it or they envisioned it.

1798
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 12: But but again, this is a this is the opportunity

1799
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 12: that I think is best for me right now to

1800
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 12: to be able to to go through you know, draft meetings,

1801
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 12: personnel meetings with Andrew and his staff and see how

1802
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 12: that all got not navigated and how.

1803
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 5: They may do things.

1804
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 12: And there's thirty two flavors in this league and everybody

1805
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 12: does it a little differently. So it's been fun to

1806
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 12: be a part of this and try to help where

1807
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,440
Speaker 12: I can, and most especially.

1808
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,839
Speaker 4: Learn contributing in those pre draft.

1809
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 5: Meetings well just where you know what you know, you get.

1810
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 12: You know, they give you a list of players, you

1811
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 12: try to evaluate them, you try to figure out what

1812
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 12: they can do. Uh, figure out what they do best,

1813
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 12: figure out what their areas of focus are, write up

1814
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 12: a report, and then when asked about them in the meeting,

1815
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 12: try to try to give a concise ant to how

1816
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 12: you see the player, how they could fit, what roles

1817
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 12: they could fill, what positions they may be able to play.

1818
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 5: And if they don't.

1819
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 12: Call on you, you know, then then you just you know,

1820
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 12: go on to the next player. And so that's pretty

1821
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 12: much how those draft meetings went for for me. You know,

1822
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 12: it was uh, you know, a select.

1823
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 4: Group of guys that that Andrew and.

1824
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 12: His staff gave me to evaluate, and then I try

1825
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 12: to do the best job that I could at back.

1826
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 3: Just how much of the brown see growing up? Did

1827
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: you ever get dog grow?

1828
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 5: Absolutely eight dog bones?

1829
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 12: You know, I mean, I don't think you were a

1830
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 12: Browns fan in middle school, uh in Northeast Ohio if

1831
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 12: if you didn't try to get down a couple of those,

1832
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 12: you know, because they were necklaces, right they they put

1833
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 12: they make the dog.

1834
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 5: Bones into necklaces, and then you just kind of, you know,

1835
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 5: go down and grab one every once in a while.

1836
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 12: But uh, you know, you just it's uh, you know,

1837
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 12: it's a long time and you go in different directions,

1838
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 12: but certainly grew up a Browns fan then went to

1839
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 12: games and loved a lot of those those former players

1840
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 12: that that made this tradition great. And you know, you

1841
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 12: recognize how huge the fan base is and in this

1842
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 12: area and how they embrace football and not only professional football,

1843
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 12: but high school football in this area and uh, you

1844
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 12: know college football.

1845
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 5: And so you know it's certainly a football town. Mike.

1846
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,799
Speaker 8: How much have you been able to kind of recharge

1847
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 8: yourself because getting you know, getting back to just coaching.

1848
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 8: You know, you know, when you're watching you out there,

1849
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 8: it seems like you know, the energy and everything. Have

1850
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 8: you sort of recharged? And more importantly, is it logic

1851
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 8: go back to your roots a little bit?

1852
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 4: Well?

1853
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 12: I think you always you know, that's the essence of

1854
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 12: coaching is is trying to make a connection with the players,

1855
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 12: to teach them and and and develop them, make them

1856
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 12: better than than what they are. Uh when when when

1857
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 12: you begin working with them, I always love that, always

1858
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 12: something that I always.

1859
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 5: Try to do. But then sometimes as you.

1860
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 12: Work your way towards a head coach, Uh, some of

1861
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 12: those opportunities made diminish. But it's been Uh it's been

1862
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 12: good for me. It's been what I love to do.

1863
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 12: I love trying to help players and help people, uh

1864
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 12: improve and and and and also trying to learn myself

1865
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 12: along the way.

1866
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 5: Game day, Uh, there, there won't be a role on

1867
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 5: game day.

1868
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1869
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 5: That's something that that we had talked about prior to

1870
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 5: doing this, which you know, it is the right fit

1871
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 5: for everybody.

1872
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: And so.

1873
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 12: I'm gonna try to do anything that they asked me

1874
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 12: to do and and be available, uh to help throughout

1875
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 12: the week and uh you know, and then move ahead

1876
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 12: to the next opponent. And so we'll you know, that

1877
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 12: will all kind of happen organically. But that's where I

1878
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 12: see it, you know, being right now, just based off

1879
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 12: my conversations with Kevin and it sure, yeah, I mean

1880
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 12: there'll be games that that I'll be at and and

1881
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 12: and support you know as if fan and have a

1882
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 12: vested interest in and our players playing well and then

1883
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 12: us winning.

1884
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 5: At having a great interviews that may have won a

1885
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 5: different direction as.

1886
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 12: The ball, you know, to get that to that d

1887
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 12: coaching role, sure, you know, I mean at the right time.

1888
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 12: I think you know that there's a time and place

1889
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 12: for that. It's not going to be anytime soon.

1890
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 5: So I think that things that I'll ultimately learn here

1891
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 5: may may help me the next time that, you know,

1892
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 5: I get an opportunity to have one of those interviews.

1893
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 12: But this is where I'm focused on, and you know,

1894
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 12: focused on doing that and learning here and helping and

1895
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 12: then you know, if those opportunities present themselves after the season,

1896
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 12: then then I'll absolutely try to.

1897
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 5: Do that ic new kickoff play that they've put in.

1898
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 10: How how much fun have you had with well, but

1899
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 10: just trying to come up and not only learn what

1900
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 10: the rules are, but you know, coming up with you know,

1901
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 10: various schemes that you can know.

1902
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think a lot of it is just

1903
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 12: you know, there's can be some scheme and really we're

1904
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 12: just focused on fundamentals right now and how critic well

1905
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 12: that is the technique and the fundamentals, uh that's required

1906
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 12: and those types of plays that one of the hardest

1907
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 12: skills before they change the rule was was kickoff.

1908
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 5: Or turn blocking. You know, I mean you're trying to

1909
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 5: back up.

1910
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 12: You know, you have a skilled player, a fast athlete

1911
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 12: that's coming at you from from from a distance, and

1912
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 12: so it's a three way go and those were tough blocks,

1913
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 12: and so you know, we're trying to coach those techniques

1914
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 12: and fundamentals and I know that that we believe that

1915
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 12: that's what separates good players, you know too equally talented players.

1916
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 12: You know, effort and technique sometimes can make the difference

1917
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 12: between that matchup.

1918
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 5: What do you think about where's Chris Chris separate of this?

1919
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 5: I know, wall schedules retiring your jersey?

1920
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 4: What does that mean to you to.

1921
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 5: Get that on or from your school? Well, you know,

1922
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 5: I think that's where the foundation was. I mean, Jerry

1923
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 5: Rearden was and and is you know.

1924
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 12: A good mentor for me my high school foot ball

1925
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 12: coach who's still you know, a part of that school.

1926
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 12: But yeah, I think that's where the foundation uh is

1927
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 12: laid uh in the in that education there, the community

1928
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 12: at Walsh and everything that that it was provided me

1929
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 12: and as I went on into the Ohio state and

1930
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 12: ultimately the NFL.

1931
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 5: So excited to be back in this area.

1932
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 12: That's going to allow for me to to be around

1933
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 12: a little bit more often and enjoy some of those

1934
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 12: things at the school.

1935
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 5: That's the exact question that.

1936
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 3: This experience, I mean, just like you're having so much

1937
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 3: fun out there sort.

1938
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,799
Speaker 5: Of it's like innocent, just football.

1939
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 4: Fund is this experience.

1940
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 2: Maybe some without all the.

1941
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 8: Pressure and all the experience.

1942
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 7: Stuff, they go to football a little bit.

1943
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 5: But I think it's a good reminder.

1944
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 12: I think it's always a good reminder as you reflect

1945
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 12: on you know ultimately what this is and it's it's

1946
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 12: a game, and it gets that it's.

1947
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 5: A business and and it's a competitive business.

1948
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,560
Speaker 12: But not losing sight of that and not losing sight of,

1949
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 12: you know, being able to enjoy it along the way.

1950
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 12: You can work hard and have a good time at

1951
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 12: the same time. I think that that's something that's always

1952
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 12: important to remember.

1953
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Speaker 4: And might you carry that over into your next job.

1954
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Speaker 12: Just this sort of sense of fun maybe well probably

1955
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Speaker 12: going in I think you will. But then those sometimes

1956
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Speaker 12: things change, so I have to remember that when when

1957
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Speaker 12: things change.

1958
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Speaker 5: Appreciate Thank you guys. All Right.

1959
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Speaker 2: That was Brown's coaching and personnel assistant Mike Vrabel from

1960
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1961
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Speaker 4: Partner of the Cleveland Browns.

1962
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Speaker 2: So much more to come from the Greenbrier Nathan Scura

1963
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Speaker 2: and the Voice Jim Donovan. Final thoughts coming up on

1964
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's.

1965
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Speaker 1: Daily broadcasting live from the Greenbrier Resort in training Camp

1966
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to

1967
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1968
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1969
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Speaker 2: All Right, Jim, practice about to get underway. What do

1970
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Speaker 2: you want to see today?

1971
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Speaker 3: I want to say one thing about Mike frablear sure,

1972
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Speaker 3: Mike Frable will be a different coach the next time around.

1973
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Speaker 3: He's gonna pick up something and become a different coach.

1974
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Speaker 4: They all do.

1975
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Speaker 3: Actually, they leave for a year or two, they come

1976
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Speaker 3: back and a light goes on and they become different.

1977
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think he's already been very good.

1978
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Speaker 2: He's gonna understand more about the personnel side, and I

1979
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Speaker 2: think that'll be very very valuable to him. Brown's practice

1980
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Speaker 2: about to get underway here. They're going through individual drills now,

1981
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Speaker 2: they are in shells today. Tomorrow will be a walkthrough

1982
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Speaker 2: in team meetings and some team bonding. Thursday, that'll be

1983
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Speaker 2: the big day in the pat Speaking of tomorrow, Bo

1984
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Speaker 2: Bishop returning to Cleveland Brown's Daily. Tomorrow will also hear

1985
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Speaker 2: our exclusive interview with Jordan Hicks and so much more,

1986
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Speaker 2: as you'll get some coverage from West Virginia and some

1987
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Speaker 2: coverage from Cleveland all come in your way tomorrow. Here

1988
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Speaker 2: training camp day number six for your Cleveland Browns, but

1989
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Speaker 2: we'll have a full recap as well of the practice

1990
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Speaker 2: for you that's about to take place here today. The

1991
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1992
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1993
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1994
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