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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome back to Post Run High. I am

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Speaker 1: so excited for today's episode. We've got Lindsay Hubbard coming on.

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Speaker 1: She's a TV personality, entrepreneur, and fan favorite on Bravo's

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Speaker 1: Summer House. We started our day with a run before

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Speaker 1: sitting down to chat, and as always, it was the

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Speaker 1: perfect way to set the tone for our conversation that

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Speaker 1: you guys are about to listen to today. We talk

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Speaker 1: about how Lindsay first got her start here in New York.

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Speaker 1: From building her career in PR to finding her voice

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Speaker 1: on reality TV to being open about love, friendships, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Lindsay has always put it all out there,

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Speaker 1: and I think you guys are going to really appreciate

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Speaker 1: the vulnerability and honesty that she brings to today's conversation.

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Speaker 1: Without further ado, let's get our Post Run High go

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Speaker 1: in and let's get into our conversation with Lindsay. Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Post Run High.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just went to the bathroom and

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Speaker 2: I almost laid under the hand drier.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny whenever, So we started with the run.

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Speaker 1: We started all of our interviews with the run, and

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Speaker 1: it's very hot. In New York right now. And I

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Speaker 1: always wonder when people come back to the studio, like

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Speaker 1: if you're in the bathroom like splashing their face with water.

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Speaker 2: No, I did look at my face and I was like,

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Speaker 2: who needs highlighter when you have sweat?

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Speaker 1: We have a natural glow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: And we've got the post run high going, which you're

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Speaker 1: an athlete like, no better feeling?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done an interview sweaty before?

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Speaker 2: No? No, not on purpose?

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Speaker 1: Well how are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: I feel good, I feel alive. I feel like that

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Speaker 2: was like the jump start to my new fitness journey.

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Speaker 2: Running on a treadmill inside with Ac.

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Speaker 1: We actually have a version of the show in the

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Speaker 1: winter that we do sometimes on treadmills because when it's

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Speaker 1: like fifteen degrees in New York, I just can't do it,

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Speaker 1: Like I literally cannot be in the cold. My body

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Speaker 1: shuts down. But I hate running on a treadm.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, it's boring, it's so boring. Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: are you a podcast on the treadmill or like a

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Speaker 2: TV show on the treadmill? Like what kind of tread

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Speaker 2: if you are forced to run on a chreadmill and

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Speaker 2: you're not interviewing somebody.

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Speaker 1: So on the rare occasion that I'm forced to run

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Speaker 1: on a treadmill, like if it's sobered all outside or

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Speaker 1: like it's pouring rain and I'm like I have to

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Speaker 1: work out. Like typically I won't go to the gym,

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Speaker 1: like unless I really feel like.

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Speaker 2: I need to, Like I just avoid it altogether.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I like, I like running outside. I like

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Speaker 1: going to like fitness classes with my friends. But if

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Speaker 1: I'm on the treadmill, rare occasion, I'm catching up on

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Speaker 1: Chloe Kardashian's podcast video version on YouTube, and I'm watching

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Speaker 1: it like TV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have the video and the sound. I

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Speaker 2: I recently, I mean I'm not I haven't been on

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Speaker 2: I was on a treadmill, I was listening to a podcast.

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Speaker 2: It makes it go by so much faster because you're

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Speaker 2: just like absorbing and your mind is distracted from like

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Speaker 2: how many lack of miles you've gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope some of the people listening are listening

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Speaker 1: to this while working out.

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Speaker 2: Would I agree they are?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just know that Linz keep going, Everyone keep going.

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Speaker 1: Lindsay and I just worked out, so we're here to

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Speaker 1: tell you that there's light at the end of the dome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I laughed at Kate when she said how many miles?

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Speaker 2: And then we went over one mile, so mission accomplished.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, come on. So I liked finding out

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Speaker 1: that you were a soccer player growing up, So you

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Speaker 1: are an athlete, but you just had a baby recently.

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Speaker 2: Which is like a sport in and of itself. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I also feel like with fitness, there's like different

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Speaker 2: I just moved downtown, so like I've been like so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you're holding a twenty pound baby. But

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Speaker 2: But I am traditionally a runner, Like I grew up

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Speaker 2: the mental health aspect of it, but also you know,

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Speaker 2: the physical benefits and the stamina. But yeah, maybe it'll

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Speaker 2: for my running journey to start back up. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's good to like ease yourself back in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and no better way than with ploates. But it is

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Speaker 1: But I feel like it'll always be like a piece

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Speaker 1: myself going so that I can like accomplish it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I looked at my ass the other day in

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Speaker 2: the mirror and I was like, what I need to

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Speaker 2: do something like no, like squads. I was a big, big,

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Speaker 2: It's so intense, but like I like intense activity.

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Speaker 1: For everybody listening, you're one of the OG Summer House

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Speaker 1: cast members. Summerhouse is a big reality show on Bravo TV.

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Speaker 1: It's actually one of the only reality shows that I've watched.

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Speaker 2: which I do need to watch, which you need to start. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I am until Summerhouse comes back on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. When does Summer House come back on?

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Speaker 1: February exactly, because you guys are filming right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And like for for women listening that you know,

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Speaker 1: It's so true and like you're in such an exciting

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Speaker 1: have your career, you have your show. And I think

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Speaker 1: what's so cool is we were talking about this on the run,

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Speaker 1: was like doing a little bit of research. But July fourth,

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Speaker 2: Your baby insane seven months almost seven months. Sunday, she'll

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Speaker 1: No, And I mean it makes so much sense considering

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Speaker 1: And absolutely, yeah, it's so important. Like I worked in

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Speaker 1: of school as soon as I can, so I kind

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00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: of like stacked my classes that I could graduate a

437
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: little bit early. But technically, when I graduated in twenty nineteen,

438
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: I think I was making like maybe forty or thirty

439
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: nine thousand, so like not that much more than what

440
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: you were making at the time, and like that amount

441
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: of money. I don't even know how I made it work,

442
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: but I did, but it was criminal. How much you

443
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: get paid, No, it's insane. I think that's like illegal.

444
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: Now I don't even know it might have been like

445
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: less than minimum wage. Yeah, it's horrible. And then all

446
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, at a Bard's end on this time

447
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: and guys, for anybody that doesn't know how student loans work,

448
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: it's basically six months postgraduating, they kick in and you

449
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: can figure out how much you pay. But for me,

450
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: it was like five hundred bucks a month I was

451
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: paying Yeah, on top of like paying twelve hundred bucks

452
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: a month in rent and trying to afford to eat

453
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: and figure out how to go out with friends. Yeah.

454
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't even know what I did. I

455
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: don't even know if I paid them. I just knew

456
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: I had them. Yeah, it's and I was like, can

457
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: they still find me?

458
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: Right? No? Yeah, but you paid them off though, right eventually? Yeah.

459
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Well, so when Summerhouse came about, that was the entire

460
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: reason I was like, you know, this is going to

461
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: be a great way to supplement my income. Is like,

462
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: I mean, we obviously didn't make that much money on

463
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: season one of Summerhouse, but like in my head, I

464
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: was like, I have a student I had like at

465
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: that point, thirty thousand dollars more, thirty five thousand dollars

466
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: more of student loans that I had to pay off

467
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: and PR was not cutting it. I wasn't making enough

468
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: money to like, you know, obviously the interest rates are

469
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: adding up. It's now been like years. I'm like, oh,

470
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: you're working so hard. I'm working so hard at this point,

471
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: like you know, I'm starting my own PR firm, but

472
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: it's still is just like it's a grind. And so

473
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: I really started doing Summerhouse to pay off my student loans.

474
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: And it's like for me, it was never like a

475
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: fame thing. It was never like I just wanted to

476
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: pay my student loans off. And I didn't know how

477
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 2: long it was going to last. Like we thought Summerhouse

478
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: was going to last like a year or two. Like

479
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: here we are ten years later, and like my mind

480
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: is just blown.

481
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Did you start your PR firm before the first you

482
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: did season a Summerhouse?

483
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: So I actually had all right. So I worked at

484
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: a PR firm with a boss. We had a New

485
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: York office in an LA office. I left that PR

486
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: firm in August of twenty fourteen to start my own

487
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: PR firm with my boyfriend. At the time. He was

488
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: a chef and had you know, a bunch of restaurants

489
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: in the City, so it was kind of like a

490
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: built in client, and we started a PR firm together.

491
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: We had a very like tumultuous relationship. Like if anyone's

492
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: ever dated a chef, they could probably understand what goes.

493
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: What was tumultuous about dating a chef?

494
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: I need to like, they're just they're very interesting people.

495
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: This is kind of a hot topic right now because

496
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: I think The Bear, the next season of The Bear

497
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: just came out, and I keep seeing videos.

498
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: Well it's like, i mean, just an obvious, you know

499
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: factor is that the hours are very difficult, Like they

500
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: work at night and I would work during the day,

501
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 2: so you just kind of don't see each other. And

502
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: then you also, I think in that particular relationship, like

503
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: he was very controlling, you know, he didn't want me

504
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: going out with my girlfriends, and I'm like, dude, you're

505
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: working at night, Like I'm gonna go out with my girlfriends.

506
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: I was also like in my late twenties and you know,

507
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: no like strang and I didn't have a kid, so

508
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: and you're working, so course I'm gonna go out with

509
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: my girlfriends.

510
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Throw in to the mix. You're doing PR for him?

511
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like doing PR for him. So but yeah,

512
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: so I had actually started a PR firm with him

513
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: in August of twenty fourteen, and then two years later

514
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: we started filming Summerhouse, and he and I had been

515
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: broken up, like we were able to like maintain our

516
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: you know, PR firm together. He had was fully dating

517
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: a girl, like, no problem, I'm okay with it, like

518
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: we're cordial, we're friends, and we're running a company together.

519
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: But once I started filming Summerhouse, he did not like that.

520
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: And I also started dating my boyfriend at that time, Everett,

521
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: he was on season one, and that guy did not

522
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: like that either. So it was very toxic and so

523
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: I sidestepped, left that PR firm with him and started

524
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: my own and that was in July of season one,

525
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: So July twenty sixteen.

526
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Wow, so you were balancing season one of Summerhouse, being

527
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: on reality TV for the first time in front of

528
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: a camera. Yeah, while building your business.

529
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and dealing with a toxic X.

530
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: And dealing with a chef. Yes, that's crazy.

531
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was kind of wild and like, and

532
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: I maintained that PR firm for the first five years

533
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 2: of Summerhouse because again, like it was just it was

534
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: always my thing. Like you never know what's going to

535
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: happen with reality TV. You never know what's going to

536
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 2: happen with your show. We could have gotten canceled at

537
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: any point, and I needed to be smart, like I

538
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: needed to you know, I wasn't going to give up

539
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: my traditional career, you know, in corporate America because this,

540
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: you know, I'm filming a reality show. But slowly and eventually,

541
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: like we kind of proved that we had staying power

542
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: with Summerhouse, and you know, there was a lot of

543
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: hope for longevity, and then COVID hit in twenty twenty,

544
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: and you know, you can't really promote restaurants or you know,

545
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: brands if no one is going to the restaurants and

546
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: if no one is buying anything, because now the whole

547
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: world is, you know, confused about what's happening. So I

548
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: got put on pause by all of my clients, which

549
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: is like completely understandable. Like pr is a luxury for

550
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: a client, and it's a lot of money. You know,

551
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: a monthly retainer can be from anywhere from like three

552
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to like twenty thousand dollars. Of course I

553
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: didn't have twenty thousand dollars clients I had smaller brands,

554
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: but you know, so everyone put me on pause. Totally understandable,

555
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: and I kind of looked at that as the opportunity

556
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: to really just lean into being Lindsey from Summer House.

557
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: You know, brands got really smart to they targeted influencers

558
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: at home to promote their products. I was one of those,

559
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: you know, influencers that started working with brands during COVID

560
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: to you know, kind of go into that route and

561
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: lean into it. And then all my clients were like, Okay,

562
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: we're ready for pr again, but we have like one

563
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: thirtieth of the budget. Like whereas you were paying me

564
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars a month before, you can only pay

565
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: me like five hundred bucks a month. And I was like,

566
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: this is just not worth my time because like when

567
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: I do something, I do it at one hundred you know,

568
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: like if you're not able to pay me what it's

569
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: actually worth. And I don't know how to like pull

570
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: back the reins, like I'm always going to do a

571
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: great I'm going to do the job of a twenty

572
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars you know, retainer. So yeah, and I just

573
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: was like, you know what like this is now the

574
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 2: time Summerhouse is seemingly not going anywhere, and I can

575
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: you know, make more money doing brand campaigns.

576
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your PR experience, like directly, you know, helped

577
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: you know how to brand campaign for sure. What do

578
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: you feel like about having a traditional PR background from

579
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: like a public facing point of view? How do you

580
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: think that helped you when you were on Summerhouse and

581
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: like in front of the camera for the first time.

582
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it helped me at all. In fact,

583
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: I probably should have hired a publicist sooner because I

584
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: never did personal PR. I never I only ever worked

585
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: with brands or you know, hospitality accounts. And the only

586
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: time I would, you know, do the personal side of

587
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: the PR for an actual person was if it was

588
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: the CEO of that company or the chef or the owner,

589
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: you know. But I never did personal PR for you know,

590
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: people in the entertainment industry. And I think in regards

591
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: to me, like I I did not. I never knew

592
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: how to do like PR for myself. Like I just

593
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: have always been authentically me, take me or leave me good,

594
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: good or bad, you know, activated or not screaming about

595
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: sandwiches or you know, just being silly and goofy, And

596
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: I think in the real world, you know, it's not

597
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: always good to you know, have that level of like energy,

598
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: you know people. Yeah, but I think like for TV,

599
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 2: you know, it's entertaining, Like people want to see drama,

600
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: people want to see people activated.

601
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: And let's talk about the premise of Summer House for

602
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: people listening that don't know the show and how it

603
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 1: came to be. Can you kind of paint the picture

604
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: for us, because I feel like the drama on the

605
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: show just naturally comes with the setting that you guys

606
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: are in totally. So let's paint the picture if I everybody,

607
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: how did Summerhouse come to be? And what is the

608
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: premise of the show?

609
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So in New York, you know, the summer culture

610
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: is that we live in the city. We work hard

611
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, but then on the weekends we all

612
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: drive out to the Hamptons on Fridays and share a

613
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: house together, party, hookup, and you know, just enjoy the

614
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: weekends literally sharing a house in the under the same roof,

615
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: you know, every weekend of the summer, which is the

616
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: culture of New York. If you're in your twenties and thirties.

617
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: It's just it's a it's a lifestyle that we had

618
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: been living already. It's a lifestyle that like, you know,

619
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: I have have been doing since like two thousand and

620
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: seven when I interned in the city.

621
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: And that's early. I like I didn't start going to

622
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: the I mean I don't go to the Hampton's consistently,

623
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: but like last year we did a house in the

624
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: Hamptons for the first time with some friends. But like

625
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: in my early twenties, I would have never been able

626
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: to afford it.

627
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's why you share houses. I mean some

628
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: of these houses are just like I mean, we've slept

629
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: on mattresses and a garage before we have you know,

630
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: there's been rooms where it's like bunk beds. You're you know,

631
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: in a bunk bed with another girl, you know, sharing

632
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: a bed. I mean, they like some of these houses

633
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: like they just like stack them with people so that

634
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: you can afford to pay for a weekend or you know,

635
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 2: a month. But yeah, it started with Kyle and I's

636
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: group of friends. You know, this is ten years ago,

637
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: and that was like our heyday of partying and going

638
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: out in the city and you know, just we like

639
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: kind of took over at night. I don't know.

640
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: And how did you guys know each other?

641
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: Just like we had this big peripheral group, so you know,

642
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: obviously there's pockets of best friends, but then like you

643
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: all know each other. I mean there must have been

644
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: like undreds of us that all knew each other because

645
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: of going out and you know, having fun and partying

646
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: in New York City. So we you know, once the

647
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: producers found our group of friends with things to Kyle,

648
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: he was like, you need to meet our group of friends.

649
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: They just started picking everyone out one by one until

650
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: they had the cast. So Summerhouse started with like Kyle

651
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 2: and I as true, you know, group of friends. And

652
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: our headset was like, okay, well we do this anyway,

653
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Like fine, if there's a camera there might as well,

654
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: Like we're already going to be doing it with or

655
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: without the cameras. Me of course, I wanted to pay

656
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: off my student loans and yeah, it just you know,

657
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: it was a little different because we were used to

658
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: like creating our own schedules on the weekends in the Hampton's,

659
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: whereas this time around you couldn't. And yeah, and the

660
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: surveyalens camera aspect is definitely more unique to Summerhouse than

661
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: like most other Bravo shows.

662
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what the surveillance camera is.

663
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: Surveillance cameras are like cameras in the corners of the rooms, right,

664
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: They're in every single room, They're in all the bedrooms,

665
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: they're in the living room, kitchen, and I think what

666
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: is so unique and cool about the surveillance cameras is

667
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: that it captures very authentic moments. Right, Like we're talking

668
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: about summertime in the Hampton's. You're filming around the clock,

669
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: you know, Friday nights, all day, Saturday, Saturday night, all

670
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: day Sunday. We drink a lot of rose and or

671
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 2: I guess lover boys, or you know, whatever your drink

672
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: of choice for the summertime is. So you know, at

673
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: the end of the day, when you're like in the

674
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: hot sun and you've been drinking rose all day, it

675
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: can add to the drama. And the surveillance cameras definitely capture,

676
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, that level of authentic behavior. You know, whether

677
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: it's someone crying or someone hooking up, or someone getting

678
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: into a fight, Like there's no escaping, you know, it's

679
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: not like you can wake up the next day and

680
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: be like, thank god, no one was there to see that.

681
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: Like if you get in a fight with your boyfriend,

682
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, I'm glad we worked through that in private,

683
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: like we're gonna keep this between us, not on Summer House.

684
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna fight with your boyfriend. And it's now everywhere everyone.

685
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: Now it's now part of the plot.

686
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: Right.

687
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: But the producers literally like, what was that like in

688
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: those early years of going from like living a private

689
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: life to then all of a sudden everything is out

690
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: there for the public to see, Like was that a

691
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: hard adjustment?

692
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: No, because it was like a slow build, right, Like

693
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: I think that people didn't really catch on to Summerhouse

694
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: in those early seasons, and you know, which is probably

695
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: why we didn't know or think it was going to

696
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: go past a couple of seasons. But by season like

697
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: four five, we had switched up the cast a little bit,

698
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: we started hitting our stride. The COVID season was like,

699
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: you know, it was a lot for us in the

700
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: house because we were in the house for a month

701
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: and a half, like, did not leave, didn't go back

702
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: to the city, same group of people, but it made

703
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: for really good television, you know. Season four season four

704
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: had aired. It was airing right when COVID hit, so

705
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everybody's at home and they're looking

706
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: to discover new television shows. By the time we're filming

707
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: season five, it was summer of twenty twenty, in the

708
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: middle of COVID, and so I think that's where we

709
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: started hitting our stride, and that's when a lot of

710
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: discovery was made with new viewers, and I think it's

711
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: been up from there. So it was like a slow build,

712
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: very gradual, with like the you know, people recognizing us.

713
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: What was the biggest learning curve for you? And maybe

714
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: like what did you learn about yourself through being on

715
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: the show?

716
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: What did I learn about myself? I mean, here's the thing, Like,

717
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: you really should not go on reality TV if you

718
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: are very concerned about people's opinions. It's probably a really unhealthy,

719
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, career if you are if yeah, if you

720
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: mentally or emotionally cannot handle you know, what the world

721
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 2: thinks of you. I think what I learned about myself

722
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 2: is I just don't care what the world thinks of me. Yeah,

723
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like I truly like show up

724
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: and I am just me, which I think was maybe beneficial,

725
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, because like my mindset was always like you

726
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: know what, like if people don't like me, then I

727
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: probably don't like them either, like end of sorry. If

728
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: they can see through like some of the bullshit and

729
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: like see to like who I truly am, then you know,

730
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: chances are yeah, maybe maybe they'll like me. But either way,

731
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: like I'm not living this life or you know, presenting

732
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: a different version of myself to America or the world,

733
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: like you get me as I am. But I think

734
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: that works for me. It doesn't work for everyone, Like

735
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't.

736
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: And like, I think the beauty about reality TV too

737
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: is like in the context of what you're talking about,

738
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: Like people get to see you in a very natural setting,

739
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: right because you're in a house, you're hanging out with

740
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: your friends, You're talking to people and communicating with them

741
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: the way you would communicate to anybody. Right Like, guys,

742
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: Lindsay's sitting here right here with me, you're the same

743
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: on the show as you are in person. And I think, yeah,

744
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: like like making friends with people in general, it's like

745
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: there's people that are going to like you, there's people

746
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: that are not gonna like you. But the people that

747
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: like you will always back you because Ye're like, no,

748
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: I know her. I've seen her vulnerable on the show,

749
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: Like I've seen her have real conversation totally. You know,

750
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: when it's either like you vibe with like what you're

751
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: putting out or you don't. And it's okay if you don't,

752
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because there's enough people that do.

753
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: And I'm all right, like, you know, if someone's not

754
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: my kind of people, like, I'm okay with that, Like

755
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: I have enough friends.

756
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you have enough supporters, Okay. Well over the years,

757
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are filming your tenth season right now.

758
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, you've dealt with a lot online. We talked

759
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: a little bit about Carl during the run. Let's talk

760
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: a little bit about what you guys went through and

761
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: kind of what that experience was like going through publicly,

762
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, and ending an engagement.

763
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can't really speak for him, but

764
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: for me personally, it was awful. That was a moment

765
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: that like created a lot of adult trauma for me.

766
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: I think, like, you know, I always thought that our

767
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: relationship it was such a slow build, Like we started

768
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: out as friends and we were best friends and we

769
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: tried to date. Season four didn't work out, Like he

770
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: was still partying and I was not in a place either.

771
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: But then you know, then he got sober. Then we tried,

772
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, we started dating after filming season six, and

773
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: you know, we had been together for a year he proposed,

774
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: and then by the next year, like we had been

775
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: planning a wedding. So we were, you know, in total

776
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: together for two years. But we had formed such a bond,

777
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: in a friendship and a best friendship, so I always

778
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: felt like our relationship was beyond the show. And when

779
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: he made the decision to you know, basically break up

780
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: with me out, which was very blindsiding for me, but

781
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: like I did not see it coming. I had no

782
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: idea that, like, you know, he was even capable of

783
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: hurting a friend like that. So, yeah, that breakup and

784
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: then like as soon as it happened, thirty minutes later,

785
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: it was all over the internet, which means someone leaked

786
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: it and it was not me because I was still

787
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: trying to process what the hell just happened to me,

788
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was like it was pretty bad.

789
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: It was one of the most humiliating moments of my life.

790
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: Like I I would have thought that he probably could

791
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: have like had a conversation with me in private to

792
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: at least give me a heads up of, like, you know,

793
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: just on a friend level, that he was going to

794
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: do this. And you know, when you realize someone has

795
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: that little respect for you just as a person, it's

796
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: just not a person that I really care to have

797
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: in my life. So but it was all for the better, right, Like,

798
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: look at where I'm at now, Like that was probably

799
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: the best decision that could have ever happened to me.

800
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: For me, it was already going to be a very long,

801
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: hard road ahead, just based off of you know, his

802
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: struggles within you know, you know, understanding his sobriety, and

803
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: I think, you know, no matter how much of a

804
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: support I was, I it was never enough for him.

805
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: And and that's okay, you know, we're not each other's people.

806
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: And I just don't even know if he even understands

807
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: me as a person in general. But I will say, like,

808
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: once I like rearranged and re reframed, you know, the

809
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: entire breakup in my head, I was able to you know,

810
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: put one foot in front of the other and just

811
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: start slowly like pushing my I sell forward and you know,

812
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: which then led me to my baby daddy and then

813
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: led me to my baby, which was always my ultimate goal.

814
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: And I feel like I was able to accomplish. I

815
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: bought a house in Nashville, which I don't think I

816
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: would have done if I was still inside of that relationship.

817
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: You know, I was able to like accomplish a lot

818
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: of like my personal goals and dreams and ambitions that

819
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: I was able to make come true.

820
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: It is so crazy, like whenever I think about life,

821
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: like I sometimes think about all the different kind of

822
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: paths that you can take, and it is wild that

823
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, when one door closes, another one really does open.

824
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, like it led you to Gemma and now

825
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: you have family and yeah, but women are strong as hell.

826
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: And I think, seriously, the most impressive thing about you

827
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: is that you are able to go back on that show,

828
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: continue filming and just do your things.

829
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: I've always sort of been that way, right, Like, you know, sure,

830
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: I have accidentally caused drama for plenty of years. I've

831
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: fought with so many boyfriends. I step and shit a

832
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: lot wherever I go, which you know, causes a lot

833
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: of chaos. But ultimately, like you know, I'm just sort

834
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: of like in my own on my own path and

835
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: on my own journey, and like the whole world has

836
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: literally witnessed me growing up on national television.

837
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: You know.

838
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: My entire thirties have been spent on Summer House. And

839
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: those are the years that we in New York are

840
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: finally growing up. Like, you know, a lot of people

841
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: in other areas grow up a lot faster than us here,

842
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: but our thirties is where we are just like trying

843
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: to learn how to be adults. And like the whole

844
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: world came along for every journey of mine. And I think,

845
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's relatable, you know, because whatever I've gone through,

846
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: I've shared it with everyone.

847
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's a beautiful thing in that. And there's

848
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: so many people that relate to your story and have

849
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: been through similar experiences, you know. And I think that's

850
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: the cool thing about your position is like and you're

851
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: you know what you've been through is you're able to

852
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: connect with so many people that have gone through similar

853
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: experiences and you're you kind of are a figurehead of

854
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: letting them feel less alone. Yeah.

855
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: But and vice versa, Like people share with me so

856
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: much on Instagram, and you know, I love reading their

857
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: stories because it also makes me feel less alone, and

858
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: that's like a really fun and great community to be

859
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: a part of.

860
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: What was it like announcing your pregnancy last season?

861
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: So Carl was not there the night I announced it,

862
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: and that was by design by me, because it just

863
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: wasn't about him, you know, like this was my biggest

864
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: announcement of my entire life. I was like terrified. I

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Speaker 2: prepared this in this entire speech that went on for

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Speaker 2: forever because I just was like trying to memorize it

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Speaker 2: and you know, didn't want anyone to know what I

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Speaker 2: was actually going to say, and yeah, wound up going

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Speaker 2: on forever. But I yeah, I was like I was.

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Speaker 2: I was a ball of nerves before announcing it, but

871
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Speaker 2: because I knew, you know, based off of being scared

872
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Speaker 2: for something to leak, that as soon as I announced

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Speaker 2: it to my cast mates, I was going to have

874
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: to announce it to the world. So I had like

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Speaker 2: two different, like you know modes going of announcing and

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Speaker 2: I was just, yeah, I was. I had a lot

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Speaker 2: of anxiety and nerves, but it wound up being a

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00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: beautiful thing and it was very freeing, you know, like

879
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: when you get pregnant you're like first trimester, you have

880
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: to keep it private for so many reasons, or you

881
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: don't have to, but a lot of women do just

882
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: to make sure that they have a healthy pregnancy, that

883
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: you know they're gonna make it through the genetic screening,

884
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Speaker 2: you know, after twelve weeks. And I had a miscarriage before,

885
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: so I was terrified in my first trimester that like,

886
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Speaker 2: you know, is this going to be viable? Am I

887
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Speaker 2: going to have another miscarriage? And you know, I was scared.

888
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was very freeing when I was when

889
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Speaker 2: I finally announced and I was able to like celebrate

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00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: publicly and openly, you know, this beautiful life that I

891
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Speaker 2: was creating.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. What was it like filming the show while pregnant?

893
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Speaker 1: Was it?

894
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Speaker 2: I had so much fun? Yeah?

895
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Speaker 1: It was your first sober season.

896
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and probably like it was probably time. But no,

897
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Speaker 2: I I had I had like a real I just

898
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: had a really good pregnancy. I was blessed with like

899
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Speaker 2: an easy pregnancy. I didn't get sickness or anything. And

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Speaker 2: I was in the sweet spot of like being in

901
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Speaker 2: my second trimester. I wasn't in my first. I wasn't

902
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: in my third where I'm like waddling everywhere and dying

903
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: of heat. But I was, Yeah, I was in the

904
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: sweet spot of being in the second trimester. I had

905
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Speaker 2: a lot of energy, and you, as a viewer, got

906
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Speaker 2: to like physically watch me growing, Like every week I

907
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: would come and like I was like a little bit bigger,

908
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Speaker 2: a little bit bigger. She had started kicking towards the

909
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Speaker 2: end of summer, so that was like fun and I

910
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: was able to share that experience with everyone in the house.

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Speaker 2: Like I it was never just me alone pregnant physically,

912
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Speaker 2: I was the only pregnant one, but I felt like

913
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Speaker 2: the whole house was like really, you know, celebrating with

914
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Speaker 2: me every little milestone of pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: December twenty twenty four, you welcome, Gemma. How has becoming

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Speaker 1: a mom changed your world?

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Speaker 2: I went on a date the other day and I

918
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Speaker 2: like looked at the guy and I was like, you

919
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: you can ask me questions that you might be thinking,

920
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Speaker 2: because I've been through a lot over the last two years, right,

921
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Speaker 2: And he was like, how has been a mom changed you?

922
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Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, that is deep and that

923
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Speaker 2: is creative. So points for creativity, but you know what

924
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: it is, It's just such a different world. I think that,

925
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Speaker 2: like I have a very different lens in every decision

926
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Speaker 2: that I make. It's always putting jim a first, even

927
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Speaker 2: if that means I have to sacrifice like my comfort

928
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Speaker 2: or you know, my personal ones and needs. It's always about,

929
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Speaker 2: you know, making sure she has everything that she needs

930
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Speaker 2: and wants to to you know, be as happy and

931
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Speaker 2: healthy as she is. I think, you know, obviously I

932
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Speaker 2: I don't go out as much. I can't really leave

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Speaker 2: my house, Like I put my daughter to bed every

934
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Speaker 2: single night at six thirty seven, and you know, I'm

935
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Speaker 2: in the room next door watching Love Island. But yeah,

936
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that, like I'm a lot

937
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: more patient, not even just because of having a kid, right,

938
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Speaker 2: but I think just through the whole process, in every

939
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Speaker 2: step of the way, patient with myself as a new

940
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Speaker 2: mom and all of the physical, emotional and mental changes

941
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Speaker 2: I've gone through. But yeah, of course, like you know,

942
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Speaker 2: patient when you have like a baby. I think, yeah,

943
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Speaker 2: I don't know. And I just and I think that

944
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: I like I have this like softer, more emotional side

945
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: where I'm like very much easier to cry and celebrate

946
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: emotions that you know, I didn't I It's not not

947
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: that like I never cried, but like I definitely cry

948
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: a lot more and for all different reasons, whether it's

949
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: happiness or sadness or you know, just celebrating a friend.

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00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: So so yeah, it's interesting. But I think I think it'll,

951
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: like you know, continue to evolve as I continue to

952
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: you be a mom.

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Speaker 1: What advice would you give to someone who feels like

954
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: they're starting over? Maybe career wise, relationship wise, or personally.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how refreshing? Like you have to look at

956
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: it as like a refreshing moment that was much needed,

957
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Speaker 2: and like, you know, use it as like a springboard.

958
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Speaker 1: I love the word refreshing. What's one boundary you have

959
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: set in work, life or love and friendships that's changed

960
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: your life?

961
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Speaker 2: I yeah, one boundary. I guess I haven't really had

962
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: a lot of boundaries in life. I should probably have

963
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: more boundaries, have more boundaries. Okay.

964
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Speaker 1: For anyone who's feeling stuck, what's one small thing that

965
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: they can do this week to move forward?

966
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Speaker 2: Go on a run or exercise? Yeah, now you've inspired me.

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Speaker 1: We're getting Lindsay back into her.

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Speaker 2: No, you are, This journey starts now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Perfect? Okay, And lastly, what do you want Gemma

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Speaker 1: to take away from watching your journy when she watches

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Speaker 1: it back someday.

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Speaker 2: I think how to be a strong independent woman, which

973
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: she is already a very strong independent baby, but you know,

974
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Speaker 2: just I want her to be like proud that like

975
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Speaker 2: I've done everything for myself. I've never been given anything

976
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: in life. I've worked my ass off, and you know

977
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Speaker 2: I want to be able to inspire her in that kind.

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Speaker 1: Of way you will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, So this was fun.

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Speaker 1: This was so fun. Thank you guys so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to today's conversation. I hope you loved it as

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